Hyypia targets more quality signings to make Albion promotion contenders

Sami Hyypia says Albion need to add quality signings if they are to be contenders again

Sami Hyypia says Albion need to add quality signings if they are to be contenders again

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Albion manager Sami Hyypia believes he needs several more quality signings to make Albion strong promotion contenders in the Championship this season.

The Seagulls ended their pre-season programme with a comprehensive 3-1 defeat by Southampton at the Amex last night.

They launch their league campaign at home to Sheffield Wednesday a week tomorrow and Hyypia has warned they still have plenty of work to do in the transfer market.

He told The Argus: “We are working hard to get a few more in.

“I think we need a few more quality signings in the side to really have a go this season.

“But, like I have said before, my main job, is to get everything out of the squad that I have and that is what I am intending to do.

“Other people at the club are working very hard to get in the targets we have.”

All four of the summer signings so far played a part as Albion were outclassed by the impressive Saints. New No. 1 David Stockdale and former Fulham team-mate Aaron Hughes had a full 90 minutes.

Striker Chris O’Grady played the first half and fit-again midfielder Nzuzi Toko came on in the closing stages.

Hyypia’s main priority is replacing Leo Ulloa after his £8 million move to Leicester.

He said: "It’s very important. Every team needs a player who scores goals but we need to be clever and certain before we make any decision on this front.

"I would like this kind of player to be here tomorrow but maybe it will take a little bit longer. We’ll see."

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5:42am Fri 1 Aug 14

OzzieGull says...

Week after week we have waited -now with only days to go we still wait and the chances of the team blending in time for Wednesday's visit are less than slim - even if we manage to sign more players. Surely a deal could have been done long ago for Ward and if other teams can identify, buy, and blend their players in plenty of time, why can't we? No doubt I will get plenty of thumbs down but with the best and most optimistic will in the world it is hard to see us competing seriously for promotion with the squad we have
Week after week we have waited -now with only days to go we still wait and the chances of the team blending in time for Wednesday's visit are less than slim - even if we manage to sign more players. Surely a deal could have been done long ago for Ward and if other teams can identify, buy, and blend their players in plenty of time, why can't we? No doubt I will get plenty of thumbs down but with the best and most optimistic will in the world it is hard to see us competing seriously for promotion with the squad we have OzzieGull
  • Score: 99

6:06am Fri 1 Aug 14

mickagull says...

OzzieGull wrote:
Week after week we have waited -now with only days to go we still wait and the chances of the team blending in time for Wednesday's visit are less than slim - even if we manage to sign more players. Surely a deal could have been done long ago for Ward and if other teams can identify, buy, and blend their players in plenty of time, why can't we? No doubt I will get plenty of thumbs down but with the best and most optimistic will in the world it is hard to see us competing seriously for promotion with the squad we have
I'm sorry to say but I agree. But this was only a half hearted friendly which told me nothing, apart from we need a striker and a left back. Then we may have a 11 players that with a lot of work could learn to play as a team which may then be able to survive in this league. Sorry but I can only say what I see and feel. We all need a pick-me- up, Signing a class striker NOW may do this.
[quote][p][bold]OzzieGull[/bold] wrote: Week after week we have waited -now with only days to go we still wait and the chances of the team blending in time for Wednesday's visit are less than slim - even if we manage to sign more players. Surely a deal could have been done long ago for Ward and if other teams can identify, buy, and blend their players in plenty of time, why can't we? No doubt I will get plenty of thumbs down but with the best and most optimistic will in the world it is hard to see us competing seriously for promotion with the squad we have[/p][/quote]I'm sorry to say but I agree. But this was only a half hearted friendly which told me nothing, apart from we need a striker and a left back. Then we may have a 11 players that with a lot of work could learn to play as a team which may then be able to survive in this league. Sorry but I can only say what I see and feel. We all need a pick-me- up, Signing a class striker NOW may do this. mickagull
  • Score: 35

6:16am Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already)
But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income.
It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts?
But I do think we'll be playing catch up...
There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already) But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income. It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts? But I do think we'll be playing catch up... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 27

6:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Stating the bloody obvious there Sami!!
Stating the bloody obvious there Sami!! Conelli98
  • Score: 18

6:47am Fri 1 Aug 14

Hovenick says...

Last night was a short term disaster which will only be turned into success if the board are minded to listen. Not only was the team loking cheap, but it sounds as if the board have refused to pay the rent on Bennett's Field... when the shuttle bus arrived at the ground from car Park 4 in the univesity, there were disabled people on board, and the lift was not working! This economy drive by the board my cease and cease now. Otherwise more and more people will stop coming to the games, which will hurt the finances through the bar and catering, but hurt the team through the lack of atmosphere.
Whose idea was it to crowd the people from the North tand into the East and West stands, there was no atmosphere at all from the Brighton supporters compared to the Southampton supporters who sounded like the home team.
My message to Tony Bloom is that having created such good will, your board is dissipating it at speed. For your sake and ours' please intervene!
Last night was a short term disaster which will only be turned into success if the board are minded to listen. Not only was the team loking cheap, but it sounds as if the board have refused to pay the rent on Bennett's Field... when the shuttle bus arrived at the ground from car Park 4 in the univesity, there were disabled people on board, and the lift was not working! This economy drive by the board my cease and cease now. Otherwise more and more people will stop coming to the games, which will hurt the finances through the bar and catering, but hurt the team through the lack of atmosphere. Whose idea was it to crowd the people from the North tand into the East and West stands, there was no atmosphere at all from the Brighton supporters compared to the Southampton supporters who sounded like the home team. My message to Tony Bloom is that having created such good will, your board is dissipating it at speed. For your sake and ours' please intervene! Hovenick
  • Score: 50

6:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

Gazza by the sea says...

Well, based on the evidence of last night truly a statement of the blindingly obvious but encouraged to hear the manager come out and say it.

A very pedestrian and unimaginative performance devoid of any guile or cunning whatsoever. Difficult to find any positives at all to be honest. Outclassed from start to finish.

Let's hope those 4 or 5 quality signings are close. Without them it will be a long hard season.
Well, based on the evidence of last night truly a statement of the blindingly obvious but encouraged to hear the manager come out and say it. A very pedestrian and unimaginative performance devoid of any guile or cunning whatsoever. Difficult to find any positives at all to be honest. Outclassed from start to finish. Let's hope those 4 or 5 quality signings are close. Without them it will be a long hard season. Gazza by the sea
  • Score: 22

6:54am Fri 1 Aug 14

Manoli says...

I don't understand whats going on just over a week to go and still looking to add to the team. So again for the 2nd season we our going to play catach up becouse will haven't got a squad that manager feels postive with. Blackpool only a week ago had no squad but a week later have a decert squad now....so it can be done and we have more money to spend than alot of others after the sell of Leo. Lets see if the people behind close doors and we all know who i'm talking about pull their finger out and help Sami out asap. Or is this talk by them about us challaging for the premiership a load crap!!!
I don't understand whats going on just over a week to go and still looking to add to the team. So again for the 2nd season we our going to play catach up becouse will haven't got a squad that manager feels postive with. Blackpool only a week ago had no squad but a week later have a decert squad now....so it can be done and we have more money to spend than alot of others after the sell of Leo. Lets see if the people behind close doors and we all know who i'm talking about pull their finger out and help Sami out asap. Or is this talk by them about us challaging for the premiership a load crap!!! Manoli
  • Score: 22

6:55am Fri 1 Aug 14

leonrobichaud says...

My God, all I've heard all summer is, "we need to strengthen the squad" and a few more signings are hopefully on the horizon". Either stop talking and sign some quality players or be honest with us if there are no actual signings coming. We as fans just want some clarity about the ambition and direction of the club we love. If this is a rebuilding year, tell us it's a rebuilding year. Just be open and honest Albion.
My God, all I've heard all summer is, "we need to strengthen the squad" and a few more signings are hopefully on the horizon". Either stop talking and sign some quality players or be honest with us if there are no actual signings coming. We as fans just want some clarity about the ambition and direction of the club we love. If this is a rebuilding year, tell us it's a rebuilding year. Just be open and honest Albion. leonrobichaud
  • Score: 37

6:57am Fri 1 Aug 14

AlfieT says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already)
But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income.
It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts?
But I do think we'll be playing catch up...
I saw no sign of the counter attacking style that Hyppia is supposed to advocate, we lacked style full stop. We were out passed and out classed in the first half, second half improved slightly, we need players urgently, get Ward in now.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already) But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income. It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts? But I do think we'll be playing catch up...[/p][/quote]I saw no sign of the counter attacking style that Hyppia is supposed to advocate, we lacked style full stop. We were out passed and out classed in the first half, second half improved slightly, we need players urgently, get Ward in now. AlfieT
  • Score: 22

7:14am Fri 1 Aug 14

AlfieT says...

Just seen hyppia's post match interview, it would be a very close run thing between him and Oscar in a Mr personality competition. Sorry to say it, but I miss the passion of Gus.
Just seen hyppia's post match interview, it would be a very close run thing between him and Oscar in a Mr personality competition. Sorry to say it, but I miss the passion of Gus. AlfieT
  • Score: 19

7:15am Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

AlfieT wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already)
But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income.
It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts?
But I do think we'll be playing catch up...
I saw no sign of the counter attacking style that Hyppia is supposed to advocate, we lacked style full stop. We were out passed and out classed in the first half, second half improved slightly, we need players urgently, get Ward in now.
Wasn't there last night so can't comment on the performance, but one further observation of SH's post-match comments..
I just wonder whether there's already a tinge of frustration in his message? It certainly feels like we make the process of adding to our squad far more difficult than everyone else and have become very adept at 'not' signing players?
Without sitting in judgement, Gus clearly had his frustrations, OG too and one common denominator in the last three years appears to be that signing a player is like pulling teeth.
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already) But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income. It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts? But I do think we'll be playing catch up...[/p][/quote]I saw no sign of the counter attacking style that Hyppia is supposed to advocate, we lacked style full stop. We were out passed and out classed in the first half, second half improved slightly, we need players urgently, get Ward in now.[/p][/quote]Wasn't there last night so can't comment on the performance, but one further observation of SH's post-match comments.. I just wonder whether there's already a tinge of frustration in his message? It certainly feels like we make the process of adding to our squad far more difficult than everyone else and have become very adept at 'not' signing players? Without sitting in judgement, Gus clearly had his frustrations, OG too and one common denominator in the last three years appears to be that signing a player is like pulling teeth. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 22

7:17am Fri 1 Aug 14

arc12 says...

The biggest concern from last night was quite simply 'we do not look ready yet' in any shape or form to start our campaign in only a week. I don't think Sammi has a clue what his best 11 is and due to the possibility of late additions he probably still won't know by next weekend. I've not seen the Albion so ill-prepared for the season ahead at this late stage in many a year.
I'm not worried about last nights result but what came across so abundantly clear from what I saw was that we probably need another 3 weeks of preparation as well as 3 or 4 new players.
I accept that expectations are lower this season but does TB & PB really expect us to make a challenge this season - honestly???
The biggest concern from last night was quite simply 'we do not look ready yet' in any shape or form to start our campaign in only a week. I don't think Sammi has a clue what his best 11 is and due to the possibility of late additions he probably still won't know by next weekend. I've not seen the Albion so ill-prepared for the season ahead at this late stage in many a year. I'm not worried about last nights result but what came across so abundantly clear from what I saw was that we probably need another 3 weeks of preparation as well as 3 or 4 new players. I accept that expectations are lower this season but does TB & PB really expect us to make a challenge this season - honestly??? arc12
  • Score: 23

7:22am Fri 1 Aug 14

AlfieT says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already)
But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income.
It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts?
But I do think we'll be playing catch up...
I saw no sign of the counter attacking style that Hyppia is supposed to advocate, we lacked style full stop. We were out passed and out classed in the first half, second half improved slightly, we need players urgently, get Ward in now.
Wasn't there last night so can't comment on the performance, but one further observation of SH's post-match comments..
I just wonder whether there's already a tinge of frustration in his message? It certainly feels like we make the process of adding to our squad far more difficult than everyone else and have become very adept at 'not' signing players?
Without sitting in judgement, Gus clearly had his frustrations, OG too and one common denominator in the last three years appears to be that signing a player is like pulling teeth.
Agree, when you consider what's on offer with a move to Brighton you would expect them to be lining up, is it just money ?
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already) But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income. It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts? But I do think we'll be playing catch up...[/p][/quote]I saw no sign of the counter attacking style that Hyppia is supposed to advocate, we lacked style full stop. We were out passed and out classed in the first half, second half improved slightly, we need players urgently, get Ward in now.[/p][/quote]Wasn't there last night so can't comment on the performance, but one further observation of SH's post-match comments.. I just wonder whether there's already a tinge of frustration in his message? It certainly feels like we make the process of adding to our squad far more difficult than everyone else and have become very adept at 'not' signing players? Without sitting in judgement, Gus clearly had his frustrations, OG too and one common denominator in the last three years appears to be that signing a player is like pulling teeth.[/p][/quote]Agree, when you consider what's on offer with a move to Brighton you would expect them to be lining up, is it just money ? AlfieT
  • Score: 9

7:48am Fri 1 Aug 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Stating the bloody obvious there Sami!!
At least he's stating the bleeding obvious!! I would be more worried if you said that he had all the players needed for this year's campaign. Yes we have 8 days before the season starts. Im sure the club are working hard for at least a couple of signings before the season gets under way. The fans forum will be interesting this week
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Stating the bloody obvious there Sami!![/p][/quote]At least he's stating the bleeding obvious!! I would be more worried if you said that he had all the players needed for this year's campaign. Yes we have 8 days before the season starts. Im sure the club are working hard for at least a couple of signings before the season gets under way. The fans forum will be interesting this week Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: 2

7:57am Fri 1 Aug 14

wallygould says...

Not sure what was worse the football or the warm beer in the East Lounge where the staff didnt know how to work the till
Not sure what was worse the football or the warm beer in the East Lounge where the staff didnt know how to work the till wallygould
  • Score: 3

8:03am Fri 1 Aug 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Oh dear, Sammi is sounding rather too much like Oscar for comfort - and so soon. Sub-text; they have not been honest with me, so don't blame me. Doesn't bode well at all.
Oh dear, Sammi is sounding rather too much like Oscar for comfort - and so soon. Sub-text; they have not been honest with me, so don't blame me. Doesn't bode well at all. Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 11

8:14am Fri 1 Aug 14

lighteninglee says...

Have said it so many times you can't rely on a team of loanies like we have done before because you technically don't have a team. Now the loanies have gone and leo has been sold look at what we are left with... Serious investment is needed if tony bloom wants this club in the prem otherwise we are looking at lower mid table this season.
Have said it so many times you can't rely on a team of loanies like we have done before because you technically don't have a team. Now the loanies have gone and leo has been sold look at what we are left with... Serious investment is needed if tony bloom wants this club in the prem otherwise we are looking at lower mid table this season. lighteninglee
  • Score: 10

8:29am Fri 1 Aug 14

lmspike says...

With no coach oter than jones it will only get worse. Shambes yet again during close season. There must be somehing major wrong with our club, not being able to get players in. Religation battle this year . Then17,ooo gates next season. Downward spiral..........
With no coach oter than jones it will only get worse. Shambes yet again during close season. There must be somehing major wrong with our club, not being able to get players in. Religation battle this year . Then17,ooo gates next season. Downward spiral.......... lmspike
  • Score: 0

8:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

The lev says...

I hope we sign 4 quality players by the end of August or I am destined to live my life as a troll by this forums definition of one , as last night was the most uninspiring performance I have seen from the team , we were so slow to move the ball , no steel , lack of game winners (apart for Lua Lua )
So please mr Bloom , go and buy four top quality championship players to remove my troll status .
I hope we sign 4 quality players by the end of August or I am destined to live my life as a troll by this forums definition of one , as last night was the most uninspiring performance I have seen from the team , we were so slow to move the ball , no steel , lack of game winners (apart for Lua Lua ) So please mr Bloom , go and buy four top quality championship players to remove my troll status . The lev
  • Score: 15

8:39am Fri 1 Aug 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

lmspike wrote:
With no coach oter than jones it will only get worse. Shambes yet again during close season. There must be somehing major wrong with our club, not being able to get players in. Religation battle this year . Then17,ooo gates next season. Downward spiral..........
that many ??
[quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: With no coach oter than jones it will only get worse. Shambes yet again during close season. There must be somehing major wrong with our club, not being able to get players in. Religation battle this year . Then17,ooo gates next season. Downward spiral..........[/p][/quote]that many ?? Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: -1

8:40am Fri 1 Aug 14

TheDuke1 says...

I have gone in to the last 3 seasons with great optimism, however I have to admit to feeling completely the opposite this season. Though friendlies are friendly.....the last few results have shown us what we already knew, the players are not good enough. You cannot lose so many key players (Ulloh, Kusczak, Upson, Bridcutt, Ward etc....) and not replace them, or replace them on the cheap, and expect to succeed at the same time as we appoint an inexperienced manager. I think a couple of bad results early doors and there will be a real feeling of doom.
Hopefully we will make some signings soon, ones that cost a a few ££££'s and are worth getting excited about, though we have all been saying that for a while....
I have gone in to the last 3 seasons with great optimism, however I have to admit to feeling completely the opposite this season. Though friendlies are friendly.....the last few results have shown us what we already knew, the players are not good enough. You cannot lose so many key players (Ulloh, Kusczak, Upson, Bridcutt, Ward etc....) and not replace them, or replace them on the cheap, and expect to succeed at the same time as we appoint an inexperienced manager. I think a couple of bad results early doors and there will be a real feeling of doom. Hopefully we will make some signings soon, ones that cost a a few ££££'s and are worth getting excited about, though we have all been saying that for a while.... TheDuke1
  • Score: 7

8:49am Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Nathan Ake from Chelsea!
Nathan Ake from Chelsea! Conelli98
  • Score: 8

9:02am Fri 1 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

The optimism when we signed David Stockdale has dissipated somewhat in a matter of a few days. What we must remember this was a friendly and Sami is using these games to try out different permutations. It is worrying though that he appears no closer to getting a settled squad. Also Southampton are a quality side even though they have lost almost all their players. It proves their academy system is working. Maybe we'll be in a similar position soon.
I am confident that TB will not allow this situation to linger and will get this sorted soon.
Also it's 1st August. I expect a few signings including Ward pretty soon. UTA
The optimism when we signed David Stockdale has dissipated somewhat in a matter of a few days. What we must remember this was a friendly and Sami is using these games to try out different permutations. It is worrying though that he appears no closer to getting a settled squad. Also Southampton are a quality side even though they have lost almost all their players. It proves their academy system is working. Maybe we'll be in a similar position soon. I am confident that TB will not allow this situation to linger and will get this sorted soon. Also it's 1st August. I expect a few signings including Ward pretty soon. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 1

9:13am Fri 1 Aug 14

thetungsten says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Nathan Ake from Chelsea!
unlikely as both Nathan and Jose believe that his natural position is actually in midfield not in defence- Derby are favourites to land him on loan. Given that we have a quota of young inexperienced midfielders i dont think this will happen.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Nathan Ake from Chelsea![/p][/quote]unlikely as both Nathan and Jose believe that his natural position is actually in midfield not in defence- Derby are favourites to land him on loan. Given that we have a quota of young inexperienced midfielders i dont think this will happen. thetungsten
  • Score: 4

9:23am Fri 1 Aug 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

AlfieT wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already)
But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income.
It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts?
But I do think we'll be playing catch up...
I saw no sign of the counter attacking style that Hyppia is supposed to advocate, we lacked style full stop. We were out passed and out classed in the first half, second half improved slightly, we need players urgently, get Ward in now.
Wasn't there last night so can't comment on the performance, but one further observation of SH's post-match comments..
I just wonder whether there's already a tinge of frustration in his message? It certainly feels like we make the process of adding to our squad far more difficult than everyone else and have become very adept at 'not' signing players?
Without sitting in judgement, Gus clearly had his frustrations, OG too and one common denominator in the last three years appears to be that signing a player is like pulling teeth.
Agree, when you consider what's on offer with a move to Brighton you would expect them to be lining up, is it just money ?
Maybe time to shoot the messenger ?
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: There have been many different opinions raised after last night, ranging from cautious, patient optimism (blind faith?) to complete, pessimistic resignation. (already) But it seems the fans and the manager agree on one specific point, the squad needs strengthening after the departure of some decent players and the arrival of some hefty income. It's fairly obvious we're worse off than we were at the start of last season but whatever the merits of last night's performance, or others during pre-season, I'm not sure we'll really know how far away we are, until the competitive stuff starts? But I do think we'll be playing catch up...[/p][/quote]I saw no sign of the counter attacking style that Hyppia is supposed to advocate, we lacked style full stop. We were out passed and out classed in the first half, second half improved slightly, we need players urgently, get Ward in now.[/p][/quote]Wasn't there last night so can't comment on the performance, but one further observation of SH's post-match comments.. I just wonder whether there's already a tinge of frustration in his message? It certainly feels like we make the process of adding to our squad far more difficult than everyone else and have become very adept at 'not' signing players? Without sitting in judgement, Gus clearly had his frustrations, OG too and one common denominator in the last three years appears to be that signing a player is like pulling teeth.[/p][/quote]Agree, when you consider what's on offer with a move to Brighton you would expect them to be lining up, is it just money ?[/p][/quote]Maybe time to shoot the messenger ? Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 1

9:27am Fri 1 Aug 14

Newhavenles says...

Judging by the many post in the Argus there didn't seem to any positives with either the team,the journey,the food and drink,and everything else about the overall experience of the night.Hope I am not the only one that turns up for the first game of the season. ,!!
Judging by the many post in the Argus there didn't seem to any positives with either the team,the journey,the food and drink,and everything else about the overall experience of the night.Hope I am not the only one that turns up for the first game of the season. ,!! Newhavenles
  • Score: 4

9:42am Fri 1 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

TheDuke1 wrote:
I have gone in to the last 3 seasons with great optimism, however I have to admit to feeling completely the opposite this season. Though friendlies are friendly.....the last few results have shown us what we already knew, the players are not good enough. You cannot lose so many key players (Ulloh, Kusczak, Upson, Bridcutt, Ward etc....) and not replace them, or replace them on the cheap, and expect to succeed at the same time as we appoint an inexperienced manager. I think a couple of bad results early doors and there will be a real feeling of doom.
Hopefully we will make some signings soon, ones that cost a a few ££££'s and are worth getting excited about, though we have all been saying that for a while....
Good honest thoughts and what most Albion supporters with any sense of realism are thinking.
[quote][p][bold]TheDuke1[/bold] wrote: I have gone in to the last 3 seasons with great optimism, however I have to admit to feeling completely the opposite this season. Though friendlies are friendly.....the last few results have shown us what we already knew, the players are not good enough. You cannot lose so many key players (Ulloh, Kusczak, Upson, Bridcutt, Ward etc....) and not replace them, or replace them on the cheap, and expect to succeed at the same time as we appoint an inexperienced manager. I think a couple of bad results early doors and there will be a real feeling of doom. Hopefully we will make some signings soon, ones that cost a a few ££££'s and are worth getting excited about, though we have all been saying that for a while....[/p][/quote]Good honest thoughts and what most Albion supporters with any sense of realism are thinking. Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 6

9:44am Fri 1 Aug 14

tug509 says...

I didn`t see last nights game ,but all above have painted an unmistakable picture ,it appears we have too many chiefs and not enough Indians ,or too many cooks in the kitchen ,however you want to look at it . This is why for 110 years we didn`t have the suits to interfere with transfers ,before it was the manager who said go get him ,and the backroom staff would have done ,now the suits are involved it seems each of them needs to prove their worth and have their say ,consequence we end up over complicating every transfer ,result we lose out ,I`m sure as Lev suggested my attitude will fast earn me troll status ,but it is glaringly obvious all this crap started when the suits got involved ,or are we going to bury our heads in the sand for another season ,suits = general running of the club ,Sami = everything team related especially transfers ,or are we saying that he doesn`t know his football ? . UTA
I didn`t see last nights game ,but all above have painted an unmistakable picture ,it appears we have too many chiefs and not enough Indians ,or too many cooks in the kitchen ,however you want to look at it . This is why for 110 years we didn`t have the suits to interfere with transfers ,before it was the manager who said go get him ,and the backroom staff would have done ,now the suits are involved it seems each of them needs to prove their worth and have their say ,consequence we end up over complicating every transfer ,result we lose out ,I`m sure as Lev suggested my attitude will fast earn me troll status ,but it is glaringly obvious all this crap started when the suits got involved ,or are we going to bury our heads in the sand for another season ,suits = general running of the club ,Sami = everything team related especially transfers ,or are we saying that he doesn`t know his football ? . UTA tug509
  • Score: 1

10:03am Fri 1 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

Hovenick wrote:
Last night was a short term disaster which will only be turned into success if the board are minded to listen. Not only was the team loking cheap, but it sounds as if the board have refused to pay the rent on Bennett's Field... when the shuttle bus arrived at the ground from car Park 4 in the univesity, there were disabled people on board, and the lift was not working! This economy drive by the board my cease and cease now. Otherwise more and more people will stop coming to the games, which will hurt the finances through the bar and catering, but hurt the team through the lack of atmosphere.
Whose idea was it to crowd the people from the North tand into the East and West stands, there was no atmosphere at all from the Brighton supporters compared to the Southampton supporters who sounded like the home team.
My message to Tony Bloom is that having created such good will, your board is dissipating it at speed. For your sake and ours' please intervene!
Sorry Hovenick. But the landowner of Bennetts field tried to put the rent on the field up by three times what it has been for the last three years. He thought he could get the Albion over a barrel and at the moment TB is calling his bluff by not renewing this contract. The man has got greedy. If TB can get away with not needing the field (and that remains to be seen) then this guy has shot himself in the foot.

Apart from that - this is now Sammi's third story on these lines in a week. He is getting frustrated, I've no doubt. False promises from the board, I feel. As I've said before, one or two good to average signings do not make a summer. To me, Barber sounded like he was having a pop at fans and critics in his article on the website. "You don't know what you are talking about, you have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, what the fans see or don't see doesn't mean we aren't looking at top quality players etc etc" that sort of things ( not direct quotes). He's worried he's going to get a hard time in the 5th at the Fans Forum.
[quote][p][bold]Hovenick[/bold] wrote: Last night was a short term disaster which will only be turned into success if the board are minded to listen. Not only was the team loking cheap, but it sounds as if the board have refused to pay the rent on Bennett's Field... when the shuttle bus arrived at the ground from car Park 4 in the univesity, there were disabled people on board, and the lift was not working! This economy drive by the board my cease and cease now. Otherwise more and more people will stop coming to the games, which will hurt the finances through the bar and catering, but hurt the team through the lack of atmosphere. Whose idea was it to crowd the people from the North tand into the East and West stands, there was no atmosphere at all from the Brighton supporters compared to the Southampton supporters who sounded like the home team. My message to Tony Bloom is that having created such good will, your board is dissipating it at speed. For your sake and ours' please intervene![/p][/quote]Sorry Hovenick. But the landowner of Bennetts field tried to put the rent on the field up by three times what it has been for the last three years. He thought he could get the Albion over a barrel and at the moment TB is calling his bluff by not renewing this contract. The man has got greedy. If TB can get away with not needing the field (and that remains to be seen) then this guy has shot himself in the foot. Apart from that - this is now Sammi's third story on these lines in a week. He is getting frustrated, I've no doubt. False promises from the board, I feel. As I've said before, one or two good to average signings do not make a summer. To me, Barber sounded like he was having a pop at fans and critics in his article on the website. "You don't know what you are talking about, you have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, what the fans see or don't see doesn't mean we aren't looking at top quality players etc etc" that sort of things ( not direct quotes). He's worried he's going to get a hard time in the 5th at the Fans Forum. Max Ripple
  • Score: -1

10:12am Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

tug509 wrote:
I didn`t see last nights game ,but all above have painted an unmistakable picture ,it appears we have too many chiefs and not enough Indians ,or too many cooks in the kitchen ,however you want to look at it . This is why for 110 years we didn`t have the suits to interfere with transfers ,before it was the manager who said go get him ,and the backroom staff would have done ,now the suits are involved it seems each of them needs to prove their worth and have their say ,consequence we end up over complicating every transfer ,result we lose out ,I`m sure as Lev suggested my attitude will fast earn me troll status ,but it is glaringly obvious all this crap started when the suits got involved ,or are we going to bury our heads in the sand for another season ,suits = general running of the club ,Sami = everything team related especially transfers ,or are we saying that he doesn`t know his football ? . UTA
Morning Tug, the one thing we don't have is a chief, especially in midfield. We have plenty of Indians but like Hypia said no one with real quality and experience. CROFTS is the one exception to the rule but we need a quality playmaker in the middle of the park. CLAYTON fits the bill. Loosen the purse strings Tony please!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: I didn`t see last nights game ,but all above have painted an unmistakable picture ,it appears we have too many chiefs and not enough Indians ,or too many cooks in the kitchen ,however you want to look at it . This is why for 110 years we didn`t have the suits to interfere with transfers ,before it was the manager who said go get him ,and the backroom staff would have done ,now the suits are involved it seems each of them needs to prove their worth and have their say ,consequence we end up over complicating every transfer ,result we lose out ,I`m sure as Lev suggested my attitude will fast earn me troll status ,but it is glaringly obvious all this crap started when the suits got involved ,or are we going to bury our heads in the sand for another season ,suits = general running of the club ,Sami = everything team related especially transfers ,or are we saying that he doesn`t know his football ? . UTA[/p][/quote]Morning Tug, the one thing we don't have is a chief, especially in midfield. We have plenty of Indians but like Hypia said no one with real quality and experience. CROFTS is the one exception to the rule but we need a quality playmaker in the middle of the park. CLAYTON fits the bill. Loosen the purse strings Tony please! Conelli98
  • Score: 7

10:15am Fri 1 Aug 14

daveyboy35 says...

NO **** SHERLOCK
NO **** SHERLOCK daveyboy35
  • Score: -2

10:17am Fri 1 Aug 14

daveyboy35 says...

AlfieT wrote:
Just seen hyppia's post match interview, it would be a very close run thing between him and Oscar in a Mr personality competition. Sorry to say it, but I miss the passion of Gus.
He looks and sound like he's already had enough and doesn't want to be here!!!!
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Just seen hyppia's post match interview, it would be a very close run thing between him and Oscar in a Mr personality competition. Sorry to say it, but I miss the passion of Gus.[/p][/quote]He looks and sound like he's already had enough and doesn't want to be here!!!! daveyboy35
  • Score: -4

10:17am Fri 1 Aug 14

portugal35 says...

End of August bottom of League ,no wins ,sack manager ,bring in Glenn Hoddle ,my prediction for the next 5 weeks.
End of August bottom of League ,no wins ,sack manager ,bring in Glenn Hoddle ,my prediction for the next 5 weeks. portugal35
  • Score: -12

10:21am Fri 1 Aug 14

jarmonesque says...

How long have you lot been supporting the Albion? Its like this every summer.
How long have you lot been supporting the Albion? Its like this every summer. jarmonesque
  • Score: 9

10:30am Fri 1 Aug 14

pte says...

Apart from Ward, I think the squad of players is as strong as what started last season, remember Ulloa and Bridcutt were out injured at the start.

Some players are just coming back from injury and a new system is being developed.

A proven striker is needed above all else but that's always going to be the hardest and last piece of the jigsaw. Unless you want to chuck 12m its going to take time. Murray would be the most economic and safest option.

It's a pity we never held onto Murray, then the CMS money could have been used elsewhere and I think we would have gone straight up in our first season
Apart from Ward, I think the squad of players is as strong as what started last season, remember Ulloa and Bridcutt were out injured at the start. Some players are just coming back from injury and a new system is being developed. A proven striker is needed above all else but that's always going to be the hardest and last piece of the jigsaw. Unless you want to chuck 12m its going to take time. Murray would be the most economic and safest option. It's a pity we never held onto Murray, then the CMS money could have been used elsewhere and I think we would have gone straight up in our first season pte
  • Score: -1

10:34am Fri 1 Aug 14

tug509 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
I didn`t see last nights game ,but all above have painted an unmistakable picture ,it appears we have too many chiefs and not enough Indians ,or too many cooks in the kitchen ,however you want to look at it . This is why for 110 years we didn`t have the suits to interfere with transfers ,before it was the manager who said go get him ,and the backroom staff would have done ,now the suits are involved it seems each of them needs to prove their worth and have their say ,consequence we end up over complicating every transfer ,result we lose out ,I`m sure as Lev suggested my attitude will fast earn me troll status ,but it is glaringly obvious all this crap started when the suits got involved ,or are we going to bury our heads in the sand for another season ,suits = general running of the club ,Sami = everything team related especially transfers ,or are we saying that he doesn`t know his football ? . UTA
Morning Tug, the one thing we don't have is a chief, especially in midfield. We have plenty of Indians but like Hypia said no one with real quality and experience. CROFTS is the one exception to the rule but we need a quality playmaker in the middle of the park. CLAYTON fits the bill. Loosen the purse strings Tony please!
Good morning Conelli ,I don't know how much truth is in it but ,when I read the H,field forum the other day ,one of their lads said they had gone back on their word with M,Boro and upped the asking price for Clayton drastically . When you've got a club like Blackpool who`s supporter`s hate Karl Oyston ,and by their own admission think he is sucking the life out of their club ,and they are showing us the way to go with transfers ,you have to wonder what`s going on . We need to identify our player as Leicester did with Leo ,put the money on the table and make a decision before it causes a knock on effect through the club with gates and merchandise ,I hope I`m wrong but it seems were trying not to spend any money . UTA
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: I didn`t see last nights game ,but all above have painted an unmistakable picture ,it appears we have too many chiefs and not enough Indians ,or too many cooks in the kitchen ,however you want to look at it . This is why for 110 years we didn`t have the suits to interfere with transfers ,before it was the manager who said go get him ,and the backroom staff would have done ,now the suits are involved it seems each of them needs to prove their worth and have their say ,consequence we end up over complicating every transfer ,result we lose out ,I`m sure as Lev suggested my attitude will fast earn me troll status ,but it is glaringly obvious all this crap started when the suits got involved ,or are we going to bury our heads in the sand for another season ,suits = general running of the club ,Sami = everything team related especially transfers ,or are we saying that he doesn`t know his football ? . UTA[/p][/quote]Morning Tug, the one thing we don't have is a chief, especially in midfield. We have plenty of Indians but like Hypia said no one with real quality and experience. CROFTS is the one exception to the rule but we need a quality playmaker in the middle of the park. CLAYTON fits the bill. Loosen the purse strings Tony please![/p][/quote]Good morning Conelli ,I don't know how much truth is in it but ,when I read the H,field forum the other day ,one of their lads said they had gone back on their word with M,Boro and upped the asking price for Clayton drastically . When you've got a club like Blackpool who`s supporter`s hate Karl Oyston ,and by their own admission think he is sucking the life out of their club ,and they are showing us the way to go with transfers ,you have to wonder what`s going on . We need to identify our player as Leicester did with Leo ,put the money on the table and make a decision before it causes a knock on effect through the club with gates and merchandise ,I hope I`m wrong but it seems were trying not to spend any money . UTA tug509
  • Score: -1

10:39am Fri 1 Aug 14

MikeTheMan says...

We've been very poor in our pre-season matches against league teams and it's obvious we need new players. Realistic supporters knew at the end of last season t that we needed 5 or 6 new quality players. We've had two months to get those players in: we now have a week to go before our first league match, we look a poor team and we still need 4, probably 5, new quality players. We've got a pile of money from selling Ulloa so stop talking about it and making excuses and get 4 or 5 QUALITY players in. An we don't want more free transfer players in their thirties who have been put out to graze, we want genuine quality players. Let's see some action.
We've been very poor in our pre-season matches against league teams and it's obvious we need new players. Realistic supporters knew at the end of last season t that we needed 5 or 6 new quality players. We've had two months to get those players in: we now have a week to go before our first league match, we look a poor team and we still need 4, probably 5, new quality players. We've got a pile of money from selling Ulloa so stop talking about it and making excuses and get 4 or 5 QUALITY players in. An we don't want more free transfer players in their thirties who have been put out to graze, we want genuine quality players. Let's see some action. MikeTheMan
  • Score: 10

10:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

Crucial Point says...

Hyypia seems very enthusiastic right now, and I really do believe he is. But if the signings don't come, (little sign at present) will he be just as enthusiastic come the end of the season? Or will he become a One Season Sammi?
Hyypia seems very enthusiastic right now, and I really do believe he is. But if the signings don't come, (little sign at present) will he be just as enthusiastic come the end of the season? Or will he become a One Season Sammi? Crucial Point
  • Score: -1

10:56am Fri 1 Aug 14

London Dave says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Oh dear, Sammi is sounding rather too much like Oscar for comfort - and so soon. Sub-text; they have not been honest with me, so don't blame me. Doesn't bode well at all.
Deja vu all over again. And sadly all very predictable.
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, Sammi is sounding rather too much like Oscar for comfort - and so soon. Sub-text; they have not been honest with me, so don't blame me. Doesn't bode well at all.[/p][/quote]Deja vu all over again. And sadly all very predictable. London Dave
  • Score: -3

11:03am Fri 1 Aug 14

pte says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Oh dear, Sammi is sounding rather too much like Oscar for comfort - and so soon. Sub-text; they have not been honest with me, so don't blame me. Doesn't bode well at all.
Pull yourself together.

If it were really that bad Sami would have resigned by now rather than wait for the slow lingering death you envisage
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, Sammi is sounding rather too much like Oscar for comfort - and so soon. Sub-text; they have not been honest with me, so don't blame me. Doesn't bode well at all.[/p][/quote]Pull yourself together. If it were really that bad Sami would have resigned by now rather than wait for the slow lingering death you envisage pte
  • Score: 5

11:07am Fri 1 Aug 14

London Dave says...

pte wrote:
Apart from Ward, I think the squad of players is as strong as what started last season, remember Ulloa and Bridcutt were out injured at the start.

Some players are just coming back from injury and a new system is being developed.

A proven striker is needed above all else but that's always going to be the hardest and last piece of the jigsaw. Unless you want to chuck 12m its going to take time. Murray would be the most economic and safest option.

It's a pity we never held onto Murray, then the CMS money could have been used elsewhere and I think we would have gone straight up in our first season
Calderon's a liability defensively and Bruno is injury prone. Dunk's got potential, but still a worry if one of main CBs gets injured. Is everyone on this site totally convinced by Greer anyway? Issues at left back you've highlighted. Centre mid replacements youthful and lots of potential, but not yet top quality. We missed Crofts and Stephens badly when they got injured. KLL an exciting substitute, in the sense that we have no idea what he's going to do next (apart from possibly shoot from 40 yards or try to go round the defender at least a couple of times more than he has to), Buckley injury prone and so a bit stop start - personally I also think he lacks self belief and that killer instinct (think Zaha at Amex the year before last). Great to have CMS back - what a work rate and fan's favourite. O'Grady unlikely to be the next Ings or Austin. All in all, let's say there are some issues...

Premiership ready with great stadium, training facilities and large fan base. Sadly on the playing side we're nowhere near.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: Apart from Ward, I think the squad of players is as strong as what started last season, remember Ulloa and Bridcutt were out injured at the start. Some players are just coming back from injury and a new system is being developed. A proven striker is needed above all else but that's always going to be the hardest and last piece of the jigsaw. Unless you want to chuck 12m its going to take time. Murray would be the most economic and safest option. It's a pity we never held onto Murray, then the CMS money could have been used elsewhere and I think we would have gone straight up in our first season[/p][/quote]Calderon's a liability defensively and Bruno is injury prone. Dunk's got potential, but still a worry if one of main CBs gets injured. Is everyone on this site totally convinced by Greer anyway? Issues at left back you've highlighted. Centre mid replacements youthful and lots of potential, but not yet top quality. We missed Crofts and Stephens badly when they got injured. KLL an exciting substitute, in the sense that we have no idea what he's going to do next (apart from possibly shoot from 40 yards or try to go round the defender at least a couple of times more than he has to), Buckley injury prone and so a bit stop start - personally I also think he lacks self belief and that killer instinct (think Zaha at Amex the year before last). Great to have CMS back - what a work rate and fan's favourite. O'Grady unlikely to be the next Ings or Austin. All in all, let's say there are some issues... Premiership ready with great stadium, training facilities and large fan base. Sadly on the playing side we're nowhere near. London Dave
  • Score: 6

11:15am Fri 1 Aug 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Oh dear - depression well and truly here and we have a weekend coming up!What would lift the 'down in the dumps' feeling if we could get a proven goal scorer with a track record of a goal every 2/3 games so If there is any truth in the Joe Mason situation thren I do not think he is the answer.Re Ward I would have thought the Albion would have signed him by now so as it has dragged on for so long I don' think he his coming to us and Sami is looking elsewhere.Thanks for those who posted their comments re last night - some did a better job than Mr.Naylor!Not a good pre-season however.
Oh dear - depression well and truly here and we have a weekend coming up!What would lift the 'down in the dumps' feeling if we could get a proven goal scorer with a track record of a goal every 2/3 games so If there is any truth in the Joe Mason situation thren I do not think he is the answer.Re Ward I would have thought the Albion would have signed him by now so as it has dragged on for so long I don' think he his coming to us and Sami is looking elsewhere.Thanks for those who posted their comments re last night - some did a better job than Mr.Naylor!Not a good pre-season however. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 5

11:27am Fri 1 Aug 14

Newhavenles says...

OzzieGull wrote:
Week after week we have waited -now with only days to go we still wait and the chances of the team blending in time for Wednesday's visit are less than slim - even if we manage to sign more players. Surely a deal could have been done long ago for Ward and if other teams can identify, buy, and blend their players in plenty of time, why can't we? No doubt I will get plenty of thumbs down but with the best and most optimistic will in the world it is hard to see us competing seriously for promotion with the squad we have
Have never seen so many thumbs up for any other comment ,i hope that Tony Bloom has read this as well,this post and the reaction says it all
[quote][p][bold]OzzieGull[/bold] wrote: Week after week we have waited -now with only days to go we still wait and the chances of the team blending in time for Wednesday's visit are less than slim - even if we manage to sign more players. Surely a deal could have been done long ago for Ward and if other teams can identify, buy, and blend their players in plenty of time, why can't we? No doubt I will get plenty of thumbs down but with the best and most optimistic will in the world it is hard to see us competing seriously for promotion with the squad we have[/p][/quote]Have never seen so many thumbs up for any other comment ,i hope that Tony Bloom has read this as well,this post and the reaction says it all Newhavenles
  • Score: 7

11:30am Fri 1 Aug 14

the herbster says...

daveyboy35 wrote:
AlfieT wrote: Just seen hyppia's post match interview, it would be a very close run thing between him and Oscar in a Mr personality competition. Sorry to say it, but I miss the passion of Gus.
He looks and sound like he's already had enough and doesn't want to be here!!!!
Exactly what i thought. Could he look any more uninpressed.I would be amazed if he is still here in May. He might feel a little let down before a ball is even kicked.
[quote][p][bold]daveyboy35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Just seen hyppia's post match interview, it would be a very close run thing between him and Oscar in a Mr personality competition. Sorry to say it, but I miss the passion of Gus.[/p][/quote]He looks and sound like he's already had enough and doesn't want to be here!!!![/p][/quote]Exactly what i thought. Could he look any more uninpressed.I would be amazed if he is still here in May. He might feel a little let down before a ball is even kicked. the herbster
  • Score: -3

11:55am Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Ok, a gut reaction which I'm not sure I'm not completely convinced of myself and one that could be made to look very stupid with a couple of decent additions anytime soon. But....
Gus left in a huff, OG pretty much likewise and after his comments over the last week, there's just a nagging thought that Hyppia, a man who probably doesn't need the money and definitely doesn't need a career's worth of international credibility washed away in a few months, , might just tell us to stick it before too long.
Ok, a gut reaction which I'm not sure I'm not completely convinced of myself and one that could be made to look very stupid with a couple of decent additions anytime soon. But.... Gus left in a huff, OG pretty much likewise and after his comments over the last week, there's just a nagging thought that Hyppia, a man who probably doesn't need the money and definitely doesn't need a career's worth of international credibility washed away in a few months, , might just tell us to stick it before too long. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

12:29pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Potent has told Wickham, sign a new deal or be sold!
Gus...let's do a deal, you can have Buckley and we take Wickham! There you go simple! Who needs agents???
Potent has told Wickham, sign a new deal or be sold! Gus...let's do a deal, you can have Buckley and we take Wickham! There you go simple! Who needs agents??? Conelli98
  • Score: 3

12:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Potent has told Wickham, sign a new deal or be sold!
Gus...let's do a deal, you can have Buckley and we take Wickham! There you go simple! Who needs agents???
Meant Poyet!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Potent has told Wickham, sign a new deal or be sold! Gus...let's do a deal, you can have Buckley and we take Wickham! There you go simple! Who needs agents???[/p][/quote]Meant Poyet! Conelli98
  • Score: 3

1:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gazza by the sea says...

If Wickham won't sign a contract for what Sunderland are offering him then he sure ain't signing one or what Tony will offer!
If Wickham won't sign a contract for what Sunderland are offering him then he sure ain't signing one or what Tony will offer! Gazza by the sea
  • Score: 7

1:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

The idea being offered by some, 'Hyypia is not getting the backing from the board that he needs,' is just wild speculation based on nothing more than what the authors are conjuring up in their own minds.

Hyypia tells of needing some more quality players, well yeah I think we all know that, Hyypia has also told us that, 'all,' at the club are working hard to get the players needed, that doesn't sound like the board/suits, are not backing him. Not one word from Hyypia that might suggest that the club are trying to do things on the cheap, as some have suggested many times.

Hyypia wants something like four quality players, well just about every team in our division want the same. A quality player who might be available will have several suitors and his parent club will be in no rush to sell, why should they be, the more interest the higher the fee and the closer we get to the start of the season, or the closing of the window, the more likely suitors will be to pay over the odds to get their man.
Signing average players can be done in a heart beat, the signing of quality players could go all the way to the last day of the window, if only because the number of quality players available is small and the level of demand is high.

My guess is that we have targets to fill our needs, they have been identified and negotiations are proceeding, but the pace of those negotiations is being decided by the clubs that owns our targets, and that is what is the cause of the frustration being felt. The only way we can speed up those negotiations would be to offer what no other club will offer, in other words, pay over the odds, both in fees and wages, is that what we want to happen? Players will come but they have to come on terms that the club can live with.
Two players costig 2M each and getting 10K a week, wipes out 7M of Ulloa's 8M over a three year contract, we need at least four such players.
The idea being offered by some, 'Hyypia is not getting the backing from the board that he needs,' is just wild speculation based on nothing more than what the authors are conjuring up in their own minds. Hyypia tells of needing some more quality players, well yeah I think we all know that, Hyypia has also told us that, 'all,' at the club are working hard to get the players needed, that doesn't sound like the board/suits, are not backing him. Not one word from Hyypia that might suggest that the club are trying to do things on the cheap, as some have suggested many times. Hyypia wants something like four quality players, well just about every team in our division want the same. A quality player who might be available will have several suitors and his parent club will be in no rush to sell, why should they be, the more interest the higher the fee and the closer we get to the start of the season, or the closing of the window, the more likely suitors will be to pay over the odds to get their man. Signing average players can be done in a heart beat, the signing of quality players could go all the way to the last day of the window, if only because the number of quality players available is small and the level of demand is high. My guess is that we have targets to fill our needs, they have been identified and negotiations are proceeding, but the pace of those negotiations is being decided by the clubs that owns our targets, and that is what is the cause of the frustration being felt. The only way we can speed up those negotiations would be to offer what no other club will offer, in other words, pay over the odds, both in fees and wages, is that what we want to happen? Players will come but they have to come on terms that the club can live with. Two players costig 2M each and getting 10K a week, wipes out 7M of Ulloa's 8M over a three year contract, we need at least four such players. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

1:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

tinker111 says...

OzzieGull wrote:
Week after week we have waited -now with only days to go we still wait and the chances of the team blending in time for Wednesday's visit are less than slim - even if we manage to sign more players. Surely a deal could have been done long ago for Ward and if other teams can identify, buy, and blend their players in plenty of time, why can't we? No doubt I will get plenty of thumbs down but with the best and most optimistic will in the world it is hard to see us competing seriously for promotion with the squad we have
Sorry but adding quality to non quality wont do it and more to POINT S/H wont be here by end of year sadly sold a pup by Albion no money as promised SAMI GO BEFORE YOUR TALENT IS WAISTED " YOU WONT GET BACK UP FROM CLUB JUST EMPTY PROMISES"
[quote][p][bold]OzzieGull[/bold] wrote: Week after week we have waited -now with only days to go we still wait and the chances of the team blending in time for Wednesday's visit are less than slim - even if we manage to sign more players. Surely a deal could have been done long ago for Ward and if other teams can identify, buy, and blend their players in plenty of time, why can't we? No doubt I will get plenty of thumbs down but with the best and most optimistic will in the world it is hard to see us competing seriously for promotion with the squad we have[/p][/quote]Sorry but adding quality to non quality wont do it and more to POINT S/H wont be here by end of year sadly sold a pup by Albion no money as promised SAMI GO BEFORE YOUR TALENT IS WAISTED " YOU WONT GET BACK UP FROM CLUB JUST EMPTY PROMISES" tinker111
  • Score: -8

2:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

tinker111 says...

AlfieT wrote:
Just seen hyppia's post match interview, it would be a very close run thing between him and Oscar in a Mr personality competition. Sorry to say it, but I miss the passion of Gus.
SO do we all miss GUS .

S/H body/ L says it all last evening , just coach NJ in tech box wasting his time & SH just sitting doing NOWT don't blame him take the club's money and RUN S/H go before you get sucked in to the money money board and FANS DONT COUNT.
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Just seen hyppia's post match interview, it would be a very close run thing between him and Oscar in a Mr personality competition. Sorry to say it, but I miss the passion of Gus.[/p][/quote]SO do we all miss GUS . S/H body/ L says it all last evening , just coach NJ in tech box wasting his time & SH just sitting doing NOWT don't blame him take the club's money and RUN S/H go before you get sucked in to the money money board and FANS DONT COUNT. tinker111
  • Score: -4

2:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Potent has told Wickham, sign a new deal or be sold!
Gus...let's do a deal, you can have Buckley and we take Wickham! There you go simple! Who needs agents???
Nice idea but not sure we could afford Wickham's wage demands
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Potent has told Wickham, sign a new deal or be sold! Gus...let's do a deal, you can have Buckley and we take Wickham! There you go simple! Who needs agents???[/p][/quote]Nice idea but not sure we could afford Wickham's wage demands Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 1

2:40pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Chris Wood remains my first choice
Chris Wood remains my first choice Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: -5

2:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

franckiep says...

The doom mongers never stop trying to drag our great club down, so much negativity. We can TRUST our great club to do the the right thing. DO you not understand it is all in the employed peoples interest to get the club where WE all want to be. BE Patient PLEASE.
The doom mongers never stop trying to drag our great club down, so much negativity. We can TRUST our great club to do the the right thing. DO you not understand it is all in the employed peoples interest to get the club where WE all want to be. BE Patient PLEASE. franckiep
  • Score: -10

5:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

graham w says...

Im getting quite concerned now, a week to go to season starts, I paid in full for this seasons seat back in early march 2 months before last season ended.
They the albion havnt brought anyone of any consequence in.
They have had a captive audience for the last two seasons.
They won't have that next season if either money isn't spent, or we finnish in top 6, any thing less, season tickets wont be renewed in march.people are very fickel, I fear support could dwindle to around the 12000 mark.
and just leave the hard core, I see Bennets field has been lost now , due to the albion not paying anothe few quid rent to farmer who owns it..
I think its time to re think Barbers & Burkes position. ..UTA...
Im getting quite concerned now, a week to go to season starts, I paid in full for this seasons seat back in early march 2 months before last season ended. They the albion havnt brought anyone of any consequence in. They have had a captive audience for the last two seasons. They won't have that next season if either money isn't spent, or we finnish in top 6, any thing less, season tickets wont be renewed in march.people are very fickel, I fear support could dwindle to around the 12000 mark. and just leave the hard core, I see Bennets field has been lost now , due to the albion not paying anothe few quid rent to farmer who owns it.. I think its time to re think Barbers & Burkes position. ..UTA... graham w
  • Score: 63

5:15pm Fri 1 Aug 14

pte says...

Sami says his job is to get the best out of the players he has. By inference he's saying the club's job is to provide him with the players. How he does depends on the quality of the playing staff he is given

If the current squad is mid table quality and they finish mid table then he has done his job and can move on head held high. If they are mid table quality and get relegated then he hasn't done his job!

Sami does seem to be trying to manage expectations

The fans forum should be interesting if there are no major signings
Sami says his job is to get the best out of the players he has. By inference he's saying the club's job is to provide him with the players. How he does depends on the quality of the playing staff he is given If the current squad is mid table quality and they finish mid table then he has done his job and can move on head held high. If they are mid table quality and get relegated then he hasn't done his job! Sami does seem to be trying to manage expectations The fans forum should be interesting if there are no major signings pte
  • Score: 2

6:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
The idea being offered by some, 'Hyypia is not getting the backing from the board that he needs,' is just wild speculation based on nothing more than what the authors are conjuring up in their own minds.

Hyypia tells of needing some more quality players, well yeah I think we all know that, Hyypia has also told us that, 'all,' at the club are working hard to get the players needed, that doesn't sound like the board/suits, are not backing him. Not one word from Hyypia that might suggest that the club are trying to do things on the cheap, as some have suggested many times.

Hyypia wants something like four quality players, well just about every team in our division want the same. A quality player who might be available will have several suitors and his parent club will be in no rush to sell, why should they be, the more interest the higher the fee and the closer we get to the start of the season, or the closing of the window, the more likely suitors will be to pay over the odds to get their man.
Signing average players can be done in a heart beat, the signing of quality players could go all the way to the last day of the window, if only because the number of quality players available is small and the level of demand is high.

My guess is that we have targets to fill our needs, they have been identified and negotiations are proceeding, but the pace of those negotiations is being decided by the clubs that owns our targets, and that is what is the cause of the frustration being felt. The only way we can speed up those negotiations would be to offer what no other club will offer, in other words, pay over the odds, both in fees and wages, is that what we want to happen? Players will come but they have to come on terms that the club can live with.
Two players costig 2M each and getting 10K a week, wipes out 7M of Ulloa's 8M over a three year contract, we need at least four such players.
No Vegas ! You love the obvious ! Of course other clubs are looking to improve, but the majority have 90% of the squad in place! we have a need for 4-5 , imagine stockdale getting injured!
We do have our targets , just like other clubs, but they get there's we stumble along each day.. Last nights crowd should ring alarm bells at HQ
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The idea being offered by some, 'Hyypia is not getting the backing from the board that he needs,' is just wild speculation based on nothing more than what the authors are conjuring up in their own minds. Hyypia tells of needing some more quality players, well yeah I think we all know that, Hyypia has also told us that, 'all,' at the club are working hard to get the players needed, that doesn't sound like the board/suits, are not backing him. Not one word from Hyypia that might suggest that the club are trying to do things on the cheap, as some have suggested many times. Hyypia wants something like four quality players, well just about every team in our division want the same. A quality player who might be available will have several suitors and his parent club will be in no rush to sell, why should they be, the more interest the higher the fee and the closer we get to the start of the season, or the closing of the window, the more likely suitors will be to pay over the odds to get their man. Signing average players can be done in a heart beat, the signing of quality players could go all the way to the last day of the window, if only because the number of quality players available is small and the level of demand is high. My guess is that we have targets to fill our needs, they have been identified and negotiations are proceeding, but the pace of those negotiations is being decided by the clubs that owns our targets, and that is what is the cause of the frustration being felt. The only way we can speed up those negotiations would be to offer what no other club will offer, in other words, pay over the odds, both in fees and wages, is that what we want to happen? Players will come but they have to come on terms that the club can live with. Two players costig 2M each and getting 10K a week, wipes out 7M of Ulloa's 8M over a three year contract, we need at least four such players.[/p][/quote]No Vegas ! You love the obvious ! Of course other clubs are looking to improve, but the majority have 90% of the squad in place! we have a need for 4-5 , imagine stockdale getting injured! We do have our targets , just like other clubs, but they get there's we stumble along each day.. Last nights crowd should ring alarm bells at HQ mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

6:35pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

No proper squad, manager already sounding disillusioned and the burgers are substandard and overpriced.
No proper squad, manager already sounding disillusioned and the burgers are substandard and overpriced. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -1

7:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Its pretty obvious that its not only the manager who is expecting a poor season,little support for reaching the play offs which does reduce the pressure on the manager which will result we hope in a mid-table position.
Both Gus and Oscar became aware of the present financial position of the club and moved on and must be well satisfied with their decision.
Its pretty obvious that its not only the manager who is expecting a poor season,little support for reaching the play offs which does reduce the pressure on the manager which will result we hope in a mid-table position. Both Gus and Oscar became aware of the present financial position of the club and moved on and must be well satisfied with their decision. Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 1

8:28pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

If poyet moved on mainly for the reason that the club let him know of their fiscal policies for the future, that suggests that he wanted to spend more than the FFP would allow. If he had not gone, if we had spent at a level that, 'he,' found acceptable, punishments would have hit us later this year. Yes we may have got promoted, but we may not have. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the aim of FFP, or whether anyone thinks that the punishments will not occur, the risk is clear that they might well be. If people are not happy with our recruiting this year, just think what he would be like next year once FFP punishments have been handed down. The figures that will be published this year will relate to last year's losses, the first year where the FFP comes into full force.
If poyet moved on mainly for the reason that the club let him know of their fiscal policies for the future, that suggests that he wanted to spend more than the FFP would allow. If he had not gone, if we had spent at a level that, 'he,' found acceptable, punishments would have hit us later this year. Yes we may have got promoted, but we may not have. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the aim of FFP, or whether anyone thinks that the punishments will not occur, the risk is clear that they might well be. If people are not happy with our recruiting this year, just think what he would be like next year once FFP punishments have been handed down. The figures that will be published this year will relate to last year's losses, the first year where the FFP comes into full force. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

9:38pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
No proper squad, manager already sounding disillusioned and the burgers are substandard and overpriced.
How could you possibly know. Do your carers go? ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: No proper squad, manager already sounding disillusioned and the burgers are substandard and overpriced.[/p][/quote]How could you possibly know. Do your carers go? ;-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

9:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
The idea being offered by some, 'Hyypia is not getting the backing from the board that he needs,' is just wild speculation based on nothing more than what the authors are conjuring up in their own minds.

Hyypia tells of needing some more quality players, well yeah I think we all know that, Hyypia has also told us that, 'all,' at the club are working hard to get the players needed, that doesn't sound like the board/suits, are not backing him. Not one word from Hyypia that might suggest that the club are trying to do things on the cheap, as some have suggested many times.

Hyypia wants something like four quality players, well just about every team in our division want the same. A quality player who might be available will have several suitors and his parent club will be in no rush to sell, why should they be, the more interest the higher the fee and the closer we get to the start of the season, or the closing of the window, the more likely suitors will be to pay over the odds to get their man.
Signing average players can be done in a heart beat, the signing of quality players could go all the way to the last day of the window, if only because the number of quality players available is small and the level of demand is high.

My guess is that we have targets to fill our needs, they have been identified and negotiations are proceeding, but the pace of those negotiations is being decided by the clubs that owns our targets, and that is what is the cause of the frustration being felt. The only way we can speed up those negotiations would be to offer what no other club will offer, in other words, pay over the odds, both in fees and wages, is that what we want to happen? Players will come but they have to come on terms that the club can live with.
Two players costig 2M each and getting 10K a week, wipes out 7M of Ulloa's 8M over a three year contract, we need at least four such players.
No Vegas ! You love the obvious ! Of course other clubs are looking to improve, but the majority have 90% of the squad in place! we have a need for 4-5 , imagine stockdale getting injured!
We do have our targets , just like other clubs, but they get there's we stumble along each day.. Last nights crowd should ring alarm bells at HQ
Maybe, just maybe, you could imagine our team NOT getting injured? Just for a change? You must get bored expecting/wishing all these injuries.

BTW, if Stockdale gets injured we play Ankergren. The world will not fall in and, for a few games at least, he will not make a mistake worthy of criticism.

*puts on flame-retardant clothing for inevitable tirade* ;-)
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: The idea being offered by some, 'Hyypia is not getting the backing from the board that he needs,' is just wild speculation based on nothing more than what the authors are conjuring up in their own minds. Hyypia tells of needing some more quality players, well yeah I think we all know that, Hyypia has also told us that, 'all,' at the club are working hard to get the players needed, that doesn't sound like the board/suits, are not backing him. Not one word from Hyypia that might suggest that the club are trying to do things on the cheap, as some have suggested many times. Hyypia wants something like four quality players, well just about every team in our division want the same. A quality player who might be available will have several suitors and his parent club will be in no rush to sell, why should they be, the more interest the higher the fee and the closer we get to the start of the season, or the closing of the window, the more likely suitors will be to pay over the odds to get their man. Signing average players can be done in a heart beat, the signing of quality players could go all the way to the last day of the window, if only because the number of quality players available is small and the level of demand is high. My guess is that we have targets to fill our needs, they have been identified and negotiations are proceeding, but the pace of those negotiations is being decided by the clubs that owns our targets, and that is what is the cause of the frustration being felt. The only way we can speed up those negotiations would be to offer what no other club will offer, in other words, pay over the odds, both in fees and wages, is that what we want to happen? Players will come but they have to come on terms that the club can live with. Two players costig 2M each and getting 10K a week, wipes out 7M of Ulloa's 8M over a three year contract, we need at least four such players.[/p][/quote]No Vegas ! You love the obvious ! Of course other clubs are looking to improve, but the majority have 90% of the squad in place! we have a need for 4-5 , imagine stockdale getting injured! We do have our targets , just like other clubs, but they get there's we stumble along each day.. Last nights crowd should ring alarm bells at HQ[/p][/quote]Maybe, just maybe, you could imagine our team NOT getting injured? Just for a change? You must get bored expecting/wishing all these injuries. BTW, if Stockdale gets injured we play Ankergren. The world will not fall in and, for a few games at least, he will not make a mistake worthy of criticism. *puts on flame-retardant clothing for inevitable tirade* ;-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

10:21am Sat 2 Aug 14

2ndCitySeagull says...

Apologies if this turns out to be a false positive, but can anyone explain why the Sky Transfer Centre lists Jesse Lingard as an ageed loan to us from Man Utd, this summer?
Apologies if this turns out to be a false positive, but can anyone explain why the Sky Transfer Centre lists Jesse Lingard as an ageed loan to us from Man Utd, this summer? 2ndCitySeagull
  • Score: 0

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