No Bridge but Barnes opens the floodgates for Albion (From The Argus)

Does anyone still think we need strikers?

A run out for the squad, giving Craig, Ashley and Will a bit of a confidence booster. We must remember this was Maidstone though. Sounds as though Gus and Tano might have told the lads to ease off a bit in the last 20 minutes.

Good luck to Maidstone for the new season in the new stadium, we know what it was like to be homeless.

Of course we do!!! It was only Maidstone even I would have probably banged one past them

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

What about Hoskins and Adgestein, or have you released them :)

Interesting to see Barnes starting in midfield and not as an out and out striker. We know he can score goals from there and we know he can defend but can he improve his positional play and can he provide sufficient creative spark? If he can we may not only potentially solve a problem but we could just find ourselves an unexpected gem.

Ricky3 wrote:
Of course we do!!! It was only Maidstone even I would have probably banged one past them

CMS scored against Sunderland.
Barnes scored against Liverpool.
You can only beat, (or otherwise), the team that is put in front of you.

gordongull wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

What about Hoskins and Adgestein, or have you released them :)

These two are not up to Championship standard IMHO.

Hope the Wayne Bridge chat with the doc is not the start of a long term thing?? Aka Vicente last time

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

What about Hoskins and Adgestein, or have you released them :)

These two are not up to Championship standard IMHO.

I'd like to see what a committed and injury-free hoskins can do for us, if that is possible.
Adgestein is not the finished article.
I am hoping that these two players in particular are given opportunities in the pre-season matches.

Glad for Hoskins who so far has had a rather retched time with the Albion. Hopefully his head is focussed on scoring for the Blue & White stripes and not a destination north of the M25

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes,next question.

Good to see CM-S opening the scoring. I have faith in this player, along with Mr Poyet and the rest of the squad of course!
Good luck for the new season lads.

Alfie T wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes,next question.

Do you think that think that £5 million forwards would have fared any better last season, given the same service through the middle, and accuracy from the wings, that the current front men endured?
And do you feel that we are now close to having the personnel who can deliver enough quality opportunities in the final third to double the scoring rate of our current strike-force?

I agree gords, we can only judge them if we get the ball up to them. Hopefully we will get that right this season.

Is this Championship Brighton against Maidstone from The Isthmian League Division One South?? ..... Thought so.

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:
Is this Championship Brighton against Maidstone from The Isthmian League Division One South?? ..... Thought so.

Pre-season friendly - no great significance, but the goals won't do confidence levels any harm.
Have you considered becoming a B&HA supporter yet?
You know it makes sense!

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

What about Hoskins and Adgestein, or have you released them :)

These two are not up to Championship standard IMHO.

Well, that's a stinging criticism of our glorious leader - Will Hoskins was bought for life in the Championship, not Div 1. Having hardly played last season to judge him as an outcast is a tad harsh IMHO. I notice, however, that a certain Ryan Harley didn't get mentioned today in any match day report. Although he was also bought for life in the Championship he is not, IMHO, up to it... Sorry GP.

Calm down dears..... It's a rehearsal..

Don't be fooled chaps. Hoskins was the pick of the strikers today. Sharp, lively, incisive. Hope he's fit and wants to stay. Could have the season we'd all hoped for this time last year. And Bruno and Buckley look like a great pair on the right.

Jonathan Mouette wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

What about Hoskins and Adgestein, or have you released them :)

These two are not up to Championship standard IMHO.

Well, that's a stinging criticism of our glorious leader - Will Hoskins was bought for life in the Championship, not Div 1. Having hardly played last season to judge him as an outcast is a tad harsh IMHO. I notice, however, that a certain Ryan Harley didn't get mentioned today in any match day report. Although he was also bought for life in the Championship he is not, IMHO, up to it... Sorry GP.

Harley is injured, isn't he?

SA Seagull wrote:
Glad for Hoskins who so far has had a rather retched time with the Albion. Hopefully his head is focussed on scoring for the Blue & White stripes and not a destination north of the M25

Yes I agree Hoskins has had raqther a wretched time so far because of his injury saga.
Hopefully a new season will see him fulfilling his potential with us.

The Real Ryfish wrote:

Jonathan Mouette wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

What about Hoskins and Adgestein, or have you released them :)

These two are not up to Championship standard IMHO.

Well, that's a stinging criticism of our glorious leader - Will Hoskins was bought for life in the Championship, not Div 1. Having hardly played last season to judge him as an outcast is a tad harsh IMHO. I notice, however, that a certain Ryan Harley didn't get mentioned today in any match day report. Although he was also bought for life in the Championship he is not, IMHO, up to it... Sorry GP.

Harley is injured, isn't he?

Harley played for the second half so I assume he is as fit as anybody.

ballantrrae wrote:

SA Seagull wrote:
Glad for Hoskins who so far has had a rather retched time with the Albion. Hopefully his head is focussed on scoring for the Blue & White stripes and not a destination north of the M25

Yes I agree Hoskins has had raqther a wretched time so far because of his injury saga.
Hopefully a new season will see him fulfilling his potential with us.

Should read 'rather a wretched time' please forgive the typo.

It's only a game.

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

What about Hoskins and Adgestein, or have you released them :)

These two are not up to Championship standard IMHO.

I think Hoskins has greater ability than both CMS and Barnes.
If he had the engine and attitude of CMS, he would be a Premier league player, maybe he can find those qualities this season.
Agdestein is an improver, he seems to be heading in the right direction and I'm sure he will come through, but maybe not this season.
I would guess Gus is looking for a different type of forward though, a more powerful, physical type I reckon.

gordongull wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes,next question.

Do you think that think that £5 million forwards would have fared any better last season, given the same service through the middle, and accuracy from the wings, that the current front men endured?
And do you feel that we are now close to having the personnel who can deliver enough quality opportunities in the final third to double the scoring rate of our current strike-force?

Yes,next question...

From everything i`ve heard on here and the official BHAFC site all the lads gave a good account of themselves,cant ask for more,it`s all started promising and positive,UTA.

I see Warnock is chasing CMS :
.
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2173689/Ne
il-Warnock-tracking-
Craig-Mackail-Smith.
html

I think whatever happened in the game yesterday the team would struggle to win plaudits. Scrape a win whilst conceding goals or even worse, lose, would have caused derision. Win comfortably without conceding and it the result is dismissed as being down to poor opposition.

Looking at other results in the friendly matches I think this is a good one. You can do no more than they did yesterday and it was interesting that Barnesy should get three. He is certainly a Marmite player and even on this form will continue to be so!!

Re the comment on CMS, Leeds can't afford him unless they sell McCormack and that would only bring in a similar amount to what CMS would cost, before all the add ons (agents fees etc). Not going to happen me thinks!

Three points and a 5-0 goal difference!

On the official site
Quote:- Gus Poyet has told seagulls.co.uk that finding a striker is proving tough but hopes he might be able to add at least one new face this week.

PittaPatta wrote:
I see Warnock is chasing CMS :
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http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2173689/Ne

il-Warnock-tracking-

Craig-Mackail-Smith.

html

But are we not a better option for promotion than Leeds, why would he (a) want to go to Leeds? and (b) Why would we sell one of the best strikers in the division?

farside wrote:
Interesting to see Barnes starting in midfield and not as an out and out striker. We know he can score goals from there and we know he can defend but can he improve his positional play and can he provide sufficient creative spark? If he can we may not only potentially solve a problem but we could just find ourselves an unexpected gem.

If he can stay on his feet against Championship quality teams, I'll agree. It didn't happen last season.

Baldseagull wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:

Zamora25 wrote:

gordongull wrote:
Does anyone still think we need strikers?

Yes because we only have two (Barnes and Mackail-Smith).

What about Hoskins and Adgestein, or have you released them :)

These two are not up to Championship standard IMHO.

I think Hoskins has greater ability than both CMS and Barnes.
If he had the engine and attitude of CMS, he would be a Premier league player, maybe he can find those qualities this season.
Agdestein is an improver, he seems to be heading in the right direction and I'm sure he will come through, but maybe not this season.
I would guess Gus is looking for a different type of forward though, a more powerful, physical type I reckon.

It will be great to see Hoskins fit and fighting for a place, from what little I've seen, including that magical goal at Cardiff, he looks quality. It's hard to blame him for last season, when he never really got fit. I'd love to see Hoskins and CMS starting together, some combination of our flair attacking midfielders with the addition of some grit, and our awesome back 5!

Bruno had a very good game yesterday, looks a great signing.

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
On the official site
Quote:- Gus Poyet has told seagulls.co.uk that finding a striker is proving tough but hopes he might be able to add at least one new face this week.

Poyet might surprise us by bringing in another defender this week before either the midfielder or striker he is on record as wanting. I know people will question this comment but there has been a rumour (Talksport) that the Albion are interested in the young Arsenal CB Miquel.
Given the expense of signing a an appropriate striker (Poyet's words) I suspect that the club are trying to finish the rest of the jigsaw first so that they know exactly how much of the budget is left in order to buy a striker.
The CMS story in the Mail is interesting since that paper's info is always quite close to the mark. If memory serves correctly it was the Mail that first carried the news that we were interested in CMS a year ago.
Of course it is one thing for Warnock being interested in CMS quite another an offer being made. In any event I don't imagine Leeds will progress much business until the new prospective owner situation is resolved one way or the other.
Pleased to see that both Hoskins and Barnes seemed to have good outings and were linking well together - they both made a goal for the other.
I noted that Barnes played as an 'attacking midfielder' and not a striker. If Poyet sees that as Barnes's best position we are going to need more than the one new striker.

ballantrrae wrote:

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
On the official site
Quote:- Gus Poyet has told seagulls.co.uk that finding a striker is proving tough but hopes he might be able to add at least one new face this week.

Poyet might surprise us by bringing in another defender this week before either the midfielder or striker he is on record as wanting. I know people will question this comment but there has been a rumour (Talksport) that the Albion are interested in the young Arsenal CB Miquel.
Given the expense of signing a an appropriate striker (Poyet's words) I suspect that the club are trying to finish the rest of the jigsaw first so that they know exactly how much of the budget is left in order to buy a striker.
The CMS story in the Mail is interesting since that paper's info is always quite close to the mark. If memory serves correctly it was the Mail that first carried the news that we were interested in CMS a year ago.
Of course it is one thing for Warnock being interested in CMS quite another an offer being made. In any event I don't imagine Leeds will progress much business until the new prospective owner situation is resolved one way or the other.
Pleased to see that both Hoskins and Barnes seemed to have good outings and were linking well together - they both made a goal for the other.
I noted that Barnes played as an 'attacking midfielder' and not a striker. If Poyet sees that as Barnes's best position we are going to need more than the one new striker.

Journalist asks: would you be interested inCMS?
Manager: Certainly I'm always interested I good players...
Story done. End of....

ballantrrae wrote:

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
On the official site
Quote:- Gus Poyet has told seagulls.co.uk that finding a striker is proving tough but hopes he might be able to add at least one new face this week.

Poyet might surprise us by bringing in another defender this week before either the midfielder or striker he is on record as wanting. I know people will question this comment but there has been a rumour (Talksport) that the Albion are interested in the young Arsenal CB Miquel.
Given the expense of signing a an appropriate striker (Poyet's words) I suspect that the club are trying to finish the rest of the jigsaw first so that they know exactly how much of the budget is left in order to buy a striker.
The CMS story in the Mail is interesting since that paper's info is always quite close to the mark. If memory serves correctly it was the Mail that first carried the news that we were interested in CMS a year ago.
Of course it is one thing for Warnock being interested in CMS quite another an offer being made. In any event I don't imagine Leeds will progress much business until the new prospective owner situation is resolved one way or the other.
Pleased to see that both Hoskins and Barnes seemed to have good outings and were linking well together - they both made a goal for the other.
I noted that Barnes played as an 'attacking midfielder' and not a striker. If Poyet sees that as Barnes's best position we are going to need more than the one new striker.

The CMS story in the Mail is interesting since that paper's info is always quite close to the mark. If memory serves correctly it was the Mail that first carried the news that we were interested in CMS a year ago.
You are right that they are usually quite close to the mark,if it is a football story it is usually about football.

Just read Berbatov could be available for as little as 5m Poyet if u read this ever get every single penny u have available and put it all down and offer that man a chance to Play for the mighty seagulls!

Jon Terry has gone right up by my estimation.... or should gone be been

http://www.totalfoot
ballmag.com/other-ne
ws/euro-2012/spain-n
o-strikers-allowed/

I found this an interesting article, about Spain and Scotland playing without a conversional striker at all. I think it probably fits in with Gus’s thinking, in which case how many strikers do we need. Moreover is CMS a conventional striker anyway. But Gus does like changing things and different options and a big target man is one he hasn’t got, yet.

Sticky-mess wrote:
Just read Berbatov could be available for as little as 5m Poyet if u read this ever get every single penny u have available and put it all down and offer that man a chance to Play for the mighty seagulls!

Berbatov at £5 million yes, Mighty Seagulls Yes, Berbatov’s wages No.

Haven't looked on here much lately, but I see some of the muppets on NSC who don't see how good Barnes is probably post here too!!

championshipgull wrote:

Sticky-mess wrote:
Just read Berbatov could be available for as little as 5m Poyet if u read this ever get every single penny u have available and put it all down and offer that man a chance to Play for the mighty seagulls!

Berbatov at £5 million yes, Mighty Seagulls Yes, Berbatov’s wages No.

Of course but one can dream ay

Sticky-mess wrote:

championshipgull wrote:

Sticky-mess wrote:
Just read Berbatov could be available for as little as 5m Poyet if u read this ever get every single penny u have available and put it all down and offer that man a chance to Play for the mighty seagulls!

Berbatov at £5 million yes, Mighty Seagulls Yes, Berbatov’s wages No.

Of course but one can dream ay

I am thinking of paying Berbatov’s wages if I win another poker game with a big pot
Shalom Tony

championshipgull wrote:

Sticky-mess wrote:

championshipgull wrote:

Sticky-mess wrote:
Just read Berbatov could be available for as little as 5m Poyet if u read this ever get every single penny u have available and put it all down and offer that man a chance to Play for the mighty seagulls!

Berbatov at £5 million yes, Mighty Seagulls Yes, Berbatov’s wages No.

Of course but one can dream ay

I am thinking of paying Berbatov’s wages if I win another poker game with a big pot
Shalom Tony

If he,Berbatov wants to play football and can convince his agent that football comes first there is no reason why we could not ask him, not his agent, if he wants to play for B&HA even if only for the season on loan. If you don't ask you don't get!!!

Rhodes Seagull wrote:

championshipgull wrote:

Sticky-mess wrote:

championshipgull wrote:

Sticky-mess wrote:
Just read Berbatov could be available for as little as 5m Poyet if u read this ever get every single penny u have available and put it all down and offer that man a chance to Play for the mighty seagulls!

Berbatov at £5 million yes, Mighty Seagulls Yes, Berbatov’s wages No.

Of course but one can dream ay

I am thinking of paying Berbatov’s wages if I win another poker game with a big pot
Shalom Tony

If he,Berbatov wants to play football and can convince his agent that football comes first there is no reason why we could not ask him, not his agent, if he wants to play for B&HA even if only for the season on loan. If you don't ask you don't get!!!

Exactly and how good would that be!

rolivan wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
On the official site
Quote:- Gus Poyet has told seagulls.co.uk that finding a striker is proving tough but hopes he might be able to add at least one new face this week.

Poyet might surprise us by bringing in another defender this week before either the midfielder or striker he is on record as wanting. I know people will question this comment but there has been a rumour (Talksport) that the Albion are interested in the young Arsenal CB Miquel.
Given the expense of signing a an appropriate striker (Poyet's words) I suspect that the club are trying to finish the rest of the jigsaw first so that they know exactly how much of the budget is left in order to buy a striker.
The CMS story in the Mail is interesting since that paper's info is always quite close to the mark. If memory serves correctly it was the Mail that first carried the news that we were interested in CMS a year ago.
Of course it is one thing for Warnock being interested in CMS quite another an offer being made. In any event I don't imagine Leeds will progress much business until the new prospective owner situation is resolved one way or the other.
Pleased to see that both Hoskins and Barnes seemed to have good outings and were linking well together - they both made a goal for the other.
I noted that Barnes played as an 'attacking midfielder' and not a striker. If Poyet sees that as Barnes's best position we are going to need more than the one new striker.

The CMS story in the Mail is interesting since that paper's info is always quite close to the mark. If memory serves correctly it was the Mail that first carried the news that we were interested in CMS a year ago.
You are right that they are usually quite close to the mark,if it is a football story it is usually about football.

Touche Rolivan !
Of course I was referring to the Mail picking up on stories before others.
Interesting to see that the Mirror is now running a similar story saying that Leeds want to swap McCormack with CMS.
I don't know how much substance is behind these reports and most probably nothing will actually happen.