Mattock wants to help Owls get wise (From The Argus)

No Joe you wont be "turning us over",and i think you`ll be more than a little surprised with this seasons Albion.You did us a great service last year,but with all due respect your no Wayne Bridge.Its one thing knowing how a team plays,its another thing stopping them from playing.UTA

Blimey the Argus really are struggling for something to report. Are we really interested in an ex loanee and whether or not he plays against us. If he does I predict he will get a little bit of a run around tomorrow night. Be interesting to see how good his bond with us is then!

tug509 wrote:
No Joe you wont be "turning us over",and i think you`ll be more than a little surprised with this seasons Albion.You did us a great service last year,but with all due respect your no Wayne Bridge.Its one thing knowing how a team plays,its another thing stopping them from playing.UTA

Spot on Tug - well put.

4everaseagull wrote:
Blimey the Argus really are struggling for something to report. Are we really interested in an ex loanee and whether or not he plays against us. If he does I predict he will get a little bit of a run around tomorrow night. Be interesting to see how good his bond with us is then!

Well, you're obviously not interested, but some of us are. What is this recent(?) habit of people complaining about the stories on here? If you don't like them, why read them?

4everaseagull.

I think you are being a tad harsh, at least this is a story rather than the non story about what Gus will not do.

I hope Mattock does play because Tug509 is bang on the money in his opinion of Mattock compared to Bridge.

Mattock claims to know us, "inside and out," if that is true, not sure how he "knows," about our new signings, he will know that Wednesday are no match for Brighton. A draw would be a great result for them, but I don't see them getting it.

Still gutted we didn't sign Mattock. He would of been great cover for Bridge and would've learned a great deal from him too.

VegasSeagull wrote:
4everaseagull.

I think you are being a tad harsh, at least this is a story rather than the non story about what Gus will not do.

I hope Mattock does play because Tug509 is bang on the money in his opinion of Mattock compared to Bridge.

Mattock claims to know us, "inside and out," if that is true, not sure how he "knows," about our new signings, he will know that Wednesday are no match for Brighton. A draw would be a great result for them, but I don't see them getting it.

Ok maybe a tad harsh and you are right VegasSeagull at least it is a story rather than a speculative one. Agree Tug509 is bang on the money, Bridge is far superior in every way. Although probably not in the male grooming side of things!

Yep - take the opportunity with both hands Mattock - that'll be hand ball, Barnsie will step up and score the resulting penalty, you will go home with both those hands firmly tucked away in empty pockets !
Ablion 3 - 0 S /Wednesday !

4everaseagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: 4everaseagull. I think you are being a tad harsh, at least this is a story rather than the non story about what Gus will not do. I hope Mattock does play because Tug509 is bang on the money in his opinion of Mattock compared to Bridge. Mattock claims to know us, "inside and out," if that is true, not sure how he "knows," about our new signings, he will know that Wednesday are no match for Brighton. A draw would be a great result for them, but I don't see them getting it.

Ok maybe a tad harsh and you are right VegasSeagull at least it is a story rather than a speculative one. Agree Tug509 is bang on the money, Bridge is far superior in every way. Although probably not in the male grooming side of things!

No rubbish, this is exactly the type of story we need before a massive game, lets stoke it up a bit, Mattock was decent but not much pace,Buckley has it in bucket loads and Mattock knows it. Perhaps some prefer to hear about Bruno's not so secret weapon, not me, lets have some more spice before tomorrow.

Wow Pressbox 3-0, I hope you are right. I'll take 1-0 if we play don't play well and 2-0 if we do.
I don't think that we should write Wednesday off completely, they do have a decent striker and a couple of dangerous midfield players.

Possesion will be vital, we must command the midfield and stifle any ambitions they might have of scoring on the break.

I think that the result will be much tighter than many are predicting. Wednesday are a decent side and should come with good, vocal support! I would be delighted with 1.0! We shall see and I cannot wait! Seems like light years since the Barnsley game........UTA

Well, I hope you guys are right, but Navarro wouldn't get in our current team either, but he turned us over at Swindon, so a little caution please.

A chance to go top, even if only for a few hours. A sell out crowd. The prospect of seeing new signings take the field, even if only for part of the game, and Mattock spicing things up a little. Does it get any better.

There's a lot of under-estimating Wednesday on here. They've spent a fortune on players - way more than us - and have a squad that should compete for promotion.

If we fancied Jay Bothroyd, Wednesday got him.

Any sort of win will be a great result.

Clean Sheet wrote:
Well, I hope you guys are right, but Navarro wouldn't get in our current team either, but he turned us over at Swindon, so a little caution please.

With the best will in the world the Swindon game was imho treated with less urgency as the Hull game,which we dominated in all but scoreline.Alan Navarro was a great servant to our club and will never have anything short of total respect from the Albion faithful,but i think he himself appreciates the enormous difference between the two performances.UTA

I think Wednesday will be a good test for Brighton, no way is this a team that might be seen as one that we can just roll over.
A convincing win will ring out loud through the championship. If we take this game in our stride then every team will have to stand up and take note.
I think friday evening will see a battle rather than a fight. I am sure that Wednesday will show us respect, they know that we have quality but I don't think they will shy in coming forward. If they sit back, come for the draw, we will beat them and they know it.

Whilst we are understandably delighted with current developments at the Albion, I wonder if I am the only one rather concerned at how fans should help CMS celebrate goal-scoring. Yes, it is meant to be fun, but this sounds rather too cocky for my liking, and this sort of mild triumphalism is best avoided, particularly at this early stage. Of course it is great to see CMS scoring, but do we really need to plan a celebration, which could be counter-productive. Put in reverse -if we read of how Palace's strikers were going to celebrate scoring against us, would it not spur us on even more to stop them?

Wow, a couple of good wins and we're certs for promotion. Get a grip guys.

For ballantrrae , Vegas , Rhodes and the other expats. The missing article;Tues 11th.

Waiting goes on for injured Vicente.
VICENTE has still not resumed training with Albion, raising fresh doubts over how often the Spaniard will play this season.
An inflamed thigh tendon has limited the ex-Valencia star to one brief substitute appearance in the Championship so far.
Manager Gus Poyet confirmed to The Argus Vicente is not back in training yet and said Albion are monitoring his availability ''day by day".
The influential attacking midfielder was in conflict with the club this summer when they triggered a one-year option clause in his contract.
He was used as a striker towards
the end of the pre-season
programme and in the opening
Capital One Cup defeat at
Swindon but the Seagulls have
now signed Stephen Dobbie from
Swansea to unlock opposition
defences.
Repeating fitness issues restricted Vicente, 31. to 11 starts for Albion
last season.

On a slightly more sombre note I hope there is a minutes silence for the Hillsborough 96 after the shocking report issued today

We as a football family should stand shoulder to shoulder on this one even though it is 23 years hence

Cory and Trevor wrote:
There's a lot of under-estimating Wednesday on here. They've spent a fortune on players - way more than us - and have a squad that should compete for promotion.

If we fancied Jay Bothroyd, Wednesday got him.

Any sort of win will be a great result.

I dont think it is a case of underestimating SW,we all know you do that at your peril,always show due respect,BUT not at the expense of giving your own team the credit they are due.Imho we all need to keep reality in focus,but when you have quality embrace it and shout about it ,because its very often few and far between.The team we have all chosen to love is as good as i personally can remember in 41 years since my first game.I for one am loosing no opportunity to tell all and sundry.UTA

Ringmer Rich wrote:
Wow, a couple of good wins and we're certs for promotion. Get a grip guys.

Has anyone actually said we're certs? I think the overall mood is one of justifiably cautious optimism.

Championshipgull.

Thanks very much for the info on Vicente, that is something we would never have known just from the website.

I am not sure why he would be in conflict with the club due to their enacting a second year clause in his ocntract, he knew it was there when he signed.

Well said Hannover. Nice to see how little police attitudes have changed in 23 years! When I wear my suit to work they cannot help enough, but put me in my Albion shirt and they think I am scum!

Upton Park was probably my worst experience, but plenty are just as bad.

hannover seagull wrote:
On a slightly more sombre note I hope there is a minutes silence for the Hillsborough 96 after the shocking report issued today

We as a football family should stand shoulder to shoulder on this one even though it is 23 years hence

Im sure there will be.The people of Liverpool have been treated atrociously,i hope they get the justice they deserve.

championshipgull wrote:
For ballantrrae , Vegas , Rhodes and the other expats. The missing article;Tues 11th.

Waiting goes on for injured Vicente.
VICENTE has still not resumed training with Albion, raising fresh doubts over how often the Spaniard will play this season.
An inflamed thigh tendon has limited the ex-Valencia star to one brief substitute appearance in the Championship so far.
Manager Gus Poyet confirmed to The Argus Vicente is not back in training yet and said Albion are monitoring his availability ''day by day".
The influential attacking midfielder was in conflict with the club this summer when they triggered a one-year option clause in his contract.
He was used as a striker towards
the end of the pre-season
programme and in the opening
Capital One Cup defeat at
Swindon but the Seagulls have
now signed Stephen Dobbie from
Swansea to unlock opposition
defences.
Repeating fitness issues restricted Vicente, 31. to 11 starts for Albion
last season.

Championshipgull v many thanks for responding and providing the info on the Vicente update report. Your effort much appreciated.
I have to say given the uncertainty of how often Vicente might play I am delighted we have signed Dobbie, not that one feels they are in any way mutually exclusive.

hannover seagull wrote:
On a slightly more sombre note I hope there is a minutes silence for the Hillsborough 96 after the shocking report issued today

We as a football family should stand shoulder to shoulder on this one even though it is 23 years hence

Your comment Hanover Seagull is one that I am sure most fans would agree with. A minutes silence would certainly be appropriate.

"Turning us over" probably refers to the turning over of soil which is what I would use a mattock for. He might churn up the turf chasing shadows.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Championshipgull.

Thanks very much for the info on Vicente, that is something we would never have known just from the website.

I am not sure why he would be in conflict with the club due to their enacting a second year clause in his ocntract, he knew it was there when he signed.

Although it was reported that all was well and he was keen to play and even extend his contract, I think he is still miffed that the club invoked his contract extension. What's to stop him staying in Spain and collecting his wages?

championshipgull wrote:
For ballantrrae , Vegas , Rhodes and the other expats. The missing article;Tues 11th. Waiting goes on for injured Vicente. VICENTE has still not resumed training with Albion, raising fresh doubts over how often the Spaniard will play this season. An inflamed thigh tendon has limited the ex-Valencia star to one brief substitute appearance in the Championship so far. Manager Gus Poyet confirmed to The Argus Vicente is not back in training yet and said Albion are monitoring his availability ''day by day". The influential attacking midfielder was in conflict with the club this summer when they triggered a one-year option clause in his contract. He was used as a striker towards the end of the pre-season programme and in the opening Capital One Cup defeat at Swindon but the Seagulls have now signed Stephen Dobbie from Swansea to unlock opposition defences. Repeating fitness issues restricted Vicente, 31. to 11 starts for Albion last season.

Dont get me wrong i think Vicente is such a talent for us to behold but if he had gone to Elche in the summer do you think he would of been fit for selection this weekend. Because i think he would of been.

Alfie T wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Championshipgull.

Thanks very much for the info on Vicente, that is something we would never have known just from the website.

I am not sure why he would be in conflict with the club due to their enacting a second year clause in his ocntract, he knew it was there when he signed.

Although it was reported that all was well and he was keen to play and even extend his contract, I think he is still miffed that the club invoked his contract extension. What's to stop him staying in Spain and collecting his wages?

This man is now disrespectful to our club and needs to make his mind up,whether he wants to play for a team that has paid him and his medical bills for a longggg time,or go home and stop wasting our time.A Michael (sicknote)Owen we neither need or can afford.We are building a team that a player with the quality of Vicente should be happy to be a part of,Gus has brought in several fellow spaniards who are equally as talented ,but seem to be more happy to be here.Please prove me wrong,but at the moment your not winning any sympathy.As for your contract it was a two way agreement,had we not wanted you,you had the same extension clause as Gus used,why would you sign this contract if you never intended to honour it......Sorry for the outburst but enough!!!UTA

You are right on all counts Tug509

VegasSeagull wrote:
You are right on all counts Tug509

Crikey Vegas do you think i trod in something?UTA

So here we go again with the vicente rumours gang. The Argus have not reported that he is in any way fed up and wants to go home. GP explains the situation on the pre match press conference (go on seagulls on line). Before V came here he was injured quite frequently, why would it be any different when he comes to BHA. Look forward to getting him back later in the season, he may well make the difference. UTA

Born again seagull.

I don't think it's a case of bashing Vicente, I think it's more a case of, is the man an asset or not. It's great having him at the club, his talents are certainly respected and wanted, the problem is a niggle has now turned into a long term injury.
The player is on a one year contract and we might well need him if injuries or suspensions take their toll, the question is, will he be available.

Right now he is not in full training, when he recovers he will need to get match fit, how many matches will have passed by then, and how many times would we have wanted to play him but not been able to.

Promotion will require a squad of 25 players, we have started with 24. The tough question has to be asked, can we afford to pay out money on an asset that is not available or do we spend that money on an asset that is available.

Agreeing that it is not his fault, accepting that injuries need time to repair, respecting his talent, all of that does not make him ready to play and that is what we need. This year of all years I think the same would be said of all the players in the squad. ,

born again seagull wrote:
So here we go again with the vicente rumours gang. The Argus have not reported that he is in any way fed up and wants to go home. GP explains the situation on the pre match press conference (go on seagulls on line). Before V came here he was injured quite frequently, why would it be any different when he comes to BHA. Look forward to getting him back later in the season, he may well make the difference. UTA

A rumour is an idea or supposition without foundation.Vicente is neither playing or passed fit therefore fact not rumour.Your description of Vicentes frequent injuries are not encouraging.There has to come a point when you wonder whether your`e getting what you are paying for.If this man wants to go home,tear the contract up,and let us get back to winning the league.UTA

born again seagull wrote:
So here we go again with the vicente rumours gang. The Argus have not reported that he is in any way fed up and wants to go home. GP explains the situation on the pre match press conference (go on seagulls on line). Before V came here he was injured quite frequently, why would it be any different when he comes to BHA. Look forward to getting him back later in the season, he may well make the difference. UTA

Good to know I'm not the only one irritated by this born again seagull.

I also wish Vegas would stop spinning his Vicente hate web on here.

Hovite wrote:

born again seagull wrote:
So here we go again with the vicente rumours gang. The Argus have not reported that he is in any way fed up and wants to go home. GP explains the situation on the pre match press conference (go on seagulls on line). Before V came here he was injured quite frequently, why would it be any different when he comes to BHA. Look forward to getting him back later in the season, he may well make the difference. UTA

Good to know I'm not the only one irritated by this born again seagull.

I also wish Vegas would stop spinning his Vicente hate web on here.

Vegas has his opinions on many subjects, Vicente is one, but to suggest it is a hate web is ridiculous, it's an opinion that's all.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Born again seagull.

I don't think it's a case of bashing Vicente, I think it's more a case of, is the man an asset or not. It's great having him at the club, his talents are certainly respected and wanted, the problem is a niggle has now turned into a long term injury.
The player is on a one year contract and we might well need him if injuries or suspensions take their toll, the question is, will he be available.

Right now he is not in full training, when he recovers he will need to get match fit, how many matches will have passed by then, and how many times would we have wanted to play him but not been able to.

Promotion will require a squad of 25 players, we have started with 24. The tough question has to be asked, can we afford to pay out money on an asset that is not available or do we spend that money on an asset that is available.

Agreeing that it is not his fault, accepting that injuries need time to repair, respecting his talent, all of that does not make him ready to play and that is what we need. This year of all years I think the same would be said of all the players in the squad. ,

I look at this way. the chances are that if Vicente were not with us, Bruno and our other Spanish stars may have looked elsewhere, such is his pedigree. So, as much as it is frustrating that he is injured again, he is still doing his bit in a roundabout way. I don't believe for one minute that he wants to leave this club and go pay for some 2nd div spanish outfit. He will love football and the thought of playing with his mates in front of 25k outdoes anything else on offer. I also think that his whole problem during the summer was the fact that his lady had a baby and most of us know what that can do the her state of mind. she probably wanted to stay in the safety of her own country with mum nearby. Thats puts Vicente in a difficult position but he mangaes to talk her round. then the poor bloke goes and gets another injury. He must be really Pxxxxx off.

tug509 wrote:

born again seagull wrote:
So here we go again with the vicente rumours gang. The Argus have not reported that he is in any way fed up and wants to go home. GP explains the situation on the pre match press conference (go on seagulls on line). Before V came here he was injured quite frequently, why would it be any different when he comes to BHA. Look forward to getting him back later in the season, he may well make the difference. UTA

A rumour is an idea or supposition without foundation.Vicente is neither playing or passed fit therefore fact not rumour.Your description of Vicentes frequent injuries are not encouraging.There has to come a point when you wonder whether your`e getting what you are paying for.If this man wants to go home,tear the contract up,and let us get back to winning the league.UTA

Yes but tug509, he is injured and not fit are the only two facts that you and others have. the rest are rumours, carbon copy last season!

So, back to Mattock and SW tomorrow evening. these guys have brought in some serious numbers since the end of last season and some of them look top quality signings for them. Mattock is certainly no Bridge but if we had signed him I think that most of us would have been happy with him and at the other end of the pitch they've just signed the big guy we were supposedly trying to get in, Bothroyd.
I think tomorrow will be an absolute cracker with an abundance of goals. It's going to be real tough but I see a win with the shoreline being 4-3. UTA

So, back to Mattock and SW tomorrow evening. these guys have brought in some serious numbers since the end of last season and some of them look top quality signings for them. Mattock is certainly no Bridge but if we had signed him I think that most of us would have been happy with him and at the other end of the pitch they've just signed the big guy we were supposedly trying to get in, Bothroyd.
I think tomorrow will be an absolute cracker with an abundance of goals. It's going to be real tough but I see a win with the shoreline being 4-3. UTA

There's only one thing more boring on here than the International break & the resulting disappearance of quality Argus articles for the duration,and that's the incessant raising of boring same old posts on here about Vicente.
While many seem to hang on to that guy as if he's some sort of one man requirement to a successful season, I think the fact that we have a more balanced and less "Vicente" reliant squad has been greatly overlooked.
The guy is injured, he often is, our season doesn't hang on him being available and perhaps "some" should just reflect on whether "he" needs to be the source of debate before every bloody game ?

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
There's only one thing more boring on here than the International break & the resulting disappearance of quality Argus articles for the duration,and that's the incessant raising of boring same old posts on here about Vicente.
While many seem to hang on to that guy as if he's some sort of one man requirement to a successful season, I think the fact that we have a more balanced and less "Vicente" reliant squad has been greatly overlooked.
The guy is injured, he often is, our season doesn't hang on him being available and perhaps "some" should just reflect on whether "he" needs to be the source of debate before every bloody game ?

I'll 2nd that. Good shout. .

Alfie T wrote:

Hovite wrote:

born again seagull wrote:
So here we go again with the vicente rumours gang. The Argus have not reported that he is in any way fed up and wants to go home. GP explains the situation on the pre match press conference (go on seagulls on line). Before V came here he was injured quite frequently, why would it be any different when he comes to BHA. Look forward to getting him back later in the season, he may well make the difference. UTA

Good to know I'm not the only one irritated by this born again seagull.

I also wish Vegas would stop spinning his Vicente hate web on here.

Vegas has his opinions on many subjects, Vicente is one, but to suggest it is a hate web is ridiculous, it's an opinion that's all.

It's not an opinion, it's a fixation and he's been stuck on Vicente all week, not a word about Dobbie, Orlandi or Lopez.

All we are getting is, he's deadwood, cut him loose, the club are wasting their money Blah Blah Blah

and then Tug comes up with; This man is now disrespectful to our club - he should make up his mind - he's not winning any sympathy - he should honour his contract Blah Blah Blah

Hardly loving comments Alfie T, but read it however you choose.

Perseus wrote:
"Turning us over" probably refers to the turning over of soil which is what I would use a mattock for. He might churn up the turf chasing shadows.

Haha. Very good!

SMF20 wrote:
So, back to Mattock and SW tomorrow evening. these guys have brought in some serious numbers since the end of last season and some of them look top quality signings for them. Mattock is certainly no Bridge but if we had signed him I think that most of us would have been happy with him and at the other end of the pitch they've just signed the big guy we were supposedly trying to get in, Bothroyd.
I think tomorrow will be an absolute cracker with an abundance of goals. It's going to be real tough but I see a win with the shoreline being 4-3. UTA

Blimmin' 'eck! 4-3??!! Well I guess I'd take that but I prefer the scoreline I've been adamant about all week:

3-1 to The Albion (CMS, Bruno and Dobbie the probable scorers).

Hovite wrote:

born again seagull wrote: So here we go again with the vicente rumours gang. The Argus have not reported that he is in any way fed up and wants to go home. GP explains the situation on the pre match press conference (go on seagulls on line). Before V came here he was injured quite frequently, why would it be any different when he comes to BHA. Look forward to getting him back later in the season, he may well make the difference. UTA

Good to know I'm not the only one irritated by this born again seagull. I also wish Vegas would stop spinning his Vicente hate web on here.

Are you on medication Hovite, how does anything I have written amount to, "hate."

I really don't care how irritated you are, people have opinions and are free to express them, but, your use of the word, 'hate,' is rediculous.

It seems that you like to adopt the mother hen role, protect your little chics from the nasty people, when all you are doing is not facing the truth about a very expensive player who is not playing.,

4everaseagull wrote:
Blimey the Argus really are struggling for something to report. Are we really interested in an ex loanee and whether or not he plays against us. If he does I predict he will get a little bit of a run around tomorrow night. Be interesting to see how good his bond with us is then!

I agree, that was the first thing I thought when I saw the headline

Hovite wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Hovite wrote:

born again seagull wrote:
So here we go again with the vicente rumours gang. The Argus have not reported that he is in any way fed up and wants to go home. GP explains the situation on the pre match press conference (go on seagulls on line). Before V came here he was injured quite frequently, why would it be any different when he comes to BHA. Look forward to getting him back later in the season, he may well make the difference. UTA

Good to know I'm not the only one irritated by this born again seagull.

I also wish Vegas would stop spinning his Vicente hate web on here.

Vegas has his opinions on many subjects, Vicente is one, but to suggest it is a hate web is ridiculous, it's an opinion that's all.

It's not an opinion, it's a fixation and he's been stuck on Vicente all week, not a word about Dobbie, Orlandi or Lopez.

All we are getting is, he's deadwood, cut him loose, the club are wasting their money Blah Blah Blah

and then Tug comes up with; This man is now disrespectful to our club - he should make up his mind - he's not winning any sympathy - he should honour his contract Blah Blah Blah

Hardly loving comments Alfie T, but read it however you choose.

All i ask as a fan is that any long term injury of anyone of our players is laid on the table for all to see.Not hidden under secrecy or speculation.Noone,Bu
ckley,Greer,Elphick have all made statements when injured,letting the fans know that they are champing at the bit to play,but Vicente says nothing,leaving people like me to wonder just what is going on,does he want to go home or is he ticked off at the additional year on his contract being activated,hence the permanent niggle.Imho it is disrespectful not to tell the fans the full situation,when a simple word from him would solve everything.UTA

There have been a number of interesting reports in the last 24 hours on the club website which I think are deserving of comment.
Firstly as Hanover suggested earlier on this thread there will indeed be a period of silence before the game to mark the terrible Hillsborough tragedy.
Secondly expect a record crowd as the match is a 'sell-out' which has resulted in the new season ticket exchange scheme being triggered.
Thirdly the club have confirmed that the current capacity is 27,000 and will 'shortly go up to over 30,000'.
Fourthly as the Real Ryfish and others have said Wednesday are going to be tough oppostion. If either side Wednesday or the Albion win tonight they will go top of the Championship.
On top of all those items there is the prospect of some of the new signings appearing for the Albion for the first time or in Hammond's case reappearing.
I am really disappointed to be missing the game as I am still on Holiday in France but hope to be able to listen to the match on Radio 5 Live.
One other comment. I was slightly surprised that Poyet and Burke didn't take the opportunity during the international break to sign on loan either the Target man or CB that Poyet is on record as still wanting to recruit. It would have provided the opportunity to start getting such players integrated into the Albion playing style in the same way he has been able to use the break with messrs Dobbie, Lopez etc.
I say only slightly surprised since the search for a suitable Target man has been going on for more than a year now and we seem to be no closer to finding that 'Holy Grail' than we were 12 months ago.
Here's to a positive result tonight, UTA.

Firstly Vegas; your use of the word rediculous is ridiculous, and both you and Tug are spitting the dummy at the club over the way "you think" the club and Vicente should report to you.

I don't owe you any more respect than what you are giving Vicente.

It's not what you say, it's the way you say it, and the repetitive nature of it that irritates me. Just like a broken record.

Captain Haddock wrote:

SMF20 wrote:
So, back to Mattock and SW tomorrow evening. these guys have brought in some serious numbers since the end of last season and some of them look top quality signings for them. Mattock is certainly no Bridge but if we had signed him I think that most of us would have been happy with him and at the other end of the pitch they've just signed the big guy we were supposedly trying to get in, Bothroyd.
I think tomorrow will be an absolute cracker with an abundance of goals. It's going to be real tough but I see a win with the shoreline being 4-3. UTA

Blimmin' 'eck! 4-3??!! Well I guess I'd take that but I prefer the scoreline I've been adamant about all week:

3-1 to The Albion (CMS, Bruno and Dobbie the probable scorers).

Ha! I like the 'shoreline', lol. UTA....2-0 to the Albion

Hovite wrote:
Firstly Vegas; your use of the word rediculous is ridiculous, and both you and Tug are spitting the dummy at the club over the way "you think" the club and Vicente should report to you.

I don't owe you any more respect than what you are giving Vicente.

It's not what you say, it's the way you say it, and the repetitive nature of it that irritates me. Just like a broken record.

Not report to me or any individual but,keep ALL Albion supporters in the picture,not just ignore those who have had an invested interest in the Albion for longer than Vicente has lived,and will continue to do so long after he has retired from the game.You have a tendancy to answer questions no one has asked,i have not asked or expect your respect,but i am showing equal respect to a man who cannot be bothered to tell his own fans something as simple as,when they can expect to see him play again if ever.Sorry if this repetitive nature irritates you,then you will know how i feel with the lack of information about our most highly paid player.But do not accuse me of spitting the dummy at the club,i have not mentioned the club in this once,and would NEVER show a lack of respect to the Albion,but this does not mean i have to except blind ignorance of any given situation.UTA

I dont think Mattock is in the same class as Bruno or Bridge, so not bothered we didnt sign him.
3-1, top of the league, up the mighty albion!

Hovite wrote:
Firstly Vegas; your use of the word rediculous is ridiculous, and both you and Tug are spitting the dummy at the club over the way "you think" the club and Vicente should report to you. I don't owe you any more respect than what you are giving Vicente. It's not what you say, it's the way you say it, and the repetitive nature of it that irritates me. Just like a broken record.

Hovite you write like a mother hen looking after her chicks.

As Tug pointed out the only thing that he and I are calling for is clarification as to his injury and if he still wants to be at the club.

Poyet told us pre-season that Vicente was finding it hard to return, hard for personal reasons.

You seem to be of the opinion that no one has the right to expect answers to basic questions regarding Vicente. Every fan has a right to be interested and every fan has a right to expect answers. Again Tug is right when he say, 'the player himself can end the speculation.' Gus can, and will, only tell us so much, Vicente owes it to the fans to tell the rest.

Neither Tug or I would want to see him return to Spain but if that is where his heart is he should come clean.

Vicente is special on the pitch but off of it, he is just another player in the squad and right now he is off the pitch. Just because you think it's ok for him to take a paycheck and return nothing it doesn't mean that all the fans think that way.

And you write like a B1tch

Hovite wrote:
And you write like a B1tch

hahaha so funny, and so telling.