Blades could move for Hoskins - if they go up (From The Argus)

very little to report then? they may make a move if they go up or they dont!..

Let's hope Hoskins joins Sheff Utd as he has failed to deliver in a Brighton shirt.

As for the interest in Sammy Moore who is he? Surely our targets should be higher profile, more established players who are going to make an immediate impact.

GP backed from 25-1 to 6s at Stan James to be new WBA boss. While new manager markets are notoriously volatile, GP is extremely ambitious and may recognise it will take a lot of work to arrive in the Premier League with BHA anytime soon, as opposed to joining a team already there. Just hope it ain't Tony Bloom doing the punting.

Zamora25 wrote:
Let's hope Hoskins joins Sheff Utd as he has failed to deliver in a Brighton shirt.

As for the interest in Sammy Moore who is he? Surely our targets should be higher profile, more established players who are going to make an immediate impact.

Perhaps you could give us a list of your preferred targets. As you seem to know nothing about Sammy Moore it should make interesting reading.

Zamora25 wrote:
Let's hope Hoskins joins Sheff Utd as he has failed to deliver in a Brighton shirt.

As for the interest in Sammy Moore who is he? Surely our targets should be higher profile, more established players who are going to make an immediate impact.

To save you looking him up here's his profile.......A former youth player with Charlton who came through the Chelsea and Ipswich academies to earn a contract at Portman Road. After making one substitute appearance for Ipswich he went on loan to Brentford in 2007/08, making 17 starts and scoring twice. Released by Ipswich, he signed as a non-contract player at Stevenage, where he made 11 starts before joining his local side Dover in 2008 and making nearly 60 appearances in two seasons, scoring 11 times. Sammy signed for the Dons in July 2010, in pursuit of full-time football.

kwaidam wrote:
GP backed from 25-1 to 6s at Stan James to be new WBA boss. While new manager markets are notoriously volatile, GP is extremely ambitious and may recognise it will take a lot of work to arrive in the Premier League with BHA anytime soon, as opposed to joining a team already there. Just hope it ain't Tony Bloom doing the punting.

I think Gus would prefer to get there on the back of his own efforts. Just think of the job satisfaction of taking a club from the relegation zone in League 1 to the Premiership, and of doing all the development of the club infrastructure along the way.

kwaidam wrote:
GP backed from 25-1 to 6s at Stan James to be new WBA boss. While new manager markets are notoriously volatile, GP is extremely ambitious and may recognise it will take a lot of work to arrive in the Premier League with BHA anytime soon, as opposed to joining a team already there. Just hope it ain't Tony Bloom doing the punting.

Betting is a mugs game. If Poyet leaves we will have zero problems recruiting another high profile manager in- simples

Mark Dixon wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:
Let's hope Hoskins joins Sheff Utd as he has failed to deliver in a Brighton shirt.

As for the interest in Sammy Moore who is he? Surely our targets should be higher profile, more established players who are going to make an immediate impact.

To save you looking him up here's his profile.......A former youth player with Charlton who came through the Chelsea and Ipswich academies to earn a contract at Portman Road. After making one substitute appearance for Ipswich he went on loan to Brentford in 2007/08, making 17 starts and scoring twice. Released by Ipswich, he signed as a non-contract player at Stevenage, where he made 11 starts before joining his local side Dover in 2008 and making nearly 60 appearances in two seasons, scoring 11 times. Sammy signed for the Dons in July 2010, in pursuit of full-time football.

Great stats Mark...zzzzzzz...che
ck out were matt phillips at Blackpool came from, he has been awesome for them this season, the exception to the rule, it proves they are out there in the lower leagues

This player has not really been given the chance to make himself at home, IF WH had not been hampered with injuries from the start and had banged in 20 goals this season he would be loving the city. If he doesnt want to stay then he must go but something tells me we should give this player a chance next season that if he wants it, something tells me the tude is the problem here.

Gus is too ambitious for the WBA board and a club that has reached its peak of mid table mediocrity. Villa are a big club which he might transform into a top half team. But there may be problems behind the scenes that Gus wouldnt fancy. Could be a poison chalice or a stepping stone

Lets face it, If West Brom come knocking Gus will go, same with Villa, however I doubt very much Wolves would be of much intrest to him as I dont really see Wolves as a step up from Albion and now they have been relegated they will lose a lot of their decent players so will have a small budget.
If Gus does go I would like to see someone like Alan Curbishley come in, that might be a far fetched but why not? he hasnt had a job for a while and he is a good manager, although I have a funny feeling that perhaps Zola may be the next man.

As for Hoskins - I really do not care about him, mixed messages from him earlier in the season where he was apparently unaware he was being loaned out and then a few weeks ago he stated he was homesick?? If were serious about progressing then we need a top striker to play alongside CMS and Hoskins is not the answer.

If he goes he goes,not much anyone can do about it, there will no doubt be an outpouring of grief but we will move on with another top manager. This club is bigger than any one man,perhaps with the exception of Mr Bloom. I'm sure he has a list of possible targets, no need to worry this club is going places with or without Mr Poyet.

MrHove wrote:
Lets face it, If West Brom come knocking Gus will go, same with Villa, however I doubt very much Wolves would be of much intrest to him as I dont really see Wolves as a step up from Albion and now they have been relegated they will lose a lot of their decent players so will have a small budget.
If Gus does go I would like to see someone like Alan Curbishley come in, that might be a far fetched but why not? he hasnt had a job for a while and he is a good manager, although I have a funny feeling that perhaps Zola may be the next man.

As for Hoskins - I really do not care about him, mixed messages from him earlier in the season where he was apparently unaware he was being loaned out and then a few weeks ago he stated he was homesick?? If were serious about progressing then we need a top striker to play alongside CMS and Hoskins is not the answer.

Totally disagree with WBA being a good move for GP, Villa 100% yes but not WBA. Curbs is a great shout, think WH needs a injury free run in the team.

Alfie T wrote:
If he goes he goes,not much anyone can do about it, there will no doubt be an outpouring of grief but we will move on with another top manager. This club is bigger than any one man,perhaps with the exception of Mr Bloom. I'm sure he has a list of possible targets, no need to worry this club is going places with or without Mr Poyet.

Great post! 1000% agree. Love GP but might not be a bad thing if he left as you rightly say we are a very appealing move to any top managers now.

MrHove wrote:
Lets face it, If West Brom come knocking Gus will go, same with Villa, however I doubt very much Wolves would be of much intrest to him as I dont really see Wolves as a step up from Albion and now they have been relegated they will lose a lot of their decent players so will have a small budget. If Gus does go I would like to see someone like Alan Curbishley come in, that might be a far fetched but why not? he hasnt had a job for a while and he is a good manager, although I have a funny feeling that perhaps Zola may be the next man. As for Hoskins - I really do not care about him, mixed messages from him earlier in the season where he was apparently unaware he was being loaned out and then a few weeks ago he stated he was homesick?? If were serious about progressing then we need a top striker to play alongside CMS and Hoskins is not the answer.

why would gus go? WBA would give him a budget to do what? mid table? hardly going to get him a top job next! thing for Gus is to get Brighton into premiership, and he can pick a decent job from half a dozen. Villa ia again a job waiting to finish a manager.. unless he does a newcastle and get top 6 , he will become a manager waiting to be sacked, and achieve nothing.. better to take the Albion into the Prem and his record of Withdean bottom 6 in Div one to Amex premiership in three years wil
become a constant chat in football.

mark by the sea wrote:

MrHove wrote:
Lets face it, If West Brom come knocking Gus will go, same with Villa, however I doubt very much Wolves would be of much intrest to him as I dont really see Wolves as a step up from Albion and now they have been relegated they will lose a lot of their decent players so will have a small budget. If Gus does go I would like to see someone like Alan Curbishley come in, that might be a far fetched but why not? he hasnt had a job for a while and he is a good manager, although I have a funny feeling that perhaps Zola may be the next man. As for Hoskins - I really do not care about him, mixed messages from him earlier in the season where he was apparently unaware he was being loaned out and then a few weeks ago he stated he was homesick?? If were serious about progressing then we need a top striker to play alongside CMS and Hoskins is not the answer.

why would gus go? WBA would give him a budget to do what? mid table? hardly going to get him a top job next! thing for Gus is to get Brighton into premiership, and he can pick a decent job from half a dozen. Villa ia again a job waiting to finish a manager.. unless he does a newcastle and get top 6 , he will become a manager waiting to be sacked, and achieve nothing.. better to take the Albion into the Prem and his record of Withdean bottom 6 in Div one to Amex premiership in three years wil
become a constant chat in football.

The most important factor is would He and His Family want to move away from the South East.

Would like to keep Hoskins, if he is willing to stay, I had high hopes for him but we haven't seen him much.
Cannot see Poyet going to any of the clubs mentioned by the Palace fan that writes for the Mail.
Only chance is if Tony doesn't give Gus as much to spend, as he thinks is necessary, to be contenders for promotion, then he might be interested in Villa.

Solbakken to Wolves this morning which shows how well informed that Palace idiot on the Mail is. His story was a deliberate attempt to wind up Albion fans with an old, unoriginal story.

Gus is ambitious and he isn't stupid. WBA and Villa are not ideal for him. Go to either one, be involved in a relegation battle and he's back to square one. Get The Albion into the PL and his value and reputation soar.

Palace idiots should not be allowed to write in a national paper-not even a rag like the Mail.

There seems to be a lack of realism here. Aston Villa are a huge club and are not normally involved in a relegation battle. I would liken them to Everton or Newcastle somewhere around the top 6 or 8. They would invest heavily to make that last jump into Champions League contention. If we did get to the Premiership I can't see us challenging for the top 6 unless we had yet another new stadium with 50 or 60 thousand crowds. It just isn't going to happen.
Avid supporter though I am, the South just isn't a hotbed of support percentage of population wise.

Albion fan in London wrote:

Alfie T wrote:
If he goes he goes,not much anyone can do about it, there will no doubt be an outpouring of grief but we will move on with another top manager. This club is bigger than any one man,perhaps with the exception of Mr Bloom. I'm sure he has a list of possible targets, no need to worry this club is going places with or without Mr Poyet.

Great post! 1000% agree. Love GP but might not be a bad thing if he left as you rightly say we are a very appealing move to any top managers now.

Me too. Gus has done great things for us over the last 2 years, however, I have been less than impressed with some of his outbursts which remind me of a sulky teenager! Threats to leave because a small section of fans had the temerity to boo, criticism of the budget at his disposal (and it has not been bad at all!) public berating of the players before a key game and a general unwillingness to accept responsibility for anything. There are many out there who could and would love to have the chance to manage a rising club like us, so I am comfortable that it will not be the end of the Universe if he departs, which he surely will when opportunity knocks!

mark5 wrote:

Albion fan in London wrote:

Alfie T wrote: If he goes he goes,not much anyone can do about it, there will no doubt be an outpouring of grief but we will move on with another top manager. This club is bigger than any one man,perhaps with the exception of Mr Bloom. I'm sure he has a list of possible targets, no need to worry this club is going places with or without Mr Poyet.

Great post! 1000% agree. Love GP but might not be a bad thing if he left as you rightly say we are a very appealing move to any top managers now.

Me too. Gus has done great things for us over the last 2 years, however, I have been less than impressed with some of his outbursts which remind me of a sulky teenager! Threats to leave because a small section of fans had the temerity to boo, criticism of the budget at his disposal (and it has not been bad at all!) public berating of the players before a key game and a general unwillingness to accept responsibility for anything. There are many out there who could and would love to have the chance to manage a rising club like us, so I am comfortable that it will not be the end of the Universe if he departs, which he surely will when opportunity knocks!

Agree with all of the above.just question his committment sometimes and his relationship with the supporters, never seems to acknowledge us at home matches.

cvs wrote:
There seems to be a lack of realism here. Aston Villa are a huge club and are not normally involved in a relegation battle. I would liken them to Everton or Newcastle somewhere around the top 6 or 8. They would invest heavily to make that last jump into Champions League contention. If we did get to the Premiership I can't see us challenging for the top 6 unless we had yet another new stadium with 50 or 60 thousand crowds. It just isn't going to happen.
Avid supporter though I am, the South just isn't a hotbed of support percentage of population wise.

Totaly agree. Huge club with massive support and the ability to invest if need be. If Villa come knocking at Gus's door he will be thanking the God of fortune all month! However, I suspect this is very unlikely. He has a lot to prove still and their sights will be on experience and the ability to deal with pressure and expectation and that is not Gus!!

If Gus is on a long contract then the penny pinchers at WBA wouldn't pay TB the required compo. I don't think Villa would either. As Charlie says: "talk is cheap". If a club are willing to make a bid for Gus then TB can decide to either increase Gus's to match, or save his money, take the compo to reinvest and get another manager of which there are many. But Gus would have to be a twerp to go to a club outside the top 8 of the Prem considering what he has here.

mark by the sea wrote:

MrHove wrote:
Lets face it, If West Brom come knocking Gus will go, same with Villa, however I doubt very much Wolves would be of much intrest to him as I dont really see Wolves as a step up from Albion and now they have been relegated they will lose a lot of their decent players so will have a small budget. If Gus does go I would like to see someone like Alan Curbishley come in, that might be a far fetched but why not? he hasnt had a job for a while and he is a good manager, although I have a funny feeling that perhaps Zola may be the next man. As for Hoskins - I really do not care about him, mixed messages from him earlier in the season where he was apparently unaware he was being loaned out and then a few weeks ago he stated he was homesick?? If were serious about progressing then we need a top striker to play alongside CMS and Hoskins is not the answer.

why would gus go? WBA would give him a budget to do what? mid table? hardly going to get him a top job next! thing for Gus is to get Brighton into premiership, and he can pick a decent job from half a dozen. Villa ia again a job waiting to finish a manager.. unless he does a newcastle and get top 6 , he will become a manager waiting to be sacked, and achieve nothing.. better to take the Albion into the Prem and his record of Withdean bottom 6 in Div one to Amex premiership in three years wil
become a constant chat in football.

I think realism is needed, WBA are in the Premier League and to me WBA would be a step up, I agree that we (BHA) are moving in the right direction but a Premier League club who are starting to establish themselevs and push on would be a new challenge and a step up.
I really hope Gus does stay, love the way he has got albion playing and isnt afraid to speak his mind, i do feel as though he has started something and would be nice for him to get us into the big time.
In Gus We Trust!

MBTS, you say that "managing West Brom is hardly going to get him a top job next". Well, the most recent West Brom manager has landed the England job!

He was on a short contract so a cheap option. Would Gus go to WBA on a short contract when he has a long contract at Brighton? As Charlie says: "talk is cheap"

Wba would be ideal and attractive option for Poyet,.... lets hope he isnt offered a job then eh?

andyp123 wrote:
MBTS, you say that "managing West Brom is hardly going to get him a top job next". Well, the most recent West Brom manager has landed the England job!

To be fair, I think Roy Hodgson had "previous" - a full CV including other premiership management, league champions inother countries and three (? without checking) international teams.

davidinsouthampton wrote:

andyp123 wrote:
MBTS, you say that "managing West Brom is hardly going to get him a top job next". Well, the most recent West Brom manager has landed the England job!

To be fair, I think Roy Hodgson had "previous" - a full CV including other premiership management, league champions inother countries and three (? without checking) international teams.

Maybe, but the one before him is just about to take his current team into the final of the Champions' League.

While we're talking about realism, I think it's about time we appreciated what time of year this is. The close season, when nothing happens on the pitch, is a challenge for pundits, sports channels, and newspapers (including this one with its 'Rumour Mill'). That means all sorts of nonsense is written (arguably knowingly by the clubs involved) to keep them in the news.

Count how many players are 'linked' with the Albion, and, by the end of the transfer window, we would probably have a squad of about 80! And what would Zamora25 make of that?

Gus might go this summer to a PL club, he might not, but one thing's for sure: NONE of the tabloid hacks have a clue.

I'm sure I don't need to say that just because something appears in the media, doesn't mean it's true...

Zamora25 wrote:
Let's hope Hoskins joins Sheff Utd as he has failed to deliver in a Brighton shirt.

As for the interest in Sammy Moore who is he? Surely our targets should be higher profile, more established players who are going to make an immediate impact.

Marvellous! Hoskins hardly played so not sure how you gauge whether he is good enough? As for your comments regarding the level of players we should aim for, beggars belief when you consider you take your name from a player we got from Bristol Rovers reserves.

It's absolutely comical to suggest that a move to WBA is not a step up. Someone suggested he would do better to get into the premiership with Brighton and then he would have a pick of top six jobs. That is a joke. If we get there, we are almost certainly going to struggle for several years, probably yo-yoing between the two divisions. WBA are reasonably established and if he could take them to the next level, similar to the way Fulham got to Europe then that maybe when bigger jobs get offered. As for moving, not sure he would need to move far as he could easily just live north of London.

mark5 wrote:

Albion fan in London wrote:

Alfie T wrote:
If he goes he goes,not much anyone can do about it, there will no doubt be an outpouring of grief but we will move on with another top manager. This club is bigger than any one man,perhaps with the exception of Mr Bloom. I'm sure he has a list of possible targets, no need to worry this club is going places with or without Mr Poyet.

Great post! 1000% agree. Love GP but might not be a bad thing if he left as you rightly say we are a very appealing move to any top managers now.

Me too. Gus has done great things for us over the last 2 years, however, I have been less than impressed with some of his outbursts which remind me of a sulky teenager! Threats to leave because a small section of fans had the temerity to boo, criticism of the budget at his disposal (and it has not been bad at all!) public berating of the players before a key game and a general unwillingness to accept responsibility for anything. There are many out there who could and would love to have the chance to manage a rising club like us, so I am comfortable that it will not be the end of the Universe if he departs, which he surely will when opportunity knocks!

General unwillingness to accept responsibility for anything?

Absolute tosh.

There have been many Monday mornings when I have read the match report in the Argus, and Gus has said 'I am the manager, I pick the team, so it is my fault'.

I'd rather have someone like Gus, who wears his heart on his sleeve, any day than someone like Adkins who's so full of managerial BS that he sounds like David Brent all the time.

I would be fascinated to see how Will H's incessant injuries would have been if he had been treated by the new medical team. The persistent hamstring problems of other team members, due allegedly to the revolutionary playing surface of the AMEX, seem to have miraculously disappeared with the arrival of the new medical team. If fit - and probably happier - he could still contribute to the Albion. Sadly the squad still contains others who won't - or can't.

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
I would be fascinated to see how Will H's incessant injuries would have been if he had been treated by the new medical team. The persistent hamstring problems of other team members, due allegedly to the revolutionary playing surface of the AMEX, seem to have miraculously disappeared with the arrival of the new medical team. If fit - and probably happier - he could still contribute to the Albion. Sadly the squad still contains others who won't - or can't.

Your constant positivity never ceases to fill my heart with joy

seagulljoe wrote:

mark5 wrote:

Albion fan in London wrote:

Alfie T wrote:
If he goes he goes,not much anyone can do about it, there will no doubt be an outpouring of grief but we will move on with another top manager. This club is bigger than any one man,perhaps with the exception of Mr Bloom. I'm sure he has a list of possible targets, no need to worry this club is going places with or without Mr Poyet.

Great post! 1000% agree. Love GP but might not be a bad thing if he left as you rightly say we are a very appealing move to any top managers now.

Me too. Gus has done great things for us over the last 2 years, however, I have been less than impressed with some of his outbursts which remind me of a sulky teenager! Threats to leave because a small section of fans had the temerity to boo, criticism of the budget at his disposal (and it has not been bad at all!) public berating of the players before a key game and a general unwillingness to accept responsibility for anything. There are many out there who could and would love to have the chance to manage a rising club like us, so I am comfortable that it will not be the end of the Universe if he departs, which he surely will when opportunity knocks!

General unwillingness to accept responsibility for anything?

Absolute tosh.

There have been many Monday mornings when I have read the match report in the Argus, and Gus has said 'I am the manager, I pick the team, so it is my fault'.

I'd rather have someone like Gus, who wears his heart on his sleeve, any day than someone like Adkins who's so full of managerial BS that he sounds like David Brent all the time.

Yes Adkins does two things to unsettle me:

1) he looks like an extra on Thunderbirds

2) his cliché-ridden "brimming with confidence and positivity" style disturbingly resembles the personality of a religious (or other similar) zealot.