Albion top transfer target Clayton plays in friendly for Terriers

Adam Clayton

Adam Clayton

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Albion fans have been advised not to read too much into a pre-season outing for one of their club’s top targets.

Huddersfield midfielder Adam Clayton played most of a friendly at Oldham on Saturday, hours after The Argus revealed he was expected to sign for the Seagulls in the build-up to the new Championship campaign.

Terriers boss Mark Robins did not comment on his player’s future after the 3-1 defeat at Boundary Park.

But former Albion and Huddersfield defender Kieran O’Regan, who now covers Town for local radio, is not surprised he turned out.

The Seagulls are thought to have beaten Middlesbrough to secure the in-demand playmaker, who has one year left on his contract.

O’Regan told The Argus: “Huddersfield have brought in Radi Majewski from Forest and he is a probably a similar player.

“Is that paving the way for Clayton to move?

“I suppose the manager looked at the situation on Saturday and thought ‘Until I’m told otherwise by the powers that be, I’ll play Adam Clayton’.

“He would probably be one of the main Huddersfield Town players.

“They play Newcastle (tomorrow) at the John Smith’s Stadium and it will be interesting to see whether Clayton plays again.”

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5:31am Mon 4 Aug 14

daughter-of-manag says...

"Albion fans have been advised not to read too much into a pre-season outing for one of their club’s top targets....."

Should read ..."Albion fans have been advised not to read too much into Argus' reports of three probable signings ....."

My bet is that Ward will be the only one of the three that actually sign.
"Albion fans have been advised not to read too much into a pre-season outing for one of their club’s top targets....." Should read ..."Albion fans have been advised not to read too much into Argus' reports of three probable signings ....." My bet is that Ward will be the only one of the three that actually sign. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 45

5:56am Mon 4 Aug 14

Alan Duffy says...

I bet you're wrong!
I bet you're wrong! Alan Duffy
  • Score: -3

5:57am Mon 4 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Monday morning so "LETS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE"
3 today and another tomorrow??
Monday morning so "LETS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE" 3 today and another tomorrow?? Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 5

6:18am Mon 4 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

💤💤💤💤
💤💤💤💤 Conelli98
  • Score: -2

6:29am Mon 4 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

There's bound to be some movement in the next 24 hours - the forum is tomorrow night!
Choreographed? Surely not...
There's bound to be some movement in the next 24 hours - the forum is tomorrow night! Choreographed? Surely not... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 11

6:30am Mon 4 Aug 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

So it's a no-news Monday then.
So it's a no-news Monday then. Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 5

6:33am Mon 4 Aug 14

Hugothepug says...

Just in time for the forum. Either late today or tomorrow morning.
Just in time for the forum. Either late today or tomorrow morning. Hugothepug
  • Score: 1

6:46am Mon 4 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Andy Naylor exclusive again
Andy Naylor exclusive again mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

6:48am Mon 4 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Andy Naylor exclusive again
Sorry Andy , Brian Owen beat you to this one!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Andy Naylor exclusive again[/p][/quote]Sorry Andy , Brian Owen beat you to this one! mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

7:11am Mon 4 Aug 14

brightonup says...

That's showbiz.!
Make 'em laugh,
make 'em cry,
but whatever you do...



make 'em wait!
That's showbiz.! Make 'em laugh, make 'em cry, but whatever you do... make 'em wait! brightonup
  • Score: 1

7:19am Mon 4 Aug 14

Albion fan in London says...

The club has changed so much that I can imagine it's next to impossible to get info from them regarding transfers until they are done and dusted. Not an easy situation for any journalist this said most rumours that our leaked seem to be via agents or other papers whose clubs aren't as tight. Thankless task either way keeping us all happy. I will personally be surprised if we land all three of the suggested targets. What a frustrating summer
The club has changed so much that I can imagine it's next to impossible to get info from them regarding transfers until they are done and dusted. Not an easy situation for any journalist this said most rumours that our leaked seem to be via agents or other papers whose clubs aren't as tight. Thankless task either way keeping us all happy. I will personally be surprised if we land all three of the suggested targets. What a frustrating summer Albion fan in London
  • Score: 4

7:24am Mon 4 Aug 14

mark5 says...

This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it!
This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it! mark5
  • Score: 0

7:34am Mon 4 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -21

7:35am Mon 4 Aug 14

Baldseagull says...

I believe Ward deal will be announced today or tomorrow.
I believe Ward deal will be announced today or tomorrow. Baldseagull
  • Score: 3

7:41am Mon 4 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
The club has changed so much that I can imagine it's next to impossible to get info from them regarding transfers until they are done and dusted. Not an easy situation for any journalist this said most rumours that our leaked seem to be via agents or other papers whose clubs aren't as tight. Thankless task either way keeping us all happy. I will personally be surprised if we land all three of the suggested targets. What a frustrating summer
My bet (guess) would be that the story was quietly offered to The Argus, possibly by the club, in preparation for a grand unveiling at the start of this week. The Argus printed it because they're fairly certain (been told) it's all systems go. (Just a hunch for discussion)
The timing of multiple signings would smooth the path before tomorrow's forum and those on the panel will be desperate to sit down on the back of some good news which will spike a few guns in the audience!
Of course, any additions won't be solely for the purpose of saving executive skin, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's all part of a neatly timed and gentle strategy to manage the events of the next few days...
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: The club has changed so much that I can imagine it's next to impossible to get info from them regarding transfers until they are done and dusted. Not an easy situation for any journalist this said most rumours that our leaked seem to be via agents or other papers whose clubs aren't as tight. Thankless task either way keeping us all happy. I will personally be surprised if we land all three of the suggested targets. What a frustrating summer[/p][/quote]My bet (guess) would be that the story was quietly offered to The Argus, possibly by the club, in preparation for a grand unveiling at the start of this week. The Argus printed it because they're fairly certain (been told) it's all systems go. (Just a hunch for discussion) The timing of multiple signings would smooth the path before tomorrow's forum and those on the panel will be desperate to sit down on the back of some good news which will spike a few guns in the audience! Of course, any additions won't be solely for the purpose of saving executive skin, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's all part of a neatly timed and gentle strategy to manage the events of the next few days... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

7:42am Mon 4 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Nothing is guaranteed until they sign---IF
Nothing is guaranteed until they sign---IF mikeygit
  • Score: 2

7:43am Mon 4 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 22

7:51am Mon 4 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning, Off course we are going to bring players in the next few days, some people need to show more patience, The board will deliver new players for Hyppia, then you can look forward to the new season,
Up the Albion!!
Morning, Off course we are going to bring players in the next few days, some people need to show more patience, The board will deliver new players for Hyppia, then you can look forward to the new season, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 5

7:51am Mon 4 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -13

8:05am Mon 4 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Ha! Never happy.
One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted.
Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category.
Never happy.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Ha! Never happy. One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted. Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category. Never happy. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 19

8:10am Mon 4 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Another no news day, not even conjecture!!
Another no news day, not even conjecture!! Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 0

8:16am Mon 4 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread..
Mine would be.
In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager?
I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team.
Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA
I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread.. Mine would be. In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager? I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team. Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: -3

8:19am Mon 4 Aug 14

Havok82 says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Mayfield do you have nothing better to do than antagonise the Brighton faithful? Sometimes I like how funny your posts are but right now you bore me. I admit you are clever being able to argue with anyone over anything but how about, just once not commenting on an Albion story. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Mayfield do you have nothing better to do than antagonise the Brighton faithful? Sometimes I like how funny your posts are but right now you bore me. I admit you are clever being able to argue with anyone over anything but how about, just once not commenting on an Albion story. UTA Havok82
  • Score: 5

8:28am Mon 4 Aug 14

albionfan33 says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread..
Mine would be.
In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager?
I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team.
Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA
A very good question hehe no doubt that World make there bums twitch in the seats
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread.. Mine would be. In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager? I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team. Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA[/p][/quote]A very good question hehe no doubt that World make there bums twitch in the seats albionfan33
  • Score: 2

8:32am Mon 4 Aug 14

albionfan33 says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
The club has changed so much that I can imagine it's next to impossible to get info from them regarding transfers until they are done and dusted. Not an easy situation for any journalist this said most rumours that our leaked seem to be via agents or other papers whose clubs aren't as tight. Thankless task either way keeping us all happy. I will personally be surprised if we land all three of the suggested targets. What a frustrating summer
He is without doubt one oft the best mids in our div equally adept in Front oft the back4 or behind the striker very good passer string in the tackle and scores a few too
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: The club has changed so much that I can imagine it's next to impossible to get info from them regarding transfers until they are done and dusted. Not an easy situation for any journalist this said most rumours that our leaked seem to be via agents or other papers whose clubs aren't as tight. Thankless task either way keeping us all happy. I will personally be surprised if we land all three of the suggested targets. What a frustrating summer[/p][/quote]He is without doubt one oft the best mids in our div equally adept in Front oft the back4 or behind the striker very good passer string in the tackle and scores a few too albionfan33
  • Score: 2

8:35am Mon 4 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread..
Mine would be.
In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager?
I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team.
Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA
A good thought to develop JG, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of your question!
For me, hindsight discussions on Gus would get us nowhere. What's done is done and whether we'd be in the PL now, can only be conjecture anyway. For me, we should focus on now and the future.
So one of mine (there'd be so many!) would be to ask whether the club is confident that those who fall foul of FFP will actually get a fitting punishment? My reasoning is simply; is our adherence going to be worth it in terms of it ultimately benefitting us in competition?
There's no doubt it's an obvious and sensible business objective in it's own right, but in playing terms, are we being taken for mugs and is FFP ultimately workable?
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread.. Mine would be. In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager? I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team. Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA[/p][/quote]A good thought to develop JG, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of your question! For me, hindsight discussions on Gus would get us nowhere. What's done is done and whether we'd be in the PL now, can only be conjecture anyway. For me, we should focus on now and the future. So one of mine (there'd be so many!) would be to ask whether the club is confident that those who fall foul of FFP will actually get a fitting punishment? My reasoning is simply; is our adherence going to be worth it in terms of it ultimately benefitting us in competition? There's no doubt it's an obvious and sensible business objective in it's own right, but in playing terms, are we being taken for mugs and is FFP ultimately workable? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 18

8:37am Mon 4 Aug 14

brightonup says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Ha! Never happy.
One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted.
Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category.
Never happy.
HE IS A WUM!!!!!

HE LIKES NEGATIVE RESPONSES!!!

PLEASE SPARE US THE TEDIUM!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Ha! Never happy. One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted. Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category. Never happy.[/p][/quote]HE IS A WUM!!!!! HE LIKES NEGATIVE RESPONSES!!! PLEASE SPARE US THE TEDIUM!!!!!! brightonup
  • Score: -2

8:38am Mon 4 Aug 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Ha! Never happy.
One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted.
Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category.
Never happy.
He's just a WUM. Nothing more, nothing less.

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Ha! Never happy. One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted. Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category. Never happy.[/p][/quote]He's just a WUM. Nothing more, nothing less. UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: -1

8:44am Mon 4 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

brightonup wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Ha! Never happy.
One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted.
Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category.
Never happy.
HE IS A WUM!!!!!

HE LIKES NEGATIVE RESPONSES!!!

PLEASE SPARE US THE TEDIUM!!!!!!
Sorry, you are, of course, right. As is SSI.
I just woke up in an irritable mood and he/she preyed on it.
Case closed.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Ha! Never happy. One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted. Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category. Never happy.[/p][/quote]HE IS A WUM!!!!! HE LIKES NEGATIVE RESPONSES!!! PLEASE SPARE US THE TEDIUM!!!!!![/p][/quote]Sorry, you are, of course, right. As is SSI. I just woke up in an irritable mood and he/she preyed on it. Case closed. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -1

8:48am Mon 4 Aug 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Meanwhile, back on thread. I don't really see the fact that Clayton is playing friendlies as a problem (assuming he doesn't get crocked). Nice of Huddersfield to get him match fit for us... assuming he IS Amex-bound!!

UTA!!
Meanwhile, back on thread. I don't really see the fact that Clayton is playing friendlies as a problem (assuming he doesn't get crocked). Nice of Huddersfield to get him match fit for us... assuming he IS Amex-bound!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 4

8:58am Mon 4 Aug 14

Havok82 says...

Havok82 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Mayfield do you have nothing better to do than antagonise the Brighton faithful? Sometimes I like how funny your posts are but right now you bore me. I admit you are clever being able to argue with anyone over anything but how about, just once not commenting on an Albion story. UTA
I get 3 thumbs down for saying that? Really? OK there are other forums for me.
[quote][p][bold]Havok82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Mayfield do you have nothing better to do than antagonise the Brighton faithful? Sometimes I like how funny your posts are but right now you bore me. I admit you are clever being able to argue with anyone over anything but how about, just once not commenting on an Albion story. UTA[/p][/quote]I get 3 thumbs down for saying that? Really? OK there are other forums for me. Havok82
  • Score: 12

9:01am Mon 4 Aug 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Havok82 wrote:
Havok82 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Mayfield do you have nothing better to do than antagonise the Brighton faithful? Sometimes I like how funny your posts are but right now you bore me. I admit you are clever being able to argue with anyone over anything but how about, just once not commenting on an Albion story. UTA
I get 3 thumbs down for saying that? Really? OK there are other forums for me.
I think it may have been something to do with you saying that Mayfield is clever for arguing with everyone. It's not clever, it's just being contrary.
[quote][p][bold]Havok82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Havok82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Mayfield do you have nothing better to do than antagonise the Brighton faithful? Sometimes I like how funny your posts are but right now you bore me. I admit you are clever being able to argue with anyone over anything but how about, just once not commenting on an Albion story. UTA[/p][/quote]I get 3 thumbs down for saying that? Really? OK there are other forums for me.[/p][/quote]I think it may have been something to do with you saying that Mayfield is clever for arguing with everyone. It's not clever, it's just being contrary. Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 5

9:15am Mon 4 Aug 14

pte says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
If you think he's OK and not complete rubbish I'll take that as reluctant praise.

I understand your need to be catapulted to the next level
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]If you think he's OK and not complete rubbish I'll take that as reluctant praise. I understand your need to be catapulted to the next level pte
  • Score: -1

9:18am Mon 4 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Ha! Never happy.
One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted.
Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category.
Never happy.
We should never be happy to be fobbed off with what the board tell us. It is our responsibility to question everything and insist that we have the best team we can possibly have. The time has come to demand more.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Ha! Never happy. One minute you're suggesting Middlesbrough are also-rans, the next that a team like Brentford, who've signed a series of lower league players or players past their peak, are a club to be feted. Had we signed any of the players on Brentford's summer list, you'd've been bleating that we showed no ambition. At least Clayton, from what I've read, is rated as one of the best midfielders in the Championship. I'm not sure Darius Henderson demands such status in the striker category. Never happy.[/p][/quote]We should never be happy to be fobbed off with what the board tell us. It is our responsibility to question everything and insist that we have the best team we can possibly have. The time has come to demand more. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: 5

9:22am Mon 4 Aug 14

uta smithy says...

I don't think sh is going to make waves this seaon.. og got us results playing boring passes.. I'm just hoping sh can bring some attractive football but I don't think we will b top half team this season lost good players not really replaced with the same quality. ..
I don't think sh is going to make waves this seaon.. og got us results playing boring passes.. I'm just hoping sh can bring some attractive football but I don't think we will b top half team this season lost good players not really replaced with the same quality. .. uta smithy
  • Score: -1

9:23am Mon 4 Aug 14

pte says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread..
Mine would be.
In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager?
I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team.
Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA
Easy to say here but would anyone have the balls to ask a difficult question.

Probably the most difficult question will be "Mr Bloom are the burgers halal, can you change the mustard supplier but please don't take that as criticism, the stadium looks wonderful"
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread.. Mine would be. In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager? I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team. Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA[/p][/quote]Easy to say here but would anyone have the balls to ask a difficult question. Probably the most difficult question will be "Mr Bloom are the burgers halal, can you change the mustard supplier but please don't take that as criticism, the stadium looks wonderful" pte
  • Score: 2

9:30am Mon 4 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me,

Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!!
Up the Albion!!
Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me, Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 1

9:35am Mon 4 Aug 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Keep believing! UTA!!
Keep believing! UTA!! Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 2

10:10am Mon 4 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

mark5 wrote:
This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it!
Think of Horton and Grealish and you get the idea!
[quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it![/p][/quote]Think of Horton and Grealish and you get the idea! Conelli98
  • Score: 3

10:17am Mon 4 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread..
Mine would be.
In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager?
I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team.
Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA
My question will be is why is our scouting system at youth level so archaic and why have we not tried harder to keep young talent at the club, especially as we are now cat 1 status,rather than let them go to other clubs. One club one ambition????
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread.. Mine would be. In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager? I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team. Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA[/p][/quote]My question will be is why is our scouting system at youth level so archaic and why have we not tried harder to keep young talent at the club, especially as we are now cat 1 status,rather than let them go to other clubs. One club one ambition???? Conelli98
  • Score: 0

10:29am Mon 4 Aug 14

pjwilk says...

Let us know when we actually sign somebody.
Let us know when we actually sign somebody. pjwilk
  • Score: 0

10:43am Mon 4 Aug 14

brightonup says...

uta smithy wrote:
I don't think sh is going to make waves this seaon.. og got us results playing boring passes.. I'm just hoping sh can bring some attractive football but I don't think we will b top half team this season lost good players not really replaced with the same quality. ..
Speculation costs nothing and is probably worth it....
[quote][p][bold]uta smithy[/bold] wrote: I don't think sh is going to make waves this seaon.. og got us results playing boring passes.. I'm just hoping sh can bring some attractive football but I don't think we will b top half team this season lost good players not really replaced with the same quality. ..[/p][/quote]Speculation costs nothing and is probably worth it.... brightonup
  • Score: -1

10:49am Mon 4 Aug 14

mrgull says...

quality not quantity ....please don't unveil 3-4 average players I would sooner have 1 or 2 quality players...That WOULD show commitment
quality not quantity ....please don't unveil 3-4 average players I would sooner have 1 or 2 quality players...That WOULD show commitment mrgull
  • Score: 1

11:21am Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

mark5 wrote:
This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it!
Mark, he's a versatile midfielder who's best in attacking scenarios. Gets lots of good shots off from range (nearly all his 7 goals last season came this way if I remember rightly), has an excellent range of passing including creative forward balls and is also a set piece specialist. He's a seriously good player at Championship level with future PL potential. Is coming towards his peak years at age 25.

He's my first preference of all feasible targets this summer.
[quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it![/p][/quote]Mark, he's a versatile midfielder who's best in attacking scenarios. Gets lots of good shots off from range (nearly all his 7 goals last season came this way if I remember rightly), has an excellent range of passing including creative forward balls and is also a set piece specialist. He's a seriously good player at Championship level with future PL potential. Is coming towards his peak years at age 25. He's my first preference of all feasible targets this summer. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 4

11:26am Mon 4 Aug 14

SuperSeagull92 says...

the manner in which the Argus has reported this transfer window has been shoddy at best. The stories that have been produced have either been fan-appeasing (linking us with players, many of which come to nothing) or completely redundant! the standard of journalism has been poor and many of the stories sound like they are given a stamp of approval by the club before publishing. Although frustrating at times, i understand the 'behind closed doors' approach by the club in recent months (or indeed years), but why is this lack of information being sustained by the Argus?
the manner in which the Argus has reported this transfer window has been shoddy at best. The stories that have been produced have either been fan-appeasing (linking us with players, many of which come to nothing) or completely redundant! the standard of journalism has been poor and many of the stories sound like they are given a stamp of approval by the club before publishing. Although frustrating at times, i understand the 'behind closed doors' approach by the club in recent months (or indeed years), but why is this lack of information being sustained by the Argus? SuperSeagull92
  • Score: 5

11:26am Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
Another no news day, not even conjecture!!
You're keeping up your 100% record admirably!
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: Another no news day, not even conjecture!![/p][/quote]You're keeping up your 100% record admirably! Captain Haddock
  • Score: -3

11:30am Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

Havok82 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.
To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?
It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.
Mayfield do you have nothing better to do than antagonise the Brighton faithful? Sometimes I like how funny your posts are but right now you bore me. I admit you are clever being able to argue with anyone over anything but how about, just once not commenting on an Albion story. UTA
Just the once? I'd like him to get lost in the virtual corridor and drop through the comedy trap door!
[quote][p][bold]Havok82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: An ok championship player, but nothing more than that. Disappointing because we aren't being linked with the sort of players to catapult us to the next level. The players we should be signing have long since been snapped up, now all we've got are the mid table players which the likes of us and Middlesbrough are left to squabble over. The fact that Forest, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Brentford aren't interested in Clayton speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]To my knowledge, WBA, Aston Villa or Newcastle weren't interested in Ulloa. Does that make him a bad player?[/p][/quote]It does actually, if Ulloa was such a good player then there would have been many established premier clubs after him. Instead it was just Leicester and perhaps a little naive having only just got promotion. We did well to get 8 million, but now that money needs spending on far better players than Clayton.[/p][/quote]Mayfield do you have nothing better to do than antagonise the Brighton faithful? Sometimes I like how funny your posts are but right now you bore me. I admit you are clever being able to argue with anyone over anything but how about, just once not commenting on an Albion story. UTA[/p][/quote]Just the once? I'd like him to get lost in the virtual corridor and drop through the comedy trap door! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

11:32am Mon 4 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
mark5 wrote:
This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it!
Mark, he's a versatile midfielder who's best in attacking scenarios. Gets lots of good shots off from range (nearly all his 7 goals last season came this way if I remember rightly), has an excellent range of passing including creative forward balls and is also a set piece specialist. He's a seriously good player at Championship level with future PL potential. Is coming towards his peak years at age 25.

He's my first preference of all feasible targets this summer.
Excellent summing up of a very good footballer Capt. Spot on
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it![/p][/quote]Mark, he's a versatile midfielder who's best in attacking scenarios. Gets lots of good shots off from range (nearly all his 7 goals last season came this way if I remember rightly), has an excellent range of passing including creative forward balls and is also a set piece specialist. He's a seriously good player at Championship level with future PL potential. Is coming towards his peak years at age 25. He's my first preference of all feasible targets this summer.[/p][/quote]Excellent summing up of a very good footballer Capt. Spot on dave from bexill
  • Score: 4

11:33am Mon 4 Aug 14

RussinArmy says...

According to Wiki Adam Clayton is an Albion player - Hooray
According to Wiki Adam Clayton is an Albion player - Hooray RussinArmy
  • Score: -2

11:37am Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread..
Mine would be.
In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager?
I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team.
Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA
A good thought to develop JG, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of your question!
For me, hindsight discussions on Gus would get us nowhere. What's done is done and whether we'd be in the PL now, can only be conjecture anyway. For me, we should focus on now and the future.
So one of mine (there'd be so many!) would be to ask whether the club is confident that those who fall foul of FFP will actually get a fitting punishment? My reasoning is simply; is our adherence going to be worth it in terms of it ultimately benefitting us in competition?
There's no doubt it's an obvious and sensible business objective in it's own right, but in playing terms, are we being taken for mugs and is FFP ultimately workable?
I agree with you Staffs. Joel'sGrandad is always a decent poster but I too think it would be an unnecessarily uncomfortable question to ask, especially as it would be in the presence of our new man Sami, who wouldn't appreciate a comparison with a former favourite. Neither would I if I was him!

I'm sure your suggested choice about FFP will be asked and is a pertinent question indeed.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread.. Mine would be. In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager? I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team. Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA[/p][/quote]A good thought to develop JG, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of your question! For me, hindsight discussions on Gus would get us nowhere. What's done is done and whether we'd be in the PL now, can only be conjecture anyway. For me, we should focus on now and the future. So one of mine (there'd be so many!) would be to ask whether the club is confident that those who fall foul of FFP will actually get a fitting punishment? My reasoning is simply; is our adherence going to be worth it in terms of it ultimately benefitting us in competition? There's no doubt it's an obvious and sensible business objective in it's own right, but in playing terms, are we being taken for mugs and is FFP ultimately workable?[/p][/quote]I agree with you Staffs. Joel'sGrandad is always a decent poster but I too think it would be an unnecessarily uncomfortable question to ask, especially as it would be in the presence of our new man Sami, who wouldn't appreciate a comparison with a former favourite. Neither would I if I was him! I'm sure your suggested choice about FFP will be asked and is a pertinent question indeed. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

11:44am Mon 4 Aug 14

SuperSeagull92 says...

http://www.examiner.
co.uk/sport/football
/news/adam-clayton-b
righton-far-done-755
8338

'Adam Clayton to Brighton is 'far from a done deal' say sources'

this seems to disagree with the trio expected to sign story
http://www.examiner. co.uk/sport/football /news/adam-clayton-b righton-far-done-755 8338 'Adam Clayton to Brighton is 'far from a done deal' say sources' this seems to disagree with the trio expected to sign story SuperSeagull92
  • Score: 10

12:15pm Mon 4 Aug 14

cullipmyhero says...

How about the most likely scenario of 'nobody new in before Sheffield Weds on Saturday'??
Gotta be good odds surely?!
How about the most likely scenario of 'nobody new in before Sheffield Weds on Saturday'?? Gotta be good odds surely?! cullipmyhero
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

My, two part, question to the panel would be........

Would it be right to say that the club set aside money for transfers this season, with or without the sale of Ulloa? Now Leo has gone, has our transfer budget been increased?

I would ask my questions just to get some clarification as to how all, or part, or the 8M is going to be spent, now and possibly in the January window.
My, two part, question to the panel would be........ Would it be right to say that the club set aside money for transfers this season, with or without the sale of Ulloa? Now Leo has gone, has our transfer budget been increased? I would ask my questions just to get some clarification as to how all, or part, or the 8M is going to be spent, now and possibly in the January window. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

12:38pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Other than the risk of inury, there is nothing to be lost, from Brighton's point of view, having Clayton play in friendly matches. The sharper a player is when he joins us the better, and you get sharper with every minute played, Stockdale would confirm that.
Other than the risk of inury, there is nothing to be lost, from Brighton's point of view, having Clayton play in friendly matches. The sharper a player is when he joins us the better, and you get sharper with every minute played, Stockdale would confirm that. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

12:40pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Dingbat99 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me,

Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!!
Up the Albion!!
I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games.
Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets.

I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me, Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games. Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets. I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out. Dingbat99
  • Score: 10

1:26pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

We got some very welcomed rain here last night.
We got some very welcomed rain here last night. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

1:45pm Mon 4 Aug 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

RussinArmy wrote:
According to Wiki Adam Clayton is an Albion player - Hooray
Wiki is not Gospel! Sometimes they do "jump the gun " - whoever posts details on their site.Also they say he signed last month.
[quote][p][bold]RussinArmy[/bold] wrote: According to Wiki Adam Clayton is an Albion player - Hooray[/p][/quote]Wiki is not Gospel! Sometimes they do "jump the gun " - whoever posts details on their site.Also they say he signed last month. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 1

1:59pm Mon 4 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Monday morning so "LETS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE"
3 today and another tomorrow??
I agree Rhodes Seagull that we should look on the bright side but think it will take a little longer to get players in.
We might possibly get one signed today but think any others might take another 2 or 3 days.
There seem to be rather more rumours flying around regarding who we might sign than usual which seems to indicate a fair amount of activity but knowing how quietly the club normally conducts business I doubt that many of these rumours will actually come to fruition with the exception of the 3 targets mentioned in the Argus on Saturday. Even those are possibly no more than 50/50.
Interesting to read Barber's comments in the Southampton match programme where he confirms that SH agreed a list of targets to be signed if possible with TB and that the club is trying its best to acquire the players SH wants. Burke and his team apparently produce the background info on potential acquisitions for the positions that the club and SH want to strengthen. Really reassuring to hear that BHA are pursuing the players SH has said he would like signed.
I am looking forward to Saturday's game and to seeing a few new faces joining the Albion. Also looking forward to hearing/reading what TB, PB and SH have to say at tomorrow's fans Forum.
Onwards and Upwards.
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Monday morning so "LETS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE" 3 today and another tomorrow??[/p][/quote]I agree Rhodes Seagull that we should look on the bright side but think it will take a little longer to get players in. We might possibly get one signed today but think any others might take another 2 or 3 days. There seem to be rather more rumours flying around regarding who we might sign than usual which seems to indicate a fair amount of activity but knowing how quietly the club normally conducts business I doubt that many of these rumours will actually come to fruition with the exception of the 3 targets mentioned in the Argus on Saturday. Even those are possibly no more than 50/50. Interesting to read Barber's comments in the Southampton match programme where he confirms that SH agreed a list of targets to be signed if possible with TB and that the club is trying its best to acquire the players SH wants. Burke and his team apparently produce the background info on potential acquisitions for the positions that the club and SH want to strengthen. Really reassuring to hear that BHA are pursuing the players SH has said he would like signed. I am looking forward to Saturday's game and to seeing a few new faces joining the Albion. Also looking forward to hearing/reading what TB, PB and SH have to say at tomorrow's fans Forum. Onwards and Upwards. ballantrrae
  • Score: 5

2:04pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

We have just about talked it all to death haven't we, nothing to do now but wait.
We have just about talked it all to death haven't we, nothing to do now but wait. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
mark5 wrote:
This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it!
Mark, he's a versatile midfielder who's best in attacking scenarios. Gets lots of good shots off from range (nearly all his 7 goals last season came this way if I remember rightly), has an excellent range of passing including creative forward balls and is also a set piece specialist. He's a seriously good player at Championship level with future PL potential. Is coming towards his peak years at age 25.

He's my first preference of all feasible targets this summer.
Excellent summing up of a very good footballer Capt. Spot on
Thanks, chap.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: This seems to be the proverbial "done deal", too much open dialogue for it to be anything else! I know very little about this lad. Is he good and how would he fit into our midfield with the options we already have? If anyone can give me an insight, I would appreciate it![/p][/quote]Mark, he's a versatile midfielder who's best in attacking scenarios. Gets lots of good shots off from range (nearly all his 7 goals last season came this way if I remember rightly), has an excellent range of passing including creative forward balls and is also a set piece specialist. He's a seriously good player at Championship level with future PL potential. Is coming towards his peak years at age 25. He's my first preference of all feasible targets this summer.[/p][/quote]Excellent summing up of a very good footballer Capt. Spot on[/p][/quote]Thanks, chap. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

2:17pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Dingbat99 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me,

Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!!
Up the Albion!!
I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games.
Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets.

I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.
And that is the big problem in today’s game!
Money rules not the supporters.
Like any other business now, not just the Albion all clubs care more about money than Supporters/Fans, without income from other sources clubs could not survive in today’s money orientated world.
Discrimination used to be a thing of the past but now clubs will discriminate between those that can afford season tickets and those like Dingbat99 who maybe can afford the ticket but are unable to get to home games to make it a viable proposition for him.
What makes even more un-fair (best way to put it) is that many season ticket holders don’t attend all the games.
If someone can be bothered to go to the (for some) away games at considerable expense then the club should recognize there loyalty to the club.
I have stated before that without supporters/fans the club/s would not exist so have to agree with Dingbat99 a system that is fair to all on attendance rather than “I have season ticket and may go to the game” should be the way to go.
[quote][p][bold]Dingbat99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me, Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games. Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets. I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.[/p][/quote]And that is the big problem in today’s game! Money rules not the supporters. Like any other business now, not just the Albion all clubs care more about money than Supporters/Fans, without income from other sources clubs could not survive in today’s money orientated world. Discrimination used to be a thing of the past but now clubs will discriminate between those that can afford season tickets and those like Dingbat99 who maybe can afford the ticket but are unable to get to home games to make it a viable proposition for him. What makes even more un-fair (best way to put it) is that many season ticket holders don’t attend all the games. If someone can be bothered to go to the (for some) away games at considerable expense then the club should recognize there loyalty to the club. I have stated before that without supporters/fans the club/s would not exist so have to agree with Dingbat99 a system that is fair to all on attendance rather than “I have season ticket and may go to the game” should be the way to go. Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 2

2:40pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Rhodes when a person buys a season ticket they are not only buying seat, they are also buying the right to use that seat how they wish or may be forced in to.
What if a guy has to work one saturday in four, he is on a rota system at work, he has no choice, but as a fan he wants the assurance of having his seat and the perks that go with being a season ticket holder.
Rhodes when a person buys a season ticket they are not only buying seat, they are also buying the right to use that seat how they wish or may be forced in to. What if a guy has to work one saturday in four, he is on a rota system at work, he has no choice, but as a fan he wants the assurance of having his seat and the perks that go with being a season ticket holder. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

2:45pm Mon 4 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Dingbat99 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me,

Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!!
Up the Albion!!
I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games.
Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets.

I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.
And that is the big problem in today’s game!
Money rules not the supporters.
Like any other business now, not just the Albion all clubs care more about money than Supporters/Fans, without income from other sources clubs could not survive in today’s money orientated world.
Discrimination used to be a thing of the past but now clubs will discriminate between those that can afford season tickets and those like Dingbat99 who maybe can afford the ticket but are unable to get to home games to make it a viable proposition for him.
What makes even more un-fair (best way to put it) is that many season ticket holders don’t attend all the games.
If someone can be bothered to go to the (for some) away games at considerable expense then the club should recognize there loyalty to the club.
I have stated before that without supporters/fans the club/s would not exist so have to agree with Dingbat99 a system that is fair to all on attendance rather than “I have season ticket and may go to the game” should be the way to go.
I think I'm missing the point here. What system do you propose and how would it work exactly Rhodes Seagull?
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dingbat99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me, Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games. Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets. I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.[/p][/quote]And that is the big problem in today’s game! Money rules not the supporters. Like any other business now, not just the Albion all clubs care more about money than Supporters/Fans, without income from other sources clubs could not survive in today’s money orientated world. Discrimination used to be a thing of the past but now clubs will discriminate between those that can afford season tickets and those like Dingbat99 who maybe can afford the ticket but are unable to get to home games to make it a viable proposition for him. What makes even more un-fair (best way to put it) is that many season ticket holders don’t attend all the games. If someone can be bothered to go to the (for some) away games at considerable expense then the club should recognize there loyalty to the club. I have stated before that without supporters/fans the club/s would not exist so have to agree with Dingbat99 a system that is fair to all on attendance rather than “I have season ticket and may go to the game” should be the way to go.[/p][/quote]I think I'm missing the point here. What system do you propose and how would it work exactly Rhodes Seagull? dave from bexill
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Mon 4 Aug 14

heshootshescores says...

Keep reading about all these exciting transfer targets we're "allegedly" after on NSC. Then I come on here hoping to read about a deal or two actually happening...and nothing.

Here we are, five days away from the big kick off, and we're talking about what might happen, what could happen...rather than anything factual. How long has this talk about Clayton joining us been going on? Are the two clubs haggling over a fee or this all speculation?

We should be excited about the return of football; how the team is shaping up under Sami and how our exciting new signings are bedding in.

I know the game has changed and that a lot of transfer business is done much closer to the start of the season, but with the number of holes we have right now, this is nothing short of ridiculous.
Keep reading about all these exciting transfer targets we're "allegedly" after on NSC. Then I come on here hoping to read about a deal or two actually happening...and nothing. Here we are, five days away from the big kick off, and we're talking about what might happen, what could happen...rather than anything factual. How long has this talk about Clayton joining us been going on? Are the two clubs haggling over a fee or this all speculation? We should be excited about the return of football; how the team is shaping up under Sami and how our exciting new signings are bedding in. I know the game has changed and that a lot of transfer business is done much closer to the start of the season, but with the number of holes we have right now, this is nothing short of ridiculous. heshootshescores
  • Score: 7

3:26pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Dingbat99 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me,

Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!!
Up the Albion!!
I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games.
Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets.

I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.
And that is the big problem in today’s game!
Money rules not the supporters.
Like any other business now, not just the Albion all clubs care more about money than Supporters/Fans, without income from other sources clubs could not survive in today’s money orientated world.
Discrimination used to be a thing of the past but now clubs will discriminate between those that can afford season tickets and those like Dingbat99 who maybe can afford the ticket but are unable to get to home games to make it a viable proposition for him.
What makes even more un-fair (best way to put it) is that many season ticket holders don’t attend all the games.
If someone can be bothered to go to the (for some) away games at considerable expense then the club should recognize there loyalty to the club.
I have stated before that without supporters/fans the club/s would not exist so have to agree with Dingbat99 a system that is fair to all on attendance rather than “I have season ticket and may go to the game” should be the way to go.
I think I'm missing the point here. What system do you propose and how would it work exactly Rhodes Seagull?
All I am saying is if a supporter can travel to what ever club we are playing away at then that loyalty should be rewarded. If the club can give 1200 points for a season ticket then they should also be prepared to pay in points for that loyal supporter who is willing to put in that extra effort to go to an away game not just because someone is putting money via a season ticket. As I stated I understand that the club needs revenue but more important it needs supporters.
I am only giving an opinion here as can be seen I do now live in Rhodes and to attend even a couple of home games would cost as much as a season ticket, although I have been once.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dingbat99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me, Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games. Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets. I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.[/p][/quote]And that is the big problem in today’s game! Money rules not the supporters. Like any other business now, not just the Albion all clubs care more about money than Supporters/Fans, without income from other sources clubs could not survive in today’s money orientated world. Discrimination used to be a thing of the past but now clubs will discriminate between those that can afford season tickets and those like Dingbat99 who maybe can afford the ticket but are unable to get to home games to make it a viable proposition for him. What makes even more un-fair (best way to put it) is that many season ticket holders don’t attend all the games. If someone can be bothered to go to the (for some) away games at considerable expense then the club should recognize there loyalty to the club. I have stated before that without supporters/fans the club/s would not exist so have to agree with Dingbat99 a system that is fair to all on attendance rather than “I have season ticket and may go to the game” should be the way to go.[/p][/quote]I think I'm missing the point here. What system do you propose and how would it work exactly Rhodes Seagull?[/p][/quote]All I am saying is if a supporter can travel to what ever club we are playing away at then that loyalty should be rewarded. If the club can give 1200 points for a season ticket then they should also be prepared to pay in points for that loyal supporter who is willing to put in that extra effort to go to an away game not just because someone is putting money via a season ticket. As I stated I understand that the club needs revenue but more important it needs supporters. I am only giving an opinion here as can be seen I do now live in Rhodes and to attend even a couple of home games would cost as much as a season ticket, although I have been once. Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

raining again, whoopeee
raining again, whoopeee VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

3:43pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Chi Gull says...

RussinArmy wrote:
According to Wiki Adam Clayton is an Albion player - Hooray
So was Jordan Rhodes 2 years ago ... !!!
[quote][p][bold]RussinArmy[/bold] wrote: According to Wiki Adam Clayton is an Albion player - Hooray[/p][/quote]So was Jordan Rhodes 2 years ago ... !!! Chi Gull
  • Score: 1

3:43pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Dingbat99 wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me,

Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!!
Up the Albion!!
I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games.
Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets.

I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.
And that is the big problem in today’s game!
Money rules not the supporters.
Like any other business now, not just the Albion all clubs care more about money than Supporters/Fans, without income from other sources clubs could not survive in today’s money orientated world.
Discrimination used to be a thing of the past but now clubs will discriminate between those that can afford season tickets and those like Dingbat99 who maybe can afford the ticket but are unable to get to home games to make it a viable proposition for him.
What makes even more un-fair (best way to put it) is that many season ticket holders don’t attend all the games.
If someone can be bothered to go to the (for some) away games at considerable expense then the club should recognize there loyalty to the club.
I have stated before that without supporters/fans the club/s would not exist so have to agree with Dingbat99 a system that is fair to all on attendance rather than “I have season ticket and may go to the game” should be the way to go.
I think I'm missing the point here. What system do you propose and how would it work exactly Rhodes Seagull?
All I am saying is if a supporter can travel to what ever club we are playing away at then that loyalty should be rewarded. If the club can give 1200 points for a season ticket then they should also be prepared to pay in points for that loyal supporter who is willing to put in that extra effort to go to an away game not just because someone is putting money via a season ticket. As I stated I understand that the club needs revenue but more important it needs supporters.
I am only giving an opinion here as can be seen I do now live in Rhodes and to attend even a couple of home games would cost as much as a season ticket, although I have been once.
so what you are saying is that the fan that attends away matches should get something even if their attendance doesn't benefit the club in finacial terms.
I can see some merit in making that call, and maybe the reward should be something which helps the traveller, but what and at what level. The adavantages gained from being a season ticket holder shouldn't be deminished, apart from outside sponsors the season ticket buyer is king.
Maybe a new, 'reward,' should be allocated to travelling fans, 'rail miles,' the more miles travelled the more points you get, those miles can then be used to discount the rail costs. This idea would be a new cost to the club, but it would reward those that make the effort to cheer the team on when not playing at home.
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dingbat99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Can anyone who is going to the forum ask a question for me, Not every fan lives in Sussex but we still follow the Albion, can you ask when someone who goes to 22 away games struggles or has to rely on friends to get a ticket for example forest away or Derby in the playoffs, when people with season tickets regardless if they have not bothered to go to away game all season get priority over people who bother to turn up at Leicester/Hull on a week night, but because you automatically get 1200 points for a season ticket makes it unfair to those who live outside Sussex, I think they should scrap the points system and take note who does go to away games, it's all on computer so they do no exactly who goes, moving back to Sussex is not a option, but being treated fairly by the club IS, no matter where we live!! Ten home games as well so I am a fan!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I'll answer that for you. When you go to away games, your money goes to the away club. The Albion only get income from away Cup games not league games. Season ticket holders pay hundreds of pounds into the club coffers, so therefore it is right that they get priority tickets. I doubt very much if there was a game that you missed out on because you didn't have enough points for it as apart from the playoff games, none of the away games sold out.[/p][/quote]And that is the big problem in today’s game! Money rules not the supporters. Like any other business now, not just the Albion all clubs care more about money than Supporters/Fans, without income from other sources clubs could not survive in today’s money orientated world. Discrimination used to be a thing of the past but now clubs will discriminate between those that can afford season tickets and those like Dingbat99 who maybe can afford the ticket but are unable to get to home games to make it a viable proposition for him. What makes even more un-fair (best way to put it) is that many season ticket holders don’t attend all the games. If someone can be bothered to go to the (for some) away games at considerable expense then the club should recognize there loyalty to the club. I have stated before that without supporters/fans the club/s would not exist so have to agree with Dingbat99 a system that is fair to all on attendance rather than “I have season ticket and may go to the game” should be the way to go.[/p][/quote]I think I'm missing the point here. What system do you propose and how would it work exactly Rhodes Seagull?[/p][/quote]All I am saying is if a supporter can travel to what ever club we are playing away at then that loyalty should be rewarded. If the club can give 1200 points for a season ticket then they should also be prepared to pay in points for that loyal supporter who is willing to put in that extra effort to go to an away game not just because someone is putting money via a season ticket. As I stated I understand that the club needs revenue but more important it needs supporters. I am only giving an opinion here as can be seen I do now live in Rhodes and to attend even a couple of home games would cost as much as a season ticket, although I have been once.[/p][/quote]so what you are saying is that the fan that attends away matches should get something even if their attendance doesn't benefit the club in finacial terms. I can see some merit in making that call, and maybe the reward should be something which helps the traveller, but what and at what level. The adavantages gained from being a season ticket holder shouldn't be deminished, apart from outside sponsors the season ticket buyer is king. Maybe a new, 'reward,' should be allocated to travelling fans, 'rail miles,' the more miles travelled the more points you get, those miles can then be used to discount the rail costs. This idea would be a new cost to the club, but it would reward those that make the effort to cheer the team on when not playing at home. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

3:54pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Chi Gull says...

Clubs are only interested in money not supporters? Surely they are the same thing ? I don't know how the points system works, but I can see that fans who regularly attend away games should get some sort of priority for away games with limited tickets. Season ticket holders should get priority for all home games not covered by their ticket. Fans who do both should get the top priority of all. As others have said, there are probably only 2 or 3 games each season when this is an issue, so is it that important ?
Clubs are only interested in money not supporters? Surely they are the same thing ? I don't know how the points system works, but I can see that fans who regularly attend away games should get some sort of priority for away games with limited tickets. Season ticket holders should get priority for all home games not covered by their ticket. Fans who do both should get the top priority of all. As others have said, there are probably only 2 or 3 games each season when this is an issue, so is it that important ? Chi Gull
  • Score: 2

4:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

So it's past 4pm UK time and zero news of any new players having signed, not even one, even allowing for what Barber has recently stated, this is a tad suprising to me.
Ward, maned in Naylor's trio, would seem the easiest to complete, and with the forum being not much more than 24 hours away, I would have thought that the club would want at least one bit of good news to take with them.

I would think that the fans might understand other deals, in or out of the trio, might take time, but the Ward deal, even if it isn't, looks simple.
Of course the Ward deal isn't simple, no deal ever is, but it is perceived as a simple one by most.

If I was Hyypia I would come down with a sudden bout of the flu , leave it to others to attend the forum, the questions could be very harsh.
So it's past 4pm UK time and zero news of any new players having signed, not even one, even allowing for what Barber has recently stated, this is a tad suprising to me. Ward, maned in Naylor's trio, would seem the easiest to complete, and with the forum being not much more than 24 hours away, I would have thought that the club would want at least one bit of good news to take with them. I would think that the fans might understand other deals, in or out of the trio, might take time, but the Ward deal, even if it isn't, looks simple. Of course the Ward deal isn't simple, no deal ever is, but it is perceived as a simple one by most. If I was Hyypia I would come down with a sudden bout of the flu , leave it to others to attend the forum, the questions could be very harsh. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

4:27pm Mon 4 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
RussinArmy wrote:
According to Wiki Adam Clayton is an Albion player - Hooray
Wiki is not Gospel! Sometimes they do "jump the gun " - whoever posts details on their site.Also they say he signed last month.
If I recall correctly Wiki in January said that Grabban was an Albion player and we know what happened to that deal. Hope it is not the kiss of death on this one since I think Clayton would be a good acquisition.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RussinArmy[/bold] wrote: According to Wiki Adam Clayton is an Albion player - Hooray[/p][/quote]Wiki is not Gospel! Sometimes they do "jump the gun " - whoever posts details on their site.Also they say he signed last month.[/p][/quote]If I recall correctly Wiki in January said that Grabban was an Albion player and we know what happened to that deal. Hope it is not the kiss of death on this one since I think Clayton would be a good acquisition. ballantrrae
  • Score: 6

4:29pm Mon 4 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Chi Gull--I have just looked on Wiki and it still says Clayton is a Huddersfield player--do not know if there is a different Wiki to the one I looked at??? Argus also names him as a ´prolific´goalscor
er---he scored 7 in 42 games last season according to one report. But that is not to say IF we sign him he will click with us--I hope and by tomorrow. Tomorrow eveing should be interesting one way or another.
Chi Gull--I have just looked on Wiki and it still says Clayton is a Huddersfield player--do not know if there is a different Wiki to the one I looked at??? Argus also names him as a ´prolific´goalscor er---he scored 7 in 42 games last season according to one report. But that is not to say IF we sign him he will click with us--I hope and by tomorrow. Tomorrow eveing should be interesting one way or another. mikeygit
  • Score: 3

5:03pm Mon 4 Aug 14

RussinArmy says...

Sorry Wiki has changed since this morning, weird??? Reference Adam Clayton
Sorry Wiki has changed since this morning, weird??? Reference Adam Clayton RussinArmy
  • Score: 1

5:09pm Mon 4 Aug 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So it's past 4pm UK time and zero news of any new players having signed, not even one, even allowing for what Barber has recently stated, this is a tad suprising to me.
Ward, maned in Naylor's trio, would seem the easiest to complete, and with the forum being not much more than 24 hours away, I would have thought that the club would want at least one bit of good news to take with them.

I would think that the fans might understand other deals, in or out of the trio, might take time, but the Ward deal, even if it isn't, looks simple.
Of course the Ward deal isn't simple, no deal ever is, but it is perceived as a simple one by most.

If I was Hyypia I would come down with a sudden bout of the flu , leave it to others to attend the forum, the questions could be very harsh.
They will quite easily deflect any difficult questions, Vegas.
If there have been no signings by this time tomorrow, they will simply say that they never respond to media speculation, and that there will be no official announcement until after a player has signed.
They will also say that they are working hard to get the players that Sami needs to complete the squad.
I guarantee that they will have reasonable and acceptable answers prepared for any awkward questions, and they won't get as rough a ride as some people think.
After all, at the end of the day we are all on the same side.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So it's past 4pm UK time and zero news of any new players having signed, not even one, even allowing for what Barber has recently stated, this is a tad suprising to me. Ward, maned in Naylor's trio, would seem the easiest to complete, and with the forum being not much more than 24 hours away, I would have thought that the club would want at least one bit of good news to take with them. I would think that the fans might understand other deals, in or out of the trio, might take time, but the Ward deal, even if it isn't, looks simple. Of course the Ward deal isn't simple, no deal ever is, but it is perceived as a simple one by most. If I was Hyypia I would come down with a sudden bout of the flu , leave it to others to attend the forum, the questions could be very harsh.[/p][/quote]They will quite easily deflect any difficult questions, Vegas. If there have been no signings by this time tomorrow, they will simply say that they never respond to media speculation, and that there will be no official announcement until after a player has signed. They will also say that they are working hard to get the players that Sami needs to complete the squad. I guarantee that they will have reasonable and acceptable answers prepared for any awkward questions, and they won't get as rough a ride as some people think. After all, at the end of the day we are all on the same side. gordongull
  • Score: 3

5:20pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread..
Mine would be.
In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager?
I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team.
Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA
A good thought to develop JG, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of your question!
For me, hindsight discussions on Gus would get us nowhere. What's done is done and whether we'd be in the PL now, can only be conjecture anyway. For me, we should focus on now and the future.
So one of mine (there'd be so many!) would be to ask whether the club is confident that those who fall foul of FFP will actually get a fitting punishment? My reasoning is simply; is our adherence going to be worth it in terms of it ultimately benefitting us in competition?
There's no doubt it's an obvious and sensible business objective in it's own right, but in playing terms, are we being taken for mugs and is FFP ultimately workable?
I agree with you Staffs. Joel'sGrandad is always a decent poster but I too think it would be an unnecessarily uncomfortable question to ask, especially as it would be in the presence of our new man Sami, who wouldn't appreciate a comparison with a former favourite. Neither would I if I was him!

I'm sure your suggested choice about FFP will be asked and is a pertinent question indeed.
Sorry about my question but I was feeling rather mischievous this morning.
I would probably only ask that question in private and certainly not in front of Sami who deserves some respect and our support.
There were some good alternatives however and I certainly hope we get some reassuring answers and don't get fobbed off.
I think FFP will on the agenda and I thought the one about points to buy away tickets has validity too. But I think the fact we're not investing in the team will be high on the agenda but then I have the feeling the next 24 hours might just knock that one on the head.
Here's hoping. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread.. Mine would be. In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager? I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team. Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA[/p][/quote]A good thought to develop JG, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of your question! For me, hindsight discussions on Gus would get us nowhere. What's done is done and whether we'd be in the PL now, can only be conjecture anyway. For me, we should focus on now and the future. So one of mine (there'd be so many!) would be to ask whether the club is confident that those who fall foul of FFP will actually get a fitting punishment? My reasoning is simply; is our adherence going to be worth it in terms of it ultimately benefitting us in competition? There's no doubt it's an obvious and sensible business objective in it's own right, but in playing terms, are we being taken for mugs and is FFP ultimately workable?[/p][/quote]I agree with you Staffs. Joel'sGrandad is always a decent poster but I too think it would be an unnecessarily uncomfortable question to ask, especially as it would be in the presence of our new man Sami, who wouldn't appreciate a comparison with a former favourite. Neither would I if I was him! I'm sure your suggested choice about FFP will be asked and is a pertinent question indeed.[/p][/quote]Sorry about my question but I was feeling rather mischievous this morning. I would probably only ask that question in private and certainly not in front of Sami who deserves some respect and our support. There were some good alternatives however and I certainly hope we get some reassuring answers and don't get fobbed off. I think FFP will on the agenda and I thought the one about points to buy away tickets has validity too. But I think the fact we're not investing in the team will be high on the agenda but then I have the feeling the next 24 hours might just knock that one on the head. Here's hoping. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 3

5:22pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So it's past 4pm UK time and zero news of any new players having signed, not even one, even allowing for what Barber has recently stated, this is a tad suprising to me.
Ward, maned in Naylor's trio, would seem the easiest to complete, and with the forum being not much more than 24 hours away, I would have thought that the club would want at least one bit of good news to take with them.

I would think that the fans might understand other deals, in or out of the trio, might take time, but the Ward deal, even if it isn't, looks simple.
Of course the Ward deal isn't simple, no deal ever is, but it is perceived as a simple one by most.

If I was Hyypia I would come down with a sudden bout of the flu , leave it to others to attend the forum, the questions could be very harsh.
They will quite easily deflect any difficult questions, Vegas.
If there have been no signings by this time tomorrow, they will simply say that they never respond to media speculation, and that there will be no official announcement until after a player has signed.
They will also say that they are working hard to get the players that Sami needs to complete the squad.
I guarantee that they will have reasonable and acceptable answers prepared for any awkward questions, and they won't get as rough a ride as some people think.
After all, at the end of the day we are all on the same side.
Gordon, waffle will only carry you so far when replying to questions, maybe the first twenty minutes and 6 or 7 questions, but when the questions keep coming the waffle starts to wear thin. If the fans come away from this forum, and all those listening on their radios too, without some direct answers to direct questions, the whole forum will have been a waste, and the fans won't like that.

Tell me the truth, and whether I like it or not, I am compelled to accept it, hand me BS, and all you are doing is insulting me, and that I won't accept.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So it's past 4pm UK time and zero news of any new players having signed, not even one, even allowing for what Barber has recently stated, this is a tad suprising to me. Ward, maned in Naylor's trio, would seem the easiest to complete, and with the forum being not much more than 24 hours away, I would have thought that the club would want at least one bit of good news to take with them. I would think that the fans might understand other deals, in or out of the trio, might take time, but the Ward deal, even if it isn't, looks simple. Of course the Ward deal isn't simple, no deal ever is, but it is perceived as a simple one by most. If I was Hyypia I would come down with a sudden bout of the flu , leave it to others to attend the forum, the questions could be very harsh.[/p][/quote]They will quite easily deflect any difficult questions, Vegas. If there have been no signings by this time tomorrow, they will simply say that they never respond to media speculation, and that there will be no official announcement until after a player has signed. They will also say that they are working hard to get the players that Sami needs to complete the squad. I guarantee that they will have reasonable and acceptable answers prepared for any awkward questions, and they won't get as rough a ride as some people think. After all, at the end of the day we are all on the same side.[/p][/quote]Gordon, waffle will only carry you so far when replying to questions, maybe the first twenty minutes and 6 or 7 questions, but when the questions keep coming the waffle starts to wear thin. If the fans come away from this forum, and all those listening on their radios too, without some direct answers to direct questions, the whole forum will have been a waste, and the fans won't like that. Tell me the truth, and whether I like it or not, I am compelled to accept it, hand me BS, and all you are doing is insulting me, and that I won't accept. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

5:55pm Mon 4 Aug 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So it's past 4pm UK time and zero news of any new players having signed, not even one, even allowing for what Barber has recently stated, this is a tad suprising to me.
Ward, maned in Naylor's trio, would seem the easiest to complete, and with the forum being not much more than 24 hours away, I would have thought that the club would want at least one bit of good news to take with them.

I would think that the fans might understand other deals, in or out of the trio, might take time, but the Ward deal, even if it isn't, looks simple.
Of course the Ward deal isn't simple, no deal ever is, but it is perceived as a simple one by most.

If I was Hyypia I would come down with a sudden bout of the flu , leave it to others to attend the forum, the questions could be very harsh.
They will quite easily deflect any difficult questions, Vegas.
If there have been no signings by this time tomorrow, they will simply say that they never respond to media speculation, and that there will be no official announcement until after a player has signed.
They will also say that they are working hard to get the players that Sami needs to complete the squad.
I guarantee that they will have reasonable and acceptable answers prepared for any awkward questions, and they won't get as rough a ride as some people think.
After all, at the end of the day we are all on the same side.
Gordon, waffle will only carry you so far when replying to questions, maybe the first twenty minutes and 6 or 7 questions, but when the questions keep coming the waffle starts to wear thin. If the fans come away from this forum, and all those listening on their radios too, without some direct answers to direct questions, the whole forum will have been a waste, and the fans won't like that.

Tell me the truth, and whether I like it or not, I am compelled to accept it, hand me BS, and all you are doing is insulting me, and that I won't accept.
That is all fair enough, Vegas, but the most awkward questions are likely to involve the acquisition, (or otherwise), of players, and the response will be that ''We are working hard behind the scenes to get players in, but are unable to release details while negotiations are ongoing.''
Hopefully there will have been some activity before then, and the main emphasis of the forum will be on the short and long term ambitions of the Club, and the effects of items such as FFP and teams receiving parachute money.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So it's past 4pm UK time and zero news of any new players having signed, not even one, even allowing for what Barber has recently stated, this is a tad suprising to me. Ward, maned in Naylor's trio, would seem the easiest to complete, and with the forum being not much more than 24 hours away, I would have thought that the club would want at least one bit of good news to take with them. I would think that the fans might understand other deals, in or out of the trio, might take time, but the Ward deal, even if it isn't, looks simple. Of course the Ward deal isn't simple, no deal ever is, but it is perceived as a simple one by most. If I was Hyypia I would come down with a sudden bout of the flu , leave it to others to attend the forum, the questions could be very harsh.[/p][/quote]They will quite easily deflect any difficult questions, Vegas. If there have been no signings by this time tomorrow, they will simply say that they never respond to media speculation, and that there will be no official announcement until after a player has signed. They will also say that they are working hard to get the players that Sami needs to complete the squad. I guarantee that they will have reasonable and acceptable answers prepared for any awkward questions, and they won't get as rough a ride as some people think. After all, at the end of the day we are all on the same side.[/p][/quote]Gordon, waffle will only carry you so far when replying to questions, maybe the first twenty minutes and 6 or 7 questions, but when the questions keep coming the waffle starts to wear thin. If the fans come away from this forum, and all those listening on their radios too, without some direct answers to direct questions, the whole forum will have been a waste, and the fans won't like that. Tell me the truth, and whether I like it or not, I am compelled to accept it, hand me BS, and all you are doing is insulting me, and that I won't accept.[/p][/quote]That is all fair enough, Vegas, but the most awkward questions are likely to involve the acquisition, (or otherwise), of players, and the response will be that ''We are working hard behind the scenes to get players in, but are unable to release details while negotiations are ongoing.'' Hopefully there will have been some activity before then, and the main emphasis of the forum will be on the short and long term ambitions of the Club, and the effects of items such as FFP and teams receiving parachute money. gordongull
  • Score: 2

6:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Sky Sports are reporting that Brostol City are say that the bids for Baldock have been, 'derisory,' and that the player seems happy there.
Sky Sports are reporting that Brostol City are say that the bids for Baldock have been, 'derisory,' and that the player seems happy there. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

6:44pm Mon 4 Aug 14

gordongull says...

Bristol are second favourites for the League one title, and Sam Baldock is Captain and the Division's top scorer last season.
If he moves here, there is no guarantee he will even get a game.
Just over a week ago he said:
The manager has told me that he wants me to stay and I’m more than happy to do so. I think we’ve got a fantastic squad here and we can really go places this season.”
He also said that he doesn't let the media speculation distract him.
This doesn't sound to me like a player who is ''expected to sign''.
Let's hope that evidence for the other two members of the Trio signing was a little more tangible.
Bristol are second favourites for the League one title, and Sam Baldock is Captain and the Division's top scorer last season. If he moves here, there is no guarantee he will even get a game. Just over a week ago he said: The manager has told me that he wants me to stay and I’m more than happy to do so. I think we’ve got a fantastic squad here and we can really go places this season.” He also said that he doesn't let the media speculation distract him. This doesn't sound to me like a player who is ''expected to sign''. Let's hope that evidence for the other two members of the Trio signing was a little more tangible. gordongull
  • Score: 2

7:07pm Mon 4 Aug 14

tug509 says...

Hi Vegas Hi all ,
I have been a very good lad today and kept away from this site ,I`ve read and agree with all above (mostly ,impossible to agree with everything) but I hoped as you did that something would materialise today ,but alas here we are .
I would love to be at the forum tomorrow ,so many questions need answering ,I truly hope all concerned are open and honest ,but I have the distinct feeling we will be given a lesson in political evasion from the suits ,and whilst Sami may wish to be more forthcoming ,will be under instruction to keep it under his hat ,as always I hope I have this wrong and we have some pleasant surprises . UTA
Hi Vegas Hi all , I have been a very good lad today and kept away from this site ,I`ve read and agree with all above (mostly ,impossible to agree with everything) but I hoped as you did that something would materialise today ,but alas here we are . I would love to be at the forum tomorrow ,so many questions need answering ,I truly hope all concerned are open and honest ,but I have the distinct feeling we will be given a lesson in political evasion from the suits ,and whilst Sami may wish to be more forthcoming ,will be under instruction to keep it under his hat ,as always I hope I have this wrong and we have some pleasant surprises . UTA tug509
  • Score: 4

7:32pm Mon 4 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

gordongull---I tend to agree with you as to what may be said tomorrow in answer to direct questions. IMO there is little point in having these forums if they are going to follow the same pattern time after time with little intention of answering FANS direct questions. Rightly or wrongly it gives the impression the Board have little time for answering fans questions. Put the same thing in get the same thing out. The Board need to acknowledge that there comes a time when the worm turns--ie Fans-- and unless things change to a more open and honest question and answer sessions then fans will not bother turning up--and that could be the same for match days. I am HOPEFUL that all will come good in the end--note I did not say confident?? i know the Board are in a difficult position sometimes having to try and please the fans by indicating that ´players are on their way in´and then nothing seems to happen, then if they say nothing that is again wrong. i do not know what the answer is but it would be helpful if at these Forums it was spelt out to the fans a little clearer as to why there are ´false´promises made and what the problems are. I also hope tomorrow they spell out the budget before and after Ulloas departure.
gordongull---I tend to agree with you as to what may be said tomorrow in answer to direct questions. IMO there is little point in having these forums if they are going to follow the same pattern time after time with little intention of answering FANS direct questions. Rightly or wrongly it gives the impression the Board have little time for answering fans questions. Put the same thing in get the same thing out. The Board need to acknowledge that there comes a time when the worm turns--ie Fans-- and unless things change to a more open and honest question and answer sessions then fans will not bother turning up--and that could be the same for match days. I am HOPEFUL that all will come good in the end--note I did not say confident?? i know the Board are in a difficult position sometimes having to try and please the fans by indicating that ´players are on their way in´and then nothing seems to happen, then if they say nothing that is again wrong. i do not know what the answer is but it would be helpful if at these Forums it was spelt out to the fans a little clearer as to why there are ´false´promises made and what the problems are. I also hope tomorrow they spell out the budget before and after Ulloas departure. mikeygit
  • Score: 2

7:48pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

Chi Gull wrote:
Clubs are only interested in money not supporters? Surely they are the same thing ? I don't know how the points system works, but I can see that fans who regularly attend away games should get some sort of priority for away games with limited tickets. Season ticket holders should get priority for all home games not covered by their ticket. Fans who do both should get the top priority of all. As others have said, there are probably only 2 or 3 games each season when this is an issue, so is it that important ?
Yes I agree. Perhaps a split allocation of STHs priority and away fans i.e a certain number of top-point-scoring away fans get a separate channel into some of the tickets.

There is of course no ideal system as somebody somewhere will miss out on tickets they feel deserving of and the debate has long been contemplated on forums and by staff at the club alike.

I can't see them changing what they've established any time soon, though, as it comes after a long, contemplative period.
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: Clubs are only interested in money not supporters? Surely they are the same thing ? I don't know how the points system works, but I can see that fans who regularly attend away games should get some sort of priority for away games with limited tickets. Season ticket holders should get priority for all home games not covered by their ticket. Fans who do both should get the top priority of all. As others have said, there are probably only 2 or 3 games each season when this is an issue, so is it that important ?[/p][/quote]Yes I agree. Perhaps a split allocation of STHs priority and away fans i.e a certain number of top-point-scoring away fans get a separate channel into some of the tickets. There is of course no ideal system as somebody somewhere will miss out on tickets they feel deserving of and the debate has long been contemplated on forums and by staff at the club alike. I can't see them changing what they've established any time soon, though, as it comes after a long, contemplative period. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

7:49pm Mon 4 Aug 14

pte says...

To attend the forum you have to apply through the club. My guess is that the club has pre selected the attendees to those who are known and trusted not to ask awkward questions or if they do, will not press with follow up questions that highlight any inconsistencies. To show it's not cooked up they will allow a few difficult questions knowing they have a few pat answers that will go unchallenged.

So the chances of MBTS or Minefield Sweeper slipping in are remote

If they do get in it's pointless asking the suits difficult questions as they will have all the answers ready. But if you ask Sami if the targets that go back 12 months when we were playing a different style are now his preferred targets he might inadvertently embarrass the suits. He can't say he's happy if he's unhappy because the players will know otherwise.

A good question would be what is the target for this season
To attend the forum you have to apply through the club. My guess is that the club has pre selected the attendees to those who are known and trusted not to ask awkward questions or if they do, will not press with follow up questions that highlight any inconsistencies. To show it's not cooked up they will allow a few difficult questions knowing they have a few pat answers that will go unchallenged. So the chances of MBTS or Minefield Sweeper slipping in are remote If they do get in it's pointless asking the suits difficult questions as they will have all the answers ready. But if you ask Sami if the targets that go back 12 months when we were playing a different style are now his preferred targets he might inadvertently embarrass the suits. He can't say he's happy if he's unhappy because the players will know otherwise. A good question would be what is the target for this season pte
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

RussinArmy wrote:
Sorry Wiki has changed since this morning, weird??? Reference Adam Clayton
Anyone can edit Wiki so I assume a mischievous character called him ours and somebody else with a personal interest (his agent, family, Hudds fan or perhaps Clayton himself has adjusted it to avoid confusion / complications with a possible as yet unsealed deal.
[quote][p][bold]RussinArmy[/bold] wrote: Sorry Wiki has changed since this morning, weird??? Reference Adam Clayton[/p][/quote]Anyone can edit Wiki so I assume a mischievous character called him ours and somebody else with a personal interest (his agent, family, Hudds fan or perhaps Clayton himself has adjusted it to avoid confusion / complications with a possible as yet unsealed deal. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

7:55pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread..
Mine would be.
In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager?
I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team.
Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA
A good thought to develop JG, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of your question!
For me, hindsight discussions on Gus would get us nowhere. What's done is done and whether we'd be in the PL now, can only be conjecture anyway. For me, we should focus on now and the future.
So one of mine (there'd be so many!) would be to ask whether the club is confident that those who fall foul of FFP will actually get a fitting punishment? My reasoning is simply; is our adherence going to be worth it in terms of it ultimately benefitting us in competition?
There's no doubt it's an obvious and sensible business objective in it's own right, but in playing terms, are we being taken for mugs and is FFP ultimately workable?
I agree with you Staffs. Joel'sGrandad is always a decent poster but I too think it would be an unnecessarily uncomfortable question to ask, especially as it would be in the presence of our new man Sami, who wouldn't appreciate a comparison with a former favourite. Neither would I if I was him!

I'm sure your suggested choice about FFP will be asked and is a pertinent question indeed.
Sorry about my question but I was feeling rather mischievous this morning.
I would probably only ask that question in private and certainly not in front of Sami who deserves some respect and our support.
There were some good alternatives however and I certainly hope we get some reassuring answers and don't get fobbed off.
I think FFP will on the agenda and I thought the one about points to buy away tickets has validity too. But I think the fact we're not investing in the team will be high on the agenda but then I have the feeling the next 24 hours might just knock that one on the head.
Here's hoping. UTA
Indeedy. The hour usually flies by at these things anyway so there will be little time to spare once we get past the Oscar departure and current transfer dealings questions.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I think we need a "what question would you like asked at the Fan's Forum" thread.. Mine would be. In hindsight do you regret not going with Gus Poyet and do you think we'd be in the PL if he was still manager? I know this is contentious but I only ask it because that experience hasn't put us in any way in a better position to go up. We seem to be still making the same mistakes in not investing in the team. Probably get loads of thumbs down but hey ho! UTA[/p][/quote]A good thought to develop JG, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of your question! For me, hindsight discussions on Gus would get us nowhere. What's done is done and whether we'd be in the PL now, can only be conjecture anyway. For me, we should focus on now and the future. So one of mine (there'd be so many!) would be to ask whether the club is confident that those who fall foul of FFP will actually get a fitting punishment? My reasoning is simply; is our adherence going to be worth it in terms of it ultimately benefitting us in competition? There's no doubt it's an obvious and sensible business objective in it's own right, but in playing terms, are we being taken for mugs and is FFP ultimately workable?[/p][/quote]I agree with you Staffs. Joel'sGrandad is always a decent poster but I too think it would be an unnecessarily uncomfortable question to ask, especially as it would be in the presence of our new man Sami, who wouldn't appreciate a comparison with a former favourite. Neither would I if I was him! I'm sure your suggested choice about FFP will be asked and is a pertinent question indeed.[/p][/quote]Sorry about my question but I was feeling rather mischievous this morning. I would probably only ask that question in private and certainly not in front of Sami who deserves some respect and our support. There were some good alternatives however and I certainly hope we get some reassuring answers and don't get fobbed off. I think FFP will on the agenda and I thought the one about points to buy away tickets has validity too. But I think the fact we're not investing in the team will be high on the agenda but then I have the feeling the next 24 hours might just knock that one on the head. Here's hoping. UTA[/p][/quote]Indeedy. The hour usually flies by at these things anyway so there will be little time to spare once we get past the Oscar departure and current transfer dealings questions. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

8:06pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

10 direct questions that, 'could,' be answered directly.

1. Are talks advanced with any new signing that you are confident will see them arrive before our first match.
2. Was our planned transfer budget added to the money gained form selling Ulloa.
3. Did the money gained from selling Bridcutt go toward reducing our losses of last season.
4. Does Hyypia have a veto on all signings.
5. Are we bidding to buy Clayton and or Baldock.
6. Are talks going on with regard to Lingard.
7. Can you state that the goal for this season a top six finish.
8. Are there any plans for some of our younger players going out on loan this season, apart form Monkana.
9. What was the thinking behind letting Orlandi go.
10. Are season ticket sales in line with last year's figures.

My guess is that maybe half would get a direct answer.
10 direct questions that, 'could,' be answered directly. 1. Are talks advanced with any new signing that you are confident will see them arrive before our first match. 2. Was our planned transfer budget added to the money gained form selling Ulloa. 3. Did the money gained from selling Bridcutt go toward reducing our losses of last season. 4. Does Hyypia have a veto on all signings. 5. Are we bidding to buy Clayton and or Baldock. 6. Are talks going on with regard to Lingard. 7. Can you state that the goal for this season a top six finish. 8. Are there any plans for some of our younger players going out on loan this season, apart form Monkana. 9. What was the thinking behind letting Orlandi go. 10. Are season ticket sales in line with last year's figures. My guess is that maybe half would get a direct answer. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

8:06pm Mon 4 Aug 14

gordongull says...

mikeygit wrote:
gordongull---I tend to agree with you as to what may be said tomorrow in answer to direct questions. IMO there is little point in having these forums if they are going to follow the same pattern time after time with little intention of answering FANS direct questions. Rightly or wrongly it gives the impression the Board have little time for answering fans questions. Put the same thing in get the same thing out. The Board need to acknowledge that there comes a time when the worm turns--ie Fans-- and unless things change to a more open and honest question and answer sessions then fans will not bother turning up--and that could be the same for match days. I am HOPEFUL that all will come good in the end--note I did not say confident?? i know the Board are in a difficult position sometimes having to try and please the fans by indicating that ´players are on their way in´and then nothing seems to happen, then if they say nothing that is again wrong. i do not know what the answer is but it would be helpful if at these Forums it was spelt out to the fans a little clearer as to why there are ´false´promises made and what the problems are. I also hope tomorrow they spell out the budget before and after Ulloas departure.
There are a lot of subjects that the panel can, and hopefully will discuss openly and honestly.
But I don't think that the most contentious issue, which is currently player recruitment, will be discussed in anything more than general terms.
For example there isn't the slightest chance of the names of targets being revealed, or how much money is available for players.
Unless there is an influx of players, (over the age of 21) before 7pm tomorrow, I think they will be relying on Sami's charisma and enthusiasm to pull them through.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: gordongull---I tend to agree with you as to what may be said tomorrow in answer to direct questions. IMO there is little point in having these forums if they are going to follow the same pattern time after time with little intention of answering FANS direct questions. Rightly or wrongly it gives the impression the Board have little time for answering fans questions. Put the same thing in get the same thing out. The Board need to acknowledge that there comes a time when the worm turns--ie Fans-- and unless things change to a more open and honest question and answer sessions then fans will not bother turning up--and that could be the same for match days. I am HOPEFUL that all will come good in the end--note I did not say confident?? i know the Board are in a difficult position sometimes having to try and please the fans by indicating that ´players are on their way in´and then nothing seems to happen, then if they say nothing that is again wrong. i do not know what the answer is but it would be helpful if at these Forums it was spelt out to the fans a little clearer as to why there are ´false´promises made and what the problems are. I also hope tomorrow they spell out the budget before and after Ulloas departure.[/p][/quote]There are a lot of subjects that the panel can, and hopefully will discuss openly and honestly. But I don't think that the most contentious issue, which is currently player recruitment, will be discussed in anything more than general terms. For example there isn't the slightest chance of the names of targets being revealed, or how much money is available for players. Unless there is an influx of players, (over the age of 21) before 7pm tomorrow, I think they will be relying on Sami's charisma and enthusiasm to pull them through. gordongull
  • Score: 2

8:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
10 direct questions that, 'could,' be answered directly.

1. Are talks advanced with any new signing that you are confident will see them arrive before our first match.
2. Was our planned transfer budget added to the money gained form selling Ulloa.
3. Did the money gained from selling Bridcutt go toward reducing our losses of last season.
4. Does Hyypia have a veto on all signings.
5. Are we bidding to buy Clayton and or Baldock.
6. Are talks going on with regard to Lingard.
7. Can you state that the goal for this season a top six finish.
8. Are there any plans for some of our younger players going out on loan this season, apart form Monkana.
9. What was the thinking behind letting Orlandi go.
10. Are season ticket sales in line with last year's figures.

My guess is that maybe half would get a direct answer.
You forgot the important one.

How does Barber relax? during his free time.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: 10 direct questions that, 'could,' be answered directly. 1. Are talks advanced with any new signing that you are confident will see them arrive before our first match. 2. Was our planned transfer budget added to the money gained form selling Ulloa. 3. Did the money gained from selling Bridcutt go toward reducing our losses of last season. 4. Does Hyypia have a veto on all signings. 5. Are we bidding to buy Clayton and or Baldock. 6. Are talks going on with regard to Lingard. 7. Can you state that the goal for this season a top six finish. 8. Are there any plans for some of our younger players going out on loan this season, apart form Monkana. 9. What was the thinking behind letting Orlandi go. 10. Are season ticket sales in line with last year's figures. My guess is that maybe half would get a direct answer.[/p][/quote]You forgot the important one. How does Barber relax? during his free time. ringtone
  • Score: -2

8:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

pte wrote:
To attend the forum you have to apply through the club. My guess is that the club has pre selected the attendees to those who are known and trusted not to ask awkward questions or if they do, will not press with follow up questions that highlight any inconsistencies. To show it's not cooked up they will allow a few difficult questions knowing they have a few pat answers that will go unchallenged.

So the chances of MBTS or Minefield Sweeper slipping in are remote

If they do get in it's pointless asking the suits difficult questions as they will have all the answers ready. But if you ask Sami if the targets that go back 12 months when we were playing a different style are now his preferred targets he might inadvertently embarrass the suits. He can't say he's happy if he's unhappy because the players will know otherwise.

A good question would be what is the target for this season
With all due respect the notion of screening attendees is ridiculous. The club will recognise a handful of well known fans e.g "Attila The Stockbroker" who will ask awkward questions if required but they will have faces of hardly any past "awkward questioners" matched up to names.

The club has far better things to do than rig the ticket allocations for this, I'm sure, and besides if Attila were to have an early enough application to attend refused there'd be a fuss caused anyway.

Pte, do you like Oliver Stone movies and UFO conventions by any chance?!
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: To attend the forum you have to apply through the club. My guess is that the club has pre selected the attendees to those who are known and trusted not to ask awkward questions or if they do, will not press with follow up questions that highlight any inconsistencies. To show it's not cooked up they will allow a few difficult questions knowing they have a few pat answers that will go unchallenged. So the chances of MBTS or Minefield Sweeper slipping in are remote If they do get in it's pointless asking the suits difficult questions as they will have all the answers ready. But if you ask Sami if the targets that go back 12 months when we were playing a different style are now his preferred targets he might inadvertently embarrass the suits. He can't say he's happy if he's unhappy because the players will know otherwise. A good question would be what is the target for this season[/p][/quote]With all due respect the notion of screening attendees is ridiculous. The club will recognise a handful of well known fans e.g "Attila The Stockbroker" who will ask awkward questions if required but they will have faces of hardly any past "awkward questioners" matched up to names. The club has far better things to do than rig the ticket allocations for this, I'm sure, and besides if Attila were to have an early enough application to attend refused there'd be a fuss caused anyway. Pte, do you like Oliver Stone movies and UFO conventions by any chance?! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

8:34pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
10 direct questions that, 'could,' be answered directly.

1. Are talks advanced with any new signing that you are confident will see them arrive before our first match.
2. Was our planned transfer budget added to the money gained form selling Ulloa.
3. Did the money gained from selling Bridcutt go toward reducing our losses of last season.
4. Does Hyypia have a veto on all signings.
5. Are we bidding to buy Clayton and or Baldock.
6. Are talks going on with regard to Lingard.
7. Can you state that the goal for this season a top six finish.
8. Are there any plans for some of our younger players going out on loan this season, apart form Monkana.
9. What was the thinking behind letting Orlandi go.
10. Are season ticket sales in line with last year's figures.

My guess is that maybe half would get a direct answer.
I would guess the short version of their answers to those questions would go something like this:

1) yes we are confident and are currently working hard to secure deals (some are close).
2) some has been swallowed up by FFP considerations but the majority is available PLUS the money gained from the sale of Ulloa, which is bonus money
3) partly but not much
4) yes
5) can't comment on anything yet
6) see 5) OR no, (depending on the reality)
7) yes but not crucial if development takes a bit longer with the changes
8) yes probably 2 or 3, some maybe in Jan
9) wanted to free up options until new manager has come in, assessed requirements and sought priority targets. (They MAY ref his recent injury probs too, I suppose.)
10) approx yes. (If pushed for figures they may well disclose current approx sales but reckon will be slightly cagey, assuming the figures are down to 21,000-ish as I've heard)
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: 10 direct questions that, 'could,' be answered directly. 1. Are talks advanced with any new signing that you are confident will see them arrive before our first match. 2. Was our planned transfer budget added to the money gained form selling Ulloa. 3. Did the money gained from selling Bridcutt go toward reducing our losses of last season. 4. Does Hyypia have a veto on all signings. 5. Are we bidding to buy Clayton and or Baldock. 6. Are talks going on with regard to Lingard. 7. Can you state that the goal for this season a top six finish. 8. Are there any plans for some of our younger players going out on loan this season, apart form Monkana. 9. What was the thinking behind letting Orlandi go. 10. Are season ticket sales in line with last year's figures. My guess is that maybe half would get a direct answer.[/p][/quote]I would guess the short version of their answers to those questions would go something like this: 1) yes we are confident and are currently working hard to secure deals (some are close). 2) some has been swallowed up by FFP considerations but the majority is available PLUS the money gained from the sale of Ulloa, which is bonus money 3) partly but not much 4) yes 5) can't comment on anything yet 6) see 5) OR no, (depending on the reality) 7) yes but not crucial if development takes a bit longer with the changes 8) yes probably 2 or 3, some maybe in Jan 9) wanted to free up options until new manager has come in, assessed requirements and sought priority targets. (They MAY ref his recent injury probs too, I suppose.) 10) approx yes. (If pushed for figures they may well disclose current approx sales but reckon will be slightly cagey, assuming the figures are down to 21,000-ish as I've heard) Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

8:35pm Mon 4 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Hmmm, just read the Huddesfield gazette, it would appear the deal for Clayton is far from being a certainty, same with Baldock, and here is the nettle the suits need to think about, other clubs know we have 12 million from players sold in last 8 months, they probably know fans are getting edgy as days pass by, are we in a good position to getting a good deal with 5 days left before kick off?
Tomo night looks likely to be interesting .
If we agree Burke has been on the look out for new players before OG left, why do we assume that can be achieved with 5 days to go?
Hmmm, just read the Huddesfield gazette, it would appear the deal for Clayton is far from being a certainty, same with Baldock, and here is the nettle the suits need to think about, other clubs know we have 12 million from players sold in last 8 months, they probably know fans are getting edgy as days pass by, are we in a good position to getting a good deal with 5 days left before kick off? Tomo night looks likely to be interesting . If we agree Burke has been on the look out for new players before OG left, why do we assume that can be achieved with 5 days to go? mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

9:07pm Mon 4 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Good question for Sami, tomorrow night.

Are you going to be like Stewart Pearce and not cover up for the suits?
Good question for Sami, tomorrow night. Are you going to be like Stewart Pearce and not cover up for the suits? ringtone
  • Score: 3

9:18pm Mon 4 Aug 14

pte says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
pte wrote:
To attend the forum you have to apply through the club. My guess is that the club has pre selected the attendees to those who are known and trusted not to ask awkward questions or if they do, will not press with follow up questions that highlight any inconsistencies. To show it's not cooked up they will allow a few difficult questions knowing they have a few pat answers that will go unchallenged.

So the chances of MBTS or Minefield Sweeper slipping in are remote

If they do get in it's pointless asking the suits difficult questions as they will have all the answers ready. But if you ask Sami if the targets that go back 12 months when we were playing a different style are now his preferred targets he might inadvertently embarrass the suits. He can't say he's happy if he's unhappy because the players will know otherwise.

A good question would be what is the target for this season
With all due respect the notion of screening attendees is ridiculous. The club will recognise a handful of well known fans e.g "Attila The Stockbroker" who will ask awkward questions if required but they will have faces of hardly any past "awkward questioners" matched up to names.

The club has far better things to do than rig the ticket allocations for this, I'm sure, and besides if Attila were to have an early enough application to attend refused there'd be a fuss caused anyway.

Pte, do you like Oliver Stone movies and UFO conventions by any chance?!
It's easy to rig it. You simply don't grant a ticket to anyone you don't personally know.

If Attila attends he will be completely isolated. If he puts in a difficult question 3 things will happen:

1. He will get no support or dissatisfied mutterings of "rhubarb- rhubarb" amongst the crowd.

2. The panel will give a pat answer and it will be 3 against 1

3. There will be a plant in the audience (not the green leaved kind) that will immediately step in either in support of the panel member or to ask an easy question so the panel can move away from the awkward question

You'll know if I'm right or wrong when you listen to the meeting

The only chance of an awkward question being asked and then relentlessly pressed (the last bit being most difficult) is if the Argus put a plant in the audience as Naylor and Owen will be too polite to ask difficult questions. That depend on getting then through the door
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: To attend the forum you have to apply through the club. My guess is that the club has pre selected the attendees to those who are known and trusted not to ask awkward questions or if they do, will not press with follow up questions that highlight any inconsistencies. To show it's not cooked up they will allow a few difficult questions knowing they have a few pat answers that will go unchallenged. So the chances of MBTS or Minefield Sweeper slipping in are remote If they do get in it's pointless asking the suits difficult questions as they will have all the answers ready. But if you ask Sami if the targets that go back 12 months when we were playing a different style are now his preferred targets he might inadvertently embarrass the suits. He can't say he's happy if he's unhappy because the players will know otherwise. A good question would be what is the target for this season[/p][/quote]With all due respect the notion of screening attendees is ridiculous. The club will recognise a handful of well known fans e.g "Attila The Stockbroker" who will ask awkward questions if required but they will have faces of hardly any past "awkward questioners" matched up to names. The club has far better things to do than rig the ticket allocations for this, I'm sure, and besides if Attila were to have an early enough application to attend refused there'd be a fuss caused anyway. Pte, do you like Oliver Stone movies and UFO conventions by any chance?![/p][/quote]It's easy to rig it. You simply don't grant a ticket to anyone you don't personally know. If Attila attends he will be completely isolated. If he puts in a difficult question 3 things will happen: 1. He will get no support or dissatisfied mutterings of "rhubarb- rhubarb" amongst the crowd. 2. The panel will give a pat answer and it will be 3 against 1 3. There will be a plant in the audience (not the green leaved kind) that will immediately step in either in support of the panel member or to ask an easy question so the panel can move away from the awkward question You'll know if I'm right or wrong when you listen to the meeting The only chance of an awkward question being asked and then relentlessly pressed (the last bit being most difficult) is if the Argus put a plant in the audience as Naylor and Owen will be too polite to ask difficult questions. That depend on getting then through the door pte
  • Score: 1

9:24pm Mon 4 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Posters who cannot attend the pre-season forum can send an e-mail.
Look on the Seagulls site.
Do some on here just read the Argus.
Posters who cannot attend the pre-season forum can send an e-mail. Look on the Seagulls site. Do some on here just read the Argus. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 3

9:49pm Mon 4 Aug 14

gordongull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Posters who cannot attend the pre-season forum can send an e-mail.
Look on the Seagulls site.
Do some on here just read the Argus.
And awkward e-mails will make it past the recycle bin?
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: Posters who cannot attend the pre-season forum can send an e-mail. Look on the Seagulls site. Do some on here just read the Argus.[/p][/quote]And awkward e-mails will make it past the recycle bin? gordongull
  • Score: -2

10:15pm Mon 4 Aug 14

heshootshescores says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Hmmm, just read the Huddesfield gazette, it would appear the deal for Clayton is far from being a certainty, same with Baldock, and here is the nettle the suits need to think about, other clubs know we have 12 million from players sold in last 8 months, they probably know fans are getting edgy as days pass by, are we in a good position to getting a good deal with 5 days left before kick off?
Tomo night looks likely to be interesting .
If we agree Burke has been on the look out for new players before OG left, why do we assume that can be achieved with 5 days to go?
If Forest are also in for him, which is rumoured, then you know where he will end up.

Like most of the speculation surrounding our supposed transfer targets, this has been dragging on for far too long.

On what little I've seen of him, Clayton looks a decent player, but not sure he is a game-changer.

We've reached the stage where we now need to see a few signatures on paper.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Hmmm, just read the Huddesfield gazette, it would appear the deal for Clayton is far from being a certainty, same with Baldock, and here is the nettle the suits need to think about, other clubs know we have 12 million from players sold in last 8 months, they probably know fans are getting edgy as days pass by, are we in a good position to getting a good deal with 5 days left before kick off? Tomo night looks likely to be interesting . If we agree Burke has been on the look out for new players before OG left, why do we assume that can be achieved with 5 days to go?[/p][/quote]If Forest are also in for him, which is rumoured, then you know where he will end up. Like most of the speculation surrounding our supposed transfer targets, this has been dragging on for far too long. On what little I've seen of him, Clayton looks a decent player, but not sure he is a game-changer. We've reached the stage where we now need to see a few signatures on paper. heshootshescores
  • Score: 1

10:25pm Mon 4 Aug 14

gordongull says...

heshootshescores wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Hmmm, just read the Huddesfield gazette, it would appear the deal for Clayton is far from being a certainty, same with Baldock, and here is the nettle the suits need to think about, other clubs know we have 12 million from players sold in last 8 months, they probably know fans are getting edgy as days pass by, are we in a good position to getting a good deal with 5 days left before kick off?
Tomo night looks likely to be interesting .
If we agree Burke has been on the look out for new players before OG left, why do we assume that can be achieved with 5 days to go?
If Forest are also in for him, which is rumoured, then you know where he will end up.

Like most of the speculation surrounding our supposed transfer targets, this has been dragging on for far too long.

On what little I've seen of him, Clayton looks a decent player, but not sure he is a game-changer.

We've reached the stage where we now need to see a few signatures on paper.
A little disconcerting when your new manager introduces himself as Psycho.
[quote][p][bold]heshootshescores[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Hmmm, just read the Huddesfield gazette, it would appear the deal for Clayton is far from being a certainty, same with Baldock, and here is the nettle the suits need to think about, other clubs know we have 12 million from players sold in last 8 months, they probably know fans are getting edgy as days pass by, are we in a good position to getting a good deal with 5 days left before kick off? Tomo night looks likely to be interesting . If we agree Burke has been on the look out for new players before OG left, why do we assume that can be achieved with 5 days to go?[/p][/quote]If Forest are also in for him, which is rumoured, then you know where he will end up. Like most of the speculation surrounding our supposed transfer targets, this has been dragging on for far too long. On what little I've seen of him, Clayton looks a decent player, but not sure he is a game-changer. We've reached the stage where we now need to see a few signatures on paper.[/p][/quote]A little disconcerting when your new manager introduces himself as Psycho. gordongull
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Mon 4 Aug 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Sky Sports are reporting that Brostol City are say that the bids for Baldock have been, 'derisory,' and that the player seems happy there.
Of course Baldock is happy to stay at BC especially if there's not much on his contract and he goes on a Bosman.

I don't know if it's the case with him but I think it is with Clayton.

If either of these players are on less than a year it suits them to stay but not their clubs. Brighton let go of Barnes for 500k and had to let go of Bennett for about 1m. If they offer 1.5-2m it would be hard for any club to turn that down and see them go on a Bosman. But are they worth that?

If BHA have offered more than Boro there's no need to offer any more
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports are reporting that Brostol City are say that the bids for Baldock have been, 'derisory,' and that the player seems happy there.[/p][/quote]Of course Baldock is happy to stay at BC especially if there's not much on his contract and he goes on a Bosman. I don't know if it's the case with him but I think it is with Clayton. If either of these players are on less than a year it suits them to stay but not their clubs. Brighton let go of Barnes for 500k and had to let go of Bennett for about 1m. If they offer 1.5-2m it would be hard for any club to turn that down and see them go on a Bosman. But are they worth that? If BHA have offered more than Boro there's no need to offer any more pte
  • Score: -1

11:14pm Mon 4 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Sky Sports are reporting that Brostol City are say that the bids for Baldock have been, 'derisory,' and that the player seems happy there.
Of course Baldock is happy to stay at BC especially if there's not much on his contract and he goes on a Bosman.

I don't know if it's the case with him but I think it is with Clayton.

If either of these players are on less than a year it suits them to stay but not their clubs. Brighton let go of Barnes for 500k and had to let go of Bennett for about 1m. If they offer 1.5-2m it would be hard for any club to turn that down and see them go on a Bosman. But are they worth that?

If BHA have offered more than Boro there's no need to offer any more
assuming that after what Boro offered, our bigger offer is considered high enough by his club to encourage them to sell. If neither club are close to the valuation, then neither get him.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports are reporting that Brostol City are say that the bids for Baldock have been, 'derisory,' and that the player seems happy there.[/p][/quote]Of course Baldock is happy to stay at BC especially if there's not much on his contract and he goes on a Bosman. I don't know if it's the case with him but I think it is with Clayton. If either of these players are on less than a year it suits them to stay but not their clubs. Brighton let go of Barnes for 500k and had to let go of Bennett for about 1m. If they offer 1.5-2m it would be hard for any club to turn that down and see them go on a Bosman. But are they worth that? If BHA have offered more than Boro there's no need to offer any more[/p][/quote]assuming that after what Boro offered, our bigger offer is considered high enough by his club to encourage them to sell. If neither club are close to the valuation, then neither get him. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

12:02am Tue 5 Aug 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Sky Sports are reporting that Brostol City are say that the bids for Baldock have been, 'derisory,' and that the player seems happy there.
Of course Baldock is happy to stay at BC especially if there's not much on his contract and he goes on a Bosman.

I don't know if it's the case with him but I think it is with Clayton.

If either of these players are on less than a year it suits them to stay but not their clubs. Brighton let go of Barnes for 500k and had to let go of Bennett for about 1m. If they offer 1.5-2m it would be hard for any club to turn that down and see them go on a Bosman. But are they worth that?

If BHA have offered more than Boro there's no need to offer any more
assuming that after what Boro offered, our bigger offer is considered high enough by his club to encourage them to sell. If neither club are close to the valuation, then neither get him.
Then the selling club loses 1m plus on a potential sale if he eventually goes on a Bosman. If Brighton weren't willing to let that happen with Barnes and sold for 500k then other clubs should have the same attitude with their players. Unless you think that BHA should have told Burnley to shove their "derisory" offer

No if Boro think he's worth X and BHA have offered more, then if that's not enough they should walk away instead of paying over the odds.

It may well be that despite the stated losses, other clubs will look at the gates and think they can get more from moneybags Brighton.

It might be that BHA will have to be patient and develop it's own players or only buy when a club is desperate to sell rather than gain the reputation of being willing to pay over the odds
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports are reporting that Brostol City are say that the bids for Baldock have been, 'derisory,' and that the player seems happy there.[/p][/quote]Of course Baldock is happy to stay at BC especially if there's not much on his contract and he goes on a Bosman. I don't know if it's the case with him but I think it is with Clayton. If either of these players are on less than a year it suits them to stay but not their clubs. Brighton let go of Barnes for 500k and had to let go of Bennett for about 1m. If they offer 1.5-2m it would be hard for any club to turn that down and see them go on a Bosman. But are they worth that? If BHA have offered more than Boro there's no need to offer any more[/p][/quote]assuming that after what Boro offered, our bigger offer is considered high enough by his club to encourage them to sell. If neither club are close to the valuation, then neither get him.[/p][/quote]Then the selling club loses 1m plus on a potential sale if he eventually goes on a Bosman. If Brighton weren't willing to let that happen with Barnes and sold for 500k then other clubs should have the same attitude with their players. Unless you think that BHA should have told Burnley to shove their "derisory" offer No if Boro think he's worth X and BHA have offered more, then if that's not enough they should walk away instead of paying over the odds. It may well be that despite the stated losses, other clubs will look at the gates and think they can get more from moneybags Brighton. It might be that BHA will have to be patient and develop it's own players or only buy when a club is desperate to sell rather than gain the reputation of being willing to pay over the odds pte
  • Score: 0

12:07am Tue 5 Aug 14

pte says...

BTW prematurely leaking that a deal is virtually done may be a way of unsettling the player. So if it doesn't go through you can't blame BHA for trying!
BTW prematurely leaking that a deal is virtually done may be a way of unsettling the player. So if it doesn't go through you can't blame BHA for trying! pte
  • Score: -1

6:08am Tue 5 Aug 14

tug509 says...

So much for bloody ffp making the market an easier more fluent and less expensive free for all ,all it has succeeded in doing is create a bigger gap between those who adhere to it, and those who don't care about it and do as they please with apparent impunity .
So much for bloody ffp making the market an easier more fluent and less expensive free for all ,all it has succeeded in doing is create a bigger gap between those who adhere to it, and those who don't care about it and do as they please with apparent impunity . tug509
  • Score: 1

10:13am Tue 5 Aug 14

pte says...

tug509 wrote:
So much for bloody ffp making the market an easier more fluent and less expensive free for all ,all it has succeeded in doing is create a bigger gap between those who adhere to it, and those who don't care about it and do as they please with apparent impunity .
Instead of chairman only being allowed to inject 8m in any one year they should be allowed to inject the equivalent of a parachute payment since half the teams are on parachute payments. A club can go temporarily over budget in one year as long as they balance it in the next year. All businesses do it and can provided they have the assets to cover it.

But Derby came close operating within FFP so its not hopeless
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So much for bloody ffp making the market an easier more fluent and less expensive free for all ,all it has succeeded in doing is create a bigger gap between those who adhere to it, and those who don't care about it and do as they please with apparent impunity .[/p][/quote]Instead of chairman only being allowed to inject 8m in any one year they should be allowed to inject the equivalent of a parachute payment since half the teams are on parachute payments. A club can go temporarily over budget in one year as long as they balance it in the next year. All businesses do it and can provided they have the assets to cover it. But Derby came close operating within FFP so its not hopeless pte
  • Score: 2

11:39am Tue 5 Aug 14

gordongull says...

pte wrote:
tug509 wrote:
So much for bloody ffp making the market an easier more fluent and less expensive free for all ,all it has succeeded in doing is create a bigger gap between those who adhere to it, and those who don't care about it and do as they please with apparent impunity .
Instead of chairman only being allowed to inject 8m in any one year they should be allowed to inject the equivalent of a parachute payment since half the teams are on parachute payments. A club can go temporarily over budget in one year as long as they balance it in the next year. All businesses do it and can provided they have the assets to cover it.

But Derby came close operating within FFP so its not hopeless
Last season, a club owner was allowed to inject equity of £5m to cover losses between £3m, and the permitted £8m. That amount reduces even further this season.
At the meeting of all 24 Championship Clubs in May, one of the proposals was to increase the permitted losses as you suggest, pte, but the changes were rejected, when they failed to get 75% of the vote.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: So much for bloody ffp making the market an easier more fluent and less expensive free for all ,all it has succeeded in doing is create a bigger gap between those who adhere to it, and those who don't care about it and do as they please with apparent impunity .[/p][/quote]Instead of chairman only being allowed to inject 8m in any one year they should be allowed to inject the equivalent of a parachute payment since half the teams are on parachute payments. A club can go temporarily over budget in one year as long as they balance it in the next year. All businesses do it and can provided they have the assets to cover it. But Derby came close operating within FFP so its not hopeless[/p][/quote]Last season, a club owner was allowed to inject equity of £5m to cover losses between £3m, and the permitted £8m. That amount reduces even further this season. At the meeting of all 24 Championship Clubs in May, one of the proposals was to increase the permitted losses as you suggest, pte, but the changes were rejected, when they failed to get 75% of the vote. gordongull
  • Score: 1

11:50am Tue 5 Aug 14

gordongull says...

gordongull wrote:
heshootshescores wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Hmmm, just read the Huddesfield gazette, it would appear the deal for Clayton is far from being a certainty, same with Baldock, and here is the nettle the suits need to think about, other clubs know we have 12 million from players sold in last 8 months, they probably know fans are getting edgy as days pass by, are we in a good position to getting a good deal with 5 days left before kick off?
Tomo night looks likely to be interesting .
If we agree Burke has been on the look out for new players before OG left, why do we assume that can be achieved with 5 days to go?
If Forest are also in for him, which is rumoured, then you know where he will end up.

Like most of the speculation surrounding our supposed transfer targets, this has been dragging on for far too long.

On what little I've seen of him, Clayton looks a decent player, but not sure he is a game-changer.

We've reached the stage where we now need to see a few signatures on paper.
A little disconcerting when your new manager introduces himself as Psycho.
(Psycho was Stuart Pearce's nickname as a player, in case anyone didn't know.)
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]heshootshescores[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Hmmm, just read the Huddesfield gazette, it would appear the deal for Clayton is far from being a certainty, same with Baldock, and here is the nettle the suits need to think about, other clubs know we have 12 million from players sold in last 8 months, they probably know fans are getting edgy as days pass by, are we in a good position to getting a good deal with 5 days left before kick off? Tomo night looks likely to be interesting . If we agree Burke has been on the look out for new players before OG left, why do we assume that can be achieved with 5 days to go?[/p][/quote]If Forest are also in for him, which is rumoured, then you know where he will end up. Like most of the speculation surrounding our supposed transfer targets, this has been dragging on for far too long. On what little I've seen of him, Clayton looks a decent player, but not sure he is a game-changer. We've reached the stage where we now need to see a few signatures on paper.[/p][/quote]A little disconcerting when your new manager introduces himself as Psycho.[/p][/quote](Psycho was Stuart Pearce's nickname as a player, in case anyone didn't know.) gordongull
  • Score: 0

1:22pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Peteinblack says...

Clayton now signing for Middlesbro @ £1.5 million.

I despair.
Clayton now signing for Middlesbro @ £1.5 million. I despair. Peteinblack
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

pte wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
pte wrote:
To attend the forum you have to apply through the club. My guess is that the club has pre selected the attendees to those who are known and trusted not to ask awkward questions or if they do, will not press with follow up questions that highlight any inconsistencies. To show it's not cooked up they will allow a few difficult questions knowing they have a few pat answers that will go unchallenged.

So the chances of MBTS or Minefield Sweeper slipping in are remote

If they do get in it's pointless asking the suits difficult questions as they will have all the answers ready. But if you ask Sami if the targets that go back 12 months when we were playing a different style are now his preferred targets he might inadvertently embarrass the suits. He can't say he's happy if he's unhappy because the players will know otherwise.

A good question would be what is the target for this season
With all due respect the notion of screening attendees is ridiculous. The club will recognise a handful of well known fans e.g "Attila The Stockbroker" who will ask awkward questions if required but they will have faces of hardly any past "awkward questioners" matched up to names.

The club has far better things to do than rig the ticket allocations for this, I'm sure, and besides if Attila were to have an early enough application to attend refused there'd be a fuss caused anyway.

Pte, do you like Oliver Stone movies and UFO conventions by any chance?!
It's easy to rig it. You simply don't grant a ticket to anyone you don't personally know.

If Attila attends he will be completely isolated. If he puts in a difficult question 3 things will happen:

1. He will get no support or dissatisfied mutterings of "rhubarb- rhubarb" amongst the crowd.

2. The panel will give a pat answer and it will be 3 against 1

3. There will be a plant in the audience (not the green leaved kind) that will immediately step in either in support of the panel member or to ask an easy question so the panel can move away from the awkward question

You'll know if I'm right or wrong when you listen to the meeting

The only chance of an awkward question being asked and then relentlessly pressed (the last bit being most difficult) is if the Argus put a plant in the audience as Naylor and Owen will be too polite to ask difficult questions. That depend on getting then through the door
Well there have been awkward questions (some off the mark tbh) at every forum I've ever attended. Besides it's not "sold out" so they would look pretty bad declining applications.

I have found the club to be as open as is reasonable on each occasion I've attended such an event.

Declining a number of unknowns i.e potential dissenters as you suggest would cause a far greater problem for the club as it would create major ill-feeling, dissent and a far more vocal outcry at games, on phone ins and on comments boards such as here and the far busier NSC. The club would know this if they were ever stupid enough to contemplate it in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: To attend the forum you have to apply through the club. My guess is that the club has pre selected the attendees to those who are known and trusted not to ask awkward questions or if they do, will not press with follow up questions that highlight any inconsistencies. To show it's not cooked up they will allow a few difficult questions knowing they have a few pat answers that will go unchallenged. So the chances of MBTS or Minefield Sweeper slipping in are remote If they do get in it's pointless asking the suits difficult questions as they will have all the answers ready. But if you ask Sami if the targets that go back 12 months when we were playing a different style are now his preferred targets he might inadvertently embarrass the suits. He can't say he's happy if he's unhappy because the players will know otherwise. A good question would be what is the target for this season[/p][/quote]With all due respect the notion of screening attendees is ridiculous. The club will recognise a handful of well known fans e.g "Attila The Stockbroker" who will ask awkward questions if required but they will have faces of hardly any past "awkward questioners" matched up to names. The club has far better things to do than rig the ticket allocations for this, I'm sure, and besides if Attila were to have an early enough application to attend refused there'd be a fuss caused anyway. Pte, do you like Oliver Stone movies and UFO conventions by any chance?![/p][/quote]It's easy to rig it. You simply don't grant a ticket to anyone you don't personally know. If Attila attends he will be completely isolated. If he puts in a difficult question 3 things will happen: 1. He will get no support or dissatisfied mutterings of "rhubarb- rhubarb" amongst the crowd. 2. The panel will give a pat answer and it will be 3 against 1 3. There will be a plant in the audience (not the green leaved kind) that will immediately step in either in support of the panel member or to ask an easy question so the panel can move away from the awkward question You'll know if I'm right or wrong when you listen to the meeting The only chance of an awkward question being asked and then relentlessly pressed (the last bit being most difficult) is if the Argus put a plant in the audience as Naylor and Owen will be too polite to ask difficult questions. That depend on getting then through the door[/p][/quote]Well there have been awkward questions (some off the mark tbh) at every forum I've ever attended. Besides it's not "sold out" so they would look pretty bad declining applications. I have found the club to be as open as is reasonable on each occasion I've attended such an event. Declining a number of unknowns i.e potential dissenters as you suggest would cause a far greater problem for the club as it would create major ill-feeling, dissent and a far more vocal outcry at games, on phone ins and on comments boards such as here and the far busier NSC. The club would know this if they were ever stupid enough to contemplate it in the first place. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

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