Oatway warns of summer of speculation surrounding Poyet (From The Argus)

Judging from this thread I think Poyet will remain with the Albion for at least another couple of seasons. As long as progress continues he will be happy and believe that his best chance of managing in the premiership lies with BHA.
Next season there is the potential for more revenue from gate receipts/season tickets as the extra seating goes in. One would also as a result expect merchandising revenue to increase as well. This is all good news for Poyet since the budget for new players this summer should increase as a result. Potentially the budget should increase further next summer (2013) when tha last 2,000 seats are added.
However I hope he gets all the new recruits he wants signed up before pre-season training starts so any new players have plenty of time to adjust to our playing style. Signing players just before the transfer window expires a la Harley is not ideal.
I still think we need a couple of strikers, 2 full backs (hopefully one being Maddock) at least one new keeper and most importantly at least one if not two central midfielders.
There seems to be lots of activity with Poyet, Tano, Oatway and Williams watching players but no real hard news. Have any of you regular posters heard anything ? Incidently has Poyet had a budget meeting with TB yet ?
Interesting times ahead.

John Terry has just tweeted saying "how gutted he will be to miss the Champions League Final" in Munich. He added "It just won't be the same watching it on tv at Christine Bleakley's house".

Alan Duffy wrote:
John Terry has just tweeted saying "how gutted he will be to miss the Champions League Final" in Munich. He added "It just won't be the same watching it on tv at Christine Bleakley's house".

Err yeah...This is a story about speculation over Poyet, not speculation over John Terry and his inexcusable behaviour on and off the pitch. Got anything to say about Poyet?

pebble counter wrote:

Alan Duffy wrote:
John Terry has just tweeted saying "how gutted he will be to miss the Champions League Final" in Munich. He added "It just won't be the same watching it on tv at Christine Bleakley's house".

Err yeah...This is a story about speculation over Poyet, not speculation over John Terry and his inexcusable behaviour on and off the pitch. Got anything to say about Poyet?

No

pebble counter wrote:

Alan Duffy wrote:
John Terry has just tweeted saying "how gutted he will be to miss the Champions League Final" in Munich. He added "It just won't be the same watching it on tv at Christine Bleakley's house".

Err yeah...This is a story about speculation over Poyet, not speculation over John Terry and his inexcusable behaviour on and off the pitch. Got anything to say about Poyet?

Chill out mate,it's Friday.

Just interested... apart from Steve Coppell, who was the last albion manager who went on to do well at another club... i'm struggling to think of anyone... offers?

Just a bit of fun 'pebble dash' glad I don't sit next to you at the Amex, but yeah I'll add my views about Gus, great manager and has worked really well for us, but perhaps we're the right club for him as well and he might struggle to emulate the same success elsewhere, let me give you a bit of 'loyal supporter' wisdom, one name, 'Alan Mullery' never did anything after he left us, was just the right man at the right time. Ok happy now 'Pebble's' ?

'Barry Lloyd' Lol

kwaidam wrote:
Just interested... apart from Steve Coppell, who was the last albion manager who went on to do well at another club... i'm struggling to think of anyone... offers?

Jimmy Melia.....

Have we consolidated yet?
If we have I didn't notice, or will it happen next season? Will it still be called consolidation if it is also a promotion push, or do you have to aim for mid-table?
Gus gives the impression of wanting to go up. Does this mean we might have to miss out on consolidation?
I am sure that one of the many advocates of consolidation over the course of last season will enlighten me on the finer points.

kwaidam wrote:
Just interested... apart from Steve Coppell, who was the last albion manager who went on to do well at another club... i'm struggling to think of anyone... offers?

Dean Wilkins - the only one who'll be in the premiership next season.

Alfie T wrote:

kwaidam wrote:
Just interested... apart from Steve Coppell, who was the last albion manager who went on to do well at another club... i'm struggling to think of anyone... offers?

Jimmy Melia.....

Brian Clough and Peter Taylor

ballantrrae wrote:
Judging from this thread I think Poyet will remain with the Albion for at least another couple of seasons. As long as progress continues he will be happy and believe that his best chance of managing in the premiership lies with BHA.
Next season there is the potential for more revenue from gate receipts/season tickets as the extra seating goes in. One would also as a result expect merchandising revenue to increase as well. This is all good news for Poyet since the budget for new players this summer should increase as a result. Potentially the budget should increase further next summer (2013) when tha last 2,000 seats are added.
However I hope he gets all the new recruits he wants signed up before pre-season training starts so any new players have plenty of time to adjust to our playing style. Signing players just before the transfer window expires a la Harley is not ideal.
I still think we need a couple of strikers, 2 full backs (hopefully one being Maddock) at least one new keeper and most importantly at least one if not two central midfielders.
There seems to be lots of activity with Poyet, Tano, Oatway and Williams watching players but no real hard news. Have any of you regular posters heard anything ? Incidently has Poyet had a budget meeting with TB yet ?
Interesting times ahead.

Firstly I don't expect the extra seats at the amex will have any bearing on the transfer budget ever. And lastly the regular season finished only a few Weeks back and if you are expecting transfers this early on then your in for a long summer. Any dealings now would be a bad move. Way too early to be signing players. More likely to happen in the last Weeks of August.

rolivan wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

kwaidam wrote:
Just interested... apart from Steve Coppell, who was the last albion manager who went on to do well at another club... i'm struggling to think of anyone... offers?

Jimmy Melia.....

Brian Clough and Peter Taylor

Good job somebody's awake!

gordongull wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

kwaidam wrote:
Just interested... apart from Steve Coppell, who was the last albion manager who went on to do well at another club... i'm struggling to think of anyone... offers?

Jimmy Melia.....

Brian Clough and Peter Taylor

Good job somebody's awake!

Only just.Can you Imagine him putting up with the things players get up to now.They wouldn't have wanted to want to try it.

BHArulz wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
Judging from this thread I think Poyet will remain with the Albion for at least another couple of seasons. As long as progress continues he will be happy and believe that his best chance of managing in the premiership lies with BHA.
Next season there is the potential for more revenue from gate receipts/season tickets as the extra seating goes in. One would also as a result expect merchandising revenue to increase as well. This is all good news for Poyet since the budget for new players this summer should increase as a result. Potentially the budget should increase further next summer (2013) when tha last 2,000 seats are added.
However I hope he gets all the new recruits he wants signed up before pre-season training starts so any new players have plenty of time to adjust to our playing style. Signing players just before the transfer window expires a la Harley is not ideal.
I still think we need a couple of strikers, 2 full backs (hopefully one being Maddock) at least one new keeper and most importantly at least one if not two central midfielders.
There seems to be lots of activity with Poyet, Tano, Oatway and Williams watching players but no real hard news. Have any of you regular posters heard anything ? Incidently has Poyet had a budget meeting with TB yet ?
Interesting times ahead.

Firstly I don't expect the extra seats at the amex will have any bearing on the transfer budget ever. And lastly the regular season finished only a few Weeks back and if you are expecting transfers this early on then your in for a long summer. Any dealings now would be a bad move. Way too early to be signing players. More likely to happen in the last Weeks of August.

So how do they get to do a pre- season and fit in with the way Gus wants them to play.The season starts in August.

Alan Duffy wrote:
John Terry has just tweeted saying "how gutted he will be to miss the Champions League Final" in Munich. He added "It just won't be the same watching it on tv at Christine Bleakley's house".

Thought Christine Bleakley was in a relationship with Frank Lampard or was that the point of your post ?

There is one simple way for Poyet to stop all this speculation and that is for him to say he isn't going anywhere.

I am sorry to say that Heskey is on the way.

gordongull wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

kwaidam wrote:
Just interested... apart from Steve Coppell, who was the last albion manager who went on to do well at another club... i'm struggling to think of anyone... offers?

Jimmy Melia.....

Brian Clough and Peter Taylor

Good job somebody's awake!

Another thought - Alan Curbishley.

rolivan wrote:

BHArulz wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
Judging from this thread I think Poyet will remain with the Albion for at least another couple of seasons. As long as progress continues he will be happy and believe that his best chance of managing in the premiership lies with BHA.
Next season there is the potential for more revenue from gate receipts/season tickets as the extra seating goes in. One would also as a result expect merchandising revenue to increase as well. This is all good news for Poyet since the budget for new players this summer should increase as a result. Potentially the budget should increase further next summer (2013) when tha last 2,000 seats are added.
However I hope he gets all the new recruits he wants signed up before pre-season training starts so any new players have plenty of time to adjust to our playing style. Signing players just before the transfer window expires a la Harley is not ideal.
I still think we need a couple of strikers, 2 full backs (hopefully one being Maddock) at least one new keeper and most importantly at least one if not two central midfielders.
There seems to be lots of activity with Poyet, Tano, Oatway and Williams watching players but no real hard news. Have any of you regular posters heard anything ? Incidently has Poyet had a budget meeting with TB yet ?
Interesting times ahead.

Firstly I don't expect the extra seats at the amex will have any bearing on the transfer budget ever. And lastly the regular season finished only a few Weeks back and if you are expecting transfers this early on then your in for a long summer. Any dealings now would be a bad move. Way too early to be signing players. More likely to happen in the last Weeks of August.

So how do they get to do a pre- season and fit in with the way Gus wants them to play.The season starts in August.

They don't. Wait and see no one will be signed before August. Mark g words.

BHArulz wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
Judging from this thread I think Poyet will remain with the Albion for at least another couple of seasons. As long as progress continues he will be happy and believe that his best chance of managing in the premiership lies with BHA.
Next season there is the potential for more revenue from gate receipts/season tickets as the extra seating goes in. One would also as a result expect merchandising revenue to increase as well. This is all good news for Poyet since the budget for new players this summer should increase as a result. Potentially the budget should increase further next summer (2013) when tha last 2,000 seats are added.
However I hope he gets all the new recruits he wants signed up before pre-season training starts so any new players have plenty of time to adjust to our playing style. Signing players just before the transfer window expires a la Harley is not ideal.
I still think we need a couple of strikers, 2 full backs (hopefully one being Maddock) at least one new keeper and most importantly at least one if not two central midfielders.
There seems to be lots of activity with Poyet, Tano, Oatway and Williams watching players but no real hard news. Have any of you regular posters heard anything ? Incidently has Poyet had a budget meeting with TB yet ?
Interesting times ahead.

Firstly I don't expect the extra seats at the amex will have any bearing on the transfer budget ever. And lastly the regular season finished only a few Weeks back and if you are expecting transfers this early on then your in for a long summer. Any dealings now would be a bad move. Way too early to be signing players. More likely to happen in the last Weeks of August.

Your point about signings not happening until August noted and I expect that you will be proved right.
However Poyet said a few weeks back that he would like (if poss) to get any new players in by 1 July.
The point about the extra seats is that the (hoped for) additional revenue might help BHA to compete in the market place and should strengthen the club financially.
Any increased revenue will make life easier under the new 'fair play' rules that have been agreed.

If Gus simply wants to work in the Premiership then the easiest way will be for him to be appointed to a mid-table current team such as Fulham, Stoke, West Brom, Villa, possibly even Everton, because a job offer from a club like that will surely come. He will be a popular appointment because he has had proven success, is charasmatic, good with the media and looks to play football "the right way". There'll be no criticism from fans at those clubs over his appointment because for these reasons they'll think he "deserves a chance". It will be much harder for hime to take Brighton there because the Championship is actually a very difficult division to get promoted from. Getting the Albion there in the next two years would be a phenomenal achievement, verging on unlikely.
The question is, would he want to take that route? He's invested a lot in Brighton and the Club is clearly shaped in his image at all levels (notably the training complex). Would he want to leave that significant a project half-way through? My view is yes, he would, maybe not by applying but certainly if the club concerned came to him. That would be consistent with his attitude to his players - if they want to go and further their career elsewhere he won't stand in their way - Crofts, Bennett, even Noone (although he ended up staying). Same will be true of the manager. I doubt he'd go to Birmingham, Wolves, or another Championship team because what's the point? But if Fulham, West Brom, Everton, Villa or another established premiership team came along and said "come and transform us in the way you've transformed Brighton but with more money and better players" then he'd be gone like a shot. And good luck to him if that's what he decides. Obviously I'd rather he took the view that he set out on a five-year project with Brighton and will stay to see it through, but I think that's naive because he's an ambitious man. That said, time is on his side and the only urgency is if he fears his star falling through Brighton going backwards. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
The moral of the story - as it always, always is - is to make the most of the good times while they're happening. The last two seasons have been among the best ever to be an Albion fan - and certainly historic. Let's enjoy it while we can. Relax over the summer, suffer the slings and arrows of the pointless speculation of a lazy national press, and look forward to 2012/13 when it comes. Whoever's in charge.

Weploughandmow wrote:
If Gus simply wants to work in the Premiership then the easiest way will be for him to be appointed to a mid-table current team such as Fulham, Stoke, West Brom, Villa, possibly even Everton, because a job offer from a club like that will surely come. He will be a popular appointment because he has had proven success, is charasmatic, good with the media and looks to play football "the right way". There'll be no criticism from fans at those clubs over his appointment because for these reasons they'll think he "deserves a chance". It will be much harder for hime to take Brighton there because the Championship is actually a very difficult division to get promoted from. Getting the Albion there in the next two years would be a phenomenal achievement, verging on unlikely.
The question is, would he want to take that route? He's invested a lot in Brighton and the Club is clearly shaped in his image at all levels (notably the training complex). Would he want to leave that significant a project half-way through? My view is yes, he would, maybe not by applying but certainly if the club concerned came to him. That would be consistent with his attitude to his players - if they want to go and further their career elsewhere he won't stand in their way - Crofts, Bennett, even Noone (although he ended up staying). Same will be true of the manager. I doubt he'd go to Birmingham, Wolves, or another Championship team because what's the point? But if Fulham, West Brom, Everton, Villa or another established premiership team came along and said "come and transform us in the way you've transformed Brighton but with more money and better players" then he'd be gone like a shot. And good luck to him if that's what he decides. Obviously I'd rather he took the view that he set out on a five-year project with Brighton and will stay to see it through, but I think that's naive because he's an ambitious man. That said, time is on his side and the only urgency is if he fears his star falling through Brighton going backwards. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
The moral of the story - as it always, always is - is to make the most of the good times while they're happening. The last two seasons have been among the best ever to be an Albion fan - and certainly historic. Let's enjoy it while we can. Relax over the summer, suffer the slings and arrows of the pointless speculation of a lazy national press, and look forward to 2012/13 when it comes. Whoever's in charge.

Great post !

Thank you ballantrrae.

ballantrrae wrote:

BHArulz wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
Judging from this thread I think Poyet will remain with the Albion for at least another couple of seasons. As long as progress continues he will be happy and believe that his best chance of managing in the premiership lies with BHA.
Next season there is the potential for more revenue from gate receipts/season tickets as the extra seating goes in. One would also as a result expect merchandising revenue to increase as well. This is all good news for Poyet since the budget for new players this summer should increase as a result. Potentially the budget should increase further next summer (2013) when tha last 2,000 seats are added.
However I hope he gets all the new recruits he wants signed up before pre-season training starts so any new players have plenty of time to adjust to our playing style. Signing players just before the transfer window expires a la Harley is not ideal.
I still think we need a couple of strikers, 2 full backs (hopefully one being Maddock) at least one new keeper and most importantly at least one if not two central midfielders.
There seems to be lots of activity with Poyet, Tano, Oatway and Williams watching players but no real hard news. Have any of you regular posters heard anything ? Incidently has Poyet had a budget meeting with TB yet ?
Interesting times ahead.

Firstly I don't expect the extra seats at the amex will have any bearing on the transfer budget ever. And lastly the regular season finished only a few Weeks back and if you are expecting transfers this early on then your in for a long summer. Any dealings now would be a bad move. Way too early to be signing players. More likely to happen in the last Weeks of August.

Your point about signings not happening until August noted and I expect that you will be proved right.
However Poyet said a few weeks back that he would like (if poss) to get any new players in by 1 July.
The point about the extra seats is that the (hoped for) additional revenue might help BHA to compete in the market place and should strengthen the club financially.
Any increased revenue will make life easier under the new 'fair play' rules that have been agreed.

I will hold my hands up if we sign players early, would be good if it happens extra time to bed in.

Alan Duffy wrote:
Just a bit of fun 'pebble dash' glad I don't sit next to you at the Amex, but yeah I'll add my views about Gus, great manager and has worked really well for us, but perhaps we're the right club for him as well and he might struggle to emulate the same success elsewhere, let me give you a bit of 'loyal supporter' wisdom, one name, 'Alan Mullery' never did anything after he left us, was just the right man at the right time. Ok happy now 'Pebble's' ?

That's better. I knew you could do it if you tried.

Gus is still very young in management. Hopefully he will stay at the Albion and build on what was a great 1st season in the Championship. The way he has transformed the club is tribute to his management skills. If he stays I would anticipate a good promotion push next season. Hopefully Vincente stays as well. Great management,team and stadium. Up the Albion.

To all those doom and gloom merchants who seem to know nothing other than that the transfer window closes at the end of August hence their comments that's when we will sign players. Just remind me when we made the three major signings last summer, ie Hoskins, Buckley and CMS? Apart from short term, football contracts expire on the30th June so thats when a lot of activity will start for players out of contract. Of course if a player isn't out of contract then we can still sign them even earlier but with a fee. Most players will probably be on their hols at this time.

BHArulz wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

BHArulz wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
Judging from this thread I think Poyet will remain with the Albion for at least another couple of seasons. As long as progress continues he will be happy and believe that his best chance of managing in the premiership lies with BHA.
Next season there is the potential for more revenue from gate receipts/season tickets as the extra seating goes in. One would also as a result expect merchandising revenue to increase as well. This is all good news for Poyet since the budget for new players this summer should increase as a result. Potentially the budget should increase further next summer (2013) when tha last 2,000 seats are added.
However I hope he gets all the new recruits he wants signed up before pre-season training starts so any new players have plenty of time to adjust to our playing style. Signing players just before the transfer window expires a la Harley is not ideal.
I still think we need a couple of strikers, 2 full backs (hopefully one being Maddock) at least one new keeper and most importantly at least one if not two central midfielders.
There seems to be lots of activity with Poyet, Tano, Oatway and Williams watching players but no real hard news. Have any of you regular posters heard anything ? Incidently has Poyet had a budget meeting with TB yet ?
Interesting times ahead.

Firstly I don't expect the extra seats at the amex will have any bearing on the transfer budget ever. And lastly the regular season finished only a few Weeks back and if you are expecting transfers this early on then your in for a long summer. Any dealings now would be a bad move. Way too early to be signing players. More likely to happen in the last Weeks of August.

Your point about signings not happening until August noted and I expect that you will be proved right.
However Poyet said a few weeks back that he would like (if poss) to get any new players in by 1 July.
The point about the extra seats is that the (hoped for) additional revenue might help BHA to compete in the market place and should strengthen the club financially.
Any increased revenue will make life easier under the new 'fair play' rules that have been agreed.

I will hold my hands up if we sign players early, would be good if it happens extra time to bed in.

BHArulz, it's because I suspect we will probably only sign say only one or two players before pre-season training starts that I expressed the hope that Poyet moves sooner rather than later. The squad needs time together to gell and as said earlier for any new players to adapt to our playing style or to quote you to 'bed in' which I think takes longer than at some other clubs.
As another poster has said, I appreciate many players contracts end 30 June but that does not mean that targets cannot be lined up before then.
Most importantly I want the Albion to keep Vicente and from what Poyet has said it seems that might be dependant on whom we sign. Vicente may not 'hang around' to see who joins if there is little movement in before the beginning of August.
So realistically I am not expecting news of any signings fot another 6 weeks or so but hope I am proved wrong.
Returning to the question of Poyet's future I still think he will be here next season but the rumour (rumour only as I write) that McLeish is leaving Villa does raise a small doubt in my mind.

ballantrrae wrote:

BHArulz wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

BHArulz wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
Judging from this thread I think Poyet will remain with the Albion for at least another couple of seasons. As long as progress continues he will be happy and believe that his best chance of managing in the premiership lies with BHA.
Next season there is the potential for more revenue from gate receipts/season tickets as the extra seating goes in. One would also as a result expect merchandising revenue to increase as well. This is all good news for Poyet since the budget for new players this summer should increase as a result. Potentially the budget should increase further next summer (2013) when tha last 2,000 seats are added.
However I hope he gets all the new recruits he wants signed up before pre-season training starts so any new players have plenty of time to adjust to our playing style. Signing players just before the transfer window expires a la Harley is not ideal.
I still think we need a couple of strikers, 2 full backs (hopefully one being Maddock) at least one new keeper and most importantly at least one if not two central midfielders.
There seems to be lots of activity with Poyet, Tano, Oatway and Williams watching players but no real hard news. Have any of you regular posters heard anything ? Incidently has Poyet had a budget meeting with TB yet ?
Interesting times ahead.

Firstly I don't expect the extra seats at the amex will have any bearing on the transfer budget ever. And lastly the regular season finished only a few Weeks back and if you are expecting transfers this early on then your in for a long summer. Any dealings now would be a bad move. Way too early to be signing players. More likely to happen in the last Weeks of August.

Your point about signings not happening until August noted and I expect that you will be proved right.
However Poyet said a few weeks back that he would like (if poss) to get any new players in by 1 July.
The point about the extra seats is that the (hoped for) additional revenue might help BHA to compete in the market place and should strengthen the club financially.
Any increased revenue will make life easier under the new 'fair play' rules that have been agreed.

I will hold my hands up if we sign players early, would be good if it happens extra time to bed in.

BHArulz, it's because I suspect we will probably only sign say only one or two players before pre-season training starts that I expressed the hope that Poyet moves sooner rather than later. The squad needs time together to gell and as said earlier for any new players to adapt to our playing style or to quote you to 'bed in' which I think takes longer than at some other clubs.
As another poster has said, I appreciate many players contracts end 30 June but that does not mean that targets cannot be lined up before then.
Most importantly I want the Albion to keep Vicente and from what Poyet has said it seems that might be dependant on whom we sign. Vicente may not 'hang around' to see who joins if there is little movement in before the beginning of August.
So realistically I am not expecting news of any signings fot another 6 weeks or so but hope I am proved wrong.
Returning to the question of Poyet's future I still think he will be here next season but the rumour (rumour only as I write) that McLeish is leaving Villa does raise a small doubt in my mind.

If Gus leaves(which I hope He doesn't) then the playing style will change to suit the next manager.The managergo round has started with the sacking of McLeish with a few others likely even Dalglish isn't safe.