CMS can win his place back (From The Argus)

I no he probably wanted to play for his country but to be honest I would rather he save the energy for playing for us and banging in the goals.

Part of me says it's a shame CMS didn't get the call up but then again I'm a selfish git and a call up would, in the first place, put him back in the shop window - and secondly he would be deprived of valuable training time with the new Albion recruits, far more important in my eyes. I hope the reported 48 hour trip to LA of WB doesn't leave him too jet-lagged to give his usual 100% next week. It must be very confusing playing Wednesday on a Friday when he probably has a certain Saturday on his mind. It's done my head in already!

And there's always an injury concern too!

Scotland's loss is most certainly our gain in this case. Thank you Mr Levein.
I'm so very excited by the new arrivals and the retention of our top players. I've been thinking about how the line up might look and am think a 4-5-1 might be the way.

Kuz

Bruno. Greer. El abd. Bridge

Bridcutt. Hammond

Buckley. Orlandi

Dobbie

CMS

Subs bench

Barnes, Lopez, Lua Lua, Dicker, Dunk, Brez and Calderon.

I'm assuming both Vicente and Crofts are injured.

Thoughts??

SMF20 wrote:
Scotland's loss is most certainly our gain in this case. Thank you Mr Levein.
I'm so very excited by the new arrivals and the retention of our top players. I've been thinking about how the line up might look and am think a 4-5-1 might be the way.

Kuz

Bruno. Greer. El abd. Bridge

Bridcutt. Hammond

Buckley. Orlandi

Dobbie

CMS

Subs bench

Barnes, Lopez, Lua Lua, Dicker, Dunk, Brez and Calderon.

I'm assuming both Vicente and Crofts are injured.

Thoughts??

Your thoughts are a liitle hard on Barnes who has been playing well and gave just about his best performance in the Barnsley game.
I suspect Poyet will start with Dicker with Orlandi on the bench. I am also not sure whether Buckley will be fit enough to start so LuaLua might.
The other factor worth considering would be any loan signings between now and midday next Thursday (in time for the Wednesday game). Poyet might finally land the elusive target man he says he still wants - although after more than 12 months of searching I will believe it when I see someone actually signed. Incidently I see Tuncay is still looking for a club.
Fortunately these decisions are Poyet's not ours.

I follow your thoughts exactly. Perhaps we are going to flood the midfield with five players, but then how can we not play Barnes? I know theres a lot of haters out there but I think he has come on leaps and bounds since playing in the Championship.

Also with the arrival of Dobbie, will this mark the end of Hoskins who is supposed to be back very soon.

Whatever happens we have a ruddy good team on paper!! Almost Premier League standard

SMF20 wrote:
Scotland's loss is most certainly our gain in this case. Thank you Mr Levein.
I'm so very excited by the new arrivals and the retention of our top players. I've been thinking about how the line up might look and am think a 4-5-1 might be the way.

Kuz

Bruno. Greer. El abd. Bridge

Bridcutt. Hammond

Buckley. Orlandi

Dobbie

CMS

Subs bench

Barnes, Lopez, Lua Lua, Dicker, Dunk, Brez and Calderon.

I'm assuming both Vicente and Crofts are injured.

Thoughts??

I'm genuinely interested to know why so many people are placing Orlandi straight into their team. I know next to nothing about him, but is he really a better bet to start than Barnes (one of Gus's favourites) or Lopez?

Brez is getting his games in the development squad so Anks is doing the bench work to make sure all our keepers are involved in the working setup in some shape or form.

One things for sure.. No matter who plays, we look incredibly strong. Uta

SMF20 wrote:
Scotland's loss is most certainly our gain in this case. Thank you Mr Levein.
I'm so very excited by the new arrivals and the retention of our top players. I've been thinking about how the line up might look and am think a 4-5-1 might be the way.

Kuz

Bruno. Greer. El abd. Bridge

Bridcutt. Hammond

Buckley. Orlandi

Dobbie

CMS

Subs bench

Barnes, Lopez, Lua Lua, Dicker, Dunk, Brez and Calderon.

I'm assuming both Vicente and Crofts are injured.

Thoughts??

I think you virtually have it. Might be a tad harsh on Barnes, who I am still not sure about but he has a habit of making me rethink that he might make it. Unless we are all reading the tea leaves wrong, this squad on paper looks the best in the championship.

Like your team SMF20. Will be intrigued to see Lopez as I think in time he'll hold down a place.

Exciting times!

I think Lopez will be the surprise of the window! You don't get purchased for €6,000,000 (albeit 5 years ago) without being a very good player. Think he will be in the same bracket as Vicente, Bruno, Bridge and a cut above most others!

We are now in the situation where whichever players get onto the pitch, the bench will be equally as strong and I for one think exciting times ahead.

UTA

I too like your team SMF20 and also agree that we look extremely strong on paper. Barnes' finish for his second against Barnsley was Premier League class let alone Championship so think he would be very hard to drop at the moment. The interesting one is Lopez - the guy has played nearly 200 games in La Liga and played in a Uefa cup final, and could be sitting on our bench. Can't see him not playing a major role this season but then who do you leave out? Heady days indeed.

TK (GK)

SB (RB) AE(CB) GG(CB) WB (LB

LB (DM) AC(DM)

WB(RM) AO (LM)
SD(AM)

CMS (ST)

All this equates to...

THE MAC ATTACK!!!

Lopez certainly is a tricky one but then why just the 1 year deal? In Gus I trust. UTA.

Hi, Don't no if it has been mentioned in previous posting but there is an article on Sky about Anthony Philip David Terry Frank Donald Stanley Gerry Gordon Stephen James Oatway

Now there was a player!!!!!!!!!

So hard to guess who starts and who doesn't, not sure that you can leave Lua Lua out of it, Barnes, if he doesn't start he surely will get on in the second half, maybe as a sub for CMS if we have a two goal lead. It could be that he and Dobbie share the match.

Lopez on a one year deal, maybe that's all the guy wanted, maybe he renews it in january when our promotion hopes will be better known.

SMF20 assumes that Vicente is still injured, and I guess he must be, maybe we will hear something about that soon.

Brighton are close to having two teams, we are not quite there but if you consider the talent in the development squad, we are looking very strong. If we played our best eleven against our other eleven, it would be one heck of a game to watch.

VegasSeagull wrote:
So hard to guess who starts and who doesn't, not sure that you can leave Lua Lua out of it, Barnes, if he doesn't start he surely will get on in the second half, maybe as a sub for CMS if we have a two goal lead. It could be that he and Dobbie share the match.

Lopez on a one year deal, maybe that's all the guy wanted, maybe he renews it in january when our promotion hopes will be better known.

SMF20 assumes that Vicente is still injured, and I guess he must be, maybe we will hear something about that soon.

Brighton are close to having two teams, we are not quite there but if you consider the talent in the development squad, we are looking very strong. If we played our best eleven against our other eleven, it would be one heck of a game to watch.

I like the 2 team thought. I guess it would look something like this using the team I posted above against the rest.
Kuz v Ank
Bruno v Calderon
Greer v Dunk
El Abd v Samparo
Bridge v Painter
Buckley v Lopez
Bridcutt v Dicker
Hammond v Crofts
Orlandi v Lua Lua
Dobbie v Vicente
Cms v Barnes

Wow, when I see the quality on both sides it certainly fills me with optimism. Uta

SMF20


And you could have one or two subs too.

Agdestein - Barker - Akbuine and Richards.
We also have two assets out on loan..

It might be that Gus has been keeping an eye on those that stand a good chance of being selected for their country, he might have even considered it when considering who to buy.

If he can get his desired center back, and if you add in the new guys, we have our international players covered.

Gus has brought in players who have international experience and quality but are unlikely to be called up again. It's probabaly impossible to have a promotion quality team and not have one or two that will get the call, you know that when you sign them, but it is those that you,sign to back up these players that is important.

We have a mix of young lads wanting to become good enough for their country, those that are there now and those that have been there, done that and got the shirt to prove it. The atmosphere within the squad must be amazing.

,

So let's do Chelsea a favour and take Malouda off their hands for the rest of the year in a deal similar to that of Bridge.

Malouda will be spending the rest of the year with Chelsea's youth team, and he will pick up 80k a week for doing so, that is not good for the player or the club.

We might not need another midfield player but I think we could find a space for him.

If I am Malouda and I have the choice of trotting out on the training field with the youth team or playing for Brighton, I think I know which I would choose.

If I am the guy signing the checks at Chelsea and I get an offer that would wipe out 10k a week, I am going to take it.

Make the call Gus, get the deal done.

Spurs are looking for a home for Jermaine Jenus (spell check Jenus) for the rest of the year, how about Brighton making the offer.

I guess some would say that we have three good strikers and one decent back up, some might say that we have two good strikers and decent two backups.

Jenus will come to the Championship, and just like Dobbie, we either have him scoring for us or potentialy scoring against us.

Make the call Gus, get the deal done..

Please no more midfielders!! (Unless of course the likes of Ronaldo or Messi turn up) We need a striker on loan someone like Ameobi and a centre back like Jonathan Woodgate. We have enough midfielders now

markymark03 wrote:
Please no more midfielders!! (Unless of course the likes of Ronaldo or Messi turn up) We need a striker on loan someone like Ameobi and a centre back like Jonathan Woodgate. We have enough midfielders now

Yes, agreed - I think we are well staffed in midfield. Woodgate unfortunately always seems to have injury problems that have interrupted what should have been an outstanding career.

SMF20 wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
So hard to guess who starts and who doesn't, not sure that you can leave Lua Lua out of it, Barnes, if he doesn't start he surely will get on in the second half, maybe as a sub for CMS if we have a two goal lead. It could be that he and Dobbie share the match.

Lopez on a one year deal, maybe that's all the guy wanted, maybe he renews it in january when our promotion hopes will be better known.

SMF20 assumes that Vicente is still injured, and I guess he must be, maybe we will hear something about that soon.

Brighton are close to having two teams, we are not quite there but if you consider the talent in the development squad, we are looking very strong. If we played our best eleven against our other eleven, it would be one heck of a game to watch.

I like the 2 team thought. I guess it would look something like this using the team I posted above against the rest.
Kuz v Ank
Bruno v Calderon
Greer v Dunk
El Abd v Samparo
Bridge v Painter
Buckley v Lopez
Bridcutt v Dicker
Hammond v Crofts
Orlandi v Lua Lua
Dobbie v Vicente
Cms v Barnes

Wow, when I see the quality on both sides it certainly fills me with optimism. Uta

You all forgot about super Harley

Wiseman of Hove.

Yes we have an abundance of midfield players but compare Malouda with Dicker or Harley, would you really not see him (Malouda) as a a better option?

I like Dicker and I like Harley but in all honesty Malouda is a step up from both of them.

'Greer reckons Albion can put the international break to good use as their reinforced squad – with four recent signings – prepare to face The Owls.'

As Gordon Greer points out, a good oppportunity to integrate the new players before a competetive match is played.
Has Gus watched any of the new recruits play? Or has he relied on the opinions of scouts and contacts to assess if they are right for the team.
The reason I ask, is that one of the promotion favourites Blackburn Rovers made three deadline day signings who the Manager has never watched. Steve Kean said, ''They're in the club now and we can have a real look at them. I've not seen them play live.''
The players were 'recommended' by Blackburn,s 'Global Advisor' Shebby Singh, a former Malaysian International, who has been appointed by Venkys to 'do whatever he has to do to win promotion'. They have signed twelve new players including six from Portugal, and £8 million Jordan Rhodes, (who has never scored a goal at higher than League 1 level). Three years ago, the going rate for for the 1st division's top scorer was £1 million, (Rickie Lambert).
Blackburn could be poised to take the Championship by storm, but I like to think that B&HA have a more co-ordinated policy for acquiring players. Can you imagine Gus being asked to build a promotion side, while having no involvement in which players it will consist of?
It could be argued that Blackburn have more need for the International break than most.

gordongull wrote:
'Greer reckons Albion can put the international break to good use as their reinforced squad – with four recent signings – prepare to face The Owls.'

As Gordon Greer points out, a good oppportunity to integrate the new players before a competetive match is played.
Has Gus watched any of the new recruits play? Or has he relied on the opinions of scouts and contacts to assess if they are right for the team.
The reason I ask, is that one of the promotion favourites Blackburn Rovers made three deadline day signings who the Manager has never watched. Steve Kean said, ''They're in the club now and we can have a real look at them. I've not seen them play live.''
The players were 'recommended' by Blackburn,s 'Global Advisor' Shebby Singh, a former Malaysian International, who has been appointed by Venkys to 'do whatever he has to do to win promotion'. They have signed twelve new players including six from Portugal, and £8 million Jordan Rhodes, (who has never scored a goal at higher than League 1 level). Three years ago, the going rate for for the 1st division's top scorer was £1 million, (Rickie Lambert).
Blackburn could be poised to take the Championship by storm, but I like to think that B&HA have a more co-ordinated policy for acquiring players. Can you imagine Gus being asked to build a promotion side, while having no involvement in which players it will consist of?
It could be argued that Blackburn have more need for the International break than most.

Absolutely right. Rovers are a disgrace, just ask any Blackburn supporter. Although I have some sympathy for the way Kean has been treated, I wonder at what stage he'll be" man enough" (hate that term, but can't think of anything more appropriate) to walk away.

Gordongull.


I read that story about the Rovers signings and I have to say I was amazed by it.
How can a manager sign so many players that he has not seen play live and maybe had nothing to do with their selection as new signings. Three players of an unknown qualitity to the manager is crazy.

It might be that Gus could, or already has, sign a player that he didn't see play live recently, Lopez might be one, but I doubt that he has never seen him play.

We (the fans) have no idea as to how long our club have been considering any of our new players, for all we know we might have been tracking them during last year.

The sad thing is, if Rovers don't have a good season, and who knows what they will consider a good season, the manager will be sacked, he will be the fall guy.

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Promotion is the only option, Vegas.
Money has been invested, and Steve Kean has to deliver.
Who would take the job if it all goes pear-shaped?
Paul Hart might be up for it.

Too many Harveys wrote:
I too like your team SMF20 and also agree that we look extremely strong on paper. Barnes' finish for his second against Barnsley was Premier League class let alone Championship so think he would be very hard to drop at the moment. The interesting one is Lopez - the guy has played nearly 200 games in La Liga and played in a Uefa cup final, and could be sitting on our bench. Can't see him not playing a major role this season but then who do you leave out? Heady days indeed.

Yes I agree with this and think SMF may indeed have the team nailed, although either of Dobbie or CMS are interchangeable with Ash.

Lopez is pure class - it's just about how (match) fit he is or at least will be. Looking ahead to the season as a whole the Spaniard will surely figure very strongly.

Come on the Argus, as much as I love CMS, there must be more interesting stories than this, how about the new lads and their views on the stadium,team mates,personal ambitions etc...

Alfie T wrote:
Come on the Argus, as much as I love CMS, there must be more interesting stories than this, how about the new lads and their views on the stadium,team mates,personal ambitions etc...

They think the stadium is great. They are enjoying training with their new colleagues, and they want to help the club to gain promotion to the Premier League.
Didn't even need an interview!

SMF20 wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: So hard to guess who starts and who doesn't, not sure that you can leave Lua Lua out of it, Barnes, if he doesn't start he surely will get on in the second half, maybe as a sub for CMS if we have a two goal lead. It could be that he and Dobbie share the match. Lopez on a one year deal, maybe that's all the guy wanted, maybe he renews it in january when our promotion hopes will be better known. SMF20 assumes that Vicente is still injured, and I guess he must be, maybe we will hear something about that soon. Brighton are close to having two teams, we are not quite there but if you consider the talent in the development squad, we are looking very strong. If we played our best eleven against our other eleven, it would be one heck of a game to watch.

I like the 2 team thought. I guess it would look something like this using the team I posted above against the rest. Kuz v Ank Bruno v Calderon Greer v Dunk El Abd v Samparo Bridge v Painter Buckley v Lopez Bridcutt v Dicker Hammond v Crofts Orlandi v Lua Lua Dobbie v Vicente Cms v Barnes Wow, when I see the quality on both sides it certainly fills me with optimism. Uta

Oh now that reads very nicely, I must say!

*drool*

wiseman of hove wrote:

markymark03 wrote: Please no more midfielders!! (Unless of course the likes of Ronaldo or Messi turn up) We need a striker on loan someone like Ameobi and a centre back like Jonathan Woodgate. We have enough midfielders now

Yes, agreed - I think we are well staffed in midfield. Woodgate unfortunately always seems to have injury problems that have interrupted what should have been an outstanding career.

And he signed for Boro this summer!

Also, to Vegas Seagull: Jenas is a midfielder not striker! We have enough midfielders now I believe.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Wiseman of Hove. Yes we have an abundance of midfield players but compare Malouda with Dicker or Harley, would you really not see him (Malouda) as a a better option? I like Dicker and I like Harley but in all honesty Malouda is a step up from both of them.

But at £10k pw when we need to keep funds aside for a target man and CB?

gordongull wrote:

Alfie T wrote:
Come on the Argus, as much as I love CMS, there must be more interesting stories than this, how about the new lads and their views on the stadium,team mates,personal ambitions etc...

They think the stadium is great. They are enjoying training with their new colleagues, and they want to help the club to gain promotion to the Premier League.
Didn't even need an interview!

Never have liked you.

In the loan window What about malouda oxdale chamberlain jenas George Boyd or Fraizer campbell or do you Gus has got some more spanish players as surprises for us. Perhaps we need an italian like andrea Pirlo could do a Job. Anyway now only 8 days to we beat Sheffield Wednesday 3 nil and go top. Happy days . Seagulls !!!!

VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20


And you could have one or two subs too.

Agdestein - Barker - Akbuine and Richards.
We also have two assets out on loan..

Actually its three players out on loan - JFC, Kasim and Bergkamp.

gordongull wrote:
'Greer reckons Albion can put the international break to good use as their reinforced squad – with four recent signings – prepare to face The Owls.' As Gordon Greer points out, a good oppportunity to integrate the new players before a competetive match is played. Has Gus watched any of the new recruits play? Or has he relied on the opinions of scouts and contacts to assess if they are right for the team. The reason I ask, is that one of the promotion favourites Blackburn Rovers made three deadline day signings who the Manager has never watched. Steve Kean said, ''They're in the club now and we can have a real look at them. I've not seen them play live.'' The players were 'recommended' by Blackburn,s 'Global Advisor' Shebby Singh, a former Malaysian International, who has been appointed by Venkys to 'do whatever he has to do to win promotion'. They have signed twelve new players including six from Portugal, and £8 million Jordan Rhodes, (who has never scored a goal at higher than League 1 level). Three years ago, the going rate for for the 1st division's top scorer was £1 million, (Rickie Lambert). Blackburn could be poised to take the Championship by storm, but I like to think that B&HA have a more co-ordinated policy for acquiring players. Can you imagine Gus being asked to build a promotion side, while having no involvement in which players it will consist of? It could be argued that Blackburn have more need for the International break than most.

In their particular case a clean break from their "international owners" is in order!

They are slightly comical.

Captain Haddock.

You are perfectly correct, Jermaine is a midfield player and not a striker, I have been checking out several players today and got him mixed up with another.

Gus don't make the call.

paul the hill wrote:
In the loan window What about malouda oxdale chamberlain jenas George Boyd or Fraizer campbell or do you Gus has got some more spanish players as surprises for us. Perhaps we need an italian like andrea Pirlo could do a Job. Anyway now only 8 days to we beat Sheffield Wednesday 3 nil and go top. Happy days . Seagulls !!!!

Have you been drinking, Paul?!

Oxo Chamberpot is a first teamed at Arsesnail and Pirlo wouldn't come. He's just been starring In the latter stages of a Euros tournament!

VegasSeagull wrote:
Captain Haddock.

You are perfectly correct, Jermaine is a midfield player and not a striker, I have been checking out several players today and got him mixed up with another.

Gus don't make the call.

....unless you swing the converstaion to the subject of Jermain Defoe instead, Gustavo!

;0)

Ballantrrae.

Recalling what Gus said about Bergkmp I go tthe impression that he didn't quite make the grade with us, hence the move away.

Captain Haddock.

Yes 10K a week is a lot to spend, and yes we may well need that money to pay for the center back and target man but, I am in the minority that think Vicente will leave by mutual agreement and we will have him money to spend.
I also think that even if Vicente does not leave, the club would find the money for a player like Malouda. .

With CMS back to his scoring ways, and I firmly believe that goals breed goals, add to him the fire power we have always had and throw Dobbie into the mix, do we really need a target man. Bridge and Greer have both found the back of the net this season.

Before we bought who we bought I could see the need, CMS looked like he needed a hold up player to work with but now, I think it becomes a question to think about.

The extra center back is right, we are a tad light as far as cover goes.
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Is it just me or is anyone else having probs with the quote button, it's not owrking for me.

VegasSeagull wrote:
With CMS back to his scoring ways, and I firmly believe that goals breed goals, add to him the fire power we have always had and throw Dobbie into the mix, do we really need a target man. Bridge and Greer have both found the back of the net this season.

Before we bought who we bought I could see the need, CMS looked like he needed a hold up player to work with but now, I think it becomes a question to think about.

The extra center back is right, we are a tad light as far as cover goes.
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Agreed, centre back cover is needed, the Arsenal boy is still being linked with us. As for a target man, I don't think our style needs that type of player. Now Craig has found his form teams will be preoccupied trying to keep him quiet. Dobbie,Barnes,Buckle
y,Hammond,Vicente, we have goal threats throughout this side, a big target man, don't think so.

Target man is for a long or direct ball style of play, so a plan B for BHA. I think with the new signings we don't need a target man as we should be able to play with the ball at our feet around the opponents box and our plan B is to bring quality on from the bench (which we now have) if our first 11 can't break a side down.
Like said before we are a little light on CB's and I think we should be looking for a loan signing here.

With Hammonds extra firepower from midfield, I am also not convinced we need a traditional CF type, if the wingers get up the flanks and pop a cross in for CMS or Hammond to score.

Or as Richard Geere says according to Johnny Bryne of Sussex Sport .ha ha.