Buckley misses Albion match as Sunderland close in

Sunderland target Will Buckley (right) was not available for selection for Albion tonight.

Sunderland target Will Buckley (right) was not available for selection for Albion tonight.

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Albion winger Will Buckley could be on course for a move to the Premier League with his old boss Gus Poyet at Sunderland after missing Albion's Capital One Cup victory over Cheltenham at the Amex tonight.

Buckley was not in the squad for the Seagulls's 2-0 win against the League Two side.

Manager Sami Hyypia told The Argus afterwards: "He wasn't available for selection."

Asked why, Hyypia said: "I think you'll hear it in a few days."

Hyypia refused to discuss whether Albion have agreed a fee with Sunderland for the sale of Buckley. "I would rather talk about this game," he said. "This is more important for me than any other thing."

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10:25pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Vulture says...

Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club Vulture
  • Score: -39

10:34pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Vulture says...

Please wake up wrote:
Note Poyet only wants Buckley and not the vile lower league rubbish Dunk and JFC.Please say why he is not after them ??????
Because they are both over rated s hit
[quote][p][bold]Please wake up[/bold] wrote: Note Poyet only wants Buckley and not the vile lower league rubbish Dunk and JFC.Please say why he is not after them ??????[/p][/quote]Because they are both over rated s hit Vulture
  • Score: -34

10:39pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

SOLLY MARCH GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON!
SOLLY MARCH GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON! Conelli98
  • Score: -26

10:42pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Piglet1 says...

A good fee for a player with injury concerns which can then help to buy players to strengthen the squad would be acceptable. Wait until first
You know the fee and secondly the end of August to see what the money allows us to do before making ridiculous comments and removing all doubt about your understanding of such matters.
A good fee for a player with injury concerns which can then help to buy players to strengthen the squad would be acceptable. Wait until first You know the fee and secondly the end of August to see what the money allows us to do before making ridiculous comments and removing all doubt about your understanding of such matters. Piglet1
  • Score: 32

10:45pm Tue 12 Aug 14

albionfan33 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
SOLLY MARCH GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON!
got anymore good news??
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: SOLLY MARCH GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON![/p][/quote]got anymore good news?? albionfan33
  • Score: 3

10:47pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

Conelli98 wrote:
SOLLY MARCH GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON!
Yes my friend at Southampton really likes the lad.Plus his family really want him away from Dunk and JFC.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: SOLLY MARCH GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON![/p][/quote]Yes my friend at Southampton really likes the lad.Plus his family really want him away from Dunk and JFC. Please wake up
  • Score: -18

10:48pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Mark Dixon says...

We use to have a squad we could be proud of a couple of seasons ago, all sold off or shown the door.
We use to have a squad we could be proud of a couple of seasons ago, all sold off or shown the door. Mark Dixon
  • Score: 23

10:53pm Tue 12 Aug 14

impose our game gull says...

£14 million in since January and £1 million out? (Stockdale to replace Kuzscak).

With Bridcutt, Buckley, Upson, Orlandi - ball delivery capabilities(?), Barnes (work rate), Kuszcak and of course, Leo all gone, little has come in and it shows.

2 - 0 v Cheltenham - ony one mild header in the first 60 minutes of the match was our only on target, reaches their goalie effort. So, dull. That was without them attacking us. Defence looked solid again.

Lua Lua as a sub - best player by far in MF or upfront. We need more skillset in the team.

It'd be good to see Sami come out and applaud the fans at the end - still, we're all different. But it helps get the fans supporting you and the team, as requested, so worth making that effort. Oscar of course was excellent at that and Gus on and off v good too.

Great to see CMS score - but till then no real sniff.

Lua Lua the only one delivering decently - till then, balls floated in to the area broadly a waste of time as no height.

Much to do - we are £13 million approx up in 7 months and there's 14 working days (little seems to happen at weekends) left of the transfer window and we don't seem to have the Gus capabilty to bring in the targets.

6,000 tonight - by comparison, 16,500 against Gillingham in the first round 3 years ago.

Still, a win is a win. Funny atmosphere/ comical/ comedial amongst much of the crowd this evening - broadly broad for the first 60 minutes - not as dull as Saturday's performance though.

Print at home tickets may be the cheapest way to buy (no booking fee) but as with Saints, blocked again and a nice extra queue for the ticket office - worth sorting/ something about printing twice (which they weren't)

SPEND THE CASH .... CLUB WITH GREAT AMBITIONS ....

UTA!!
£14 million in since January and £1 million out? (Stockdale to replace Kuzscak). With Bridcutt, Buckley, Upson, Orlandi - ball delivery capabilities(?), Barnes (work rate), Kuszcak and of course, Leo all gone, little has come in and it shows. 2 - 0 v Cheltenham - ony one mild header in the first 60 minutes of the match was our only on target, reaches their goalie effort. So, dull. That was without them attacking us. Defence looked solid again. Lua Lua as a sub - best player by far in MF or upfront. We need more skillset in the team. It'd be good to see Sami come out and applaud the fans at the end - still, we're all different. But it helps get the fans supporting you and the team, as requested, so worth making that effort. Oscar of course was excellent at that and Gus on and off v good too. Great to see CMS score - but till then no real sniff. Lua Lua the only one delivering decently - till then, balls floated in to the area broadly a waste of time as no height. Much to do - we are £13 million approx up in 7 months and there's 14 working days (little seems to happen at weekends) left of the transfer window and we don't seem to have the Gus capabilty to bring in the targets. 6,000 tonight - by comparison, 16,500 against Gillingham in the first round 3 years ago. Still, a win is a win. Funny atmosphere/ comical/ comedial amongst much of the crowd this evening - broadly broad for the first 60 minutes - not as dull as Saturday's performance though. Print at home tickets may be the cheapest way to buy (no booking fee) but as with Saints, blocked again and a nice extra queue for the ticket office - worth sorting/ something about printing twice (which they weren't) SPEND THE CASH .... CLUB WITH GREAT AMBITIONS .... UTA!! impose our game gull
  • Score: 18

10:59pm Tue 12 Aug 14

heshootshescores says...

That's the spine of the team gone then...TK, Upson, Bridders, Leo and Buckers. They were our five "quality" players last season...the type of players you build a team around.

So far, we have seen one "quality" replacement arrive – Stockdale.

I'm not devastated by the departure of Buckers – he's a great player on his day, but his day only comes four or five times a season.

What I am upset about though is the club letting these players go BEFORE they have lined up (or signed) suitable replacements. It's a massive ****-up by the three wise Bs, and nobody can tell me otherwise.
That's the spine of the team gone then...TK, Upson, Bridders, Leo and Buckers. They were our five "quality" players last season...the type of players you build a team around. So far, we have seen one "quality" replacement arrive – Stockdale. I'm not devastated by the departure of Buckers – he's a great player on his day, but his day only comes four or five times a season. What I am upset about though is the club letting these players go BEFORE they have lined up (or signed) suitable replacements. It's a massive ****-up by the three wise Bs, and nobody can tell me otherwise. heshootshescores
  • Score: 17

11:00pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Clean Sheet says...

Vulture wrote:
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Vulture[/bold] wrote: Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club[/p][/quote]So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 19

11:01pm Tue 12 Aug 14

The Phantom says...

Mark Dixon wrote:
We use to have a squad we could be proud of a couple of seasons ago, all sold off or shown the door.
Yes, despite some comments to the contrary on here over the last few years there was always good competition for places with players with a varying range of talents. Now, with the exception Lua Lua we lack pace, lack guile throughout (oh for the days of Vicente, Orlandi and Spanish Dave) and we have limited quality at the top end of the pitch. Am a bit surprised that we are losing Buckley to the Premiership - the occasions when he has been "at it" in the last 18 months have been few and far between - his continual injuries seem to have significantly eroded his pace and without it he probably lacks the guile to play at the top level. Just my opinion and if Sunderland want to give us a million + for him that would be reasonable business. We do need to get active in the transfer market now though as the club seems to be losing quite a lot of credibility at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]Mark Dixon[/bold] wrote: We use to have a squad we could be proud of a couple of seasons ago, all sold off or shown the door.[/p][/quote]Yes, despite some comments to the contrary on here over the last few years there was always good competition for places with players with a varying range of talents. Now, with the exception Lua Lua we lack pace, lack guile throughout (oh for the days of Vicente, Orlandi and Spanish Dave) and we have limited quality at the top end of the pitch. Am a bit surprised that we are losing Buckley to the Premiership - the occasions when he has been "at it" in the last 18 months have been few and far between - his continual injuries seem to have significantly eroded his pace and without it he probably lacks the guile to play at the top level. Just my opinion and if Sunderland want to give us a million + for him that would be reasonable business. We do need to get active in the transfer market now though as the club seems to be losing quite a lot of credibility at the moment. The Phantom
  • Score: 26

11:11pm Tue 12 Aug 14

mark5 says...

Is it just me, or is this forum rapidly becoming a panacea for Trolling............
..................?!
!

This is a welcome win, not because it is a particularly good one, but because it prevents the terrible feeding frenzy that would ensue if we did lose! Let's face it, our recent records in these competitions would suggest that we should lose, so I am thankful that the result was favourable in more ways than one! With Buckley likely off, the door will, I am sure open and some decent signings will walk through it an then we can all start to enjoy the season. UTA!
Is it just me, or is this forum rapidly becoming a panacea for Trolling............ ..................?! ! This is a welcome win, not because it is a particularly good one, but because it prevents the terrible feeding frenzy that would ensue if we did lose! Let's face it, our recent records in these competitions would suggest that we should lose, so I am thankful that the result was favourable in more ways than one! With Buckley likely off, the door will, I am sure open and some decent signings will walk through it an then we can all start to enjoy the season. UTA! mark5
  • Score: 26

11:26pm Tue 12 Aug 14

stevebh says...

mark5 wrote:
Is it just me, or is this forum rapidly becoming a panacea for Trolling............

..................?!

!

This is a welcome win, not because it is a particularly good one, but because it prevents the terrible feeding frenzy that would ensue if we did lose! Let's face it, our recent records in these competitions would suggest that we should lose, so I am thankful that the result was favourable in more ways than one! With Buckley likely off, the door will, I am sure open and some decent signings will walk through it an then we can all start to enjoy the season. UTA!
Decent win.......what division are Cheltenham in again......I can't wait for this magical door to open for all these magical signings to walk through .....we have cash to spend but seem reluctant to do so......still 2 weeks to transfer window closing.......so live in hope.....everyone buying it seems but us ....
[quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: Is it just me, or is this forum rapidly becoming a panacea for Trolling............ ..................?! ! This is a welcome win, not because it is a particularly good one, but because it prevents the terrible feeding frenzy that would ensue if we did lose! Let's face it, our recent records in these competitions would suggest that we should lose, so I am thankful that the result was favourable in more ways than one! With Buckley likely off, the door will, I am sure open and some decent signings will walk through it an then we can all start to enjoy the season. UTA![/p][/quote]Decent win.......what division are Cheltenham in again......I can't wait for this magical door to open for all these magical signings to walk through .....we have cash to spend but seem reluctant to do so......still 2 weeks to transfer window closing.......so live in hope.....everyone buying it seems but us .... stevebh
  • Score: -5

11:52pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Zamora251 says...

This is getting ridiculous now, Brighton have received almost 13 million for players since January and not brought anyone decent, Tony Bloom sort your f*cking head out and make this squad competitive, like many others I'm am a season ticket holder and pay good money to watch Brighton and am getting very concerned with what the Brighton board are doing with our beloved club, sort it out and sort it out NOW!!!

Up The Albion!!!
This is getting ridiculous now, Brighton have received almost 13 million for players since January and not brought anyone decent, Tony Bloom sort your f*cking head out and make this squad competitive, like many others I'm am a season ticket holder and pay good money to watch Brighton and am getting very concerned with what the Brighton board are doing with our beloved club, sort it out and sort it out NOW!!! Up The Albion!!! Zamora251
  • Score: 11

12:19am Wed 13 Aug 14

the taffster says...

I'm beggining to wish I never bought a season ticket...its for sale 500quid if anyone is interested...
I'm beggining to wish I never bought a season ticket...its for sale 500quid if anyone is interested... the taffster
  • Score: -9

12:29am Wed 13 Aug 14

the taffster says...

Solly march to soton.Buckley to Sunderland and hypia to Huddersfield. Job done...
Solly march to soton.Buckley to Sunderland and hypia to Huddersfield. Job done... the taffster
  • Score: -9

12:56am Wed 13 Aug 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Very concerned. Despite obvious nice to get a win anyone who knows football could see tonight the whole spirit has gone out of the club. There is a horrible apathy from team and supporters which stinks like a death knoll.

No creativity, no excitement and oh dear Sami seems so disheartened in his interviews already. If you think I'm making this up Just go and see his first interviews and see the latest one. He seems beaten already lacking any inspiration and I could well imagine why.

If Buckley AND March really do go it sends a clear message out. They really do want to clean up the BalanceSheet and wipe out the loss for this year which they can do with the players that have been sold. Then they have a very saleable product indeed!

The next two weeks will prove what the real intentions are.

Then the whole package is
Very concerned. Despite obvious nice to get a win anyone who knows football could see tonight the whole spirit has gone out of the club. There is a horrible apathy from team and supporters which stinks like a death knoll. No creativity, no excitement and oh dear Sami seems so disheartened in his interviews already. If you think I'm making this up Just go and see his first interviews and see the latest one. He seems beaten already lacking any inspiration and I could well imagine why. If Buckley AND March really do go it sends a clear message out. They really do want to clean up the BalanceSheet and wipe out the loss for this year which they can do with the players that have been sold. Then they have a very saleable product indeed! The next two weeks will prove what the real intentions are. Then the whole package is WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 12

2:03am Wed 13 Aug 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

The moral in the team that we just about still have must be on a continual downward spiral with every player that departs. Any player of intelligence will see that we don't stand a dogs chance of success with the squad we have today, and it's about to be minus Buckley, and without Crofts for another two games.

The chances of doing well this season are moving from slim to grim very early. Even if four or five quality signings are made in the next week, which is probably very unlikely, it will take time to settle them into the side, and I truly believe it's at least 5 signings of quality we now need. Replacements for Ulloa, Buckley, Ward, Agustien, (who just needs to retire to the lazy farm), and an additional midfielder, hopefully to replace Caskey, and lets not forget we never replaced Bridcutt.

I'm starting to fear the worst for the first 10 leagues games, and if those games pass you by without a decent amount of points in the bag, then the rest of the season just becomes a re-building exercise and a scramble for mid to lower end survival and respectability.

I know we are only one League game in but with two games played against pretty poor opposition, and pretty dire performances thus far, we look like dead certs for a survival battle in this league with the current squad. I dully anticipate some signings, but the quality of them now needs to be even higher than we thought we needed. One or two won't cut it.

Bloom, Barber and Burke ? What a joke they are turning out to be this season. Someone needs to tell them the season is underway and they have fallen asleep at the wheel. Wake up, dust of the condescending attitude toward the fans, and spend some of the cash you so readily reaped.

If anyone didn't understand why Gus and Oscar walked away from these three turkeys I only hope they understand now.

Poor old Sami ?
The moral in the team that we just about still have must be on a continual downward spiral with every player that departs. Any player of intelligence will see that we don't stand a dogs chance of success with the squad we have today, and it's about to be minus Buckley, and without Crofts for another two games. The chances of doing well this season are moving from slim to grim very early. Even if four or five quality signings are made in the next week, which is probably very unlikely, it will take time to settle them into the side, and I truly believe it's at least 5 signings of quality we now need. Replacements for Ulloa, Buckley, Ward, Agustien, (who just needs to retire to the lazy farm), and an additional midfielder, hopefully to replace Caskey, and lets not forget we never replaced Bridcutt. I'm starting to fear the worst for the first 10 leagues games, and if those games pass you by without a decent amount of points in the bag, then the rest of the season just becomes a re-building exercise and a scramble for mid to lower end survival and respectability. I know we are only one League game in but with two games played against pretty poor opposition, and pretty dire performances thus far, we look like dead certs for a survival battle in this league with the current squad. I dully anticipate some signings, but the quality of them now needs to be even higher than we thought we needed. One or two won't cut it. Bloom, Barber and Burke ? What a joke they are turning out to be this season. Someone needs to tell them the season is underway and they have fallen asleep at the wheel. Wake up, dust of the condescending attitude toward the fans, and spend some of the cash you so readily reaped. If anyone didn't understand why Gus and Oscar walked away from these three turkeys I only hope they understand now. Poor old Sami ? PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: 13

2:31am Wed 13 Aug 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

PS- rumours abound that Lee Wallace from Rangers is a target for Brighton, a left side defender/midfielder, slated to be the next captain for Rangers. £1m - £1.5m rated player. Does that mean the end of the prospect of Ward returning. Wallace was Target for Notts Forest last January.
PS- rumours abound that Lee Wallace from Rangers is a target for Brighton, a left side defender/midfielder, slated to be the next captain for Rangers. £1m - £1.5m rated player. Does that mean the end of the prospect of Ward returning. Wallace was Target for Notts Forest last January. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: 2

3:06am Wed 13 Aug 14

Withdean-er says...

There goes my favourite Albion player. Injury prone, but had deceptive pace, quality with the ball and awareness/vision. Brilliant on the counter attack, somthing the Amex Albion have been ponderous at.

Let's hope that this is all leading to some quality coming in by 1st Sept - several players are required: widemen, a creator, a great finisher or two, and full backs. If not, unless Hyppia and his team are miracle coaches, TB has handed Hyppia a relegation squad possibly.
There goes my favourite Albion player. Injury prone, but had deceptive pace, quality with the ball and awareness/vision. Brilliant on the counter attack, somthing the Amex Albion have been ponderous at. Let's hope that this is all leading to some quality coming in by 1st Sept - several players are required: widemen, a creator, a great finisher or two, and full backs. If not, unless Hyppia and his team are miracle coaches, TB has handed Hyppia a relegation squad possibly. Withdean-er
  • Score: 6

4:17am Wed 13 Aug 14

mickage says...

Selling the best players...the beginning of the end for Brighton...again...
Selling the best players...the beginning of the end for Brighton...again... mickage
  • Score: 1

6:36am Wed 13 Aug 14

Peppers I says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
Vulture wrote:
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.
Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vulture[/bold] wrote: Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club[/p][/quote]So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.[/p][/quote]Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase. Peppers I
  • Score: 13

7:56am Wed 13 Aug 14

Beale32 says...

The players that have benn sold/being sold are the same players who have failed to get us into the prem over the last two seasons. Although i dnt think we got a hope in hell now of playoffs this season, i am still confident that we will get players in and have an ok season.

the board are hoping for teams to fail ffp and we can pick up players on the cheap and go for promotion next season.

keep the faith
uta
The players that have benn sold/being sold are the same players who have failed to get us into the prem over the last two seasons. Although i dnt think we got a hope in hell now of playoffs this season, i am still confident that we will get players in and have an ok season. the board are hoping for teams to fail ffp and we can pick up players on the cheap and go for promotion next season. keep the faith uta Beale32
  • Score: 0

8:28am Wed 13 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Ýou will hear in a few days´--says it all Bye Bye Buckley!!
Ýou will hear in a few days´--says it all Bye Bye Buckley!! mikeygit
  • Score: 1

8:39am Wed 13 Aug 14

Withdean-er says...

Peppers I wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Vulture wrote:
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.
Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.
Except:

Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities.

You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.
[quote][p][bold]Peppers I[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vulture[/bold] wrote: Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club[/p][/quote]So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.[/p][/quote]Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.[/p][/quote]Except: Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities. You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling. Withdean-er
  • Score: 1

8:42am Wed 13 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Very concerned. Despite obvious nice to get a win anyone who knows football could see tonight the whole spirit has gone out of the club. There is a horrible apathy from team and supporters which stinks like a death knoll.

No creativity, no excitement and oh dear Sami seems so disheartened in his interviews already. If you think I'm making this up Just go and see his first interviews and see the latest one. He seems beaten already lacking any inspiration and I could well imagine why.

If Buckley AND March really do go it sends a clear message out. They really do want to clean up the BalanceSheet and wipe out the loss for this year which they can do with the players that have been sold. Then they have a very saleable product indeed!

The next two weeks will prove what the real intentions are.

Then the whole package is
Sami's few curt, blunt words in his interview show he is really miffed (polite word). I can't see him staying for long. IS SOLLY REALLY GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON?!! If so, then we are really in trouble. Kaz will be the only quality playmaker left. I just don't know what to think anymore. Help me, someone! I'm slowly going under............
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: Very concerned. Despite obvious nice to get a win anyone who knows football could see tonight the whole spirit has gone out of the club. There is a horrible apathy from team and supporters which stinks like a death knoll. No creativity, no excitement and oh dear Sami seems so disheartened in his interviews already. If you think I'm making this up Just go and see his first interviews and see the latest one. He seems beaten already lacking any inspiration and I could well imagine why. If Buckley AND March really do go it sends a clear message out. They really do want to clean up the BalanceSheet and wipe out the loss for this year which they can do with the players that have been sold. Then they have a very saleable product indeed! The next two weeks will prove what the real intentions are. Then the whole package is[/p][/quote]Sami's few curt, blunt words in his interview show he is really miffed (polite word). I can't see him staying for long. IS SOLLY REALLY GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON?!! If so, then we are really in trouble. Kaz will be the only quality playmaker left. I just don't know what to think anymore. Help me, someone! I'm slowly going under............ Max Ripple
  • Score: 6

8:49am Wed 13 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

Beale32 wrote:
The players that have benn sold/being sold are the same players who have failed to get us into the prem over the last two seasons. Although i dnt think we got a hope in hell now of playoffs this season, i am still confident that we will get players in and have an ok season.

the board are hoping for teams to fail ffp and we can pick up players on the cheap and go for promotion next season.

keep the faith
uta
I'm sorry Beale, but those players got us into the playoffs along with the rest of the squad and they were the most influential parts of that squad. We have NOTHING to replace them.
Rumours of players coming in that we have hardly heard of. Ok, I've heard of Paddy McCourt but only just and I couldn't tell you whether he was any good or not. Did he have good games against us last year? Lee Wallace from Rangers - who he? Any good?
It's a joke.
[quote][p][bold]Beale32[/bold] wrote: The players that have benn sold/being sold are the same players who have failed to get us into the prem over the last two seasons. Although i dnt think we got a hope in hell now of playoffs this season, i am still confident that we will get players in and have an ok season. the board are hoping for teams to fail ffp and we can pick up players on the cheap and go for promotion next season. keep the faith uta[/p][/quote]I'm sorry Beale, but those players got us into the playoffs along with the rest of the squad and they were the most influential parts of that squad. We have NOTHING to replace them. Rumours of players coming in that we have hardly heard of. Ok, I've heard of Paddy McCourt but only just and I couldn't tell you whether he was any good or not. Did he have good games against us last year? Lee Wallace from Rangers - who he? Any good? It's a joke. Max Ripple
  • Score: 4

9:05am Wed 13 Aug 14

Brucie Forsythe says...

Bloom is a business man. Selling some assets to get back some money he invested into the club. The difference with buying players now is that the manager is not involved. My guess is that Burke and co treat player deals like they are buying tipex in bulk. There is probably no selling the club to any player they are trying to get and not offering contracts with incentives. With Gus, Dick Knight and previous managers they really sold the club to players who were more than happy to play at any level. Give control back to the manager for buying players tell burke to concentrate on youth development.
Bloom is a business man. Selling some assets to get back some money he invested into the club. The difference with buying players now is that the manager is not involved. My guess is that Burke and co treat player deals like they are buying tipex in bulk. There is probably no selling the club to any player they are trying to get and not offering contracts with incentives. With Gus, Dick Knight and previous managers they really sold the club to players who were more than happy to play at any level. Give control back to the manager for buying players tell burke to concentrate on youth development. Brucie Forsythe
  • Score: 5

9:34am Wed 13 Aug 14

Ontheline says...

Brucie Forsythe wrote:
Bloom is a business man. Selling some assets to get back some money he invested into the club. The difference with buying players now is that the manager is not involved. My guess is that Burke and co treat player deals like they are buying tipex in bulk. There is probably no selling the club to any player they are trying to get and not offering contracts with incentives. With Gus, Dick Knight and previous managers they really sold the club to players who were more than happy to play at any level. Give control back to the manager for buying players tell burke to concentrate on youth development.
Totally agree, unfortunately football is business and the suits call the shots.
[quote][p][bold]Brucie Forsythe[/bold] wrote: Bloom is a business man. Selling some assets to get back some money he invested into the club. The difference with buying players now is that the manager is not involved. My guess is that Burke and co treat player deals like they are buying tipex in bulk. There is probably no selling the club to any player they are trying to get and not offering contracts with incentives. With Gus, Dick Knight and previous managers they really sold the club to players who were more than happy to play at any level. Give control back to the manager for buying players tell burke to concentrate on youth development.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, unfortunately football is business and the suits call the shots. Ontheline
  • Score: -1

9:35am Wed 13 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

Deal reprised from Jan, I'm told. Was very close at the time. Didn't proceed then as our replacement wasn't a goer.

Is almost certain he'll go now.

Interest in McCourt makes sense as a result.
Deal reprised from Jan, I'm told. Was very close at the time. Didn't proceed then as our replacement wasn't a goer. Is almost certain he'll go now. Interest in McCourt makes sense as a result. Captain Haddock
  • Score: -2

9:48am Wed 13 Aug 14

SonnyJim55 says...

Peppers I wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Vulture wrote:
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.
Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.
Spot on Peppers, I have been making similar points for some time but the blue tinted glass brigade on here wont have a word said against God aka Bloom. Yes he has done good things and the club has benefited. But lets be fair the fans are paying top dollar and have been for some years, even at the dump known as Withdean. So lets stop all this nonsense that he has spent money out of the goodness of his heart, it is an investment pure and simple. Selling time is on the horizon although he needs to hurry up before League 1arrives!
[quote][p][bold]Peppers I[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vulture[/bold] wrote: Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club[/p][/quote]So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.[/p][/quote]Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.[/p][/quote]Spot on Peppers, I have been making similar points for some time but the blue tinted glass brigade on here wont have a word said against God aka Bloom. Yes he has done good things and the club has benefited. But lets be fair the fans are paying top dollar and have been for some years, even at the dump known as Withdean. So lets stop all this nonsense that he has spent money out of the goodness of his heart, it is an investment pure and simple. Selling time is on the horizon although he needs to hurry up before League 1arrives! SonnyJim55
  • Score: 4

9:59am Wed 13 Aug 14

B-hove says...

heshootshescores wrote:
That's the spine of the team gone then...TK, Upson, Bridders, Leo and Buckers. They were our five "quality" players last season...the type of players you build a team around.

So far, we have seen one "quality" replacement arrive – Stockdale.

I'm not devastated by the departure of Buckers – he's a great player on his day, but his day only comes four or five times a season.

What I am upset about though is the club letting these players go BEFORE they have lined up (or signed) suitable replacements. It's a massive ****-up by the three wise Bs, and nobody can tell me otherwise.
Totally agree. It is the end of Gus’s squad. Even the glass overflowing brigade will have difficulty picking the positives out of this one. Not sure about Stockdale. The replacement of talent with journeymen is almost complete.

As Confucius says “Man whose glass is not half-full, needs to get a smaller glass”. Exactly what Barber has done!
[quote][p][bold]heshootshescores[/bold] wrote: That's the spine of the team gone then...TK, Upson, Bridders, Leo and Buckers. They were our five "quality" players last season...the type of players you build a team around. So far, we have seen one "quality" replacement arrive – Stockdale. I'm not devastated by the departure of Buckers – he's a great player on his day, but his day only comes four or five times a season. What I am upset about though is the club letting these players go BEFORE they have lined up (or signed) suitable replacements. It's a massive ****-up by the three wise Bs, and nobody can tell me otherwise.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. It is the end of Gus’s squad. Even the glass overflowing brigade will have difficulty picking the positives out of this one. Not sure about Stockdale. The replacement of talent with journeymen is almost complete. As Confucius says “Man whose glass is not half-full, needs to get a smaller glass”. Exactly what Barber has done! B-hove
  • Score: 2

10:13am Wed 13 Aug 14

daveyboy35 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
SOLLY MARCH GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON!
IF SOLLY MARCH GOES THEN I TRULY GIVE UP WITH THIS CLUB
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: SOLLY MARCH GOING TO SOUTHAMPTON![/p][/quote]IF SOLLY MARCH GOES THEN I TRULY GIVE UP WITH THIS CLUB daveyboy35
  • Score: 1

10:44am Wed 13 Aug 14

Peppers I says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Peppers I wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Vulture wrote:
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.
Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.
Except:

Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities.

You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.
I agree he has put in a great deal there is no getting away from that and it wasn't a criticism of the man. I do take your point re relegation but if we are in the mire at Xmas I think he will spend to keep us up, I am sure that is the plan.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peppers I[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vulture[/bold] wrote: Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club[/p][/quote]So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.[/p][/quote]Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.[/p][/quote]Except: Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities. You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.[/p][/quote]I agree he has put in a great deal there is no getting away from that and it wasn't a criticism of the man. I do take your point re relegation but if we are in the mire at Xmas I think he will spend to keep us up, I am sure that is the plan. Peppers I
  • Score: -3

10:58am Wed 13 Aug 14

pte says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Peppers I wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Vulture wrote:
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.
Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.
Except:

Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities.

You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.
14m pumped in to cover losses may not be true. If the club which does not own the ground (it's owned by a separate company) pays rent then the amount "owed" might be for rent due to TB's other companies.

But as someone else pointed out, comply with FFP now and we will be able to get loads of Bosmans in a years time. Buying players now in an inflated market doesn't make sense provided you have a squad that can stay in the division. You don't buy a house at the top of the market only to see it's value fall. But you sell at the top and buy at the bottom

Things may look completely different in 2 or 3 years time when with hindsight we see the big picture. We have to give 3B's the benefit of the doubt till then
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peppers I[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vulture[/bold] wrote: Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club[/p][/quote]So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.[/p][/quote]Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.[/p][/quote]Except: Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities. You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.[/p][/quote]14m pumped in to cover losses may not be true. If the club which does not own the ground (it's owned by a separate company) pays rent then the amount "owed" might be for rent due to TB's other companies. But as someone else pointed out, comply with FFP now and we will be able to get loads of Bosmans in a years time. Buying players now in an inflated market doesn't make sense provided you have a squad that can stay in the division. You don't buy a house at the top of the market only to see it's value fall. But you sell at the top and buy at the bottom Things may look completely different in 2 or 3 years time when with hindsight we see the big picture. We have to give 3B's the benefit of the doubt till then pte
  • Score: 2

11:08am Wed 13 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Good article on Squawka football news about BHA, sums the situation up perfectly although the blue shaded glasses brigade won't like it
Good article on Squawka football news about BHA, sums the situation up perfectly although the blue shaded glasses brigade won't like it Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 5

11:16am Wed 13 Aug 14

pjwilk says...

pte wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Peppers I wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Vulture wrote:
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.
Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.
Except:

Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities.

You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.
14m pumped in to cover losses may not be true. If the club which does not own the ground (it's owned by a separate company) pays rent then the amount "owed" might be for rent due to TB's other companies.

But as someone else pointed out, comply with FFP now and we will be able to get loads of Bosmans in a years time. Buying players now in an inflated market doesn't make sense provided you have a squad that can stay in the division. You don't buy a house at the top of the market only to see it's value fall. But you sell at the top and buy at the bottom

Things may look completely different in 2 or 3 years time when with hindsight we see the big picture. We have to give 3B's the benefit of the doubt till then
No we cant,if it goes on like this we will be in the Conference,or whatever they call it,average gates 500 - 1500.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peppers I[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vulture[/bold] wrote: Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club[/p][/quote]So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.[/p][/quote]Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.[/p][/quote]Except: Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities. You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.[/p][/quote]14m pumped in to cover losses may not be true. If the club which does not own the ground (it's owned by a separate company) pays rent then the amount "owed" might be for rent due to TB's other companies. But as someone else pointed out, comply with FFP now and we will be able to get loads of Bosmans in a years time. Buying players now in an inflated market doesn't make sense provided you have a squad that can stay in the division. You don't buy a house at the top of the market only to see it's value fall. But you sell at the top and buy at the bottom Things may look completely different in 2 or 3 years time when with hindsight we see the big picture. We have to give 3B's the benefit of the doubt till then[/p][/quote]No we cant,if it goes on like this we will be in the Conference,or whatever they call it,average gates 500 - 1500. pjwilk
  • Score: 4

11:23am Wed 13 Aug 14

Neville says...

PTE
With all good successful businesses the key is communication and repeat business. Unfortunately for the past two seasons certainly there has been a massive shift into FFP and the financial side of things. There has to be a balance with some time and effort being invested in the playing squad which ultimately brings in the crowds.
At the moment it does seem as the club is being asset stripped to make it a viable business proposition without any proactive time spent in recruiting quality players.
Season tickets are high and there has recently been an unannounced hefty price increase in food and drink,not advertised at all.
PB will communicate when he has something to promote or give news that suits the club but otherwise deafening silence.
I am sure there will be some signings but low key and cost effective,so forget any real quality purchases,more likely to be cheaper loanees.
What PB and the board don't seem to realise is that fans don't like to be taken for granted and systematically milked for money. The lower west area was not populated on Saturday and many have moved to cheaper options or cancelled. Come March time many I know are planning to cancel and pick and choose matches.
Unfortunately the demise can be traced back to the arrival of PB,whilst he may be doing a great job in reigning in monies he is part of a hierarchy which is currently taking the heart out of the club and has to take his share of responsibility for the current unhappy state of the club.
Finally I wish SH success but regrettably,like OG there is little or no personality and no rapport with the fans,highlighted by the fact that fans cheered when he deigned to leave his seat after 17 mins last night.
Sad times at present.
PTE With all good successful businesses the key is communication and repeat business. Unfortunately for the past two seasons certainly there has been a massive shift into FFP and the financial side of things. There has to be a balance with some time and effort being invested in the playing squad which ultimately brings in the crowds. At the moment it does seem as the club is being asset stripped to make it a viable business proposition without any proactive time spent in recruiting quality players. Season tickets are high and there has recently been an unannounced hefty price increase in food and drink,not advertised at all. PB will communicate when he has something to promote or give news that suits the club but otherwise deafening silence. I am sure there will be some signings but low key and cost effective,so forget any real quality purchases,more likely to be cheaper loanees. What PB and the board don't seem to realise is that fans don't like to be taken for granted and systematically milked for money. The lower west area was not populated on Saturday and many have moved to cheaper options or cancelled. Come March time many I know are planning to cancel and pick and choose matches. Unfortunately the demise can be traced back to the arrival of PB,whilst he may be doing a great job in reigning in monies he is part of a hierarchy which is currently taking the heart out of the club and has to take his share of responsibility for the current unhappy state of the club. Finally I wish SH success but regrettably,like OG there is little or no personality and no rapport with the fans,highlighted by the fact that fans cheered when he deigned to leave his seat after 17 mins last night. Sad times at present. Neville
  • Score: 4

11:53am Wed 13 Aug 14

Neville says...

Buckley sold 2.5m just broke on sky sports.
Buckley sold 2.5m just broke on sky sports. Neville
  • Score: 2

12:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SonnyJim55 says...

Neville wrote:
Buckley sold 2.5m just broke on sky sports.
That money is winging its way to the 'Not to be used for players' account, a tidy sum building up there
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Buckley sold 2.5m just broke on sky sports.[/p][/quote]That money is winging its way to the 'Not to be used for players' account, a tidy sum building up there SonnyJim55
  • Score: 3

12:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

Rougvie Legend wrote:
Good article on Squawka football news about BHA, sums the situation up perfectly although the blue shaded glasses brigade won't like it
Here it is http://www.squawka.c
om/news/why-brighton
-need-signings-or-th
ey-could-be-in-dange
r-of-championship-re
legation/15668
Definately worth a read and reflects what most of us have been thinking.
[quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: Good article on Squawka football news about BHA, sums the situation up perfectly although the blue shaded glasses brigade won't like it[/p][/quote]Here it is http://www.squawka.c om/news/why-brighton -need-signings-or-th ey-could-be-in-dange r-of-championship-re legation/15668 Definately worth a read and reflects what most of us have been thinking. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 5

12:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Neville says...

Yes just read the article and very balanced summing up.
Yes just read the article and very balanced summing up. Neville
  • Score: 5

12:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

Neville wrote:
Buckley sold 2.5m just broke on sky sports.
Beat me to it Neville.
Sky report that a £2.5 million fee has been agreed.
Lets hope the proceeds are re-invested wisely and quickly in a quality replacement.
I'll be sorry to see the Buckley we saw when he first joined (and the Buckley we saw against Bolton last year) depart. On the other hand, I won't miss the injury prone version or the Buckley we saw on Saturday.
Assuming the deal s completed I wish him well.
Interested to see that McCourt is on trial - he really impressed me at the Barnsley Amex match last season. Good player, right up there with Clayton based on what I have seen of both players No other club to pay a fee to unlike Clayton. Fingers crossed that his trial goes well.
Perhaps he will be the first of the 6 players we now need given Buckley's exit.
Congrats to SH on last nights win. The first victory under a new manager is always important. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Buckley sold 2.5m just broke on sky sports.[/p][/quote]Beat me to it Neville. Sky report that a £2.5 million fee has been agreed. Lets hope the proceeds are re-invested wisely and quickly in a quality replacement. I'll be sorry to see the Buckley we saw when he first joined (and the Buckley we saw against Bolton last year) depart. On the other hand, I won't miss the injury prone version or the Buckley we saw on Saturday. Assuming the deal s completed I wish him well. Interested to see that McCourt is on trial - he really impressed me at the Barnsley Amex match last season. Good player, right up there with Clayton based on what I have seen of both players No other club to pay a fee to unlike Clayton. Fingers crossed that his trial goes well. Perhaps he will be the first of the 6 players we now need given Buckley's exit. Congrats to SH on last nights win. The first victory under a new manager is always important. UTA. ballantrrae
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12:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Neville says...

Surprised no news from Andy Naylor re Buckley or Argus breaking news item,then perhaps not surprising.
Surprised no news from Andy Naylor re Buckley or Argus breaking news item,then perhaps not surprising. Neville
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12:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

pte wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Peppers I wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Vulture wrote:
Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club
So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.
Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.
Except:

Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities.

You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.
14m pumped in to cover losses may not be true. If the club which does not own the ground (it's owned by a separate company) pays rent then the amount "owed" might be for rent due to TB's other companies.

But as someone else pointed out, comply with FFP now and we will be able to get loads of Bosmans in a years time. Buying players now in an inflated market doesn't make sense provided you have a squad that can stay in the division. You don't buy a house at the top of the market only to see it's value fall. But you sell at the top and buy at the bottom

Things may look completely different in 2 or 3 years time when with hindsight we see the big picture. We have to give 3B's the benefit of the doubt till then
Good comments Pte but since TB has said that we should wait until the current Transfer Window closes before passing judgement on the success of our recruiting activity I will do just that ie I will reserve any initial assessment until 2 September.
However I take your point over taking a longer term 'big picture' view in the reality of the FFP World football clubs now live in. I therefore propose to re-assess BHA's transfer situation immediately after the January Window shuts - like you I suspect there might be some bargins available at that time.
Onwards and Upwards with SH.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peppers I[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vulture[/bold] wrote: Bloom is skint and selling players before selling up. Gets his licking squad trolls like captain haddock to do his licking work. **** off Burke and barber ...wish we still had Dick knight at the club[/p][/quote]So you would like us to still be playing at Withdean, in the 3rd or 4th division? Pre Bloom, we were only going one way. Now we have a great future. The club has let a bunch of players go who were not good enough to get us promoted. We can now rebuild with better players and look forward to an even brighter future. UTA.[/p][/quote]Look we all know what TB is up to. Of course we are in a much better position than at the Withdean but now all the money has been spent on Bricks and Mortar he can now sell the family silver in the shape of the players. Let's not keep thinking TB is some amazing messiah and has done all this for the good people of Brighton. He is a successful business man who very soon will be reaping the rewards of his purchase.[/p][/quote]Except: Bloom hasn't just paid for bricks and mortar. He's pumped in up to £14m of his own money, year on year, to cover the vast accounting losses from having a better squad than our income could pay for. That's ever year, on top of > £100m for the Amex and Training/Academy facilities. You could be right, but this current diminishing squad could give us a relegation, which would severely deflated the price someone would pay him for the club. And who's to say we would bounce straight back up? I hope and suspect your theory is wrong. The number and quality of new players brought in by 1st Sept will be telling.[/p][/quote]14m pumped in to cover losses may not be true. If the club which does not own the ground (it's owned by a separate company) pays rent then the amount "owed" might be for rent due to TB's other companies. But as someone else pointed out, comply with FFP now and we will be able to get loads of Bosmans in a years time. Buying players now in an inflated market doesn't make sense provided you have a squad that can stay in the division. You don't buy a house at the top of the market only to see it's value fall. But you sell at the top and buy at the bottom Things may look completely different in 2 or 3 years time when with hindsight we see the big picture. We have to give 3B's the benefit of the doubt till then[/p][/quote]Good comments Pte but since TB has said that we should wait until the current Transfer Window closes before passing judgement on the success of our recruiting activity I will do just that ie I will reserve any initial assessment until 2 September. However I take your point over taking a longer term 'big picture' view in the reality of the FFP World football clubs now live in. I therefore propose to re-assess BHA's transfer situation immediately after the January Window shuts - like you I suspect there might be some bargins available at that time. Onwards and Upwards with SH. ballantrrae
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12:55pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Clean Sheet says...

Max Ripple wrote:
Beale32 wrote:
The players that have benn sold/being sold are the same players who have failed to get us into the prem over the last two seasons. Although i dnt think we got a hope in hell now of playoffs this season, i am still confident that we will get players in and have an ok season.

the board are hoping for teams to fail ffp and we can pick up players on the cheap and go for promotion next season.

keep the faith
uta
I'm sorry Beale, but those players got us into the playoffs along with the rest of the squad and they were the most influential parts of that squad. We have NOTHING to replace them.
Rumours of players coming in that we have hardly heard of. Ok, I've heard of Paddy McCourt but only just and I couldn't tell you whether he was any good or not. Did he have good games against us last year? Lee Wallace from Rangers - who he? Any good?
It's a joke.
Had you heard if Ulloa before he joined us?
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beale32[/bold] wrote: The players that have benn sold/being sold are the same players who have failed to get us into the prem over the last two seasons. Although i dnt think we got a hope in hell now of playoffs this season, i am still confident that we will get players in and have an ok season. the board are hoping for teams to fail ffp and we can pick up players on the cheap and go for promotion next season. keep the faith uta[/p][/quote]I'm sorry Beale, but those players got us into the playoffs along with the rest of the squad and they were the most influential parts of that squad. We have NOTHING to replace them. Rumours of players coming in that we have hardly heard of. Ok, I've heard of Paddy McCourt but only just and I couldn't tell you whether he was any good or not. Did he have good games against us last year? Lee Wallace from Rangers - who he? Any good? It's a joke.[/p][/quote]Had you heard if Ulloa before he joined us? Clean Sheet
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