Ward in Wolves run-out

Stephen Ward

Stephen Ward

First published in Sport

Albion target and former loanee Stephen Ward played a full 90 minutes for Wolves in last night's 1-0 win at Oxford United.

The left-back has been told he has no future at Molineux.

Republic of Ireland international Ward impressed supporters with his consistency throughout last season.

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10:24am Wed 30 Jul 14

Beale32 says...

This is going to drag on until the window closes. Even then we still might not have him. Most prob trying to get him back on loan then sign hm when his contracts ends.
This is going to drag on until the window closes. Even then we still might not have him. Most prob trying to get him back on loan then sign hm when his contracts ends. Beale32
  • Score: 6

10:38am Wed 30 Jul 14

Towner83 says...

Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO Towner83
  • Score: -7

11:05am Wed 30 Jul 14

gilbertthecat says...

Towner83 wrote:
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.
[quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO[/p][/quote]Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 6

11:19am Wed 30 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Towner83 wrote:
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
But Wolves are also asking for a transfer fee (even though it's a fairly modest one). I think we should stick to our guns on this one. Wolves want him off their books. We should continue to play hardball. It doesn't appear that anyone else is coming in for him.........
[quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO[/p][/quote]But Wolves are also asking for a transfer fee (even though it's a fairly modest one). I think we should stick to our guns on this one. Wolves want him off their books. We should continue to play hardball. It doesn't appear that anyone else is coming in for him......... Quiterie
  • Score: 7

11:31am Wed 30 Jul 14

Mad Mark says...

gilbertthecat wrote:
Towner83 wrote:
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.
Heard the fee is 150k, why not pay the fee, give him 10k per week with the extra 3k per week added together and given as a signing on fee. Wolves get what they want, Ward gets his money, we dont break the wage cap and we get a great player for very reasonable money. Or am I missing something
[quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO[/p][/quote]Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.[/p][/quote]Heard the fee is 150k, why not pay the fee, give him 10k per week with the extra 3k per week added together and given as a signing on fee. Wolves get what they want, Ward gets his money, we dont break the wage cap and we get a great player for very reasonable money. Or am I missing something Mad Mark
  • Score: 12

11:57am Wed 30 Jul 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

What gets me is these players that we have had on loan at the club and most if not all say at the end of the loan "what a great club, have loved playing here" if this is true why so hard to get them to come back and play with most being guaranteed football every week barring injuries?
You have two choices, sit on the bench if your lucky or play every week with maybe a small drop in wages but also with expectation of playing in the premiership next season and those wages increasing when finances permit it, what would your choice be?
What gets me is these players that we have had on loan at the club and most if not all say at the end of the loan "what a great club, have loved playing here" if this is true why so hard to get them to come back and play with most being guaranteed football every week barring injuries? You have two choices, sit on the bench if your lucky or play every week with maybe a small drop in wages but also with expectation of playing in the premiership next season and those wages increasing when finances permit it, what would your choice be? Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 3

12:00pm Wed 30 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Mad Mark wrote:
gilbertthecat wrote:
Towner83 wrote:
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.
Heard the fee is 150k, why not pay the fee, give him 10k per week with the extra 3k per week added together and given as a signing on fee. Wolves get what they want, Ward gets his money, we dont break the wage cap and we get a great player for very reasonable money. Or am I missing something
Yes you are missing something, Mad Mark.
That is the position before negotiations begin.
[quote][p][bold]Mad Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO[/p][/quote]Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.[/p][/quote]Heard the fee is 150k, why not pay the fee, give him 10k per week with the extra 3k per week added together and given as a signing on fee. Wolves get what they want, Ward gets his money, we dont break the wage cap and we get a great player for very reasonable money. Or am I missing something[/p][/quote]Yes you are missing something, Mad Mark. That is the position before negotiations begin. gordongull
  • Score: 1

12:02pm Wed 30 Jul 14

jcrumplinfootballgenius says...

Surprise surprise, Kenny Jackett has now realised that an established Eire International is now good enough for his squad. The truth of the matter is that he was only with us last season to help reduce the expenditure whilst the club was in Div 1.
We need to look elsewhere pretty sharpish if we are going to provide coverage at LB for Chicksen (the only position we now require coverage for other than CF and possibly wing.
IMHO our current squad is strong enough to compete in the championship but lets be realistic, unless TB and the board get their wallets out soon, our future remains as strong well run championship side, which having experienced the Priestfield days is a welcome relief.
Surprise surprise, Kenny Jackett has now realised that an established Eire International is now good enough for his squad. The truth of the matter is that he was only with us last season to help reduce the expenditure whilst the club was in Div 1. We need to look elsewhere pretty sharpish if we are going to provide coverage at LB for Chicksen (the only position we now require coverage for other than CF and possibly wing. IMHO our current squad is strong enough to compete in the championship but lets be realistic, unless TB and the board get their wallets out soon, our future remains as strong well run championship side, which having experienced the Priestfield days is a welcome relief. jcrumplinfootballgenius
  • Score: -1

12:07pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

Yes, I'm sorry but as much as we would like him back he is now being greedy and is taking the p***.
£500k a year is enough for a reasonable footballer. He's not "top class". He's just "good". Call me old fashioned. Thumbs down on their way.......
UTA!
Yes, I'm sorry but as much as we would like him back he is now being greedy and is taking the p***. £500k a year is enough for a reasonable footballer. He's not "top class". He's just "good". Call me old fashioned. Thumbs down on their way....... UTA! Max Ripple
  • Score: 11

12:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Wish the Club would come out and say YES we ARE trying to get Ward back instead of all this speculation!!!
Wish the Club would come out and say YES we ARE trying to get Ward back instead of all this speculation!!! mikeygit
  • Score: -3

12:49pm Wed 30 Jul 14

stonegold says...

mikeygit wrote:
Wish the Club would come out and say YES we ARE trying to get Ward back instead of all this speculation!!!
"It makes no sense for us to talk publicly about our targets, our budget or our priorities - but fans should not mistake this silence for inactivity"
Paul Barber
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Wish the Club would come out and say YES we ARE trying to get Ward back instead of all this speculation!!![/p][/quote]"It makes no sense for us to talk publicly about our targets, our budget or our priorities - but fans should not mistake this silence for inactivity" Paul Barber stonegold
  • Score: 14

12:59pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mad Mark says...

gordongull wrote:
Mad Mark wrote:
gilbertthecat wrote:
Towner83 wrote:
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.
Heard the fee is 150k, why not pay the fee, give him 10k per week with the extra 3k per week added together and given as a signing on fee. Wolves get what they want, Ward gets his money, we dont break the wage cap and we get a great player for very reasonable money. Or am I missing something
Yes you are missing something, Mad Mark.
That is the position before negotiations begin.
Fair comment, maybe he's asking for more than the 13k per week,(none of us can be sure) if he is then thats a completely different matter, I'm sure they've got others in mind, can't see them leaving this position uncovered, no disrespect to Chicksen but feel he's not quite ready yet, we need a consistent player and Ward ticks all the boxes for me
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mad Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO[/p][/quote]Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.[/p][/quote]Heard the fee is 150k, why not pay the fee, give him 10k per week with the extra 3k per week added together and given as a signing on fee. Wolves get what they want, Ward gets his money, we dont break the wage cap and we get a great player for very reasonable money. Or am I missing something[/p][/quote]Yes you are missing something, Mad Mark. That is the position before negotiations begin.[/p][/quote]Fair comment, maybe he's asking for more than the 13k per week,(none of us can be sure) if he is then thats a completely different matter, I'm sure they've got others in mind, can't see them leaving this position uncovered, no disrespect to Chicksen but feel he's not quite ready yet, we need a consistent player and Ward ticks all the boxes for me Mad Mark
  • Score: 5

1:02pm Wed 30 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

I think Ward playing 90 minutes for Wolves was nothing more than a chance to build up some interest in the lad, as far as we know only Brighton have made a move, and even that has not been confirmed.

When you tell a player that he does not have a future at the club there isn't much wiggle room. They want the reported 650K a year wages off their books.
I think Ward playing 90 minutes for Wolves was nothing more than a chance to build up some interest in the lad, as far as we know only Brighton have made a move, and even that has not been confirmed. When you tell a player that he does not have a future at the club there isn't much wiggle room. They want the reported 650K a year wages off their books. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

1:22pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Towner83 says...

gilbertthecat wrote:
Towner83 wrote:
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.
I read a quote from the club that they were paying two thirds of his wage and they were paying him £10 a week. That's how I came to that conclusion. 13k or 15k does it really matter for a club with prem ambitions. Vicente was on £26k a week and cost the club £550k for every goal he scored for the club
[quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO[/p][/quote]Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.[/p][/quote]I read a quote from the club that they were paying two thirds of his wage and they were paying him £10 a week. That's how I came to that conclusion. 13k or 15k does it really matter for a club with prem ambitions. Vicente was on £26k a week and cost the club £550k for every goal he scored for the club Towner83
  • Score: -5

2:07pm Wed 30 Jul 14

gilbertthecat says...

Towner83 wrote:
gilbertthecat wrote:
Towner83 wrote:
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.
I read a quote from the club that they were paying two thirds of his wage and they were paying him £10 a week. That's how I came to that conclusion. 13k or 15k does it really matter for a club with prem ambitions. Vicente was on £26k a week and cost the club £550k for every goal he scored for the club
I guess only the club and player know the true position and cost but it does seem that reasonably accurate rumours do circulate so you might be right. In some respects I agree that £13-15k isn't a huge difference if we're in the PL next year, but it's the cost of not getting there that needs to be considered along side that. For SW personally it's probably a bigger deal financially but as I said the higher his wage now against what he's finally offered the bigger the hit he will take. It's fairly obvious that BHA won't spend like other clubs to get to the prize adn at the moment, sadly, it looks like that precludes a deal with Wolves for SW. I hope I'm wrong and they do get him back, unless they're currently frying some other fish.
[quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO[/p][/quote]Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.[/p][/quote]I read a quote from the club that they were paying two thirds of his wage and they were paying him £10 a week. That's how I came to that conclusion. 13k or 15k does it really matter for a club with prem ambitions. Vicente was on £26k a week and cost the club £550k for every goal he scored for the club[/p][/quote]I guess only the club and player know the true position and cost but it does seem that reasonably accurate rumours do circulate so you might be right. In some respects I agree that £13-15k isn't a huge difference if we're in the PL next year, but it's the cost of not getting there that needs to be considered along side that. For SW personally it's probably a bigger deal financially but as I said the higher his wage now against what he's finally offered the bigger the hit he will take. It's fairly obvious that BHA won't spend like other clubs to get to the prize adn at the moment, sadly, it looks like that precludes a deal with Wolves for SW. I hope I'm wrong and they do get him back, unless they're currently frying some other fish. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 2

2:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Mad Mark wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Mad Mark wrote:
gilbertthecat wrote:
Towner83 wrote:
Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO
Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.
Heard the fee is 150k, why not pay the fee, give him 10k per week with the extra 3k per week added together and given as a signing on fee. Wolves get what they want, Ward gets his money, we dont break the wage cap and we get a great player for very reasonable money. Or am I missing something
Yes you are missing something, Mad Mark.
That is the position before negotiations begin.
Fair comment, maybe he's asking for more than the 13k per week,(none of us can be sure) if he is then thats a completely different matter, I'm sure they've got others in mind, can't see them leaving this position uncovered, no disrespect to Chicksen but feel he's not quite ready yet, we need a consistent player and Ward ticks all the boxes for me
The thing is Chicksen's nearly 23 now. It's not like he's 18 or 19. After being given a year to 'settle in', if he's not ready for the first team now it's probably an admission that the scouting team got it wrong. He was highly thought of when he signed, we paid a fee and there were other clubs in for him. He's looked ok in his limited appearances so far. I'd like to see him given a run in the team.
[quote][p][bold]Mad Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mad Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Just sign him up! If we were paying £10k of his £15k wages then the extra £5k equates to £260k extra per year which is nothing compared to the transfer fees that we now spend. Not showing ambition with this transfer IMO[/p][/quote]Most quoted figure for his Wolves wage is £13k. Where did £15k figure come from because that would make it even less likely that he'd take a wage drop to come to us.[/p][/quote]Heard the fee is 150k, why not pay the fee, give him 10k per week with the extra 3k per week added together and given as a signing on fee. Wolves get what they want, Ward gets his money, we dont break the wage cap and we get a great player for very reasonable money. Or am I missing something[/p][/quote]Yes you are missing something, Mad Mark. That is the position before negotiations begin.[/p][/quote]Fair comment, maybe he's asking for more than the 13k per week,(none of us can be sure) if he is then thats a completely different matter, I'm sure they've got others in mind, can't see them leaving this position uncovered, no disrespect to Chicksen but feel he's not quite ready yet, we need a consistent player and Ward ticks all the boxes for me[/p][/quote]The thing is Chicksen's nearly 23 now. It's not like he's 18 or 19. After being given a year to 'settle in', if he's not ready for the first team now it's probably an admission that the scouting team got it wrong. He was highly thought of when he signed, we paid a fee and there were other clubs in for him. He's looked ok in his limited appearances so far. I'd like to see him given a run in the team. Quiterie
  • Score: 11

4:24pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Carlas mum says...

Max Ripple wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry but as much as we would like him back he is now being greedy and is taking the p***.
£500k a year is enough for a reasonable footballer. He's not "top class". He's just "good". Call me old fashioned. Thumbs down on their way.......
UTA!
So if another company offered you a job for less money you would jump at the offer and say thank you very much?
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: Yes, I'm sorry but as much as we would like him back he is now being greedy and is taking the p***. £500k a year is enough for a reasonable footballer. He's not "top class". He's just "good". Call me old fashioned. Thumbs down on their way....... UTA![/p][/quote]So if another company offered you a job for less money you would jump at the offer and say thank you very much? Carlas mum
  • Score: 3

4:40pm Wed 30 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Carlas mum wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry but as much as we would like him back he is now being greedy and is taking the p***.
£500k a year is enough for a reasonable footballer. He's not "top class". He's just "good". Call me old fashioned. Thumbs down on their way.......
UTA!
So if another company offered you a job for less money you would jump at the offer and say thank you very much?
Wolves are reportedly asking a small fee for Ward, the figure of just 100K has been bandied about, to me that is a clear signal that they are making it easy for Ward to go, but there he remains. He gets 90 minutes to put him back in the shop window, it will be interesting to see if any suitors come calling, suitors other than Brighton, maybe Blackpool will make a move.
[quote][p][bold]Carlas mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: Yes, I'm sorry but as much as we would like him back he is now being greedy and is taking the p***. £500k a year is enough for a reasonable footballer. He's not "top class". He's just "good". Call me old fashioned. Thumbs down on their way....... UTA![/p][/quote]So if another company offered you a job for less money you would jump at the offer and say thank you very much?[/p][/quote]Wolves are reportedly asking a small fee for Ward, the figure of just 100K has been bandied about, to me that is a clear signal that they are making it easy for Ward to go, but there he remains. He gets 90 minutes to put him back in the shop window, it will be interesting to see if any suitors come calling, suitors other than Brighton, maybe Blackpool will make a move. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

5:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Newhavenles says...

Would like to see Chicksen make the position his ,not seen too much of him but when he has played he's really quick and hasn't looked out of place.People ,including myself are just frightened that we know what Ward can do and if the,lad is not ready yet it will be too late to sign a replacement We do need cover for the left back position but most important is to spend more money on replacing Leo and Orlandi and a cheaper version of Steven Ward
Would like to see Chicksen make the position his ,not seen too much of him but when he has played he's really quick and hasn't looked out of place.People ,including myself are just frightened that we know what Ward can do and if the,lad is not ready yet it will be too late to sign a replacement We do need cover for the left back position but most important is to spend more money on replacing Leo and Orlandi and a cheaper version of Steven Ward Newhavenles
  • Score: 1

7:18pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

Carlas mum wrote:
Max Ripple wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry but as much as we would like him back he is now being greedy and is taking the p***.
£500k a year is enough for a reasonable footballer. He's not "top class". He's just "good". Call me old fashioned. Thumbs down on their way.......
UTA!
So if another company offered you a job for less money you would jump at the offer and say thank you very much?
Well to be honest - yes - if it meant I was going to get another job. Look, we're not talking the difference between £500 and £400 here - this is £13,000 and £10,000!! Would you turn down a job for £10,000 per week? Five years on £10,000 per week is £2.5 million thank you very much. Just a wee bit more than any of us get paid in an entire lifetime. And we are the ones buying the season tickets to pay him that money.

Thousands of people take jobs on less money than maybe they were on in a previous job.

I'm sorry but I sometimes think people in Football Fanland have completely lost all sense of proportion and reality.

I welcome the thumbs down on this one.
[quote][p][bold]Carlas mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: Yes, I'm sorry but as much as we would like him back he is now being greedy and is taking the p***. £500k a year is enough for a reasonable footballer. He's not "top class". He's just "good". Call me old fashioned. Thumbs down on their way....... UTA![/p][/quote]So if another company offered you a job for less money you would jump at the offer and say thank you very much?[/p][/quote]Well to be honest - yes - if it meant I was going to get another job. Look, we're not talking the difference between £500 and £400 here - this is £13,000 and £10,000!! Would you turn down a job for £10,000 per week? Five years on £10,000 per week is £2.5 million thank you very much. Just a wee bit more than any of us get paid in an entire lifetime. And we are the ones buying the season tickets to pay him that money. Thousands of people take jobs on less money than maybe they were on in a previous job. I'm sorry but I sometimes think people in Football Fanland have completely lost all sense of proportion and reality. I welcome the thumbs down on this one. Max Ripple
  • Score: 3

8:34pm Wed 30 Jul 14

pte says...

Maybe Wolves only want 150k in order to pay him off so he accepts a 10k wage at his next club.

So he's there for the club for 10k pw if they want him

I can't see any other reason for Wolves to be holding out for 150k when if they loan him out again at 10k pw they are only going to lose 150k on the deal anyway
Maybe Wolves only want 150k in order to pay him off so he accepts a 10k wage at his next club. So he's there for the club for 10k pw if they want him I can't see any other reason for Wolves to be holding out for 150k when if they loan him out again at 10k pw they are only going to lose 150k on the deal anyway pte
  • Score: -1

9:03pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

Am now hearing talks are happening with Ward. As with my Clayton tip, I hope my info proves correct.
Am now hearing talks are happening with Ward. As with my Clayton tip, I hope my info proves correct. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

9:15pm Wed 30 Jul 14

AlfieT says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Am now hearing talks are happening with Ward. As with my Clayton tip, I hope my info proves correct.
So do I CH, however I've lost my love for Ward, just think he should have been with us months ago, greed.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Am now hearing talks are happening with Ward. As with my Clayton tip, I hope my info proves correct.[/p][/quote]So do I CH, however I've lost my love for Ward, just think he should have been with us months ago, greed. AlfieT
  • Score: 0

10:45pm Wed 30 Jul 14

oksouthstander says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Am now hearing talks are happening with Ward. As with my Clayton tip, I hope my info proves correct.
Hearing the same,lets be positive both needed for play-off place.:)
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Am now hearing talks are happening with Ward. As with my Clayton tip, I hope my info proves correct.[/p][/quote]Hearing the same,lets be positive both needed for play-off place.:) oksouthstander
  • Score: 0

10:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

I am going to indulge in a favorite American pasttime, conspiracy theorizing. A deal has been agreed with Wolves, part of the agreement was that Ward play 90 minutes last night, thus proving his match fitness and showing that pre-season conditioning has taken place, we had eyes at the match.

Today the talks are with Ward, personal terms, but he isn't going to get all that he wants. A done deal announced tomorrow.
I am going to indulge in a favorite American pasttime, conspiracy theorizing. A deal has been agreed with Wolves, part of the agreement was that Ward play 90 minutes last night, thus proving his match fitness and showing that pre-season conditioning has taken place, we had eyes at the match. Today the talks are with Ward, personal terms, but he isn't going to get all that he wants. A done deal announced tomorrow. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

11:38pm Wed 30 Jul 14

gordongull says...

I still can't figure out why Stephen Ward is being viewed as greedy by some contributors to this site.
Wolves didn't have to give him a contract paying him £13k a week, but they did, and he is a Wolves player until next summer. What incentive is there for him to move to another club for less money?
If Wolves want his wages off the books, that is their problem, not Stephen's, and they will need to ensure that he does not lose out financially if he moves on.
Wolves have received £32m in parachute payments in the last two years. They have £16m still to come. The main purpose of these payments is to enable relegated clubs to continue paying their players after the drop.
Stephen is entitled to think that if they want him out, it should not cost him £150k in lost earnings.
I still can't figure out why Stephen Ward is being viewed as greedy by some contributors to this site. Wolves didn't have to give him a contract paying him £13k a week, but they did, and he is a Wolves player until next summer. What incentive is there for him to move to another club for less money? If Wolves want his wages off the books, that is their problem, not Stephen's, and they will need to ensure that he does not lose out financially if he moves on. Wolves have received £32m in parachute payments in the last two years. They have £16m still to come. The main purpose of these payments is to enable relegated clubs to continue paying their players after the drop. Stephen is entitled to think that if they want him out, it should not cost him £150k in lost earnings. gordongull
  • Score: 2

11:59pm Wed 30 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
I still can't figure out why Stephen Ward is being viewed as greedy by some contributors to this site.
Wolves didn't have to give him a contract paying him £13k a week, but they did, and he is a Wolves player until next summer. What incentive is there for him to move to another club for less money?
If Wolves want his wages off the books, that is their problem, not Stephen's, and they will need to ensure that he does not lose out financially if he moves on.
Wolves have received £32m in parachute payments in the last two years. They have £16m still to come. The main purpose of these payments is to enable relegated clubs to continue paying their players after the drop.
Stephen is entitled to think that if they want him out, it should not cost him £150k in lost earnings.
Two things Ward knows for sure, he has no future with Wolves, they have told him that, and he is on a certain wage for the coming season, even if he doesn't kick a ball.
What kind of deal will he get once this season is over and he is out of contract? We don't know the figures but let's surmise that the 13K is correct and that we are offering 10K.

He could sign with us on a three year deal, pick up 1.5m over the term of the deal. He could take 650K from Wolves over the next year but will he be able to pick up a further 850K over the following two years.
As far as we know we are the only Champ Div club going for him, and only a Champ Div club, or better, is going to pay him 850K for a two year deal. Would you sign him for the 2015/16 season if has sat on his butt for a year at a cost in excess of 8K a week, plus what ever golden hello he might want? The, 'hello,' payment could be 100K, which would push his cost to 9K a week.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: I still can't figure out why Stephen Ward is being viewed as greedy by some contributors to this site. Wolves didn't have to give him a contract paying him £13k a week, but they did, and he is a Wolves player until next summer. What incentive is there for him to move to another club for less money? If Wolves want his wages off the books, that is their problem, not Stephen's, and they will need to ensure that he does not lose out financially if he moves on. Wolves have received £32m in parachute payments in the last two years. They have £16m still to come. The main purpose of these payments is to enable relegated clubs to continue paying their players after the drop. Stephen is entitled to think that if they want him out, it should not cost him £150k in lost earnings.[/p][/quote]Two things Ward knows for sure, he has no future with Wolves, they have told him that, and he is on a certain wage for the coming season, even if he doesn't kick a ball. What kind of deal will he get once this season is over and he is out of contract? We don't know the figures but let's surmise that the 13K is correct and that we are offering 10K. He could sign with us on a three year deal, pick up 1.5m over the term of the deal. He could take 650K from Wolves over the next year but will he be able to pick up a further 850K over the following two years. As far as we know we are the only Champ Div club going for him, and only a Champ Div club, or better, is going to pay him 850K for a two year deal. Would you sign him for the 2015/16 season if has sat on his butt for a year at a cost in excess of 8K a week, plus what ever golden hello he might want? The, 'hello,' payment could be 100K, which would push his cost to 9K a week. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

12:31am Thu 31 Jul 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
I still can't figure out why Stephen Ward is being viewed as greedy by some contributors to this site.
Wolves didn't have to give him a contract paying him £13k a week, but they did, and he is a Wolves player until next summer. What incentive is there for him to move to another club for less money?
If Wolves want his wages off the books, that is their problem, not Stephen's, and they will need to ensure that he does not lose out financially if he moves on.
Wolves have received £32m in parachute payments in the last two years. They have £16m still to come. The main purpose of these payments is to enable relegated clubs to continue paying their players after the drop.
Stephen is entitled to think that if they want him out, it should not cost him £150k in lost earnings.
Two things Ward knows for sure, he has no future with Wolves, they have told him that, and he is on a certain wage for the coming season, even if he doesn't kick a ball.
What kind of deal will he get once this season is over and he is out of contract? We don't know the figures but let's surmise that the 13K is correct and that we are offering 10K.

He could sign with us on a three year deal, pick up 1.5m over the term of the deal. He could take 650K from Wolves over the next year but will he be able to pick up a further 850K over the following two years.
As far as we know we are the only Champ Div club going for him, and only a Champ Div club, or better, is going to pay him 850K for a two year deal. Would you sign him for the 2015/16 season if has sat on his butt for a year at a cost in excess of 8K a week, plus what ever golden hello he might want? The, 'hello,' payment could be 100K, which would push his cost to 9K a week.
I don't think that SW has any intention of sitting on his butt for for a whole season,Vegas, but at this stage, he is hoping to get a deal in which Wolves fulfill their contractual obligations to him.
He could still get the deal that you outline in your first paragraph, but with Wolves paying him the balance of £150k to make up the deficit.

Btw, I wasn't including yourself in posters who have called SW greedy. As far as I know you have never put forward that opinion.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: I still can't figure out why Stephen Ward is being viewed as greedy by some contributors to this site. Wolves didn't have to give him a contract paying him £13k a week, but they did, and he is a Wolves player until next summer. What incentive is there for him to move to another club for less money? If Wolves want his wages off the books, that is their problem, not Stephen's, and they will need to ensure that he does not lose out financially if he moves on. Wolves have received £32m in parachute payments in the last two years. They have £16m still to come. The main purpose of these payments is to enable relegated clubs to continue paying their players after the drop. Stephen is entitled to think that if they want him out, it should not cost him £150k in lost earnings.[/p][/quote]Two things Ward knows for sure, he has no future with Wolves, they have told him that, and he is on a certain wage for the coming season, even if he doesn't kick a ball. What kind of deal will he get once this season is over and he is out of contract? We don't know the figures but let's surmise that the 13K is correct and that we are offering 10K. He could sign with us on a three year deal, pick up 1.5m over the term of the deal. He could take 650K from Wolves over the next year but will he be able to pick up a further 850K over the following two years. As far as we know we are the only Champ Div club going for him, and only a Champ Div club, or better, is going to pay him 850K for a two year deal. Would you sign him for the 2015/16 season if has sat on his butt for a year at a cost in excess of 8K a week, plus what ever golden hello he might want? The, 'hello,' payment could be 100K, which would push his cost to 9K a week.[/p][/quote]I don't think that SW has any intention of sitting on his butt for for a whole season,Vegas, but at this stage, he is hoping to get a deal in which Wolves fulfill their contractual obligations to him. He could still get the deal that you outline in your first paragraph, but with Wolves paying him the balance of £150k to make up the deficit. Btw, I wasn't including yourself in posters who have called SW greedy. As far as I know you have never put forward that opinion. gordongull
  • Score: 0

1:34am Thu 31 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
I still can't figure out why Stephen Ward is being viewed as greedy by some contributors to this site.
Wolves didn't have to give him a contract paying him £13k a week, but they did, and he is a Wolves player until next summer. What incentive is there for him to move to another club for less money?
If Wolves want his wages off the books, that is their problem, not Stephen's, and they will need to ensure that he does not lose out financially if he moves on.
Wolves have received £32m in parachute payments in the last two years. They have £16m still to come. The main purpose of these payments is to enable relegated clubs to continue paying their players after the drop.
Stephen is entitled to think that if they want him out, it should not cost him £150k in lost earnings.
Two things Ward knows for sure, he has no future with Wolves, they have told him that, and he is on a certain wage for the coming season, even if he doesn't kick a ball.
What kind of deal will he get once this season is over and he is out of contract? We don't know the figures but let's surmise that the 13K is correct and that we are offering 10K.

He could sign with us on a three year deal, pick up 1.5m over the term of the deal. He could take 650K from Wolves over the next year but will he be able to pick up a further 850K over the following two years.
As far as we know we are the only Champ Div club going for him, and only a Champ Div club, or better, is going to pay him 850K for a two year deal. Would you sign him for the 2015/16 season if has sat on his butt for a year at a cost in excess of 8K a week, plus what ever golden hello he might want? The, 'hello,' payment could be 100K, which would push his cost to 9K a week.
I don't think that SW has any intention of sitting on his butt for for a whole season,Vegas, but at this stage, he is hoping to get a deal in which Wolves fulfill their contractual obligations to him.
He could still get the deal that you outline in your first paragraph, but with Wolves paying him the balance of £150k to make up the deficit.

Btw, I wasn't including yourself in posters who have called SW greedy. As far as I know you have never put forward that opinion.
No I don't think he is being greedy, but I do think that he might be passing up a great opportunity for the sake of short term gain. Some might call that being greedy, I just think that he is taking what he is entitled to at this time. A new contract with a new club might see changes in his wage deal, but that will be up to him to accept or decline, that might be a time when greed could come into play, but more than likely on the part of his agent.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: I still can't figure out why Stephen Ward is being viewed as greedy by some contributors to this site. Wolves didn't have to give him a contract paying him £13k a week, but they did, and he is a Wolves player until next summer. What incentive is there for him to move to another club for less money? If Wolves want his wages off the books, that is their problem, not Stephen's, and they will need to ensure that he does not lose out financially if he moves on. Wolves have received £32m in parachute payments in the last two years. They have £16m still to come. The main purpose of these payments is to enable relegated clubs to continue paying their players after the drop. Stephen is entitled to think that if they want him out, it should not cost him £150k in lost earnings.[/p][/quote]Two things Ward knows for sure, he has no future with Wolves, they have told him that, and he is on a certain wage for the coming season, even if he doesn't kick a ball. What kind of deal will he get once this season is over and he is out of contract? We don't know the figures but let's surmise that the 13K is correct and that we are offering 10K. He could sign with us on a three year deal, pick up 1.5m over the term of the deal. He could take 650K from Wolves over the next year but will he be able to pick up a further 850K over the following two years. As far as we know we are the only Champ Div club going for him, and only a Champ Div club, or better, is going to pay him 850K for a two year deal. Would you sign him for the 2015/16 season if has sat on his butt for a year at a cost in excess of 8K a week, plus what ever golden hello he might want? The, 'hello,' payment could be 100K, which would push his cost to 9K a week.[/p][/quote]I don't think that SW has any intention of sitting on his butt for for a whole season,Vegas, but at this stage, he is hoping to get a deal in which Wolves fulfill their contractual obligations to him. He could still get the deal that you outline in your first paragraph, but with Wolves paying him the balance of £150k to make up the deficit. Btw, I wasn't including yourself in posters who have called SW greedy. As far as I know you have never put forward that opinion.[/p][/quote]No I don't think he is being greedy, but I do think that he might be passing up a great opportunity for the sake of short term gain. Some might call that being greedy, I just think that he is taking what he is entitled to at this time. A new contract with a new club might see changes in his wage deal, but that will be up to him to accept or decline, that might be a time when greed could come into play, but more than likely on the part of his agent. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

3:31am Thu 31 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

AlfieT wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
Am now hearing talks are happening with Ward. As with my Clayton tip, I hope my info proves correct.
So do I CH, however I've lost my love for Ward, just think he should have been with us months ago, greed.
I don't really see the problem here. If we want Ward (and my guess is we very much do) it COULD just be that the Albion are the ones being smart here. My guess is it's as good as a done deal between SW and BHA with all the figures agreed, subject to fitness being proven (hopefully this box being ticked last night). Every week through the closed season that he is being paid in full by Wolves is another saving for us. Let's not forget that this is a player who knows the set up at Brighton inside out - except Hyypia's specifics - and he shouldn't therefore need long to settle back in. I reckon no other club is involved because a gentlemen's agreement is in place between SW, Wolves and us.

My expectation is that he is already an Albion player bar the formalities. He had his ru out yesterday which we will have watched and the signature and announcement will follow any time now.

No need for worries, and certainly no need to fall out of love with Wardy!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Am now hearing talks are happening with Ward. As with my Clayton tip, I hope my info proves correct.[/p][/quote]So do I CH, however I've lost my love for Ward, just think he should have been with us months ago, greed.[/p][/quote]I don't really see the problem here. If we want Ward (and my guess is we very much do) it COULD just be that the Albion are the ones being smart here. My guess is it's as good as a done deal between SW and BHA with all the figures agreed, subject to fitness being proven (hopefully this box being ticked last night). Every week through the closed season that he is being paid in full by Wolves is another saving for us. Let's not forget that this is a player who knows the set up at Brighton inside out - except Hyypia's specifics - and he shouldn't therefore need long to settle back in. I reckon no other club is involved because a gentlemen's agreement is in place between SW, Wolves and us. My expectation is that he is already an Albion player bar the formalities. He had his ru out yesterday which we will have watched and the signature and announcement will follow any time now. No need for worries, and certainly no need to fall out of love with Wardy! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
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