Buckley deal 'expected today'

Will Buckley in action for Albion

Will Buckley in action for Albion

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Albion star Will Buckley is expected to become a Sunderland player today as a summer of change continues at the Amex.

The Seagulls’ first million-pound man underwent a medical on Wearside after the two clubs reportedly agreed a £2.5 million fee yesterday.

Sources close to the Stadium of Light were last night expecting the deal to be completed within 24 hours.

The move would see Buckley team up again with his former boss Gus Poyet, who took him to Albion from Watford three years ago.

Buckley cost the Seagulls £1 million in a deal which included a sell-on clause handing Watford 15% of any profit from a future sale.

The 24-year-old only featured fleetingly in Albion’s first two games under new boss Sami Hyypia.

But his move is likely to increase calls from supporters for new signings before the current transfer window closes.

Albion target Adam Clayton yesterday completed his move from Huddersfield to Middlesbrough with Jacob Butterfield moving in the opposite direction.

Huddersfield chief executive Nigel Clibbens revealed he received offers from and negotiated with “a number of Championship clubs” but the fact Boro could offer a midfielder in return was “crucial” in securing the deal.

Meanwhile Rangers boss Ally McCoist has spoken out after Albion were linked with his star left-back Lee Wallace by some sources.

McCoist said:“Lee is a very important player to us.

“We’ve had absolutely no contact from Brighton and Hove Albion at all and no, I don’t expect him to go.

“I’d be hopeful as manager of the club that we can keep our best players and Lee certainly falls into that category.”

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5:56am Thu 14 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required. mark by the sea
  • Score: 38

6:06am Thu 14 Aug 14

OzzieGull says...

Perhaps it's time to install telephones at the Amex so that Burke can actually enquire about possible signings. What IS going on? What we are left with hardly inspires confidence of Championship survival yet alone a push for he Premiership - how could we possibly have let so many good players leave without one decent outfield replacement. The last straw would be a Solly March departure - if I didn't live in Australia and could be a season ticket holder I would have to think seriously - is it worth it?
Perhaps it's time to install telephones at the Amex so that Burke can actually enquire about possible signings. What IS going on? What we are left with hardly inspires confidence of Championship survival yet alone a push for he Premiership - how could we possibly have let so many good players leave without one decent outfield replacement. The last straw would be a Solly March departure - if I didn't live in Australia and could be a season ticket holder I would have to think seriously - is it worth it? OzzieGull
  • Score: 15

6:08am Thu 14 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Buckley 2.5 million injury prone or not worth double that, compare that to Long 12 million to Saints, Hull great business and I would say poor business by us to let him go for a low fee,
Up the Albion!!
My first post must off got lost in the system,
Buckley 2.5 million injury prone or not worth double that, compare that to Long 12 million to Saints, Hull great business and I would say poor business by us to let him go for a low fee, Up the Albion!! My first post must off got lost in the system, JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

6:08am Thu 14 Aug 14

MHubbs says...

2.5m is good business for Buckers. For Brighton: "BUSINESS" is the key word!
2.5m is good business for Buckers. For Brighton: "BUSINESS" is the key word! MHubbs
  • Score: 16

6:12am Thu 14 Aug 14

arc12 says...

Nearly the end of another week and still no news regarding imminent signings. I like many would love to know just what is going on behind the scenes and what ultimately the reason is. Starting to think that maybe unbeknown to us things are much worse than anyone realises with the books and maybe the operating losses are so bad we're having to sell the family silver in order to survive. Not even any rumours now doing the rounds!
Nearly the end of another week and still no news regarding imminent signings. I like many would love to know just what is going on behind the scenes and what ultimately the reason is. Starting to think that maybe unbeknown to us things are much worse than anyone realises with the books and maybe the operating losses are so bad we're having to sell the family silver in order to survive. Not even any rumours now doing the rounds! arc12
  • Score: 31

6:25am Thu 14 Aug 14

namgo49 says...

Unfortunately as talented as he us we did not get a decent game out of him last year and thus he will not be missed.

What is of concern is the threadbare squad in general and MBTS's comments are very true. The club have truly underestimated the size of the task in rebuilding the squad and hugely overestimated the impact of the FFP. The DS is threadbare in terms of the power and pace required for this league and the club's reliance upon it as the Plan B just is not going to work.

Interesting to not how few positive posters are coming on here now to support the Club's management .

It would not surprise me if Hyppia walked . Things cannot be how he thought they would be.
Unfortunately as talented as he us we did not get a decent game out of him last year and thus he will not be missed. What is of concern is the threadbare squad in general and MBTS's comments are very true. The club have truly underestimated the size of the task in rebuilding the squad and hugely overestimated the impact of the FFP. The DS is threadbare in terms of the power and pace required for this league and the club's reliance upon it as the Plan B just is not going to work. Interesting to not how few positive posters are coming on here now to support the Club's management . It would not surprise me if Hyppia walked . Things cannot be how he thought they would be. namgo49
  • Score: 37

6:33am Thu 14 Aug 14

saraman says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season. saraman
  • Score: 31

6:34am Thu 14 Aug 14

paul6391 says...

And i thought our days as a selling club were well and truly behind us....oh how wrong i was........relegatio
n dog fight here we come, i think we have more donkeys than blackpool now!!!!!!!
And i thought our days as a selling club were well and truly behind us....oh how wrong i was........relegatio n dog fight here we come, i think we have more donkeys than blackpool now!!!!!!! paul6391
  • Score: -11

6:46am Thu 14 Aug 14

oksouthstander says...

saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
Totally agree "TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers."
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]Totally agree "TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers." oksouthstander
  • Score: 15

6:52am Thu 14 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.
I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 39

6:54am Thu 14 Aug 14

ray23666 says...

Oh dear, there's another song gone for the North Stand.
Soon we will be sing on 2 songs...Albion, Albion & Seeeeaaaaagulls.
That'll sound good when if any news channel televise our games!!!!!!
Oh dear, there's another song gone for the North Stand. Soon we will be sing on 2 songs...Albion, Albion & Seeeeaaaaagulls. That'll sound good when if any news channel televise our games!!!!!! ray23666
  • Score: -1

6:59am Thu 14 Aug 14

Lux2014 says...

This getting beyond a joke.. whilst we are doing some good business in terms of turning a good profit, we have no quality players coming in. Yes the additions are good but they do not compare to what has gone out the door.

What is more alarming is the holding play philosophy we had last season and now that Hypia has come in, he is trying his best to turn this into a more forward thinking team in a short space of time.

We have no firepower and lack in a number of places, the opening game showed this and it is a worry for the rest of the season unless we get the quality additions we need asap.
This getting beyond a joke.. whilst we are doing some good business in terms of turning a good profit, we have no quality players coming in. Yes the additions are good but they do not compare to what has gone out the door. What is more alarming is the holding play philosophy we had last season and now that Hypia has come in, he is trying his best to turn this into a more forward thinking team in a short space of time. We have no firepower and lack in a number of places, the opening game showed this and it is a worry for the rest of the season unless we get the quality additions we need asap. Lux2014
  • Score: 8

7:17am Thu 14 Aug 14

argchat says...

Post judgement after 12-13 games. If we are bottom of the league without any new players, then yes something seriously bad is going on at the club and they need to explain themselfes. Until then I am not going to worry. From the clubs point of view, in order to get players in that Sami or the club wants, we have to sell, that is how I see things. I'm not worried yet. You never know, we might win our next 3 or 4 games and all the panic was over nothing.
Post judgement after 12-13 games. If we are bottom of the league without any new players, then yes something seriously bad is going on at the club and they need to explain themselfes. Until then I am not going to worry. From the clubs point of view, in order to get players in that Sami or the club wants, we have to sell, that is how I see things. I'm not worried yet. You never know, we might win our next 3 or 4 games and all the panic was over nothing. argchat
  • Score: 19

7:18am Thu 14 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players?
From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players? From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down, mark by the sea
  • Score: -10

7:25am Thu 14 Aug 14

Lux2014 says...

I am not entirely worried as yet although the warning signs are already in place to see.. I do have faith in the club but we seem to be completely focussed on 1 player (Ward) and possible a Liverpool prospect but is anything else going on behind the scenes?

We are told that they are working tirelessly to get players in but putting all our eggs in one basket does make you worry a bit...

On the other hand, great to see CMS on the score sheet the other night but we need more back up as well as just simply promoting the youth players into the 1st team
I am not entirely worried as yet although the warning signs are already in place to see.. I do have faith in the club but we seem to be completely focussed on 1 player (Ward) and possible a Liverpool prospect but is anything else going on behind the scenes? We are told that they are working tirelessly to get players in but putting all our eggs in one basket does make you worry a bit... On the other hand, great to see CMS on the score sheet the other night but we need more back up as well as just simply promoting the youth players into the 1st team Lux2014
  • Score: 5

7:35am Thu 14 Aug 14

Far gull says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.
With you Alan. I know a renewal was required. But i hope the targets Sami has are got ( and lets face it our recent track record of getting targets is not i Gus league).
If they are not i have my doubts Sami will hang around.
Just one point to bring up another poster's comment yesterday. This whole situation does bring into focus Sammy Lee's decision/ fiasco. Still no number 2 appointment which SH was actively seeking. Perhaps this on hold till end of transfer window too ?
We must have faith in TB for all he has done but i just wonder inside the 'game' if the word is out ammoungst players , agents and managers ( after Gus and to a lesser degree OG leaving ) that we are how you might say difficult employers ??
Or have employees difficult to work with.
May all be revealed soon before our season crumbles before us.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.[/p][/quote]With you Alan. I know a renewal was required. But i hope the targets Sami has are got ( and lets face it our recent track record of getting targets is not i Gus league). If they are not i have my doubts Sami will hang around. Just one point to bring up another poster's comment yesterday. This whole situation does bring into focus Sammy Lee's decision/ fiasco. Still no number 2 appointment which SH was actively seeking. Perhaps this on hold till end of transfer window too ? We must have faith in TB for all he has done but i just wonder inside the 'game' if the word is out ammoungst players , agents and managers ( after Gus and to a lesser degree OG leaving ) that we are how you might say difficult employers ?? Or have employees difficult to work with. May all be revealed soon before our season crumbles before us. Far gull
  • Score: 5

7:38am Thu 14 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore Cliify0002
  • Score: -16

7:45am Thu 14 Aug 14

brightonup says...

Cliify0002 wrote:
Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
...just when the team needs support too!
[quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]...just when the team needs support too! brightonup
  • Score: 12

7:47am Thu 14 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players?
From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,
And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players? From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,[/p][/quote]And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game. albionbloke
  • Score: 13

7:52am Thu 14 Aug 14

thetungsten says...

Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£ thetungsten
  • Score: -16

7:52am Thu 14 Aug 14

brightonup says...

albionbloke wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players?
From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,
And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.
It may be true, it may not.
You can be sure that if it is a pessimistic, dispiriting view, he will take the chance and commit it to writing. I am not sure what purpose it serves though, other than depressing those that believe it!
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players? From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,[/p][/quote]And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.[/p][/quote]It may be true, it may not. You can be sure that if it is a pessimistic, dispiriting view, he will take the chance and commit it to writing. I am not sure what purpose it serves though, other than depressing those that believe it! brightonup
  • Score: 5

7:53am Thu 14 Aug 14

thetungsten says...

thetungsten wrote:
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£[/p][/quote]The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however thetungsten
  • Score: -7

8:00am Thu 14 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

and most of you guys have missed--we have to give 375,000 to Watford of Buckers sale!! IF the rumours are correct that Sammi wants out---we are more in the proverbial than we all thought. Bad to worse!!!
and most of you guys have missed--we have to give 375,000 to Watford of Buckers sale!! IF the rumours are correct that Sammi wants out---we are more in the proverbial than we all thought. Bad to worse!!! mikeygit
  • Score: -1

8:02am Thu 14 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

As I wrote yesterday we on this forum and all Albion supporters/Fans need a statment from the club TODAY and not a statment of maybe this and maybe that we need an honest statment as to what if anything is going on behind what has now become closed doors! a statment of intent that will or will not affect the progress of the club over this season and the future.
If the club does not release such a statment very soon I can see supporters/Fans at the ground on match days venting there frustrations with flyers stating this one out or that one out and that is something we really do not need.
To the club all I and I would assum many here ask is for something to let us no what is going at the club we love 100%!!!!
As I wrote yesterday we on this forum and all Albion supporters/Fans need a statment from the club TODAY and not a statment of maybe this and maybe that we need an honest statment as to what if anything is going on behind what has now become closed doors! a statment of intent that will or will not affect the progress of the club over this season and the future. If the club does not release such a statment very soon I can see supporters/Fans at the ground on match days venting there frustrations with flyers stating this one out or that one out and that is something we really do not need. To the club all I and I would assum many here ask is for something to let us no what is going at the club we love 100%!!!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 5

8:11am Thu 14 Aug 14

Lux2014 says...

thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however
there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide.

Lets hope you heard wrong though....
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£[/p][/quote]The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however[/p][/quote]there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide. Lets hope you heard wrong though.... Lux2014
  • Score: 2

8:13am Thu 14 Aug 14

albionfan33 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
unless your source is tb or sh i cant see how you could possibly know what went on in a meeting between the two of them
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]unless your source is tb or sh i cant see how you could possibly know what went on in a meeting between the two of them albionfan33
  • Score: 6

8:19am Thu 14 Aug 14

thetungsten says...

Lux2014 wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however
there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide.

Lets hope you heard wrong though....
Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it!
[quote][p][bold]Lux2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£[/p][/quote]The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however[/p][/quote]there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide. Lets hope you heard wrong though....[/p][/quote]Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it! thetungsten
  • Score: -11

8:22am Thu 14 Aug 14

Lux2014 says...

thetungsten wrote:
Lux2014 wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however
there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide.

Lets hope you heard wrong though....
Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it!
Bloody hell! what a nightmare...... we shall see I guess.
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lux2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£[/p][/quote]The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however[/p][/quote]there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide. Lets hope you heard wrong though....[/p][/quote]Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it![/p][/quote]Bloody hell! what a nightmare...... we shall see I guess. Lux2014
  • Score: -4

8:31am Thu 14 Aug 14

Ellen Street says...

So if Buckley goes we don't yet know how the" enigmatic Paddy McCourt" situation will pan out.Having seen his brilliant, sublime performance and wonder goal against us last season I can truly say I have never watched a better individual display at the Amex.That day he surpassed Vicente .In spite of the "ifs" and "buts" it would be a positive move to add him to the ever depleted artists in our squad .He has the potential to bring the magic back.
So if Buckley goes we don't yet know how the" enigmatic Paddy McCourt" situation will pan out.Having seen his brilliant, sublime performance and wonder goal against us last season I can truly say I have never watched a better individual display at the Amex.That day he surpassed Vicente .In spite of the "ifs" and "buts" it would be a positive move to add him to the ever depleted artists in our squad .He has the potential to bring the magic back. Ellen Street
  • Score: 12

8:38am Thu 14 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

albionbloke wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players?
From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,
And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.
Really, do you not think the manager speaks to players? Maybe said to say one of the Spanish lads he being taken for a fool?
I can't name where that came from.. But let's see what happens in two weeks
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players? From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,[/p][/quote]And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.[/p][/quote]Really, do you not think the manager speaks to players? Maybe said to say one of the Spanish lads he being taken for a fool? I can't name where that came from.. But let's see what happens in two weeks mark by the sea
  • Score: -9

8:48am Thu 14 Aug 14

thetungsten says...

thetungsten wrote:
Lux2014 wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however
there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide.

Lets hope you heard wrong though....
Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it!
Thumbs down for reporting what was on the radio- what a bunch of bell ends you are!!!
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lux2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£[/p][/quote]The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however[/p][/quote]there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide. Lets hope you heard wrong though....[/p][/quote]Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it![/p][/quote]Thumbs down for reporting what was on the radio- what a bunch of bell ends you are!!! thetungsten
  • Score: 1

8:57am Thu 14 Aug 14

Piglet1 says...

albionbloke wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players?
From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,
And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.
He does that. Throws stuff out there with no credibility, it really is very annoying. It must be a desire to appear important.
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players? From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,[/p][/quote]And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.[/p][/quote]He does that. Throws stuff out there with no credibility, it really is very annoying. It must be a desire to appear important. Piglet1
  • Score: 6

9:00am Thu 14 Aug 14

Lux2014 says...

thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Lux2014 wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however
there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide.

Lets hope you heard wrong though....
Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it!
Thumbs down for reporting what was on the radio- what a bunch of bell ends you are!!!
I did not agree with it, I just commented on it.... if you read what I put I said that there is nothing on the web and lets hope that it is not true. "bell ends" is a little harsh, maybe if you read things in the right way, you would not have put a comment like that on it.
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lux2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£[/p][/quote]The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however[/p][/quote]there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide. Lets hope you heard wrong though....[/p][/quote]Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it![/p][/quote]Thumbs down for reporting what was on the radio- what a bunch of bell ends you are!!![/p][/quote]I did not agree with it, I just commented on it.... if you read what I put I said that there is nothing on the web and lets hope that it is not true. "bell ends" is a little harsh, maybe if you read things in the right way, you would not have put a comment like that on it. Lux2014
  • Score: 1

9:00am Thu 14 Aug 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Old Sami Hyypiard
Went up to the board,
To get the poor team a bone;
When he got there,
The boardroom was bare,
And so the poor team had none.
Old Sami Hyypiard Went up to the board, To get the poor team a bone; When he got there, The boardroom was bare, And so the poor team had none. Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 5

9:03am Thu 14 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

brightonup wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
...just when the team needs support too!
What team ?
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]...just when the team needs support too![/p][/quote]What team ? Cliify0002
  • Score: 1

9:09am Thu 14 Aug 14

Beale32 says...

Good morning!!!

Another positive start to the day to be had by all!!
Good morning!!! Another positive start to the day to be had by all!! Beale32
  • Score: -2

9:16am Thu 14 Aug 14

taylord1977 says...

Good morning Beale32

In fact everyone should start their post with Good morning, lets bring back some needed charm and politeness to these threads. After all, chances of any good news is minimal, so lets be happy
Good morning Beale32 In fact everyone should start their post with Good morning, lets bring back some needed charm and politeness to these threads. After all, chances of any good news is minimal, so lets be happy taylord1977
  • Score: 6

9:20am Thu 14 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.
Sounds a bit like pigs in the sky at the moment -sorry
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.[/p][/quote]Sounds a bit like pigs in the sky at the moment -sorry Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: -2

9:27am Thu 14 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.
Sounds a bit like pigs in the sky at the moment -sorry
Straws and clutching..........
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.[/p][/quote]Sounds a bit like pigs in the sky at the moment -sorry[/p][/quote]Straws and clutching.......... AlanDuffy
  • Score: 0

9:28am Thu 14 Aug 14

Sid East Brighton says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Agree. If things don't improve on players coming in then Sami will be gone, when , not sure. So will we be looking for manager number 3 in 3 years come June.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Agree. If things don't improve on players coming in then Sami will be gone, when , not sure. So will we be looking for manager number 3 in 3 years come June. Sid East Brighton
  • Score: -4

9:28am Thu 14 Aug 14

Sid East Brighton says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Agree. If things don't improve on players coming in then Sami will be gone, when , not sure. So will we be looking for manager number 3 in 3 years come June.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Agree. If things don't improve on players coming in then Sami will be gone, when , not sure. So will we be looking for manager number 3 in 3 years come June. Sid East Brighton
  • Score: -1

9:28am Thu 14 Aug 14

Neville says...

Strong rumours re Hyypia now so like most threads this will most likely happen. Doesn't it just show what a total mess up the hierarchy have made since the GP fiasco, no communications to the fans,milked for increases and even the managers being mislead. If this was any other business heads would have rolled by now.
Think even the most blinkered fans are getting frustrated now and if nothing has materialised by the end of the transfer window then the club need to issue a club statement.
Strong rumours re Hyypia now so like most threads this will most likely happen. Doesn't it just show what a total mess up the hierarchy have made since the GP fiasco, no communications to the fans,milked for increases and even the managers being mislead. If this was any other business heads would have rolled by now. Think even the most blinkered fans are getting frustrated now and if nothing has materialised by the end of the transfer window then the club need to issue a club statement. Neville
  • Score: -9

9:28am Thu 14 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

When SH came he must have thought that he had been given a shiny brand new Rolls Royce with the ground and training facility but sadly now he has opened the bonnet there is no engine and only the prospect of an old clapped out one with all these aged no club freebie players being touted.
When SH came he must have thought that he had been given a shiny brand new Rolls Royce with the ground and training facility but sadly now he has opened the bonnet there is no engine and only the prospect of an old clapped out one with all these aged no club freebie players being touted. Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: -1

9:28am Thu 14 Aug 14

rhett butler says...

Only my opinion but don't think it's gonna work with sami, probably. a nice enough guy. Bring in malky mckay. And let's move on!!!!
Only my opinion but don't think it's gonna work with sami, probably. a nice enough guy. Bring in malky mckay. And let's move on!!!! rhett butler
  • Score: 1

9:28am Thu 14 Aug 14

4everaseagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
FFP will see those clubs who have fallen foul of the rules given transfer embargo's. This does not just mean clubs cannot sign new players they will not be able to renew contracts as well. This will then see quality players available at knock down prices or even on a free. Let's all remember here the member clubs voted for these rules and at the recent meeting Bloom and Barber went to nothing was changed, so it will happen. Yes I agree we cannot wait until January for this to start happening as we need a competitive squad now. I believe we will see 4/5 players whether permanent or loans in over the next two weeks. As for Sami leaving and having talks with TB you have no more an idea of what is going on behind the scenes than any of us.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]FFP will see those clubs who have fallen foul of the rules given transfer embargo's. This does not just mean clubs cannot sign new players they will not be able to renew contracts as well. This will then see quality players available at knock down prices or even on a free. Let's all remember here the member clubs voted for these rules and at the recent meeting Bloom and Barber went to nothing was changed, so it will happen. Yes I agree we cannot wait until January for this to start happening as we need a competitive squad now. I believe we will see 4/5 players whether permanent or loans in over the next two weeks. As for Sami leaving and having talks with TB you have no more an idea of what is going on behind the scenes than any of us. 4everaseagull
  • Score: 7

9:33am Thu 14 Aug 14

pte says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Codswallop, club don't need 50m to develop houses, its a football club not a property developer. FFS club doesn't even own the Amex- that's owned by another of TB's companies. If TB wants to build houses, he can do that through another company and if short of finance go to the banks.

Though I will concede the Amex and Lancing may be a trojan horse for future development.

Mark you must treat with a pinch of salt everything you hear
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Codswallop, club don't need 50m to develop houses, its a football club not a property developer. FFS club doesn't even own the Amex- that's owned by another of TB's companies. If TB wants to build houses, he can do that through another company and if short of finance go to the banks. Though I will concede the Amex and Lancing may be a trojan horse for future development. Mark you must treat with a pinch of salt everything you hear pte
  • Score: 7

9:33am Thu 14 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

Lux2014 wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Lux2014 wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however
there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide.

Lets hope you heard wrong though....
Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it!
Bloody hell! what a nightmare...... we shall see I guess.
Well, even for a Finn, Sami's words after the Cheltenham game regarding Buckleys absence from the starting line up and possible links with Sunderland were extremely short and curt. When people say a sentence of only about six words and don't elaborate at all when prompted you can tell they are clamming up and not in the mood for talking. That's what that interview looked like to me. A man who was quietly seething about a situation that we wasn't happy about. I think we have heard enough from Sami in recent weeks to know he is not a happy bunny. Three times he has come out and said that we need to sign more players. That the squad is a bit thin etc.
I really hope these rumours are not true but is have to say it wouldn't surprise me.
[quote][p][bold]Lux2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lux2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£[/p][/quote]The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however[/p][/quote]there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide. Lets hope you heard wrong though....[/p][/quote]Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it![/p][/quote]Bloody hell! what a nightmare...... we shall see I guess.[/p][/quote]Well, even for a Finn, Sami's words after the Cheltenham game regarding Buckleys absence from the starting line up and possible links with Sunderland were extremely short and curt. When people say a sentence of only about six words and don't elaborate at all when prompted you can tell they are clamming up and not in the mood for talking. That's what that interview looked like to me. A man who was quietly seething about a situation that we wasn't happy about. I think we have heard enough from Sami in recent weeks to know he is not a happy bunny. Three times he has come out and said that we need to sign more players. That the squad is a bit thin etc. I really hope these rumours are not true but is have to say it wouldn't surprise me. Max Ripple
  • Score: 5

9:41am Thu 14 Aug 14

Weploughandmow says...

Here's my theory:
1. We're aiming for promotion this season.
2. The best players are all in the Premiership.
3. Premiership Clubs are happy to loan players to Championship Clubs.
4. If we wait until the end of August when Premiership Clubs have finalised their squads, we can pick up some pretty useful players on loan.
5. We can use our funds to finance wages to make sure we get the better quality loan players.
6. Loan players have stuff to prove to their parent clubs so are motivated to perform.
It's not the way I'd do it, but it's one way. Top class loan players have been amongst our best performers in recent years (Bridge, Ward) and if we've got £10m to spend on wages rather than transfer fees, even for just one season, then we'll get some promotion-class players.
Here's my theory: 1. We're aiming for promotion this season. 2. The best players are all in the Premiership. 3. Premiership Clubs are happy to loan players to Championship Clubs. 4. If we wait until the end of August when Premiership Clubs have finalised their squads, we can pick up some pretty useful players on loan. 5. We can use our funds to finance wages to make sure we get the better quality loan players. 6. Loan players have stuff to prove to their parent clubs so are motivated to perform. It's not the way I'd do it, but it's one way. Top class loan players have been amongst our best performers in recent years (Bridge, Ward) and if we've got £10m to spend on wages rather than transfer fees, even for just one season, then we'll get some promotion-class players. Weploughandmow
  • Score: 5

9:48am Thu 14 Aug 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Revised version...

Old Sami Hyypiard
Went up to the board,
To get the poor team a bone;
When he got there,
The boardroom was bare,
And soon poor Sami had gone.

C'mon the 3 Monkey Brigade, it's the way I tell 'em
Revised version... Old Sami Hyypiard Went up to the board, To get the poor team a bone; When he got there, The boardroom was bare, And soon poor Sami had gone. C'mon the 3 Monkey Brigade, it's the way I tell 'em Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: -1

9:57am Thu 14 Aug 14

Fozzyboy says...

Weploughandmow wrote:
Here's my theory:
1. We're aiming for promotion this season.
2. The best players are all in the Premiership.
3. Premiership Clubs are happy to loan players to Championship Clubs.
4. If we wait until the end of August when Premiership Clubs have finalised their squads, we can pick up some pretty useful players on loan.
5. We can use our funds to finance wages to make sure we get the better quality loan players.
6. Loan players have stuff to prove to their parent clubs so are motivated to perform.
It's not the way I'd do it, but it's one way. Top class loan players have been amongst our best performers in recent years (Bridge, Ward) and if we've got £10m to spend on wages rather than transfer fees, even for just one season, then we'll get some promotion-class players.
Unfortunately we could also find ourselves 12+ points off the pack by the end of August. And I know we could potentially gain some prem players on loan, it doesn't mean they will gel straight away. On top of that, losing players like we have done is doing nothing for moral of the rest of the squad.
[quote][p][bold]Weploughandmow[/bold] wrote: Here's my theory: 1. We're aiming for promotion this season. 2. The best players are all in the Premiership. 3. Premiership Clubs are happy to loan players to Championship Clubs. 4. If we wait until the end of August when Premiership Clubs have finalised their squads, we can pick up some pretty useful players on loan. 5. We can use our funds to finance wages to make sure we get the better quality loan players. 6. Loan players have stuff to prove to their parent clubs so are motivated to perform. It's not the way I'd do it, but it's one way. Top class loan players have been amongst our best performers in recent years (Bridge, Ward) and if we've got £10m to spend on wages rather than transfer fees, even for just one season, then we'll get some promotion-class players.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately we could also find ourselves 12+ points off the pack by the end of August. And I know we could potentially gain some prem players on loan, it doesn't mean they will gel straight away. On top of that, losing players like we have done is doing nothing for moral of the rest of the squad. Fozzyboy
  • Score: 6

10:02am Thu 14 Aug 14

mark5 says...

brightonup wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote:
Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
...just when the team needs support too!
Ha,ha,ha. So you bale out before you actually KNOW what is happening, based perhaps on some of the crazy prophecies of doom rampant on here and certainly before you KNOW what signings are imminent. What if 4/5 decent players come in together with some loan signings and Sami has the resources at his disposal to play a fast flowing, ball forward style of play that excite and starts winning games? I think this could happen and you will be stuck at home thinking why did you behave so impulsively, without any KNOWLEDGE?! Come on...............!!
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]...just when the team needs support too![/p][/quote]Ha,ha,ha. So you bale out before you actually KNOW what is happening, based perhaps on some of the crazy prophecies of doom rampant on here and certainly before you KNOW what signings are imminent. What if 4/5 decent players come in together with some loan signings and Sami has the resources at his disposal to play a fast flowing, ball forward style of play that excite and starts winning games? I think this could happen and you will be stuck at home thinking why did you behave so impulsively, without any KNOWLEDGE?! Come on...............!! mark5
  • Score: 3

10:05am Thu 14 Aug 14

rolivan says...

pte wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Codswallop, club don't need 50m to develop houses, its a football club not a property developer. FFS club doesn't even own the Amex- that's owned by another of TB's companies. If TB wants to build houses, he can do that through another company and if short of finance go to the banks.

Though I will concede the Amex and Lancing may be a trojan horse for future development.

Mark you must treat with a pinch of salt everything you hear
I would be very surprised if houses were allowed to be built next to the training ground as it is on a Flood Plain.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Codswallop, club don't need 50m to develop houses, its a football club not a property developer. FFS club doesn't even own the Amex- that's owned by another of TB's companies. If TB wants to build houses, he can do that through another company and if short of finance go to the banks. Though I will concede the Amex and Lancing may be a trojan horse for future development. Mark you must treat with a pinch of salt everything you hear[/p][/quote]I would be very surprised if houses were allowed to be built next to the training ground as it is on a Flood Plain. rolivan
  • Score: 2

10:06am Thu 14 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

rhett butler wrote:
Only my opinion but don't think it's gonna work with sami, probably. a nice enough guy. Bring in malky mckay. And let's move on!!!!
I agree Rhett but I doubt Malky would put up with the crap the two B's dish out. Who will? TB will be off to Australia again soon and in my view abrogates responsibility not delegates.
[quote][p][bold]rhett butler[/bold] wrote: Only my opinion but don't think it's gonna work with sami, probably. a nice enough guy. Bring in malky mckay. And let's move on!!!![/p][/quote]I agree Rhett but I doubt Malky would put up with the crap the two B's dish out. Who will? TB will be off to Australia again soon and in my view abrogates responsibility not delegates. Claude Back
  • Score: -4

10:06am Thu 14 Aug 14

pablobrowno says...

So hang on a minute tungsten has alleged that talksport mentioned unconfirmed reports that Sami has tried to quit. I'm listening and have not heard such a thing. I would think this would be pretty big news had it really got as far a being mentioned on talksport.

Tungsten is this an outright lie? PerhPs you can shed light on roughly what time you heard this as with listen again we should soon be able to work out whether or not you "heard" correctly or whether you are lying and scaremongering.

If you have made this up then you need to ask yourself some serious questions. I can't imagine you have heard this on talksport but it has not been mentioned or reported anywhere else!!!
So hang on a minute tungsten has alleged that talksport mentioned unconfirmed reports that Sami has tried to quit. I'm listening and have not heard such a thing. I would think this would be pretty big news had it really got as far a being mentioned on talksport. Tungsten is this an outright lie? PerhPs you can shed light on roughly what time you heard this as with listen again we should soon be able to work out whether or not you "heard" correctly or whether you are lying and scaremongering. If you have made this up then you need to ask yourself some serious questions. I can't imagine you have heard this on talksport but it has not been mentioned or reported anywhere else!!! pablobrowno
  • Score: 5

10:07am Thu 14 Aug 14

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

MHubbs wrote:
2.5m is good business for Buckers. For Brighton: "BUSINESS" is the key word!
Hard to argue with that. A brilliant player on his day, but his day only comes round once every couple of months or so.

All the best Will, that Doncaster game will never be forgotrten.
[quote][p][bold]MHubbs[/bold] wrote: 2.5m is good business for Buckers. For Brighton: "BUSINESS" is the key word![/p][/quote]Hard to argue with that. A brilliant player on his day, but his day only comes round once every couple of months or so. All the best Will, that Doncaster game will never be forgotrten. Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
  • Score: 2

10:10am Thu 14 Aug 14

Plutomania says...

Sid East Brighton wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Agree. If things don't improve on players coming in then Sami will be gone, when , not sure. So will we be looking for manager number 3 in 3 years come June.
YEP........ NJ I would think
[quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Agree. If things don't improve on players coming in then Sami will be gone, when , not sure. So will we be looking for manager number 3 in 3 years come June.[/p][/quote]YEP........ NJ I would think Plutomania
  • Score: -2

10:10am Thu 14 Aug 14

OldGull says...

brightonup wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote:
Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
...just when the team needs support too!
funny how new posters claim to have been life long supporters but now are going to stop???
As if a genuine fan can give up that easily.
It's in our blood, we support out team through thick and thin.

Players will arrive in the next 2 weeks I'm sure.
And if they don't, I will get behind those wearing the shirt.
I am still an Albion supporter
UTA
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]...just when the team needs support too![/p][/quote]funny how new posters claim to have been life long supporters but now are going to stop??? As if a genuine fan can give up that easily. It's in our blood, we support out team through thick and thin. Players will arrive in the next 2 weeks I'm sure. And if they don't, I will get behind those wearing the shirt. I am still an Albion supporter UTA OldGull
  • Score: 13

10:11am Thu 14 Aug 14

daveyboy35 says...

Weploughandmow wrote:
Here's my theory:
1. We're aiming for promotion this season.
2. The best players are all in the Premiership.
3. Premiership Clubs are happy to loan players to Championship Clubs.
4. If we wait until the end of August when Premiership Clubs have finalised their squads, we can pick up some pretty useful players on loan.
5. We can use our funds to finance wages to make sure we get the better quality loan players.
6. Loan players have stuff to prove to their parent clubs so are motivated to perform.
It's not the way I'd do it, but it's one way. Top class loan players have been amongst our best performers in recent years (Bridge, Ward) and if we've got £10m to spend on wages rather than transfer fees, even for just one season, then we'll get some promotion-class players.
Let's hope you are bang on!!!
[quote][p][bold]Weploughandmow[/bold] wrote: Here's my theory: 1. We're aiming for promotion this season. 2. The best players are all in the Premiership. 3. Premiership Clubs are happy to loan players to Championship Clubs. 4. If we wait until the end of August when Premiership Clubs have finalised their squads, we can pick up some pretty useful players on loan. 5. We can use our funds to finance wages to make sure we get the better quality loan players. 6. Loan players have stuff to prove to their parent clubs so are motivated to perform. It's not the way I'd do it, but it's one way. Top class loan players have been amongst our best performers in recent years (Bridge, Ward) and if we've got £10m to spend on wages rather than transfer fees, even for just one season, then we'll get some promotion-class players.[/p][/quote]Let's hope you are bang on!!! daveyboy35
  • Score: 3

10:12am Thu 14 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

mark by the sea wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players?
From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,
And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.
Really, do you not think the manager speaks to players? Maybe said to say one of the Spanish lads he being taken for a fool?
I can't name where that came from.. But let's see what happens in two weeks
Mark your theories and your posts are to me diabolical for you to come out with so called snippets or inside information which never comes true, your mates on here would believe you if you said a duck doesn't waddle or quack, keep up the good work!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players? From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,[/p][/quote]And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.[/p][/quote]Really, do you not think the manager speaks to players? Maybe said to say one of the Spanish lads he being taken for a fool? I can't name where that came from.. But let's see what happens in two weeks[/p][/quote]Mark your theories and your posts are to me diabolical for you to come out with so called snippets or inside information which never comes true, your mates on here would believe you if you said a duck doesn't waddle or quack, keep up the good work!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 4

10:12am Thu 14 Aug 14

thetungsten says...

pablobrowno wrote:
So hang on a minute tungsten has alleged that talksport mentioned unconfirmed reports that Sami has tried to quit. I'm listening and have not heard such a thing. I would think this would be pretty big news had it really got as far a being mentioned on talksport.

Tungsten is this an outright lie? PerhPs you can shed light on roughly what time you heard this as with listen again we should soon be able to work out whether or not you "heard" correctly or whether you are lying and scaremongering.

If you have made this up then you need to ask yourself some serious questions. I can't imagine you have heard this on talksport but it has not been mentioned or reported anywhere else!!!
I'm not trying to be contentious here is was mentioned although more as passing comment rather than an in depth discussion. Time was 6:45amish
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: So hang on a minute tungsten has alleged that talksport mentioned unconfirmed reports that Sami has tried to quit. I'm listening and have not heard such a thing. I would think this would be pretty big news had it really got as far a being mentioned on talksport. Tungsten is this an outright lie? PerhPs you can shed light on roughly what time you heard this as with listen again we should soon be able to work out whether or not you "heard" correctly or whether you are lying and scaremongering. If you have made this up then you need to ask yourself some serious questions. I can't imagine you have heard this on talksport but it has not been mentioned or reported anywhere else!!![/p][/quote]I'm not trying to be contentious here is was mentioned although more as passing comment rather than an in depth discussion. Time was 6:45amish thetungsten
  • Score: 0

10:14am Thu 14 Aug 14

Mossie707 says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.
You certainly do! It's nice to drift off into a world of fantasy, pure escapism! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.[/p][/quote]You certainly do! It's nice to drift off into a world of fantasy, pure escapism! ;-) Mossie707
  • Score: -1

10:17am Thu 14 Aug 14

Brucie Forsythe says...

rhett butler wrote:
Only my opinion but don't think it's gonna work with sami, probably. a nice enough guy. Bring in malky mckay. And let's move on!!!!
Doesnt matter who you bring in they will still have the same issues as the previous managers. Hands are tied when it comes to player recruitment !
[quote][p][bold]rhett butler[/bold] wrote: Only my opinion but don't think it's gonna work with sami, probably. a nice enough guy. Bring in malky mckay. And let's move on!!!![/p][/quote]Doesnt matter who you bring in they will still have the same issues as the previous managers. Hands are tied when it comes to player recruitment ! Brucie Forsythe
  • Score: 5

10:19am Thu 14 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

Afraid I didnt listen to Talksport this morning. Was disgusted with Brazil's comments yesterday in relation to Robin Williams so boycotted the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast this morning.
Afraid I didnt listen to Talksport this morning. Was disgusted with Brazil's comments yesterday in relation to Robin Williams so boycotted the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast this morning. sussexram40
  • Score: -1

10:21am Thu 14 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read.

If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now.

Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity.


http://cpfc.org/foru
ms/showthread.php?t=
254275
Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read. If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now. Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity. http://cpfc.org/foru ms/showthread.php?t= 254275 SMF20
  • Score: -2

10:26am Thu 14 Aug 14

MHubbs says...

Next man out the door will be Sami Hyypia if he has any sense. Writings on the wall😐
Next man out the door will be Sami Hyypia if he has any sense. Writings on the wall😐 MHubbs
  • Score: -5

10:30am Thu 14 Aug 14

Aye Aye says...

Cliify0002 wrote:
Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
Too thin? Were you there when we drew at Hereford to avoid the drop into non-league oblivion? Were you there when we were played out of site by Notts County at Wembley and missed out on promotion to Division 1? Were you there when we played our last game at the Goldstone Ground and faced an uncertain future playing at Gillingham (not only a different town but a different county!)? Were you there when the rain soaked you to your skin at the Withdean as you watched a poor side battle against relegation (again!)? I've lived through thin Cliffy002, as have a great many loyal supporters, and whilst our predicament is lamentable (to say the least), it certainly ain't thin!

So, can we please dispense with all this ridiculous hyperbole, do away with the rampant cynicism and start drinking from the half-full glass of blue-and-white-strip
ed optimism!

UTA!
[quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]Too thin? Were you there when we drew at Hereford to avoid the drop into non-league oblivion? Were you there when we were played out of site by Notts County at Wembley and missed out on promotion to Division 1? Were you there when we played our last game at the Goldstone Ground and faced an uncertain future playing at Gillingham (not only a different town but a different county!)? Were you there when the rain soaked you to your skin at the Withdean as you watched a poor side battle against relegation (again!)? I've lived through thin Cliffy002, as have a great many loyal supporters, and whilst our predicament is lamentable (to say the least), it certainly ain't thin! So, can we please dispense with all this ridiculous hyperbole, do away with the rampant cynicism and start drinking from the half-full glass of blue-and-white-strip ed optimism! UTA! Aye Aye
  • Score: 7

10:34am Thu 14 Aug 14

DazLow says...

I'm a disillusioned fan. I won't stop supporting the team or the club, but that doesn't mean I won't question the club. Something most odd is happening. Sami has been increasingly critical of the clubs lack of signings and seemingly missing out on players will hurt his reputation. Taking a play-off team into the bottom reaches of the Championship will also hurt his reputation. His apparent disinterest in the game Saturday spoke volumes - he reminded me of Gus and OG at the end of their seasons and I thought then he would resign. Hopefully he doesn't. But if he does...well...what next? No manager and not many players of any quality at the club. The vultures will circle.
I'm a disillusioned fan. I won't stop supporting the team or the club, but that doesn't mean I won't question the club. Something most odd is happening. Sami has been increasingly critical of the clubs lack of signings and seemingly missing out on players will hurt his reputation. Taking a play-off team into the bottom reaches of the Championship will also hurt his reputation. His apparent disinterest in the game Saturday spoke volumes - he reminded me of Gus and OG at the end of their seasons and I thought then he would resign. Hopefully he doesn't. But if he does...well...what next? No manager and not many players of any quality at the club. The vultures will circle. DazLow
  • Score: 1

10:41am Thu 14 Aug 14

SonnyJim55 says...

saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
You are bonkers if you cannot see what is happening here. There is no conspiracy theory, I have been posting on here for the last few months regarding Bloom getting ready to sell in the not too distant future, but have had the usual thumbs down and criticism from the blue tinted spectacle brigade. Now most people can see it. And why would it be such a terrible thing?
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]You are bonkers if you cannot see what is happening here. There is no conspiracy theory, I have been posting on here for the last few months regarding Bloom getting ready to sell in the not too distant future, but have had the usual thumbs down and criticism from the blue tinted spectacle brigade. Now most people can see it. And why would it be such a terrible thing? SonnyJim55
  • Score: -11

10:44am Thu 14 Aug 14

Beale32 says...

taylord1977 wrote:
Good morning Beale32

In fact everyone should start their post with Good morning, lets bring back some needed charm and politeness to these threads. After all, chances of any good news is minimal, so lets be happy
Agreed. Got to stay positive about the current situation. Saying that its not easy. So lets all stay positive and keep the faith.

UTA
[quote][p][bold]taylord1977[/bold] wrote: Good morning Beale32 In fact everyone should start their post with Good morning, lets bring back some needed charm and politeness to these threads. After all, chances of any good news is minimal, so lets be happy[/p][/quote]Agreed. Got to stay positive about the current situation. Saying that its not easy. So lets all stay positive and keep the faith. UTA Beale32
  • Score: 1

10:48am Thu 14 Aug 14

Fozzyboy says...

Aye Aye wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote:
Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
Too thin? Were you there when we drew at Hereford to avoid the drop into non-league oblivion? Were you there when we were played out of site by Notts County at Wembley and missed out on promotion to Division 1? Were you there when we played our last game at the Goldstone Ground and faced an uncertain future playing at Gillingham (not only a different town but a different county!)? Were you there when the rain soaked you to your skin at the Withdean as you watched a poor side battle against relegation (again!)? I've lived through thin Cliffy002, as have a great many loyal supporters, and whilst our predicament is lamentable (to say the least), it certainly ain't thin!

So, can we please dispense with all this ridiculous hyperbole, do away with the rampant cynicism and start drinking from the half-full glass of blue-and-white-strip

ed optimism!

UTA!
Blimey! Give the guy a break! He only voiced his opinion
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]Too thin? Were you there when we drew at Hereford to avoid the drop into non-league oblivion? Were you there when we were played out of site by Notts County at Wembley and missed out on promotion to Division 1? Were you there when we played our last game at the Goldstone Ground and faced an uncertain future playing at Gillingham (not only a different town but a different county!)? Were you there when the rain soaked you to your skin at the Withdean as you watched a poor side battle against relegation (again!)? I've lived through thin Cliffy002, as have a great many loyal supporters, and whilst our predicament is lamentable (to say the least), it certainly ain't thin! So, can we please dispense with all this ridiculous hyperbole, do away with the rampant cynicism and start drinking from the half-full glass of blue-and-white-strip ed optimism! UTA![/p][/quote]Blimey! Give the guy a break! He only voiced his opinion Fozzyboy
  • Score: 1

10:50am Thu 14 Aug 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

OzzieGull wrote:
Perhaps it's time to install telephones at the Amex so that Burke can actually enquire about possible signings. What IS going on? What we are left with hardly inspires confidence of Championship survival yet alone a push for he Premiership - how could we possibly have let so many good players leave without one decent outfield replacement. The last straw would be a Solly March departure - if I didn't live in Australia and could be a season ticket holder I would have to think seriously - is it worth it?
No worries mate, Summers on the way!
[quote][p][bold]OzzieGull[/bold] wrote: Perhaps it's time to install telephones at the Amex so that Burke can actually enquire about possible signings. What IS going on? What we are left with hardly inspires confidence of Championship survival yet alone a push for he Premiership - how could we possibly have let so many good players leave without one decent outfield replacement. The last straw would be a Solly March departure - if I didn't live in Australia and could be a season ticket holder I would have to think seriously - is it worth it?[/p][/quote]No worries mate, Summers on the way! Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 0

10:51am Thu 14 Aug 14

pte says...

SMF20 wrote:
Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read.

If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now.

Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity.


http://cpfc.org/foru

ms/showthread.php?t=

254275
They are talking out of their a hole and each point they make contradicts each other. Example: club don't own the ground and pay rent to a separate company (true) but the depreciation is a massive drain on the club (untrue since if it's owned by another company it's not even on the club's accounts as depreciation only as rent).

Even if these wallies got hold of the accounts, they wouldn't understand them. The only one that will understand them are TB and possibly PB.

The CP site is just like this site, full of people with opinions that remind me of Albert Tatlock. Stupid know it alls.

It's all down to FFP and no sinister plot. The club are getting their accounts in order as are quite a few other clubs apart from those with parachute payments. Wait till september as TB has asked. If they don't get anyone in then tear up your season ticket. If they get jouneymen in or players you've never heard of just wait and see how it goes as no club has a divine right to get promoted

Those that adhere to FFP will reap the benefits in the medium to log term
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read. If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now. Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity. http://cpfc.org/foru ms/showthread.php?t= 254275[/p][/quote]They are talking out of their a hole and each point they make contradicts each other. Example: club don't own the ground and pay rent to a separate company (true) but the depreciation is a massive drain on the club (untrue since if it's owned by another company it's not even on the club's accounts as depreciation only as rent). Even if these wallies got hold of the accounts, they wouldn't understand them. The only one that will understand them are TB and possibly PB. The CP site is just like this site, full of people with opinions that remind me of Albert Tatlock. Stupid know it alls. It's all down to FFP and no sinister plot. The club are getting their accounts in order as are quite a few other clubs apart from those with parachute payments. Wait till september as TB has asked. If they don't get anyone in then tear up your season ticket. If they get jouneymen in or players you've never heard of just wait and see how it goes as no club has a divine right to get promoted Those that adhere to FFP will reap the benefits in the medium to log term pte
  • Score: 5

10:57am Thu 14 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

MHubbs wrote:
Next man out the door will be Sami Hyypia if he has any sense. Writings on the wall😐
The Writing's more on the keyboard I reckon. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]MHubbs[/bold] wrote: Next man out the door will be Sami Hyypia if he has any sense. Writings on the wall😐[/p][/quote]The Writing's more on the keyboard I reckon. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 1

10:58am Thu 14 Aug 14

Aye Aye says...

Fozzyboy wrote:
Aye Aye wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote:
Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
Too thin? Were you there when we drew at Hereford to avoid the drop into non-league oblivion? Were you there when we were played out of site by Notts County at Wembley and missed out on promotion to Division 1? Were you there when we played our last game at the Goldstone Ground and faced an uncertain future playing at Gillingham (not only a different town but a different county!)? Were you there when the rain soaked you to your skin at the Withdean as you watched a poor side battle against relegation (again!)? I've lived through thin Cliffy002, as have a great many loyal supporters, and whilst our predicament is lamentable (to say the least), it certainly ain't thin!

So, can we please dispense with all this ridiculous hyperbole, do away with the rampant cynicism and start drinking from the half-full glass of blue-and-white-strip


ed optimism!

UTA!
Blimey! Give the guy a break! He only voiced his opinion
Fair point - no personal slight intended!
[quote][p][bold]Fozzyboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]Too thin? Were you there when we drew at Hereford to avoid the drop into non-league oblivion? Were you there when we were played out of site by Notts County at Wembley and missed out on promotion to Division 1? Were you there when we played our last game at the Goldstone Ground and faced an uncertain future playing at Gillingham (not only a different town but a different county!)? Were you there when the rain soaked you to your skin at the Withdean as you watched a poor side battle against relegation (again!)? I've lived through thin Cliffy002, as have a great many loyal supporters, and whilst our predicament is lamentable (to say the least), it certainly ain't thin! So, can we please dispense with all this ridiculous hyperbole, do away with the rampant cynicism and start drinking from the half-full glass of blue-and-white-strip ed optimism! UTA![/p][/quote]Blimey! Give the guy a break! He only voiced his opinion[/p][/quote]Fair point - no personal slight intended! Aye Aye
  • Score: 0

11:00am Thu 14 Aug 14

mark5 says...

Aye Aye wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote:
Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
Too thin? Were you there when we drew at Hereford to avoid the drop into non-league oblivion? Were you there when we were played out of site by Notts County at Wembley and missed out on promotion to Division 1? Were you there when we played our last game at the Goldstone Ground and faced an uncertain future playing at Gillingham (not only a different town but a different county!)? Were you there when the rain soaked you to your skin at the Withdean as you watched a poor side battle against relegation (again!)? I've lived through thin Cliffy002, as have a great many loyal supporters, and whilst our predicament is lamentable (to say the least), it certainly ain't thin!

So, can we please dispense with all this ridiculous hyperbole, do away with the rampant cynicism and start drinking from the half-full glass of blue-and-white-strip

ed optimism!

UTA!
Well said and too true! Your description of rain soaking to the skin, particularly resonates with me!! I recall taking my son to his first game at the Withdean, a 4.0 spanking of Shrewsbury, but the rain just kept coming down................
.....!!
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]Too thin? Were you there when we drew at Hereford to avoid the drop into non-league oblivion? Were you there when we were played out of site by Notts County at Wembley and missed out on promotion to Division 1? Were you there when we played our last game at the Goldstone Ground and faced an uncertain future playing at Gillingham (not only a different town but a different county!)? Were you there when the rain soaked you to your skin at the Withdean as you watched a poor side battle against relegation (again!)? I've lived through thin Cliffy002, as have a great many loyal supporters, and whilst our predicament is lamentable (to say the least), it certainly ain't thin! So, can we please dispense with all this ridiculous hyperbole, do away with the rampant cynicism and start drinking from the half-full glass of blue-and-white-strip ed optimism! UTA![/p][/quote]Well said and too true! Your description of rain soaking to the skin, particularly resonates with me!! I recall taking my son to his first game at the Withdean, a 4.0 spanking of Shrewsbury, but the rain just kept coming down................ .....!! mark5
  • Score: 2

11:02am Thu 14 Aug 14

brightonup says...

SonnyJim55 wrote:
saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
You are bonkers if you cannot see what is happening here. There is no conspiracy theory, I have been posting on here for the last few months regarding Bloom getting ready to sell in the not too distant future, but have had the usual thumbs down and criticism from the blue tinted spectacle brigade. Now most people can see it. And why would it be such a terrible thing?
If you keep predicting the same thing over time (say a few years) you will eventually be correct......
[quote][p][bold]SonnyJim55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]You are bonkers if you cannot see what is happening here. There is no conspiracy theory, I have been posting on here for the last few months regarding Bloom getting ready to sell in the not too distant future, but have had the usual thumbs down and criticism from the blue tinted spectacle brigade. Now most people can see it. And why would it be such a terrible thing?[/p][/quote]If you keep predicting the same thing over time (say a few years) you will eventually be correct...... brightonup
  • Score: 3

11:02am Thu 14 Aug 14

driverchris53 says...

this club is now tetering on the edge of disaster.I am quickly losing faith in any meaningful rebuilding of the squad;we might get 1 or 2 in but there doesn't seem any prospect of having the sort of squad to push for a play off place.I have no problem with players moving on to better things and Buckley had a poor season last year.I too think Hyypia will walk by Christmas if there are no major signings.The only positive thing to come out of this is we can stay further inside the Financial Rgulations by sacking Burke;he is obviously being paid a very good salery for doing nothing.
this club is now tetering on the edge of disaster.I am quickly losing faith in any meaningful rebuilding of the squad;we might get 1 or 2 in but there doesn't seem any prospect of having the sort of squad to push for a play off place.I have no problem with players moving on to better things and Buckley had a poor season last year.I too think Hyypia will walk by Christmas if there are no major signings.The only positive thing to come out of this is we can stay further inside the Financial Rgulations by sacking Burke;he is obviously being paid a very good salery for doing nothing. driverchris53
  • Score: -3

11:07am Thu 14 Aug 14

MHubbs says...

driverchris53 wrote:
this club is now tetering on the edge of disaster.I am quickly losing faith in any meaningful rebuilding of the squad;we might get 1 or 2 in but there doesn't seem any prospect of having the sort of squad to push for a play off place.I have no problem with players moving on to better things and Buckley had a poor season last year.I too think Hyypia will walk by Christmas if there are no major signings.The only positive thing to come out of this is we can stay further inside the Financial Rgulations by sacking Burke;he is obviously being paid a very good salery for doing nothing.
Oh I think Hyypia will be out long before Christmas. Perhaps by the end of September. What would be his reason for staying??
[quote][p][bold]driverchris53[/bold] wrote: this club is now tetering on the edge of disaster.I am quickly losing faith in any meaningful rebuilding of the squad;we might get 1 or 2 in but there doesn't seem any prospect of having the sort of squad to push for a play off place.I have no problem with players moving on to better things and Buckley had a poor season last year.I too think Hyypia will walk by Christmas if there are no major signings.The only positive thing to come out of this is we can stay further inside the Financial Rgulations by sacking Burke;he is obviously being paid a very good salery for doing nothing.[/p][/quote]Oh I think Hyypia will be out long before Christmas. Perhaps by the end of September. What would be his reason for staying?? MHubbs
  • Score: -2

11:08am Thu 14 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

It does seem the reason for all the selling and the lack of buying is that the club is in a bit of financial trouble - the main reason being The Amex which is a very big fixed cost - a PL stadium being used in the Championship.
It does seem the reason for all the selling and the lack of buying is that the club is in a bit of financial trouble - the main reason being The Amex which is a very big fixed cost - a PL stadium being used in the Championship. sussexram40
  • Score: -3

11:23am Thu 14 Aug 14

OldGull says...

thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Lux2014 wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£
The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however
there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide.

Lets hope you heard wrong though....
Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it!
Thumbs down for reporting what was on the radio- what a bunch of bell ends you are!!!
just listened again to Talksport from 06:30 to 07:00
Sorry you got it wrong,
NO mention of Sami Hyypia on there
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lux2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: Talk sport reporting that Sami Hypia has resigned or has held talks with the chairman offering his resignation!!!! What the F@?£[/p][/quote]The radio that is! Can't see anything on line however[/p][/quote]there is nothing online about this or anywhere across the web for that matter. Sounds a little premature but if use newsnow.com and add I Brighton and Hove Albion it will pull all news listings for the club worldwide. Lets hope you heard wrong though....[/p][/quote]Definitely heard it- they used the words 'unconfirmed reports' likewise nothing on the web so I hope there's nothing in it![/p][/quote]Thumbs down for reporting what was on the radio- what a bunch of bell ends you are!!![/p][/quote]just listened again to Talksport from 06:30 to 07:00 Sorry you got it wrong, NO mention of Sami Hyypia on there OldGull
  • Score: 6

11:47am Thu 14 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

I didnt think there would have been anything on Talksport. It would have been all over the internet as well by now if there had been. I think the poster was telling porkies.
The Argus may need to take action as this person is obviously a troll and not to be trusted.
I didnt think there would have been anything on Talksport. It would have been all over the internet as well by now if there had been. I think the poster was telling porkies. The Argus may need to take action as this person is obviously a troll and not to be trusted. sussexram40
  • Score: 0

11:54am Thu 14 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

mark5 wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
...just when the team needs support too!
Ha,ha,ha. So you bale out before you actually KNOW what is happening, based perhaps on some of the crazy prophecies of doom rampant on here and certainly before you KNOW what signings are imminent. What if 4/5 decent players come in together with some loan signings and Sami has the resources at his disposal to play a fast flowing, ball forward style of play that excite and starts winning games? I think this could happen and you will be stuck at home thinking why did you behave so impulsively, without any KNOWLEDGE?! Come on...............!!
They won't be coming oh blinkered one
[quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]...just when the team needs support too![/p][/quote]Ha,ha,ha. So you bale out before you actually KNOW what is happening, based perhaps on some of the crazy prophecies of doom rampant on here and certainly before you KNOW what signings are imminent. What if 4/5 decent players come in together with some loan signings and Sami has the resources at his disposal to play a fast flowing, ball forward style of play that excite and starts winning games? I think this could happen and you will be stuck at home thinking why did you behave so impulsively, without any KNOWLEDGE?! Come on...............!![/p][/quote]They won't be coming oh blinkered one Cliify0002
  • Score: -5

11:57am Thu 14 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

SMF20 wrote:
Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read.

If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now.

Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity.


http://cpfc.org/foru

ms/showthread.php?t=

254275
Not going to read it. I don’t care what cpfc.org think. Probably explains why there are more silly trolls on here over the last couple of days than usual though. Ones like sussexram
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read. If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now. Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity. http://cpfc.org/foru ms/showthread.php?t= 254275[/p][/quote]Not going to read it. I don’t care what cpfc.org think. Probably explains why there are more silly trolls on here over the last couple of days than usual though. Ones like sussexram championshipgull
  • Score: 4

12:09pm Thu 14 Aug 14

pjwilk says...

Fozzyboy wrote:
Weploughandmow wrote:
Here's my theory:
1. We're aiming for promotion this season.
2. The best players are all in the Premiership.
3. Premiership Clubs are happy to loan players to Championship Clubs.
4. If we wait until the end of August when Premiership Clubs have finalised their squads, we can pick up some pretty useful players on loan.
5. We can use our funds to finance wages to make sure we get the better quality loan players.
6. Loan players have stuff to prove to their parent clubs so are motivated to perform.
It's not the way I'd do it, but it's one way. Top class loan players have been amongst our best performers in recent years (Bridge, Ward) and if we've got £10m to spend on wages rather than transfer fees, even for just one season, then we'll get some promotion-class players.
Unfortunately we could also find ourselves 12+ points off the pack by the end of August. And I know we could potentially gain some prem players on loan, it doesn't mean they will gel straight away. On top of that, losing players like we have done is doing nothing for moral of the rest of the squad.
You think Burke is going to pay wages of £50,000plus a week for Premiership reserves.Not in a million years.He probably says can anyone lend me 50p for the coffee machine.
[quote][p][bold]Fozzyboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weploughandmow[/bold] wrote: Here's my theory: 1. We're aiming for promotion this season. 2. The best players are all in the Premiership. 3. Premiership Clubs are happy to loan players to Championship Clubs. 4. If we wait until the end of August when Premiership Clubs have finalised their squads, we can pick up some pretty useful players on loan. 5. We can use our funds to finance wages to make sure we get the better quality loan players. 6. Loan players have stuff to prove to their parent clubs so are motivated to perform. It's not the way I'd do it, but it's one way. Top class loan players have been amongst our best performers in recent years (Bridge, Ward) and if we've got £10m to spend on wages rather than transfer fees, even for just one season, then we'll get some promotion-class players.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately we could also find ourselves 12+ points off the pack by the end of August. And I know we could potentially gain some prem players on loan, it doesn't mean they will gel straight away. On top of that, losing players like we have done is doing nothing for moral of the rest of the squad.[/p][/quote]You think Burke is going to pay wages of £50,000plus a week for Premiership reserves.Not in a million years.He probably says can anyone lend me 50p for the coffee machine. pjwilk
  • Score: 2

12:25pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Seagulls26 says...

Can't find anything on this Hypia story!!!Cant believe this is true after 2 games.surly team rebuilding is down to him as well.
More concerning are the reports that solly is in talks with scumhampton!
The boys only just signed for another 4 years,surely got to be hanging on to this talented kid.
But the way it's looking if the price is right he's off!
Must be some good news this week!
BHA forever!xx
Can't find anything on this Hypia story!!!Cant believe this is true after 2 games.surly team rebuilding is down to him as well. More concerning are the reports that solly is in talks with scumhampton! The boys only just signed for another 4 years,surely got to be hanging on to this talented kid. But the way it's looking if the price is right he's off! Must be some good news this week! BHA forever!xx Seagulls26
  • Score: 4

12:37pm Thu 14 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

championshipgull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read.

If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now.

Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity.


http://cpfc.org/foru


ms/showthread.php?t=


254275
Not going to read it. I don’t care what cpfc.org think. Probably explains why there are more silly trolls on here over the last couple of days than usual though. Ones like sussexram
Well, I did read it - makes interesting reading. For me 2 things came out of it which may help to explain current events - the club lost £14m in Y/E 2012/13, mainly due to increased overheads ( players in/salaries ), that is obviously not sustainable even allowing for the chairman covering a substantial proportion. With regard to income, just over a third of our income comes from ticket sales. Therefore we have the catch-22 situation, whereby we need to make significant savings on overheads, whilst maintaining the bulk of our support - a delicate balancing act, and one which I don't think the club has got right yet. The deafening silence around the Amex at present leads to speculation, rumour and downright nonsense being spouted about selling the club, Sami leaving etc. I believe the majority of supporters are intelligent enough to realise that we've come a long way in a short time but maybe now is a time for consolidation, get the finances in order whilst retaining Championship status. For these reasons, I don't expect any "marquee" signings in the next few weeks, but a sensible strengthening of the squad, within our means and I hope that all sensible supporters get behind the team on the pitch and don't let the scaremongers and idiots spread their poison.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read. If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now. Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity. http://cpfc.org/foru ms/showthread.php?t= 254275[/p][/quote]Not going to read it. I don’t care what cpfc.org think. Probably explains why there are more silly trolls on here over the last couple of days than usual though. Ones like sussexram[/p][/quote]Well, I did read it - makes interesting reading. For me 2 things came out of it which may help to explain current events - the club lost £14m in Y/E 2012/13, mainly due to increased overheads ( players in/salaries ), that is obviously not sustainable even allowing for the chairman covering a substantial proportion. With regard to income, just over a third of our income comes from ticket sales. Therefore we have the catch-22 situation, whereby we need to make significant savings on overheads, whilst maintaining the bulk of our support - a delicate balancing act, and one which I don't think the club has got right yet. The deafening silence around the Amex at present leads to speculation, rumour and downright nonsense being spouted about selling the club, Sami leaving etc. I believe the majority of supporters are intelligent enough to realise that we've come a long way in a short time but maybe now is a time for consolidation, get the finances in order whilst retaining Championship status. For these reasons, I don't expect any "marquee" signings in the next few weeks, but a sensible strengthening of the squad, within our means and I hope that all sensible supporters get behind the team on the pitch and don't let the scaremongers and idiots spread their poison. AlanDuffy
  • Score: -4

12:47pm Thu 14 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

brightonup wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
saraman wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Well the cupboard is nearly bare,
I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here?
I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember ..
I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ?
Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now?
Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas?
What's point giving him away if they need a left back?
I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,.
From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.
Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned.
I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role.
I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here.
As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers.

One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.
I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players?
From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,
And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.
It may be true, it may not.
You can be sure that if it is a pessimistic, dispiriting view, he will take the chance and commit it to writing. I am not sure what purpose it serves though, other than depressing those that believe it!
What I find amazing is that anyone actually admits to listening to the garbage that is Talk Sport, second only in crap league to the Pundits on BT Sport and co commentator Michael Owen. Only my view of course.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Well the cupboard is nearly bare, I have to question how Burke must have had a good idea of players who he was going to realise in march / April .... Those players out of contract come June were open to discuss contracts with other clubs, which in a nutshell leads us to the question , what has been achieved in 5 months of knowing where we need to strengthen , who is available and if that player wants to come here? I have no doubt 2-3 loans will come in , lingard being one, I can already see not only problems now, but in 6 months time, lua lua , cms can both talk to other clubs, the ceiling that Gus talked about is now lower than I can remember .. I did here the club need to find 50m to buy land next to the training ground to build houses? Maybe TB does not have the cash ? Two weeks to finalise the squad! If we were serious about targets, why have we not signed them now? Are we waiting for wolves to crumble? That may happen, however wolves may end up with a few injuries and decide to keep him till Xmas? What's point giving him away if they need a left back? I have to wonder if the plan is to sell everything and hope FFP crashes the transfer market? If so punishments need to be severe or we will look like the mugs of the football league,. From what I have heard sami is not impressed with things, and has had meetings with TB .. I think the transfer window could see him go if players are not signed of the quality required.[/p][/quote]Hi Mark, I have read with interest the flood of posts on this site since the end of last season. Until now I have been reluctant to post an opinion because like the rest of us we don't know what is going on. Your posts have been of most interest, the rest appearing to be the end of the world as far as The Albion is concerned. I am now of the opinion that Buckley's sale will be the last of a major clear out and the proceeds from all departing players will now be used to purchase the squad that suits Sammi's style of play. I think it must be bourn in mind that no sale occurred before the arrival of Sammi and that he played a major role. I am convinced that the next two weeks will see a flurry of good players in and that confidence will return to the naysayers on here. As for the conspiracy theory of TB asset stripping in order to sell the club is absolutely bonkers. One thing I will agree with, is that the opening game against SW was dire at best, so was the game against Barnsley last season. From there we went on to claim a play-off berth. I remain as confident as ever that we shall have a good season.[/p][/quote]I kind of see that , but we have 13- 14 million banked, will that help negotiate good deals with other clubs for players? From what I have heard,sami wants out, we then have jones as capt loyal ready to take the ship down,[/p][/quote]And your source is......? If you want to add credibility to that kind of comment, then provide some backup. Failing that, I'll just put it down to your guessing game.[/p][/quote]It may be true, it may not. You can be sure that if it is a pessimistic, dispiriting view, he will take the chance and commit it to writing. I am not sure what purpose it serves though, other than depressing those that believe it![/p][/quote]What I find amazing is that anyone actually admits to listening to the garbage that is Talk Sport, second only in crap league to the Pundits on BT Sport and co commentator Michael Owen. Only my view of course. dave from bexill
  • Score: 2

12:58pm Thu 14 Aug 14

gordongull says...

This is a quote from Tony Bloom when Sami was appointed:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
The season started last Saturday, and it doesn't look like a promotion squad to me.
It is unlikely that Sami thinks it is a promotion squad either.
The assurances that Sami was given when he arrived had no substance, so it is difficult to give any credibility to the revised schedule for players coming in. Sami can't intervene to fast-track the required signings, because that is not in his job description.
He has two choices. He can either keep going with the players that are available to him, and hope that he is not let down again, or he can part company with the club.
Sami was sacked as Bayer Leverkusen coach after one win in twelve competitive games. If he starts this season with a similar record, he will be sacked, and that could put an end his managerial career.
By now, Sami must see himself as a potential fall guy, and getting out now could be the only way for him to protect his reputation.
This is a quote from Tony Bloom when Sami was appointed: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” The season started last Saturday, and it doesn't look like a promotion squad to me. It is unlikely that Sami thinks it is a promotion squad either. The assurances that Sami was given when he arrived had no substance, so it is difficult to give any credibility to the revised schedule for players coming in. Sami can't intervene to fast-track the required signings, because that is not in his job description. He has two choices. He can either keep going with the players that are available to him, and hope that he is not let down again, or he can part company with the club. Sami was sacked as Bayer Leverkusen coach after one win in twelve competitive games. If he starts this season with a similar record, he will be sacked, and that could put an end his managerial career. By now, Sami must see himself as a potential fall guy, and getting out now could be the only way for him to protect his reputation. gordongull
  • Score: 3

1:08pm Thu 14 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.
The scenario you have outlined Alan is entirely feasible and not too dissimilar to my posting on the 'Buckley having a medical' thread yesterday.
Since we had essentially the same squad during both the last two seasons when we reached the play-offs with only two or three variations eg Ward for Bridge and Andrews for Bridcutt I can see exactly what Poyet meant when he said that the club had reached/hit the ceiling.
He realised, I believe before anyone else, that the squad we had simply wasn't strong enough to win promotion which has proved to be the case.
TB and the board have come round to this viewpoint and therefore are restructuring the team in order to have one that can succeed in reaching the PL.
PB talks about being Premier League Ready and logically that has to apply to the playing side as much as any other aspect of BHA .
What undoubtedly upset the apple cart or at the very least delayed the rebuilding process was Oscar leaving. Whether he was daunted by the prospect I suspect we will never know but the reality that TB would have been faced with was that he could not afford for any major process of change to start until he had Oscar's replacement on board. Even then discussions were needed with SH once he was appointed before the green light could be given.
Even then any restructuring could only commence once targets had been identified and agreed and priorities established eg first get replacements for Upson, Barnes and TK. Then as more funds become available go for the other targets that he (TB) has agreed with SH.
The first wave of new recruits ie Hughes, COG and Stockdale have been signed (I exclude Toko from this as Oscar must have been aware of and possibly gave the OK for him to be acquired).
Now we wait for the remaining 6 players the club needs to be brought to the Amex over the next 18 days before the Window closes. TB is asking us fans to wait and see what the squad looks like once this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement.
Fortunately with the remaining proceeds of Bridcutt's sale plus the funds (£9 million net after various fees) from Ulloa and Buckley's departures we should have the resource to do so within the time available.
I am pleased that TB faced up to the reality of where the squad was and what it was capable of achieving. I just hope that in addressing the issue he and the club provide the right solution(s).
Time will tell. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: I have a dream. Knowing that Ulloa and Buckley were likely to move on, the club waited until deals were struck to see what sort of money they’d have to spend. As a result we now have more funds available for transfers than expected, so over the next 2 weeks we bring in 4 or 5 quality players, followed by a couple of season long loans, bringing the squad up to strength and in a strong position to challenge. Along with others, I have been critical of the situation but would gladly eat a huge slice of humble pie if this plays out. A full stadium again, a happy manager, and we can look forward to watching our favourite team play. The next 2 weeks will tell us a lot about the direction this club is taking. I have a dream.[/p][/quote]The scenario you have outlined Alan is entirely feasible and not too dissimilar to my posting on the 'Buckley having a medical' thread yesterday. Since we had essentially the same squad during both the last two seasons when we reached the play-offs with only two or three variations eg Ward for Bridge and Andrews for Bridcutt I can see exactly what Poyet meant when he said that the club had reached/hit the ceiling. He realised, I believe before anyone else, that the squad we had simply wasn't strong enough to win promotion which has proved to be the case. TB and the board have come round to this viewpoint and therefore are restructuring the team in order to have one that can succeed in reaching the PL. PB talks about being Premier League Ready and logically that has to apply to the playing side as much as any other aspect of BHA . What undoubtedly upset the apple cart or at the very least delayed the rebuilding process was Oscar leaving. Whether he was daunted by the prospect I suspect we will never know but the reality that TB would have been faced with was that he could not afford for any major process of change to start until he had Oscar's replacement on board. Even then discussions were needed with SH once he was appointed before the green light could be given. Even then any restructuring could only commence once targets had been identified and agreed and priorities established eg first get replacements for Upson, Barnes and TK. Then as more funds become available go for the other targets that he (TB) has agreed with SH. The first wave of new recruits ie Hughes, COG and Stockdale have been signed (I exclude Toko from this as Oscar must have been aware of and possibly gave the OK for him to be acquired). Now we wait for the remaining 6 players the club needs to be brought to the Amex over the next 18 days before the Window closes. TB is asking us fans to wait and see what the squad looks like once this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement. Fortunately with the remaining proceeds of Bridcutt's sale plus the funds (£9 million net after various fees) from Ulloa and Buckley's departures we should have the resource to do so within the time available. I am pleased that TB faced up to the reality of where the squad was and what it was capable of achieving. I just hope that in addressing the issue he and the club provide the right solution(s). Time will tell. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

1:24pm Thu 14 Aug 14

pte says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read.

If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now.

Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity.


http://cpfc.org/foru



ms/showthread.php?t=



254275
Not going to read it. I don’t care what cpfc.org think. Probably explains why there are more silly trolls on here over the last couple of days than usual though. Ones like sussexram
Well, I did read it - makes interesting reading. For me 2 things came out of it which may help to explain current events - the club lost £14m in Y/E 2012/13, mainly due to increased overheads ( players in/salaries ), that is obviously not sustainable even allowing for the chairman covering a substantial proportion. With regard to income, just over a third of our income comes from ticket sales. Therefore we have the catch-22 situation, whereby we need to make significant savings on overheads, whilst maintaining the bulk of our support - a delicate balancing act, and one which I don't think the club has got right yet. The deafening silence around the Amex at present leads to speculation, rumour and downright nonsense being spouted about selling the club, Sami leaving etc. I believe the majority of supporters are intelligent enough to realise that we've come a long way in a short time but maybe now is a time for consolidation, get the finances in order whilst retaining Championship status. For these reasons, I don't expect any "marquee" signings in the next few weeks, but a sensible strengthening of the squad, within our means and I hope that all sensible supporters get behind the team on the pitch and don't let the scaremongers and idiots spread their poison.
You can only see the accounts PDF by logging into the site (err no thank you) otherwise you have to trust the numpties on the CP that they have not misread the figures or missed a qualifying or balancing factor.

Relying on an unqualified person's assessment of accounts is as reliable as someone self diagnosing an illness via google when they need a brain surgeon

Accounts never tell the full story so even if you're Price Waterhouse you'll never get the full picture, only the MD has that.

Don't worry about the capital costs of the Amex, that's all taken care of

For those worried, TB isn't going to sell the club, he's not going to build houses in Lancing on stilts, divert, lower or drain the Adur river either

Any club that doesn't adhere to FFP will not be able to sign or to renew player contracts. That means they can't sign any new players and any valuable players they have they will lose on Bosmans. THAT'S SERIOUS!
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Saw this link on another site and thought it worth a read. If the guys up the road are right, it goes a long way to explaining what is going on at our club right now. Me personally.... I would prefer the club to come out and tell us if this is the problem. Id have no problems accepting this and would be backing us to the last. There is strength in adversity. http://cpfc.org/foru ms/showthread.php?t= 254275[/p][/quote]Not going to read it. I don’t care what cpfc.org think. Probably explains why there are more silly trolls on here over the last couple of days than usual though. Ones like sussexram[/p][/quote]Well, I did read it - makes interesting reading. For me 2 things came out of it which may help to explain current events - the club lost £14m in Y/E 2012/13, mainly due to increased overheads ( players in/salaries ), that is obviously not sustainable even allowing for the chairman covering a substantial proportion. With regard to income, just over a third of our income comes from ticket sales. Therefore we have the catch-22 situation, whereby we need to make significant savings on overheads, whilst maintaining the bulk of our support - a delicate balancing act, and one which I don't think the club has got right yet. The deafening silence around the Amex at present leads to speculation, rumour and downright nonsense being spouted about selling the club, Sami leaving etc. I believe the majority of supporters are intelligent enough to realise that we've come a long way in a short time but maybe now is a time for consolidation, get the finances in order whilst retaining Championship status. For these reasons, I don't expect any "marquee" signings in the next few weeks, but a sensible strengthening of the squad, within our means and I hope that all sensible supporters get behind the team on the pitch and don't let the scaremongers and idiots spread their poison.[/p][/quote]You can only see the accounts PDF by logging into the site (err no thank you) otherwise you have to trust the numpties on the CP that they have not misread the figures or missed a qualifying or balancing factor. Relying on an unqualified person's assessment of accounts is as reliable as someone self diagnosing an illness via google when they need a brain surgeon Accounts never tell the full story so even if you're Price Waterhouse you'll never get the full picture, only the MD has that. Don't worry about the capital costs of the Amex, that's all taken care of For those worried, TB isn't going to sell the club, he's not going to build houses in Lancing on stilts, divert, lower or drain the Adur river either Any club that doesn't adhere to FFP will not be able to sign or to renew player contracts. That means they can't sign any new players and any valuable players they have they will lose on Bosmans. THAT'S SERIOUS! pte
  • Score: -1

6:04pm Thu 14 Aug 14

brightonup says...

Cliify0002 wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore
...just when the team needs support too!
What team ?
Eleven players who take to the field in the next match - but then you know that, don't you.....
[quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: Seriously time the club stopped blowing smoke up people bottoms. A stripped down team that can't be called a team in reality, empty promises from those on high. Good luck to Will but it's become more evident why the club put in two poor performances in the play offs in both attempts, the club don't want promotion they couldn't afford it seriously worried about the club I supported all my life though thick and thin but it's got too thin for me now I can't watch it be destroyed so no matter how it hurts I've made the choice to not to continue paying out money on it anymore[/p][/quote]...just when the team needs support too![/p][/quote]What team ?[/p][/quote]Eleven players who take to the field in the next match - but then you know that, don't you..... brightonup
  • Score: 1

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