Albion target yet to seal move to rivals

Adam Clayton will train with Huddersfield today

Adam Clayton will train with Huddersfield today

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Albion target Adam Clayton's proposed move to Middlesbrough from Huddersfield has yet to be finalised.

Huddersfield manager Mark Robins says Clayton will train with the Terriers today and is expected to be available for their opening game against Bournemouth.

The midfielder was expected to sign for Boro on Tuesday afternoon after a fee rising to a potential £2 million and personal terms had reportedly been agreed.

Clayton's move is thought to hinge on Huddersfield's bid to bring in a replacement and Boro's Jacob Butterfield has been mulling over a potential switch to Yorkshire.

Clayton has been a target for Albion since January, when they had a £1 million bid rejected. They stepped up their interest following the recent £8 million sale of Leo Ulloa to Leicester.

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10:49am Fri 8 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Oh for gods sake and our sakes report on something about The Albion not a club I have no real interest in or a player that looks or seems to look at our club as second best!!!!!
Oh for gods sake and our sakes report on something about The Albion not a club I have no real interest in or a player that looks or seems to look at our club as second best!!!!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 26

10:58am Fri 8 Aug 14

Mossie707 says...

I think the thrust of the article grasps at an extremely remote possibility the deal could fall through and he could come to us. Yeah, right!
I think the thrust of the article grasps at an extremely remote possibility the deal could fall through and he could come to us. Yeah, right! Mossie707
  • Score: 11

11:04am Fri 8 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

I think many are missing the point here.
Presumably the same conditions affecting the deal would have affected our bid as well. Therefore, the replacement for Clayton and swap might have scuppered it as far as we were concerned. Might not have been Albion's fault?
I think many are missing the point here. Presumably the same conditions affecting the deal would have affected our bid as well. Therefore, the replacement for Clayton and swap might have scuppered it as far as we were concerned. Might not have been Albion's fault? Claude Back
  • Score: 8

11:05am Fri 8 Aug 14

rhett butler says...

No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!!
No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!! rhett butler
  • Score: 11

11:08am Fri 8 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

rhett butler wrote:
No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!!
Quite so.
Or as you might say, 'Frankly my dear, I don't give a ****.'
[quote][p][bold]rhett butler[/bold] wrote: No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!![/p][/quote]Quite so. Or as you might say, 'Frankly my dear, I don't give a ****.' Claude Back
  • Score: 11

11:09am Fri 8 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

I cannot believe the Argus censored the word '****'.
In case they do it again...that's dam with an 'n' on the end.
I cannot believe the Argus censored the word '****'. In case they do it again...that's dam with an 'n' on the end. Claude Back
  • Score: 8

11:12am Fri 8 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

Claude Back wrote:
I cannot believe the Argus censored the word '****'.
In case they do it again...that's dam with an 'n' on the end.
Haven't they ever read 'Gone with the wind'?
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe the Argus censored the word '****'. In case they do it again...that's dam with an 'n' on the end.[/p][/quote]Haven't they ever read 'Gone with the wind'? Claude Back
  • Score: 8

11:16am Fri 8 Aug 14

rhett butler says...

Scarlett sends you her love Claude!!!
Scarlett sends you her love Claude!!! rhett butler
  • Score: 11

11:31am Fri 8 Aug 14

gordongull says...

I admire Andy's courage, continuing to write speculative articles about Adam Clayton.
Even says he was ''expected to sign for Boro' on Tuesday''.
That must be journo-speak for 'the deal is off.'
I admire Andy's courage, continuing to write speculative articles about Adam Clayton. Even says he was ''expected to sign for Boro' on Tuesday''. That must be journo-speak for 'the deal is off.' gordongull
  • Score: 5

11:44am Fri 8 Aug 14

pablobrowno says...

Nothing to see here....
Nothing to see here.... pablobrowno
  • Score: 5

11:44am Fri 8 Aug 14

The unwilling Frenchman says...

rhett butler wrote:
No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!!
Totally agree,
What`s happened to the Glen Murray threads ? I believe he IS a realistic replacement.
We have never replaced his skill as a finisher , pure and simple.
To my mind he ranks up there with Ward and Zamora as Albion goal heroes.
On the attacking midfielder, how about Dean Cox ?, Gus got rid because of perceived attitude not ability.
One of the few players to have a career after being released.
We could do a lot worse, he is still dyed in the wool Albion (refused to celebrate after scoring against us ).
I reckon Kaz must start this season, I think he will be our most dangerous player, a the start of the season.
[quote][p][bold]rhett butler[/bold] wrote: No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!![/p][/quote]Totally agree, What`s happened to the Glen Murray threads ? I believe he IS a realistic replacement. We have never replaced his skill as a finisher , pure and simple. To my mind he ranks up there with Ward and Zamora as Albion goal heroes. On the attacking midfielder, how about Dean Cox ?, Gus got rid because of perceived attitude not ability. One of the few players to have a career after being released. We could do a lot worse, he is still dyed in the wool Albion (refused to celebrate after scoring against us ). I reckon Kaz must start this season, I think he will be our most dangerous player, a the start of the season. The unwilling Frenchman
  • Score: 9

11:48am Fri 8 Aug 14

tug509 says...

rhett butler wrote:
Scarlett sends you her love Claude!!!
Brilliant ! lol
[quote][p][bold]rhett butler[/bold] wrote: Scarlett sends you her love Claude!!![/p][/quote]Brilliant ! lol tug509
  • Score: 3

11:49am Fri 8 Aug 14

Tonyuk175 says...

Where's Baldock? Sharpe? The Cardiff striker? Anyone from Liverpool or Germany ? Same old story can't see why we can't buy ANYONE????

Looking forward to tomorrow but it might be a frustrating season ahead! We need players NOW!!!

UTA
Where's Baldock? Sharpe? The Cardiff striker? Anyone from Liverpool or Germany ? Same old story can't see why we can't buy ANYONE???? Looking forward to tomorrow but it might be a frustrating season ahead! We need players NOW!!! UTA Tonyuk175
  • Score: -3

11:51am Fri 8 Aug 14

Brighton Barca says...

Claude Back wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
I cannot believe the Argus censored the word '****'.
In case they do it again...that's dam with an 'n' on the end.
Haven't they ever read 'Gone with the wind'?
quite honestly, i think the censorship department HAS gone with the wind.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe the Argus censored the word '****'. In case they do it again...that's dam with an 'n' on the end.[/p][/quote]Haven't they ever read 'Gone with the wind'?[/p][/quote]quite honestly, i think the censorship department HAS gone with the wind. Brighton Barca
  • Score: 2

11:53am Fri 8 Aug 14

albionfan33 says...

The unwilling Frenchman wrote:
rhett butler wrote:
No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!!
Totally agree,
What`s happened to the Glen Murray threads ? I believe he IS a realistic replacement.
We have never replaced his skill as a finisher , pure and simple.
To my mind he ranks up there with Ward and Zamora as Albion goal heroes.
On the attacking midfielder, how about Dean Cox ?, Gus got rid because of perceived attitude not ability.
One of the few players to have a career after being released.
We could do a lot worse, he is still dyed in the wool Albion (refused to celebrate after scoring against us ).
I reckon Kaz must start this season, I think he will be our most dangerous player, a the start of the season.
kaz has looked one of our better players in pre-season the thing with him is his fitness. if he can play 90 mins for a 5-6 game spell he could be a real game winner for us and if buckley can also stay fit we have the makings for some real pacey quality wingers. which would frighten most full backs in this league and free up space for the likes of crofts and stephens around the edge of the box for more shots/goals woop woop bring it on
[quote][p][bold]The unwilling Frenchman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rhett butler[/bold] wrote: No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!![/p][/quote]Totally agree, What`s happened to the Glen Murray threads ? I believe he IS a realistic replacement. We have never replaced his skill as a finisher , pure and simple. To my mind he ranks up there with Ward and Zamora as Albion goal heroes. On the attacking midfielder, how about Dean Cox ?, Gus got rid because of perceived attitude not ability. One of the few players to have a career after being released. We could do a lot worse, he is still dyed in the wool Albion (refused to celebrate after scoring against us ). I reckon Kaz must start this season, I think he will be our most dangerous player, a the start of the season.[/p][/quote]kaz has looked one of our better players in pre-season the thing with him is his fitness. if he can play 90 mins for a 5-6 game spell he could be a real game winner for us and if buckley can also stay fit we have the makings for some real pacey quality wingers. which would frighten most full backs in this league and free up space for the likes of crofts and stephens around the edge of the box for more shots/goals woop woop bring it on albionfan33
  • Score: 7

11:54am Fri 8 Aug 14

TheAlbionOracle says...

gordongull wrote:
I admire Andy's courage, continuing to write speculative articles about Adam Clayton.
Even says he was ''expected to sign for Boro' on Tuesday''.
That must be journo-speak for 'the deal is off.'
Sounds like a classic case of misunderstanding with regards to the phrase see you next Tuesday.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: I admire Andy's courage, continuing to write speculative articles about Adam Clayton. Even says he was ''expected to sign for Boro' on Tuesday''. That must be journo-speak for 'the deal is off.'[/p][/quote]Sounds like a classic case of misunderstanding with regards to the phrase see you next Tuesday. TheAlbionOracle
  • Score: 2

11:56am Fri 8 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Tonyuk175 wrote:
Where's Baldock? Sharpe? The Cardiff striker? Anyone from Liverpool or Germany ? Same old story can't see why we can't buy ANYONE????

Looking forward to tomorrow but it might be a frustrating season ahead! We need players NOW!!!

UTA
Mason going to Bolton thankfully!
About Clayton...surely we could of offered 1.75 and Kemy! Can't see Augustein playing much for us anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Tonyuk175[/bold] wrote: Where's Baldock? Sharpe? The Cardiff striker? Anyone from Liverpool or Germany ? Same old story can't see why we can't buy ANYONE???? Looking forward to tomorrow but it might be a frustrating season ahead! We need players NOW!!! UTA[/p][/quote]Mason going to Bolton thankfully! About Clayton...surely we could of offered 1.75 and Kemy! Can't see Augustein playing much for us anyway. Conelli98
  • Score: -1

12:01pm Fri 8 Aug 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

The whole Clayton deal reflects our approach with Burke reportedly going up to watch him even after it was mooted he was going to Boro.

It all sounds a bit 'Fred Karno' to me. I think we need some strong forceful characters involved who are football people. Get Mullery involved!
The whole Clayton deal reflects our approach with Burke reportedly going up to watch him even after it was mooted he was going to Boro. It all sounds a bit 'Fred Karno' to me. I think we need some strong forceful characters involved who are football people. Get Mullery involved! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 5

12:06pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Go and get Glen Murray now! And I don't see why we couldn't go and get Adam Clayton as well if there's a hitch with his move to Boro.
Roll on 15.00 hrs tomorrow. UTA
Go and get Glen Murray now! And I don't see why we couldn't go and get Adam Clayton as well if there's a hitch with his move to Boro. Roll on 15.00 hrs tomorrow. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 3

12:13pm Fri 8 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

albionfan33 wrote:
The unwilling Frenchman wrote:
rhett butler wrote:
No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!!
Totally agree,
What`s happened to the Glen Murray threads ? I believe he IS a realistic replacement.
We have never replaced his skill as a finisher , pure and simple.
To my mind he ranks up there with Ward and Zamora as Albion goal heroes.
On the attacking midfielder, how about Dean Cox ?, Gus got rid because of perceived attitude not ability.
One of the few players to have a career after being released.
We could do a lot worse, he is still dyed in the wool Albion (refused to celebrate after scoring against us ).
I reckon Kaz must start this season, I think he will be our most dangerous player, a the start of the season.
kaz has looked one of our better players in pre-season the thing with him is his fitness. if he can play 90 mins for a 5-6 game spell he could be a real game winner for us and if buckley can also stay fit we have the makings for some real pacey quality wingers. which would frighten most full backs in this league and free up space for the likes of crofts and stephens around the edge of the box for more shots/goals woop woop bring it on
If kaz can play 5-6 games in a row for 90 mins asking a lot there mate,
My question is why can't he play week in week out, he's a professional footballer he should be fit enough, big season for him and Buckley this season we need a lot more games out off them than last season, no good to us on the treatment table, I wouldn't be surprised if Buckley has got his initials printed on his table!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The unwilling Frenchman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rhett butler[/bold] wrote: No disrespect to clayton but our top priority is a forward to replace Leo!![/p][/quote]Totally agree, What`s happened to the Glen Murray threads ? I believe he IS a realistic replacement. We have never replaced his skill as a finisher , pure and simple. To my mind he ranks up there with Ward and Zamora as Albion goal heroes. On the attacking midfielder, how about Dean Cox ?, Gus got rid because of perceived attitude not ability. One of the few players to have a career after being released. We could do a lot worse, he is still dyed in the wool Albion (refused to celebrate after scoring against us ). I reckon Kaz must start this season, I think he will be our most dangerous player, a the start of the season.[/p][/quote]kaz has looked one of our better players in pre-season the thing with him is his fitness. if he can play 90 mins for a 5-6 game spell he could be a real game winner for us and if buckley can also stay fit we have the makings for some real pacey quality wingers. which would frighten most full backs in this league and free up space for the likes of crofts and stephens around the edge of the box for more shots/goals woop woop bring it on[/p][/quote]If kaz can play 5-6 games in a row for 90 mins asking a lot there mate, My question is why can't he play week in week out, he's a professional footballer he should be fit enough, big season for him and Buckley this season we need a lot more games out off them than last season, no good to us on the treatment table, I wouldn't be surprised if Buckley has got his initials printed on his table!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

12:20pm Fri 8 Aug 14

arc12 says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Go and get Glen Murray now! And I don't see why we couldn't go and get Adam Clayton as well if there's a hitch with his move to Boro.
Roll on 15.00 hrs tomorrow. UTA
Murray won't be a possibility until the Premiership clubs announce their squad's of 25 at the end of next week. Only then will we know if he is in Palace's plans for this season. That's why I I don't see any activity happening for at least another week with regards to potential signings from Premiership clubs.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Go and get Glen Murray now! And I don't see why we couldn't go and get Adam Clayton as well if there's a hitch with his move to Boro. Roll on 15.00 hrs tomorrow. UTA[/p][/quote]Murray won't be a possibility until the Premiership clubs announce their squad's of 25 at the end of next week. Only then will we know if he is in Palace's plans for this season. That's why I I don't see any activity happening for at least another week with regards to potential signings from Premiership clubs. arc12
  • Score: 5

12:26pm Fri 8 Aug 14

albionfan33 says...

arc12 wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Go and get Glen Murray now! And I don't see why we couldn't go and get Adam Clayton as well if there's a hitch with his move to Boro.
Roll on 15.00 hrs tomorrow. UTA
Murray won't be a possibility until the Premiership clubs announce their squad's of 25 at the end of next week. Only then will we know if he is in Palace's plans for this season. That's why I I don't see any activity happening for at least another week with regards to potential signings from Premiership clubs.
very good point. I guess with our percieved easier start to the season the squad should be good enough for 10 points and with a few prem cast offs that could strengthen us considerably. Get through a tough sept and beded in maybe a po spot could be available
[quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Go and get Glen Murray now! And I don't see why we couldn't go and get Adam Clayton as well if there's a hitch with his move to Boro. Roll on 15.00 hrs tomorrow. UTA[/p][/quote]Murray won't be a possibility until the Premiership clubs announce their squad's of 25 at the end of next week. Only then will we know if he is in Palace's plans for this season. That's why I I don't see any activity happening for at least another week with regards to potential signings from Premiership clubs.[/p][/quote]very good point. I guess with our percieved easier start to the season the squad should be good enough for 10 points and with a few prem cast offs that could strengthen us considerably. Get through a tough sept and beded in maybe a po spot could be available albionfan33
  • Score: 1

12:32pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

Brighton Barca wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
I cannot believe the Argus censored the word '****'.
In case they do it again...that's dam with an 'n' on the end.
Haven't they ever read 'Gone with the wind'?
quite honestly, i think the censorship department HAS gone with the wind.
Gone with the Bin, more like. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Barca[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe the Argus censored the word '****'. In case they do it again...that's dam with an 'n' on the end.[/p][/quote]Haven't they ever read 'Gone with the wind'?[/p][/quote]quite honestly, i think the censorship department HAS gone with the wind.[/p][/quote]Gone with the Bin, more like. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 3

12:43pm Fri 8 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

Interestingly (perhaps not), I was reading the Middlebrough Gazette sports pages on line this morning and they had asked sports journos from all the local papers with Championship sides, to select who they thought had a chance of auto or play offs this season. Whilst most seem to pick the obvious choices for auto promotion i.e. Wigan, Derby, Forest, Norwich, Blackburn, Boro; the guy from the Wolverhampton paper goes for Albion to finish in top two and a fair few reckoned Albion for the top six. Our very own Andy N, not so optimistic, going for Wigan and Derby as top two, with Blackburn, Norwich, Boro and Wolves in play offs. Roll on tomorrow.
Interestingly (perhaps not), I was reading the Middlebrough Gazette sports pages on line this morning and they had asked sports journos from all the local papers with Championship sides, to select who they thought had a chance of auto or play offs this season. Whilst most seem to pick the obvious choices for auto promotion i.e. Wigan, Derby, Forest, Norwich, Blackburn, Boro; the guy from the Wolverhampton paper goes for Albion to finish in top two and a fair few reckoned Albion for the top six. Our very own Andy N, not so optimistic, going for Wigan and Derby as top two, with Blackburn, Norwich, Boro and Wolves in play offs. Roll on tomorrow. dave from bexill
  • Score: 0

12:44pm Fri 8 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Well--Argus--never cease to amaze---no news about BHA so lets write about all the other Championship teams and players we cannot get--nothing like rubbing salt into the wounds??? Hope we win big tomorrow and then AN will have something positive to say--I hope!!
Well--Argus--never cease to amaze---no news about BHA so lets write about all the other Championship teams and players we cannot get--nothing like rubbing salt into the wounds??? Hope we win big tomorrow and then AN will have something positive to say--I hope!! mikeygit
  • Score: 2

1:08pm Fri 8 Aug 14

heathgate says...

I am expecting the usual struggles up front tomorrow, mainly due to the inability of our midfield to get advanced enough to support or even add to our attacking threat. CMS will run about as usual, doing lots of good work, but getting no help. O'Grady is unknown to me, he could bang them in, but sadly I think he may not be dangerous enough. We needed someone like Clayton, Crofts can do it, and Stephens is the new sicknote it seems.
I am expecting the usual struggles up front tomorrow, mainly due to the inability of our midfield to get advanced enough to support or even add to our attacking threat. CMS will run about as usual, doing lots of good work, but getting no help. O'Grady is unknown to me, he could bang them in, but sadly I think he may not be dangerous enough. We needed someone like Clayton, Crofts can do it, and Stephens is the new sicknote it seems. heathgate
  • Score: -9

1:08pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

A lot of people still seem to be expecting a major signing or two, but bloom clearly stated at the forum we have signed our main targets
A lot of people still seem to be expecting a major signing or two, but bloom clearly stated at the forum we have signed our main targets Rougvie Legend
  • Score: -2

1:17pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton.

Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance.

Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?
Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton. Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance. Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet? VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

1:25pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Barry W says...

So Stockdale and o'grady were our main targets according to TB.!!!
So Stockdale and o'grady were our main targets according to TB.!!! Barry W
  • Score: -4

1:38pm Fri 8 Aug 14

kipper12 says...

Rougvie Legend wrote:
A lot of people still seem to be expecting a major signing or two, but bloom clearly stated at the forum we have signed our main targets
i think TB actually said " we have our main targets" ...... as in we have targets we are aiming for !! , not we have signed our main targets
[quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: A lot of people still seem to be expecting a major signing or two, but bloom clearly stated at the forum we have signed our main targets[/p][/quote]i think TB actually said " we have our main targets" ...... as in we have targets we are aiming for !! , not we have signed our main targets kipper12
  • Score: 3

1:44pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

kipper12 wrote:
Rougvie Legend wrote:
A lot of people still seem to be expecting a major signing or two, but bloom clearly stated at the forum we have signed our main targets
i think TB actually said " we have our main targets" ...... as in we have targets we are aiming for !! , not we have signed our main targets
yep, that's how I understood his words.
[quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: A lot of people still seem to be expecting a major signing or two, but bloom clearly stated at the forum we have signed our main targets[/p][/quote]i think TB actually said " we have our main targets" ...... as in we have targets we are aiming for !! , not we have signed our main targets[/p][/quote]yep, that's how I understood his words. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 9

1:53pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Beale32 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
kipper12 wrote:
Rougvie Legend wrote:
A lot of people still seem to be expecting a major signing or two, but bloom clearly stated at the forum we have signed our main targets
i think TB actually said " we have our main targets" ...... as in we have targets we are aiming for !! , not we have signed our main targets
yep, that's how I understood his words.
That's exactly how i understood it. We have our main targets and they are trying to bring them in. Not we have already signed our main targets.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: A lot of people still seem to be expecting a major signing or two, but bloom clearly stated at the forum we have signed our main targets[/p][/quote]i think TB actually said " we have our main targets" ...... as in we have targets we are aiming for !! , not we have signed our main targets[/p][/quote]yep, that's how I understood his words.[/p][/quote]That's exactly how i understood it. We have our main targets and they are trying to bring them in. Not we have already signed our main targets. Beale32
  • Score: 3

1:55pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Beale32 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton.

Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance.

Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?
I believe he is meant to sign today. I read there was a small issue with his medical, which delayed him signing earlier.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton. Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance. Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?[/p][/quote]I believe he is meant to sign today. I read there was a small issue with his medical, which delayed him signing earlier. Beale32
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Beale32 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton.

Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance.

Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?
I believe he is meant to sign today. I read there was a small issue with his medical, which delayed him signing earlier.
thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Beale32[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton. Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance. Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?[/p][/quote]I believe he is meant to sign today. I read there was a small issue with his medical, which delayed him signing earlier.[/p][/quote]thanks. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:19pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?
A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:20pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?
Sorry, I should have said loan, 'option,' not loan, 'target.'
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I should have said loan, 'option,' not loan, 'target.' VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:22pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Yeah having read it again I may have miss understood
Yeah having read it again I may have miss understood Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 3

2:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

On the News Now site there is an article that talks of Clayton playing for Huddersfield tomorrow, seems odd with a deal supposedly so close to being done.
On the News Now site there is an article that talks of Clayton playing for Huddersfield tomorrow, seems odd with a deal supposedly so close to being done. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

3:14pm Fri 8 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?
Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution.
As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal.
A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday.
Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included.
To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:-
1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point
2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans.
3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away.
With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans.
Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?[/p][/quote]Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution. As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal. A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday. Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included. To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:- 1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point 2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans. 3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away. With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans. Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder. Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 1

3:37pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?
Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution.
As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal.
A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday.
Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included.
To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:-
1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point
2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans.
3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away.
With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans.
Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.
I have said several times that I don't like loan deals, I accept that very often they are the way to go, but for me owning is better than borrowing. A side issue of FFP might be that clubs have to borrow rather than buy.

Your first two questions could easily be answered by the club, the answer to the third question could be a combination of the first two.

Target number is four, yes we believe that they are still available. The targets we have are under contract and their clubs, as yet, have not confirmed their availability. Trying to bring in four players takes time as so many things have to fall into place for these deals to go thru.

Simply put, we want four from the prem and they aint ready to get our business done. It's the same each year because we aim high when looking for recruits, but that means we don't always get those we are after.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?[/p][/quote]Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution. As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal. A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday. Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included. To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:- 1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point 2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans. 3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away. With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans. Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder. Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.[/p][/quote]I have said several times that I don't like loan deals, I accept that very often they are the way to go, but for me owning is better than borrowing. A side issue of FFP might be that clubs have to borrow rather than buy. Your first two questions could easily be answered by the club, the answer to the third question could be a combination of the first two. Target number is four, yes we believe that they are still available. The targets we have are under contract and their clubs, as yet, have not confirmed their availability. Trying to bring in four players takes time as so many things have to fall into place for these deals to go thru. Simply put, we want four from the prem and they aint ready to get our business done. It's the same each year because we aim high when looking for recruits, but that means we don't always get those we are after. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

3:50pm Fri 8 Aug 14

daughter-of-manag says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton.

Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance.

Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?
Orlandi signed for Blackpool today, according to Sky.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton. Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance. Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?[/p][/quote]Orlandi signed for Blackpool today, according to Sky. daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 3

3:59pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Zamora251 says...

A few of you might give me the thumbs downs for saying this, but I am sick and tired of this dickwad reporter Andy Naylor from the Argus, this bloke has got his tongue shoved so far up his arse its unreal. All he wants to do is annoy us Albion supporters and tell us that our potential transfer target Adam Clayton has or hasn't yet signed for Middlesbrough, I'm not f*cking interested if he signs for them, I'm only interested if he signs for the Albion, so Andy Naylor stop rubbing our noses in it, otherwise I'm going to come up the Argus offices and punch you in the face, you piece of crap!! This post will probably get deleted!!
A few of you might give me the thumbs downs for saying this, but I am sick and tired of this dickwad reporter Andy Naylor from the Argus, this bloke has got his tongue shoved so far up his arse its unreal. All he wants to do is annoy us Albion supporters and tell us that our potential transfer target Adam Clayton has or hasn't yet signed for Middlesbrough, I'm not f*cking interested if he signs for them, I'm only interested if he signs for the Albion, so Andy Naylor stop rubbing our noses in it, otherwise I'm going to come up the Argus offices and punch you in the face, you piece of crap!! This post will probably get deleted!! Zamora251
  • Score: -5

4:21pm Fri 8 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?
Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution.
As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal.
A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday.
Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included.
To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:-
1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point
2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans.
3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away.
With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans.
Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.
I have said several times that I don't like loan deals, I accept that very often they are the way to go, but for me owning is better than borrowing. A side issue of FFP might be that clubs have to borrow rather than buy.

Your first two questions could easily be answered by the club, the answer to the third question could be a combination of the first two.

Target number is four, yes we believe that they are still available. The targets we have are under contract and their clubs, as yet, have not confirmed their availability. Trying to bring in four players takes time as so many things have to fall into place for these deals to go thru.

Simply put, we want four from the prem and they aint ready to get our business done. It's the same each year because we aim high when looking for recruits, but that means we don't always get those we are after.
Vegas your answers would have served the purpose and given an insight to into the club's strategy and why players are not being signed up before the season kicks off.
But understanding such a strategy would not remove the risk of dropping points potentially at the start of the season with a relatively weakened squad.
Thar of course is the balancing act that TB has to try and achieve whether to wait and hope to get the very best possible players or sign sufficient players to cover the club's needs before the season starts leaving perhaps just the odd one to be recruited later before the Window closes.
Because the 'right' questions were not asked at the Forum we didn't obtain the sort of answer that your example provides. Frustrating.
I guess we might end up having another 4 players being signed on deadline day as we did 2 years ago !
Hopefully Onwards and Upwards.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?[/p][/quote]Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution. As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal. A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday. Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included. To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:- 1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point 2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans. 3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away. With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans. Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder. Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.[/p][/quote]I have said several times that I don't like loan deals, I accept that very often they are the way to go, but for me owning is better than borrowing. A side issue of FFP might be that clubs have to borrow rather than buy. Your first two questions could easily be answered by the club, the answer to the third question could be a combination of the first two. Target number is four, yes we believe that they are still available. The targets we have are under contract and their clubs, as yet, have not confirmed their availability. Trying to bring in four players takes time as so many things have to fall into place for these deals to go thru. Simply put, we want four from the prem and they aint ready to get our business done. It's the same each year because we aim high when looking for recruits, but that means we don't always get those we are after.[/p][/quote]Vegas your answers would have served the purpose and given an insight to into the club's strategy and why players are not being signed up before the season kicks off. But understanding such a strategy would not remove the risk of dropping points potentially at the start of the season with a relatively weakened squad. Thar of course is the balancing act that TB has to try and achieve whether to wait and hope to get the very best possible players or sign sufficient players to cover the club's needs before the season starts leaving perhaps just the odd one to be recruited later before the Window closes. Because the 'right' questions were not asked at the Forum we didn't obtain the sort of answer that your example provides. Frustrating. I guess we might end up having another 4 players being signed on deadline day as we did 2 years ago ! Hopefully Onwards and Upwards. ballantrrae
  • Score: 2

4:31pm Fri 8 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton.

Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance.

Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?
Orlandi signed for Blackpool today, according to Sky.
http://www.blackpool
fc.co.uk/news/articl
e/orlandi-deal-confi
rmed-1813525.aspx

I'm a happy bunnie new season ticket has arrived.
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Naylor appears to be treading steady with this article, after the trio story I don't blame him for doing so. Andy tells us that the Clayton deal is yet to be completed, now we are supposed to speculate, rather than Naylor doing so, that we might still land Clayton. Unless we have a mid field player that we can add to our offer, and I doubt we have, we are out of the running. I guess had we held on to Orlandi we might havre stood a chance. Does anyone know of Orlandi has signed for Blackpool yet?[/p][/quote]Orlandi signed for Blackpool today, according to Sky.[/p][/quote]http://www.blackpool fc.co.uk/news/articl e/orlandi-deal-confi rmed-1813525.aspx I'm a happy bunnie new season ticket has arrived. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 1

4:31pm Fri 8 Aug 14

pte says...

If Clayton is the player Sami wants and there's a chance of nicking him off of Boro for the sake of 250k then do it. A straight 2m no strings logically should do it as Boro are at their limit. Same with Baldock.

I agree with the need to conform to FFP but FFS for a bit extra won't sabotage us and to secure them could make all the difference to our season and no doubt give a shot in the arm to season tickets

We are sitting on 12m and there's no need to be obstinate about it and cut our nose off to spite our face
If Clayton is the player Sami wants and there's a chance of nicking him off of Boro for the sake of 250k then do it. A straight 2m no strings logically should do it as Boro are at their limit. Same with Baldock. I agree with the need to conform to FFP but FFS for a bit extra won't sabotage us and to secure them could make all the difference to our season and no doubt give a shot in the arm to season tickets We are sitting on 12m and there's no need to be obstinate about it and cut our nose off to spite our face pte
  • Score: -1

4:47pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

With Hyypia having a system he wants the team to play, but then he has to accept that he is 3 or 4 players short that might just make that system work, does he play the new system, or just tweak our old one.
Winning our home games is going to be just as important as any season, but winning our first one of the season under Hyypia's charge makes it even more so.

Getting what we can from the matches prior to all the new recruits coming in might be Sami's goal. The tweak maybe no more than 4-4-2, something we rarely did last season, start both O'Grady and CMS and pray for zero injuries up front.
With Hyypia having a system he wants the team to play, but then he has to accept that he is 3 or 4 players short that might just make that system work, does he play the new system, or just tweak our old one. Winning our home games is going to be just as important as any season, but winning our first one of the season under Hyypia's charge makes it even more so. Getting what we can from the matches prior to all the new recruits coming in might be Sami's goal. The tweak maybe no more than 4-4-2, something we rarely did last season, start both O'Grady and CMS and pray for zero injuries up front. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

5:35pm Fri 8 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?
Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution.
As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal.
A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday.
Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included.
To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:-
1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point
2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans.
3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away.
With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans.
Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.
I have said several times that I don't like loan deals, I accept that very often they are the way to go, but for me owning is better than borrowing. A side issue of FFP might be that clubs have to borrow rather than buy.

Your first two questions could easily be answered by the club, the answer to the third question could be a combination of the first two.

Target number is four, yes we believe that they are still available. The targets we have are under contract and their clubs, as yet, have not confirmed their availability. Trying to bring in four players takes time as so many things have to fall into place for these deals to go thru.

Simply put, we want four from the prem and they aint ready to get our business done. It's the same each year because we aim high when looking for recruits, but that means we don't always get those we are after.
You have said the same amount of times you do like loan players.

Sunstroke ???
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?[/p][/quote]Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution. As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal. A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday. Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included. To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:- 1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point 2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans. 3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away. With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans. Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder. Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.[/p][/quote]I have said several times that I don't like loan deals, I accept that very often they are the way to go, but for me owning is better than borrowing. A side issue of FFP might be that clubs have to borrow rather than buy. Your first two questions could easily be answered by the club, the answer to the third question could be a combination of the first two. Target number is four, yes we believe that they are still available. The targets we have are under contract and their clubs, as yet, have not confirmed their availability. Trying to bring in four players takes time as so many things have to fall into place for these deals to go thru. Simply put, we want four from the prem and they aint ready to get our business done. It's the same each year because we aim high when looking for recruits, but that means we don't always get those we are after.[/p][/quote]You have said the same amount of times you do like loan players. Sunstroke ??? don't wanna do it like that
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5:44pm Fri 8 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?
Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution.
As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal.
A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday.
Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included.
To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:-
1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point
2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans.
3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away.
With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans.
Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.
I have said several times that I don't like loan deals, I accept that very often they are the way to go, but for me owning is better than borrowing. A side issue of FFP might be that clubs have to borrow rather than buy.

Your first two questions could easily be answered by the club, the answer to the third question could be a combination of the first two.

Target number is four, yes we believe that they are still available. The targets we have are under contract and their clubs, as yet, have not confirmed their availability. Trying to bring in four players takes time as so many things have to fall into place for these deals to go thru.

Simply put, we want four from the prem and they aint ready to get our business done. It's the same each year because we aim high when looking for recruits, but that means we don't always get those we are after.
You have said the same amount of times you do like loan players.

Sunstroke ???
I am pretty sure that I have never said that I like our club to borrow players, but I have said that there are some players that I would like us to borrow, because it is very obvious that the club will not, and probably can not, buy them.

Given the choice I would prefer us to buy Lingard, I am pretty sure we won't, so now I look for us to borrow him, and I hope we do.
I would prefer the club to borrow players if buying them means that we would fall foul of FFP, but if we could buy them without breaking the rules, then that is best.

Buy if we can, borrow if we can't, better to have them in the squad than not.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A couple of seasons ago I was suggesting on here that Liverpool's young attacking mid-fielder/striker, Adorjan, might be a good fit for us, at age 22 he might still be. A possible laon target?[/p][/quote]Vegas an excellent thought. He might well be a good acquisition either on a permanent deal or a Season long Loan. I am not a fan of shorter term Loans as they can be frustrating witness our getting Conway in on a 93 day one and then losing him just when he was at his most effective for us. Sometimes when a player suffers a long term injury, as Crofts did last season, then signing a player on loan to 'cover' for them is the only solution. As we have discussed before Vegas Liverpool's young winger Ibe would also be worth signing on a season long loan deal. A number of people have expressed their disappointment with the Forum held on Tuesday. Unfortunately the panel were only answering the questions being asked and it is not their fault if a number of them (the questions) were neither penetrative or sufficiently searching. Equally unfortunately in my opinion, the Forum's Chairman did not step in to remedy this either by asking his own questions or by asking more than just the one question that had been emailed in by fans prior to the forum - mainly by fans who could not attend myself included. To illustrate this point here are three questions that could have been asked but were not:- 1). Roughly how many more players are the club hoping to sign before the Transfer Window closes ? I can't see that answering such a query would give anything away. I know TB said a few but that means different things to different people. For example to me that means 4 or 5 but I know that Vegas considers 3 to be the starting point 2). Are most of the Club's main targets still available ? Again I don't see how answering this would reveal our plans. 3). Why does the club consistently delay on signing players in this Window until after the season has started and what is the philosophy behind and advantages of this (perceived) strategy ? Again this doesn't give much away. With the success that the club is having off the pitch and the additional revenue that has been generated by kit sales and in the last 6 months by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and Ulloa I am looking forward to some quality additions to the squad in the next 3 weeks either permanently or on Season long Loans. Personally I would like to see 5 more players signed or 4 as a minimum ie LB, Striker, Winger and Creative Midfielder. Fingers crossed for tomorrow's game, it would be good for SH to start with a win. UTA.[/p][/quote]I have said several times that I don't like loan deals, I accept that very often they are the way to go, but for me owning is better than borrowing. A side issue of FFP might be that clubs have to borrow rather than buy. Your first two questions could easily be answered by the club, the answer to the third question could be a combination of the first two. Target number is four, yes we believe that they are still available. The targets we have are under contract and their clubs, as yet, have not confirmed their availability. Trying to bring in four players takes time as so many things have to fall into place for these deals to go thru. Simply put, we want four from the prem and they aint ready to get our business done. It's the same each year because we aim high when looking for recruits, but that means we don't always get those we are after.[/p][/quote]You have said the same amount of times you do like loan players. Sunstroke ???[/p][/quote]I am pretty sure that I have never said that I like our club to borrow players, but I have said that there are some players that I would like us to borrow, because it is very obvious that the club will not, and probably can not, buy them. Given the choice I would prefer us to buy Lingard, I am pretty sure we won't, so now I look for us to borrow him, and I hope we do. I would prefer the club to borrow players if buying them means that we would fall foul of FFP, but if we could buy them without breaking the rules, then that is best. Buy if we can, borrow if we can't, better to have them in the squad than not. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

11:13pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Zamora251 wrote:
A few of you might give me the thumbs downs for saying this, but I am sick and tired of this dickwad reporter Andy Naylor from the Argus, this bloke has got his tongue shoved so far up his arse its unreal. All he wants to do is annoy us Albion supporters and tell us that our potential transfer target Adam Clayton has or hasn't yet signed for Middlesbrough, I'm not f*cking interested if he signs for them, I'm only interested if he signs for the Albion, so Andy Naylor stop rubbing our noses in it, otherwise I'm going to come up the Argus offices and punch you in the face, you piece of crap!! This post will probably get deleted!!
7hrs and still not deleted! Well done Zamora 251, Claude back got the word **** deleted from his post and you've managed to keep Bottom and carp in yours!
Oh the consistency of our local rag😱
[quote][p][bold]Zamora251[/bold] wrote: A few of you might give me the thumbs downs for saying this, but I am sick and tired of this dickwad reporter Andy Naylor from the Argus, this bloke has got his tongue shoved so far up his arse its unreal. All he wants to do is annoy us Albion supporters and tell us that our potential transfer target Adam Clayton has or hasn't yet signed for Middlesbrough, I'm not f*cking interested if he signs for them, I'm only interested if he signs for the Albion, so Andy Naylor stop rubbing our noses in it, otherwise I'm going to come up the Argus offices and punch you in the face, you piece of crap!! This post will probably get deleted!![/p][/quote]7hrs and still not deleted! Well done Zamora 251, Claude back got the word **** deleted from his post and you've managed to keep Bottom and carp in yours! Oh the consistency of our local rag😱 Conelli98
  • Score: 2

11:19pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Zamora251 wrote:
A few of you might give me the thumbs downs for saying this, but I am sick and tired of this dickwad reporter Andy Naylor from the Argus, this bloke has got his tongue shoved so far up his arse its unreal. All he wants to do is annoy us Albion supporters and tell us that our potential transfer target Adam Clayton has or hasn't yet signed for Middlesbrough, I'm not f*cking interested if he signs for them, I'm only interested if he signs for the Albion, so Andy Naylor stop rubbing our noses in it, otherwise I'm going to come up the Argus offices and punch you in the face, you piece of crap!! This post will probably get deleted!!
7hrs and still not deleted! Well done Zamora 251, Claude back got the word **** deleted from his post and you've managed to keep Bottom and carp in yours!
Oh the consistency of our local rag😱
WHAT....??? Get real Argus👹
You tell us complete carbage every day yet we can't say d~mn!
Complete cods wallop!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zamora251[/bold] wrote: A few of you might give me the thumbs downs for saying this, but I am sick and tired of this dickwad reporter Andy Naylor from the Argus, this bloke has got his tongue shoved so far up his arse its unreal. All he wants to do is annoy us Albion supporters and tell us that our potential transfer target Adam Clayton has or hasn't yet signed for Middlesbrough, I'm not f*cking interested if he signs for them, I'm only interested if he signs for the Albion, so Andy Naylor stop rubbing our noses in it, otherwise I'm going to come up the Argus offices and punch you in the face, you piece of crap!! This post will probably get deleted!![/p][/quote]7hrs and still not deleted! Well done Zamora 251, Claude back got the word **** deleted from his post and you've managed to keep Bottom and carp in yours! Oh the consistency of our local rag😱[/p][/quote]WHAT....??? Get real Argus👹 You tell us complete carbage every day yet we can't say d~mn! Complete cods wallop! Conelli98
  • Score: 2

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