Greer will be Sami's leader on the pitch

Gordon Greer will skipper Albion again under Sami Hyypia

Gordon Greer will skipper Albion again under Sami Hyypia

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Albion centre-half Gordon Greer has been retained as captain again this season by manager Sami Hyypia.

Greer has held the armband for the last four years since joining the club from Swindon.

Gus Poyet made him skipper, the Glaswegian kept the job under Oscar Garcia last season and Hyypia told fans at last night’s forum Greer will be his leader as well.

Hyypia, former captain of Liverpool, said: “When I came here obviously I didn’t know the players, so now I have been here a little bit more than five weeks I have a better picture of things.

“I think Gordon is very good as a captain. I think it needs to be a leader-type anyway and he is one of the leaders of the team.

“I encourage the younger players to be leaders on the field as well and probably we will still sign some players who have the mentality and quality to be captain of a club but I guess Gordon will stay captain.”

Meanwhile, chief executive Paul Barber has described as “fairly normal” a drop of seven per cent in Albion season ticket holders at the Amex compared to a year ago.

Barber said: “We are about seven per cent down on this time last year so that is a fairly normal number. When I was at Spurs we would usually bank on an eight to 12 per cent churn in any one year.

“The difference in the Premier League clubs is they have got a huge waiting list of fans to back-fill that churn. People die, get sick, break-up in their marriages, move away, get jobs, it’s a whole plethora of reasons why people don’t renew.

“There’s this sort of notion that just because we didn’t get promoted or sometimes that we didn’t score enough goals people say ‘That’s it I’m throwing in my season ticket and never coming again’. Well they are not real fans if they do that, are they?”

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7:59am Wed 6 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Real fans ? We only had 7000 real fans 4 years ago!
I think the world has changed, the vast majority of people want entertainment , a day out, we saw thousands of seats empty each game where season ticket holders simply did not bother, if they don't get enjoyment they won't purchase a ticket , and I think that's the biggest divide between posters on here,
The vast majority want goals, quality players and excitement,
The hard core support would turn up if we played our youth side if barber said this was the way forward.
The tilting point is when we have a dull season, I can't remember one !
Last years football was average, but we were in with a shout,,
There is a massive job not only now but in 12 months time when GG Calderon and co need replacing.
Real fans ? We only had 7000 real fans 4 years ago! I think the world has changed, the vast majority of people want entertainment , a day out, we saw thousands of seats empty each game where season ticket holders simply did not bother, if they don't get enjoyment they won't purchase a ticket , and I think that's the biggest divide between posters on here, The vast majority want goals, quality players and excitement, The hard core support would turn up if we played our youth side if barber said this was the way forward. The tilting point is when we have a dull season, I can't remember one ! Last years football was average, but we were in with a shout,, There is a massive job not only now but in 12 months time when GG Calderon and co need replacing. mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

8:00am Wed 6 Aug 14

the taffster says...

I'm concerned hypia doesn't seem to know enough about players available in the English leagues and is leaving it all to b and b.....who will spend miserly to balance the books....fans will come on sat,but if its crap like it was against saints then they won't and it won't be long before the crowd is under 20k...last nights debate didn't inspire any confidence at all.it seems they're going to wait till the season starts before seeing what's available on loan.on the upside we've signed Chris no Grady for 500k.
I'm concerned hypia doesn't seem to know enough about players available in the English leagues and is leaving it all to b and b.....who will spend miserly to balance the books....fans will come on sat,but if its crap like it was against saints then they won't and it won't be long before the crowd is under 20k...last nights debate didn't inspire any confidence at all.it seems they're going to wait till the season starts before seeing what's available on loan.on the upside we've signed Chris no Grady for 500k. the taffster
  • Score: -1

8:09am Wed 6 Aug 14

Quiterie says...

I really don't understand the explanation for the drop in season ticket sales. It can't be down to 'churn'. Yes, people have died, moved etc, but 12 months ago people would have died & moved. So there would also have been 'churn' in the figure from 12 months ago that we're comparing to.

It sounds to me like this is a real and significant drop in season ticket holders which is a worry. I'm surprised no one challenged Barber on this last night. If Naylor was a decent journalist (which I don't think he is) he would challenge the club on this because it's important to understand what's going on.
I really don't understand the explanation for the drop in season ticket sales. It can't be down to 'churn'. Yes, people have died, moved etc, but 12 months ago people would have died & moved. So there would also have been 'churn' in the figure from 12 months ago that we're comparing to. It sounds to me like this is a real and significant drop in season ticket holders which is a worry. I'm surprised no one challenged Barber on this last night. If Naylor was a decent journalist (which I don't think he is) he would challenge the club on this because it's important to understand what's going on. Quiterie
  • Score: 5

8:41am Wed 6 Aug 14

Withdean-er says...

Greer - he's always be a leader, great passer and natural captain. But as a player, he's getting increasingly slow and caught out of position with barely any pace to recover. I would rather the club had another central defence pairing.

I think the dire home football served up in most home games at the Amex (worst home scoring record in the division over the last 3 years?) and a lack of attacking football at pace .... are the causes of quite few s/t holders giving up. If your travel arrangements are already a pain and have turned a 110 minute sporting event, into a 4 hour plus trip out, the dire football was the catalyst to not renew. This can be addresses by better coaching, tactics, and a squad with pace and power. Hyppia (supported financially by TB ultimately if you disregard the middle men) can achieve this is given a chance.
Greer - he's always be a leader, great passer and natural captain. But as a player, he's getting increasingly slow and caught out of position with barely any pace to recover. I would rather the club had another central defence pairing. I think the dire home football served up in most home games at the Amex (worst home scoring record in the division over the last 3 years?) and a lack of attacking football at pace .... are the causes of quite few s/t holders giving up. If your travel arrangements are already a pain and have turned a 110 minute sporting event, into a 4 hour plus trip out, the dire football was the catalyst to not renew. This can be addresses by better coaching, tactics, and a squad with pace and power. Hyppia (supported financially by TB ultimately if you disregard the middle men) can achieve this is given a chance. Withdean-er
  • Score: 15

8:57am Wed 6 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

Quiterie wrote:
I really don't understand the explanation for the drop in season ticket sales. It can't be down to 'churn'. Yes, people have died, moved etc, but 12 months ago people would have died & moved. So there would also have been 'churn' in the figure from 12 months ago that we're comparing to.

It sounds to me like this is a real and significant drop in season ticket holders which is a worry. I'm surprised no one challenged Barber on this last night. If Naylor was a decent journalist (which I don't think he is) he would challenge the club on this because it's important to understand what's going on.
These guys really are like politicians....cleve
r with their words but misleading.....our season ticket sales are DOWN 7%, that is not "churn". As Barber points out, at Spurs there were always plenty of people waiting to replace those who gave up their tickets, so the number of season ticket holders remained constant, so unless we can get new people to replace the 7% then our income will drop accordingly. I expect this was anticipated, which is why the price of matchday tickets has been kept the same.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I really don't understand the explanation for the drop in season ticket sales. It can't be down to 'churn'. Yes, people have died, moved etc, but 12 months ago people would have died & moved. So there would also have been 'churn' in the figure from 12 months ago that we're comparing to. It sounds to me like this is a real and significant drop in season ticket holders which is a worry. I'm surprised no one challenged Barber on this last night. If Naylor was a decent journalist (which I don't think he is) he would challenge the club on this because it's important to understand what's going on.[/p][/quote]These guys really are like politicians....cleve r with their words but misleading.....our season ticket sales are DOWN 7%, that is not "churn". As Barber points out, at Spurs there were always plenty of people waiting to replace those who gave up their tickets, so the number of season ticket holders remained constant, so unless we can get new people to replace the 7% then our income will drop accordingly. I expect this was anticipated, which is why the price of matchday tickets has been kept the same. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 8

9:17am Wed 6 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I don't see how this churn of 7% drop in sales can be normal. I think this term churn really relates to those dropping out being replaced by those on the waiting list. This 7% drop relates to non renewals not being replaced. I think this is a worrying trend but Mr Barber seems to be relaxed about it. And don't forget it's not just ST sales lost. There's also the merchandise, pies and pints sales lost. Not good. UTA
I don't see how this churn of 7% drop in sales can be normal. I think this term churn really relates to those dropping out being replaced by those on the waiting list. This 7% drop relates to non renewals not being replaced. I think this is a worrying trend but Mr Barber seems to be relaxed about it. And don't forget it's not just ST sales lost. There's also the merchandise, pies and pints sales lost. Not good. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 7

9:58am Wed 6 Aug 14

franckiep says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Real fans ? We only had 7000 real fans 4 years ago!
I think the world has changed, the vast majority of people want entertainment , a day out, we saw thousands of seats empty each game where season ticket holders simply did not bother, if they don't get enjoyment they won't purchase a ticket , and I think that's the biggest divide between posters on here,
The vast majority want goals, quality players and excitement,
The hard core support would turn up if we played our youth side if barber said this was the way forward.
The tilting point is when we have a dull season, I can't remember one !
Last years football was average, but we were in with a shout,,
There is a massive job not only now but in 12 months time when GG Calderon and co need replacing.
I am a tad insulted by your statement about the number of real fans four years ago, have you forgot how many were able to visit a match?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Real fans ? We only had 7000 real fans 4 years ago! I think the world has changed, the vast majority of people want entertainment , a day out, we saw thousands of seats empty each game where season ticket holders simply did not bother, if they don't get enjoyment they won't purchase a ticket , and I think that's the biggest divide between posters on here, The vast majority want goals, quality players and excitement, The hard core support would turn up if we played our youth side if barber said this was the way forward. The tilting point is when we have a dull season, I can't remember one ! Last years football was average, but we were in with a shout,, There is a massive job not only now but in 12 months time when GG Calderon and co need replacing.[/p][/quote]I am a tad insulted by your statement about the number of real fans four years ago, have you forgot how many were able to visit a match? franckiep
  • Score: 8

10:13am Wed 6 Aug 14

Sid East Brighton says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Real fans ? We only had 7000 real fans 4 years ago!
I think the world has changed, the vast majority of people want entertainment , a day out, we saw thousands of seats empty each game where season ticket holders simply did not bother, if they don't get enjoyment they won't purchase a ticket , and I think that's the biggest divide between posters on here,
The vast majority want goals, quality players and excitement,
The hard core support would turn up if we played our youth side if barber said this was the way forward.
The tilting point is when we have a dull season, I can't remember one !
Last years football was average, but we were in with a shout,,
There is a massive job not only now but in 12 months time when GG Calderon and co need replacing.
Totally agree. The hard core will always be there come rain or shine.
Yes we all want promotion & the club to be successful but this must come on the back of entertaining football if the Amex is going to be full for every home game.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Real fans ? We only had 7000 real fans 4 years ago! I think the world has changed, the vast majority of people want entertainment , a day out, we saw thousands of seats empty each game where season ticket holders simply did not bother, if they don't get enjoyment they won't purchase a ticket , and I think that's the biggest divide between posters on here, The vast majority want goals, quality players and excitement, The hard core support would turn up if we played our youth side if barber said this was the way forward. The tilting point is when we have a dull season, I can't remember one ! Last years football was average, but we were in with a shout,, There is a massive job not only now but in 12 months time when GG Calderon and co need replacing.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. The hard core will always be there come rain or shine. Yes we all want promotion & the club to be successful but this must come on the back of entertaining football if the Amex is going to be full for every home game. Sid East Brighton
  • Score: 8

10:23am Wed 6 Aug 14

Clean Sheet says...

Our hard core fan base was 6 or 7,000 5 years ago. To fulfil our ambitions, this needs to be 20,000 now, and rising. So the vast majority are either new, or returning fans. In the '70's we had a hard core of over 20,000, but this dwindled over the 1980's as the club collapsed. So these are new and different times, and the club needs to nurture the new fans so they become properly loyal. This needs investment in the playing staff, and excitement on the pitch. A really difficult balancing act with the FFP rules, but can be done.
Our hard core fan base was 6 or 7,000 5 years ago. To fulfil our ambitions, this needs to be 20,000 now, and rising. So the vast majority are either new, or returning fans. In the '70's we had a hard core of over 20,000, but this dwindled over the 1980's as the club collapsed. So these are new and different times, and the club needs to nurture the new fans so they become properly loyal. This needs investment in the playing staff, and excitement on the pitch. A really difficult balancing act with the FFP rules, but can be done. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 6

10:25am Wed 6 Aug 14

Neville says...

I have posted many times about the fall in season tkts and normally slated by tons of blinkered fans,so now you have it from PB with his ridiculous spin on it.
Finance and awful boring football last season and lack of comms from hierarchy is the core problem.
The next problem will be in March when season ticket renewals kick in,, I know many of the people in and around my area in West lower are most likely to not renew and just going to pick and choose attractive matches.
I also there was no advance warning of food drink price increases,as reiterates comms nil.
Finally what confidence is there in actually getting any targeted players by August,since nothing has happened to anyone we wanted in March,
we are more likely to end up with loanees.
Will be there Sat supporting but keeping a careful watch on transfer activity or not as the case may be.
I have posted many times about the fall in season tkts and normally slated by tons of blinkered fans,so now you have it from PB with his ridiculous spin on it. Finance and awful boring football last season and lack of comms from hierarchy is the core problem. The next problem will be in March when season ticket renewals kick in,, I know many of the people in and around my area in West lower are most likely to not renew and just going to pick and choose attractive matches. I also there was no advance warning of food drink price increases,as reiterates comms nil. Finally what confidence is there in actually getting any targeted players by August,since nothing has happened to anyone we wanted in March, we are more likely to end up with loanees. Will be there Sat supporting but keeping a careful watch on transfer activity or not as the case may be. Neville
  • Score: -1

10:28am Wed 6 Aug 14

Neville says...

Quick point on season tkts many in the lower west where there are no concessions on prices have moved to cheaper areas,saving on average £200. and this is another loss of revenue. I would also like to know how 1901sales are going.
Quick point on season tkts many in the lower west where there are no concessions on prices have moved to cheaper areas,saving on average £200. and this is another loss of revenue. I would also like to know how 1901sales are going. Neville
  • Score: 2

10:30am Wed 6 Aug 14

pannell1 says...

The fans have always been there its in the blood we dont always agree with what going on at the club but hopefully those days have passed i would rather us look to the future than worry about next week can we pay wages like in the past i would loved to see those 3 signings mr nayer decided to mention last week (thanks again) but we move on Up the albion
The fans have always been there its in the blood we dont always agree with what going on at the club but hopefully those days have passed i would rather us look to the future than worry about next week can we pay wages like in the past i would loved to see those 3 signings mr nayer decided to mention last week (thanks again) but we move on Up the albion pannell1
  • Score: 1

11:49am Wed 6 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

On the captaincy point I welcome GG continuing but he ain't no Brian Horton or Tony Grealish and he won't last forever. What we need is 11 leaders on the pitch and Sami hopefully realises this. UTA
On the captaincy point I welcome GG continuing but he ain't no Brian Horton or Tony Grealish and he won't last forever. What we need is 11 leaders on the pitch and Sami hopefully realises this. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 6

12:27pm Wed 6 Aug 14

pannell1 says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
On the captaincy point I welcome GG continuing but he ain't no Brian Horton or Tony Grealish and he won't last forever. What we need is 11 leaders on the pitch and Sami hopefully realises this. UTA
Agreed was it me and lets be honest did gordon only turn up last dozen games last season!
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: On the captaincy point I welcome GG continuing but he ain't no Brian Horton or Tony Grealish and he won't last forever. What we need is 11 leaders on the pitch and Sami hopefully realises this. UTA[/p][/quote]Agreed was it me and lets be honest did gordon only turn up last dozen games last season! pannell1
  • Score: 3

1:00pm Wed 6 Aug 14

rockypaul says...

When I asked this quesion last night about the Captaincy the impresson I got from Sammi was he is happy for Gordon Greer to continue being 'Club captain', but if he got another player in before Aug transfer deadline who in his opinion was a better leader on the field we could see the new player being 'Team Captain', which to me is a good idea as Gordon though having done a good job the last few years is not getting any younger and at times last season didnt look the player he used to be. Many teams have 'Club Captains' & 'Team Captains' which works just as well as just having the one.
When I asked this quesion last night about the Captaincy the impresson I got from Sammi was he is happy for Gordon Greer to continue being 'Club captain', but if he got another player in before Aug transfer deadline who in his opinion was a better leader on the field we could see the new player being 'Team Captain', which to me is a good idea as Gordon though having done a good job the last few years is not getting any younger and at times last season didnt look the player he used to be. Many teams have 'Club Captains' & 'Team Captains' which works just as well as just having the one. rockypaul
  • Score: 9

3:32pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
On the captaincy point I welcome GG continuing but he ain't no Brian Horton or Tony Grealish and he won't last forever. What we need is 11 leaders on the pitch and Sami hopefully realises this. UTA
Indeed. My only concern is will Gordon be good enough to retain a place regularly enough ON MERIT not by means of captaincy status alone, to justify the role? If he is named 'principle captain' with others happily filling the role whenever he's not selected then fine but I wouldn't want to see him keep a better player out purely down to that title.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: On the captaincy point I welcome GG continuing but he ain't no Brian Horton or Tony Grealish and he won't last forever. What we need is 11 leaders on the pitch and Sami hopefully realises this. UTA[/p][/quote]Indeed. My only concern is will Gordon be good enough to retain a place regularly enough ON MERIT not by means of captaincy status alone, to justify the role? If he is named 'principle captain' with others happily filling the role whenever he's not selected then fine but I wouldn't want to see him keep a better player out purely down to that title. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

5:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

You are all correct on comments about churning. Barber must think we have no brains. Yes people die, move out of the area etc. But similarly Parents will start to take their kids to matches who did not last season. People move IN to the area. To retain your fan base not only do you have to win games but have to play attractive football, which means scoring plenty of goals---which i am afraid at present Albion do NOT.
As to Greer--maybe good all round bloke, but Hypia has to keep his eye on others, as has been said, will he retain a regular place in the team this season?? No use really in having a TEAM captain off the field--so the time is fast approaching for another Team captain--IMO
You are all correct on comments about churning. Barber must think we have no brains. Yes people die, move out of the area etc. But similarly Parents will start to take their kids to matches who did not last season. People move IN to the area. To retain your fan base not only do you have to win games but have to play attractive football, which means scoring plenty of goals---which i am afraid at present Albion do NOT. As to Greer--maybe good all round bloke, but Hypia has to keep his eye on others, as has been said, will he retain a regular place in the team this season?? No use really in having a TEAM captain off the field--so the time is fast approaching for another Team captain--IMO mikeygit
  • Score: -3

11:07pm Wed 6 Aug 14

the taffster says...

Sid East Brighton wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Real fans ? We only had 7000 real fans 4 years ago!
I think the world has changed, the vast majority of people want entertainment , a day out, we saw thousands of seats empty each game where season ticket holders simply did not bother, if they don't get enjoyment they won't purchase a ticket , and I think that's the biggest divide between posters on here,
The vast majority want goals, quality players and excitement,
The hard core support would turn up if we played our youth side if barber said this was the way forward.
The tilting point is when we have a dull season, I can't remember one !
Last years football was average, but we were in with a shout,,
There is a massive job not only now but in 12 months time when GG Calderon and co need replacing.
Totally agree. The hard core will always be there come rain or shine.
Yes we all want promotion & the club to be successful but this must come on the back of entertaining football if the Amex is going to be full for every home game.
Last season was as dull as dishwater with Oscar in charge..??playing one. Upfront? What was that al! About,...no wonder ulloa got pd off and went to Leicester... He will score goals with service...something we couldn't provide...
[quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Real fans ? We only had 7000 real fans 4 years ago! I think the world has changed, the vast majority of people want entertainment , a day out, we saw thousands of seats empty each game where season ticket holders simply did not bother, if they don't get enjoyment they won't purchase a ticket , and I think that's the biggest divide between posters on here, The vast majority want goals, quality players and excitement, The hard core support would turn up if we played our youth side if barber said this was the way forward. The tilting point is when we have a dull season, I can't remember one ! Last years football was average, but we were in with a shout,, There is a massive job not only now but in 12 months time when GG Calderon and co need replacing.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. The hard core will always be there come rain or shine. Yes we all want promotion & the club to be successful but this must come on the back of entertaining football if the Amex is going to be full for every home game.[/p][/quote]Last season was as dull as dishwater with Oscar in charge..??playing one. Upfront? What was that al! About,...no wonder ulloa got pd off and went to Leicester... He will score goals with service...something we couldn't provide... the taffster
  • Score: -1

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