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Kaz will be flying again
9:00am Saturday 8th September 2012 in Sport By Brian Owen
Albion expect Kazenga Lualua to be flying in training on Monday – despite undergoing surgery in Germany this week.
The winger has had a metal plate removed from his ankle during the international break.
Now Gus Poyet wants to see him on form again in the build-up to Friday’s predicted sell-out at home to Sheffield Wednesday.
LuaLua went under the knife as soon as possible after his starring role in last Saturday’s 3-1 win at Burnley.
He had metalwork which was inserted after he broke his ankle at Hartlepool almost two years ago removed.
Poyet said: “He had a small metal plate in there and they recommend you get it taken out after a while.
“It only takes four or five days of procedure including rest so we decided to do it this week so he can come back to training on Monday “In pre-season he had a few days out of action, he got a kick at Lewes in the area of the plate.
“He has had things like that but nothing serious.
“He has had about three days to recover.
“We just need to make sure he is fully recovered for Monday.”
LuaLua started at Turf Moor after Craig Noone’s sudden departure for Cardiff.
However Will Buckley’s bright showing off the bench plus the arrival of wide players David Lopez and Andrea Orlandi mean competition on the wings is now red hot again.
Poyet added: “Kaz had his chance after Nooney left ad he did very well “But everyone was already seeing that during the week before the game.
“I hope there are no setbacks from this little what we would call intervention.”
Albion’s players return to work on Monday after a weekend off.
Goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak remained on the bench for Poland in their World Cup qualifier in Montenegro last night.
As expected, Przemyslaw Tyton got the nod in Podgorica.
Adam El-Abd and Egypt play Cameroon in a friendly in Alexandria on Tuesday.
Comments(53)
dave from bexill
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9:19am Sat 8 Sep 12
PittaPatta
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9:32am Sat 8 Sep 12
Captain Haddock wrote:Due to Kaz's improvement under Gus, I dare say that the plate had an 'L' on it after removal. He put in an 'ell of a performance against Burnley anyway :-)
Wonder if AEA will start the friendly on Tues AND our fixture on Friday?
Interesting to hear about Kaz's plate removal. Makes sense I guess and we have cover for the Sheff Weds match if he needs more rest than anticipated.
Lawro woz God
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10:18am Sat 8 Sep 12
SamDaly1111
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1:15pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite
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1:18pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite
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1:26pm Sat 8 Sep 12
dave from bexill
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1:53pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite wrote:Me neither. Always strikes me as one of those players who's never quite lived up to his potential on a regular basis.
I wouldn't say no to Kenwyne Jones.
Hope Kaz is fine and rearing to go soon. He's another of those bums off seats players and at his best is impossible to play agains
VegasSeagull
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1:59pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite wrote:I have just looked at his stats and for the last two seasons Jones has zero assists, I find that odd.
I wouldn't say no to Kenwyne Jones.
Wouldn't you think that at least once in two seasons he would have laid a ball off for someone to score from. A total for the last two years of 62 appearances and not one assist.
He has scored 18 goals from a total of 142 shots during the same period, of which 47 were on target.
I think these are the sort of stats one might expect from alone striker, rather than a player who would hold the ball and set up fellow striker.
Maybe Gus is looking for a lone striker, perhaps that's the role of thetarget man but I thought he wanted someone to link up with CMS so that he could use his pace.
I am not knocking the guy, I just didn't see in the stats what I expected to see.
.
dave from bexill
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2:13pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite
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2:15pm Sat 8 Sep 12
http://www.soccerbas
e.com/players/player
.sd?player_id=38455
VegasSeagull
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2:54pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite wrote:The stats I am looking at can be found at ESPN FC.
I don't know what stats your looking at; http://www.soccerbas e.com/players/player .sd?player_id=38455
http://soccornet.esp
n.go.com/
player/_/id/42600/ke
nwyne-jones?cc=5901
I hope I have that right, I think I have.
VegasSeagull
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2:59pm Sat 8 Sep 12
VegasSeagull wrote:Is a web site going to make me look a fool or have I managed that all by myself.
Hovite wrote: I don't know what stats your looking at; http://www.soccerbas e.com/players/player .sd?player_id=38455The stats I am looking at can be found at ESPN FC. http://soccornet.esp n.go.com/ player/_/id/42600/ke nwyne-jones?cc=5901 I hope I have that right, I think I have.
:-))
VegasSeagull
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3:04pm Sat 8 Sep 12
dave from bexill wrote:I don't know what is happening here. Hovite has different stats to those I am looking at and you have him playing for Cardiff at some point and the stats I am looking at don't. They do have him playing for Southampton and Sunderland, and his international matches.
Interesting points Vegas. Was highly rated at Cardiff as I recall and started well at Sunderland until losing his way. Seems to have been a similar story at Stoke. Gus might just be the guy to help him get his game back again. That's ofcourse Gus fancies him and the wages
Am I looking at a different Kenwyne Jones.or am I going crazy.
VegasSeagull
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3:07pm Sat 8 Sep 12
VegasSeagull wrote:Add Sheffield Wednesday to hi slist of clubs.
dave from bexill wrote: Interesting points Vegas. Was highly rated at Cardiff as I recall and started well at Sunderland until losing his way. Seems to have been a similar story at Stoke. Gus might just be the guy to help him get his game back again. That's ofcourse Gus fancies him and the wagesI don't know what is happening here. Hovite has different stats to those I am looking at and you have him playing for Cardiff at some point and the stats I am looking at don't. They do have him playing for Southampton and Sunderland, and his international matches. Am I looking at a different Kenwyne Jones.or am I going crazy.
Hovite
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3:25pm Sat 8 Sep 12
He would do really well in this division and relaunch his career with us.
VegasSeagull
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3:25pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite wrote:Hi Hovite.
I don't know what stats your looking at; http://www.soccerbas e.com/players/player .sd?player_id=38455
I looked at the site you supplied and I don't see that it shows any stats for assists.
Did you have the time to look at the ESPN data that I found?
VegasSeagull
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3:35pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite wrote:You could be right about him getting a fresh start and relaunching his career, Gus does seem to get the best out of players.
In anycase, forget the stats, he hasn't played that much for Stoke other than from the bench, since Crouch joined the club. He would do really well in this division and relaunch his career with us.
So would you see him playing as a loan striker with CMS playing in the slot between him and the midfield, or as a twin striker in a 4-4-2 formation?
ballantrrae
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3:46pm Sat 8 Sep 12
VegasSeagull wrote:VegasSeagull, I think you need to make some allowance for the fact he (Kenwyne Jones) plays for Stoke (written with apologies to Andy Naylor).
Hovite wrote:I have just looked at his stats and for the last two seasons Jones has zero assists, I find that odd.
I wouldn't say no to Kenwyne Jones.
Wouldn't you think that at least once in two seasons he would have laid a ball off for someone to score from. A total for the last two years of 62 appearances and not one assist.
He has scored 18 goals from a total of 142 shots during the same period, of which 47 were on target.
I think these are the sort of stats one might expect from alone striker, rather than a player who would hold the ball and set up fellow striker.
Maybe Gus is looking for a lone striker, perhaps that's the role of thetarget man but I thought he wanted someone to link up with CMS so that he could use his pace.
I am not knocking the guy, I just didn't see in the stats what I expected to see.
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Might be worth having on loan with option to buy possibly.
Lets hope LuaLua's recovery proceeds on schedule.
Suffering from withdrawal symptoms with no match this weekend.
paul the hill
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4:06pm Sat 8 Sep 12
dave from bexill
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4:25pm Sat 8 Sep 12
VegasSeagull wrote:Sorry Vegas, I meant to say Southampton, not Cardiff. Well they nearly sound the same! Must be all the non footy activity at the moment.
dave from bexill wrote:I don't know what is happening here. Hovite has different stats to those I am looking at and you have him playing for Cardiff at some point and the stats I am looking at don't. They do have him playing for Southampton and Sunderland, and his international matches.
Interesting points Vegas. Was highly rated at Cardiff as I recall and started well at Sunderland until losing his way. Seems to have been a similar story at Stoke. Gus might just be the guy to help him get his game back again. That's ofcourse Gus fancies him and the wages
Am I looking at a different Kenwyne Jones.or am I going crazy.
VegasSeagull
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5:23pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Yeah I get your point about playing for Stoke but if you look at his career dating back to 04/05 season and not counting this season, the figures suggest a loan wolf player, and that might be more his doing than the clubs he has played for.
225 games started added to the 61 times he came on as a sub, taking in all matches to include internationals, he only has 24 assists.
Stoke maybe use him in a way where he will not be able to assist but have all his clubs done that?
I have often wondered whether Kazenga could be converted to a strikers role from his wide player role he has now.
He has control of the ball when running at speed and he is tricky in close quarters. He is strong and has a powerful shot. We have seen him go past players with ease out wide and I htink that maybe he could do it as a striker. Can you imagine his speed next to that of CMS.
Hovite
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9:02pm Sat 8 Sep 12
VegasSeagull wrote:Just an extra option, we haven't got a tall headerer of the ball. Depends who we are playing, where we are in the game, who needs a rest and who is injured.
Hovite wrote:You could be right about him getting a fresh start and relaunching his career, Gus does seem to get the best out of players.
In anycase, forget the stats, he hasn't played that much for Stoke other than from the bench, since Crouch joined the club. He would do really well in this division and relaunch his career with us.
So would you see him playing as a loan striker with CMS playing in the slot between him and the midfield, or as a twin striker in a 4-4-2 formation?
PressBoxTeaBoy
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10:03pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Anyone got a story to tell ?
Hovite
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10:29pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Once upon a time, many moons away, in a far off land, all the trolls were happily wasting their already miserable lives predicting failure and misfortune on all that is BHA. The trolls trolled until they could troll no more as we fought them under bridges and bashed them back into the sewers to where they had all once come.
Truth and integrity will always prevail in this once fought war, yet I am sure there will be a many new battles ahead.
I say to you, I say to us, I say to everyone; bash the ugly trolls head when they pop up, and bash em back down into the sewer, their battle will always be lost, it will always be in vain and we will always live happily ever after............
Hovite
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10:30pm Sat 8 Sep 12
VegasSeagull
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10:47pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Hovite
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10:51pm Sat 8 Sep 12
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VegasSeagull
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10:58pm Sat 8 Sep 12
IRISHGULL
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11:37pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Captain Haddock
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1:53am Sun 9 Sep 12
IRISHGULL wrote:Yup. Levein needs to wake up and smell the coffee.
anybody think CMS could have done a better job than kenny miller today?
CMS and Rhodes are both better than Miller and Mackie's off form.
Captain Haddock
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1:54am Sun 9 Sep 12
Interesting!
Captain Haddock
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1:55am Sun 9 Sep 12
PittaPatta wrote:Haha. He did indeed.
Captain Haddock wrote:Due to Kaz's improvement under Gus, I dare say that the plate had an 'L' on it after removal. He put in an 'ell of a performance against Burnley anyway :-)
Wonder if AEA will start the friendly on Tues AND our fixture on Friday?
Interesting to hear about Kaz's plate removal. Makes sense I guess and we have cover for the Sheff Weds match if he needs more rest than anticipated.
Alfie T
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9:15am Sun 9 Sep 12
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:Agree, let's hope the Argus can ramp up their efforts in the build up to Friday.
One story/article per day........making an already boring footie week even more boring.
Anyone got a story to tell ?
SHIPPERS4
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10:25am Sun 9 Sep 12
paul the hill wrote:Malouda to Brighton, I don't think so, there will be a que of mid table to bottom prem clubs before Brighton. He will want to win his international place back, and the french side will want players playing in the top Div's.
Loan window open so wonde If theloan players will sign in time for the players returning to training on Monday. So would kenwyne jones and Arismendi on loan from Stoke or Malouda from Chelsea be of use to us or dies Gus have some big surprises fir us . Anyway only 6 days to beating Sheffield Wednesday 3 nil and going top of the league. All together to start the chant we are top of the league we are top of league etc . Can't wait . Seagulls!!!!
We have enough strength and depth in that position now in our squad anyway.
Yogi
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10:47am Sun 9 Sep 12
tug509
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10:47am Sun 9 Sep 12
Captain Haddock wrote:Levein seems to be a very stubborn man,the Fletcher scenario proves he is willing to cut of his nose to spite his face,i think CMS and Rhodes would take a lot of pressure of the midfield by causing the oppositions defence a serious headache.Great to see Kaz on the mend,hopefully in the squad for fridays game,if those who`s name must not be spoken can beat SW 2-1,we should have a good night.Hope the Kenwyne Jones rumour has some legs.Hovite love the Fairytale,do you know the one about the evil palace which is home to all the worlds freaks and outcasts!!UTA
IRISHGULL wrote:Yup. Levein needs to wake up and smell the coffee.
anybody think CMS could have done a better job than kenny miller today?
CMS and Rhodes are both better than Miller and Mackie's off form.
Hovite
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11:00am Sun 9 Sep 12
VegasSeagull
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11:26am Sun 9 Sep 12
It wasn't the heat keeping him awake, he was used to that, no there was something on his mind, something he couldn't find the answer to.
Does anyone know exactly why a section of the Brighton fans hate Crystal Palace.
When did this hatred start, what caused it and why has it lingered for so long.
Hovite
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11:50am Sun 9 Sep 12
VegasSeagull
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12:05pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Yeah I remember that and as you say that did bring things to a head, but the bad feelings between the supporters pre-dates that tackle, so what was it. ,
I thought it might be location, local derby and all, but other clubs are near to us and the same hatred doesn't exist with those clubs.
Hovite
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12:14pm Sun 9 Sep 12
co.uk/football/footb
all-league-blog/2011
/sep/27/brighton-cry
stal-palace-rivalry
paul the hill
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12:23pm Sun 9 Sep 12
VegasSeagull
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12:23pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Brighton don't like Palace and Palace don't like Brighton, they don't need a reason it's just the way it is.
Everton and Liverpool are prime examples of, 'rivalry, but the hatred doesn't exist as it does between Brighton and Palace. City and United, another example. For these four teams it's clearly a matter of location but for us it isn't.
I think this topic would make a really interesting book, pick out the biggest rivalries that exist in football and research the reason for them, trace it back as far as it goes.
Hovite
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12:46pm Sun 9 Sep 12
paul the hill wrote:sign him
Been watching the football 7 a side GB team at Paralympics and Diallo looks a very talented footballer
paul the hill
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12:48pm Sun 9 Sep 12
VegasSeagull
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12:57pm Sun 9 Sep 12
So it appears it was Alan and Terry that started it all, with a dodgey referee adding to the mix.
It seems odd to me but I have always thought that the rivalry went back years and years but in truth it's not that far back, assuming that the article is correct.
I wonder if the two ex managers would ever show up at the Amex on the day that the two teams meet. I display of friendship between the two might go some way to healing the wounds.
I don't like the idea that Brighton fans would get into fights with any teams supporters, we should be above all that and not embarrass Gus and Tony Bloom.
The days of fans fighting in the streets has long since gone, remember the Millwall mob, they grew up and moved on.
Jonathan Mouette
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1:37pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Anyway all this talk of Kenwyne Jones may be superflous especially if his record of assists is true - WBA are willing to unload Chris Woods again... Given the appropriate coaching I am still convinced this guy could make the target man we are apparently looking for, and turn out to be cheap as chips...
VegasSeagull
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1:50pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Well the stats I supplied are there to see, use msn as a search engine, type in his name and in the window that opens you will see the link, I think it's the third one down, maybe the second.
Chris Woods might fit the bill but as I asked on here a few days ago, if we beat Wednesday by 2-0 or 3-0 does that change our need for a target man.
Hovite did mention that we are a tad short when it comes to headed goals from our strikers, but maybe that will change with the better service that our new players can offer.
For me the center back that Gus said he wanted is more of a priority, we really do need an extra player in this role, our cover is not as strong as it might be.
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VegasSeagull
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2:06pm Sun 9 Sep 12
This lad played for us, he was with us on loan once before.
I guess as you say, with some training, he might fit the bill but Gus has a habit of signing proven players and I doubt he would take a chance up front on a lad that he has to improve in order to get the job done.
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tug509
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2:27pm Sun 9 Sep 12
on fans as a rule are above the kind of trouble you mentioned,but unfortunately (palace last season) others dont always share the same standards,we were voted best fans only 3 or 4 seasons ago i believe.Chris Wood was strong up front for us on loan a couple of seasons ago,and good in the air,if KJ goes to Wolves or elsewhere then maybe he could help us.I can see the same scoreline as Burnley 3-1 the Albion.UTA
Baldseagull
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3:13pm Sun 9 Sep 12
VegasSeagull wrote:I don't get Brighton fans wanting to tone down the rivalry. Particularly ones who live 6000 miles away.
Thanks for that link Hovite, the article was very interesting.
So it appears it was Alan and Terry that started it all, with a dodgey referee adding to the mix.
It seems odd to me but I have always thought that the rivalry went back years and years but in truth it's not that far back, assuming that the article is correct.
I wonder if the two ex managers would ever show up at the Amex on the day that the two teams meet. I display of friendship between the two might go some way to healing the wounds.
I don't like the idea that Brighton fans would get into fights with any teams supporters, we should be above all that and not embarrass Gus and Tony Bloom.
The days of fans fighting in the streets has long since gone, remember the Millwall mob, they grew up and moved on.
The beginning of the rivalry is one thing but it is all the battles and incidents that have happened since then that keep it going, a handshake between Venables and Mullery would take nothing away from the rivalry now.
Millwall grew up and moved on? Got nicked and locked up maybe, but you will still find it easy to get a slap at Millwall.
VegasSeagull
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3:14pm Sun 9 Sep 12
If we get what we all want, promotion, our first year survival team, for that is what it will be, will have to be built on the backs of the retained players, of which there will not be many.
I can't see too many of our squad making the transition from Championship to Premier. For this reason I would expect Gus to possibly look to sign two loan players with an option to buy at the end of the season. The two loan players, for me at least, would need to be players that could make the transition. I don't see Wood as being a transition player.
It would not surprise me, ofr at least one of the two, to see Gus go abroad again when choosing his players, maybe Italy this time around. Why Italy, well just like the Spanish league it's big, many more options open to us.
If Gus is only looking to this season, then yes maybe Wood comes in.
Captain Haddock says...
9:09am Sat 8 Sep 12
Interesting to hear about Kaz's plate removal. Makes sense I guess and we have cover for the Sheff Weds match if he needs more rest than anticipated.