Albion anger as Ward deal is scuppered by Burnley

Stephen Ward is expected to move to Burnley

Stephen Ward is expected to move to Burnley

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Albion's deal to bring Stephen Ward back to the Amex has been hijacked by Premier League newcomers Burnley.

Ward was due at the Amex yesterday afternoon for a medical after the Seagulls had finally agreed a fee with Wolverhampton Wanderers.

The Republic of Ireland left-back had also agreed personal terms but failed to show up with his representative, leaving boss Sami Hyypia and Albion officials fuming.

Ward, 29 next week, has been Albion’s No.1 target for the problem position all summer following a successful loan spell throughout last season.

The Seagulls pushed the boat out to land him, reluctantly agreeing to Wolves’ demand for a six-figure fee as well as meeting his £13,000-a-week wages.

Wanderers manager Kenny Jackett, speaking yesterday afternoon, confirmed: “The clubs have agreed and now it’s down to Brighton and the player.

“It is a good move for him, he did well last year, they got into the top six and he was part of it.

“They have wanted him all along and we have moved on.”

Now Burnley are thought to have also agreed a fee, of around £500,000, to snatch him from Albion’s grasp and Ward is expected to move to Turf Moor instead.

The Seagulls are already switching their attention to other targets for the left-back position, where they have been lacking a permanent signing for two years.

Wayne Bridge was on loan for a season from Manchester City prior to Ward but then signed for Reading before retiring through injury.

Inigo Calderon or Adam Chicksen will fill the role at Birmingham tomorrow.

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5:25am Fri 15 Aug 14

lighteninglee says...

Wonder what wonderful news we Will all be reading by dinner time today? To many downs lately about time we deserve some good news. Think someones job should be reviewed because he Def is not doing it properly...
Wonder what wonderful news we Will all be reading by dinner time today? To many downs lately about time we deserve some good news. Think someones job should be reviewed because he Def is not doing it properly... lighteninglee
  • Score: 26

5:28am Fri 15 Aug 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.
We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA. Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 15

5:51am Fri 15 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.
Let's be really honest, we have known ward was a excellent left back since November 2013, we have tried to get him cheap, probably chipped ward down as well, then along come a club who say we what you, here is your contract, no nonsense.... It's like having a mate who is shy of the bar, funny for a while, but annoying after a few weeks..
I seriously can't imagine Burke and bloom think they can target players for year or so, and hope no one else wants them?
Clayton the example .. We nearly scuppered his move to Boro , but failed to convince him, it's like employing a salesman who nearly sold your product! At the end of the day we keep missing... And as a business that means someone leaves.
I also wonder if ward looked at the squad being sold and thought maybe not for me!
I have to say we can blame money, we can blame the players, but nothing is going to change.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.[/p][/quote]Let's be really honest, we have known ward was a excellent left back since November 2013, we have tried to get him cheap, probably chipped ward down as well, then along come a club who say we what you, here is your contract, no nonsense.... It's like having a mate who is shy of the bar, funny for a while, but annoying after a few weeks.. I seriously can't imagine Burke and bloom think they can target players for year or so, and hope no one else wants them? Clayton the example .. We nearly scuppered his move to Boro , but failed to convince him, it's like employing a salesman who nearly sold your product! At the end of the day we keep missing... And as a business that means someone leaves. I also wonder if ward looked at the squad being sold and thought maybe not for me! I have to say we can blame money, we can blame the players, but nothing is going to change. mark by the sea
  • Score: 22

6:06am Fri 15 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

What a surprise .......not. All you need to ask is would you still want to come to a club that has sold all but a few players you played with last season, I guess that's an easy one , def no. Maybe he saw himself as a token to quieten us. But whatever this should have been done long ago.get ready for more disappointment I can't see anyone come here
What a surprise .......not. All you need to ask is would you still want to come to a club that has sold all but a few players you played with last season, I guess that's an easy one , def no. Maybe he saw himself as a token to quieten us. But whatever this should have been done long ago.get ready for more disappointment I can't see anyone come here Cliify0002
  • Score: 17

6:10am Fri 15 Aug 14

MHubbs says...

We got what we deserved on this one. "Number one target"? Why sooooo looooong in settling the deal over a couple of hundred grand when millions have come on. Incompetence personified imo
We got what we deserved on this one. "Number one target"? Why sooooo looooong in settling the deal over a couple of hundred grand when millions have come on. Incompetence personified imo MHubbs
  • Score: 35

6:30am Fri 15 Aug 14

namgo49 says...

It appears, management at the club are entirely to blame for this fiasco. The player wanted to come here but the powers that be at the club decided to try to screw his existing club and the player to the ground to try to save a few quid. As is they ended up matching the original demands by which time the player had obviously thought better of it and gone elsewhere. In consequence we have missed out on the best player of last season and will end up having to pay more to find someone else, if anyone would want to come to this tainted chalice o a club.

Total misjudgement by the club again thinking that FFP will dull the market. We must be getting the reputation for being the place not to go in spite of the facilities here.

The season has failure written all over it.
It appears, management at the club are entirely to blame for this fiasco. The player wanted to come here but the powers that be at the club decided to try to screw his existing club and the player to the ground to try to save a few quid. As is they ended up matching the original demands by which time the player had obviously thought better of it and gone elsewhere. In consequence we have missed out on the best player of last season and will end up having to pay more to find someone else, if anyone would want to come to this tainted chalice o a club. Total misjudgement by the club again thinking that FFP will dull the market. We must be getting the reputation for being the place not to go in spite of the facilities here. The season has failure written all over it. namgo49
  • Score: 46

6:35am Fri 15 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.
Let's be really honest, we have known ward was a excellent left back since November 2013, we have tried to get him cheap, probably chipped ward down as well, then along come a club who say we what you, here is your contract, no nonsense.... It's like having a mate who is shy of the bar, funny for a while, but annoying after a few weeks..
I seriously can't imagine Burke and bloom think they can target players for year or so, and hope no one else wants them?
Clayton the example .. We nearly scuppered his move to Boro , but failed to convince him, it's like employing a salesman who nearly sold your product! At the end of the day we keep missing... And as a business that means someone leaves.
I also wonder if ward looked at the squad being sold and thought maybe not for me!
I have to say we can blame money, we can blame the players, but nothing is going to change.
End off the day Mark we might off took to long to sign him up, but he was offered the chance off premiership football, maybe for only one season but that said he couldn't turn that down, you can blame who you want but he ain't coming back, that's football time to move on,
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.[/p][/quote]Let's be really honest, we have known ward was a excellent left back since November 2013, we have tried to get him cheap, probably chipped ward down as well, then along come a club who say we what you, here is your contract, no nonsense.... It's like having a mate who is shy of the bar, funny for a while, but annoying after a few weeks.. I seriously can't imagine Burke and bloom think they can target players for year or so, and hope no one else wants them? Clayton the example .. We nearly scuppered his move to Boro , but failed to convince him, it's like employing a salesman who nearly sold your product! At the end of the day we keep missing... And as a business that means someone leaves. I also wonder if ward looked at the squad being sold and thought maybe not for me! I have to say we can blame money, we can blame the players, but nothing is going to change.[/p][/quote]End off the day Mark we might off took to long to sign him up, but he was offered the chance off premiership football, maybe for only one season but that said he couldn't turn that down, you can blame who you want but he ain't coming back, that's football time to move on, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -5

6:41am Fri 15 Aug 14

the taffster says...

Gus poyet and Sunderland said that Brighton are a nightmare to have dealings with in the transfer market and again he's right...in the end ward and his agent got fed up with waiting and their procrastination... After all their faffing around he took a sensible approach and went elsewhere and who can blame him....this deal should have been tied up in may....anyway on the prospective signings front....who will sign for a club that's sold its main core of players....and are in the process of selling more lua lua and Solly.....I think it would be wise for Tony bloom to update the fans on what's happening again.
Gus poyet and Sunderland said that Brighton are a nightmare to have dealings with in the transfer market and again he's right...in the end ward and his agent got fed up with waiting and their procrastination... After all their faffing around he took a sensible approach and went elsewhere and who can blame him....this deal should have been tied up in may....anyway on the prospective signings front....who will sign for a club that's sold its main core of players....and are in the process of selling more lua lua and Solly.....I think it would be wise for Tony bloom to update the fans on what's happening again. the taffster
  • Score: 35

6:44am Fri 15 Aug 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

I wonder when the end of year review takes place at the Amex... You know, that moment when you have to report to the office and talk through your performance over the last 12 months... It goes like this...
"Well David, where are we...? What progress have we made toward our PL ambitions...?" (Pause) "Sorry, I didn't catch that David... Do you mean to say we are nowhere... Where are the players David..?" (Pause) "You don't know..? Why is no-one signing David..? What do you say to put them off..?" (Pause) "David, are you listening... Wait a minute." (Picks up 'phone). "Fiona, taxi for Burke, call Barber in please."
I wonder when the end of year review takes place at the Amex... You know, that moment when you have to report to the office and talk through your performance over the last 12 months... It goes like this... "Well David, where are we...? What progress have we made toward our PL ambitions...?" (Pause) "Sorry, I didn't catch that David... Do you mean to say we are nowhere... Where are the players David..?" (Pause) "You don't know..? Why is no-one signing David..? What do you say to put them off..?" (Pause) "David, are you listening... Wait a minute." (Picks up 'phone). "Fiona, taxi for Burke, call Barber in please." Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 19

6:45am Fri 15 Aug 14

Alfie T says...

Tony Bloom is still learning about the murky world of players,agents and transfers in general, this is a harsh lesson but we move on. Ward was decent, but not even close to Bridge, Burnley and Ward had the opportunity and took it, you can't blame either party.
Tony Bloom is still learning about the murky world of players,agents and transfers in general, this is a harsh lesson but we move on. Ward was decent, but not even close to Bridge, Burnley and Ward had the opportunity and took it, you can't blame either party. Alfie T
  • Score: 10

6:45am Fri 15 Aug 14

Beale32 says...

Good morning!!

another one slips through the very big holes in our net.

on to the next target, if we have any.

keep the faith for those of you who have any left.

uta
Good morning!! another one slips through the very big holes in our net. on to the next target, if we have any. keep the faith for those of you who have any left. uta Beale32
  • Score: 13

6:49am Fri 15 Aug 14

Peppers I says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
I wonder when the end of year review takes place at the Amex... You know, that moment when you have to report to the office and talk through your performance over the last 12 months... It goes like this...
"Well David, where are we...? What progress have we made toward our PL ambitions...?" (Pause) "Sorry, I didn't catch that David... Do you mean to say we are nowhere... Where are the players David..?" (Pause) "You don't know..? Why is no-one signing David..? What do you say to put them off..?" (Pause) "David, are you listening... Wait a minute." (Picks up 'phone). "Fiona, taxi for Burke, call Barber in please."
There are no Premier League ambitions. What we may have to look forward to is the departure of Sami and the arrival of Tony Pulis. He is always good when it comes to relegation battles. Said with a quiet resignation that the club is now no longer about the fans but all about business.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: I wonder when the end of year review takes place at the Amex... You know, that moment when you have to report to the office and talk through your performance over the last 12 months... It goes like this... "Well David, where are we...? What progress have we made toward our PL ambitions...?" (Pause) "Sorry, I didn't catch that David... Do you mean to say we are nowhere... Where are the players David..?" (Pause) "You don't know..? Why is no-one signing David..? What do you say to put them off..?" (Pause) "David, are you listening... Wait a minute." (Picks up 'phone). "Fiona, taxi for Burke, call Barber in please."[/p][/quote]There are no Premier League ambitions. What we may have to look forward to is the departure of Sami and the arrival of Tony Pulis. He is always good when it comes to relegation battles. Said with a quiet resignation that the club is now no longer about the fans but all about business. Peppers I
  • Score: 21

6:59am Fri 15 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.
Let's be really honest, we have known ward was a excellent left back since November 2013, we have tried to get him cheap, probably chipped ward down as well, then along come a club who say we what you, here is your contract, no nonsense.... It's like having a mate who is shy of the bar, funny for a while, but annoying after a few weeks..
I seriously can't imagine Burke and bloom think they can target players for year or so, and hope no one else wants them?
Clayton the example .. We nearly scuppered his move to Boro , but failed to convince him, it's like employing a salesman who nearly sold your product! At the end of the day we keep missing... And as a business that means someone leaves.
I also wonder if ward looked at the squad being sold and thought maybe not for me!
I have to say we can blame money, we can blame the players, but nothing is going to change.
End off the day Mark we might off took to long to sign him up, but he was offered the chance off premiership football, maybe for only one season but that said he couldn't turn that down, you can blame who you want but he ain't coming back, that's football time to move on,
Up the Albion!!
Sorry Jeff but it's not just a question of 'that's football' this is a major screw-up by Bloom and no-one else! We have dicked about to save a few quid and now lost out on one of our major targets who was there for the taking all summer!! If we are poncing about with our other alleged targets like this it is no wonder that we aren't seeing the decent signings that the
3B's seemed to promise! We go into this season so much weaker than last August it is almost unbelievable and sole reason for this and our fall from the high of the Poyet era to our present condition is the major strategic error made by Tony Bloom - the appointment of Paul Barber!! This massively pi55ed off Poyet due to issues they had at Spurs which along with the cost-cutting led to total disaffection from Poyet - have no doubt we would be in the EPL now if Barber hadn't arrived!!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.[/p][/quote]Let's be really honest, we have known ward was a excellent left back since November 2013, we have tried to get him cheap, probably chipped ward down as well, then along come a club who say we what you, here is your contract, no nonsense.... It's like having a mate who is shy of the bar, funny for a while, but annoying after a few weeks.. I seriously can't imagine Burke and bloom think they can target players for year or so, and hope no one else wants them? Clayton the example .. We nearly scuppered his move to Boro , but failed to convince him, it's like employing a salesman who nearly sold your product! At the end of the day we keep missing... And as a business that means someone leaves. I also wonder if ward looked at the squad being sold and thought maybe not for me! I have to say we can blame money, we can blame the players, but nothing is going to change.[/p][/quote]End off the day Mark we might off took to long to sign him up, but he was offered the chance off premiership football, maybe for only one season but that said he couldn't turn that down, you can blame who you want but he ain't coming back, that's football time to move on, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Sorry Jeff but it's not just a question of 'that's football' this is a major screw-up by Bloom and no-one else! We have dicked about to save a few quid and now lost out on one of our major targets who was there for the taking all summer!! If we are poncing about with our other alleged targets like this it is no wonder that we aren't seeing the decent signings that the 3B's seemed to promise! We go into this season so much weaker than last August it is almost unbelievable and sole reason for this and our fall from the high of the Poyet era to our present condition is the major strategic error made by Tony Bloom - the appointment of Paul Barber!! This massively pi55ed off Poyet due to issues they had at Spurs which along with the cost-cutting led to total disaffection from Poyet - have no doubt we would be in the EPL now if Barber hadn't arrived!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 22

7:01am Fri 15 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

P'S I don't believe Hyppia will be here next August at this rate!!
P'S I don't believe Hyppia will be here next August at this rate!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 22

7:03am Fri 15 Aug 14

Dolph Ins says...

Dyche did not walk in yesterday and say we are short of a left back who's around. They have cynically waited for us to do the negotiations and then gone in with a PL wage. We didn't stand a chance. Even if we do have the most expensive tickets and branded hankies in the league we are on a totally different balance sheet to a team in the PL or on parachute payments and we have to do our best until we can do a Burnley and go up on our budget.

Looking at the sub-text of above article it appears we were willing to make Ward our highest earner. I think that shows that we do have the ambition to sign the right players.
Dyche did not walk in yesterday and say we are short of a left back who's around. They have cynically waited for us to do the negotiations and then gone in with a PL wage. We didn't stand a chance. Even if we do have the most expensive tickets and branded hankies in the league we are on a totally different balance sheet to a team in the PL or on parachute payments and we have to do our best until we can do a Burnley and go up on our budget. Looking at the sub-text of above article it appears we were willing to make Ward our highest earner. I think that shows that we do have the ambition to sign the right players. Dolph Ins
  • Score: 0

7:23am Fri 15 Aug 14

Albion fan in London says...

He's not that good I don't know what the fuss is all about
No doubt he is better than what we have but good help Burnley next season they too must be struggling to get players in. I will say it again , there is better out there and we will get them. Still over two weeks to go. Keep the faith.

UTA.
He's not that good I don't know what the fuss is all about No doubt he is better than what we have but good help Burnley next season they too must be struggling to get players in. I will say it again , there is better out there and we will get them. Still over two weeks to go. Keep the faith. UTA. Albion fan in London
  • Score: -1

7:23am Fri 15 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Dolph Ins wrote:
Dyche did not walk in yesterday and say we are short of a left back who's around. They have cynically waited for us to do the negotiations and then gone in with a PL wage. We didn't stand a chance. Even if we do have the most expensive tickets and branded hankies in the league we are on a totally different balance sheet to a team in the PL or on parachute payments and we have to do our best until we can do a Burnley and go up on our budget.

Looking at the sub-text of above article it appears we were willing to make Ward our highest earner. I think that shows that we do have the ambition to sign the right players.
Why would they wait ? If they offered him premiership money?
That's the most ridiculous thing I have read! It's more likely a left back they were after pulled out of the deal , Burnley needed one ASAP , and did the deal!! Obviously Burnley have someone on the phone that plays hard.
Ward was coming for a medical, so Burnley was last minute.
[quote][p][bold]Dolph Ins[/bold] wrote: Dyche did not walk in yesterday and say we are short of a left back who's around. They have cynically waited for us to do the negotiations and then gone in with a PL wage. We didn't stand a chance. Even if we do have the most expensive tickets and branded hankies in the league we are on a totally different balance sheet to a team in the PL or on parachute payments and we have to do our best until we can do a Burnley and go up on our budget. Looking at the sub-text of above article it appears we were willing to make Ward our highest earner. I think that shows that we do have the ambition to sign the right players.[/p][/quote]Why would they wait ? If they offered him premiership money? That's the most ridiculous thing I have read! It's more likely a left back they were after pulled out of the deal , Burnley needed one ASAP , and did the deal!! Obviously Burnley have someone on the phone that plays hard. Ward was coming for a medical, so Burnley was last minute. mark by the sea
  • Score: 10

7:28am Fri 15 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

I'm glad I cancelled my season ticket what as shambles
I'm glad I cancelled my season ticket what as shambles Cliify0002
  • Score: -8

7:39am Fri 15 Aug 14

Peteinblack says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
P'S I don't believe Hyppia will be here next August at this rate!!
I think he'll walk much, much, sooner than next August; wouldn't be surprised if he walked in the next couple of months. (or even weeks).

I haven't felt so angry and annoyed about the management of the Albion since the selling of the Goldstone.

This summer has been a complete and utter fiasco; we're a laughing stock.

Premier League ready!!! We;re pathetic.

Next season, we'll have the best ground and training facilities in League One.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: P'S I don't believe Hyppia will be here next August at this rate!![/p][/quote]I think he'll walk much, much, sooner than next August; wouldn't be surprised if he walked in the next couple of months. (or even weeks). I haven't felt so angry and annoyed about the management of the Albion since the selling of the Goldstone. This summer has been a complete and utter fiasco; we're a laughing stock. Premier League ready!!! We;re pathetic. Next season, we'll have the best ground and training facilities in League One. Peteinblack
  • Score: 25

7:41am Fri 15 Aug 14

Alfie T says...

Cliify0002 wrote:
I'm glad I cancelled my season ticket what as shambles
Don't stand to close to the fire!
[quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: I'm glad I cancelled my season ticket what as shambles[/p][/quote]Don't stand to close to the fire! Alfie T
  • Score: -9

7:42am Fri 15 Aug 14

Phillip Smith says...

it serves us right for messing around trying to be clever. we thought we could leave it until the last minute to sign him, so as to save money on his wages over summer. well done bloom barber and burke. very clever. give yourselves a pat on the back.
it serves us right for messing around trying to be clever. we thought we could leave it until the last minute to sign him, so as to save money on his wages over summer. well done bloom barber and burke. very clever. give yourselves a pat on the back. Phillip Smith
  • Score: 12

7:48am Fri 15 Aug 14

Phillip Smith says...

you would have thought we would have learnt our lesson from the Craig Conway debacle. trying to save a few quid and then sign him on a free. low and behold another club nips in and signs him for a fee. Bloom beware. look at Pulis resigning from Palace. think the same thing could happen with Hypia and us.
you would have thought we would have learnt our lesson from the Craig Conway debacle. trying to save a few quid and then sign him on a free. low and behold another club nips in and signs him for a fee. Bloom beware. look at Pulis resigning from Palace. think the same thing could happen with Hypia and us. Phillip Smith
  • Score: 13

7:54am Fri 15 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

How can you be so inept Mr Bean sorry Mr Burke
How can you be so inept Mr Bean sorry Mr Burke Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 10

7:59am Fri 15 Aug 14

lmspike says...

Should the headline have read " Albion fans fuming as Burke, Bloom and Barber, wait 3 months too long to sign Ward and **** up another transfer window"?
Shambolic !!!!!!!
Should the headline have read " Albion fans fuming as Burke, Bloom and Barber, wait 3 months too long to sign Ward and **** up another transfer window"? Shambolic !!!!!!! lmspike
  • Score: 27

8:01am Fri 15 Aug 14

Dr Wombleface says...

Very disappointing. It's just going from bad to worse at the moment. Bloom needs to ensure we are more assertive in the transfer market. We must speculate to accumulate, and after 2 years of finishing in the top 6, we should be going all out to push for the premiership. The rewards are massive even if we come straight back down, which the board knows of course, but it's acting like they've forgotten. It would be interesting to see the difference in the tone of the conversation if the fans forum took place tonight.
Very disappointing. It's just going from bad to worse at the moment. Bloom needs to ensure we are more assertive in the transfer market. We must speculate to accumulate, and after 2 years of finishing in the top 6, we should be going all out to push for the premiership. The rewards are massive even if we come straight back down, which the board knows of course, but it's acting like they've forgotten. It would be interesting to see the difference in the tone of the conversation if the fans forum took place tonight. Dr Wombleface
  • Score: 9

8:03am Fri 15 Aug 14

hannover seagull says...

A debacle from start to finish,what sort of board allows a player to string them along for months on end only to take the inevitable higher offer
They should have given him a final take it or leave it offer in July and moved on.
Now we are back to square one one with severe loss of face
Like many on here I have not felt so dissapointed with the running of our beloved club since the Archer days
I wonder if the 3Bs are fully aware of the tide of discontent among the fans or do they simply not care
A debacle from start to finish,what sort of board allows a player to string them along for months on end only to take the inevitable higher offer They should have given him a final take it or leave it offer in July and moved on. Now we are back to square one one with severe loss of face Like many on here I have not felt so dissapointed with the running of our beloved club since the Archer days I wonder if the 3Bs are fully aware of the tide of discontent among the fans or do they simply not care hannover seagull
  • Score: 19

8:05am Fri 15 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

So we agreed to break our wage structure for the greedy b***ard and he still jumped at a moment's notice. Football really p*sses me off. Good riddance to him. He and those vile Burnley fans deserve each other.
So we agreed to break our wage structure for the greedy b***ard and he still jumped at a moment's notice. Football really p*sses me off. Good riddance to him. He and those vile Burnley fans deserve each other. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

8:06am Fri 15 Aug 14

chrisg2000 says...

At the fans forum I cynically asked the question "how do you measure success in David Burke's role" to highlight the alarming lack of ability to close a deal. It seems our stance has costed us another player we should have signed in May without a hitch.
I just prey we have six players to come in between now and the end of August, which will at least consolidate what we had last season.
Our squad which won league one is better then what we currently have.
At the fans forum I cynically asked the question "how do you measure success in David Burke's role" to highlight the alarming lack of ability to close a deal. It seems our stance has costed us another player we should have signed in May without a hitch. I just prey we have six players to come in between now and the end of August, which will at least consolidate what we had last season. Our squad which won league one is better then what we currently have. chrisg2000
  • Score: 11

8:07am Fri 15 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

At a six figure fee + £13k per week I'd rather we turned our attention elsewhere anyway. Would prefer Jack Robinson if we could get him....am not just saying that from bitterness btw - said the same last week.
At a six figure fee + £13k per week I'd rather we turned our attention elsewhere anyway. Would prefer Jack Robinson if we could get him....am not just saying that from bitterness btw - said the same last week. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 4

8:28am Fri 15 Aug 14

arc12 says...

The club are entirely to blame for this – if they really did see him as their ‘number 1’ target for the left back role then this should have been tied up weeks ago. It’s horrible being gazumped in the housing market but essentially this is what’s happened to us in respect of Ward and the football market.
This smacks of total incompetence by the club and we are now left with 2 weeks to find the minimum 4 players required IMO : Left back, Creative Midfielder, a Winger to replace Buckley, and a Marquee Centre Forward. And that is the minimum I think we require. I think we have more chance of seeing a ‘marquee’ at a local fete – maybe that’s where we’ve been trying to find players!
The reality appears that if any new faces do come in, in all likelihood they are now only going to be loans and they may well not happen until a week after the transfer window closes – so could be at least 3 weeks away! And in respect of loans, I’m not exactly shaking in my boots as to the thoughts of who they might bring in given our fairly poor record in this department with the likes of Lita, Obika etc.
I hate to seem pessimistic but what hope is there? I’m driving up to Birmingham tonight with the wife to spend the weekend there – the idea was for me to go to the match and she would go shopping. I think I might join her to be honest!
The club are entirely to blame for this – if they really did see him as their ‘number 1’ target for the left back role then this should have been tied up weeks ago. It’s horrible being gazumped in the housing market but essentially this is what’s happened to us in respect of Ward and the football market. This smacks of total incompetence by the club and we are now left with 2 weeks to find the minimum 4 players required IMO : Left back, Creative Midfielder, a Winger to replace Buckley, and a Marquee Centre Forward. And that is the minimum I think we require. I think we have more chance of seeing a ‘marquee’ at a local fete – maybe that’s where we’ve been trying to find players! The reality appears that if any new faces do come in, in all likelihood they are now only going to be loans and they may well not happen until a week after the transfer window closes – so could be at least 3 weeks away! And in respect of loans, I’m not exactly shaking in my boots as to the thoughts of who they might bring in given our fairly poor record in this department with the likes of Lita, Obika etc. I hate to seem pessimistic but what hope is there? I’m driving up to Birmingham tonight with the wife to spend the weekend there – the idea was for me to go to the match and she would go shopping. I think I might join her to be honest! arc12
  • Score: 17

8:39am Fri 15 Aug 14

stonegold says...

"The Seagulls pushed the boat out to land him, reluctantly agreeing to Wolves’ demand for a six-figure fee as well as meeting his £13,000-a-week wages." £500K?! Sounds like a lucky escape to me.
"The Seagulls pushed the boat out to land him, reluctantly agreeing to Wolves’ demand for a six-figure fee as well as meeting his £13,000-a-week wages." £500K?! Sounds like a lucky escape to me. stonegold
  • Score: -2

8:47am Fri 15 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.
We probably used a banana instead of a gun.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: We apparently tried to hijack Clayton's move to Boro and no doubt they were fuming too... Get over it. Some clubs are better at hijacking than others. In fact some clubs are better at recruiting in general than others. That is a little harder to get over, however. Oh well, move on... UTA.[/p][/quote]We probably used a banana instead of a gun. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: 2

8:51am Fri 15 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Are you there Adam Virgo?
Come out, come out wherever you are!!!
Are you there Adam Virgo? Come out, come out wherever you are!!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 5

9:02am Fri 15 Aug 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Acted too late again Burke, you never learn. Should of signed him weeks ago!!! This club never learns!!
Acted too late again Burke, you never learn. Should of signed him weeks ago!!! This club never learns!! Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: 6

9:10am Fri 15 Aug 14

davids1954corvette says...

This all began for me back in the day when we didn't pay the money and let Glenn Murray go? There was the opportunity to blitz the championship with his goals and eventual entry into the premier league. The powers are still not wise after the event ?
This all began for me back in the day when we didn't pay the money and let Glenn Murray go? There was the opportunity to blitz the championship with his goals and eventual entry into the premier league. The powers are still not wise after the event ? davids1954corvette
  • Score: 6

9:10am Fri 15 Aug 14

the taffster says...

Dolph Ins wrote:
Dyche did not walk in yesterday and say we are short of a left back who's around. They have cynically waited for us to do the negotiations and then gone in with a PL wage. We didn't stand a chance. Even if we do have the most expensive tickets and branded hankies in the league we are on a totally different balance sheet to a team in the PL or on parachute payments and we have to do our best until we can do a Burnley and go up on our budget.

Looking at the sub-text of above article it appears we were willing to make Ward our highest earner. I think that shows that we do have the ambition to sign the right players.
The club should have signed Steven ward in may...he wanted to come and we wanted him...it was delayed till the last minute to see if the club could get him on the cheap and it backfired...no excuses.
[quote][p][bold]Dolph Ins[/bold] wrote: Dyche did not walk in yesterday and say we are short of a left back who's around. They have cynically waited for us to do the negotiations and then gone in with a PL wage. We didn't stand a chance. Even if we do have the most expensive tickets and branded hankies in the league we are on a totally different balance sheet to a team in the PL or on parachute payments and we have to do our best until we can do a Burnley and go up on our budget. Looking at the sub-text of above article it appears we were willing to make Ward our highest earner. I think that shows that we do have the ambition to sign the right players.[/p][/quote]The club should have signed Steven ward in may...he wanted to come and we wanted him...it was delayed till the last minute to see if the club could get him on the cheap and it backfired...no excuses. the taffster
  • Score: 9

9:20am Fri 15 Aug 14

SonnyJim55 says...

The Three Stooges strike again. A fiasco of the highest order. Sami will be walking very soon and who could blame him. And some on here are talking about pulis coming? Ha ha behave yourselves, he has just left palarse because he didn't have enough control over transfers amongst other things so why would he jump from the frying pan into an inferno? No manager worth his salt would want to work with this lot. No wonder they wanted nathan jones to stay, he will be the cheapest replacement for hyppia they could ever hope for.
The Three Stooges strike again. A fiasco of the highest order. Sami will be walking very soon and who could blame him. And some on here are talking about pulis coming? Ha ha behave yourselves, he has just left palarse because he didn't have enough control over transfers amongst other things so why would he jump from the frying pan into an inferno? No manager worth his salt would want to work with this lot. No wonder they wanted nathan jones to stay, he will be the cheapest replacement for hyppia they could ever hope for. SonnyJim55
  • Score: 4

9:23am Fri 15 Aug 14

albionfan33 says...

Alfie T wrote:
Tony Bloom is still learning about the murky world of players,agents and transfers in general, this is a harsh lesson but we move on. Ward was decent, but not even close to Bridge, Burnley and Ward had the opportunity and took it, you can't blame either party.
and you think its likely that another bridge will fall into our laps?? ward was easily the best available for a very good price. who probably should of been signed the moment wolves said he was surplus to requirements
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Tony Bloom is still learning about the murky world of players,agents and transfers in general, this is a harsh lesson but we move on. Ward was decent, but not even close to Bridge, Burnley and Ward had the opportunity and took it, you can't blame either party.[/p][/quote]and you think its likely that another bridge will fall into our laps?? ward was easily the best available for a very good price. who probably should of been signed the moment wolves said he was surplus to requirements albionfan33
  • Score: 1

9:24am Fri 15 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

I think Sami will leave shortly I don't blame him
I think Sami will leave shortly I don't blame him Cliify0002
  • Score: -4

9:29am Fri 15 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

Dr Wombleface wrote:
Very disappointing. It's just going from bad to worse at the moment. Bloom needs to ensure we are more assertive in the transfer market. We must speculate to accumulate, and after 2 years of finishing in the top 6, we should be going all out to push for the premiership. The rewards are massive even if we come straight back down, which the board knows of course, but it's acting like they've forgotten. It would be interesting to see the difference in the tone of the conversation if the fans forum took place tonight.
I'm afraid if the Fans Forum took place tonight the result would be exactly the same as it was a hand picked crowd with hand picked soft questions to which the board gave soft placating answers. The board don't want us to question their motives or abilities or tactics. They have an agenda which doesn't involve any participation from the fans except that we have to keep buying the tickets, beer, shirts, burgers, key rings, posters, monogrammed socks, blue and white wigs, cuddly toys and mugs - oh sorry, it's us who are the mugs..............

Tony Bloom has just lost another game of poker as he did with Clayton, Baldock, Grabban and who knows how many others. He's lost his Midas touch completely.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Wombleface[/bold] wrote: Very disappointing. It's just going from bad to worse at the moment. Bloom needs to ensure we are more assertive in the transfer market. We must speculate to accumulate, and after 2 years of finishing in the top 6, we should be going all out to push for the premiership. The rewards are massive even if we come straight back down, which the board knows of course, but it's acting like they've forgotten. It would be interesting to see the difference in the tone of the conversation if the fans forum took place tonight.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid if the Fans Forum took place tonight the result would be exactly the same as it was a hand picked crowd with hand picked soft questions to which the board gave soft placating answers. The board don't want us to question their motives or abilities or tactics. They have an agenda which doesn't involve any participation from the fans except that we have to keep buying the tickets, beer, shirts, burgers, key rings, posters, monogrammed socks, blue and white wigs, cuddly toys and mugs - oh sorry, it's us who are the mugs.............. Tony Bloom has just lost another game of poker as he did with Clayton, Baldock, Grabban and who knows how many others. He's lost his Midas touch completely. Max Ripple
  • Score: 7

9:33am Fri 15 Aug 14

Brucie Forsythe says...

Wait until Sept 1st to see who and if we get any new signings. Then we can judge on how succesful the 3 B's have or have not been. Not confident that we are going to get any quality though ! At the end of the day its the player who makes the decision on who to play for and it seems to come down to wages and length of contract ! Pullis would not come here as he would be in the same scenario as what he was in at Palace ! If Sami goes then reckon Burke wil get promoted to Manager !
Wait until Sept 1st to see who and if we get any new signings. Then we can judge on how succesful the 3 B's have or have not been. Not confident that we are going to get any quality though ! At the end of the day its the player who makes the decision on who to play for and it seems to come down to wages and length of contract ! Pullis would not come here as he would be in the same scenario as what he was in at Palace ! If Sami goes then reckon Burke wil get promoted to Manager ! Brucie Forsythe
  • Score: -1

9:38am Fri 15 Aug 14

tinker111 says...

MHubbs wrote:
We got what we deserved on this one. "Number one target"? Why sooooo looooong in settling the deal over a couple of hundred grand when millions have come on. Incompetence personified imo
YES AND IT IS THE THREE B'S TO BLAME DRAGING FEET , IT MAYBE THEY ONLY WANT THE MONEY.
[quote][p][bold]MHubbs[/bold] wrote: We got what we deserved on this one. "Number one target"? Why sooooo looooong in settling the deal over a couple of hundred grand when millions have come on. Incompetence personified imo[/p][/quote]YES AND IT IS THE THREE B'S TO BLAME DRAGING FEET , IT MAYBE THEY ONLY WANT THE MONEY. tinker111
  • Score: -1

9:38am Fri 15 Aug 14

tug509 says...

Well it would seem that poker is sod all like football Mr Bloom !
Why cant you see what everyone else can ,B&B are the root cause of all this trouble . You tried to save a few quid and failed miserably , you now have a SERIOUSLY depleted squad but a great deal of money ,here`s YOUR only choice . Sign 5 or 6 GOOD players and you just might turn it around enough to keep the gates and stay in the Championship . Don't and all the money from the players sold will be eaten up by the lower gates and lost revenue over the coming season ,and relegation will be a distinct likelihood .OMO of course and what would I know , apart from the fact that myself and about 30,000 Albion supporters saw this coming last year ,although in fairness the total ****-up is far more comprehensive than I could have imagined .
Congratulations the 3 of you have finally found something you are good at !.
Well it would seem that poker is sod all like football Mr Bloom ! Why cant you see what everyone else can ,B&B are the root cause of all this trouble . You tried to save a few quid and failed miserably , you now have a SERIOUSLY depleted squad but a great deal of money ,here`s YOUR only choice . Sign 5 or 6 GOOD players and you just might turn it around enough to keep the gates and stay in the Championship . Don't and all the money from the players sold will be eaten up by the lower gates and lost revenue over the coming season ,and relegation will be a distinct likelihood .OMO of course and what would I know , apart from the fact that myself and about 30,000 Albion supporters saw this coming last year ,although in fairness the total ****-up is far more comprehensive than I could have imagined . Congratulations the 3 of you have finally found something you are good at !. tug509
  • Score: 3

9:39am Fri 15 Aug 14

bbb1969 says...

Eith what we have we really need to give the players like Chicksen a go. It's just confidence with him but he has pace and can pass and has started attacking more. Nothing against Calde but you cannot cover a position you are not used o without risk. Lets just play what players we have and let them go for it in their correct positions. If they don't pegprm then we identify targets before Jan and offload ONCE we have players in.
Regarding Ward; great champ player but look at all the right wingers and right midfielders that he will be up against in the pl.
Looks like Burnley are maintaing a cheap team for when they drop back down to champ level
Eith what we have we really need to give the players like Chicksen a go. It's just confidence with him but he has pace and can pass and has started attacking more. Nothing against Calde but you cannot cover a position you are not used o without risk. Lets just play what players we have and let them go for it in their correct positions. If they don't pegprm then we identify targets before Jan and offload ONCE we have players in. Regarding Ward; great champ player but look at all the right wingers and right midfielders that he will be up against in the pl. Looks like Burnley are maintaing a cheap team for when they drop back down to champ level bbb1969
  • Score: -3

9:42am Fri 15 Aug 14

OldGull says...

Cliify0002 wrote:
I'm glad I cancelled my season ticket what as shambles
yes dear,
As if you ever had one
[quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: I'm glad I cancelled my season ticket what as shambles[/p][/quote]yes dear, As if you ever had one OldGull
  • Score: 9

9:43am Fri 15 Aug 14

The Droveway says...

Barnes recomends Ward, Upson - Ulloa, Bridcutt and Poyet get Buckley.

The focus of players is the next league up, £££ etc and they all talk.

Remember we have come from a modest club @ The Goldstone to no ground, Withdean and now the best ground and facilities for miles.

I fear the mixing of suits and dressing room is toxic and until they are separated, success will be just a dream.

The dream came to The Goldstone, good players, big crowds and Alan Mullery. He must be a major influence going forward. Sooner rather thaan later.

Also. Please stop knocking The Chairman. T'is his pocket and his family's enthusiasm over decades which has made this all possible.
Barnes recomends Ward, Upson - Ulloa, Bridcutt and Poyet get Buckley. The focus of players is the next league up, £££ etc and they all talk. Remember we have come from a modest club @ The Goldstone to no ground, Withdean and now the best ground and facilities for miles. I fear the mixing of suits and dressing room is toxic and until they are separated, success will be just a dream. The dream came to The Goldstone, good players, big crowds and Alan Mullery. He must be a major influence going forward. Sooner rather thaan later. Also. Please stop knocking The Chairman. T'is his pocket and his family's enthusiasm over decades which has made this all possible. The Droveway
  • Score: 1

9:46am Fri 15 Aug 14

driverchris53 says...

if we hadn't taken so long sorting the deal perhaps it would have gone through weeks ago.Sadly there is something extremely incompetent about Burke and his team.Think back to Grabban;that looked a done deal and fell through because we were so slow and fussy about every minute detail. The squad is getting dangerously small now;only really 14 players you could call first teamers.
if we hadn't taken so long sorting the deal perhaps it would have gone through weeks ago.Sadly there is something extremely incompetent about Burke and his team.Think back to Grabban;that looked a done deal and fell through because we were so slow and fussy about every minute detail. The squad is getting dangerously small now;only really 14 players you could call first teamers. driverchris53
  • Score: 3

9:46am Fri 15 Aug 14

Poolegul says...

13K per week by my reckoning is £676000 per year which is a rediculous amount of money and is he really worth it? However I agree our transfer dealings are very worrying at present and it does not reflect a Club with ambition to be a PL player. Mid table at best nad how will this affect the moral of players and manager to say nothing of fans? Looks like a rough ride combined with the fact that the season has started which seems to have alluded the management team!! I wait with some trepidation to see the out come.
13K per week by my reckoning is £676000 per year which is a rediculous amount of money and is he really worth it? However I agree our transfer dealings are very worrying at present and it does not reflect a Club with ambition to be a PL player. Mid table at best nad how will this affect the moral of players and manager to say nothing of fans? Looks like a rough ride combined with the fact that the season has started which seems to have alluded the management team!! I wait with some trepidation to see the out come. Poolegul
  • Score: 1

9:52am Fri 15 Aug 14

tug509 says...

The Droveway wrote:
Barnes recomends Ward, Upson - Ulloa, Bridcutt and Poyet get Buckley.

The focus of players is the next league up, £££ etc and they all talk.

Remember we have come from a modest club @ The Goldstone to no ground, Withdean and now the best ground and facilities for miles.

I fear the mixing of suits and dressing room is toxic and until they are separated, success will be just a dream.

The dream came to The Goldstone, good players, big crowds and Alan Mullery. He must be a major influence going forward. Sooner rather thaan later.

Also. Please stop knocking The Chairman. T'is his pocket and his family's enthusiasm over decades which has made this all possible.
Yes but unfortunately it will be his bad choices that could undo all the good and put us back years ,this is the 3rd season running this has happened ,this being the worst ,unyet he still sticks with a losing formula in Barber and Burke .
[quote][p][bold]The Droveway[/bold] wrote: Barnes recomends Ward, Upson - Ulloa, Bridcutt and Poyet get Buckley. The focus of players is the next league up, £££ etc and they all talk. Remember we have come from a modest club @ The Goldstone to no ground, Withdean and now the best ground and facilities for miles. I fear the mixing of suits and dressing room is toxic and until they are separated, success will be just a dream. The dream came to The Goldstone, good players, big crowds and Alan Mullery. He must be a major influence going forward. Sooner rather thaan later. Also. Please stop knocking The Chairman. T'is his pocket and his family's enthusiasm over decades which has made this all possible.[/p][/quote]Yes but unfortunately it will be his bad choices that could undo all the good and put us back years ,this is the 3rd season running this has happened ,this being the worst ,unyet he still sticks with a losing formula in Barber and Burke . tug509
  • Score: 3

10:02am Fri 15 Aug 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

I would be annoyed if we did cave in and agree the extra wages we had the guy here for a year, just shows that none of the suites are good communicators too aloof and up there own A#$€$, get a decent negotiator in to work under Burke or sack the bloke altogether, on the other hand we must not panic buy I can't believe there is not someone in the lower league or abroad where has our scouting network been for the last year.
Get a grip Tony.
I would be annoyed if we did cave in and agree the extra wages we had the guy here for a year, just shows that none of the suites are good communicators too aloof and up there own A#$€$, get a decent negotiator in to work under Burke or sack the bloke altogether, on the other hand we must not panic buy I can't believe there is not someone in the lower league or abroad where has our scouting network been for the last year. Get a grip Tony. Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 1

10:03am Fri 15 Aug 14

Hovenick says...

On the 1st September, is it too much to ask that Tony Bloom makes a statement to the fans, either saying "The negotiating team were acting under the restraints put on by the board and theefore failed to land their targets" or "The negotiating team were given their head and have failed. They have shown themselves to be inept, and I am relieving them of their position" It has to be one or the other. The fans deserve this amount of honesty
On the 1st September, is it too much to ask that Tony Bloom makes a statement to the fans, either saying "The negotiating team were acting under the restraints put on by the board and theefore failed to land their targets" or "The negotiating team were given their head and have failed. They have shown themselves to be inept, and I am relieving them of their position" It has to be one or the other. The fans deserve this amount of honesty Hovenick
  • Score: 7

10:07am Fri 15 Aug 14

jockithenoo says...

IT'S GOING TO BE FINE WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE PREM !!!!!!!!!
ERRRRMMMMM ISN'T THAT FIVE YEARS NOW ??????????
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WERE DOING! !!!!!
THUMBS DOWN FROM THE USUAL ROSE TINTED GLASSES BRIGADE
IT'S GOING TO BE FINE WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE PREM !!!!!!!!! ERRRRMMMMM ISN'T THAT FIVE YEARS NOW ?????????? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WERE DOING! !!!!! THUMBS DOWN FROM THE USUAL ROSE TINTED GLASSES BRIGADE jockithenoo
  • Score: -1

10:31am Fri 15 Aug 14

JohnnyCrumplinFootballGenius says...

There's no way Ward would have been our top earner - for the record CMS is..
There's no way Ward would have been our top earner - for the record CMS is.. JohnnyCrumplinFootballGenius
  • Score: 1

10:52am Fri 15 Aug 14

brightonup says...

Cliify0002 wrote:
I think Sami will leave shortly I don't blame him
Are you still here?
[quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: I think Sami will leave shortly I don't blame him[/p][/quote]Are you still here? brightonup
  • Score: -1

10:55am Fri 15 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

Dr Wombleface wrote:
Very disappointing. It's just going from bad to worse at the moment. Bloom needs to ensure we are more assertive in the transfer market. We must speculate to accumulate, and after 2 years of finishing in the top 6, we should be going all out to push for the premiership. The rewards are massive even if we come straight back down, which the board knows of course, but it's acting like they've forgotten. It would be interesting to see the difference in the tone of the conversation if the fans forum took place tonight.
Hello Doctor, can you prescribe me a large dose of anti depressants please?
[quote][p][bold]Dr Wombleface[/bold] wrote: Very disappointing. It's just going from bad to worse at the moment. Bloom needs to ensure we are more assertive in the transfer market. We must speculate to accumulate, and after 2 years of finishing in the top 6, we should be going all out to push for the premiership. The rewards are massive even if we come straight back down, which the board knows of course, but it's acting like they've forgotten. It would be interesting to see the difference in the tone of the conversation if the fans forum took place tonight.[/p][/quote]Hello Doctor, can you prescribe me a large dose of anti depressants please? dave from bexill
  • Score: 1

10:56am Fri 15 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

So we get Robinson from Liverpool for the season........simple
s.
So we get Robinson from Liverpool for the season........simple s. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 1

11:00am Fri 15 Aug 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

tug509 wrote:
Well it would seem that poker is sod all like football Mr Bloom !
Why cant you see what everyone else can ,B&B are the root cause of all this trouble . You tried to save a few quid and failed miserably , you now have a SERIOUSLY depleted squad but a great deal of money ,here`s YOUR only choice . Sign 5 or 6 GOOD players and you just might turn it around enough to keep the gates and stay in the Championship . Don't and all the money from the players sold will be eaten up by the lower gates and lost revenue over the coming season ,and relegation will be a distinct likelihood .OMO of course and what would I know , apart from the fact that myself and about 30,000 Albion supporters saw this coming last year ,although in fairness the total ****-up is far more comprehensive than I could have imagined .
Congratulations the 3 of you have finally found something you are good at !.
C'mon Tug, enough of this ****-footing round the issue - tell us what you really think. LOL. I see the 3 Monkey Brigade seem to be beating a retreat... Not a single See, Hear or Say No Evil merchant to be seen for miles. The message is getting through to some. Unfortunately not yet to those that matter.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Well it would seem that poker is sod all like football Mr Bloom ! Why cant you see what everyone else can ,B&B are the root cause of all this trouble . You tried to save a few quid and failed miserably , you now have a SERIOUSLY depleted squad but a great deal of money ,here`s YOUR only choice . Sign 5 or 6 GOOD players and you just might turn it around enough to keep the gates and stay in the Championship . Don't and all the money from the players sold will be eaten up by the lower gates and lost revenue over the coming season ,and relegation will be a distinct likelihood .OMO of course and what would I know , apart from the fact that myself and about 30,000 Albion supporters saw this coming last year ,although in fairness the total ****-up is far more comprehensive than I could have imagined . Congratulations the 3 of you have finally found something you are good at !.[/p][/quote]C'mon Tug, enough of this ****-footing round the issue - tell us what you really think. LOL. I see the 3 Monkey Brigade seem to be beating a retreat... Not a single See, Hear or Say No Evil merchant to be seen for miles. The message is getting through to some. Unfortunately not yet to those that matter. Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 4

11:01am Fri 15 Aug 14

rolivan says...

According to Sky Sports News Ward did have a Medical and Burnley then came in could we have some clarification from the Club?
According to Sky Sports News Ward did have a Medical and Burnley then came in could we have some clarification from the Club? rolivan
  • Score: 0

11:04am Fri 15 Aug 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Ha ha, they've just censored a commonly used word for a small cat... Who produces that list of forbidden words... Ms Galore...?
Ha ha, they've just censored a commonly used word for a small cat... Who produces that list of forbidden words... Ms Galore...? Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 0

11:14am Fri 15 Aug 14

Alan G Skinner says...

Given how hard the club has worked to comply with financial fair play , I hope the Football League will not let us down by not severely punishing the long list of clubs who brazenly flout the rules. If eight or nine Championship Clubs are given transfer embargo, are deducted points and given large fines then compliance with FFP would seem a burden worth the pain. However if these clubs who spend spend spend and are not punished, we look very foolish, albeit responsible.
Given how hard the club has worked to comply with financial fair play , I hope the Football League will not let us down by not severely punishing the long list of clubs who brazenly flout the rules. If eight or nine Championship Clubs are given transfer embargo, are deducted points and given large fines then compliance with FFP would seem a burden worth the pain. However if these clubs who spend spend spend and are not punished, we look very foolish, albeit responsible. Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 6

11:16am Fri 15 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Ha ha, they've just censored a commonly used word for a small cat... Who produces that list of forbidden words... Ms Galore...?
The software that runs this forum has it's own list of banned words, and I am pretty certain that it's an American product, it has been on various forums over here for a few years, but now dropped by sum. The Argus are not doing it.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Ha ha, they've just censored a commonly used word for a small cat... Who produces that list of forbidden words... Ms Galore...?[/p][/quote]The software that runs this forum has it's own list of banned words, and I am pretty certain that it's an American product, it has been on various forums over here for a few years, but now dropped by sum. The Argus are not doing it. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -3

11:21am Fri 15 Aug 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Has anyone else checked out the Burnley and Wolves sites...? No mention of Ward on the official Burnley and not a lot on Wolves' sites other than to continue this morning with talk of the agreed deal at B'ton.

What the **** is really going on...?
Has anyone else checked out the Burnley and Wolves sites...? No mention of Ward on the official Burnley and not a lot on Wolves' sites other than to continue this morning with talk of the agreed deal at B'ton. What the **** is really going on...? Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 1

11:25am Fri 15 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

It was said that Wolves only wanted a nominal six figure sum for Ward, I read one report this morning that suggests the, 'nominal,' figure was 500K, not exactly nominal. If this figure is correct, and then you add the extra 3K which we didn't want to pay, over a three year deal Ward would have cost us 950K over and above the 10K a week we were prepared to pay. Was Ward such a good target at 950K + wages?
It was said that Wolves only wanted a nominal six figure sum for Ward, I read one report this morning that suggests the, 'nominal,' figure was 500K, not exactly nominal. If this figure is correct, and then you add the extra 3K which we didn't want to pay, over a three year deal Ward would have cost us 950K over and above the 10K a week we were prepared to pay. Was Ward such a good target at 950K + wages? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

11:25am Fri 15 Aug 14

taylord1977 says...

Björk - It's Oh So Quiet springs to mind

www.youtube.com/watc
h?v=G1A_uSEjTIQ
Björk - It's Oh So Quiet springs to mind www.youtube.com/watc h?v=G1A_uSEjTIQ taylord1977
  • Score: 1

11:33am Fri 15 Aug 14

SonnyJim55 says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Given how hard the club has worked to comply with financial fair play , I hope the Football League will not let us down by not severely punishing the long list of clubs who brazenly flout the rules. If eight or nine Championship Clubs are given transfer embargo, are deducted points and given large fines then compliance with FFP would seem a burden worth the pain. However if these clubs who spend spend spend and are not punished, we look very foolish, albeit responsible.
Do you really think all these clubs are going to have these sanctions applied? It is never going to happen. At most it will be a smack on the wrist
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: Given how hard the club has worked to comply with financial fair play , I hope the Football League will not let us down by not severely punishing the long list of clubs who brazenly flout the rules. If eight or nine Championship Clubs are given transfer embargo, are deducted points and given large fines then compliance with FFP would seem a burden worth the pain. However if these clubs who spend spend spend and are not punished, we look very foolish, albeit responsible.[/p][/quote]Do you really think all these clubs are going to have these sanctions applied? It is never going to happen. At most it will be a smack on the wrist SonnyJim55
  • Score: 7

11:44am Fri 15 Aug 14

tug509 says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Well it would seem that poker is sod all like football Mr Bloom !
Why cant you see what everyone else can ,B&B are the root cause of all this trouble . You tried to save a few quid and failed miserably , you now have a SERIOUSLY depleted squad but a great deal of money ,here`s YOUR only choice . Sign 5 or 6 GOOD players and you just might turn it around enough to keep the gates and stay in the Championship . Don't and all the money from the players sold will be eaten up by the lower gates and lost revenue over the coming season ,and relegation will be a distinct likelihood .OMO of course and what would I know , apart from the fact that myself and about 30,000 Albion supporters saw this coming last year ,although in fairness the total ****-up is far more comprehensive than I could have imagined .
Congratulations the 3 of you have finally found something you are good at !.
C'mon Tug, enough of this ****-footing round the issue - tell us what you really think. LOL. I see the 3 Monkey Brigade seem to be beating a retreat... Not a single See, Hear or Say No Evil merchant to be seen for miles. The message is getting through to some. Unfortunately not yet to those that matter.
Hi JM ,
Yes I really must learn to come out of my shell :0) ,I just find it hard to believe that so called intelligent businessmen can screw up so publically with ,what is an institution to so many of us . A man who had the support of every single Albion supporter ,and who had the complete trust of us all ,unyet doesn`t trust us enough to let us know what is going on . If there are problems within the club ,tell us ,he might be very surprised at the support he would be given ,but he is driving an "us and them" type wedge between us imho ,and that comes across as contempt in my book .
I am well aware of my head strong posts ,but they are honestly born out of love for our Great club ,not out of malicious thought toward an individual ,even though sometimes it feels that way .
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Well it would seem that poker is sod all like football Mr Bloom ! Why cant you see what everyone else can ,B&B are the root cause of all this trouble . You tried to save a few quid and failed miserably , you now have a SERIOUSLY depleted squad but a great deal of money ,here`s YOUR only choice . Sign 5 or 6 GOOD players and you just might turn it around enough to keep the gates and stay in the Championship . Don't and all the money from the players sold will be eaten up by the lower gates and lost revenue over the coming season ,and relegation will be a distinct likelihood .OMO of course and what would I know , apart from the fact that myself and about 30,000 Albion supporters saw this coming last year ,although in fairness the total ****-up is far more comprehensive than I could have imagined . Congratulations the 3 of you have finally found something you are good at !.[/p][/quote]C'mon Tug, enough of this ****-footing round the issue - tell us what you really think. LOL. I see the 3 Monkey Brigade seem to be beating a retreat... Not a single See, Hear or Say No Evil merchant to be seen for miles. The message is getting through to some. Unfortunately not yet to those that matter.[/p][/quote]Hi JM , Yes I really must learn to come out of my shell :0) ,I just find it hard to believe that so called intelligent businessmen can screw up so publically with ,what is an institution to so many of us . A man who had the support of every single Albion supporter ,and who had the complete trust of us all ,unyet doesn`t trust us enough to let us know what is going on . If there are problems within the club ,tell us ,he might be very surprised at the support he would be given ,but he is driving an "us and them" type wedge between us imho ,and that comes across as contempt in my book . I am well aware of my head strong posts ,but they are honestly born out of love for our Great club ,not out of malicious thought toward an individual ,even though sometimes it feels that way . tug509
  • Score: 8

11:50am Fri 15 Aug 14

jockithenoo says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Given how hard the club has worked to comply with financial fair play , I hope the Football League will not let us down by not severely punishing the long list of clubs who brazenly flout the rules. If eight or nine Championship Clubs are given transfer embargo, are deducted points and given large fines then compliance with FFP would seem a burden worth the pain. However if these clubs who spend spend spend and are not punished, we look very foolish, albeit responsible.
Q.P.R SPENT MILLIONS OVER FFP GOT PROMOTION AND THE LEAGUE CAN'T TOUCH THEM BECAUSE THAT ARE IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE CANT ENFORCE ANY PENALTIES ON PREM CLUBS
SO FFP DOESN'T WORK
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: Given how hard the club has worked to comply with financial fair play , I hope the Football League will not let us down by not severely punishing the long list of clubs who brazenly flout the rules. If eight or nine Championship Clubs are given transfer embargo, are deducted points and given large fines then compliance with FFP would seem a burden worth the pain. However if these clubs who spend spend spend and are not punished, we look very foolish, albeit responsible.[/p][/quote]Q.P.R SPENT MILLIONS OVER FFP GOT PROMOTION AND THE LEAGUE CAN'T TOUCH THEM BECAUSE THAT ARE IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE. THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE CANT ENFORCE ANY PENALTIES ON PREM CLUBS SO FFP DOESN'T WORK jockithenoo
  • Score: 5

12:00pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

OldGull wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote: I'm glad I cancelled my season ticket what as shambles
yes dear, As if you ever had one
I had one have had for years even at the foldstone
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: I'm glad I cancelled my season ticket what as shambles[/p][/quote]yes dear, As if you ever had one[/p][/quote]I had one have had for years even at the foldstone Cliify0002
  • Score: -3

12:03pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

The Droveway wrote:
Barnes recomends Ward, Upson - Ulloa, Bridcutt and Poyet get Buckley.

The focus of players is the next league up, £££ etc and they all talk.

Remember we have come from a modest club @ The Goldstone to no ground, Withdean and now the best ground and facilities for miles.

I fear the mixing of suits and dressing room is toxic and until they are separated, success will be just a dream.

The dream came to The Goldstone, good players, big crowds and Alan Mullery. He must be a major influence going forward. Sooner rather thaan later.

Also. Please stop knocking The Chairman. T'is his pocket and his family's enthusiasm over decades which has made this all possible.
I'm not knocking TB. God knows he has invested soooo much of his cash into the club. None of us could have done anything like it. And the academy/training ground is phenomenal. But I think he has lost sight of what Barber and Burke are doing to the club. Burke is obviously a liability. And should go. Now. Barber is like some kind of megalomaniac puppeteer who controls all the business strings. Lets not forget that things started to go downhill with Gus when he arrived.
[quote][p][bold]The Droveway[/bold] wrote: Barnes recomends Ward, Upson - Ulloa, Bridcutt and Poyet get Buckley. The focus of players is the next league up, £££ etc and they all talk. Remember we have come from a modest club @ The Goldstone to no ground, Withdean and now the best ground and facilities for miles. I fear the mixing of suits and dressing room is toxic and until they are separated, success will be just a dream. The dream came to The Goldstone, good players, big crowds and Alan Mullery. He must be a major influence going forward. Sooner rather thaan later. Also. Please stop knocking The Chairman. T'is his pocket and his family's enthusiasm over decades which has made this all possible.[/p][/quote]I'm not knocking TB. God knows he has invested soooo much of his cash into the club. None of us could have done anything like it. And the academy/training ground is phenomenal. But I think he has lost sight of what Barber and Burke are doing to the club. Burke is obviously a liability. And should go. Now. Barber is like some kind of megalomaniac puppeteer who controls all the business strings. Lets not forget that things started to go downhill with Gus when he arrived. Max Ripple
  • Score: 4

12:06pm Fri 15 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Maybe it's time we we looked over seas to find a few players. This window has seen us very much focus on players that are in the UK market, and as we all know that has not turned out too well for us. I can't believe that there are not players in the European countries that would do well in the Champ Div, even if they only came on a loan deal.
Forget about Spain, Italy, Germany and the like, what about places such as Sweden, Switzerland and Norway, the slightly less glamorous footballing countries. Do we even have a scouting network that is looking in such places?
Maybe it's time we we looked over seas to find a few players. This window has seen us very much focus on players that are in the UK market, and as we all know that has not turned out too well for us. I can't believe that there are not players in the European countries that would do well in the Champ Div, even if they only came on a loan deal. Forget about Spain, Italy, Germany and the like, what about places such as Sweden, Switzerland and Norway, the slightly less glamorous footballing countries. Do we even have a scouting network that is looking in such places? VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

12:14pm Fri 15 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

davids1954corvette wrote:
This all began for me back in the day when we didn't pay the money and let Glenn Murray go? There was the opportunity to blitz the championship with his goals and eventual entry into the premier league. The powers are still not wise after the event ?
Spot on! I was thinking EXACTLY the same about Murray this morning - he wanted to stay and we let him go because we wouldn't pay another £2k a week!! The board may have a long-term plan but in the short-term they have clearly screwed up!!
[quote][p][bold]davids1954corvette[/bold] wrote: This all began for me back in the day when we didn't pay the money and let Glenn Murray go? There was the opportunity to blitz the championship with his goals and eventual entry into the premier league. The powers are still not wise after the event ?[/p][/quote]Spot on! I was thinking EXACTLY the same about Murray this morning - he wanted to stay and we let him go because we wouldn't pay another £2k a week!! The board may have a long-term plan but in the short-term they have clearly screwed up!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 2

12:15pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Grummitt says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
It was said that Wolves only wanted a nominal six figure sum for Ward, I read one report this morning that suggests the, 'nominal,' figure was 500K, not exactly nominal. If this figure is correct, and then you add the extra 3K which we didn't want to pay, over a three year deal Ward would have cost us 950K over and above the 10K a week we were prepared to pay. Was Ward such a good target at 950K + wages?
Vegas, Left Back is one of the hardest positions to fill. It is the only position where you need a left footed player. You cannot fill in with a right back like we have tried with Calde it does not work. So that said £950k plus wages for a tried and tested top Championship left back IMO would be the going rate. The fact that we finally gave in to those terms shows that we have no back up plan. Let's hope the rumours about Jack Robinson are not just that and that there is an element of substance in it.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It was said that Wolves only wanted a nominal six figure sum for Ward, I read one report this morning that suggests the, 'nominal,' figure was 500K, not exactly nominal. If this figure is correct, and then you add the extra 3K which we didn't want to pay, over a three year deal Ward would have cost us 950K over and above the 10K a week we were prepared to pay. Was Ward such a good target at 950K + wages?[/p][/quote]Vegas, Left Back is one of the hardest positions to fill. It is the only position where you need a left footed player. You cannot fill in with a right back like we have tried with Calde it does not work. So that said £950k plus wages for a tried and tested top Championship left back IMO would be the going rate. The fact that we finally gave in to those terms shows that we have no back up plan. Let's hope the rumours about Jack Robinson are not just that and that there is an element of substance in it. Grummitt
  • Score: 3

12:23pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Seagulls High says...

The fact remains that although Buckley was one of our best players he wanted to play elsewhere in the Premiership. It is also the same for Ward and Ulloa. Star players being lured by large amounts of Money. The Glass is Half Full. Sami has not had the time as yet, to stamp his authority on the side or to bring in the players he wants. He has only been in charge for One Game. I am sure that Albion will bring in new faces by the end of August, but they have to be the right players for the Club. There is no point spending on players who do not suit are style of play. We still have CMS, Lua Lua and O Grady, Solly March and Caskey. We are strong defensively with Stockdale, Greer, Bruno, Calderon, and Dunk, Chicksen et all. Playing all Three strikers CMS, O Grady and Lua Lua from the start could work. As Burnley got promotion fielding three strikers in my view last season.
The fact remains that although Buckley was one of our best players he wanted to play elsewhere in the Premiership. It is also the same for Ward and Ulloa. Star players being lured by large amounts of Money. The Glass is Half Full. Sami has not had the time as yet, to stamp his authority on the side or to bring in the players he wants. He has only been in charge for One Game. I am sure that Albion will bring in new faces by the end of August, but they have to be the right players for the Club. There is no point spending on players who do not suit are style of play. We still have CMS, Lua Lua and O Grady, Solly March and Caskey. We are strong defensively with Stockdale, Greer, Bruno, Calderon, and Dunk, Chicksen et all. Playing all Three strikers CMS, O Grady and Lua Lua from the start could work. As Burnley got promotion fielding three strikers in my view last season. Seagulls High
  • Score: 0

12:32pm Fri 15 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Grummitt wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
It was said that Wolves only wanted a nominal six figure sum for Ward, I read one report this morning that suggests the, 'nominal,' figure was 500K, not exactly nominal. If this figure is correct, and then you add the extra 3K which we didn't want to pay, over a three year deal Ward would have cost us 950K over and above the 10K a week we were prepared to pay. Was Ward such a good target at 950K + wages?
Vegas, Left Back is one of the hardest positions to fill. It is the only position where you need a left footed player. You cannot fill in with a right back like we have tried with Calde it does not work. So that said £950k plus wages for a tried and tested top Championship left back IMO would be the going rate. The fact that we finally gave in to those terms shows that we have no back up plan. Let's hope the rumours about Jack Robinson are not just that and that there is an element of substance in it.
point taken about the left side being hard to fill but, if the costs should have been acceptable, given all that you say, why didn't another Champ Div club come for him, don't they, just like us, also have trouble filling that spot? As you correctly say, he is a proven asset at our level, good left side defenders are hard to find, so why only us bidding for him?
Can we say that Wrad is a Prem quality player, I don't think so, so it seems to me that he will be seen as cover, and the fact that he is a left side defender is why Burnley thought him a decent signing considering a low cost, by Prem standards low, deal could be made.

I would suggest that in the Champ Div, a three year deal with a total cost of round 2.5 million, is a lot of money, and even those with parachute payments didn't want to sign him.
[quote][p][bold]Grummitt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: It was said that Wolves only wanted a nominal six figure sum for Ward, I read one report this morning that suggests the, 'nominal,' figure was 500K, not exactly nominal. If this figure is correct, and then you add the extra 3K which we didn't want to pay, over a three year deal Ward would have cost us 950K over and above the 10K a week we were prepared to pay. Was Ward such a good target at 950K + wages?[/p][/quote]Vegas, Left Back is one of the hardest positions to fill. It is the only position where you need a left footed player. You cannot fill in with a right back like we have tried with Calde it does not work. So that said £950k plus wages for a tried and tested top Championship left back IMO would be the going rate. The fact that we finally gave in to those terms shows that we have no back up plan. Let's hope the rumours about Jack Robinson are not just that and that there is an element of substance in it.[/p][/quote]point taken about the left side being hard to fill but, if the costs should have been acceptable, given all that you say, why didn't another Champ Div club come for him, don't they, just like us, also have trouble filling that spot? As you correctly say, he is a proven asset at our level, good left side defenders are hard to find, so why only us bidding for him? Can we say that Wrad is a Prem quality player, I don't think so, so it seems to me that he will be seen as cover, and the fact that he is a left side defender is why Burnley thought him a decent signing considering a low cost, by Prem standards low, deal could be made. I would suggest that in the Champ Div, a three year deal with a total cost of round 2.5 million, is a lot of money, and even those with parachute payments didn't want to sign him. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

2:20pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

Bendtner is still available.
Bendtner is still available. sussexram40
  • Score: -1

2:38pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

BREAKING NEWS.The reason has been solved into why it has taken Brighton so long to get players in. The club today admitted that their carrier pigeon ' Betty' has been unwell over the last 6 weeks, and the clubs hunt for a replacement has been quite difficult. The club has asked for patients and our chairman will have some positive news by the end of August
BREAKING NEWS.The reason has been solved into why it has taken Brighton so long to get players in. The club today admitted that their carrier pigeon ' Betty' has been unwell over the last 6 weeks, and the clubs hunt for a replacement has been quite difficult. The club has asked for patients and our chairman will have some positive news by the end of August Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: 1

2:53pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Maybe it's time we we looked over seas to find a few players. This window has seen us very much focus on players that are in the UK market, and as we all know that has not turned out too well for us. I can't believe that there are not players in the European countries that would do well in the Champ Div, even if they only came on a loan deal.
Forget about Spain, Italy, Germany and the like, what about places such as Sweden, Switzerland and Norway, the slightly less glamorous footballing countries. Do we even have a scouting network that is looking in such places?
Blimey! I are with you Vegas. I've said for years that British players and their agents have an inflated view of what they are worth. Many overseas don't. Well, alright some do but lots don't and they have skills and flair. And we might be able to afford them. Many British players ring their own death knells with high financial expectations. If they really are good enough to play in PL then ok, but if not then they run the risk of pricing themselves out of the game. And I'm still willing to bet that Ward will spend most of this season on the bench and not playing football.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Maybe it's time we we looked over seas to find a few players. This window has seen us very much focus on players that are in the UK market, and as we all know that has not turned out too well for us. I can't believe that there are not players in the European countries that would do well in the Champ Div, even if they only came on a loan deal. Forget about Spain, Italy, Germany and the like, what about places such as Sweden, Switzerland and Norway, the slightly less glamorous footballing countries. Do we even have a scouting network that is looking in such places?[/p][/quote]Blimey! I are with you Vegas. I've said for years that British players and their agents have an inflated view of what they are worth. Many overseas don't. Well, alright some do but lots don't and they have skills and flair. And we might be able to afford them. Many British players ring their own death knells with high financial expectations. If they really are good enough to play in PL then ok, but if not then they run the risk of pricing themselves out of the game. And I'm still willing to bet that Ward will spend most of this season on the bench and not playing football. Max Ripple
  • Score: 0

3:39pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Strange Town says...

I believe Eddie Spearitt might be availble he did quite well a few years ago
I believe Eddie Spearitt might be availble he did quite well a few years ago Strange Town
  • Score: 3

4:10pm Fri 15 Aug 14

pte says...

Phillip Smith wrote:
it serves us right for messing around trying to be clever. we thought we could leave it until the last minute to sign him, so as to save money on his wages over summer. well done bloom barber and burke. very clever. give yourselves a pat on the back.
There was no "we" about it, all down to the 3 numpties. Theres no reason for them to be fuming, they can only blame themselves.

They'll end up paying over the odds for less than average players
[quote][p][bold]Phillip Smith[/bold] wrote: it serves us right for messing around trying to be clever. we thought we could leave it until the last minute to sign him, so as to save money on his wages over summer. well done bloom barber and burke. very clever. give yourselves a pat on the back.[/p][/quote]There was no "we" about it, all down to the 3 numpties. Theres no reason for them to be fuming, they can only blame themselves. They'll end up paying over the odds for less than average players pte
  • Score: 0

7:59pm Fri 15 Aug 14

tinker111 says...

Max Ripple wrote:
The Droveway wrote:
Barnes recomends Ward, Upson - Ulloa, Bridcutt and Poyet get Buckley.

The focus of players is the next league up, £££ etc and they all talk.

Remember we have come from a modest club @ The Goldstone to no ground, Withdean and now the best ground and facilities for miles.

I fear the mixing of suits and dressing room is toxic and until they are separated, success will be just a dream.

The dream came to The Goldstone, good players, big crowds and Alan Mullery. He must be a major influence going forward. Sooner rather thaan later.

Also. Please stop knocking The Chairman. T'is his pocket and his family's enthusiasm over decades which has made this all possible.
I'm not knocking TB. God knows he has invested soooo much of his cash into the club. None of us could have done anything like it. And the academy/training ground is phenomenal. But I think he has lost sight of what Barber and Burke are doing to the club. Burke is obviously a liability. And should go. Now. Barber is like some kind of megalomaniac puppeteer who controls all the business strings. Lets not forget that things started to go downhill with Gus when he arrived.
Barber had got rid of GUS in the past .
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Droveway[/bold] wrote: Barnes recomends Ward, Upson - Ulloa, Bridcutt and Poyet get Buckley. The focus of players is the next league up, £££ etc and they all talk. Remember we have come from a modest club @ The Goldstone to no ground, Withdean and now the best ground and facilities for miles. I fear the mixing of suits and dressing room is toxic and until they are separated, success will be just a dream. The dream came to The Goldstone, good players, big crowds and Alan Mullery. He must be a major influence going forward. Sooner rather thaan later. Also. Please stop knocking The Chairman. T'is his pocket and his family's enthusiasm over decades which has made this all possible.[/p][/quote]I'm not knocking TB. God knows he has invested soooo much of his cash into the club. None of us could have done anything like it. And the academy/training ground is phenomenal. But I think he has lost sight of what Barber and Burke are doing to the club. Burke is obviously a liability. And should go. Now. Barber is like some kind of megalomaniac puppeteer who controls all the business strings. Lets not forget that things started to go downhill with Gus when he arrived.[/p][/quote]Barber had got rid of GUS in the past . tinker111
  • Score: 0

11:24pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Brighton Bill says...

Burke by name Burke by nature he must go now. Ward should have been signed up last season.
Burke by name Burke by nature he must go now. Ward should have been signed up last season. Brighton Bill
  • Score: 0

7:38am Sat 16 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Maybe it's time we we looked over seas to find a few players. This window has seen us very much focus on players that are in the UK market, and as we all know that has not turned out too well for us. I can't believe that there are not players in the European countries that would do well in the Champ Div, even if they only came on a loan deal.
Forget about Spain, Italy, Germany and the like, what about places such as Sweden, Switzerland and Norway, the slightly less glamorous footballing countries. Do we even have a scouting network that is looking in such places?
Didn't we just sack the head of our European scouting 'network' to save money?!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Maybe it's time we we looked over seas to find a few players. This window has seen us very much focus on players that are in the UK market, and as we all know that has not turned out too well for us. I can't believe that there are not players in the European countries that would do well in the Champ Div, even if they only came on a loan deal. Forget about Spain, Italy, Germany and the like, what about places such as Sweden, Switzerland and Norway, the slightly less glamorous footballing countries. Do we even have a scouting network that is looking in such places?[/p][/quote]Didn't we just sack the head of our European scouting 'network' to save money?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

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