Albion say hello to Dutch signing Holla

Danny Holla signs for Seagulls

Danny Holla signs for Seagulls

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Albion have signed Dutch defensive midfielder Danny Holla on a three-year contract.

Holla, 26, watched the Seagulls' 1-0 defeat at Birmingham yesterday before completing a medical and putting pen to paper last night.

He has linked up with the squad at St George's Park, where they are based ahead of Tuesday's visit to Leeds.

Holla began his career at FC Groningen in the youth set-up and spent six years with them as a pro.

He also had loan spells with FC Zwolle and VV-Venlo before moving to Den Haag two years ago but has been without a club since the end of last season after 39 goals in 212 career appearances.

Albion manager Sami Hyypia said: "Danny is a player who has plenty of top-flight experience in Holland with more than 200 senior appearances, and that experience is something we need.

"He is a deep-lying midfielder and the scouting reports I have seen on him show he likes to get on the ball, pass it and dictate the play – and I hope he can bring that to the team.

"He's not been with a club during pre-season, so will we need to assess where is in terms of his match fitness, but hopefully we can get him up to speed and ready to go."

Holla is Albion's sixth signing of the summer, joining fellow defensive midfielder Nzuzi Toko, centre-half Aaron Hughes, goalkeeper David Stockdale, striker Chris O'Grady and attacking midfielder Joao Teixeira, who made his debut as a second half substitute at Birmingham on a season-long loan from Liverpool.

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10:09am Sun 17 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Another free signing without a club, bet he can't play centre forward. Think we need to get our priorities right. No goals so far and an over abundance of midfield players to choose from.
Another free signing without a club, bet he can't play centre forward. Think we need to get our priorities right. No goals so far and an over abundance of midfield players to choose from. Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 67

10:10am Sun 17 Aug 14

Alfie T says...

Decent goal return, think that's enough midfield options, need a cutting edge drastically .
Decent goal return, think that's enough midfield options, need a cutting edge drastically . Alfie T
  • Score: 12

10:11am Sun 17 Aug 14

true fan says...

Ok, but where's the attacking players, still need to score goals to win games
Ok, but where's the attacking players, still need to score goals to win games true fan
  • Score: 28

10:11am Sun 17 Aug 14

Newhavenles says...

Hope this isn't another one that no one else wants,we need players that only need to gell with the other players not to have to get fit as well
Hope this isn't another one that no one else wants,we need players that only need to gell with the other players not to have to get fit as well Newhavenles
  • Score: 29

10:12am Sun 17 Aug 14

oldsolariun says...

Defensive midfielder........
39 goals in 212 career appearances.........
...
Could be our leading goal scorer this season ....................
Defensive midfielder........ 39 goals in 212 career appearances......... ... Could be our leading goal scorer this season .................... oldsolariun
  • Score: 25

10:15am Sun 17 Aug 14

shotseagull says...

we need someone who can stick it in the net.......... not another midfielder
we need someone who can stick it in the net.......... not another midfielder shotseagull
  • Score: 16

10:19am Sun 17 Aug 14

Alfie T says...

Good free kick on NSC, need a player who can deliver a decent cross or free kick.
Good free kick on NSC, need a player who can deliver a decent cross or free kick. Alfie T
  • Score: 6

10:20am Sun 17 Aug 14

Pidgers says...

Good to see another signing, but agree we need flair desperately..
Young Ince is not the answer in the midfield role,, great prospect, but lacks technical ability.. Hope this guy has that aspect with him...
Lets hope we can get at least a couple of attacking players in soon,..
I have read some of the posts over the past few days and agree things look tough for us at the moment..
Lets understand though that Mr Bloom has not got the Mega money that people assume he has and will just lump money into the club with out. Second thought.. It's his money and his club and we have to take all that into consideration,.. Hope in the years to come we free up more funds, because I think its clear that we have each his maximum investment point, and I for one am thankful he has done what he has for the club,.. Lets hope for better months ahead...
Good to see another signing, but agree we need flair desperately.. Young Ince is not the answer in the midfield role,, great prospect, but lacks technical ability.. Hope this guy has that aspect with him... Lets hope we can get at least a couple of attacking players in soon,.. I have read some of the posts over the past few days and agree things look tough for us at the moment.. Lets understand though that Mr Bloom has not got the Mega money that people assume he has and will just lump money into the club with out. Second thought.. It's his money and his club and we have to take all that into consideration,.. Hope in the years to come we free up more funds, because I think its clear that we have each his maximum investment point, and I for one am thankful he has done what he has for the club,.. Lets hope for better months ahead... Pidgers
  • Score: 24

10:21am Sun 17 Aug 14

the taffster says...

We,re all dooooooomed I'm afraid.,.,selling all our quality players and filling the gaps with freebies. Its like getting rid of Burke and barber and replacing them with the next 2 people walking their dogs past the stadium..and expecting them to do their job better!!!! In fact let's do that.it sounds like the answer where the failing suits are concerned...uta
We,re all dooooooomed I'm afraid.,.,selling all our quality players and filling the gaps with freebies. Its like getting rid of Burke and barber and replacing them with the next 2 people walking their dogs past the stadium..and expecting them to do their job better!!!! In fact let's do that.it sounds like the answer where the failing suits are concerned...uta the taffster
  • Score: -8

10:21am Sun 17 Aug 14

Sweetmanattheamex says...

At last the board getting their act together? 2 signings in 2 days! Danny Holla is a good player and will do well for the Albion. Can we now get in our much needed left back and strikers please. UTA
At last the board getting their act together? 2 signings in 2 days! Danny Holla is a good player and will do well for the Albion. Can we now get in our much needed left back and strikers please. UTA Sweetmanattheamex
  • Score: 4

10:23am Sun 17 Aug 14

Alan G Skinner says...

Very good signing, good experience at the top level and free. When Crofts and Stephens are available again we will have decent midfield options. Now we need to spend to bring in a top left back and spend more on a real Striker.
Very good signing, good experience at the top level and free. When Crofts and Stephens are available again we will have decent midfield options. Now we need to spend to bring in a top left back and spend more on a real Striker. Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 8

10:24am Sun 17 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

Superb, slowly but surely we gather the team together. I am Looking forward to supporting all the new players next week at the Amex. Teixeira to start hopefully, to give CMS some service
Superb, slowly but surely we gather the team together. I am Looking forward to supporting all the new players next week at the Amex. Teixeira to start hopefully, to give CMS some service championshipgull
  • Score: 11

10:35am Sun 17 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

Underwhelmed......
Underwhelmed...... AlanDuffy
  • Score: -18

10:37am Sun 17 Aug 14

the taffster says...

Pidgers wrote:
Good to see another signing, but agree we need flair desperately..
Young Ince is not the answer in the midfield role,, great prospect, but lacks technical ability.. Hope this guy has that aspect with him...
Lets hope we can get at least a couple of attacking players in soon,..
I have read some of the posts over the past few days and agree things look tough for us at the moment..
Lets understand though that Mr Bloom has not got the Mega money that people assume he has and will just lump money into the club with out. Second thought.. It's his money and his club and we have to take all that into consideration,.. Hope in the years to come we free up more funds, because I think its clear that we have each his maximum investment point, and I for one am thankful he has done what he has for the club,.. Lets hope for better months ahead...
The fans dictate whether he will have funds for players or not...a lot of fans aren't going to watch the development squad take us down... There lies the problem...the first 4 games you get nil points and lose a third of the crowd.but have a big saving....there was no need for the cull to be so drastic...I'm sure a lot of these players would have stayed if the club made their ambitions known about moving forward,buying maybe only 2 more players and making a push for promotion.like Bournemouth have...keep your assembled group of players together with a couple more additions with a top coach like Eddie howe and who knows what's achievable...you can't train/assemble a squad like we did the last 2 seasons and decimate it within a few weeks and expect results...uta
[quote][p][bold]Pidgers[/bold] wrote: Good to see another signing, but agree we need flair desperately.. Young Ince is not the answer in the midfield role,, great prospect, but lacks technical ability.. Hope this guy has that aspect with him... Lets hope we can get at least a couple of attacking players in soon,.. I have read some of the posts over the past few days and agree things look tough for us at the moment.. Lets understand though that Mr Bloom has not got the Mega money that people assume he has and will just lump money into the club with out. Second thought.. It's his money and his club and we have to take all that into consideration,.. Hope in the years to come we free up more funds, because I think its clear that we have each his maximum investment point, and I for one am thankful he has done what he has for the club,.. Lets hope for better months ahead...[/p][/quote]The fans dictate whether he will have funds for players or not...a lot of fans aren't going to watch the development squad take us down... There lies the problem...the first 4 games you get nil points and lose a third of the crowd.but have a big saving....there was no need for the cull to be so drastic...I'm sure a lot of these players would have stayed if the club made their ambitions known about moving forward,buying maybe only 2 more players and making a push for promotion.like Bournemouth have...keep your assembled group of players together with a couple more additions with a top coach like Eddie howe and who knows what's achievable...you can't train/assemble a squad like we did the last 2 seasons and decimate it within a few weeks and expect results...uta the taffster
  • Score: -6

10:40am Sun 17 Aug 14

bhapilar says...

Another consolidation player ( journeyman ) without a club. He will fit in well when fit. I wonder why he has not had a club since end od last season.
We need proven scorers and midfield flair to compete in this league.
I still cant see us improving on mid table this season.
Another consolidation player ( journeyman ) without a club. He will fit in well when fit. I wonder why he has not had a club since end od last season. We need proven scorers and midfield flair to compete in this league. I still cant see us improving on mid table this season. bhapilar
  • Score: 5

10:41am Sun 17 Aug 14

bill porter says...

Maybe a formation change coming. Toko and Holla anchoring in a 4-2-3-1 formation to cover when the full backs push forward
Maybe a formation change coming. Toko and Holla anchoring in a 4-2-3-1 formation to cover when the full backs push forward bill porter
  • Score: 2

10:42am Sun 17 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth?
Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!!
Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth? Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 15

10:42am Sun 17 Aug 14

Pidgers says...

the taffster wrote:
Pidgers wrote:
Good to see another signing, but agree we need flair desperately..
Young Ince is not the answer in the midfield role,, great prospect, but lacks technical ability.. Hope this guy has that aspect with him...
Lets hope we can get at least a couple of attacking players in soon,..
I have read some of the posts over the past few days and agree things look tough for us at the moment..
Lets understand though that Mr Bloom has not got the Mega money that people assume he has and will just lump money into the club with out. Second thought.. It's his money and his club and we have to take all that into consideration,.. Hope in the years to come we free up more funds, because I think its clear that we have each his maximum investment point, and I for one am thankful he has done what he has for the club,.. Lets hope for better months ahead...
The fans dictate whether he will have funds for players or not...a lot of fans aren't going to watch the development squad take us down... There lies the problem...the first 4 games you get nil points and lose a third of the crowd.but have a big saving....there was no need for the cull to be so drastic...I'm sure a lot of these players would have stayed if the club made their ambitions known about moving forward,buying maybe only 2 more players and making a push for promotion.like Bournemouth have...keep your assembled group of players together with a couple more additions with a top coach like Eddie howe and who knows what's achievable...you can't train/assemble a squad like we did the last 2 seasons and decimate it within a few weeks and expect results...uta
Agreed to an extent, but selling Ulloa and Buckley in my opinion was good business and at Brighton every player has their price,. Ulloa was great dont get me wrong,.. A proven goal,scorer, but even I was surprised we got so much money for a pelt who I think is not prem quality.. Too slow and bad first touch,..,agreed he will score goals, but not sure he will get that many in the prem,.. Buckley too had reached his peak with us and spent maore time injured than on the pitch... My concern as yours I expect is the club sold without replacements sorted... Not great business in that regard for sure...

Think they will solve the issue with an interesting new formation..

3 - 6 - 1

:)
[quote][p][bold]the taffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pidgers[/bold] wrote: Good to see another signing, but agree we need flair desperately.. Young Ince is not the answer in the midfield role,, great prospect, but lacks technical ability.. Hope this guy has that aspect with him... Lets hope we can get at least a couple of attacking players in soon,.. I have read some of the posts over the past few days and agree things look tough for us at the moment.. Lets understand though that Mr Bloom has not got the Mega money that people assume he has and will just lump money into the club with out. Second thought.. It's his money and his club and we have to take all that into consideration,.. Hope in the years to come we free up more funds, because I think its clear that we have each his maximum investment point, and I for one am thankful he has done what he has for the club,.. Lets hope for better months ahead...[/p][/quote]The fans dictate whether he will have funds for players or not...a lot of fans aren't going to watch the development squad take us down... There lies the problem...the first 4 games you get nil points and lose a third of the crowd.but have a big saving....there was no need for the cull to be so drastic...I'm sure a lot of these players would have stayed if the club made their ambitions known about moving forward,buying maybe only 2 more players and making a push for promotion.like Bournemouth have...keep your assembled group of players together with a couple more additions with a top coach like Eddie howe and who knows what's achievable...you can't train/assemble a squad like we did the last 2 seasons and decimate it within a few weeks and expect results...uta[/p][/quote]Agreed to an extent, but selling Ulloa and Buckley in my opinion was good business and at Brighton every player has their price,. Ulloa was great dont get me wrong,.. A proven goal,scorer, but even I was surprised we got so much money for a pelt who I think is not prem quality.. Too slow and bad first touch,..,agreed he will score goals, but not sure he will get that many in the prem,.. Buckley too had reached his peak with us and spent maore time injured than on the pitch... My concern as yours I expect is the club sold without replacements sorted... Not great business in that regard for sure... Think they will solve the issue with an interesting new formation.. 3 - 6 - 1 :) Pidgers
  • Score: 13

10:42am Sun 17 Aug 14

Liambhataylor19 says...

Looks good from what I seen not bad goal scoring record as defensive midfielder. Good luck to him now we jus need st lb and winger then we be ready if we can get them in before Saturday it be good.then we can start looking at getting points on the board and get in the play offs. UP THE ALBION!!.
Looks good from what I seen not bad goal scoring record as defensive midfielder. Good luck to him now we jus need st lb and winger then we be ready if we can get them in before Saturday it be good.then we can start looking at getting points on the board and get in the play offs. UP THE ALBION!!. Liambhataylor19
  • Score: 5

10:46am Sun 17 Aug 14

Quiterie says...

Seems like a decent signing. Decent goal return for a defensive midfielder. He was captain last season too, so sounds like he's got a bit of character.

Slightly concerned he hasn't been snapped up by anyone before now as he's been out of contract.
Seems like a decent signing. Decent goal return for a defensive midfielder. He was captain last season too, so sounds like he's got a bit of character. Slightly concerned he hasn't been snapped up by anyone before now as he's been out of contract. Quiterie
  • Score: 10

10:47am Sun 17 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth?
Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!!
Agustien?
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth? Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!![/p][/quote]Agustien? AlanDuffy
  • Score: 16

10:47am Sun 17 Aug 14

Alan Duffy says...

I'm seriously beginning to think this season is going to be ok, we obviously have a smaller budget than a lot of the other teams in this division, and I think where a lot of problems have arisen is we've tried to sign players who can demand higher wages than we can offer and then lost out on the deals, makes us look incompetent, so that leaves us with two options. 1. Up our offers (suicidal) or 2. Don't go for unrealistic targets. It doesn't matter what other clubs can/cannot afford, Warren Aspinall said yesterday that Billy Sharp went to Leeds for £20,000 a week, that to me was a real eye opener, so I'm showing understanding abd not criticising anymore.
I'm seriously beginning to think this season is going to be ok, we obviously have a smaller budget than a lot of the other teams in this division, and I think where a lot of problems have arisen is we've tried to sign players who can demand higher wages than we can offer and then lost out on the deals, makes us look incompetent, so that leaves us with two options. 1. Up our offers (suicidal) or 2. Don't go for unrealistic targets. It doesn't matter what other clubs can/cannot afford, Warren Aspinall said yesterday that Billy Sharp went to Leeds for £20,000 a week, that to me was a real eye opener, so I'm showing understanding abd not criticising anymore. Alan Duffy
  • Score: 22

10:48am Sun 17 Aug 14

Seagulls via LCFC says...

This guy and Toko and Ince all look to play in a similar position. Where will they all fit? Tex hopefully will be good but need a proven goal scorer now and another option at left back.
This guy and Toko and Ince all look to play in a similar position. Where will they all fit? Tex hopefully will be good but need a proven goal scorer now and another option at left back. Seagulls via LCFC
  • Score: 11

10:48am Sun 17 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Meant to say in the post above "well done to AN" you beat Skysports transfer centre on this maybe there to busy looking at the Premiere league!!
Meant to say in the post above "well done to AN" you beat Skysports transfer centre on this maybe there to busy looking at the Premiere league!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: -1

10:50am Sun 17 Aug 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

Cant imagine idiot Burke sorting this one out, well done Sami bye bye Burke
Cant imagine idiot Burke sorting this one out, well done Sami bye bye Burke Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 3

10:51am Sun 17 Aug 14

namgo49 says...

Unknown quantity gets a three year deal. Why not two with an option? I hope the scouting report is accurate. Will need to get up to speed fitness wise so not effective for at least a month.
Unknown quantity gets a three year deal. Why not two with an option? I hope the scouting report is accurate. Will need to get up to speed fitness wise so not effective for at least a month. namgo49
  • Score: -7

10:52am Sun 17 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Welcome to our club,

We make a signing and there is still people moaning, don't you realize every new player helps the team,
Up the Albion!!
Welcome to our club, We make a signing and there is still people moaning, don't you realize every new player helps the team, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 17

10:53am Sun 17 Aug 14

mickygullhove says...

To days paper says sami has bid 750,000 for Sam Baldock Bristol City
To days paper says sami has bid 750,000 for Sam Baldock Bristol City mickygullhove
  • Score: -2

10:56am Sun 17 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth?
Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!!
Well Agustein got two years!!
This fella looks like he can do a job though Samis comment about needing experience maybe indicates the youngsters may be sidelined slightly? Cant help saying that if Holla hasn't had a club all summer then he can't have been one of our alleged 'target's - still a positive signing!
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth? Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!![/p][/quote]Well Agustein got two years!! This fella looks like he can do a job though Samis comment about needing experience maybe indicates the youngsters may be sidelined slightly? Cant help saying that if Holla hasn't had a club all summer then he can't have been one of our alleged 'target's - still a positive signing! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 9

10:57am Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

WHO? Sorry but this guy is going to make NO difference! and on a 3yr deal! who is dishing out these contracts, because I can kick a ball and wouldn't mind a couple of grand a week for the pleasure, god help us!
Another freeby that no one else wants, not been with a club for a few months should start the alarm bells ringing and also unfit! Another defensive midfielder! so we now have Toko, Ince and Holla for that position. This changes nothing, just filling the squad list so we can be fed the story yet again that players are coming in! No confidence boost for the team or the fans, we need game changers, not average joe's just picking up a wage!
Can't get to the Leeds game, but will try out the stadium beam back and hope for a change in fortunes, be nice to get a point or three and some confidence going into Saturday. UTA, but the board needs to up their game also!
WHO? Sorry but this guy is going to make NO difference! and on a 3yr deal! who is dishing out these contracts, because I can kick a ball and wouldn't mind a couple of grand a week for the pleasure, god help us! Another freeby that no one else wants, not been with a club for a few months should start the alarm bells ringing and also unfit! Another defensive midfielder! so we now have Toko, Ince and Holla for that position. This changes nothing, just filling the squad list so we can be fed the story yet again that players are coming in! No confidence boost for the team or the fans, we need game changers, not average joe's just picking up a wage! Can't get to the Leeds game, but will try out the stadium beam back and hope for a change in fortunes, be nice to get a point or three and some confidence going into Saturday. UTA, but the board needs to up their game also! To baldly go
  • Score: 7

11:01am Sun 17 Aug 14

namgo49 says...

And another thing what is happening with Toko. Three year deal not even come on as sub yet. Naff signing?
And another thing what is happening with Toko. Three year deal not even come on as sub yet. Naff signing? namgo49
  • Score: 12

11:04am Sun 17 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

Our Dutch supporters are going mental on Twitter they think he is exceptional
Dutch Seagulls @Seagulls_NL •
That seriouisly is a great signing. I'm a huge fan of Danny Holla. Quality
Our Dutch supporters are going mental on Twitter they think he is exceptional Dutch Seagulls @Seagulls_NL • That seriouisly is a great signing. I'm a huge fan of Danny Holla. Quality championshipgull
  • Score: 16

11:06am Sun 17 Aug 14

beanyeye says...

mickygullhove wrote:
To days paper says sami has bid 750,000 for Sam Baldock Bristol City
That if accurate might secure the shin pads! Bit light as against the £5M for the player!!!!
[quote][p][bold]mickygullhove[/bold] wrote: To days paper says sami has bid 750,000 for Sam Baldock Bristol City[/p][/quote]That if accurate might secure the shin pads! Bit light as against the £5M for the player!!!! beanyeye
  • Score: 8

11:14am Sun 17 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Again it's a player no one else wants, theres a reason for that. We need players but QUALITY players. So disappointing.
Again it's a player no one else wants, theres a reason for that. We need players but QUALITY players. So disappointing. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -16

11:17am Sun 17 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

mickygullhove wrote:
To days paper says sami has bid 750,000 for Sam Baldock Bristol City
He'll be laughed out of there. It'll take 2 or 3 million, if he even wants to sign that is!
[quote][p][bold]mickygullhove[/bold] wrote: To days paper says sami has bid 750,000 for Sam Baldock Bristol City[/p][/quote]He'll be laughed out of there. It'll take 2 or 3 million, if he even wants to sign that is! Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -10

11:18am Sun 17 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

Alan Duffy wrote:
I'm seriously beginning to think this season is going to be ok, we obviously have a smaller budget than a lot of the other teams in this division, and I think where a lot of problems have arisen is we've tried to sign players who can demand higher wages than we can offer and then lost out on the deals, makes us look incompetent, so that leaves us with two options. 1. Up our offers (suicidal) or 2. Don't go for unrealistic targets. It doesn't matter what other clubs can/cannot afford, Warren Aspinall said yesterday that Billy Sharp went to Leeds for £20,000 a week, that to me was a real eye opener, so I'm showing understanding abd not criticising anymore.
From one Alan to another, I agree. £20k a week for a player in this division is unrealistic - we need to be seeking out lesser known players rather than going for the obvious targets.
[quote][p][bold]Alan Duffy[/bold] wrote: I'm seriously beginning to think this season is going to be ok, we obviously have a smaller budget than a lot of the other teams in this division, and I think where a lot of problems have arisen is we've tried to sign players who can demand higher wages than we can offer and then lost out on the deals, makes us look incompetent, so that leaves us with two options. 1. Up our offers (suicidal) or 2. Don't go for unrealistic targets. It doesn't matter what other clubs can/cannot afford, Warren Aspinall said yesterday that Billy Sharp went to Leeds for £20,000 a week, that to me was a real eye opener, so I'm showing understanding abd not criticising anymore.[/p][/quote]From one Alan to another, I agree. £20k a week for a player in this division is unrealistic - we need to be seeking out lesser known players rather than going for the obvious targets. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 1

11:19am Sun 17 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

namgo49 wrote:
Unknown quantity gets a three year deal. Why not two with an option? I hope the scouting report is accurate. Will need to get up to speed fitness wise so not effective for at least a month.
How would you get an up to date scouting report on a player released at the end of last season?
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: Unknown quantity gets a three year deal. Why not two with an option? I hope the scouting report is accurate. Will need to get up to speed fitness wise so not effective for at least a month.[/p][/quote]How would you get an up to date scouting report on a player released at the end of last season? Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: -2

11:24am Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
Alan Duffy wrote:
I'm seriously beginning to think this season is going to be ok, we obviously have a smaller budget than a lot of the other teams in this division, and I think where a lot of problems have arisen is we've tried to sign players who can demand higher wages than we can offer and then lost out on the deals, makes us look incompetent, so that leaves us with two options. 1. Up our offers (suicidal) or 2. Don't go for unrealistic targets. It doesn't matter what other clubs can/cannot afford, Warren Aspinall said yesterday that Billy Sharp went to Leeds for £20,000 a week, that to me was a real eye opener, so I'm showing understanding abd not criticising anymore.
From one Alan to another, I agree. £20k a week for a player in this division is unrealistic - we need to be seeking out lesser known players rather than going for the obvious targets.
Unless the £20k a week gets you goals, fills the stadium and pushes you to the playoffs or better!
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Duffy[/bold] wrote: I'm seriously beginning to think this season is going to be ok, we obviously have a smaller budget than a lot of the other teams in this division, and I think where a lot of problems have arisen is we've tried to sign players who can demand higher wages than we can offer and then lost out on the deals, makes us look incompetent, so that leaves us with two options. 1. Up our offers (suicidal) or 2. Don't go for unrealistic targets. It doesn't matter what other clubs can/cannot afford, Warren Aspinall said yesterday that Billy Sharp went to Leeds for £20,000 a week, that to me was a real eye opener, so I'm showing understanding abd not criticising anymore.[/p][/quote]From one Alan to another, I agree. £20k a week for a player in this division is unrealistic - we need to be seeking out lesser known players rather than going for the obvious targets.[/p][/quote]Unless the £20k a week gets you goals, fills the stadium and pushes you to the playoffs or better! To baldly go
  • Score: 15

11:26am Sun 17 Aug 14

anglerbaz says...

championshipgull wrote:
Our Dutch supporters are going mental on Twitter they think he is exceptional
Dutch Seagulls @Seagulls_NL •
That seriouisly is a great signing. I'm a huge fan of Danny Holla. Quality
I thought he was without a club ????
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Our Dutch supporters are going mental on Twitter they think he is exceptional Dutch Seagulls @Seagulls_NL • That seriouisly is a great signing. I'm a huge fan of Danny Holla. Quality[/p][/quote]I thought he was without a club ???? anglerbaz
  • Score: -2

11:27am Sun 17 Aug 14

jarmonesque says...

Jeez!! Stop moaning. Two good signings over the weekend. Squads taking shape. New manager, new tactics, new players. Give it a few weeks, sure the wins will come.
Jeez!! Stop moaning. Two good signings over the weekend. Squads taking shape. New manager, new tactics, new players. Give it a few weeks, sure the wins will come. jarmonesque
  • Score: 11

11:27am Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

Apparently fellow countryman Louis van Gaal was after Holla but couldn't match our ambition or wages Lol.
Apparently fellow countryman Louis van Gaal was after Holla but couldn't match our ambition or wages Lol. To baldly go
  • Score: 18

11:32am Sun 17 Aug 14

batray says...

Must be better than JFC - free kicks/corners are a real problem at the moment.
Must be better than JFC - free kicks/corners are a real problem at the moment. batray
  • Score: 21

11:35am Sun 17 Aug 14

London Dave says...

Absolutely ludicrous signing bearing in mind what the team actually needs.

I can only think of Blackpool right now who are in worse shape.
Absolutely ludicrous signing bearing in mind what the team actually needs. I can only think of Blackpool right now who are in worse shape. London Dave
  • Score: -16

11:37am Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

jarmonesque wrote:
Jeez!! Stop moaning. Two good signings over the weekend. Squads taking shape. New manager, new tactics, new players. Give it a few weeks, sure the wins will come.
No one is moaning, just being realistic. At the moment I can't see anything changing, Tex is a good LOAN not a signing and will help yes, but we are just making the numbers up squad wise, nothing more.
Change a few words of your last sentence's around and I'll agree with you!
Give it a few weeks, new manager, new tactics, new players, sure the wins will come! Now it makes sense!
[quote][p][bold]jarmonesque[/bold] wrote: Jeez!! Stop moaning. Two good signings over the weekend. Squads taking shape. New manager, new tactics, new players. Give it a few weeks, sure the wins will come.[/p][/quote]No one is moaning, just being realistic. At the moment I can't see anything changing, Tex is a good LOAN not a signing and will help yes, but we are just making the numbers up squad wise, nothing more. Change a few words of your last sentence's around and I'll agree with you! Give it a few weeks, new manager, new tactics, new players, sure the wins will come! Now it makes sense! To baldly go
  • Score: 8

11:38am Sun 17 Aug 14

stonegold says...

Is this a joke?
Is this a joke? stonegold
  • Score: -13

11:38am Sun 17 Aug 14

rolivan says...

The reality is that the players we had were not good enough to get us into the Premiership as a group so surely it is better to realise their value and start again with basically a new team . Players like Green Bruno and Caldy will be no good to us next year . A big decision has to be made about CMS also. So it needs some patience, true supporters of the Club will have seen so many changes over the years why is it so different now . Gary Neill made a good comment yesterday when he said that a lot of Clubs (I would imagine he meant Premiership Clubs)have failed to secure their transfer Targets and so that will surely have an effect on releasing players that the likes of clubs like us might be wanting.
The reality is that the players we had were not good enough to get us into the Premiership as a group so surely it is better to realise their value and start again with basically a new team . Players like Green Bruno and Caldy will be no good to us next year . A big decision has to be made about CMS also. So it needs some patience, true supporters of the Club will have seen so many changes over the years why is it so different now . Gary Neill made a good comment yesterday when he said that a lot of Clubs (I would imagine he meant Premiership Clubs)have failed to secure their transfer Targets and so that will surely have an effect on releasing players that the likes of clubs like us might be wanting. rolivan
  • Score: 14

11:40am Sun 17 Aug 14

rolivan says...

rolivan wrote:
The reality is that the players we had were not good enough to get us into the Premiership as a group so surely it is better to realise their value and start again with basically a new team . Players like Green Bruno and Caldy will be no good to us next year . A big decision has to be made about CMS also. So it needs some patience, true supporters of the Club will have seen so many changes over the years why is it so different now . Gary Neill made a good comment yesterday when he said that a lot of Clubs (I would imagine he meant Premiership Clubs)have failed to secure their transfer Targets and so that will surely have an effect on releasing players that the likes of clubs like us might be wanting.
Sorry that should be Neville and Greer.
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: The reality is that the players we had were not good enough to get us into the Premiership as a group so surely it is better to realise their value and start again with basically a new team . Players like Green Bruno and Caldy will be no good to us next year . A big decision has to be made about CMS also. So it needs some patience, true supporters of the Club will have seen so many changes over the years why is it so different now . Gary Neill made a good comment yesterday when he said that a lot of Clubs (I would imagine he meant Premiership Clubs)have failed to secure their transfer Targets and so that will surely have an effect on releasing players that the likes of clubs like us might be wanting.[/p][/quote]Sorry that should be Neville and Greer. rolivan
  • Score: 2

11:42am Sun 17 Aug 14

rhett butler says...

Guys, give the Dutch lad a chance and not so negative. He must be better than Ince, toko, agustien,(I'm better than him) jfc and texeira(maybe). We're all holding our breath awaiting good quality champ strikers. They will arrive sooner rather than later, patience please!!!!!
Guys, give the Dutch lad a chance and not so negative. He must be better than Ince, toko, agustien,(I'm better than him) jfc and texeira(maybe). We're all holding our breath awaiting good quality champ strikers. They will arrive sooner rather than later, patience please!!!!! rhett butler
  • Score: 13

11:55am Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans mark by the sea
  • Score: 11

11:57am Sun 17 Aug 14

Towner83 says...

Looks like he could be a good squad player and he's free. Thats why the club can give him a 3yr contract because if the brown stuff hits the fan, I'm sure they could give him a free as long as a club wants him and they don't have to pay up his contract. On the plus side, if he turns out to be different gravy, then the club won't be held to ransom if someone wants to buy him. Welcome to the club Danny!
Looks like he could be a good squad player and he's free. Thats why the club can give him a 3yr contract because if the brown stuff hits the fan, I'm sure they could give him a free as long as a club wants him and they don't have to pay up his contract. On the plus side, if he turns out to be different gravy, then the club won't be held to ransom if someone wants to buy him. Welcome to the club Danny! Towner83
  • Score: 2

12:02pm Sun 17 Aug 14

HtheSeagull says...

First post on here after reading all of the news and comments daily for a long time.

I find myself in a similar situation to many of you posting on here, frustrated and unsure of what is going on. However this signing had got me excited as he looks to be a decent player who is worth an estimated 1.1M. After finding that out I wanted to understand a little more about the player, so looked at some of the Dutch reports leading up to him signing for us and to be honest there is some very mixed opinions. It looks as if he left the club to look for bigger and better things (good right?) however many I have found view him as an overrated player who chases money but at the end of the day its another signing and who knows, he could turn out to be brilliant.

Hope he isn't another Kemy!

UTA
First post on here after reading all of the news and comments daily for a long time. I find myself in a similar situation to many of you posting on here, frustrated and unsure of what is going on. However this signing had got me excited as he looks to be a decent player who is worth an estimated 1.1M. After finding that out I wanted to understand a little more about the player, so looked at some of the Dutch reports leading up to him signing for us and to be honest there is some very mixed opinions. It looks as if he left the club to look for bigger and better things (good right?) however many I have found view him as an overrated player who chases money but at the end of the day its another signing and who knows, he could turn out to be brilliant. Hope he isn't another Kemy! UTA HtheSeagull
  • Score: 12

12:05pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

We seem to be throwing 3-4 year deals around, Dunk gets a 4 year deal,
Cog on a 3 year deal , and now this guy on a three year deal, the only thing I can see is those three sitting on the bench.
All this while we could not offer Barnes a three year deal?
We seem to be throwing 3-4 year deals around, Dunk gets a 4 year deal, Cog on a 3 year deal , and now this guy on a three year deal, the only thing I can see is those three sitting on the bench. All this while we could not offer Barnes a three year deal? mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

12:08pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Lord Hamilton says...

I was not Ashley Barnes's biggest fan but I wish he had played for us on Saturday... and last Saturday as well.
I was not Ashley Barnes's biggest fan but I wish he had played for us on Saturday... and last Saturday as well. Lord Hamilton
  • Score: 17

12:09pm Sun 17 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

anglerbaz wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
Our Dutch supporters are going mental on Twitter they think he is exceptional
Dutch Seagulls @Seagulls_NL •
That seriouisly is a great signing. I'm a huge fan of Danny Holla. Quality
I thought he was without a club ????
So is Kuszczak . What’s your point?
[quote][p][bold]anglerbaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Our Dutch supporters are going mental on Twitter they think he is exceptional Dutch Seagulls @Seagulls_NL • That seriouisly is a great signing. I'm a huge fan of Danny Holla. Quality[/p][/quote]I thought he was without a club ????[/p][/quote]So is Kuszczak . What’s your point? championshipgull
  • Score: 12

12:21pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

So why has not been snapped up by one of our championship rivals, he wasn't known to Sammi by the sound of it must be another of Burke's failure network of Scouts, are we to have a flurry of Dutch players not because they are any good but they cost nothing, we are in trouble, still I hope I am very very wrong time will tell.
So why has not been snapped up by one of our championship rivals, he wasn't known to Sammi by the sound of it must be another of Burke's failure network of Scouts, are we to have a flurry of Dutch players not because they are any good but they cost nothing, we are in trouble, still I hope I am very very wrong time will tell. Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: -1

12:25pm Sun 17 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part,

As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position,
we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part, As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position, we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 7

12:27pm Sun 17 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

Never heard of him, He was without a club and free. Says it all really!
Never heard of him, He was without a club and free. Says it all really! sussexram40
  • Score: -24

12:37pm Sun 17 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Never heard of him, He was without a club and free. Says it all really!
Lets give the lad a chance!! Perhaps you haven't read the full thread and in particular the post where Holland- based Albion fans described him as 'exceptional'?!
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Never heard of him, He was without a club and free. Says it all really![/p][/quote]Lets give the lad a chance!! Perhaps you haven't read the full thread and in particular the post where Holland- based Albion fans described him as 'exceptional'?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 14

12:37pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part,

As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position,
we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!!
Up the Albion!!
MBTS's point is that Cog and Sharp over 2 yrs cost the same, so who do you think is the better deal? Simple really. Not a fan of Sharp myself but he is way better than Cog!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part, As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position, we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]MBTS's point is that Cog and Sharp over 2 yrs cost the same, so who do you think is the better deal? Simple really. Not a fan of Sharp myself but he is way better than Cog! To baldly go
  • Score: 15

12:37pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part,

As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position,
we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!!
Up the Albion!!
Hi jeff, I was making a point about sharp , on the BBC sussex football channel warren aspinal said sharp was on 20k pw ..
Obviously we are short of midfielders, but the Dutch guy is not fit yet,
So two three weeks off I would imagine, crofts is back in 2 games time,
I keep hearing March has asked to leave the club, with his agent pushing him at clubs, saints and west ham interested..?
Back to sharp, if I gambled , I would have him down to score a couple Tuesday.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part, As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position, we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Hi jeff, I was making a point about sharp , on the BBC sussex football channel warren aspinal said sharp was on 20k pw .. Obviously we are short of midfielders, but the Dutch guy is not fit yet, So two three weeks off I would imagine, crofts is back in 2 games time, I keep hearing March has asked to leave the club, with his agent pushing him at clubs, saints and west ham interested..? Back to sharp, if I gambled , I would have him down to score a couple Tuesday. mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

12:37pm Sun 17 Aug 14

The unwilling Frenchman says...

We already have at least Four or Five players in this position, what strikes me as even more alarming is SH hasnt seen him play, (scouting reports ), so whose signing is he ? DB`s department presumably .
Why , as others have asked , have we seen nothing of Toko ?
This signing is just another in the long list of under achievers, KA, JFC,COG , smacks of desperation, lets sign him and hope.
As I said in another thread, soon be time to call for Coppell or Pulis to get us back on track
We already have at least Four or Five players in this position, what strikes me as even more alarming is SH hasnt seen him play, (scouting reports ), so whose signing is he ? DB`s department presumably . Why , as others have asked , have we seen nothing of Toko ? This signing is just another in the long list of under achievers, KA, JFC,COG , smacks of desperation, lets sign him and hope. As I said in another thread, soon be time to call for Coppell or Pulis to get us back on track The unwilling Frenchman
  • Score: -7

12:40pm Sun 17 Aug 14

brightonup says...

Would really enjoy a troll free thread, but I suppose the sheer delight of our current situation will always draw the low life from under their rocks.
When the bad news is over, (and it will be before long) - they will be gone - until the next time.....
Theirs is a contemptible pursuit really, isn't it!
Would really enjoy a troll free thread, but I suppose the sheer delight of our current situation will always draw the low life from under their rocks. When the bad news is over, (and it will be before long) - they will be gone - until the next time..... Theirs is a contemptible pursuit really, isn't it! brightonup
  • Score: 26

12:52pm Sun 17 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

To baldly go wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part,

As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position,
we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!!
Up the Albion!!
MBTS's point is that Cog and Sharp over 2 yrs cost the same, so who do you think is the better deal? Simple really. Not a fan of Sharp myself but he is way better than Cog!
Shall we decide that who is the better over the season not two games, Mark was actually saying that Sharp cost them nothing which isn't true and he's on a million a year which is guess work or hear say, no one knows how much cog earns so to say they cost the same isn't true!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part, As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position, we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]MBTS's point is that Cog and Sharp over 2 yrs cost the same, so who do you think is the better deal? Simple really. Not a fan of Sharp myself but he is way better than Cog![/p][/quote]Shall we decide that who is the better over the season not two games, Mark was actually saying that Sharp cost them nothing which isn't true and he's on a million a year which is guess work or hear say, no one knows how much cog earns so to say they cost the same isn't true!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 5

1:01pm Sun 17 Aug 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Hopefullly this will keep the moaning Minnies quiet for five minutes.
Hopefullly this will keep the moaning Minnies quiet for five minutes. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 0

1:05pm Sun 17 Aug 14

PaulJo says...

This guy is ok, but the current situation reminds me of playing football manager and taking on a club with a (very) limited budget, then having to sign what you can because they're cheap or free just to fill the squad, rather than what you actually want or need!

Anyway, I'll reserve judgement for now until I've seen him in a few games. The positive note for me is that there seems to be movement going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (no one called this one right?). Fingers crossed we will all be much happier come Aug 31st

UTA
This guy is ok, but the current situation reminds me of playing football manager and taking on a club with a (very) limited budget, then having to sign what you can because they're cheap or free just to fill the squad, rather than what you actually want or need! Anyway, I'll reserve judgement for now until I've seen him in a few games. The positive note for me is that there seems to be movement going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (no one called this one right?). Fingers crossed we will all be much happier come Aug 31st UTA PaulJo
  • Score: 6

1:08pm Sun 17 Aug 14

London Dave says...

rolivan wrote:
The reality is that the players we had were not good enough to get us into the Premiership as a group so surely it is better to realise their value and start again with basically a new team . Players like Green Bruno and Caldy will be no good to us next year . A big decision has to be made about CMS also. So it needs some patience, true supporters of the Club will have seen so many changes over the years why is it so different now . Gary Neill made a good comment yesterday when he said that a lot of Clubs (I would imagine he meant Premiership Clubs)have failed to secure their transfer Targets and so that will surely have an effect on releasing players that the likes of clubs like us might be wanting.
Decent wingers make mincemeat of Calderon.

The squad is totally up the creak.

Andrew Crofts, really good player. But we've got serious issues if he actually has a realistic shot of being our leading scorer by the end of the season!
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: The reality is that the players we had were not good enough to get us into the Premiership as a group so surely it is better to realise their value and start again with basically a new team . Players like Green Bruno and Caldy will be no good to us next year . A big decision has to be made about CMS also. So it needs some patience, true supporters of the Club will have seen so many changes over the years why is it so different now . Gary Neill made a good comment yesterday when he said that a lot of Clubs (I would imagine he meant Premiership Clubs)have failed to secure their transfer Targets and so that will surely have an effect on releasing players that the likes of clubs like us might be wanting.[/p][/quote]Decent wingers make mincemeat of Calderon. The squad is totally up the creak. Andrew Crofts, really good player. But we've got serious issues if he actually has a realistic shot of being our leading scorer by the end of the season! London Dave
  • Score: -4

1:10pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

JeffLomer wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part,

As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position,
we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!!
Up the Albion!!
MBTS's point is that Cog and Sharp over 2 yrs cost the same, so who do you think is the better deal? Simple really. Not a fan of Sharp myself but he is way better than Cog!
Shall we decide that who is the better over the season not two games, Mark was actually saying that Sharp cost them nothing which isn't true and he's on a million a year which is guess work or hear say, no one knows how much cog earns so to say they cost the same isn't true!!
Up the Albion!!
Jeff, warren aspinal made the comment on the radio regarding his wages, I was playing devils advocate in terms of costings, you are right about him costing 450k ... Let's have little bet sharp scores double COG does this season, you get what you pay for with strikers,
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]Why do you always go on about how much players are earning all the time, Billy Sharp cost Leeds 450,000 I would off thought you would off known that given you no think he's on a million a year in wages, your way off the mark excuse the punt, unless you get hold off the accounts from our club or any other club you don't no what any body earns, it's just made up guess work on your part, As for having all those midfielders agreed they can't all play at the same time, Crofts is suspended, Stephens out injured and were not sure when he will be fit,so that only leaves Toko and Ince in that position, we made that mistake when Upson got injured then Greer in second leg at Derby and had no like for like replacement, it's up to the players to train hard perform well on the pitch to keep there place in the team, I'm not bothered who plays in the starting eleven as long as they give there all!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]MBTS's point is that Cog and Sharp over 2 yrs cost the same, so who do you think is the better deal? Simple really. Not a fan of Sharp myself but he is way better than Cog![/p][/quote]Shall we decide that who is the better over the season not two games, Mark was actually saying that Sharp cost them nothing which isn't true and he's on a million a year which is guess work or hear say, no one knows how much cog earns so to say they cost the same isn't true!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Jeff, warren aspinal made the comment on the radio regarding his wages, I was playing devils advocate in terms of costings, you are right about him costing 450k ... Let's have little bet sharp scores double COG does this season, you get what you pay for with strikers, mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

1:10pm Sun 17 Aug 14

London Dave says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Hopefullly this will keep the moaning Minnies quiet for five minutes.
I assume your tongue is planted very firmly in your cheek.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Hopefullly this will keep the moaning Minnies quiet for five minutes.[/p][/quote]I assume your tongue is planted very firmly in your cheek. London Dave
  • Score: 6

1:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

London Dave says...

PaulJo wrote:
This guy is ok, but the current situation reminds me of playing football manager and taking on a club with a (very) limited budget, then having to sign what you can because they're cheap or free just to fill the squad, rather than what you actually want or need! Anyway, I'll reserve judgement for now until I've seen him in a few games. The positive note for me is that there seems to be movement going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (no one called this one right?). Fingers crossed we will all be much happier come Aug 31st UTA
Haha, why did nobody call this one I wonder!!
[quote][p][bold]PaulJo[/bold] wrote: This guy is ok, but the current situation reminds me of playing football manager and taking on a club with a (very) limited budget, then having to sign what you can because they're cheap or free just to fill the squad, rather than what you actually want or need! Anyway, I'll reserve judgement for now until I've seen him in a few games. The positive note for me is that there seems to be movement going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (no one called this one right?). Fingers crossed we will all be much happier come Aug 31st UTA[/p][/quote]Haha, why did nobody call this one I wonder!! London Dave
  • Score: 1

1:15pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 7

1:15pm Sun 17 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Holla was with Den Häag for two seasons and club captain last term - refused a new contract offered to him hence not having a club over the close season!
Holla was with Den Häag for two seasons and club captain last term - refused a new contract offered to him hence not having a club over the close season! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 13

1:25pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Don't know the lad so can't comment on his ability, but another defensive midfielder is a curious move.
Also, the fact he's been out of contract for so long begs the question of why we've waited until now to sign him. Can only be he wasn't a first choice or summer 'target'. Seems we're patching up from down the list....
Don't know the lad so can't comment on his ability, but another defensive midfielder is a curious move. Also, the fact he's been out of contract for so long begs the question of why we've waited until now to sign him. Can only be he wasn't a first choice or summer 'target'. Seems we're patching up from down the list.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -2

1:34pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year? mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

1:37pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gardens04 says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth?
Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!!
So if he is that good why hasn't he been snapped up by someone else why spend 12weeks without a club I have a thought for that .so 6 players bought in 1.5mil spent received 10mil you get what you pay for so please wake up and smell the coffee
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth? Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!![/p][/quote]So if he is that good why hasn't he been snapped up by someone else why spend 12weeks without a club I have a thought for that .so 6 players bought in 1.5mil spent received 10mil you get what you pay for so please wake up and smell the coffee gardens04
  • Score: -6

1:40pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

brightonup wrote:
Would really enjoy a troll free thread, but I suppose the sheer delight of our current situation will always draw the low life from under their rocks.
When the bad news is over, (and it will be before long) - they will be gone - until the next time.....
Theirs is a contemptible pursuit really, isn't it!
I don't think the Trolls are going to run out of material any time soon.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: Would really enjoy a troll free thread, but I suppose the sheer delight of our current situation will always draw the low life from under their rocks. When the bad news is over, (and it will be before long) - they will be gone - until the next time..... Theirs is a contemptible pursuit really, isn't it![/p][/quote]I don't think the Trolls are going to run out of material any time soon. gordongull
  • Score: 5

1:44pm Sun 17 Aug 14

heshootshescores says...

Yet another defensive midfield player for a team that can't create chances or score goals?

Yet another free transfer who is probably short of fitness when we need players who can hit the ground running?

Yet another nail in the coffin to our 2014-2015 season. WTF is Bloom playing at allowing this Burke to destroy his/our club?

We need players with PROVEN QUALITY to replace the ones that have just left to join AMBITIOUS clubs willing to spend MONEY.
Yet another defensive midfield player for a team that can't create chances or score goals? Yet another free transfer who is probably short of fitness when we need players who can hit the ground running? Yet another nail in the coffin to our 2014-2015 season. WTF is Bloom playing at allowing this Burke to destroy his/our club? We need players with PROVEN QUALITY to replace the ones that have just left to join AMBITIOUS clubs willing to spend MONEY. heshootshescores
  • Score: -1

1:47pm Sun 17 Aug 14

OldGull says...

you have to laugh,
The same people who moan we are not making signings complain when we do.
I didn't really know anything about Holla.
Den Haag finished 9th in dutch league
Holla scored 14 goal in 54 matches during the last 2 seasons.
A good return for a midfielder.He strikes a good free kick and is a penalty taker
He is 26 , a perfect age regarding experience.

I really do not see the need for negativity on this
UTA
you have to laugh, The same people who moan we are not making signings complain when we do. I didn't really know anything about Holla. Den Haag finished 9th in dutch league Holla scored 14 goal in 54 matches during the last 2 seasons. A good return for a midfielder.He strikes a good free kick and is a penalty taker He is 26 , a perfect age regarding experience. I really do not see the need for negativity on this UTA OldGull
  • Score: 24

1:54pm Sun 17 Aug 14

OldGull says...

I agree that signing a striker is a main priority.
What I don't understand is trolls complaining that our latest signing isn't a striker.

What would you have the club do?
Not sign any other player until we sign the striker 1st.
If a player is available and fits Sam's requirement let's get him.
I agree that signing a striker is a main priority. What I don't understand is trolls complaining that our latest signing isn't a striker. What would you have the club do? Not sign any other player until we sign the striker 1st. If a player is available and fits Sam's requirement let's get him. OldGull
  • Score: 10

1:57pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 8

1:58pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

OldGull wrote:
you have to laugh,
The same people who moan we are not making signings complain when we do.
I didn't really know anything about Holla.
Den Haag finished 9th in dutch league
Holla scored 14 goal in 54 matches during the last 2 seasons.
A good return for a midfielder.He strikes a good free kick and is a penalty taker
He is 26 , a perfect age regarding experience.

I really do not see the need for negativity on this
UTA
If this lad was a primary target, why wait until three games into the season to sign him when he was a free agent? He clearly wasn't top of the list and it's merely another illustration of a tired transfer policy.
He's been sitting on his 'arris all summer, not done a pre-season and we now have to wait for him to play catch up. If he was a top target, he would have been here two months ago.
And as someone else has said, where does that leave Toko, the player signed by the DOF before we appointed a new manager?
All in all, it's a signing that says so much....
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: you have to laugh, The same people who moan we are not making signings complain when we do. I didn't really know anything about Holla. Den Haag finished 9th in dutch league Holla scored 14 goal in 54 matches during the last 2 seasons. A good return for a midfielder.He strikes a good free kick and is a penalty taker He is 26 , a perfect age regarding experience. I really do not see the need for negativity on this UTA[/p][/quote]If this lad was a primary target, why wait until three games into the season to sign him when he was a free agent? He clearly wasn't top of the list and it's merely another illustration of a tired transfer policy. He's been sitting on his 'arris all summer, not done a pre-season and we now have to wait for him to play catch up. If he was a top target, he would have been here two months ago. And as someone else has said, where does that leave Toko, the player signed by the DOF before we appointed a new manager? All in all, it's a signing that says so much.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -6

2:01pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Alfie T says...

OldGull wrote:
I agree that signing a striker is a main priority.
What I don't understand is trolls complaining that our latest signing isn't a striker.

What would you have the club do?
Not sign any other player until we sign the striker 1st.
If a player is available and fits Sam's requirement let's get him.
You said it yourself old gull, trolls are going to pick up on anything the club does, just do what I do and scroll past and read the postings of a select few on this site.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: I agree that signing a striker is a main priority. What I don't understand is trolls complaining that our latest signing isn't a striker. What would you have the club do? Not sign any other player until we sign the striker 1st. If a player is available and fits Sam's requirement let's get him.[/p][/quote]You said it yourself old gull, trolls are going to pick up on anything the club does, just do what I do and scroll past and read the postings of a select few on this site. Alfie T
  • Score: 8

2:02pm Sun 17 Aug 14

rolivan says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Meant to say in the post above "well done to AN" you beat Skysports transfer centre on this maybe there to busy looking at the Premiere league!!
Well he is "Chief Sports Reporter"
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Meant to say in the post above "well done to AN" you beat Skysports transfer centre on this maybe there to busy looking at the Premiere league!![/p][/quote]Well he is "Chief Sports Reporter" rolivan
  • Score: 2

2:04pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
Arnie you just made a very interesting point, no one really knows what FFP will bring to the championship, I think everyone agrees with that?
I find it almost beyond the point of madness we throw players like dunk and toko 4 and three year deals? But they can't actually get a game?
I think if FFP is implemented as they say wages will drop for the squad type players we seem happy to sign up in numbers, but why give a player a guarantee wage for the next four years when they can't even get in the side? We will regret giving long contracts to squad players who won't get a game unless someone has to miss a game!
As for Burke and barber, losing 10% of your customers is hardly great and certainly not help FFP
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]Arnie you just made a very interesting point, no one really knows what FFP will bring to the championship, I think everyone agrees with that? I find it almost beyond the point of madness we throw players like dunk and toko 4 and three year deals? But they can't actually get a game? I think if FFP is implemented as they say wages will drop for the squad type players we seem happy to sign up in numbers, but why give a player a guarantee wage for the next four years when they can't even get in the side? We will regret giving long contracts to squad players who won't get a game unless someone has to miss a game! As for Burke and barber, losing 10% of your customers is hardly great and certainly not help FFP mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

2:06pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gardens04 says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth?
Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!!
We'll can't you work it out been without a club for 12weeks if he was that good there would be a queue of clubs snapping him up and freebie .11mil bought in only spent 1.5 on 6 players and that's to much .MOD last night 6 ex Brighton players in the prem 2were loan players for us woods/Hammond they all played for Gus and they think we can replace them with 1.5mil of crap
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth? Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!![/p][/quote]We'll can't you work it out been without a club for 12weeks if he was that good there would be a queue of clubs snapping him up and freebie .11mil bought in only spent 1.5 on 6 players and that's to much .MOD last night 6 ex Brighton players in the prem 2were loan players for us woods/Hammond they all played for Gus and they think we can replace them with 1.5mil of crap gardens04
  • Score: -12

2:07pm Sun 17 Aug 14

namgo49 says...

batray wrote:
Must be better than JFC - free kicks/corners are a real problem at the moment.
But I bet he doesn't do that strong silent type look JFC does so well when modelling the shirts in the "one club, one ambition" photo shoot.
[quote][p][bold]batray[/bold] wrote: Must be better than JFC - free kicks/corners are a real problem at the moment.[/p][/quote]But I bet he doesn't do that strong silent type look JFC does so well when modelling the shirts in the "one club, one ambition" photo shoot. namgo49
  • Score: 0

2:17pm Sun 17 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
Arnie the problem is this forum is riddled with trolls, some using multiple names, so if you take them out of the equation and look for genuine fans that are posting comments, the picture isn't quite so gloomy.
Tug is a genuine fan and makes his feelings known, and there are several just like him, their comments are worthy of debate, the trolls, well all they want to do is to take a poke at the club and all that it stands for, why bother with them.

MBTS, you state that you are a fan and I presume that you, as a fan, want what is best for the club as a whole, so with that in mind, would you not agree that even if you don't think that the FFP rules and punishments count for much, should the club not do what is required to comply, just in case. Mark, are you looking for Brighton to have a promotion challenging team this season, and of you are, would a top ten finish, (not top six) be a failed season in your opinion?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]Arnie the problem is this forum is riddled with trolls, some using multiple names, so if you take them out of the equation and look for genuine fans that are posting comments, the picture isn't quite so gloomy. Tug is a genuine fan and makes his feelings known, and there are several just like him, their comments are worthy of debate, the trolls, well all they want to do is to take a poke at the club and all that it stands for, why bother with them. MBTS, you state that you are a fan and I presume that you, as a fan, want what is best for the club as a whole, so with that in mind, would you not agree that even if you don't think that the FFP rules and punishments count for much, should the club not do what is required to comply, just in case. Mark, are you looking for Brighton to have a promotion challenging team this season, and of you are, would a top ten finish, (not top six) be a failed season in your opinion? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 8

2:19pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Major Bloodboil says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
OldGull wrote:
you have to laugh,
The same people who moan we are not making signings complain when we do.
I didn't really know anything about Holla.
Den Haag finished 9th in dutch league
Holla scored 14 goal in 54 matches during the last 2 seasons.
A good return for a midfielder.He strikes a good free kick and is a penalty taker
He is 26 , a perfect age regarding experience.

I really do not see the need for negativity on this
UTA
If this lad was a primary target, why wait until three games into the season to sign him when he was a free agent? He clearly wasn't top of the list and it's merely another illustration of a tired transfer policy.
He's been sitting on his 'arris all summer, not done a pre-season and we now have to wait for him to play catch up. If he was a top target, he would have been here two months ago.
And as someone else has said, where does that leave Toko, the player signed by the DOF before we appointed a new manager?
All in all, it's a signing that says so much....
I would guess that we would have preferred to sign Clayton.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: you have to laugh, The same people who moan we are not making signings complain when we do. I didn't really know anything about Holla. Den Haag finished 9th in dutch league Holla scored 14 goal in 54 matches during the last 2 seasons. A good return for a midfielder.He strikes a good free kick and is a penalty taker He is 26 , a perfect age regarding experience. I really do not see the need for negativity on this UTA[/p][/quote]If this lad was a primary target, why wait until three games into the season to sign him when he was a free agent? He clearly wasn't top of the list and it's merely another illustration of a tired transfer policy. He's been sitting on his 'arris all summer, not done a pre-season and we now have to wait for him to play catch up. If he was a top target, he would have been here two months ago. And as someone else has said, where does that leave Toko, the player signed by the DOF before we appointed a new manager? All in all, it's a signing that says so much....[/p][/quote]I would guess that we would have preferred to sign Clayton. Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 3

2:23pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
Arnie you just made a very interesting point, no one really knows what FFP will bring to the championship, I think everyone agrees with that?
I find it almost beyond the point of madness we throw players like dunk and toko 4 and three year deals? But they can't actually get a game?
I think if FFP is implemented as they say wages will drop for the squad type players we seem happy to sign up in numbers, but why give a player a guarantee wage for the next four years when they can't even get in the side? We will regret giving long contracts to squad players who won't get a game unless someone has to miss a game!
As for Burke and barber, losing 10% of your customers is hardly great and certainly not help FFP
But yet you complain when there isn't enough cover in the squad (in the same way you complain when players' contracts are allowed to expire). What DO you want? A threadbare squad so we're not wasting wages on players not playing regularly, or (quality) backup for every position?

Dunk will - well before he is far into his new contract - become a regular centre-back for the club. Greer is nearer the end of his career than the beginning and Hughes even more so. Why else do you think Dunk was given a four-year contract, unless you believe the gibbering and imbecilic rants of Freeloaders about the local mafia/Freemasons lodge (delete as applicable)?

Toko is new to the club (and indeed new to the country), a club in transition. He has also been injured and is being gently brought back into the squad. It is ridiculously early to say the least to start questioning the contract he was given.

(These bits below not aimed specifically at you, Mark.)

Why do we all expect things to happen immediately? Have we really turned into the generation of instant gratification? Back in the old days (I KNOW you remember these) managers would be allowed to be in a job for perhaps 3 unimpressive years before being removed. Now we want them sacked within weeks if we aren't top of the table. A manager needs time to grow into his job, unless he has the rare privilege of tens of millions of pounds to spend, and even doing that will bring its own pressures.

There is also such a sense of entitlement on this website now. The last few weeks have seen dozens and dozens of here-today-gone-tomo
rrow trolls and wums who have, almost without exception, started spouting the same anti-club rhetoric, almost word for word. We are ALL disappointed with the current lack of replacements for Ulloa and Buckley, but do we want quick signings, or the right ones? The transfer windows doesn't shut for a fortnight yet, and judgement should be withheld until then. Ulloa took ages to get in the first place, getting someone suitable will not happen overnight, or even perhaps until the January transfer window.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]Arnie you just made a very interesting point, no one really knows what FFP will bring to the championship, I think everyone agrees with that? I find it almost beyond the point of madness we throw players like dunk and toko 4 and three year deals? But they can't actually get a game? I think if FFP is implemented as they say wages will drop for the squad type players we seem happy to sign up in numbers, but why give a player a guarantee wage for the next four years when they can't even get in the side? We will regret giving long contracts to squad players who won't get a game unless someone has to miss a game! As for Burke and barber, losing 10% of your customers is hardly great and certainly not help FFP[/p][/quote]But yet you complain when there isn't enough cover in the squad (in the same way you complain when players' contracts are allowed to expire). What DO you want? A threadbare squad so we're not wasting wages on players not playing regularly, or (quality) backup for every position? Dunk will - well before he is far into his new contract - become a regular centre-back for the club. Greer is nearer the end of his career than the beginning and Hughes even more so. Why else do you think Dunk was given a four-year contract, unless you believe the gibbering and imbecilic rants of Freeloaders about the local mafia/Freemasons lodge (delete as applicable)? Toko is new to the club (and indeed new to the country), a club in transition. He has also been injured and is being gently brought back into the squad. It is ridiculously early to say the least to start questioning the contract he was given. (These bits below not aimed specifically at you, Mark.) Why do we all expect things to happen immediately? Have we really turned into the generation of instant gratification? Back in the old days (I KNOW you remember these) managers would be allowed to be in a job for perhaps 3 unimpressive years before being removed. Now we want them sacked within weeks if we aren't top of the table. A manager needs time to grow into his job, unless he has the rare privilege of tens of millions of pounds to spend, and even doing that will bring its own pressures. There is also such a sense of entitlement on this website now. The last few weeks have seen dozens and dozens of here-today-gone-tomo rrow trolls and wums who have, almost without exception, started spouting the same anti-club rhetoric, almost word for word. We are ALL disappointed with the current lack of replacements for Ulloa and Buckley, but do we want quick signings, or the right ones? The transfer windows doesn't shut for a fortnight yet, and judgement should be withheld until then. Ulloa took ages to get in the first place, getting someone suitable will not happen overnight, or even perhaps until the January transfer window. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 16

2:24pm Sun 17 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

gardens04 wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth?
Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!!
We'll can't you work it out been without a club for 12weeks if he was that good there would be a queue of clubs snapping him up and freebie .11mil bought in only spent 1.5 on 6 players and that's to much .MOD last night 6 ex Brighton players in the prem 2were loan players for us woods/Hammond they all played for Gus and they think we can replace them with 1.5mil of crap
Ward was 'not wanted,' by Wolves for at least 12 weeks, not even training with the squad, he is now with prem club. Several players have been signed by our competitors that were 'not wanted,' and several of them should have been our targets according to some on here, so what's the big deal about this lad not being with a club when we signed him. TK is without a club, does that make his less good?
[quote][p][bold]gardens04[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth? Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!![/p][/quote]We'll can't you work it out been without a club for 12weeks if he was that good there would be a queue of clubs snapping him up and freebie .11mil bought in only spent 1.5 on 6 players and that's to much .MOD last night 6 ex Brighton players in the prem 2were loan players for us woods/Hammond they all played for Gus and they think we can replace them with 1.5mil of crap[/p][/quote]Ward was 'not wanted,' by Wolves for at least 12 weeks, not even training with the squad, he is now with prem club. Several players have been signed by our competitors that were 'not wanted,' and several of them should have been our targets according to some on here, so what's the big deal about this lad not being with a club when we signed him. TK is without a club, does that make his less good? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 10

2:25pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

batray wrote:
Must be better than JFC - free kicks/corners are a real problem at the moment.
My mother in law is better than JFC, and she's 84yrs
[quote][p][bold]batray[/bold] wrote: Must be better than JFC - free kicks/corners are a real problem at the moment.[/p][/quote]My mother in law is better than JFC, and she's 84yrs Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: -5

2:25pm Sun 17 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
These comments can be largely ignored as they are from a person connected to certain players given 4 year contracts by the club, therefore this person is anxious that the current status quo at the club is maintained.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]These comments can be largely ignored as they are from a person connected to certain players given 4 year contracts by the club, therefore this person is anxious that the current status quo at the club is maintained. ringtone
  • Score: -9

2:31pm Sun 17 Aug 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

So, we don't know much about him, but seriously, could he be any worse than what we have going on in midfield right now.

Personally I'm just happy we are signing midfielders because Caskey and Ince are not the answer, and sticking Bruno in midfield is not the asnwer either.

With the signing of Texi from Liverpool, (front playing creative midfielder), and now Holla, (rear playing dictating midfielder, and Crofts soon to be back, we surely will be better off in midfield. Wondering when we will see our new guy Toko get some game time also ?

It's a start, but a shame its a few weeks too late, and we're giving up easy points in the meantime.
So, we don't know much about him, but seriously, could he be any worse than what we have going on in midfield right now. Personally I'm just happy we are signing midfielders because Caskey and Ince are not the answer, and sticking Bruno in midfield is not the asnwer either. With the signing of Texi from Liverpool, (front playing creative midfielder), and now Holla, (rear playing dictating midfielder, and Crofts soon to be back, we surely will be better off in midfield. Wondering when we will see our new guy Toko get some game time also ? It's a start, but a shame its a few weeks too late, and we're giving up easy points in the meantime. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: 6

2:36pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself.
You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment.
David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities.
Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties.
Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself. You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment. David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities. Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties. Which of the two do you think it is, EPA? gordongull
  • Score: 0

2:48pm Sun 17 Aug 14

arc12 says...

Good luck to Holla - I hope he hits the ground running but must admit I'd never heard of him before. Still need a new striker of proven ability as COG had looked awful in the 3 games I've been to this season with yesterdays being probably the most ineffectual. Personally I'd like 2 strikers and 1 left back but there don't appear to be even any rumours on this front anymore. It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.
Good luck to Holla - I hope he hits the ground running but must admit I'd never heard of him before. Still need a new striker of proven ability as COG had looked awful in the 3 games I've been to this season with yesterdays being probably the most ineffectual. Personally I'd like 2 strikers and 1 left back but there don't appear to be even any rumours on this front anymore. It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks. arc12
  • Score: 8

2:51pm Sun 17 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

arc12 wrote:
Good luck to Holla - I hope he hits the ground running but must admit I'd never heard of him before. Still need a new striker of proven ability as COG had looked awful in the 3 games I've been to this season with yesterdays being probably the most ineffectual. Personally I'd like 2 strikers and 1 left back but there don't appear to be even any rumours on this front anymore. It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.
News Now have an article that suggests that we have offered 750K for Baldock, it also says that the asking price is 1 million, have to think that when the offer and the price is that close a deal can be reached. This deal could come down to wages, assuming that the article has any legs.
[quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: Good luck to Holla - I hope he hits the ground running but must admit I'd never heard of him before. Still need a new striker of proven ability as COG had looked awful in the 3 games I've been to this season with yesterdays being probably the most ineffectual. Personally I'd like 2 strikers and 1 left back but there don't appear to be even any rumours on this front anymore. It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.[/p][/quote]News Now have an article that suggests that we have offered 750K for Baldock, it also says that the asking price is 1 million, have to think that when the offer and the price is that close a deal can be reached. This deal could come down to wages, assuming that the article has any legs. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
arc12 wrote:
Good luck to Holla - I hope he hits the ground running but must admit I'd never heard of him before. Still need a new striker of proven ability as COG had looked awful in the 3 games I've been to this season with yesterdays being probably the most ineffectual. Personally I'd like 2 strikers and 1 left back but there don't appear to be even any rumours on this front anymore. It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.
News Now have an article that suggests that we have offered 750K for Baldock, it also says that the asking price is 1 million, have to think that when the offer and the price is that close a deal can be reached. This deal could come down to wages, assuming that the article has any legs.
Quote from Steve Cotterill on August 5th:
As it stands at this moment in time, he is not for sale. If they (Brighton) want to come back and pay £5 million for him, then that is a different matter.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: Good luck to Holla - I hope he hits the ground running but must admit I'd never heard of him before. Still need a new striker of proven ability as COG had looked awful in the 3 games I've been to this season with yesterdays being probably the most ineffectual. Personally I'd like 2 strikers and 1 left back but there don't appear to be even any rumours on this front anymore. It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.[/p][/quote]News Now have an article that suggests that we have offered 750K for Baldock, it also says that the asking price is 1 million, have to think that when the offer and the price is that close a deal can be reached. This deal could come down to wages, assuming that the article has any legs.[/p][/quote]Quote from Steve Cotterill on August 5th: As it stands at this moment in time, he is not for sale. If they (Brighton) want to come back and pay £5 million for him, then that is a different matter. gordongull
  • Score: 0

2:59pm Sun 17 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
Arnie you just made a very interesting point, no one really knows what FFP will bring to the championship, I think everyone agrees with that?
I find it almost beyond the point of madness we throw players like dunk and toko 4 and three year deals? But they can't actually get a game?
I think if FFP is implemented as they say wages will drop for the squad type players we seem happy to sign up in numbers, but why give a player a guarantee wage for the next four years when they can't even get in the side? We will regret giving long contracts to squad players who won't get a game unless someone has to miss a game!
As for Burke and barber, losing 10% of your customers is hardly great and certainly not help FFP
But yet you complain when there isn't enough cover in the squad (in the same way you complain when players' contracts are allowed to expire). What DO you want? A threadbare squad so we're not wasting wages on players not playing regularly, or (quality) backup for every position?

Dunk will - well before he is far into his new contract - become a regular centre-back for the club. Greer is nearer the end of his career than the beginning and Hughes even more so. Why else do you think Dunk was given a four-year contract, unless you believe the gibbering and imbecilic rants of Freeloaders about the local mafia/Freemasons lodge (delete as applicable)?

Toko is new to the club (and indeed new to the country), a club in transition. He has also been injured and is being gently brought back into the squad. It is ridiculously early to say the least to start questioning the contract he was given.

(These bits below not aimed specifically at you, Mark.)

Why do we all expect things to happen immediately? Have we really turned into the generation of instant gratification? Back in the old days (I KNOW you remember these) managers would be allowed to be in a job for perhaps 3 unimpressive years before being removed. Now we want them sacked within weeks if we aren't top of the table. A manager needs time to grow into his job, unless he has the rare privilege of tens of millions of pounds to spend, and even doing that will bring its own pressures.

There is also such a sense of entitlement on this website now. The last few weeks have seen dozens and dozens of here-today-gone-tomo

rrow trolls and wums who have, almost without exception, started spouting the same anti-club rhetoric, almost word for word. We are ALL disappointed with the current lack of replacements for Ulloa and Buckley, but do we want quick signings, or the right ones? The transfer windows doesn't shut for a fortnight yet, and judgement should be withheld until then. Ulloa took ages to get in the first place, getting someone suitable will not happen overnight, or even perhaps until the January transfer window.
We of course want the right signings, however, I'm sure you will agree that Ward was the 'right' signing and the board dicked about for so long that we lost out - that appears to be symptomatic of the way the club seems to be operating at the moment!!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]Arnie you just made a very interesting point, no one really knows what FFP will bring to the championship, I think everyone agrees with that? I find it almost beyond the point of madness we throw players like dunk and toko 4 and three year deals? But they can't actually get a game? I think if FFP is implemented as they say wages will drop for the squad type players we seem happy to sign up in numbers, but why give a player a guarantee wage for the next four years when they can't even get in the side? We will regret giving long contracts to squad players who won't get a game unless someone has to miss a game! As for Burke and barber, losing 10% of your customers is hardly great and certainly not help FFP[/p][/quote]But yet you complain when there isn't enough cover in the squad (in the same way you complain when players' contracts are allowed to expire). What DO you want? A threadbare squad so we're not wasting wages on players not playing regularly, or (quality) backup for every position? Dunk will - well before he is far into his new contract - become a regular centre-back for the club. Greer is nearer the end of his career than the beginning and Hughes even more so. Why else do you think Dunk was given a four-year contract, unless you believe the gibbering and imbecilic rants of Freeloaders about the local mafia/Freemasons lodge (delete as applicable)? Toko is new to the club (and indeed new to the country), a club in transition. He has also been injured and is being gently brought back into the squad. It is ridiculously early to say the least to start questioning the contract he was given. (These bits below not aimed specifically at you, Mark.) Why do we all expect things to happen immediately? Have we really turned into the generation of instant gratification? Back in the old days (I KNOW you remember these) managers would be allowed to be in a job for perhaps 3 unimpressive years before being removed. Now we want them sacked within weeks if we aren't top of the table. A manager needs time to grow into his job, unless he has the rare privilege of tens of millions of pounds to spend, and even doing that will bring its own pressures. There is also such a sense of entitlement on this website now. The last few weeks have seen dozens and dozens of here-today-gone-tomo rrow trolls and wums who have, almost without exception, started spouting the same anti-club rhetoric, almost word for word. We are ALL disappointed with the current lack of replacements for Ulloa and Buckley, but do we want quick signings, or the right ones? The transfer windows doesn't shut for a fortnight yet, and judgement should be withheld until then. Ulloa took ages to get in the first place, getting someone suitable will not happen overnight, or even perhaps until the January transfer window.[/p][/quote]We of course want the right signings, however, I'm sure you will agree that Ward was the 'right' signing and the board dicked about for so long that we lost out - that appears to be symptomatic of the way the club seems to be operating at the moment!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 6

3:00pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself.
You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment.
David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities.
Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties.
Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?
There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded.

If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening.

And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself. You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment. David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities. Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties. Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?[/p][/quote]There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded. If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening. And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

3:01pm Sun 17 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
arc12 wrote:
Good luck to Holla - I hope he hits the ground running but must admit I'd never heard of him before. Still need a new striker of proven ability as COG had looked awful in the 3 games I've been to this season with yesterdays being probably the most ineffectual. Personally I'd like 2 strikers and 1 left back but there don't appear to be even any rumours on this front anymore. It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.
News Now have an article that suggests that we have offered 750K for Baldock, it also says that the asking price is 1 million, have to think that when the offer and the price is that close a deal can be reached. This deal could come down to wages, assuming that the article has any legs.
Quote from Steve Cotterill on August 5th:
As it stands at this moment in time, he is not for sale. If they (Brighton) want to come back and pay £5 million for him, then that is a different matter.
yep I recall that statement, that's why I added the line, 'assuming that the article has any legs.'
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: Good luck to Holla - I hope he hits the ground running but must admit I'd never heard of him before. Still need a new striker of proven ability as COG had looked awful in the 3 games I've been to this season with yesterdays being probably the most ineffectual. Personally I'd like 2 strikers and 1 left back but there don't appear to be even any rumours on this front anymore. It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.[/p][/quote]News Now have an article that suggests that we have offered 750K for Baldock, it also says that the asking price is 1 million, have to think that when the offer and the price is that close a deal can be reached. This deal could come down to wages, assuming that the article has any legs.[/p][/quote]Quote from Steve Cotterill on August 5th: As it stands at this moment in time, he is not for sale. If they (Brighton) want to come back and pay £5 million for him, then that is a different matter.[/p][/quote]yep I recall that statement, that's why I added the line, 'assuming that the article has any legs.' VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

3:13pm Sun 17 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself.
You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment.
David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities.
Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties.
Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?
There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded.

If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening.

And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.
Please confirm or deny you have any connections with the club?

Apart from being a fan not a supporter, Vegas knows the difference.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself. You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment. David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities. Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties. Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?[/p][/quote]There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded. If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening. And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.[/p][/quote]Please confirm or deny you have any connections with the club? Apart from being a fan not a supporter, Vegas knows the difference. ringtone
  • Score: -2

3:20pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself.
You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment.
David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities.
Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties.
Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?
There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded.

If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening.

And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.
We judge the squad after 46 games, and how many points are achieved during those games, so I honestly think the last two games were 6 points dropped , we may end up 7-8 th in the league and at that point some will remember Tony Bloom promise of "sami will have the players for the start of the season "
The signing of this Dutch guy means we have 5-6 holding midfielders , what I want is a signing or a player that everyone will say he will be first choice ahead of x or y ... We should be discussing the formation.
Also Arnie you mention FFP as though it's a certainty of life ,
If we leak more fans , that is the biggest impact on our ability to make the premier league,
I would imagine a few sponsors will get itchy feet if things don't pick up,
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself. You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment. David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities. Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties. Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?[/p][/quote]There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded. If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening. And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.[/p][/quote]We judge the squad after 46 games, and how many points are achieved during those games, so I honestly think the last two games were 6 points dropped , we may end up 7-8 th in the league and at that point some will remember Tony Bloom promise of "sami will have the players for the start of the season " The signing of this Dutch guy means we have 5-6 holding midfielders , what I want is a signing or a player that everyone will say he will be first choice ahead of x or y ... We should be discussing the formation. Also Arnie you mention FFP as though it's a certainty of life , If we leak more fans , that is the biggest impact on our ability to make the premier league, I would imagine a few sponsors will get itchy feet if things don't pick up, mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Sun 17 Aug 14

daveyboy35 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself.
You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment.
David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities.
Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties.
Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?
There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded.

If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening.

And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.
are you tony bloom????
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself. You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment. David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities. Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties. Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?[/p][/quote]There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded. If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening. And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.[/p][/quote]are you tony bloom???? daveyboy35
  • Score: -2

3:28pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gardens04 says...

Getting bored of all these average players . He's been without a club for 12 weeks that tells you all you need to know
Getting bored of all these average players . He's been without a club for 12 weeks that tells you all you need to know gardens04
  • Score: -12

3:29pm Sun 17 Aug 14

bbb1969 says...

Maybe we will play 3 at the back and use 2 cdms so we will have a 3-2-3-2 formation or a 3-5-2 with 2 cdms and 1 cam and 2 wingers (maybe wingbacks). Have to change the formation to suit the players and not change the players to suit the formation.
Maybe we will play 3 at the back and use 2 cdms so we will have a 3-2-3-2 formation or a 3-5-2 with 2 cdms and 1 cam and 2 wingers (maybe wingbacks). Have to change the formation to suit the players and not change the players to suit the formation. bbb1969
  • Score: -2

3:33pm Sun 17 Aug 14

The lev says...

is he a good signing ? maybe, maybe not , i would apply the test of anyone sitting around without a club at his age is not that good .

where is burke hanging out ? down the dole office looking for men carrying football boots.
is he a good signing ? maybe, maybe not , i would apply the test of anyone sitting around without a club at his age is not that good . where is burke hanging out ? down the dole office looking for men carrying football boots. The lev
  • Score: -3

3:35pm Sun 17 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
Arnie you just made a very interesting point, no one really knows what FFP will bring to the championship, I think everyone agrees with that?
I find it almost beyond the point of madness we throw players like dunk and toko 4 and three year deals? But they can't actually get a game?
I think if FFP is implemented as they say wages will drop for the squad type players we seem happy to sign up in numbers, but why give a player a guarantee wage for the next four years when they can't even get in the side? We will regret giving long contracts to squad players who won't get a game unless someone has to miss a game!
As for Burke and barber, losing 10% of your customers is hardly great and certainly not help FFP
But yet you complain when there isn't enough cover in the squad (in the same way you complain when players' contracts are allowed to expire). What DO you want? A threadbare squad so we're not wasting wages on players not playing regularly, or (quality) backup for every position?

Dunk will - well before he is far into his new contract - become a regular centre-back for the club. Greer is nearer the end of his career than the beginning and Hughes even more so. Why else do you think Dunk was given a four-year contract, unless you believe the gibbering and imbecilic rants of Freeloaders about the local mafia/Freemasons lodge (delete as applicable)?

Toko is new to the club (and indeed new to the country), a club in transition. He has also been injured and is being gently brought back into the squad. It is ridiculously early to say the least to start questioning the contract he was given.

(These bits below not aimed specifically at you, Mark.)

Why do we all expect things to happen immediately? Have we really turned into the generation of instant gratification? Back in the old days (I KNOW you remember these) managers would be allowed to be in a job for perhaps 3 unimpressive years before being removed. Now we want them sacked within weeks if we aren't top of the table. A manager needs time to grow into his job, unless he has the rare privilege of tens of millions of pounds to spend, and even doing that will bring its own pressures.

There is also such a sense of entitlement on this website now. The last few weeks have seen dozens and dozens of here-today-gone-tomo

rrow trolls and wums who have, almost without exception, started spouting the same anti-club rhetoric, almost word for word. We are ALL disappointed with the current lack of replacements for Ulloa and Buckley, but do we want quick signings, or the right ones? The transfer windows doesn't shut for a fortnight yet, and judgement should be withheld until then. Ulloa took ages to get in the first place, getting someone suitable will not happen overnight, or even perhaps until the January transfer window.
Yes we haven't had Tony Pulis making cracks recently, you arrogant little man.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]Arnie you just made a very interesting point, no one really knows what FFP will bring to the championship, I think everyone agrees with that? I find it almost beyond the point of madness we throw players like dunk and toko 4 and three year deals? But they can't actually get a game? I think if FFP is implemented as they say wages will drop for the squad type players we seem happy to sign up in numbers, but why give a player a guarantee wage for the next four years when they can't even get in the side? We will regret giving long contracts to squad players who won't get a game unless someone has to miss a game! As for Burke and barber, losing 10% of your customers is hardly great and certainly not help FFP[/p][/quote]But yet you complain when there isn't enough cover in the squad (in the same way you complain when players' contracts are allowed to expire). What DO you want? A threadbare squad so we're not wasting wages on players not playing regularly, or (quality) backup for every position? Dunk will - well before he is far into his new contract - become a regular centre-back for the club. Greer is nearer the end of his career than the beginning and Hughes even more so. Why else do you think Dunk was given a four-year contract, unless you believe the gibbering and imbecilic rants of Freeloaders about the local mafia/Freemasons lodge (delete as applicable)? Toko is new to the club (and indeed new to the country), a club in transition. He has also been injured and is being gently brought back into the squad. It is ridiculously early to say the least to start questioning the contract he was given. (These bits below not aimed specifically at you, Mark.) Why do we all expect things to happen immediately? Have we really turned into the generation of instant gratification? Back in the old days (I KNOW you remember these) managers would be allowed to be in a job for perhaps 3 unimpressive years before being removed. Now we want them sacked within weeks if we aren't top of the table. A manager needs time to grow into his job, unless he has the rare privilege of tens of millions of pounds to spend, and even doing that will bring its own pressures. There is also such a sense of entitlement on this website now. The last few weeks have seen dozens and dozens of here-today-gone-tomo rrow trolls and wums who have, almost without exception, started spouting the same anti-club rhetoric, almost word for word. We are ALL disappointed with the current lack of replacements for Ulloa and Buckley, but do we want quick signings, or the right ones? The transfer windows doesn't shut for a fortnight yet, and judgement should be withheld until then. Ulloa took ages to get in the first place, getting someone suitable will not happen overnight, or even perhaps until the January transfer window.[/p][/quote]Yes we haven't had Tony Pulis making cracks recently, you arrogant little man. ringtone
  • Score: -9

3:35pm Sun 17 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
Arnie the problem is this forum is riddled with trolls, some using multiple names, so if you take them out of the equation and look for genuine fans that are posting comments, the picture isn't quite so gloomy.
Tug is a genuine fan and makes his feelings known, and there are several just like him, their comments are worthy of debate, the trolls, well all they want to do is to take a poke at the club and all that it stands for, why bother with them.

MBTS, you state that you are a fan and I presume that you, as a fan, want what is best for the club as a whole, so with that in mind, would you not agree that even if you don't think that the FFP rules and punishments count for much, should the club not do what is required to comply, just in case. Mark, are you looking for Brighton to have a promotion challenging team this season, and of you are, would a top ten finish, (not top six) be a failed season in your opinion?
Hi Vegas how do you no Tug is a genuine fan you don't nobody that's on this forum apart from your brother, I agree Tugs passionate on here and no one hates Burke more than him because he will tell us on every other thread, someone can sit on there computer all day if you want or got the time but that don't make anybody a genuine fan lmo!!
Up the Albion!!
Ps ask your genuine fan if he went to Birmingham and off to Leeds midweek don't choke on the answer!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]Arnie the problem is this forum is riddled with trolls, some using multiple names, so if you take them out of the equation and look for genuine fans that are posting comments, the picture isn't quite so gloomy. Tug is a genuine fan and makes his feelings known, and there are several just like him, their comments are worthy of debate, the trolls, well all they want to do is to take a poke at the club and all that it stands for, why bother with them. MBTS, you state that you are a fan and I presume that you, as a fan, want what is best for the club as a whole, so with that in mind, would you not agree that even if you don't think that the FFP rules and punishments count for much, should the club not do what is required to comply, just in case. Mark, are you looking for Brighton to have a promotion challenging team this season, and of you are, would a top ten finish, (not top six) be a failed season in your opinion?[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas how do you no Tug is a genuine fan you don't nobody that's on this forum apart from your brother, I agree Tugs passionate on here and no one hates Burke more than him because he will tell us on every other thread, someone can sit on there computer all day if you want or got the time but that don't make anybody a genuine fan lmo!! Up the Albion!! Ps ask your genuine fan if he went to Birmingham and off to Leeds midweek don't choke on the answer!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

3:35pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself.
You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment.
David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities.
Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties.
Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?
There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded.

If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening.

And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.
I have never liked bull**** and spin, and my only agenda is to try to cut through some of it in an attempt to uncover what is really going on.

Here is the link to Mr Bloom's assurances that Sami would have the players BEFORE the start of the season, to give him a chance of promotion.

http://www.theargus.
co.uk/sport/11275408
.No_pressure_but_Blo
om_believes_Hyypia_w
ill_have_another_com
petitive_squad_to_ta
rget_top_six/
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself. You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment. David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities. Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties. Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?[/p][/quote]There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded. If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening. And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.[/p][/quote]I have never liked bull**** and spin, and my only agenda is to try to cut through some of it in an attempt to uncover what is really going on. Here is the link to Mr Bloom's assurances that Sami would have the players BEFORE the start of the season, to give him a chance of promotion. http://www.theargus. co.uk/sport/11275408 .No_pressure_but_Blo om_believes_Hyypia_w ill_have_another_com petitive_squad_to_ta rget_top_six/ gordongull
  • Score: 0

3:37pm Sun 17 Aug 14

BHARYE says...

I need a Holla, Holla, Holla is what I need....
I need a Holla, Holla, Holla is what I need.... BHARYE
  • Score: 3

3:43pm Sun 17 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

3:47pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

London Dave wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Hopefullly this will keep the moaning Minnies quiet for five minutes.
I assume your tongue is planted very firmly in your cheek.
Doubt it. He'd have to extract it from T.B.'s bottom first. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]London Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Hopefullly this will keep the moaning Minnies quiet for five minutes.[/p][/quote]I assume your tongue is planted very firmly in your cheek.[/p][/quote]Doubt it. He'd have to extract it from T.B.'s bottom first. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 5

3:51pm Sun 17 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gardens04 wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth?
Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!!
We'll can't you work it out been without a club for 12weeks if he was that good there would be a queue of clubs snapping him up and freebie .11mil bought in only spent 1.5 on 6 players and that's to much .MOD last night 6 ex Brighton players in the prem 2were loan players for us woods/Hammond they all played for Gus and they think we can replace them with 1.5mil of crap
Ward was 'not wanted,' by Wolves for at least 12 weeks, not even training with the squad, he is now with prem club. Several players have been signed by our competitors that were 'not wanted,' and several of them should have been our targets according to some on here, so what's the big deal about this lad not being with a club when we signed him. TK is without a club, does that make his less good?
Ward was training with the squad,even got a(put in the offer window)run in a friendly.

Holla's contract option was not takenup by his club(unlike vincente lol).
He was a free agent.

About TK club coaches,are worried about their wives,as they are always on the road scouting,looking at players meetings with the chairman etc.

Liverpool did not want suarez anymore.

Posters seem to be happy now players are are being signed,i'm waiting for the one armed one legged wonder to come along then i will be a happy bunny.

As i have said many many times the clock is ticking.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gardens04[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth? Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!![/p][/quote]We'll can't you work it out been without a club for 12weeks if he was that good there would be a queue of clubs snapping him up and freebie .11mil bought in only spent 1.5 on 6 players and that's to much .MOD last night 6 ex Brighton players in the prem 2were loan players for us woods/Hammond they all played for Gus and they think we can replace them with 1.5mil of crap[/p][/quote]Ward was 'not wanted,' by Wolves for at least 12 weeks, not even training with the squad, he is now with prem club. Several players have been signed by our competitors that were 'not wanted,' and several of them should have been our targets according to some on here, so what's the big deal about this lad not being with a club when we signed him. TK is without a club, does that make his less good?[/p][/quote]Ward was training with the squad,even got a(put in the offer window)run in a friendly. Holla's contract option was not takenup by his club(unlike vincente lol). He was a free agent. About TK club coaches,are worried about their wives,as they are always on the road scouting,looking at players meetings with the chairman etc. Liverpool did not want suarez anymore. Posters seem to be happy now players are are being signed,i'm waiting for the one armed one legged wonder to come along then i will be a happy bunny. As i have said many many times the clock is ticking. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -3

3:53pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Do you do condescending full time or part time?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Do you do condescending full time or part time? mark by the sea
  • Score: 5

3:55pm Sun 17 Aug 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

namgo49 wrote:
And another thing what is happening with Toko. Three year deal not even come on as sub yet. Naff signing?
That's what happens when someone other than the man who picks the team chooses signings! That's why it will never work - unless Burke starts picking the team too!
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: And another thing what is happening with Toko. Three year deal not even come on as sub yet. Naff signing?[/p][/quote]That's what happens when someone other than the man who picks the team chooses signings! That's why it will never work - unless Burke starts picking the team too! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 1

4:01pm Sun 17 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
The rumoured fee for Sharp was £450,000. Hope that helps Mark.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]The rumoured fee for Sharp was £450,000. Hope that helps Mark. ballantrrae
  • Score: 3

4:03pm Sun 17 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Do you do condescending full time or part time?
This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Do you do condescending full time or part time?[/p][/quote]This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

4:06pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

ballantrrae wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
The rumoured fee for Sharp was £450,000. Hope that helps Mark.
Cheap in my opinion, he will score goals . And with the Leeds fans chanting his name, he looked a very very happy player,
Come Tuesday at Leeds someone needs to get hold of sharp , I would imagine him down the right Chanel attacking chickson in the air.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]The rumoured fee for Sharp was £450,000. Hope that helps Mark.[/p][/quote]Cheap in my opinion, he will score goals . And with the Leeds fans chanting his name, he looked a very very happy player, Come Tuesday at Leeds someone needs to get hold of sharp , I would imagine him down the right Chanel attacking chickson in the air. mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

4:07pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you. gordongull
  • Score: -3

4:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

Claude Back wrote:
London Dave wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Hopefullly this will keep the moaning Minnies quiet for five minutes.
I assume your tongue is planted very firmly in your cheek.
Doubt it. He'd have to extract it from T.B.'s bottom first. ;-)
Haha
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Hopefullly this will keep the moaning Minnies quiet for five minutes.[/p][/quote]I assume your tongue is planted very firmly in your cheek.[/p][/quote]Doubt it. He'd have to extract it from T.B.'s bottom first. ;-)[/p][/quote]Haha gordongull
  • Score: 1

4:23pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Do you do condescending full time or part time?
This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.
What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February .
The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons ..
Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex?
Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not?
I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Do you do condescending full time or part time?[/p][/quote]This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.[/p][/quote]What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February . The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons .. Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex? Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not? I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan. mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

4:27pm Sun 17 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Do you do condescending full time or part time?
This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.
What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February .
The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons ..
Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex?
Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not?
I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.
you are sounding more like freeloader every time you tell us of all your contacts. Yes and yes regarding watching Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Do you do condescending full time or part time?[/p][/quote]This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.[/p][/quote]What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February . The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons .. Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex? Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not? I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.[/p][/quote]you are sounding more like freeloader every time you tell us of all your contacts. Yes and yes regarding watching Brighton. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

4:38pm Sun 17 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

4:42pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

For those interested--I mentioned I had e-mailed BHA with my views. I am pleased to say I have had a personal reply from Paul Barber. Obviously for confidentiality reasons I cannot repeat any of the reply. But if other wish to e-mail him do so via the Club Supporters e-mail address. All I will say is that the reply was long and detailed, NOT just a cursory reply.!!
For those interested--I mentioned I had e-mailed BHA with my views. I am pleased to say I have had a personal reply from Paul Barber. Obviously for confidentiality reasons I cannot repeat any of the reply. But if other wish to e-mail him do so via the Club Supporters e-mail address. All I will say is that the reply was long and detailed, NOT just a cursory reply.!! mikeygit
  • Score: 5

4:50pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself.
You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment.
David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities.
Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties.
Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?
There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded.

If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening.

And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.
We judge the squad after 46 games, and how many points are achieved during those games, so I honestly think the last two games were 6 points dropped , we may end up 7-8 th in the league and at that point some will remember Tony Bloom promise of "sami will have the players for the start of the season "
The signing of this Dutch guy means we have 5-6 holding midfielders , what I want is a signing or a player that everyone will say he will be first choice ahead of x or y ... We should be discussing the formation.
Also Arnie you mention FFP as though it's a certainty of life ,
If we leak more fans , that is the biggest impact on our ability to make the premier league,
I would imagine a few sponsors will get itchy feet if things don't pick up,
We have this new guy, Toko and Ince as genuine holding midfielders. I don't think JFC, Crofts or Stephens would necessarily describe themselves as such, although the last two could adapt.

And, for the time being, FFP IS a certainty. All clubs have signed up to it with their eyes open. The rules were drawn up in full consultation with the European Commission, so the framework is entirely compatible with and supported by EU legislation on trade and employment law. It's possible that some will choose to challenge it, but it is far from certain that they will have any success doing so.

Last season didn't we lose our first three games, including the League Cup? Were we all so depressed back then? We probably had a stronger squad, so technically was that not a worse start? If as you say we should judge the squad at the end of the season, why has there been so much wailing and gnashing of teeth in the last few weeks? Far, FAR too early to draw any meaningful conclusions, unless you are desperate to depress yourself and others. Go ahead, but nah, it's not for me.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself. You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment. David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities. Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties. Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?[/p][/quote]There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded. If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening. And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.[/p][/quote]We judge the squad after 46 games, and how many points are achieved during those games, so I honestly think the last two games were 6 points dropped , we may end up 7-8 th in the league and at that point some will remember Tony Bloom promise of "sami will have the players for the start of the season " The signing of this Dutch guy means we have 5-6 holding midfielders , what I want is a signing or a player that everyone will say he will be first choice ahead of x or y ... We should be discussing the formation. Also Arnie you mention FFP as though it's a certainty of life , If we leak more fans , that is the biggest impact on our ability to make the premier league, I would imagine a few sponsors will get itchy feet if things don't pick up,[/p][/quote]We have this new guy, Toko and Ince as genuine holding midfielders. I don't think JFC, Crofts or Stephens would necessarily describe themselves as such, although the last two could adapt. And, for the time being, FFP IS a certainty. All clubs have signed up to it with their eyes open. The rules were drawn up in full consultation with the European Commission, so the framework is entirely compatible with and supported by EU legislation on trade and employment law. It's possible that some will choose to challenge it, but it is far from certain that they will have any success doing so. Last season didn't we lose our first three games, including the League Cup? Were we all so depressed back then? We probably had a stronger squad, so technically was that not a worse start? If as you say we should judge the squad at the end of the season, why has there been so much wailing and gnashing of teeth in the last few weeks? Far, FAR too early to draw any meaningful conclusions, unless you are desperate to depress yourself and others. Go ahead, but nah, it's not for me. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

4:54pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

Looked all over the web, doesn't seem to stay long with anyone lol ohhh dear
Looked all over the web, doesn't seem to stay long with anyone lol ohhh dear Cliify0002
  • Score: -9

4:55pm Sun 17 Aug 14

paul6391 says...

Hmmmm i Have some sh*t around my roses....would Burke like to sign that up aswell.........good grief
Hmmmm i Have some sh*t around my roses....would Burke like to sign that up aswell.........good grief paul6391
  • Score: -3

4:56pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position?
I would imagine toko is way off the quality required?
With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages...
We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans
I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?
Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations,
I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds,
You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?
Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in.

Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year.

There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature.

PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?
The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said:
'' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”
It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself.
You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment.
David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities.
Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties.
Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?
There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded.

If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening.

And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.
I have never liked bull**** and spin, and my only agenda is to try to cut through some of it in an attempt to uncover what is really going on.

Here is the link to Mr Bloom's assurances that Sami would have the players BEFORE the start of the season, to give him a chance of promotion.

http://www.theargus.

co.uk/sport/11275408

.No_pressure_but_Blo

om_believes_Hyypia_w

ill_have_another_com

petitive_squad_to_ta

rget_top_six/
All that confirms, surely, is that Bloom believed Sami would indeed have a decent squad. It says nothing new whatsoever. I have no doubt Bloom did believe that Sami would have that squad before the season.

PS: There is a difference between assurances and "I am confident", no? There was no guarantee, just (slightly misplaced) confidence. The window has not closed... the time to worry is then (if applicable), not now.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: I can't comment about him as a player, however we have , toko , Stephens , crofts and ince who can all play in that position? I would imagine toko is way off the quality required? With regards to Billy Sharp, 1m a year wages? Is that not a good deal if no fee was involved? Say he joins for two years, that means he cost 2m including wages... We sign COG , for £500k say his wages are 8k a week = 800k so 1.3 million .. I know who will score 15- 20 goals this season and entertain the fans[/p][/quote]I thought you said there was always a massive "golden hello" if there was no transfer fee involved?[/p][/quote]Arnie glad your back! Yes no doubt sharp got a few quid signing on fee , but Leeds have taken the wise move in spending on quality rather than numbers, there is no cheap way to entertain or score goals , you should watch sharp score that goal yesterday, forget the money this guy loves scoring.. Watch his celebrations, I was going to ask you about season ticket sales ! But 10% down is a massive drop and I don't want to rub it in, unless they sort this mess out in next 14 days, next years sales will drop by 25% or 2.5 million pounds, You keep telling us what a great job barber and Burke are doing! Would you agree one or both should be sacked if my prediction is correct for next year?[/p][/quote]Sacked? Not unless someone can provide actual, genuine proof (i.e. evidence rather than opinion, conjecture or "I would imagine") that they are not doing their jobs within the remit laid down by Tony Bloom. And no, the current lack of "exciting players" coming in is not evidence of anything other than players not coming in. Bloom has a plan and he has employed Barber, Burke, and countless others to implement that plan. FFP is a massive part of that and the fruits will not be known until into the new year. There's no point commenting on the squad until the end of the window either. It is not strong enough at the moment but that is subject to change. Anyone slating the club at this point is, IMO, being premature. PS: re your comments about Sharp - maybe you could show me, to further make your point, a player who does not like scoring goals?[/p][/quote]The reason people are commenting on the squad before the end of the window is because when Sami was appointed, Mr Bloom said: '' I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.” It is this moving of the goal posts that is a cause for concern with fans, and no doubt, Sami himself. You say yourself, Ex-pat Arnie, that the squad is not strong enough at the moment. David Burke is responsible for player recruitment, so we are faced with two possibilities. Either Tony Bloom was not being sincere when Sami was appointed, or Burke has failed miserably in his duties. Which of the two do you think it is, EPA?[/p][/quote]There are more than two options - you just choose the two that fit your agenda. The time for judging the squad is NOT now, so there is no point in playing this little game. I will form my opinion on the players once all the business has been concluded. If your quote from TB is genuinely verbatim, then I still don't see the problem. Bloom was confident. So what? Did he state that it WOULD be a promotion-capable squad before the Sheff Weds game? Stating confidence something will occur is not the same as its actually happening. And in what SPECIFIC ways do you think Burke is failing? Don't reply "lack of signings" as there is no way of knowing he is at fault for that. Do you actually know what he is doing badly that others laughably think they could do better (but for some unfathomable reason have not been employed by the club)? I'm not saying Burke is great at his job, but that is because I do not know the truth having never witnessed him in action - the same reason none of us can say he is incompetent. Doing so just uses him as a convenient scapegoat and I will have no part in it.[/p][/quote]I have never liked bull**** and spin, and my only agenda is to try to cut through some of it in an attempt to uncover what is really going on. Here is the link to Mr Bloom's assurances that Sami would have the players BEFORE the start of the season, to give him a chance of promotion. http://www.theargus. co.uk/sport/11275408 .No_pressure_but_Blo om_believes_Hyypia_w ill_have_another_com petitive_squad_to_ta rget_top_six/[/p][/quote]All that confirms, surely, is that Bloom believed Sami would indeed have a decent squad. It says nothing new whatsoever. I have no doubt Bloom did believe that Sami would have that squad before the season. PS: There is a difference between assurances and "I am confident", no? There was no guarantee, just (slightly misplaced) confidence. The window has not closed... the time to worry is then (if applicable), not now. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

4:56pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day!
The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site!
Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it!
Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar.
Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue!
Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble!
1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows?
Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind.
Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day! The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site! Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it! Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar. Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue! Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble! 1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows? Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind. Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 13

4:59pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

This Dutch lad is unfit and will need a few weeks just to get up to speed, having not had a club for some time. That tells it's own story. Although I'm not convinced the albion squad is especially fit anyway, should fit in well, alongside Agustien.
This Dutch lad is unfit and will need a few weeks just to get up to speed, having not had a club for some time. That tells it's own story. Although I'm not convinced the albion squad is especially fit anyway, should fit in well, alongside Agustien. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -4

4:59pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Do you do condescending full time or part time?
This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.
What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February .
The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons ..
Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex?
Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not?
I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.
Only 10? Flipping heck, that's way, way less even than me, and apparently I don't go either.

:-D
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Do you do condescending full time or part time?[/p][/quote]This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.[/p][/quote]What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February . The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons .. Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex? Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not? I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.[/p][/quote]Only 10? Flipping heck, that's way, way less even than me, and apparently I don't go either. :-D Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

5:04pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
'Know' not 'no'
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]'Know' not 'no' Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -5

5:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
The word your looking to express Tugs opinions is PASSIONATE, me and tug go at it like cat and dog on here, I might no agree with him all the time, buts that's what's this for to agree or disagree, I usually like his posts but lately I don't agree with some, that's what makes us all passionate we want our club to do well, I've nothing against Tug or anyone, even though he called me a wally!! Made me laugh!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]The word your looking to express Tugs opinions is PASSIONATE, me and tug go at it like cat and dog on here, I might no agree with him all the time, buts that's what's this for to agree or disagree, I usually like his posts but lately I don't agree with some, that's what makes us all passionate we want our club to do well, I've nothing against Tug or anyone, even though he called me a wally!! Made me laugh!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -3

5:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Do you do condescending full time or part time?
This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.
What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February .
The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons ..
Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex?
Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not?
I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.
Only 10? Flipping heck, that's way, way less even than me, and apparently I don't go either.

:-D
I used to work in Asia for best part of ten years, so I would fly back and catch Xmas games. There was no internet / or online stuff, I used to listen to the BBC world service, some days they only read out results once a day,
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Do you do condescending full time or part time?[/p][/quote]This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.[/p][/quote]What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February . The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons .. Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex? Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not? I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.[/p][/quote]Only 10? Flipping heck, that's way, way less even than me, and apparently I don't go either. :-D[/p][/quote]I used to work in Asia for best part of ten years, so I would fly back and catch Xmas games. There was no internet / or online stuff, I used to listen to the BBC world service, some days they only read out results once a day, mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

5:13pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
This Dutch lad is unfit and will need a few weeks just to get up to speed, having not had a club for some time. That tells it's own story. Although I'm not convinced the albion squad is especially fit anyway, should fit in well, alongside Agustien.
Will he fit, alongside! Lol
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: This Dutch lad is unfit and will need a few weeks just to get up to speed, having not had a club for some time. That tells it's own story. Although I'm not convinced the albion squad is especially fit anyway, should fit in well, alongside Agustien.[/p][/quote]Will he fit, alongside! Lol To baldly go
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
'Know' not 'no'
Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]'Know' not 'no'[/p][/quote]Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion. Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 0

5:29pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
Definitely somebody who makes changes to their lifestyle to accommodate following their team. The main one being attending matches.
Also those who buy merchandise, and those who subscribe to services such as Seagulls Player.

Maybe I am wrong about Positive Trolls, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]Definitely somebody who makes changes to their lifestyle to accommodate following their team. The main one being attending matches. Also those who buy merchandise, and those who subscribe to services such as Seagulls Player. Maybe I am wrong about Positive Trolls, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility. gordongull
  • Score: -3

5:31pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Towner83 says...

Lord Hamilton wrote:
I was not Ashley Barnes's biggest fan but I wish he had played for us on Saturday... and last Saturday as well.
And me
[quote][p][bold]Lord Hamilton[/bold] wrote: I was not Ashley Barnes's biggest fan but I wish he had played for us on Saturday... and last Saturday as well.[/p][/quote]And me Towner83
  • Score: 3

5:34pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Do you do condescending full time or part time?
This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.
What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February .
The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons ..
Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex?
Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not?
I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.
Great post MBTS.I don't think tug cares one bit the guy has passion for his club.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Do you do condescending full time or part time?[/p][/quote]This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.[/p][/quote]What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February . The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons .. Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex? Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not? I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.[/p][/quote]Great post MBTS.I don't think tug cares one bit the guy has passion for his club. Please wake up
  • Score: -5

5:35pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
'Know' not 'no'
Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.
It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]'Know' not 'no'[/p][/quote]Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.[/p][/quote]It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -4

5:39pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
'Know' not 'no'
Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.
It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.
Haha thanks for enlightening me on that one Mr Brittas! But as you've decided to take your affections elsewhere, I wonder why you're bothered with us still? No, I suspect you didn't go to see Eastbourne either. In fact I wonder if you ever really watch football at all?
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]'Know' not 'no'[/p][/quote]Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.[/p][/quote]It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.[/p][/quote]Haha thanks for enlightening me on that one Mr Brittas! But as you've decided to take your affections elsewhere, I wonder why you're bothered with us still? No, I suspect you didn't go to see Eastbourne either. In fact I wonder if you ever really watch football at all? Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 0

5:42pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gardens04 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gardens04 wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth?
Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!!
We'll can't you work it out been without a club for 12weeks if he was that good there would be a queue of clubs snapping him up and freebie .11mil bought in only spent 1.5 on 6 players and that's to much .MOD last night 6 ex Brighton players in the prem 2were loan players for us woods/Hammond they all played for Gus and they think we can replace them with 1.5mil of crap
Ward was 'not wanted,' by Wolves for at least 12 weeks, not even training with the squad, he is now with prem club. Several players have been signed by our competitors that were 'not wanted,' and several of them should have been our targets according to some on here, so what's the big deal about this lad not being with a club when we signed him. TK is without a club, does that make his less good?
It means he's average .Ward was being paid by wolves and a prem club was sniffing around him we acted to slow . Now ask the question why .money ? So we go a grab a player that no other club had on there books .football is a business if he was decent someone would have him on there books and look for a return .So that's 6 players in costing 1.5 we sold 6players making around 15 mil that will determine we're we finish this season . The bottom 10 clubs have spent more
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gardens04[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Cannot beleive the negative response on this. Been a lot of moaning about the lack of signings and I include myself in that but now we sign a player with experience and on a three year contract. Do we think the club would sign someone on a three year contract if they did not beleive his worth? Welcome Danny and hope you enjoy playing for the Seagulls!!![/p][/quote]We'll can't you work it out been without a club for 12weeks if he was that good there would be a queue of clubs snapping him up and freebie .11mil bought in only spent 1.5 on 6 players and that's to much .MOD last night 6 ex Brighton players in the prem 2were loan players for us woods/Hammond they all played for Gus and they think we can replace them with 1.5mil of crap[/p][/quote]Ward was 'not wanted,' by Wolves for at least 12 weeks, not even training with the squad, he is now with prem club. Several players have been signed by our competitors that were 'not wanted,' and several of them should have been our targets according to some on here, so what's the big deal about this lad not being with a club when we signed him. TK is without a club, does that make his less good?[/p][/quote]It means he's average .Ward was being paid by wolves and a prem club was sniffing around him we acted to slow . Now ask the question why .money ? So we go a grab a player that no other club had on there books .football is a business if he was decent someone would have him on there books and look for a return .So that's 6 players in costing 1.5 we sold 6players making around 15 mil that will determine we're we finish this season . The bottom 10 clubs have spent more gardens04
  • Score: 2

5:43pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

To baldly go wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
This Dutch lad is unfit and will need a few weeks just to get up to speed, having not had a club for some time. That tells it's own story. Although I'm not convinced the albion squad is especially fit anyway, should fit in well, alongside Agustien.
Will he fit, alongside! Lol
Put both the Dutch porkers on the goal line and nothing will get past. Playing offside will be tricky but our goals against column will look rosy. We won't even need a keeper anymore, saving the club money.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: This Dutch lad is unfit and will need a few weeks just to get up to speed, having not had a club for some time. That tells it's own story. Although I'm not convinced the albion squad is especially fit anyway, should fit in well, alongside Agustien.[/p][/quote]Will he fit, alongside! Lol[/p][/quote]Put both the Dutch porkers on the goal line and nothing will get past. Playing offside will be tricky but our goals against column will look rosy. We won't even need a keeper anymore, saving the club money. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -6

5:55pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Do you do condescending full time or part time?
This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.
What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February .
The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons ..
Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex?
Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not?
I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.
Only 10? Flipping heck, that's way, way less even than me, and apparently I don't go either.

:-D
I used to work in Asia for best part of ten years, so I would fly back and catch Xmas games. There was no internet / or online stuff, I used to listen to the BBC world service, some days they only read out results once a day,
And did you not consider yourself an Albion fan when you weren't a regular attendee?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Do you do condescending full time or part time?[/p][/quote]This from the guy who 'was told in person,' that Ulloa had a 7 million release clause in his contract, he never stopped telling us how right he was, how did that work out for you Mark? Must be great to have such, 'reliable,' connections to have a drink with.[/p][/quote]What the same guy who introduced me to the Leicester scout in February . The guy I was with is a technical advisor to the FA , and coached Bale , Walcott lalanna , I would rather listen to him than your boring sermons .. Have you actually ever been and watched the Albion at the withdean or Amex? Do you really think tug or anyone cares if you decide if they are a fan or not? I have had at least 10 season tickets in my life, even though I miss a month of the season every year, obviously I am not a fan.[/p][/quote]Only 10? Flipping heck, that's way, way less even than me, and apparently I don't go either. :-D[/p][/quote]I used to work in Asia for best part of ten years, so I would fly back and catch Xmas games. There was no internet / or online stuff, I used to listen to the BBC world service, some days they only read out results once a day,[/p][/quote]And did you not consider yourself an Albion fan when you weren't a regular attendee? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

6:00pm Sun 17 Aug 14

wolf miguel says...

Its amazing we have 15 football pitches & about 15 adequate players who are fit to play on them! Why o' Why did we spend £26.000.000 on building that **** training structure at Lancing? Instead of providing some extra funds to Gus or Oscar which may have given us the edge over Palace & Hull these last two seasons? What was the hurry for matches for the 18/21s to be against premier team reserves deemed so necessary two years ago? Wrong priorities we should have got to the Premier league first!!!
Its amazing we have 15 football pitches & about 15 adequate players who are fit to play on them! Why o' Why did we spend £26.000.000 on building that **** training structure at Lancing? Instead of providing some extra funds to Gus or Oscar which may have given us the edge over Palace & Hull these last two seasons? What was the hurry for matches for the 18/21s to be against premier team reserves deemed so necessary two years ago? Wrong priorities we should have got to the Premier league first!!! wolf miguel
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in. Judging by the e-mail I received it is clear that FFP rules are playing a big part in the way the club is being run and , like it or not, that is the correct way of running things. Clubs NOT abiding by those rules will have their judgement day later in the year and we all hope that the FA´s teeth are strong and vicious!!. To give you a short example of why I think it is important to run the club on strong financial lines ---I worked for a large company in their Direct Sales Division and the company ploughed millions into that division, unfortunately a relative few Sales executives earned money for the company so they pulled the plug on the Direct Sales Division--luckily I had retired . The same could happen to BHA if it were not run on good sound financial lines. We have to be patient if we are to see the club survive. My belief is that in the future many clubs will go to the wall judging by the debt of many. Many on here are saying spend all the millions we have got for Ulloa, Buckley etc. That is not the way to go, it is a too big a gamble. WE have come on an enormous journey in a very short time and we could break our legs if we run too fast too soon. I want the Club to do well now but not at the expense of the CLub as a whole. I believe we will get in players---maybe not those star players we all hoped for--but players who will keep us in this division at a decent level and then we can reduce the debt, build the club with decent players who will eventually get us in the Premiership to stay there for some time. We do not want to yo yo up and down the Divisions so better to be steady until we are FULLY prepared for the next leap up. I appreciate many on here do not have a business mind but I bet plenty on here have lost their jobs from companies with bad finance planning.
As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in. Judging by the e-mail I received it is clear that FFP rules are playing a big part in the way the club is being run and , like it or not, that is the correct way of running things. Clubs NOT abiding by those rules will have their judgement day later in the year and we all hope that the FA´s teeth are strong and vicious!!. To give you a short example of why I think it is important to run the club on strong financial lines ---I worked for a large company in their Direct Sales Division and the company ploughed millions into that division, unfortunately a relative few Sales executives earned money for the company so they pulled the plug on the Direct Sales Division--luckily I had retired . The same could happen to BHA if it were not run on good sound financial lines. We have to be patient if we are to see the club survive. My belief is that in the future many clubs will go to the wall judging by the debt of many. Many on here are saying spend all the millions we have got for Ulloa, Buckley etc. That is not the way to go, it is a too big a gamble. WE have come on an enormous journey in a very short time and we could break our legs if we run too fast too soon. I want the Club to do well now but not at the expense of the CLub as a whole. I believe we will get in players---maybe not those star players we all hoped for--but players who will keep us in this division at a decent level and then we can reduce the debt, build the club with decent players who will eventually get us in the Premiership to stay there for some time. We do not want to yo yo up and down the Divisions so better to be steady until we are FULLY prepared for the next leap up. I appreciate many on here do not have a business mind but I bet plenty on here have lost their jobs from companies with bad finance planning. mikeygit
  • Score: 5

6:08pm Sun 17 Aug 14

SuperSeagull92 says...

To baldly go wrote:
AlanDuffy wrote:
Alan Duffy wrote:
I'm seriously beginning to think this season is going to be ok, we obviously have a smaller budget than a lot of the other teams in this division, and I think where a lot of problems have arisen is we've tried to sign players who can demand higher wages than we can offer and then lost out on the deals, makes us look incompetent, so that leaves us with two options. 1. Up our offers (suicidal) or 2. Don't go for unrealistic targets. It doesn't matter what other clubs can/cannot afford, Warren Aspinall said yesterday that Billy Sharp went to Leeds for £20,000 a week, that to me was a real eye opener, so I'm showing understanding abd not criticising anymore.
From one Alan to another, I agree. £20k a week for a player in this division is unrealistic - we need to be seeking out lesser known players rather than going for the obvious targets.
Unless the £20k a week gets you goals, fills the stadium and pushes you to the playoffs or better!
In regards to what Warren Aspinall was saying re:Billy Sharp - Warren stated that Leeds are paying him 20k pw but thats not entirely true. Billy Sharp took a 50% wage cut in exchange for receiving the transfer fee which supplements the deal so that only for the next year he receives 20k pw. His actual wage must be around 9-10k pw.

A quote from online: 'Southampton were willing to offload the player, who had one year left on his contract, but Sharp has agreed to take a 50 per cent wage cut to secure the transfer. Leeds have agreed to pay Sharp the £600,000 that remained on his deal at St Mary's to compensate'
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Duffy[/bold] wrote: I'm seriously beginning to think this season is going to be ok, we obviously have a smaller budget than a lot of the other teams in this division, and I think where a lot of problems have arisen is we've tried to sign players who can demand higher wages than we can offer and then lost out on the deals, makes us look incompetent, so that leaves us with two options. 1. Up our offers (suicidal) or 2. Don't go for unrealistic targets. It doesn't matter what other clubs can/cannot afford, Warren Aspinall said yesterday that Billy Sharp went to Leeds for £20,000 a week, that to me was a real eye opener, so I'm showing understanding abd not criticising anymore.[/p][/quote]From one Alan to another, I agree. £20k a week for a player in this division is unrealistic - we need to be seeking out lesser known players rather than going for the obvious targets.[/p][/quote]Unless the £20k a week gets you goals, fills the stadium and pushes you to the playoffs or better![/p][/quote]In regards to what Warren Aspinall was saying re:Billy Sharp - Warren stated that Leeds are paying him 20k pw but thats not entirely true. Billy Sharp took a 50% wage cut in exchange for receiving the transfer fee which supplements the deal so that only for the next year he receives 20k pw. His actual wage must be around 9-10k pw. A quote from online: 'Southampton were willing to offload the player, who had one year left on his contract, but Sharp has agreed to take a 50 per cent wage cut to secure the transfer. Leeds have agreed to pay Sharp the £600,000 that remained on his deal at St Mary's to compensate' SuperSeagull92
  • Score: 8

6:10pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Welcome to the squad Danny Boy.

In my humble opinion, those who choose to slag off the player without any first hand knowledge of him simply underline their own stupidity, especially when the few that have knowledge of the lad give very favourable comments on the whole. It may not be the position that most people most want filled immediately but I see no problem with competition for midfield places. Three year contract? Well, just maybe they've got it right? Shall we hold off the unnecessary personal attacks on this lad and wait a few months before making a more informed judgement? Jeez some people eh?!!

UTA!!
Welcome to the squad Danny Boy. In my humble opinion, those who choose to slag off the player without any first hand knowledge of him simply underline their own stupidity, especially when the few that have knowledge of the lad give very favourable comments on the whole. It may not be the position that most people most want filled immediately but I see no problem with competition for midfield places. Three year contract? Well, just maybe they've got it right? Shall we hold off the unnecessary personal attacks on this lad and wait a few months before making a more informed judgement? Jeez some people eh?!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 5

6:11pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

wolf miguel wrote:
Its amazing we have 15 football pitches & about 15 adequate players who are fit to play on them! Why o' Why did we spend £26.000.000 on building that **** training structure at Lancing? Instead of providing some extra funds to Gus or Oscar which may have given us the edge over Palace & Hull these last two seasons? What was the hurry for matches for the 18/21s to be against premier team reserves deemed so necessary two years ago? Wrong priorities we should have got to the Premier league first!!!
Three letters, the first two of them the same.
[quote][p][bold]wolf miguel[/bold] wrote: Its amazing we have 15 football pitches & about 15 adequate players who are fit to play on them! Why o' Why did we spend £26.000.000 on building that **** training structure at Lancing? Instead of providing some extra funds to Gus or Oscar which may have given us the edge over Palace & Hull these last two seasons? What was the hurry for matches for the 18/21s to be against premier team reserves deemed so necessary two years ago? Wrong priorities we should have got to the Premier league first!!![/p][/quote]Three letters, the first two of them the same. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

6:17pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Lawro was God says...

mark by the sea wrote:
We seem to be throwing 3-4 year deals around, Dunk gets a 4 year deal,
Cog on a 3 year deal , and now this guy on a three year deal, the only thing I can see is those three sitting on the bench.
All this while we could not offer Barnes a three year deal?
Which means there must have been more to the Barnes story than we know Mark.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: We seem to be throwing 3-4 year deals around, Dunk gets a 4 year deal, Cog on a 3 year deal , and now this guy on a three year deal, the only thing I can see is those three sitting on the bench. All this while we could not offer Barnes a three year deal?[/p][/quote]Which means there must have been more to the Barnes story than we know Mark. Lawro was God
  • Score: 0

6:20pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

wolf miguel wrote:
Its amazing we have 15 football pitches & about 15 adequate players who are fit to play on them! Why o' Why did we spend £26.000.000 on building that **** training structure at Lancing? Instead of providing some extra funds to Gus or Oscar which may have given us the edge over Palace & Hull these last two seasons? What was the hurry for matches for the 18/21s to be against premier team reserves deemed so necessary two years ago? Wrong priorities we should have got to the Premier league first!!!
The cost of Lancing would probably have got us promoted. Hull did it on £26m, and Cardiff on £31m.
We could be watching Louis Suarez and David Luiz at the Withdean for the price of the new stadium.

That's how Portsmouth did it.......
[quote][p][bold]wolf miguel[/bold] wrote: Its amazing we have 15 football pitches & about 15 adequate players who are fit to play on them! Why o' Why did we spend £26.000.000 on building that **** training structure at Lancing? Instead of providing some extra funds to Gus or Oscar which may have given us the edge over Palace & Hull these last two seasons? What was the hurry for matches for the 18/21s to be against premier team reserves deemed so necessary two years ago? Wrong priorities we should have got to the Premier league first!!![/p][/quote]The cost of Lancing would probably have got us promoted. Hull did it on £26m, and Cardiff on £31m. We could be watching Louis Suarez and David Luiz at the Withdean for the price of the new stadium. That's how Portsmouth did it....... gordongull
  • Score: 4

7:25pm Sun 17 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
All i can say is.

You are a creep-Radiohead
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]All i can say is. You are a creep-Radiohead don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 5

7:31pm Sun 17 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
'Know' not 'no'
Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.
It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.
Haha thanks for enlightening me on that one Mr Brittas! But as you've decided to take your affections elsewhere, I wonder why you're bothered with us still? No, I suspect you didn't go to see Eastbourne either. In fact I wonder if you ever really watch football at all?
You kinda remind me of going out with 6 lads to the pub and when its your round,you go to the little boys room,please its your round ,urinate off.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]'Know' not 'no'[/p][/quote]Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.[/p][/quote]It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.[/p][/quote]Haha thanks for enlightening me on that one Mr Brittas! But as you've decided to take your affections elsewhere, I wonder why you're bothered with us still? No, I suspect you didn't go to see Eastbourne either. In fact I wonder if you ever really watch football at all?[/p][/quote]You kinda remind me of going out with 6 lads to the pub and when its your round,you go to the little boys room,please its your round ,urinate off. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -5

7:33pm Sun 17 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

gordongull wrote:
wolf miguel wrote:
Its amazing we have 15 football pitches & about 15 adequate players who are fit to play on them! Why o' Why did we spend £26.000.000 on building that **** training structure at Lancing? Instead of providing some extra funds to Gus or Oscar which may have given us the edge over Palace & Hull these last two seasons? What was the hurry for matches for the 18/21s to be against premier team reserves deemed so necessary two years ago? Wrong priorities we should have got to the Premier league first!!!
The cost of Lancing would probably have got us promoted. Hull did it on £26m, and Cardiff on £31m.
We could be watching Louis Suarez and David Luiz at the Withdean for the price of the new stadium.

That's how Portsmouth did it.......
Short CRAP-CRAP posts
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wolf miguel[/bold] wrote: Its amazing we have 15 football pitches & about 15 adequate players who are fit to play on them! Why o' Why did we spend £26.000.000 on building that **** training structure at Lancing? Instead of providing some extra funds to Gus or Oscar which may have given us the edge over Palace & Hull these last two seasons? What was the hurry for matches for the 18/21s to be against premier team reserves deemed so necessary two years ago? Wrong priorities we should have got to the Premier league first!!![/p][/quote]The cost of Lancing would probably have got us promoted. Hull did it on £26m, and Cardiff on £31m. We could be watching Louis Suarez and David Luiz at the Withdean for the price of the new stadium. That's how Portsmouth did it.......[/p][/quote]Short CRAP-CRAP posts don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -3

7:35pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Merdalf the Wizard says...

Welcome to the Albion.
I'm with those who say 'wait and see' with regard to passing comment on this player.
As for sitting on his arris for 12 weeks, not snapped up by anyone. TK has been doing that and I doubt there's many on here who would say no to him resigning.
Like many I am 'frustrated' at the lack of the 20 goals a season striker we're all waiting for, also like many, I wont stop supporting the Albion if we don't sign one.
Following Brighton is not one of the easiest pass times/way of life/religion, but it's certainly never dull, I'd think something was wrong if everything we tried went smoothly.
UTA
Welcome to the Albion. I'm with those who say 'wait and see' with regard to passing comment on this player. As for sitting on his arris for 12 weeks, not snapped up by anyone. TK has been doing that and I doubt there's many on here who would say no to him resigning. Like many I am 'frustrated' at the lack of the 20 goals a season striker we're all waiting for, also like many, I wont stop supporting the Albion if we don't sign one. Following Brighton is not one of the easiest pass times/way of life/religion, but it's certainly never dull, I'd think something was wrong if everything we tried went smoothly. UTA Merdalf the Wizard
  • Score: 8

7:36pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day!
The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site!
Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it!
Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar.
Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue!
Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble!
1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows?
Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind.
Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA
Interesting post, TBG.
I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent.
But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money.
As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day! The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site! Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it! Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar. Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue! Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble! 1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows? Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind. Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA[/p][/quote]Interesting post, TBG. I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent. But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money. As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested. gordongull
  • Score: 0

7:36pm Sun 17 Aug 14

bruce beckett says...

"As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in."


Sorry, Mike, but you're wrong. Judgement day was August 7...the day the season started and other teams began collecting points.

Do you think last year's starting XI would have lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday and away to a Birmingham team that hadn't won at home for 11 months?

We've given our rivals a six-point start, which could rise to 15 by the time the window closes.

Look at the business done during the summer by clubs like Nottingham Forest. I don't care if we sign Messi and Suarez on August 31, this transfer window has been an epic fail by the recruiting team at Brighton and Hove Albion.
"As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in." Sorry, Mike, but you're wrong. Judgement day was August 7...the day the season started and other teams began collecting points. Do you think last year's starting XI would have lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday and away to a Birmingham team that hadn't won at home for 11 months? We've given our rivals a six-point start, which could rise to 15 by the time the window closes. Look at the business done during the summer by clubs like Nottingham Forest. I don't care if we sign Messi and Suarez on August 31, this transfer window has been an epic fail by the recruiting team at Brighton and Hove Albion. bruce beckett
  • Score: -3

7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark5 says...

mikeygit wrote:
As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in. Judging by the e-mail I received it is clear that FFP rules are playing a big part in the way the club is being run and , like it or not, that is the correct way of running things. Clubs NOT abiding by those rules will have their judgement day later in the year and we all hope that the FA´s teeth are strong and vicious!!. To give you a short example of why I think it is important to run the club on strong financial lines ---I worked for a large company in their Direct Sales Division and the company ploughed millions into that division, unfortunately a relative few Sales executives earned money for the company so they pulled the plug on the Direct Sales Division--luckily I had retired . The same could happen to BHA if it were not run on good sound financial lines. We have to be patient if we are to see the club survive. My belief is that in the future many clubs will go to the wall judging by the debt of many. Many on here are saying spend all the millions we have got for Ulloa, Buckley etc. That is not the way to go, it is a too big a gamble. WE have come on an enormous journey in a very short time and we could break our legs if we run too fast too soon. I want the Club to do well now but not at the expense of the CLub as a whole. I believe we will get in players---maybe not those star players we all hoped for--but players who will keep us in this division at a decent level and then we can reduce the debt, build the club with decent players who will eventually get us in the Premiership to stay there for some time. We do not want to yo yo up and down the Divisions so better to be steady until we are FULLY prepared for the next leap up. I appreciate many on here do not have a business mind but I bet plenty on here have lost their jobs from companies with bad finance planning.
Top post and I agree with all you say! I believe that there will be, in the short term, some relatively high profile clubs that get into serious trouble, by reckless spending and a "death or glory" approach to winning "success. You only have to look a short way down the south coast to see the problems than can be created with this type of approach! I remain absolutely confident, that as we have been promised, we will have a decent squad, to keep us competing at the right end of the league without gambling the financial future of the club in the process! This season will all be about consolidation and re-building for the future, but I still believe that this will not mean we are not there or thereabouts come May next year. It will no doubt be tough for the first half of the season as new players adapt etc, but we will come good when it matters, so an exciting season ahead, once this short term malaise is rectified! UTA
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in. Judging by the e-mail I received it is clear that FFP rules are playing a big part in the way the club is being run and , like it or not, that is the correct way of running things. Clubs NOT abiding by those rules will have their judgement day later in the year and we all hope that the FA´s teeth are strong and vicious!!. To give you a short example of why I think it is important to run the club on strong financial lines ---I worked for a large company in their Direct Sales Division and the company ploughed millions into that division, unfortunately a relative few Sales executives earned money for the company so they pulled the plug on the Direct Sales Division--luckily I had retired . The same could happen to BHA if it were not run on good sound financial lines. We have to be patient if we are to see the club survive. My belief is that in the future many clubs will go to the wall judging by the debt of many. Many on here are saying spend all the millions we have got for Ulloa, Buckley etc. That is not the way to go, it is a too big a gamble. WE have come on an enormous journey in a very short time and we could break our legs if we run too fast too soon. I want the Club to do well now but not at the expense of the CLub as a whole. I believe we will get in players---maybe not those star players we all hoped for--but players who will keep us in this division at a decent level and then we can reduce the debt, build the club with decent players who will eventually get us in the Premiership to stay there for some time. We do not want to yo yo up and down the Divisions so better to be steady until we are FULLY prepared for the next leap up. I appreciate many on here do not have a business mind but I bet plenty on here have lost their jobs from companies with bad finance planning.[/p][/quote]Top post and I agree with all you say! I believe that there will be, in the short term, some relatively high profile clubs that get into serious trouble, by reckless spending and a "death or glory" approach to winning "success. You only have to look a short way down the south coast to see the problems than can be created with this type of approach! I remain absolutely confident, that as we have been promised, we will have a decent squad, to keep us competing at the right end of the league without gambling the financial future of the club in the process! This season will all be about consolidation and re-building for the future, but I still believe that this will not mean we are not there or thereabouts come May next year. It will no doubt be tough for the first half of the season as new players adapt etc, but we will come good when it matters, so an exciting season ahead, once this short term malaise is rectified! UTA mark5
  • Score: 3

7:54pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
All i can say is.

You are a creep-Radiohead
Have you ever considered learning English?
It might give us a clue what you are talking about.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]All i can say is. You are a creep-Radiohead[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered learning English? It might give us a clue what you are talking about. gordongull
  • Score: -4

8:00pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark5 says...

.................als
o to those that are questioning the value of the training academy, stadium etc, over paying big money to get "star"players, any successful business will have historically invested in the right infrastructure to build upon. Without strong infrastructure, any business is likely to fail and a football club is a business, in a bigger way than it has ever been, whether as fans, we like it or not! In years to come, we will have a sustainable football club, that has the the ability to play at the highest level, year after year and entertain us. It's the long term we need to focus on, not "flash in the pan" success at all costs.
.................als o to those that are questioning the value of the training academy, stadium etc, over paying big money to get "star"players, any successful business will have historically invested in the right infrastructure to build upon. Without strong infrastructure, any business is likely to fail and a football club is a business, in a bigger way than it has ever been, whether as fans, we like it or not! In years to come, we will have a sustainable football club, that has the the ability to play at the highest level, year after year and entertain us. It's the long term we need to focus on, not "flash in the pan" success at all costs. mark5
  • Score: 8

8:01pm Sun 17 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

gordongull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
All i can say is.

You are a creep-Radiohead
Have you ever considered learning English?
It might give us a clue what you are talking about.
Listen to the song,its in english;
Us,maybe just you,slimeball DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]All i can say is. You are a creep-Radiohead[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered learning English? It might give us a clue what you are talking about.[/p][/quote]Listen to the song,its in english; Us,maybe just you,slimeball DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 5

8:08pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Welcome to the squad Danny Boy.

In my humble opinion, those who choose to slag off the player without any first hand knowledge of him simply underline their own stupidity, especially when the few that have knowledge of the lad give very favourable comments on the whole. It may not be the position that most people most want filled immediately but I see no problem with competition for midfield places. Three year contract? Well, just maybe they've got it right? Shall we hold off the unnecessary personal attacks on this lad and wait a few months before making a more informed judgement? Jeez some people eh?!!

UTA!!
How do you know those that slag him off don't know him? Maybe those that say they know him are just looking for a thumbs up!
At the end of the day he's a vertual unknown to 99% of us! unemployed and unfit apparently, if he can't look after himself whilst looking for employment what does that say about the guy! should have been 6 months like Rodney, if he's no good get rid, if he shows well then give him the 3 yrs, a win either way for the club, and us.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: Welcome to the squad Danny Boy. In my humble opinion, those who choose to slag off the player without any first hand knowledge of him simply underline their own stupidity, especially when the few that have knowledge of the lad give very favourable comments on the whole. It may not be the position that most people most want filled immediately but I see no problem with competition for midfield places. Three year contract? Well, just maybe they've got it right? Shall we hold off the unnecessary personal attacks on this lad and wait a few months before making a more informed judgement? Jeez some people eh?!! UTA!![/p][/quote]How do you know those that slag him off don't know him? Maybe those that say they know him are just looking for a thumbs up! At the end of the day he's a vertual unknown to 99% of us! unemployed and unfit apparently, if he can't look after himself whilst looking for employment what does that say about the guy! should have been 6 months like Rodney, if he's no good get rid, if he shows well then give him the 3 yrs, a win either way for the club, and us. To baldly go
  • Score: -1

8:10pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
All i can say is.

You are a creep-Radiohead
Have you ever considered learning English?
It might give us a clue what you are talking about.
Listen to the song,its in english;
Us,maybe just you,slimeball DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
Not that post, I'm talking about all the others.
99% of what you write is unintelligible.
It's difficult to know if learned English from a Wind-up Merchant, or if you are just an idiot.
I'm going for the second option.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]All i can say is. You are a creep-Radiohead[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered learning English? It might give us a clue what you are talking about.[/p][/quote]Listen to the song,its in english; Us,maybe just you,slimeball DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT[/p][/quote]Not that post, I'm talking about all the others. 99% of what you write is unintelligible. It's difficult to know if learned English from a Wind-up Merchant, or if you are just an idiot. I'm going for the second option. gordongull
  • Score: -3

8:16pm Sun 17 Aug 14

stonegold says...

Long gone are the days when I travelled to the Amex expecting to be excited and entertained and travelled away expecting a competitive performance. I think it's too much to expect that this will all get fixed by the end of the month.
Long gone are the days when I travelled to the Amex expecting to be excited and entertained and travelled away expecting a competitive performance. I think it's too much to expect that this will all get fixed by the end of the month. stonegold
  • Score: -4

8:24pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

mark5 wrote:
.................als

o to those that are questioning the value of the training academy, stadium etc, over paying big money to get "star"players, any successful business will have historically invested in the right infrastructure to build upon. Without strong infrastructure, any business is likely to fail and a football club is a business, in a bigger way than it has ever been, whether as fans, we like it or not! In years to come, we will have a sustainable football club, that has the the ability to play at the highest level, year after year and entertain us. It's the long term we need to focus on, not "flash in the pan" success at all costs.
Don't think we're looking for flash in the pan success. We are looking to stay competitive! We got £10.5m for Ulloa and Buckley, 2 players we were apparently not going to sell, so that money could be used to get the right players in, Ward, not my favourite, but should have been bought in earlier, Clayton, we should have offered £2m and grabbed him, Sharp instead of Cog, Assombalonga, another one we could have gone for, if we had got those 4 players, that would have been about £4m plus wages, still leaving millions of £s in the bank to satisfy FFP and we would have a squad capable of the playoffs or better, instead of that we have a big bank balance and a possible relegation fight on our hands.
[quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: .................als o to those that are questioning the value of the training academy, stadium etc, over paying big money to get "star"players, any successful business will have historically invested in the right infrastructure to build upon. Without strong infrastructure, any business is likely to fail and a football club is a business, in a bigger way than it has ever been, whether as fans, we like it or not! In years to come, we will have a sustainable football club, that has the the ability to play at the highest level, year after year and entertain us. It's the long term we need to focus on, not "flash in the pan" success at all costs.[/p][/quote]Don't think we're looking for flash in the pan success. We are looking to stay competitive! We got £10.5m for Ulloa and Buckley, 2 players we were apparently not going to sell, so that money could be used to get the right players in, Ward, not my favourite, but should have been bought in earlier, Clayton, we should have offered £2m and grabbed him, Sharp instead of Cog, Assombalonga, another one we could have gone for, if we had got those 4 players, that would have been about £4m plus wages, still leaving millions of £s in the bank to satisfy FFP and we would have a squad capable of the playoffs or better, instead of that we have a big bank balance and a possible relegation fight on our hands. To baldly go
  • Score: -2

8:26pm Sun 17 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

gordongull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
All i can say is.

You are a creep-Radiohead
Have you ever considered learning English?
It might give us a clue what you are talking about.
Listen to the song,its in english;
Us,maybe just you,slimeball DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
Not that post, I'm talking about all the others.
99% of what you write is unintelligible.
It's difficult to know if learned English from a Wind-up Merchant, or if you are just an idiot.
I'm going for the second option.
If 99% of my other posts is what you are talking about,thanks for reading them.

An idiot i must be to reply to your crap post.

Keep on putting the boot in ,and then groveling yeah did not mean it like that,when you are put in your place.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]All i can say is. You are a creep-Radiohead[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered learning English? It might give us a clue what you are talking about.[/p][/quote]Listen to the song,its in english; Us,maybe just you,slimeball DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT[/p][/quote]Not that post, I'm talking about all the others. 99% of what you write is unintelligible. It's difficult to know if learned English from a Wind-up Merchant, or if you are just an idiot. I'm going for the second option.[/p][/quote]If 99% of my other posts is what you are talking about,thanks for reading them. An idiot i must be to reply to your crap post. Keep on putting the boot in ,and then groveling yeah did not mean it like that,when you are put in your place. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

8:30pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
'Know' not 'no'
Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.
It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.
Haha thanks for enlightening me on that one Mr Brittas! But as you've decided to take your affections elsewhere, I wonder why you're bothered with us still? No, I suspect you didn't go to see Eastbourne either. In fact I wonder if you ever really watch football at all?
Enjoyed a thoroughly enlightening afternoon at Eastbourne along with other disgruntled seagull suoporters. I'm quite sure I get to more games than you rather than criticise from afar thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]'Know' not 'no'[/p][/quote]Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.[/p][/quote]It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.[/p][/quote]Haha thanks for enlightening me on that one Mr Brittas! But as you've decided to take your affections elsewhere, I wonder why you're bothered with us still? No, I suspect you didn't go to see Eastbourne either. In fact I wonder if you ever really watch football at all?[/p][/quote]Enjoyed a thoroughly enlightening afternoon at Eastbourne along with other disgruntled seagull suoporters. I'm quite sure I get to more games than you rather than criticise from afar thank you. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -7

8:30pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

To baldly go wrote:
mark5 wrote:
.................als


o to those that are questioning the value of the training academy, stadium etc, over paying big money to get "star"players, any successful business will have historically invested in the right infrastructure to build upon. Without strong infrastructure, any business is likely to fail and a football club is a business, in a bigger way than it has ever been, whether as fans, we like it or not! In years to come, we will have a sustainable football club, that has the the ability to play at the highest level, year after year and entertain us. It's the long term we need to focus on, not "flash in the pan" success at all costs.
Don't think we're looking for flash in the pan success. We are looking to stay competitive! We got £10.5m for Ulloa and Buckley, 2 players we were apparently not going to sell, so that money could be used to get the right players in, Ward, not my favourite, but should have been bought in earlier, Clayton, we should have offered £2m and grabbed him, Sharp instead of Cog, Assombalonga, another one we could have gone for, if we had got those 4 players, that would have been about £4m plus wages, still leaving millions of £s in the bank to satisfy FFP and we would have a squad capable of the playoffs or better, instead of that we have a big bank balance and a possible relegation fight on our hands.
My mistake, Assombalonga went for about £5m on his own! Think before you type! Hope you get the point I was trying to make though.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: .................als o to those that are questioning the value of the training academy, stadium etc, over paying big money to get "star"players, any successful business will have historically invested in the right infrastructure to build upon. Without strong infrastructure, any business is likely to fail and a football club is a business, in a bigger way than it has ever been, whether as fans, we like it or not! In years to come, we will have a sustainable football club, that has the the ability to play at the highest level, year after year and entertain us. It's the long term we need to focus on, not "flash in the pan" success at all costs.[/p][/quote]Don't think we're looking for flash in the pan success. We are looking to stay competitive! We got £10.5m for Ulloa and Buckley, 2 players we were apparently not going to sell, so that money could be used to get the right players in, Ward, not my favourite, but should have been bought in earlier, Clayton, we should have offered £2m and grabbed him, Sharp instead of Cog, Assombalonga, another one we could have gone for, if we had got those 4 players, that would have been about £4m plus wages, still leaving millions of £s in the bank to satisfy FFP and we would have a squad capable of the playoffs or better, instead of that we have a big bank balance and a possible relegation fight on our hands.[/p][/quote]My mistake, Assombalonga went for about £5m on his own! Think before you type! Hope you get the point I was trying to make though. To baldly go
  • Score: 2

8:47pm Sun 17 Aug 14

JoeBlow says...

I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it.

Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.
I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it. Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain. JoeBlow
  • Score: 3

8:51pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
All i can say is.

You are a creep-Radiohead
Have you ever considered learning English?
It might give us a clue what you are talking about.
Listen to the song,its in english;
Us,maybe just you,slimeball DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
Not that post, I'm talking about all the others.
99% of what you write is unintelligible.
It's difficult to know if learned English from a Wind-up Merchant, or if you are just an idiot.
I'm going for the second option.
If 99% of my other posts is what you are talking about,thanks for reading them.

An idiot i must be to reply to your crap post.

Keep on putting the boot in ,and then groveling yeah did not mean it like that,when you are put in your place.
I apologise if you have some form of mental disability. I didn't mean to be politically incorrect.
Maybe that is a good reason not to go around slagging people off.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]All i can say is. You are a creep-Radiohead[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered learning English? It might give us a clue what you are talking about.[/p][/quote]Listen to the song,its in english; Us,maybe just you,slimeball DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT[/p][/quote]Not that post, I'm talking about all the others. 99% of what you write is unintelligible. It's difficult to know if learned English from a Wind-up Merchant, or if you are just an idiot. I'm going for the second option.[/p][/quote]If 99% of my other posts is what you are talking about,thanks for reading them. An idiot i must be to reply to your crap post. Keep on putting the boot in ,and then groveling yeah did not mean it like that,when you are put in your place.[/p][/quote]I apologise if you have some form of mental disability. I didn't mean to be politically incorrect. Maybe that is a good reason not to go around slagging people off. gordongull
  • Score: -3

9:01pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

JoeBlow wrote:
I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it.

Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.
But we do have an idea how things are done.
You buy players, and they play in the team.
Otherwise you fall behind everyone else.
Like we are doing.
[quote][p][bold]JoeBlow[/bold] wrote: I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it. Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.[/p][/quote]But we do have an idea how things are done. You buy players, and they play in the team. Otherwise you fall behind everyone else. Like we are doing. gordongull
  • Score: -3

9:16pm Sun 17 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

gordongull wrote:
JoeBlow wrote:
I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it.

Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.
But we do have an idea how things are done.
You buy players, and they play in the team.
Otherwise you fall behind everyone else.
Like we are doing.
Agree with you joe,cuckoo's,player manager playstation.
btw did you understand you'r reply,might as well been in dutch.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JoeBlow[/bold] wrote: I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it. Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.[/p][/quote]But we do have an idea how things are done. You buy players, and they play in the team. Otherwise you fall behind everyone else. Like we are doing.[/p][/quote]Agree with you joe,cuckoo's,player manager playstation. btw did you understand you'r reply,might as well been in dutch. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 3

9:23pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

gordongull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day!
The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site!
Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it!
Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar.
Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue!
Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble!
1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows?
Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind.
Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA
Interesting post, TBG.
I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent.
But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money.
As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.
GG, thanks for the update, didn't realise there's no fines at our level, so what does happen to teams that over spend but don't go up? Is it just a ban on transfers? Not much of a deterrent if that's the case!
If others get next to no punishment it's going to make all our efforts to meet FFP even more frustrating, we're selling our best players, bringing in freebies and substandard players while others will have got away with it.
We will have to wait and see I suppose, but it's very frustrating at the moment, I get people trying to be positive about the new guy etc, but in the cold light if day most of us know we are going to struggle with what we've got and how we are trying to play.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day! The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site! Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it! Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar. Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue! Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble! 1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows? Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind. Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA[/p][/quote]Interesting post, TBG. I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent. But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money. As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.[/p][/quote]GG, thanks for the update, didn't realise there's no fines at our level, so what does happen to teams that over spend but don't go up? Is it just a ban on transfers? Not much of a deterrent if that's the case! If others get next to no punishment it's going to make all our efforts to meet FFP even more frustrating, we're selling our best players, bringing in freebies and substandard players while others will have got away with it. We will have to wait and see I suppose, but it's very frustrating at the moment, I get people trying to be positive about the new guy etc, but in the cold light if day most of us know we are going to struggle with what we've got and how we are trying to play. To baldly go
  • Score: 3

9:27pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
gordongull wrote:
JoeBlow wrote:
I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it.

Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.
But we do have an idea how things are done.
You buy players, and they play in the team.
Otherwise you fall behind everyone else.
Like we are doing.
Agree with you joe,cuckoo's,player manager playstation.
btw did you understand you'r reply,might as well been in dutch.
Just getting a bit of practice in case anyone really offends me.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JoeBlow[/bold] wrote: I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it. Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.[/p][/quote]But we do have an idea how things are done. You buy players, and they play in the team. Otherwise you fall behind everyone else. Like we are doing.[/p][/quote]Agree with you joe,cuckoo's,player manager playstation. btw did you understand you'r reply,might as well been in dutch.[/p][/quote]Just getting a bit of practice in case anyone really offends me. gordongull
  • Score: -2

9:36pm Sun 17 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

gordongull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
Definitely somebody who makes changes to their lifestyle to accommodate following their team. The main one being attending matches.
Also those who buy merchandise, and those who subscribe to services such as Seagulls Player.

Maybe I am wrong about Positive Trolls, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility.
Change there life style to accommodate there team, I'll see you at Elland road on Tuesday then Gordon, or if not sat at the Amex to watch Bolton, we could have a pint and chat, once the Bolton game comes round that will be both our 4th match out off 4 games not bad that, I'll look forward to that chat Gordon, up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]Definitely somebody who makes changes to their lifestyle to accommodate following their team. The main one being attending matches. Also those who buy merchandise, and those who subscribe to services such as Seagulls Player. Maybe I am wrong about Positive Trolls, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility.[/p][/quote]Change there life style to accommodate there team, I'll see you at Elland road on Tuesday then Gordon, or if not sat at the Amex to watch Bolton, we could have a pint and chat, once the Bolton game comes round that will be both our 4th match out off 4 games not bad that, I'll look forward to that chat Gordon, up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -4

9:40pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mark5 says...

To baldly go wrote:
mark5 wrote:
.................als


o to those that are questioning the value of the training academy, stadium etc, over paying big money to get "star"players, any successful business will have historically invested in the right infrastructure to build upon. Without strong infrastructure, any business is likely to fail and a football club is a business, in a bigger way than it has ever been, whether as fans, we like it or not! In years to come, we will have a sustainable football club, that has the the ability to play at the highest level, year after year and entertain us. It's the long term we need to focus on, not "flash in the pan" success at all costs.
Don't think we're looking for flash in the pan success. We are looking to stay competitive! We got £10.5m for Ulloa and Buckley, 2 players we were apparently not going to sell, so that money could be used to get the right players in, Ward, not my favourite, but should have been bought in earlier, Clayton, we should have offered £2m and grabbed him, Sharp instead of Cog, Assombalonga, another one we could have gone for, if we had got those 4 players, that would have been about £4m plus wages, still leaving millions of £s in the bank to satisfy FFP and we would have a squad capable of the playoffs or better, instead of that we have a big bank balance and a possible relegation fight on our hands.
Yes, I understand that. But how do we know that the next few signings, will not be of a standard to make us competitive. I believe they will be. As I have stated several times over the last few weeks, that it is simply ludicrous, to assume that a high level businessman like Bloom, will throw the season away, with all the implications that entails, by not signing the sort of quality needed. They may not be the proverbial "big name" signings that we might all like to have, but they will be good enough. For me, the signings of Stockdale,Hughes,The Liverpool guy are fairly good. The Dutch guy I know nothing about, but lets see if the Dutch fans are right and COG is a back up striker who is experienced. The next few signings are key and I reckon, will satisfy most, save the most critical on here. I would have liked to have had a full squad from the start and that is disappointing, but hardly a catastrophe, and I would hope that we can then catch up quickly. If come the end of the window, nothing of note has been brought in then we start to prepare for lower to mid table finish, which will be very unsatisfactory. But, it will not come to that................
..!
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: .................als o to those that are questioning the value of the training academy, stadium etc, over paying big money to get "star"players, any successful business will have historically invested in the right infrastructure to build upon. Without strong infrastructure, any business is likely to fail and a football club is a business, in a bigger way than it has ever been, whether as fans, we like it or not! In years to come, we will have a sustainable football club, that has the the ability to play at the highest level, year after year and entertain us. It's the long term we need to focus on, not "flash in the pan" success at all costs.[/p][/quote]Don't think we're looking for flash in the pan success. We are looking to stay competitive! We got £10.5m for Ulloa and Buckley, 2 players we were apparently not going to sell, so that money could be used to get the right players in, Ward, not my favourite, but should have been bought in earlier, Clayton, we should have offered £2m and grabbed him, Sharp instead of Cog, Assombalonga, another one we could have gone for, if we had got those 4 players, that would have been about £4m plus wages, still leaving millions of £s in the bank to satisfy FFP and we would have a squad capable of the playoffs or better, instead of that we have a big bank balance and a possible relegation fight on our hands.[/p][/quote]Yes, I understand that. But how do we know that the next few signings, will not be of a standard to make us competitive. I believe they will be. As I have stated several times over the last few weeks, that it is simply ludicrous, to assume that a high level businessman like Bloom, will throw the season away, with all the implications that entails, by not signing the sort of quality needed. They may not be the proverbial "big name" signings that we might all like to have, but they will be good enough. For me, the signings of Stockdale,Hughes,The Liverpool guy are fairly good. The Dutch guy I know nothing about, but lets see if the Dutch fans are right and COG is a back up striker who is experienced. The next few signings are key and I reckon, will satisfy most, save the most critical on here. I would have liked to have had a full squad from the start and that is disappointing, but hardly a catastrophe, and I would hope that we can then catch up quickly. If come the end of the window, nothing of note has been brought in then we start to prepare for lower to mid table finish, which will be very unsatisfactory. But, it will not come to that................ ..! mark5
  • Score: 5

9:45pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

To baldly go wrote:
gordongull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day!
The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site!
Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it!
Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar.
Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue!
Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble!
1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows?
Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind.
Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA
Interesting post, TBG.
I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent.
But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money.
As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.
GG, thanks for the update, didn't realise there's no fines at our level, so what does happen to teams that over spend but don't go up? Is it just a ban on transfers? Not much of a deterrent if that's the case!
If others get next to no punishment it's going to make all our efforts to meet FFP even more frustrating, we're selling our best players, bringing in freebies and substandard players while others will have got away with it.
We will have to wait and see I suppose, but it's very frustrating at the moment, I get people trying to be positive about the new guy etc, but in the cold light if day most of us know we are going to struggle with what we've got and how we are trying to play.
There will be a transfer embargo on offending clubs, TBG, which will be in force from next January, and will last until a club can demonstrate it is on track to record acceptable losses, (or profit). A club will not be permitted to sign any new players, and existing players will not be allowed to sign new contracts during this time.
A club which has a lot of quality signed on long contracts might think it is worth the risk to get promoted to the top flight.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day! The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site! Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it! Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar. Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue! Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble! 1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows? Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind. Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA[/p][/quote]Interesting post, TBG. I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent. But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money. As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.[/p][/quote]GG, thanks for the update, didn't realise there's no fines at our level, so what does happen to teams that over spend but don't go up? Is it just a ban on transfers? Not much of a deterrent if that's the case! If others get next to no punishment it's going to make all our efforts to meet FFP even more frustrating, we're selling our best players, bringing in freebies and substandard players while others will have got away with it. We will have to wait and see I suppose, but it's very frustrating at the moment, I get people trying to be positive about the new guy etc, but in the cold light if day most of us know we are going to struggle with what we've got and how we are trying to play.[/p][/quote]There will be a transfer embargo on offending clubs, TBG, which will be in force from next January, and will last until a club can demonstrate it is on track to record acceptable losses, (or profit). A club will not be permitted to sign any new players, and existing players will not be allowed to sign new contracts during this time. A club which has a lot of quality signed on long contracts might think it is worth the risk to get promoted to the top flight. gordongull
  • Score: 0

9:49pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
Definitely somebody who makes changes to their lifestyle to accommodate following their team. The main one being attending matches.
Also those who buy merchandise, and those who subscribe to services such as Seagulls Player.

Maybe I am wrong about Positive Trolls, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility.
Change there life style to accommodate there team, I'll see you at Elland road on Tuesday then Gordon, or if not sat at the Amex to watch Bolton, we could have a pint and chat, once the Bolton game comes round that will be both our 4th match out off 4 games not bad that, I'll look forward to that chat Gordon, up the Albion!!
I'm looking for where I said you are not a fan, Jeff, and I can't find it anywhere.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]Definitely somebody who makes changes to their lifestyle to accommodate following their team. The main one being attending matches. Also those who buy merchandise, and those who subscribe to services such as Seagulls Player. Maybe I am wrong about Positive Trolls, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility.[/p][/quote]Change there life style to accommodate there team, I'll see you at Elland road on Tuesday then Gordon, or if not sat at the Amex to watch Bolton, we could have a pint and chat, once the Bolton game comes round that will be both our 4th match out off 4 games not bad that, I'll look forward to that chat Gordon, up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I'm looking for where I said you are not a fan, Jeff, and I can't find it anywhere. gordongull
  • Score: -2

9:50pm Sun 17 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

bruce beckett wrote:
"As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in."


Sorry, Mike, but you're wrong. Judgement day was August 7...the day the season started and other teams began collecting points.

Do you think last year's starting XI would have lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday and away to a Birmingham team that hadn't won at home for 11 months?

We've given our rivals a six-point start, which could rise to 15 by the time the window closes.

Look at the business done during the summer by clubs like Nottingham Forest. I don't care if we sign Messi and Suarez on August 31, this transfer window has been an epic fail by the recruiting team at Brighton and Hove Albion.
If we signed Messi and Suárez I would consider that an epic fail. We are simply not going to out buy clubs that have parachute payments let alone Barcelona without severe financial consequences. If we are going to compete with them we have got to be smarter in the transfer market and have a top quality development/youth set up. The club is started on that path. Success or failure can be judged not over a couple of weeks but over months and years. Some of this short-termism is just getting ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: "As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in." Sorry, Mike, but you're wrong. Judgement day was August 7...the day the season started and other teams began collecting points. Do you think last year's starting XI would have lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday and away to a Birmingham team that hadn't won at home for 11 months? We've given our rivals a six-point start, which could rise to 15 by the time the window closes. Look at the business done during the summer by clubs like Nottingham Forest. I don't care if we sign Messi and Suarez on August 31, this transfer window has been an epic fail by the recruiting team at Brighton and Hove Albion.[/p][/quote]If we signed Messi and Suárez I would consider that an epic fail. We are simply not going to out buy clubs that have parachute payments let alone Barcelona without severe financial consequences. If we are going to compete with them we have got to be smarter in the transfer market and have a top quality development/youth set up. The club is started on that path. Success or failure can be judged not over a couple of weeks but over months and years. Some of this short-termism is just getting ridiculous. championshipgull
  • Score: 5

9:50pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

JoeBlow wrote:
I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it.

Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.
Us true football supporters want to see our team compete at the highest level against the best in the world and with some quality players of our own, yes financial stability must work alongside those dreams, but in all honesty do you see the team we are supposedly building taking us anywhere near the promised land! If you do then you can't have much knowledge of football and how you win games to get that promotion, buying players for the sake of it gets you nowhere, quality and success comes at a price, at the moment we are going for bargain basement players, where has the money from our last two sales gone, just spend half that money on quality replacements, bank the other half and we are all happy, top half of the table or better, money in the bank towards the bloody FFP, a full stadium with noisy supporters paying money, putting some of the cost of these players back into the club and so on. I don't want to be sat in a half empty stadium like we've done in the past and I doubt you do either, but in these days football is an entertainment business, at the moment we are being entertained by the equivalent of Butlins comedians while others get to enjoy the top quality ones playing to a full house. If things are that bad finance wise then we are in trouble come next season, because we will have no top names to sell to balance the books! Hope the next 2 weeks prove all us unhappy supporters wrong and the players arrive, if not, well it doesn't bare thinking about. UTA
[quote][p][bold]JoeBlow[/bold] wrote: I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it. Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.[/p][/quote]Us true football supporters want to see our team compete at the highest level against the best in the world and with some quality players of our own, yes financial stability must work alongside those dreams, but in all honesty do you see the team we are supposedly building taking us anywhere near the promised land! If you do then you can't have much knowledge of football and how you win games to get that promotion, buying players for the sake of it gets you nowhere, quality and success comes at a price, at the moment we are going for bargain basement players, where has the money from our last two sales gone, just spend half that money on quality replacements, bank the other half and we are all happy, top half of the table or better, money in the bank towards the bloody FFP, a full stadium with noisy supporters paying money, putting some of the cost of these players back into the club and so on. I don't want to be sat in a half empty stadium like we've done in the past and I doubt you do either, but in these days football is an entertainment business, at the moment we are being entertained by the equivalent of Butlins comedians while others get to enjoy the top quality ones playing to a full house. If things are that bad finance wise then we are in trouble come next season, because we will have no top names to sell to balance the books! Hope the next 2 weeks prove all us unhappy supporters wrong and the players arrive, if not, well it doesn't bare thinking about. UTA To baldly go
  • Score: 1

9:53pm Sun 17 Aug 14

tinker111 says...

stonegold wrote:
Is this a joke?
A BIG JOKE THIS CLUB IS NO CLUB FREEBEEEE BEST WE CAN DO , NOT WANTED ELSE WHERE.
[quote][p][bold]stonegold[/bold] wrote: Is this a joke?[/p][/quote]A BIG JOKE THIS CLUB IS NO CLUB FREEBEEEE BEST WE CAN DO , NOT WANTED ELSE WHERE. tinker111
  • Score: -3

9:54pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

gordongull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day!
The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site!
Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it!
Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar.
Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue!
Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble!
1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows?
Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind.
Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA
Interesting post, TBG.
I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent.
But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money.
As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.
If they don't comply with their own rules, the the Football League open themselves up to legal challenges from all those clubs who have curtailed their own business in order to meet the regulations. And if they're going to get challenged anyway...
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day! The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site! Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it! Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar. Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue! Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble! 1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows? Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind. Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA[/p][/quote]Interesting post, TBG. I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent. But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money. As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.[/p][/quote]If they don't comply with their own rules, the the Football League open themselves up to legal challenges from all those clubs who have curtailed their own business in order to meet the regulations. And if they're going to get challenged anyway... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

10:09pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day!
The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site!
Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it!
Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar.
Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue!
Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble!
1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows?
Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind.
Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA
Interesting post, TBG.
I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent.
But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money.
As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.
If they don't comply with their own rules, the the Football League open themselves up to legal challenges from all those clubs who have curtailed their own business in order to meet the regulations. And if they're going to get challenged anyway...
Do you think clubs like B&HA would mount a legal challenge against the Football League, if the League failed to collect the fines, EPA?
It is possible, but I don't believe it is likely.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day! The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site! Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it! Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar. Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue! Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble! 1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows? Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind. Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA[/p][/quote]Interesting post, TBG. I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent. But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money. As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.[/p][/quote]If they don't comply with their own rules, the the Football League open themselves up to legal challenges from all those clubs who have curtailed their own business in order to meet the regulations. And if they're going to get challenged anyway...[/p][/quote]Do you think clubs like B&HA would mount a legal challenge against the Football League, if the League failed to collect the fines, EPA? It is possible, but I don't believe it is likely. gordongull
  • Score: 1

10:14pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day!
The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site!
Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it!
Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar.
Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue!
Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble!
1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows?
Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind.
Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA
Interesting post, TBG.
I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent.
But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money.
As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.
If they don't comply with their own rules, the the Football League open themselves up to legal challenges from all those clubs who have curtailed their own business in order to meet the regulations. And if they're going to get challenged anyway...
Legal challenges from both sides is my guess EPA, GG. Some will plead ignorance and bury their heads in the sand, others will use accountants to move money around hoping to hide certain payments and the likes of us playing it buy the book will suffer by having a lower level of player imo. I know teams have signed up to the rules etc, but the lure of the riches in the prem makes it tempting to cheat the rules, we will have to wait and see I suppose!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day! The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site! Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it! Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar. Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue! Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble! 1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows? Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind. Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA[/p][/quote]Interesting post, TBG. I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent. But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money. As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.[/p][/quote]If they don't comply with their own rules, the the Football League open themselves up to legal challenges from all those clubs who have curtailed their own business in order to meet the regulations. And if they're going to get challenged anyway...[/p][/quote]Legal challenges from both sides is my guess EPA, GG. Some will plead ignorance and bury their heads in the sand, others will use accountants to move money around hoping to hide certain payments and the likes of us playing it buy the book will suffer by having a lower level of player imo. I know teams have signed up to the rules etc, but the lure of the riches in the prem makes it tempting to cheat the rules, we will have to wait and see I suppose! To baldly go
  • Score: 2

10:17pm Sun 17 Aug 14

ringtone says...

JoeBlow wrote:
I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it.

Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.
We aint spending enough.

Southampton have spent approx half of the 90 million they have received in transfer fees and we have spent 1.5 million out of approx 10 million, you do the Math.
[quote][p][bold]JoeBlow[/bold] wrote: I'm intrigued why some of you bother to call yourself football supporters. Obviously in all your years as "football supporters" you have no idea how things are done. Quit moaning and get behind the team. I, for one, am glad that when they see a chance to improve the squad they take it, even if you folks don't understand it. Hint: signing a midfielder doesn't mean they aren't trying their very best to fill the other positions. We would love a goalscorer - but guess what, so would a lot of other teams. Some can pay more than we can. I'd rather be secure financially than gamble on our future for short term gain.[/p][/quote]We aint spending enough. Southampton have spent approx half of the 90 million they have received in transfer fees and we have spent 1.5 million out of approx 10 million, you do the Math. ringtone
  • Score: 0

10:17pm Sun 17 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day!
The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site!
Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it!
Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar.
Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue!
Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble!
1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows?
Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind.
Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA
Interesting post, TBG.
I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent.
But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money.
As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.
If they don't comply with their own rules, the the Football League open themselves up to legal challenges from all those clubs who have curtailed their own business in order to meet the regulations. And if they're going to get challenged anyway...
Do you think clubs like B&HA would mount a legal challenge against the Football League, if the League failed to collect the fines, EPA?
It is possible, but I don't believe it is likely.
I think the way the management have handled themselves with Poyet etc a legal challenge would be a cert imo. Everything to the letter of the law! Let's hope it doesn't come to that though, we have enough drain on resources as it us!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]Perhaps EPA, Jeff, ballantrrae and yourself are wums/trolls, and I'll even admit to the odd wind up, but, at the end of the day it's only our individual opinions on each other, and most on here do want the best for the club at the end of the day! The biggest issue at the moment is we are being fed one story from the 3 B's, such as, players will be here before start of season, players will be here before the window closes, we will have a squad capable of fighting for promotion, I think the fans will be pleased with the squad before the window closes, all the above quotes are from the horses mouths and available on the seagulls site! Well, let's all be honest, it's not happening is it! Bloom, no one can thank him enough for what we have, and his money invested is safe imo, bricks and mortar. Looking back, Barbers arrival was the beginning of this downfall, business wise, he is very good and TB is happy with that side of the club, but fail to invest in the product you are selling and it could all come unravelled very quickly, Poyet and Oscar could see what was going to happen and got out ASAP. Burke has probably been told what's available to spend and is having to stick to that, again to TB's liking. Players leaving, it happens all the time, but you replace them, but at the moment we are not, and that's the issue! Football is like the mobile phone industry in a way, every few months there is another model out and the competition need to keep up to remain competitive, on this occasion we have missed the boat imo. However! If, and it's a big if, come December and the results of the dreaded FFP are revealed and we have got it right and others get fines and/or transfer embargoes, we could be in the front seat come the January TF window. Will January be to late? The way things are going it could be! If the fines etc are not put into effect and the whole FFP thing is blown out of the water, where does that leave us? Up the creek with no paddle (team) to get us out of trouble! 1 or 2 quality players coming now before the window closes will not be enough imo, the damage is already done, but it might just be enough to keep our heads above water until January, then, who knows? Is Hyppia the man to take us forward? On what I have witnessed first hand against Posh, Saints and Wednesday, and the other pre season games on youtube, it's a big NO from me, tactics are woeful, and the style of play he is after we don't have the players capable of playing it, square pegs and round holes come to mind. Not a doom and gloom merchant, just my realistic take on where we are at the moment, i will still be there week in week out cheering the lads on but it's going to be a frustrating long season imo. UTA[/p][/quote]Interesting post, TBG. I'm not sure if you realise it, but there are no fines below Premier League level. They only apply to promoted clubs who have overspent. But the Premier League will not help the Football League to collect the fines. This means that the Football League will be required to send QPR and possibly Leicester a bill and hope they pay up. QPR Owner Tony Fernandes has said he will fight it, as you would expect to if you were hit with a bill for over £30m. This leaves the Football League with two options. Either a costly legal battle, or forget about collecting the money. As the money is only going to charity anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens when the League's resolve is tested.[/p][/quote]If they don't comply with their own rules, the the Football League open themselves up to legal challenges from all those clubs who have curtailed their own business in order to meet the regulations. And if they're going to get challenged anyway...[/p][/quote]Do you think clubs like B&HA would mount a legal challenge against the Football League, if the League failed to collect the fines, EPA? It is possible, but I don't believe it is likely.[/p][/quote]I think the way the management have handled themselves with Poyet etc a legal challenge would be a cert imo. Everything to the letter of the law! Let's hope it doesn't come to that though, we have enough drain on resources as it us! To baldly go
  • Score: 1

10:23pm Sun 17 Aug 14

gordongull says...

championshipgull wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
"As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in."


Sorry, Mike, but you're wrong. Judgement day was August 7...the day the season started and other teams began collecting points.

Do you think last year's starting XI would have lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday and away to a Birmingham team that hadn't won at home for 11 months?

We've given our rivals a six-point start, which could rise to 15 by the time the window closes.

Look at the business done during the summer by clubs like Nottingham Forest. I don't care if we sign Messi and Suarez on August 31, this transfer window has been an epic fail by the recruiting team at Brighton and Hove Albion.
If we signed Messi and Suárez I would consider that an epic fail. We are simply not going to out buy clubs that have parachute payments let alone Barcelona without severe financial consequences. If we are going to compete with them we have got to be smarter in the transfer market and have a top quality development/youth set up. The club is started on that path. Success or failure can be judged not over a couple of weeks but over months and years. Some of this short-termism is just getting ridiculous.
You make some valid points about short-termism Championshipgull, and your comment about being smarter than the parachute clubs in the transfer market is of particular importance.
The problem as I and many others see it, is that the Director of Football Operations is not smarter than the parachute clubs, and is in fact a liability to putting together a squad which can make a realistic challenge.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: "As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in." Sorry, Mike, but you're wrong. Judgement day was August 7...the day the season started and other teams began collecting points. Do you think last year's starting XI would have lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday and away to a Birmingham team that hadn't won at home for 11 months? We've given our rivals a six-point start, which could rise to 15 by the time the window closes. Look at the business done during the summer by clubs like Nottingham Forest. I don't care if we sign Messi and Suarez on August 31, this transfer window has been an epic fail by the recruiting team at Brighton and Hove Albion.[/p][/quote]If we signed Messi and Suárez I would consider that an epic fail. We are simply not going to out buy clubs that have parachute payments let alone Barcelona without severe financial consequences. If we are going to compete with them we have got to be smarter in the transfer market and have a top quality development/youth set up. The club is started on that path. Success or failure can be judged not over a couple of weeks but over months and years. Some of this short-termism is just getting ridiculous.[/p][/quote]You make some valid points about short-termism Championshipgull, and your comment about being smarter than the parachute clubs in the transfer market is of particular importance. The problem as I and many others see it, is that the Director of Football Operations is not smarter than the parachute clubs, and is in fact a liability to putting together a squad which can make a realistic challenge. gordongull
  • Score: 0

10:24pm Sun 17 Aug 14

OldGull says...

Like many, I have disappointed with the delay in signing new players

But in the last 2 days we have made what I believe are 2 good signings.
Some people may understandably have some reservations about the 2 players.
I can accept reasoned discussion as to why they may not be want you want.

What I cannot abide, is the numerous so called supporters who choose to slag off the players without even having the intelligence to look at their history or potential. Go and look on Youtube, you may be pleasantly surprised.
There really has been a proliferation of Trolls in the last few days.
I would hope that the several dissaffected but genuine Albion supporters on this site would disassociate themselves from this new breed of poster.
Guess what? I will be 100% behind the team on tuesday night.
THAT is what being a football supporter is all about.

If you cannot do that , I suggest you GO FORTH
UTA
Like many, I have disappointed with the delay in signing new players But in the last 2 days we have made what I believe are 2 good signings. Some people may understandably have some reservations about the 2 players. I can accept reasoned discussion as to why they may not be want you want. What I cannot abide, is the numerous so called supporters who choose to slag off the players without even having the intelligence to look at their history or potential. Go and look on Youtube, you may be pleasantly surprised. There really has been a proliferation of Trolls in the last few days. I would hope that the several dissaffected but genuine Albion supporters on this site would disassociate themselves from this new breed of poster. Guess what? I will be 100% behind the team on tuesday night. THAT is what being a football supporter is all about. If you cannot do that , I suggest you GO FORTH UTA OldGull
  • Score: 7

10:48pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Gazza by the sea says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
Another free signing without a club, bet he can't play centre forward. Think we need to get our priorities right. No goals so far and an over abundance of midfield players to choose from.
Anyone at Birmingham yesterday will know that we need midfielders.....
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: Another free signing without a club, bet he can't play centre forward. Think we need to get our priorities right. No goals so far and an over abundance of midfield players to choose from.[/p][/quote]Anyone at Birmingham yesterday will know that we need midfielders..... Gazza by the sea
  • Score: 2

11:24pm Sun 17 Aug 14

ringtone says...

OldGull wrote:
Like many, I have disappointed with the delay in signing new players

But in the last 2 days we have made what I believe are 2 good signings.
Some people may understandably have some reservations about the 2 players.
I can accept reasoned discussion as to why they may not be want you want.

What I cannot abide, is the numerous so called supporters who choose to slag off the players without even having the intelligence to look at their history or potential. Go and look on Youtube, you may be pleasantly surprised.
There really has been a proliferation of Trolls in the last few days.
I would hope that the several dissaffected but genuine Albion supporters on this site would disassociate themselves from this new breed of poster.
Guess what? I will be 100% behind the team on tuesday night.
THAT is what being a football supporter is all about.

If you cannot do that , I suggest you GO FORTH
UTA
Charming, you can only guess at the bile oldgull directs to opposition fans if this is how he treats his fellow supporters.#thug
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: Like many, I have disappointed with the delay in signing new players But in the last 2 days we have made what I believe are 2 good signings. Some people may understandably have some reservations about the 2 players. I can accept reasoned discussion as to why they may not be want you want. What I cannot abide, is the numerous so called supporters who choose to slag off the players without even having the intelligence to look at their history or potential. Go and look on Youtube, you may be pleasantly surprised. There really has been a proliferation of Trolls in the last few days. I would hope that the several dissaffected but genuine Albion supporters on this site would disassociate themselves from this new breed of poster. Guess what? I will be 100% behind the team on tuesday night. THAT is what being a football supporter is all about. If you cannot do that , I suggest you GO FORTH UTA[/p][/quote]Charming, you can only guess at the bile oldgull directs to opposition fans if this is how he treats his fellow supporters.#thug ringtone
  • Score: -4

11:53pm Sun 17 Aug 14

tug509 says...

So after 190 posts , are we agreed we need new signings of class NOW , or are we going to keep talking sh1t to defend a bad system ?.
So after 190 posts , are we agreed we need new signings of class NOW , or are we going to keep talking sh1t to defend a bad system ?. tug509
  • Score: 4

5:47am Mon 18 Aug 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon.
To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.
I couldn't agree more, Vegas.

If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down!

The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it.

But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy.
I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up.

Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.
I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!!
'Know' not 'no'
Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.
It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.
Haha thanks for enlightening me on that one Mr Brittas! But as you've decided to take your affections elsewhere, I wonder why you're bothered with us still? No, I suspect you didn't go to see Eastbourne either. In fact I wonder if you ever really watch football at all?
Enjoyed a thoroughly enlightening afternoon at Eastbourne along with other disgruntled seagull suoporters. I'm quite sure I get to more games than you rather than criticise from afar thank you.
Well if there was some way of verifying that I'd happily take that wager. Perhaps you could start by telling us all more about the Eastbourne match. What was their strategy and formation? Did they adapt it during the game? Who was good? Who was bad? Who was indifferent? How was the catering? Where did you sit/stand? Who kicked of each half and which end were they attacking? But think carefully before spouting your usual rubbish as I know the club secretary very well and he will soon tell me if what you say is a figment of your imagination or a version of the local rag's write-up.

Basically, I guess it's as easy for me to comment from here as it is for you to do the same from Mayfield.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Jeff we read what we want into the comments of others, in my, 'own,' opinion Tug is a fan, that's my take on his posted comments. In the way I don't consider 'freeloader,' or what ever name he chooses to use, a fan of Brighton, he takes pleasure in out down side because it affords him the chance to spew his hatred of certain players. I could be wrong about both of the names I mention, but as I said, it's just my opinon. To my way of thinking Ballantrrea is a fan of Brighton, but like Tug he is not shy of speaking his mind.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more, Vegas. If Tug isn't a fan they might as well close the forum down! The Bosch (by any other name) has only one agenda, and he is trying to beat us into submission with it. But there seems to be a phenomena called a Positive Troll. Apparently they get a buzz out of being complimentary to the point where it becomes annoying or even creepy. I suppose that considering the number of negative Trolls and Wind-Up-Merchants, it is natures way of balancing things up. Btw, I know you have a tendency for optimism, Vegas, but I am in no way including you.[/p][/quote]I would love to no your definition off a genuine fan is then Gordon!![/p][/quote]'Know' not 'no'[/p][/quote]Thought you'd be contributing to the Eastbourne Gazette now that you've abandoned the Albion.[/p][/quote]It's called making a statement to the suits and believe me plenty are doing it and have been for a season or 2 now.[/p][/quote]Haha thanks for enlightening me on that one Mr Brittas! But as you've decided to take your affections elsewhere, I wonder why you're bothered with us still? No, I suspect you didn't go to see Eastbourne either. In fact I wonder if you ever really watch football at all?[/p][/quote]Enjoyed a thoroughly enlightening afternoon at Eastbourne along with other disgruntled seagull suoporters. I'm quite sure I get to more games than you rather than criticise from afar thank you.[/p][/quote]Well if there was some way of verifying that I'd happily take that wager. Perhaps you could start by telling us all more about the Eastbourne match. What was their strategy and formation? Did they adapt it during the game? Who was good? Who was bad? Who was indifferent? How was the catering? Where did you sit/stand? Who kicked of each half and which end were they attacking? But think carefully before spouting your usual rubbish as I know the club secretary very well and he will soon tell me if what you say is a figment of your imagination or a version of the local rag's write-up. Basically, I guess it's as easy for me to comment from here as it is for you to do the same from Mayfield. Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 3

8:14am Mon 18 Aug 14

OldGull says...

One question Ringtone.
As our resident Troll (who occasionally puts in an amusing & intelligent post), How do you feel about the sudden influx of trolls on this site during the last week?
One question Ringtone. As our resident Troll (who occasionally puts in an amusing & intelligent post), How do you feel about the sudden influx of trolls on this site during the last week? OldGull
  • Score: 3

8:44am Mon 18 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

gordongull wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
"As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in."


Sorry, Mike, but you're wrong. Judgement day was August 7...the day the season started and other teams began collecting points.

Do you think last year's starting XI would have lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday and away to a Birmingham team that hadn't won at home for 11 months?

We've given our rivals a six-point start, which could rise to 15 by the time the window closes.

Look at the business done during the summer by clubs like Nottingham Forest. I don't care if we sign Messi and Suarez on August 31, this transfer window has been an epic fail by the recruiting team at Brighton and Hove Albion.
If we signed Messi and Suárez I would consider that an epic fail. We are simply not going to out buy clubs that have parachute payments let alone Barcelona without severe financial consequences. If we are going to compete with them we have got to be smarter in the transfer market and have a top quality development/youth set up. The club is started on that path. Success or failure can be judged not over a couple of weeks but over months and years. Some of this short-termism is just getting ridiculous.
You make some valid points about short-termism Championshipgull, and your comment about being smarter than the parachute clubs in the transfer market is of particular importance.
The problem as I and many others see it, is that the Director of Football Operations is not smarter than the parachute clubs, and is in fact a liability to putting together a squad which can make a realistic challenge.
Not in your camp on this one yet, I am with many others in the wait and see, still time for him to pull it out the bag, he's getting there camp. God help the, I’m never going to be happy camp of idiots and trolls,
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: "As has been said on here by more than one poster---do not judge the Team or those that run the Club until the window closes--or even once any new players have bedded in." Sorry, Mike, but you're wrong. Judgement day was August 7...the day the season started and other teams began collecting points. Do you think last year's starting XI would have lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday and away to a Birmingham team that hadn't won at home for 11 months? We've given our rivals a six-point start, which could rise to 15 by the time the window closes. Look at the business done during the summer by clubs like Nottingham Forest. I don't care if we sign Messi and Suarez on August 31, this transfer window has been an epic fail by the recruiting team at Brighton and Hove Albion.[/p][/quote]If we signed Messi and Suárez I would consider that an epic fail. We are simply not going to out buy clubs that have parachute payments let alone Barcelona without severe financial consequences. If we are going to compete with them we have got to be smarter in the transfer market and have a top quality development/youth set up. The club is started on that path. Success or failure can be judged not over a couple of weeks but over months and years. Some of this short-termism is just getting ridiculous.[/p][/quote]You make some valid points about short-termism Championshipgull, and your comment about being smarter than the parachute clubs in the transfer market is of particular importance. The problem as I and many others see it, is that the Director of Football Operations is not smarter than the parachute clubs, and is in fact a liability to putting together a squad which can make a realistic challenge.[/p][/quote]Not in your camp on this one yet, I am with many others in the wait and see, still time for him to pull it out the bag, he's getting there camp. God help the, I’m never going to be happy camp of idiots and trolls, championshipgull
  • Score: 0

8:20pm Tue 19 Aug 14

JoeBlow says...

There are quite a few posters on this thread who are looking pretty stupid given how well Holla seems to be playing at Leeds. He doesn't sound unfit to me!
There are quite a few posters on this thread who are looking pretty stupid given how well Holla seems to be playing at Leeds. He doesn't sound unfit to me! JoeBlow
  • Score: 1

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