Poyet rues missed chances (From The Argus)

I see Dickinson played a full game again and got the winning goal for Peterborough. We can't get a goal and we give away a player who can in a higher league. What's that all about?!

i would like to see nicky forster start...with murray aswell.........4.4..
...2..for me.lua lua exellent today my man of the match anyway

I certainly think that with a fairly defensively minded team like Brentford due here next, there is a case for a more positive look to the line-up rather than the 4-5-1 that may well lend itself to counter-attacking away but results in a lack of real concerted pressure on the opponents goal at home (as this repeated failure to score at Withdean isn't purely bad luck). Could it be that the unconvincing performances of the likes of El-Abd, Navarro and even Bennett today may have opened the door for others to get an opportunity on Tuesday ?

Once again Poyet's tactical nouse and man management skills- the Forster saga plainly rumbles on - are called into question.
We need a quality forward who can score 20-25 goals a season. Murray is a 10-15 man - not good enough. Sir Nicky is plainly near the end of his time at the club and Holroyd is a lightweight who will not make the grade at this level. Leave Dickinson and Davies where they are, they do not have the required quality.

we didnt put away our chances which were few... Well the good news is adam virgs is back tue, sorry to say cos he has played well in recent weeks.... but el-abd made two mistakes in game , and one of them cost us,..and i agree foz should have come on sooner, so the quicker that little spat ends the better, come on gus.. there are two sides to management so dont take it to extremes... you won ... NOW WE NEED TO....

fretlessbass wrote:
Once again Poyet's tactical nouse and man management skills- the Forster saga plainly rumbles on - are called into question.
We need a quality forward who can score 20-25 goals a season. Murray is a 10-15 man - not good enough. Sir Nicky is plainly near the end of his time at the club and Holroyd is a lightweight who will not make the grade at this level. Leave Dickinson and Davies where they are, they do not have the required quality.

Have a day off!!

Poyet said: “It was a typical game where whoever scored the goal was going to win it. There were not going to be too many goals in the game." So GP keeps a proven goalscorer at this level on the bench until Swindon take the lead. Can't help thinking this spat with Forster isn't over. Charlton fans were moaning yesterday that their lack of a decent finisher could cost them automatic promotion. There, you have it Gus. Loan Forster to Charlton , one of the few clubs that could afford all his wages. He'll get more regular football, and one less player on the payroll. Or get over it.

Navarro has another apalling game but still gets picked. McNulty is on the bench while we pay for Swansea's third choice left back to pass the ball to the other team. Why are we playing an away formation at home? Why does a kid who hasn't scored a goal come on in front of our leading scorer?

fretlessbass wrote:
Once again Poyet's tactical nouse and man management skills- the Forster saga plainly rumbles on - are called into question. We need a quality forward who can score 20-25 goals a season. Murray is a 10-15 man - not good enough. Sir Nicky is plainly near the end of his time at the club and Holroyd is a lightweight who will not make the grade at this level. Leave Dickinson and Davies where they are, they do not have the required quality.

agreed, we are going to be fine this season, but we wont get out of this league without a 20 goal plus player, holroyd for me has not made the keeper work in any or his games.. murray 11 months , hart none in three years, holroyd does not look like scoring.. elabd again shows why i dont rate him

Holroyd is not up for it, I cant ever see him hitting the net. On tuesday Poyet must play 4-4-2 with Forster starting.

It is amazing how you pathetic moaners come out of the woodwork in an instant. Just have a bit of patience for god sake, you cannot put a team together mid season and quite frankly, in your eyes, he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. "The biggest experts in football are the biggest moaners"

seagullbazil wrote:
It is amazing how you pathetic moaners come out of the woodwork in an instant. Just have a bit of patience for god sake, you cannot put a team together mid season and quite frankly, in your eyes, he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. "The biggest experts in football are the biggest moaners"

i agree, some one here would think we are the real deal, its a job in progress, gus will have a big money for quality players this summer.. but the forward line is not firing.. facts are murray 11 months at home, holroyd 0, forster not playing, and hart who has not scored for 3 years, all 4 players are similar.. do we need a big number 9? we are not putting enough chances away, thats across the team, colchester is a perfect example.. the football is there, but the side is still 4 -5 players off being top three.. one question is will gus drop our best defender for virgo?

seagullbazil wrote:
It is amazing how you pathetic moaners come out of the woodwork in an instant. Just have a bit of patience for god sake, you cannot put a team together mid season and quite frankly, in your eyes, he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. "The biggest experts in football are the biggest moaners"

Agree, it is totally tiresome the constant sniping from certain posters whenever we lose a game. Tactically 4-5-1 has totally suited the team in the last few weeks (home and away) and against a top 6 team it was certainly worth perservering with (Swindon are not 25 points ahead of us for no reason). It was overall a good performance yesterday - excellent first half followed by fairly average second half (when we still created at least two good chances). Since the game I had read on this website criticism of Calderon (who as Poyet said was outstanding), Painter (continuing to demonstrate to the previous occupants what being a left back is all about) and Murray (who seems to go from hero to villain and back again week by week depending on whether he has scored a goal or not). The whole squad is in transition and there will be an awful lot of change in the summer. Further criticism of Poyet's "tactical nous" is frankly absurd - if he (or somebody of equivalent stature) had not arrived at the club we would still have been shipping 3 or 4 goals every week and would still be in the bottom 4. He has made best use of what he has at the club and added players when able to to fill the real weaknesses at the club - i.e. both full back positions and left wing. What he tried yesterday in terms of the substitutions didn't really work but that's the way it goes. You cannot criticise him for not trying something different. I suppose on Tuesday we will have a nice solid home win and the number of posts will suddenly reduce by half. You do get the impression some people on here want us to lose games as it gives them something to moan about.

fretlessbass wrote:
Once again Poyet's tactical nouse and man management skills- the Forster saga plainly rumbles on - are called into question.
We need a quality forward who can score 20-25 goals a season. Murray is a 10-15 man - not good enough. Sir Nicky is plainly near the end of his time at the club and Holroyd is a lightweight who will not make the grade at this level. Leave Dickinson and Davies where they are, they do not have the required quality.

fretlessbass-at least Dickinson scored? I would love GP to pick Nicky F on Tuesday night with Murray & see him score but it isn,t going to happen, is it? As for yesterday it's the dreaded Withdean again, no bl**dy atmosphere, no noise, no nothing.
Holroyd is one for the future, you cant just write him off after a few sub games, be fair. As for Gus, if he wasn't with BHA we would be down with Stockport & Wycombe by now......

I'm still surprised by the preference of Holroyd to Forster when substituting. Holroyd is one for the future, yes......but for the present??? With regards to Virgo, His form has improved because GP plays him in his best position CB, nowhere else. Shame he got the sending-off when consistently performing well there.

wiltshire seagull wrote:

fretlessbass wrote: Once again Poyet's tactical nouse and man management skills- the Forster saga plainly rumbles on - are called into question. We need a quality forward who can score 20-25 goals a season. Murray is a 10-15 man - not good enough. Sir Nicky is plainly near the end of his time at the club and Holroyd is a lightweight who will not make the grade at this level. Leave Dickinson and Davies where they are, they do not have the required quality.

fretlessbass-at least Dickinson scored? I would love GP to pick Nicky F on Tuesday night with Murray & see him score but it isn,t going to happen, is it? As for yesterday it's the dreaded Withdean again, no bl**dy atmosphere, no noise, no nothing. Holroyd is one for the future, you cant just write him off after a few sub games, be fair. As for Gus, if he wasn't with BHA we would be down with Stockport & Wycombe by now......

Agree with every word!
I managed to see the game yesterday, and I must admit that the Withdean crowd had as much life as a funeral.
The same description could be applied to this website of late. Where have all the posters gone? The intelligent and informative contributions that appeared regularly, until very recently, are conspicuous by their absence.
Have all the moaners finally driven away the few who make this site worthwhile?
Brighton will win on Tuesday night!

PittaPatta wrote:

wiltshire seagull wrote:

fretlessbass wrote: Once again Poyet's tactical nouse and man management skills- the Forster saga plainly rumbles on - are called into question. We need a quality forward who can score 20-25 goals a season. Murray is a 10-15 man - not good enough. Sir Nicky is plainly near the end of his time at the club and Holroyd is a lightweight who will not make the grade at this level. Leave Dickinson and Davies where they are, they do not have the required quality.

fretlessbass-at least Dickinson scored? I would love GP to pick Nicky F on Tuesday night with Murray & see him score but it isn,t going to happen, is it? As for yesterday it's the dreaded Withdean again, no bl**dy atmosphere, no noise, no nothing. Holroyd is one for the future, you cant just write him off after a few sub games, be fair. As for Gus, if he wasn't with BHA we would be down with Stockport & Wycombe by now......

Agree with every word! I managed to see the game yesterday, and I must admit that the Withdean crowd had as much life as a funeral. The same description could be applied to this website of late. Where have all the posters gone? The intelligent and informative contributions that appeared regularly, until very recently, are conspicuous by their absence. Have all the moaners finally driven away the few who make this site worthwhile? Brighton will win on Tuesday night!

as someone who works at the shop in queens road put it to me the other week," at withdean we have spectators, away we have fans" gus is building a squad and trying to stay in this division... he will clear the dross in the summer, then we will hear again people saying keep coxy.. like we had last year with fraser and robinson.. its funny this site is open 24-7.. how odd none of you moaners never spoke out about gus not having a clue on picking the right side! lol gus will get rid of half the squad.. more if he had the chance and bring in some decent players.. progress is clearly there, had we had a bit of luck we would have taken a goal lead.. then its a different game.. tuesday put some effort into supporting the side, than rushing home to rubbish the team on here!

I seem to recall that The Albion fans 'won' some sort of national sports survey that said they were the quietest crowd.....and that was, I am sure in the early 80's.
Remind me where we were then, both ground and division.

Come on you Withdean supporters, pretend there is a roof to raise on Tuesday evening!

Surely sites such as these are forums for people to air their views, praising or critical, as long as it's kept civil. If you come on and point out that the team are failing to provide goals and excitement at home (which is what football is surely all about, hence why Ward, Nelson and Zamora are feted at the Albion), and that player X or Y had a poor match, then you're labelled a moaner. Ease up and let people air their opinion, then voice yours, but try and do it without slating anyone who makes the effort to write something on here ! After all, it seems like most people
who contribute do have a genuine interest and support for the Albion (or they wouldn't be reading sites like this in the first place) !!

Murray has 12 from 20 starts and six substitute appearances so far this season. 12 from 22 and 5 substitute appearances last season.
A bit better than a goal every other game, about right to hit 20+ a season, if he can stay fit.

If you take into consideration that for most of last season he didn't want to be here, played more than a few games in need of a hernia op and the team around him was severely underperforming then I think, on goals, he is definitely worth his salt.

Baldseagull wrote:
Murray has 12 from 20 starts and six substitute appearances so far this season. 12 from 22 and 5 substitute appearances last season. A bit better than a goal every other game, about right to hit 20+ a season, if he can stay fit. If you take into consideration that for most of last season he didn't want to be here, played more than a few games in need of a hernia op and the team around him was severely underperforming then I think, on goals, he is definitely worth his salt.

yes he is the best player for the system we have been playing, bit worried if he gets injured or decides to catch a ball! lol . i hear cox is training with the youth! been put out for sulking.. silly boy, grass is never greener.. ask your mate jakey!

wiltshire seagull wrote:

fretlessbass wrote: Once again Poyet's tactical nouse and man management skills- the Forster saga plainly rumbles on - are called into question. We need a quality forward who can score 20-25 goals a season. Murray is a 10-15 man - not good enough. Sir Nicky is plainly near the end of his time at the club and Holroyd is a lightweight who will not make the grade at this level. Leave Dickinson and Davies where they are, they do not have the required quality.

fretlessbass-at least Dickinson scored? I would love GP to pick Nicky F on Tuesday night with Murray & see him score but it isn,t going to happen, is it? As for yesterday it's the dreaded Withdean again, no bl**dy atmosphere, no noise, no nothing. Holroyd is one for the future, you cant just write him off after a few sub games, be fair. As for Gus, if he wasn't with BHA we would be down with Stockport & Wycombe by now......

Why the dreaded withdean?

If it was't for the Withdean fans might still be driving 50 odd miles each way to Gillingham, or worse not having a club to support.

When we first arrived at Withdean it was labbelled a fortress, we were practically unbeatable there.

I'm looking forward to Falmer but I do wish people would stop being so ungreatful that we still have the chance to watch the Albion play their football.

We should be able to win anywhere, and Gus's task next season is to win promotion. Therefore the board and Gus must feel that winning at the Withdean is a possibility unless he intedns to win the league with away form alone

Virgo, Mcnulty and Forster to start at least. Could someone take a drum along to generate some atmosphere????? Let's go for it and not waste the chances for once!!!!!!!!!

Tuesday take the team for a trip round the M25.Take them to a hotel. Discuss tactics over a light meal. Get to Withdean an hour before kick-off. Decorate the inside of the dressing with away team signs. No problem with the kit either, Brentford play in red+white, so we'd be in blue+white anyway. When they walk out there'll be 7,000 away fans cheering them on. C'mon you Seagulls.

Why dont we go for full out attacking football and play a 3-5-2 with Murray and Forster up front. We might let a few in but should score more. Would get the crowds back and more excited so more noise is made

Perkino wrote:

wiltshire seagull wrote:

fretlessbass wrote: Once again Poyet's tactical nouse and man management skills- the Forster saga plainly rumbles on - are called into question. We need a quality forward who can score 20-25 goals a season. Murray is a 10-15 man - not good enough. Sir Nicky is plainly near the end of his time at the club and Holroyd is a lightweight who will not make the grade at this level. Leave Dickinson and Davies where they are, they do not have the required quality.

fretlessbass-at least Dickinson scored? I would love GP to pick Nicky F on Tuesday night with Murray & see him score but it isn,t going to happen, is it? As for yesterday it's the dreaded Withdean again, no bl**dy atmosphere, no noise, no nothing. Holroyd is one for the future, you cant just write him off after a few sub games, be fair. As for Gus, if he wasn't with BHA we would be down with Stockport & Wycombe by now......

Why the dreaded withdean? If it was't for the Withdean fans might still be driving 50 odd miles each way to Gillingham, or worse not having a club to support. When we first arrived at Withdean it was labbelled a fortress, we were practically unbeatable there. I'm looking forward to Falmer but I do wish people would stop being so ungreatful that we still have the chance to watch the Albion play their football. We should be able to win anywhere, and Gus's task next season is to win promotion. Therefore the board and Gus must feel that winning at the Withdean is a possibility unless he intedns to win the league with away form alone

Fair points, Perkino! We used to make a fair noise when Bobby Z was banging them in, didn't we? Mea Culpa.......