LuaLua strikes but Albion are hammered (From The Argus)

hawksterone wrote:
seagulls were put in their place, end of story, i love Brighton but they will never be up there with the big boys ,,, end of story

hawksterone wrote:
seagulls were put in their place, end of story, i love Brighton but they will never be up there with the big boys ,,, end of story

cullipmyhero wrote:
All comments above are a joke. Andy Naylor on twitter is a joke, loves to rub it in.. Yes, we lost, heavily, so what.. I can not wait to hear all the doom mongers out in force now, we scored 3 unfortunate own goals and got out played by a top, top team.
Onwards and upwards, league is all to play for...
Any Albion fan will feel raw right now, but it will be all the idiots out to call the blame and cry foul...

3 points at Hull midweek, keep the faith

Nathan L wrote:
embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

gordongull wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote: All comments above are a joke. Andy Naylor on twitter is a joke, loves to rub it in.. Yes, we lost, heavily, so what.. I can not wait to hear all the doom mongers out in force now, we scored 3 unfortunate own goals and got out played by a top, top team. Onwards and upwards, league is all to play for... Any Albion fan will feel raw right now, but it will be all the idiots out to call the blame and cry foul... 3 points at Hull midweek, keep the faith

Why is my comment a joke?

Chip of Goring wrote:
Howling errors by Brezovan were why we lost 6-1. We would have lost without them but by only 2-1. The own goals were really down to him as well. And I ask again.? What did Barnes do?

WiseOldSeagull wrote:
OK lets get a little bit of perspective on the game. I'll start by introducing myself properly on the site. Born and raised in Brighton and saw my first game at the Goldstone back in the 80's when we lost 2-0 against a Southampton side with Peter Shilton in goal. Got my piece of the Goldstone turf and the back of a seat in 1997 etc. Since 2000 I've followed the Albion from Australia, America and now Sweden. I am a season ticket holder and still get back for half of the home games every year.

Tonight I watched on the telly from Sweden and saw a very good passing side who keep the ball quite well and obviously believe in the way we play and all of the coaching staffs philosophy. Unfortunately two things were at fault on the night.

We do not have the ability of the Liverpool players even although the passing philosophy is the right one. Carrol l in monetary terms is arguably worth our entire squad. 2ndly although adding Vicente and Noone was the right call, taking off El-Abd was a tactical error. This decision led to players being forced into a formation they have never faced before or (hopefully) will again. Playing 3 at the back caused chaos in defence and ultimately the leakage that followed.

The conclusion is that we play the right way, do not have the quality of the premier league and sometimes make tactical errors. Tonight all 3 of those weaknesses were exposed.

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote:
embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

Why pick on Bridcutt you Palace muppet

Chip of Goring wrote:
Howling errors by Brezovan were why we lost 6-1. We would have lost without them but by only 2-1. The own goals were really down to him as well. And I ask again.? What did Barnes do?

WiseOldSeagull wrote:
OK lets get a little bit of perspective on the game. I'll start by introducing myself properly on the site. Born and raised in Brighton and saw my first game at the Goldstone back in the 80's when we lost 2-0 against a Southampton side with Peter Shilton in goal. Got my piece of the Goldstone turf and the back of a seat in 1997 etc. Since 2000 I've followed the Albion from Australia, America and now Sweden. I am a season ticket holder and still get back for half of the home games every year. Tonight I watched on the telly from Sweden and saw a very good passing side who keep the ball quite well and obviously believe in the way we play and all of the coaching staffs philosophy. Unfortunately two things were at fault on the night. We do not have the ability of the Liverpool players even although the passing philosophy is the right one. Carrol l in monetary terms is arguably worth our entire squad. 2ndly although adding Vicente and Noone was the right call, taking off El-Abd was a tactical error. This decision led to players being forced into a formation they have never faced before or (hopefully) will again. Playing 3 at the back caused chaos in defence and ultimately the leakage that followed. The conclusion is that we play the right way, do not have the quality of the premier league and sometimes make tactical errors. Tonight all 3 of those weaknesses were exposed.

namgo49 wrote:
Time to rest Dunk indefinitely.

Nathan L wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote: embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

Why pick on Bridcutt you Palace muppet

palace muppet? im sorry i dont think that bridcutt is consistent. Did you see him against west ham when he set up kevin nolan? or any of the games when we went through our bad run? his contribution in those matches was misplaced passes, and losing the ball in casual situations, our midfield was our weakest part. He has gotten better and more reliable but i dont think he hasnt proven himself as a consistent player. Just my opinion.

Nathan L wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote: embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

Why pick on Bridcutt you Palace muppet

palace muppet? im sorry i dont think that bridcutt is consistent. Did you see him against west ham when he set up kevin nolan? or any of the games when we went through our bad run? his contribution in those matches was misplaced passes, and losing the ball in casual situations, our midfield was our weakest part. He has gotten better and more reliable but i dont think he hasnt proven himself as a consistent player. Just my opinion.

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote: embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

Why pick on Bridcutt you Palace muppet

palace muppet? im sorry i dont think that bridcutt is consistent. Did you see him against west ham when he set up kevin nolan? or any of the games when we went through our bad run? his contribution in those matches was misplaced passes, and losing the ball in casual situations, our midfield was our weakest part. He has gotten better and more reliable but i dont think he hasnt proven himself as a consistent player. Just my opinion.

Bridcutt is a super player for us, but due to a slip against West Ham and being unfortunate against Liverpool he is 'deemed inconsistent'. Crazy town talk!!

Sure, we were weak in midfield today against Gerrard and Adam...I am sure we will not be the last / only team to struggle at Anfield against a top Liverpool...

So many doom mongers. Onward. Upwards.

gordongull wrote:
The F.A.Cup will soon be forgotten.
That was a Liverpool side in top form, and we don't make mistakes like that in the Championship.
This is the best possible outcome in relation to our League season.

Graysgull wrote:
There are some things to be remembered in looking at this result... 1. Liverpool obviously respected us as they put out a very strong team, probably nearly their 1st eleven. 2. Although we conceded 6 goals, to be fair, the own goals we really bad luck. On another day they would all have been brilliant saves, and the other goals were all good goals, some of which showed our frailties. 3. We did not disgrace ourselves at all, we were simply outclassed by a top Premier League team. 4. We didn't seriously expect to win the FA Cup. I will agree with a couple of previous posters about the lessons we will learn from this game, and they will stand us in good stead for the rest of the season. With the new signings this all bodes well for what is to come. Our Season is about the next 15 league games, not 1 cup match All aboard the Gus Bus for the next phase of the journey In Gus we Trust!!

hawksterone wrote:
seagulls were put in their place, end of story, i love Brighton but they will never be up there with the big boys ,,, end of story

Hovite wrote:
Yep WiseOldSeagull, we exposed all of our weaknesses.

I think it is fair to say that conference sides don't even go out like that.

On the plus side, I enjoyed KLL's goal.

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote: embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

Why pick on Bridcutt you Palace muppet

palace muppet? im sorry i dont think that bridcutt is consistent. Did you see him against west ham when he set up kevin nolan? or any of the games when we went through our bad run? his contribution in those matches was misplaced passes, and losing the ball in casual situations, our midfield was our weakest part. He has gotten better and more reliable but i dont think he hasnt proven himself as a consistent player. Just my opinion.

Bridcutt is a super player for us, but due to a slip against West Ham and being unfortunate against Liverpool he is 'deemed inconsistent'. Crazy town talk!!

Sure, we were weak in midfield today against Gerrard and Adam...I am sure we will not be the last / only team to struggle at Anfield against a top Liverpool...

So many doom mongers. Onward. Upwards.

andydownsouth wrote:
The usual hysterical comments and Palace infiltrators!!!
Good effort in first half with a very poor second half.
Gus is a realist and knows we are in no shape to compete wiith top tier premiership sides with the present squad.
Unlike certain teams A CLUB and not just a team is being built here on solid foundations!!!
I find it rather sad that some so called supporters are "kicking" the players on here and by doing this they're showing about as much class as Luis Suarez!!!
Gus has an honest group who go out and give their best every week-sometimes it won't be good enough and Gus is a realistic and wise enough to know some of them won't be here next season.
Lets get behind the players and the manager in their quest for the true goal this season a place in the play offs.
For all the whingers I have two things to say- Portsmouth and Glasgow Rangers.!!!!

WiseOldSeagull wrote:
OK lets get a little bit of perspective on the game. I'll start by introducing myself properly on the site. Born and raised in Brighton and saw my first game at the Goldstone back in the 80's when we lost 2-0 against a Southampton side with Peter Shilton in goal. Got my piece of the Goldstone turf and the back of a seat in 1997 etc. Since 2000 I've followed the Albion from Australia, America and now Sweden. I am a season ticket holder and still get back for half of the home games every year. Tonight I watched on the telly from Sweden and saw a very good passing side who keep the ball quite well and obviously believe in the way we play and all of the coaching staffs philosophy. Unfortunately two things were at fault on the night. We do not have the ability of the Liverpool players even although the passing philosophy is the right one. Carrol l in monetary terms is arguably worth our entire squad. 2ndly although adding Vicente and Noone was the right call, taking off El-Abd was a tactical error. This decision led to players being forced into a formation they have never faced before or (hopefully) will again. Playing 3 at the back caused chaos in defence and ultimately the leakage that followed. The conclusion is that we play the right way, do not have the quality of the premier league and sometimes make tactical errors. Tonight all 3 of those weaknesses were exposed.

Nathan L wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote: embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

Why pick on Bridcutt you Palace muppet

palace muppet? im sorry i dont think that bridcutt is consistent. Did you see him against west ham when he set up kevin nolan? or any of the games when we went through our bad run? his contribution in those matches was misplaced passes, and losing the ball in casual situations, our midfield was our weakest part. He has gotten better and more reliable but i dont think he hasnt proven himself as a consistent player. Just my opinion.

Bridcutt is a super player for us, but due to a slip against West Ham and being unfortunate against Liverpool he is 'deemed inconsistent'. Crazy town talk!!

Sure, we were weak in midfield today against Gerrard and Adam...I am sure we will not be the last / only team to struggle at Anfield against a top Liverpool...

So many doom mongers. Onward. Upwards.

just my personal opinion on bridcutt, ive been to lots of matches this season and bar coventry and couple others he hasnt impressed me. It doesnt make me a doom monger i believe we are doing better than ever, today not a representation. But your right, should forget about today, for a newly promoted side this is our ownly thrashing, and the likes of leeds have had many this season.

Chip of Goring wrote:
Howling errors by Brezovan were why we lost 6-1. We would have lost without them but by only 2-1. The own goals were really down to him as well. And I ask again.? What did Barnes do?

Ford Focus wrote:
Any Albion fan not hurting after that result is kidding themselves. 5 is just acceptable but 6 puts it in the embarrassment zone and I like many will avoid reading the sports pages in the papers tomorrow. I have been a fan in exile for over 30 years now and go to very few games but do watch the games on tv. Today we were totally exposed with too many players making fundamental mistakes but to be honest we have rode our luck in so many other games, we dont appear to have a plan B when things go wrong and the play is so predictable and borders on being boring at times. I will be very surprised if we are anywhere near the play offs come end of season and unless Gus is willing to to adopt a different style of play when necessary then i doubt very much whether he will be able to take us forward. Hull and Ipswich will both fancy there chances after watching the game today. I hope I am proved wrong but i can see us getting a max of one point from the next two games.

CumbrianSeagull wrote:
As much as I support every Albion player that dons a shirt, I think it's time to try out our new Spanish keeper....

pte wrote:
We have beaten 2 premiership sides so it just might be that Liverpool have just come into form at long last.

Brighton were quite decent in the 1st half. As one observed Abdy shouldnt have been taken off but I think Gus wanted to get Noone on out of sentiment even though he was unfit.

But it doesnt matter in fact it never mattered because it was only the cup. Its probably going to extinguish any chance of promotion because with just 15 matches left we have to play catch up and cant afford any slip ups.

Basically we need 10 wins out of 15. Its a big ask

Nathan L wrote:
embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

seagull31 wrote:

pte wrote:
We have beaten 2 premiership sides so it just might be that Liverpool have just come into form at long last.

Brighton were quite decent in the 1st half. As one observed Abdy shouldnt have been taken off but I think Gus wanted to get Noone on out of sentiment even though he was unfit.

But it doesnt matter in fact it never mattered because it was only the cup. Its probably going to extinguish any chance of promotion because with just 15 matches left we have to play catch up and cant afford any slip ups.

Basically we need 10 wins out of 15. Its a big ask

Why is it going to extinguish any chances? Surely, if anything, being out of the cup helps! We are playing for the playoffs. Some intriguing fixtures coming up, starting on Wed at Hull. I agree though, it is a big ask, but let's just see before we write them off!

gordongull wrote:
Southampton were knocked out at home by Millwall less than two weeks ago.
Since then, they have picked up seven points from nine in the League.
Ask them if they would have preferred to play Bolton in the 5th round this weekend or put four past Derby in the League.
They have soon put the Cup behind them, and so will we.

Hovite wrote:
I am quite up for being brutally honest. The fact is we were a laughing stock, Wrexham deserved Liverpool more than us and they would have given them a much better game with their 38 year old manager playing.

We don’t seem to be able to get out of first gear, we lacked heart, awareness and movement as a unit.

We beat ourselves today more than Liverpool playing well and beating us.

Saintjock wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Southampton were knocked out at home by Millwall less than two weeks ago.
Since then, they have picked up seven points from nine in the League.
Ask them if they would have preferred to play Bolton in the 5th round this weekend or put four past Derby in the League.
They have soon put the Cup behind them, and so will we.

You're right - we prefer getting knocked out by Millwall and getting the chance to go back on top of the league and boost our GD to boot. A chance we took!

Seagulls on the other hand will have to pick up from a humiliation on telly. Still at least you have the honour of Dunk going straight into Danny Baker's top three OGs, and of course Gus will be pleased his "misunderstood" mate Suarez got himself back on the scoresheet.

Worse though is that El-Abd's been rumbled, by Chris Waddle and all the ESPN pundits, as more suited to a rugby than a footie pitch. A few more refs may now keep their eye on him. Shame it's too late for Rickie Lambert's and the Leicester guy's 3 and 4 match bans, but maybe Adam's tactics will finally get the scrutiny that fair play on the football field deserves.

pte wrote:

seagull31 wrote:

pte wrote:
We have beaten 2 premiership sides so it just might be that Liverpool have just come into form at long last.

Brighton were quite decent in the 1st half. As one observed Abdy shouldnt have been taken off but I think Gus wanted to get Noone on out of sentiment even though he was unfit.

But it doesnt matter in fact it never mattered because it was only the cup. Its probably going to extinguish any chance of promotion because with just 15 matches left we have to play catch up and cant afford any slip ups.

Basically we need 10 wins out of 15. Its a big ask

Why is it going to extinguish any chances? Surely, if anything, being out of the cup helps! We are playing for the playoffs. Some intriguing fixtures coming up, starting on Wed at Hull. I agree though, it is a big ask, but let's just see before we write them off!

Playing Liverpool today meant we didnt play a league fixture yesterday. So we have to play catch up. Games are running out fast, we only have 15 left so if we lose our next match that puts us further behind.

We are virtually in the run in. While the Man City acquisitions maybe skilful, they look a bit baby faced to me.

Only chance we have is if CMS hits goal scoring form and Vinnie plays a bigger part (he could be the key) KLL looks hot.

Hope Gus chooses on merit

rolivan wrote:

Hovite wrote: I am quite up for being brutally honest. The fact is we were a laughing stock, Wrexham deserved Liverpool more than us and they would have given them a much better game with their 38 year old manager playing. We don’t seem to be able to get out of first gear, we lacked heart, awareness and movement as a unit. We beat ourselves today more than Liverpool playing well and beating us.

I thought You were Mark by the Sea until I looked up and saw it was You.

Hovite wrote:
Sorry rolivan, I am guilty of being frustrated from this performance, not the loss.

I would even question if Gus has installed too much of a lack of urgency in our play. It seems very casual and we are not even able to win corners, we play so far back.

Giving the ball away cheaply led to the goals even before Brez fluffed up.

It was not just individual mistakes, it was a team and management failure. The only joy was KLL.

The next 3 games will determine our season. We have to win 3 in a row just to stay with the pack.

It will be interesting how Cardiff play against Liverpool as this will be a good comparison to where we really are.

Anyway I've got this out of my system, roll on Hull.

I wonder if mbts is laughing at my post ;o)

Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
Also one other point after Lua Lua scored no celebration of which we have become accustomed, is there a problem in the camp??

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Come on chaps. Nothing to fret about. Gus clearly wasn't taking it seriously. Starting with our 3rd choice striker and bridcutts understudy as the creative heart of our midfield tells you everything you need to know. Today was about about sentiment for the scousers and getting the FA cup nuisance out of the way as quickly as possible. 2 prem full backs on Wednesday, Razak in the middle and who knows, even Vicente and Hull won't know what's hit em. On with the real business. And the real team.

seagull31 wrote:

pte wrote:

seagull31 wrote:

pte wrote:
We have beaten 2 premiership sides so it just might be that Liverpool have just come into form at long last.

Brighton were quite decent in the 1st half. As one observed Abdy shouldnt have been taken off but I think Gus wanted to get Noone on out of sentiment even though he was unfit.

But it doesnt matter in fact it never mattered because it was only the cup. Its probably going to extinguish any chance of promotion because with just 15 matches left we have to play catch up and cant afford any slip ups.

Basically we need 10 wins out of 15. Its a big ask

Why is it going to extinguish any chances? Surely, if anything, being out of the cup helps! We are playing for the playoffs. Some intriguing fixtures coming up, starting on Wed at Hull. I agree though, it is a big ask, but let's just see before we write them off!

Playing Liverpool today meant we didnt play a league fixture yesterday. So we have to play catch up. Games are running out fast, we only have 15 left so if we lose our next match that puts us further behind.

We are virtually in the run in. While the Man City acquisitions maybe skilful, they look a bit baby faced to me.

Only chance we have is if CMS hits goal scoring form and Vinnie plays a bigger part (he could be the key) KLL looks hot.

Hope Gus chooses on merit

The only result relevant yesterday was Cardiff getting easily beaten by Ipswich, which helped (Leeds victory doesn't worry me as ultimately if they get more points than us we will prob be out of the reckoning anyway). Prob best to see how the man city guys perform, rather than write them off based on their faces! As for you, Hovite.... What happened to your undentable enthusiasm and rejection of all things negative?! Don't forget, man Utd lost 6-1 earlier in the season but they seem to be doing ok!

gordongull wrote:
Southampton were knocked out at home by Millwall less than two weeks ago.
Since then, they have picked up seven points from nine in the League.
Ask them if they would have preferred to play Bolton in the 5th round this weekend or put four past Derby in the League.
They have soon put the Cup behind them, and so will we.

Hovite wrote:

seagull31 wrote:

pte wrote:

seagull31 wrote:

pte wrote: We have beaten 2 premiership sides so it just might be that Liverpool have just come into form at long last. Brighton were quite decent in the 1st half. As one observed Abdy shouldnt have been taken off but I think Gus wanted to get Noone on out of sentiment even though he was unfit. But it doesnt matter in fact it never mattered because it was only the cup. Its probably going to extinguish any chance of promotion because with just 15 matches left we have to play catch up and cant afford any slip ups. Basically we need 10 wins out of 15. Its a big ask

Why is it going to extinguish any chances? Surely, if anything, being out of the cup helps! We are playing for the playoffs. Some intriguing fixtures coming up, starting on Wed at Hull. I agree though, it is a big ask, but let's just see before we write them off!

Playing Liverpool today meant we didnt play a league fixture yesterday. So we have to play catch up. Games are running out fast, we only have 15 left so if we lose our next match that puts us further behind. We are virtually in the run in. While the Man City acquisitions maybe skilful, they look a bit baby faced to me. Only chance we have is if CMS hits goal scoring form and Vinnie plays a bigger part (he could be the key) KLL looks hot. Hope Gus chooses on merit

The only result relevant yesterday was Cardiff getting easily beaten by Ipswich, which helped (Leeds victory doesn't worry me as ultimately if they get more points than us we will prob be out of the reckoning anyway). Prob best to see how the man city guys perform, rather than write them off based on their faces! As for you, Hovite.... What happened to your undentable enthusiasm and rejection of all things negative?! Don't forget, man Utd lost 6-1 earlier in the season but they seem to be doing ok!

Yeah I didn't say I was perfect, I am only human. I do think that at times like this it is healthy to question things, this was a big test after all. I hope TB, Gus and the players are doing a postmortem. With Reyes, Mattock, Razak and Gai available, it is a good time to try something different. The positive is that it is a valuable lesson to all and it is good to have a wakeup call every now and then. Yes goldstoneoldie; another year in the Championship would not be a bad thing.

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Come on chaps. Nothing to fret about. Gus clearly wasn't taking it seriously. Starting with our 3rd choice striker and bridcutts understudy as the creative heart of our midfield tells you everything you need to know. Today was about about sentiment for the scousers and getting the FA cup nuisance out of the way as quickly as possible. 2 prem full backs on Wednesday, Razak in the middle and who knows, even Vicente and Hull won't know what's hit em. On with the real business. And the real team.

bentnup wrote:
Cheer up guys, Portsmouth and Rangers have R E A L Problems...not us with Gus !

bruce beckett wrote:
Can't believe some of what I've been reading. Andy Carrol cost Liverpool £35 million - far more than the entire Brighton squad put together. And he is just one player. Liverpool have players who are European and even world class. Albion's squad has been built on a budget, which by comparison is a shoe string. This being so wasn't a result like this always on the cards, whoever Poyet picked, or whatever tactics he adopted? Very fair point, Fretless, and I believe it was the first time Liverpool have been able to play Carrol, Suarez and Gerrard in the same team. Liverpool, at their best, are probably the third best team in the country. Having said that, a non-league team would have defended better than we did today.

Hovite wrote:
It was funny Captain Haddock, when Brez came out and jumped over the ball instead of kicking it.

Saintjock wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Southampton were knocked out at home by Millwall less than two weeks ago.
Since then, they have picked up seven points from nine in the League.
Ask them if they would have preferred to play Bolton in the 5th round this weekend or put four past Derby in the League.
They have soon put the Cup behind them, and so will we.

You're right - we prefer getting knocked out by Millwall and getting the chance to go back on top of the league and boost our GD to boot. A chance we took!

Seagulls on the other hand will have to pick up from a humiliation on telly. Still at least you have the honour of Dunk going straight into Danny Baker's top three OGs, and of course Gus will be pleased his "misunderstood" mate Suarez got himself back on the scoresheet.

Worse though is that El-Abd's been rumbled, by Chris Waddle and all the ESPN pundits, as more suited to a rugby than a footie pitch. A few more refs may now keep their eye on him. Shame it's too late for Rickie Lambert's and the Leicester guy's 3 and 4 match bans, but maybe Adam's tactics will finally get the scrutiny that fair play on the football field deserves.

Ford Focus wrote:
Any Albion fan not hurting after that result is kidding themselves. 5 is just acceptable but 6 puts it in the embarrassment zone and I like many will avoid reading the sports pages in the papers tomorrow. I have been a fan in exile for over 30 years now and go to very few games but do watch the games on tv. Today we were totally exposed with too many players making fundamental mistakes but to be honest we have rode our luck in so many other games, we dont appear to have a plan B when things go wrong and the play is so predictable and borders on being boring at times. I will be very surprised if we are anywhere near the play offs come end of season and unless Gus is willing to to adopt a different style of play when necessary then i doubt very much whether he will be able to take us forward. Hull and Ipswich will both fancy there chances after watching the game today. I hope I am proved wrong but i can see us getting a max of one point from the next two games.

Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
Also one other point after Lua Lua scored no celebration of which we have become accustomed, is there a problem in the camp??

Neville wrote:
Good first half up until Brezovan decided to feebly punch a cross he could easily have caught as no Liverpool player near him which led to the 2nd goal and that changed the game just before half time.Second half totally outplayed and the goalkeeping and defending very poor. Lua Lua and Navarro looked our best players and Noone unfortunately,seems unable to produce a decent cross.
Brezovan did exactly the same against Millwall and same result,a goal against us. I have a feeling that the Man City goalkeeper may make his debut against either Hull or Ipswich. We have a golakeeping coach can't he tell the keepers to catch high balls when unchallenged,just basic common sense to retain possession. Very disappointing but hopefully we can move on but this has exposed a lot of failings in some players.

The Phantom wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote:

cullipmyhero wrote:

Nathan L wrote: embarrassment, nothing else about it. The defending was practically non existant, tactics non existant, passion non existant. It always makes me wonder how lua lua was left on the bench for the first half of the season, he was the only bright performance on this dark dark day. Bridcutt hasnt done much to make me change my opinion of him. Hull is the important game at least.

Why pick on Bridcutt you Palace muppet

palace muppet? im sorry i dont think that bridcutt is consistent. Did you see him against west ham when he set up kevin nolan? or any of the games when we went through our bad run? his contribution in those matches was misplaced passes, and losing the ball in casual situations, our midfield was our weakest part. He has gotten better and more reliable but i dont think he hasnt proven himself as a consistent player. Just my opinion.

Bridcutt is a super player for us, but due to a slip against West Ham and being unfortunate against Liverpool he is 'deemed inconsistent'. Crazy town talk!!

Sure, we were weak in midfield today against Gerrard and Adam...I am sure we will not be the last / only team to struggle at Anfield against a top Liverpool...

So many doom mongers. Onward. Upwards.

Bridcott has probably been our most consistent player of the season (as last season). Both own goals today just unfortunate - he did a lot of good work aside from that. To be fair 6-1 flattered us in the end - Liverpool opened us up at will in both halves.....we are very easy to play against in a match against a really top side. If we had played them when Suarez was suspended, Gerrard was injured and Carroll was playing like a donkey, we may have been able to hold them. Thought Vokes did well first half and KLL had a lively match and another good free kick. Noone doesn't look quite right at the moment while Caldy was really exposed at this level - surprised he stayed on ahead of El-Abd who had a reasonably solid game. Think Reyes will be back in at Right Back at Hull. Real mixture from Brezovan - made a lot of saves but everything was a bit fraught. Suspect all the loan players, apart from the Israeli will start on Wednesday - does anyone if JFC is injured at the moment?

Ken from Beamish wrote:
Having been at the game, it was clear that Albion were set up correctly for the first half - their usual 4-5-1, with both full backs getting cover from the wingers, KLL & Buckley. Apart from the opening goal (why do we persist on not having defenders covering both posts ?) we looked reasonably comfortable and played some good controlled football. Most of the players looked assured playing in this formation and, as Vince says, Dalglish was indeed very agitated during the 1st half. The goal before half-time helped change the game plus, no doubt, a rocket from King Kenny at half-time. Liverpool moved up a gear at the start of the second half, and Carroll's goal was the result of a well-worked move. Gus was then faced with leaving the formation as it was, or changing it and chasing the game. He made a bold substitution (and one with an eye on saving legs for Wednesday) by taking off a defender and his target man. So he decided to be positive and chase a result, rather than go for damage limitation. Unfortunately, this exposed Calderon to Downing's pace, left Albion short in defensive midfield cover (Vicente not famous for his tracking back), and put CMS in the target man role (which he is not built for). Gerrard ran riot with the additional room he had, the (now) back three became more and more exposed, and we had no physical presence to hold the ball up front. Hence, one way traffic for most of the second half, although even then there were one or two good things from us going forward. Although the scoreline might be seen as somewhat embarrassing, the result in the bigger scheme of things is unimportant. What's great to see is how Gus is gradually building a squad to compete for a play-off place and, if we don't get promoted this year, to put the foundations in place for a big push next season. It's work in progress, and I was very interested to read Stevie Gerrard's program notes about how much he rates Gus, and that what he is building could land Albion in the Prem Lge. Don't let one or two results diminish what is being built here. There were plenty of performances (in first half particularly) to be proud of yesterday, and compare what has been spent in transfer fees on both sides and indeed on wages! One thing we can take from Liverpool is their unwavering support - personally, I was proud of the team yesterday. Given time and reasonable financial investment, I have no doubt Gus and Tony can take this club into the Premiership - just look at what has been achieved so far under their leadership.

CumbrianSeagull wrote:
As much as I support every Albion player that dons a shirt, I think it's time to try out our new Spanish keeper....

BN1 JB wrote:
6-1 is a shameful result. Liverpool or not. Promotion into the premiership dreams are put on hold for 12 months as a weekly whipping would be inevitable. Still good first half!

Saintjock wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Southampton were knocked out at home by Millwall less than two weeks ago.
Since then, they have picked up seven points from nine in the League.
Ask them if they would have preferred to play Bolton in the 5th round this weekend or put four past Derby in the League.
They have soon put the Cup behind them, and so will we.

You're right - we prefer getting knocked out by Millwall and getting the chance to go back on top of the league and boost our GD to boot. A chance we took!

Seagulls on the other hand will have to pick up from a humiliation on telly. Still at least you have the honour of Dunk going straight into Danny Baker's top three OGs, and of course Gus will be pleased his "misunderstood" mate Suarez got himself back on the scoresheet.

Worse though is that El-Abd's been rumbled, by Chris Waddle and all the ESPN pundits, as more suited to a rugby than a footie pitch. A few more refs may now keep their eye on him. Shame it's too late for Rickie Lambert's and the Leicester guy's 3 and 4 match bans, but maybe Adam's tactics will finally get the scrutiny that fair play on the football field deserves.

Portlock Seagull wrote:
Just back from anfield. We've had a great day out. Liverpool are a class club, been brilliant hosts, their fans humility at out hammering is so refreshing and we even chatted with jimmy case. Now he's a proper legend. At both clubs!

Chin up boys, even Dalglish thought the score was a bit of an unfair reflection. Just learn some lessons from it (eg dont juggle 2 metres from the goal line!) We're out the cup but a great day out all the same.

And stop feeding the trolls everyone! They probably didn't go and of course if you only watched on the tele you won't have enjoyed the convoys on the way up, the banter with the reds fans, the walk on pre march song that is just awe inspiring and the all round history and tradition that anfield just stinks of! Certainly no shame going out to them after seeing the FIVE European cups in the kop museum!!!

seagulljoe wrote:

Saintjock wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Southampton were knocked out at home by Millwall less than two weeks ago.
Since then, they have picked up seven points from nine in the League.
Ask them if they would have preferred to play Bolton in the 5th round this weekend or put four past Derby in the League.
They have soon put the Cup behind them, and so will we.

You're right - we prefer getting knocked out by Millwall and getting the chance to go back on top of the league and boost our GD to boot. A chance we took!

Seagulls on the other hand will have to pick up from a humiliation on telly. Still at least you have the honour of Dunk going straight into Danny Baker's top three OGs, and of course Gus will be pleased his "misunderstood" mate Suarez got himself back on the scoresheet.

Worse though is that El-Abd's been rumbled, by Chris Waddle and all the ESPN pundits, as more suited to a rugby than a footie pitch. A few more refs may now keep their eye on him. Shame it's too late for Rickie Lambert's and the Leicester guy's 3 and 4 match bans, but maybe Adam's tactics will finally get the scrutiny that fair play on the football field deserves.

Get your facts right, no Leicester was banned due to anything to do with El-Abd, and Lambert deserved to go for what he did to El-Abd.

It's man's game, mate, if you can't stand the rough n tumble defenders like El-Abd then go play netball.

You're just bitter about Lambert, as so much of Southampton's game is built around him and you didn't have a clue once he was sent off.

Ken from Beamish wrote:
Having been at the game, it was clear that Albion were set up correctly for the first half - their usual 4-5-1, with both full backs getting cover from the wingers, KLL & Buckley. Apart from the opening goal (why do we persist on not having defenders covering both posts ?) we looked reasonably comfortable and played some good controlled football. Most of the players looked assured playing in this formation and, as Vince says, Dalglish was indeed very agitated during the 1st half. The goal before half-time helped change the game plus, no doubt, a rocket from King Kenny at half-time. Liverpool moved up a gear at the start of the second half, and Carroll's goal was the result of a well-worked move. Gus was then faced with leaving the formation as it was, or changing it and chasing the game. He made a bold substitution (and one with an eye on saving legs for Wednesday) by taking off a defender and his target man. So he decided to be positive and chase a result, rather than go for damage limitation. Unfortunately, this exposed Calderon to Downing's pace, left Albion short in defensive midfield cover (Vicente not famous for his tracking back), and put CMS in the target man role (which he is not built for). Gerrard ran riot with the additional room he had, the (now) back three became more and more exposed, and we had no physical presence to hold the ball up front. Hence, one way traffic for most of the second half, although even then there were one or two good things from us going forward. Although the scoreline might be seen as somewhat embarrassing, the result in the bigger scheme of things is unimportant. What's great to see is how Gus is gradually building a squad to compete for a play-off place and, if we don't get promoted this year, to put the foundations in place for a big push next season. It's work in progress, and I was very interested to read Stevie Gerrard's program notes about how much he rates Gus, and that what he is building could land Albion in the Prem Lge. Don't let one or two results diminish what is being built here. There were plenty of performances (in first half particularly) to be proud of yesterday, and compare what has been spent in transfer fees on both sides and indeed on wages! One thing we can take from Liverpool is their unwavering support - personally, I was proud of the team yesterday. Given time and reasonable financial investment, I have no doubt Gus and Tony can take this club into the Premiership - just look at what has been achieved so far under their leadership.

tooncgull wrote:
My thoughts, from what was a very disappointing afternoon. Lets not get it out of perspective though - to say that we could not survive in te Prem on the basis of one thumping is ludicrous. Both QPR and Swansea were thrashed on the opening day this season - neither are in the relegation zone at this point.

Brezovan; - Was dropped at this stage last season after being held accountable for the 3-0 drubbing at Stoke in the FA Cup 5th round. Owing to the inadequacies of Ankergren, has just reclaimed his place (about 4 or 5 games ago). Up until Tuesday v Millwall has looked very good indeed - however, was at fault for "punching when he should have caught" resulting in a goal on Tuesday, and again yesterday at a key moment, just before Half time, when we really just needed to see out the half. Thereafter, was a bag of nerves. Has surely lost his place again. Penalty save barely makes up for the over-all display.
Greer : Was it him who was at fault for the 4th goal? I thought it was, totally misjudging a high ball to allow the red shirted player to nip in... may be wrong...
Dunk; - Will never forget his moment in front of the kop, juggling the ball off his chest, knee and then slotting calmly in ....Has wiped millions off his potential transfer fee, and the good news is, will probably stil be Brighton's most assured young defender next season. Was part of the collective shambles at the back though..
El Abd: - The last of McGhee's prosaic agricultural team of 2006 - Not a great advert for defending yesterday, normally treads a fine line between aggression and blatant wrestling, but crossed t hat line yesterday. Is probably second choice to cup-tied Mattock for the rest of the season.
Caldo : - Stay on your feet man!!!!
Bridcutt ; Had a good first half... I thought he looked the biz in the first 45. Was not at fault for either og credited to him.
Buckley : - Awful yesterday - Just Awful. A big disappointment, he is generally far better than that. Not surprised to see him subbed at half time.
Navarro : - At least put in a shift against his favourite club, ... was no better or worse t han he usually is though - like the rest, ok up to half time, overrun second half.
Barnes : - Divides opinion at the best of times... those who hate him, say he does nothing - I think he generally is one of the hardest working players at the club - but like Navarro, ok up to half time..... swamped afterwards.
Lua Lua : - Very good first half - Excellent free kick, looked promising - its good to see him start for a change - has been out for ages with injury, but looked back to the old Kaz.
Vokes : Not a lot of service. At fault, sort of, for the goal line clearance that led to the first Bridcutt og... but that may be being a bit harsh. Didnt see a lot of him ....
Subs: Noone ; Big disappointment. Huge. Had 45 minutes and didnt show his "favourite" club anything at all.
Vicente : Flashes just before the 4th goal, but then faded like the rest of the team thereafter.
CMS: Ran around a lot as usual.... with the usual lack of success. Becoming a sortve "Torres" style disappointment for me - all those goals for Peterborough, but perhaps we just dont play to his strengths. He looks a forlorn figure these days

Saintjock wrote:

seagulljoe wrote:

Saintjock wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Southampton were knocked out at home by Millwall less than two weeks ago.
Since then, they have picked up seven points from nine in the League.
Ask them if they would have preferred to play Bolton in the 5th round this weekend or put four past Derby in the League.
They have soon put the Cup behind them, and so will we.

You're right - we prefer getting knocked out by Millwall and getting the chance to go back on top of the league and boost our GD to boot. A chance we took!

Seagulls on the other hand will have to pick up from a humiliation on telly. Still at least you have the honour of Dunk going straight into Danny Baker's top three OGs, and of course Gus will be pleased his "misunderstood" mate Suarez got himself back on the scoresheet.

Worse though is that El-Abd's been rumbled, by Chris Waddle and all the ESPN pundits, as more suited to a rugby than a footie pitch. A few more refs may now keep their eye on him. Shame it's too late for Rickie Lambert's and the Leicester guy's 3 and 4 match bans, but maybe Adam's tactics will finally get the scrutiny that fair play on the football field deserves.

Get your facts right, no Leicester was banned due to anything to do with El-Abd, and Lambert deserved to go for what he did to El-Abd.

It's man's game, mate, if you can't stand the rough n tumble defenders like El-Abd then go play netball.

You're just bitter about Lambert, as so much of Southampton's game is built around him and you didn't have a clue once he was sent off.

Fair dos - it was Newcastle not Leicester. If that makes a difference.
I like the euphemism of rough n tumble defender, and actually it was footie, not netball, Carroll was trying to play yesterday. If you can bear it have a look at Liverpool's second goal yesterday keep your eye on the Carroll El-Abd wrestling match - it's hilarious. We'll never know whether if it hadn't been a goal the ref would have given the most nailed on penalty in history. btw you obviously didn't see the Lambert incident - the Seagulls fans that did see it agree that he had been wrestled to the floor, held down, and then when D'Urso saw Lambert push El-Abd off without seeing any of the preceding action, he sent him off. And a minute before he'd missed another assault in the penalty area on Lambert as bad as the one on Carroll yesterday.

As one your own describes him:

El Abd: - The last of McGhee's prosaic agricultural team of 2006 - Not a great advert for defending yesterday, normally treads a fine line between aggression and blatant wrestling, but crossed t hat line yesterday. Is probably second choice to cup-tied Mattock for the rest of the season.

seagulljoe wrote:

tooncgull wrote: My thoughts, from what was a very disappointing afternoon. Lets not get it out of perspective though - to say that we could not survive in te Prem on the basis of one thumping is ludicrous. Both QPR and Swansea were thrashed on the opening day this season - neither are in the relegation zone at this point. Brezovan; - Was dropped at this stage last season after being held accountable for the 3-0 drubbing at Stoke in the FA Cup 5th round. Owing to the inadequacies of Ankergren, has just reclaimed his place (about 4 or 5 games ago). Up until Tuesday v Millwall has looked very good indeed - however, was at fault for "punching when he should have caught" resulting in a goal on Tuesday, and again yesterday at a key moment, just before Half time, when we really just needed to see out the half. Thereafter, was a bag of nerves. Has surely lost his place again. Penalty save barely makes up for the over-all display. Greer : Was it him who was at fault for the 4th goal? I thought it was, totally misjudging a high ball to allow the red shirted player to nip in... may be wrong... Dunk; - Will never forget his moment in front of the kop, juggling the ball off his chest, knee and then slotting calmly in ....Has wiped millions off his potential transfer fee, and the good news is, will probably stil be Brighton's most assured young defender next season. Was part of the collective shambles at the back though.. El Abd: - The last of McGhee's prosaic agricultural team of 2006 - Not a great advert for defending yesterday, normally treads a fine line between aggression and blatant wrestling, but crossed t hat line yesterday. Is probably second choice to cup-tied Mattock for the rest of the season. Caldo : - Stay on your feet man!!!! Bridcutt ; Had a good first half... I thought he looked the biz in the first 45. Was not at fault for either og credited to him. Buckley : - Awful yesterday - Just Awful. A big disappointment, he is generally far better than that. Not surprised to see him subbed at half time. Navarro : - At least put in a shift against his favourite club, ... was no better or worse t han he usually is though - like the rest, ok up to half time, overrun second half. Barnes : - Divides opinion at the best of times... those who hate him, say he does nothing - I think he generally is one of the hardest working players at the club - but like Navarro, ok up to half time..... swamped afterwards. Lua Lua : - Very good first half - Excellent free kick, looked promising - its good to see him start for a change - has been out for ages with injury, but looked back to the old Kaz. Vokes : Not a lot of service. At fault, sort of, for the goal line clearance that led to the first Bridcutt og... but that may be being a bit harsh. Didnt see a lot of him .... Subs: Noone ; Big disappointment. Huge. Had 45 minutes and didnt show his "favourite" club anything at all. Vicente : Flashes just before the 4th goal, but then faded like the rest of the team thereafter. CMS: Ran around a lot as usual.... with the usual lack of success. Becoming a sortve "Torres" style disappointment for me - all those goals for Peterborough, but perhaps we just dont play to his strengths. He looks a forlorn figure these days

Couple of points, the first being a glaring error - Brez only played cup games last season, Angerkren played every league game, so Brezovan was hardly dropped after the Stoke game was he, there were just no more cup games for him to play. To say 'millions' have been wiped off of Dunk's value because of one own goal is just ludicrous. 1 goal = being devalued by millions - get real. And you clearly don't watch enough Albion games if you have that opinion of El-Abd. Player of the season last year and has been very goof since his comeback from injury.