Sub Buckley saves a point

Will Buckley swoops to score the equaliser (photo Simon Dack) Will Buckley swoops to score the equaliser (photo Simon Dack)

Will Buckley came off the bench to salvage a point for Albion at The Amex tonight.

But the 1-1 draw with Ipswich knocks them off the top of the Championship.

Buckley, a big threat after his 62nd minute introduction, struck from close range after good work by right-back Inigo Calderon.

Calderon was at fault for the Ipswich opener when Daryl Murphy got in front of him to head home at the far post on 27 minutes after a great cross by Carlos Edwards.

Tomasz Kuszczak kept Albion in the game by denying Murphy straight after half-time.

Then the hosts stepped up a gear playing towards the North Stand.

Stephen Dobbie’s deflected shot looped narrowly wide, Ashley Barnes was just off target and Scott Loach parried a LuaLua blast.

Calderon forced his way to the byline before getting the ball low across goal for Buckley to finish in the 80th minute.

But Albion did not look like completing the job and a point was the most they merited.  

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Comments(49)

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...
10:17pm Tue 2 Oct 12

That was ****!!!

pjwilk says...
10:23pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Not a good display,not a lot of passion.Very few efforts on target,need more zip in their play,and another goal scorer.

Openmyeyes says...
10:39pm Tue 2 Oct 12

On a more positive note - the ball from Lopez to put Calderon in for the goal was fantastic. Hammond looked out of sorts for 2nd game in row after running the game vs Millwall. Dobbie is not a centre forward, even if you cross your fingers and wish it 1000 times. And Barnes looked neither fish nor fowl - not enough pace to play in the channels, not good enough in air to play as target man. Upper east burgers are burnt (when available).

bruce beckett says...
10:46pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Sounds like you had a good night out then, Openmyeyes?

Disappointing to take only one point from six at home to Brum and Ipswich, but on the bright side, we do have three quality players (CMS, Bruno and Crofts) to come back. Surprised that Gus opted not to have a striker on the bench. This was Dobbie's big chance to shine and he failed the audition.

We can't even take the pee out of Palace after their win at Wolves. Didn't see those three wins coming.

Ringmer Rich says...
10:48pm Tue 2 Oct 12

More guile and gumption needed. lots of possession and opportunities, not enough determination on the final shot.

Openmyeyes says...
10:51pm Tue 2 Oct 12

bruce beckett wrote:
Sounds like you had a good night out then, Openmyeyes? Disappointing to take only one point from six at home to Brum and Ipswich, but on the bright side, we do have three quality players (CMS, Bruno and Crofts) to come back. Surprised that Gus opted not to have a striker on the bench. This was Dobbie's big chance to shine and he failed the audition. We can't even take the pee out of Palace after their win at Wolves. Didn't see those three wins coming.
Well you are right Bruce, no one should go to football expecting a Michelin star dining experience. But when you work in London and sneak out early and change trains twice to get to a disappointing draw in the rain, a burger minus carbon doesn't feel like too much to ask for.

WoodingdeanDS says...
10:53pm Tue 2 Oct 12

So, after my Sat post re Dobbie, this performance not just reinforces my view, but brings more fans to my way of thinking - he's not good enough! Just need Gus to bite the bullet and get shot of him. Trouble is, we need a decent centre forward to partner CMS - that's what the loan system is for.

tonytowner1 says...
10:54pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Sure we want to put in those extra seats just now? When top and we can't make the place look close to full ....?
Orlandi looked class, Bridge broadly exciting and quality again, Kuzcak the same with a game saving save. Where's the target man? Are we going the whole season again hoping no one up front gets injured then? It's an obvious that having goal scorers is pretty important surely!!

Eddy B says...
10:58pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Probably lucky to get a point considering relatively late equaliser. Ipswich looked a lot better than Birmingham on Saturday. Bridge not quite as good as last time. El Abd very strong at the back (but boy, lucky not to get a straight red for that hack near the end). Kuschak made a vital save to prevent us going 2 down just after half time and it did look like it was going the same way as Saturday. Very surprised to see the stats that we had 11 shots on target - can't remember the Ipswich goalie being that busy. Hammond disappointing again (I thought he was supposed to be an attacking midfielder but seems to be playing extremely deep and without the confidence to make the forward pass). Good to see Lopez contribute towards the equaliser with nice link up with Calde. Dobbie not quite on it yet but we should remember he is one of several new players who haven't played together before. Strange to think it after the start we had but quite a few of the players look a bit off form and nervous and a frustrated crowd accentuates that.

kwaidam says...
11:00pm Tue 2 Oct 12

some quotes guys...
.....
Gus Poyet reckons his side are suffering because of their reputation as a team of high-fliers.
He said: “Everyone in England thinks we are a top, top team in this division. So teams come with a plan. That’s what Birmingham did.
That’s what Ipswich did. They sneaked a goal and defended. They made you do all the effort.
“My players are down in the dressing room but I could not have asked for more. We need to get used to the way teams play against us.”
Ipswich boss Paul Jewell said: “Brighton are a fine side but we gave them a good game. We’ve taken a lot of flak but have shown in the last two games the spirit is there. All we need is the victory and we are on our way.”

Far gull says...
11:04pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Big disappointment again. Dobbie aka donkey. Little or no movement off the ball and he was not only offender. Lualua purely an impact sub. Dicker ( surprise ) and buckley the difference in final 10 mins thank goodness.! Lopez and orlandi jury still out. Strength in depth?? Toby / hoskins/ barker all worth a try up front on this showing if cms unfit and jfc worth a recall before january too. What a disappointment. Suggest gus off bench and sit in stand for a better view of how poor were. Sorry everyone just a bit pd off after promising start to the season.

BHA Dave says...
11:12pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Was it a burger or cardboard inside the.bun? I'm still not sure and waiting for my toast as I write. Performance was dreadful I'm afraid. What's happened to the fluent passing? It is now to slow, giving the opposition a chance to get back and organise. Late in the 2nd half we started a promising counter attack, stopped the ball in the middle and waited for them to get back. Bridge is but should not b our biggest threat going forward. Dobbie needs to play in Barnes role behind a centre forward. He will come good once up to speed and playing where he is able to influence the game. Far too early to write him off. Lua lua shocking btw as was Greer. Buckley should have been on at half time.

Neville says...
11:15pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Almost a carbon copy of Saturday against Birmingham,execept we managed a goal this time. The difference tonight was that Ipswich when passing found their man,we didnt more often than not. We only seem to play one way whether winning or losing and at times very frustrating. Again the final ball lacking and we just don't look dangerous from any set pieces. Think we will find it easier playing away from home Saturday.

Blackheath, Brighton Fan says...
11:17pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Least we're still 3rd, i think a fair number of people are jumping the gun a bit with repects to their comments. Its just two poor performances. i'm sure will be back in form soon and winning again because we all know gus knows what he's doing and will make the team perform better next time. UTA

Alfie T says...
11:18pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Far gull wrote:
Big disappointment again. Dobbie aka donkey. Little or no movement off the ball and he was not only offender. Lualua purely an impact sub. Dicker ( surprise ) and buckley the difference in final 10 mins thank goodness.! Lopez and orlandi jury still out. Strength in depth?? Toby / hoskins/ barker all worth a try up front on this showing if cms unfit and jfc worth a recall before january too. What a disappointment. Suggest gus off bench and sit in stand for a better view of how poor were. Sorry everyone just a bit pd off after promising start to the season.
The Jury is not out on Orlandi, a class player great touches,intelligent passing,and warranted his mom. Lua Lua was awful,had the chance to score in the second minute, after that couldn't beat an egg. Dobbie can play, but only with the ball at his feet,doesn't like hard work, disappointed with him,the Scottish Messi,yeh right. Buckley showed what a talent he is,raw pace and very direct scares full backs to death. Need CMS and Bruno back Saturday, and Crofts to give Hammond a rest.

brightonup says...
11:22pm Tue 2 Oct 12

I thought Lualua had a mare, Hammond was relatively poor, and Dobbie was uncomfortable.
Bridge was a different class again, but generally we showed how much we rely on CMS and Bruno. Without them we lack urgency and guile.

namgo49 says...
11:24pm Tue 2 Oct 12

I would have had Buckley on after 15 minutes, Lualua was poor. Hammond another duff game. We huffed and puffed but they know exactly how to play us and had in Emanual Thomas a player who worked his socks off breaking up the play.

With Buckley you always have a chance of a goal. We really missed Bruno whose attacking play makes all the difference.

A lot of the time the players looked like they were playing with lead in their boots. We lacked pace. Dobbie has all the speed of his lookalike Garry Hart but I think he will come good. Barnes as a target man does not do it for me!

Lucky to get a point to be honest.

Eddy B says...
11:25pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Of course teams come with a plan. We have to be good enough to still beat them, that includes coming from behind and closing out games when we are 1 or 2 up. Ipswich didn't only defend, they created chances and played some neat triangles. There isn't a lot of difference between many of the teams in this division and I suspect come March there will be a dozen teams in with a shout of a play off place like last year. I don't think Brighton are going to start trying to bulldoze their way out of this division (WestHam style) although the occasional hoof and chase in the last 5 minutes wouldn't do any harm. So that extra bit of creative class, the cool finish, the pinpoint lay back, is going to decide a lot of games. Which players can provide that, and who is going to be there to notch 20+ goals?

HOVEPARKRESIDENT says...
11:28pm Tue 2 Oct 12

What did I tell you. Another shocking performance and a point rescued by Buckley who should have been on from the start.
On a more positive note my pie was edible and so far no sign of the squirts.

B-hove says...
11:40pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Alfie T wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Big disappointment again. Dobbie aka donkey. Little or no movement off the ball and he was not only offender. Lualua purely an impact sub. Dicker ( surprise ) and buckley the difference in final 10 mins thank goodness.! Lopez and orlandi jury still out. Strength in depth?? Toby / hoskins/ barker all worth a try up front on this showing if cms unfit and jfc worth a recall before january too. What a disappointment. Suggest gus off bench and sit in stand for a better view of how poor were. Sorry everyone just a bit pd off after promising start to the season.
The Jury is not out on Orlandi, a class player great touches,intelligent passing,and warranted his mom. Lua Lua was awful,had the chance to score in the second minute, after that couldn't beat an egg. Dobbie can play, but only with the ball at his feet,doesn't like hard work, disappointed with him,the Scottish Messi,yeh right. Buckley showed what a talent he is,raw pace and very direct scares full backs to death. Need CMS and Bruno back Saturday, and Crofts to give Hammond a rest.
Spot on with all suggested changes, Alfie T. Dobbie's game is too similar to Barnes's, except his work-rate is very much lower. There isn't room for both in the team. Conclusion obvious.

Only Buckley ever looked likely to score in the box. We really someone with presence in the oppo's penalty area: that target man striker we've all craved for over a year, now.

wiseman of hove says...
11:41pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Alfie T wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Big disappointment again. Dobbie aka donkey. Little or no movement off the ball and he was not only offender. Lualua purely an impact sub. Dicker ( surprise ) and buckley the difference in final 10 mins thank goodness.! Lopez and orlandi jury still out. Strength in depth?? Toby / hoskins/ barker all worth a try up front on this showing if cms unfit and jfc worth a recall before january too. What a disappointment. Suggest gus off bench and sit in stand for a better view of how poor were. Sorry everyone just a bit pd off after promising start to the season.
The Jury is not out on Orlandi, a class player great touches,intelligent passing,and warranted his mom. Lua Lua was awful,had the chance to score in the second minute, after that couldn't beat an egg. Dobbie can play, but only with the ball at his feet,doesn't like hard work, disappointed with him,the Scottish Messi,yeh right. Buckley showed what a talent he is,raw pace and very direct scares full backs to death. Need CMS and Bruno back Saturday, and Crofts to give Hammond a rest.
Alfie T spot on with his comments. First half showed Orlandi's class. Hammond looks short of any confidence or conviction.As I have also previously posted, Lua Lua is an impact sub and not a full game player. Dobbie needs to up his work rate. For me, the biggest disappointment is to see our most exciting player, Will Buckley, sitting on the bench and given half an hour. Why did he not start?

campotolox says...
11:47pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Caca,that is **** in english,if they cant win there home games give up, thats what they did,give your wages back,doughnuts coes to mind,over paid muppits?

Vince says...
11:49pm Tue 2 Oct 12

I lost count of misplaced passes from several players - notably Bridcutt, Greer, El-Abd, Hammond, Dobbie. Even Bridge seemed lethargic in the first half, and moves involving Hammond invariably broke down, as he was not sharp enough with his passing, and kept getting caught in possession. Barnes was not at the races, and didn't have the skill to create anything, but Dobbie, although not playing well, had 4 or 5 fierce shots which did not quite hit the target. He will definitely get goals for us.

At least El-Abd was brilliant defensively making some great saving tackles, but we were lucky not to be 0-2 at half-time and 0-3 soon after with a fantastic save by Kuszczac from point blank. Ipswich never gave us time to play our passing game, hence the misplaced passes, and they looked dangerous everytime they went forward. They deserved all 3 points in my opinion.

However, Buckley was at last brought on for the out-of-form Lua-Lua, who not once get the better of the full-back. Buckley was by far the best forward we had and deserved his goal. He also sent over some lovely crosses from the byeline which were crying out for someone to head in.

A very disjointed performance, far worse than our stirring second half performance against Birmingham, but Ipswich played more fluidly and a point was the least they deserved.

The last 2 performances will have sent a strong message to Gus that the present squad is not nearly good enough for the Premiership. The return of CMS, Bruno and Vicente (and Crofts/Hoskins???) will make us a force once again, but the lack of cover up front is very worrying, and in my opinion a powerful target man is essential.

wiseman of hove says...
11:55pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Vince wrote:
I lost count of misplaced passes from several players - notably Bridcutt, Greer, El-Abd, Hammond, Dobbie. Even Bridge seemed lethargic in the first half, and moves involving Hammond invariably broke down, as he was not sharp enough with his passing, and kept getting caught in possession. Barnes was not at the races, and didn't have the skill to create anything, but Dobbie, although not playing well, had 4 or 5 fierce shots which did not quite hit the target. He will definitely get goals for us.

At least El-Abd was brilliant defensively making some great saving tackles, but we were lucky not to be 0-2 at half-time and 0-3 soon after with a fantastic save by Kuszczac from point blank. Ipswich never gave us time to play our passing game, hence the misplaced passes, and they looked dangerous everytime they went forward. They deserved all 3 points in my opinion.

However, Buckley was at last brought on for the out-of-form Lua-Lua, who not once get the better of the full-back. Buckley was by far the best forward we had and deserved his goal. He also sent over some lovely crosses from the byeline which were crying out for someone to head in.

A very disjointed performance, far worse than our stirring second half performance against Birmingham, but Ipswich played more fluidly and a point was the least they deserved.

The last 2 performances will have sent a strong message to Gus that the present squad is not nearly good enough for the Premiership. The return of CMS, Bruno and Vicente (and Crofts/Hoskins???) will make us a force once again, but the lack of cover up front is very worrying, and in my opinion a powerful target man is essential.
Another excellent post that says it all - the only consolation is that Ipswich will upset a few of our rivals if they continue with that standard of performance.

The Phantom says...
11:59pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Disappointing tonight, probably more so than Saturday. Just seemed a bit paceless until Buckley came on. Orlandi excellent till he hobbled off and also took some excellent corners - we just dont seem to attack the ball in the box at the moment. Ipswich had a bit more about them than Birmingham and could well have added a second but for Kuzczak. A bit of a reality check right now and could do with Bruno and CMS coming back asap.

seagulltess says...
12:05am Wed 3 Oct 12

As stated by several posts, Lua Lua was pathetic. Hammond awful, as was Barnes and Calderon. Slow and laboured passing from the back and when that did not work Greer and El Ab pumped aimless balls up front. Dobbie not the answer; lacks pace. Why was Buckley not playing from the start; if he had I do think we would be talking about another three points in the bag. Orlandi I think has a lot to offer. The keeper has been the find of the season; outstanding.

Lofaplace says...
12:15am Wed 3 Oct 12

UGH! that was dire. Everyone around me said so and to be honest we were lucky to get a point. More performances that? NO THANKS GUS!

Gazza by the sea says...
1:15am Wed 3 Oct 12

Hmm - all a bit too negative for me chaps. Some lovely one touch movement between Orlandi, Dobbie and Bridcutt throughout - and Dicker when he came on. Team is getting more comfortable with the passing game and learning to get the ball forward a bit quicker than last season. As that confidence grows amongst those players that have the skill to do it consistently it's starting to show the failings of some that are not so comfortable with it.

Agree with a lot of posts that Hammond has been off the pace last two games - far too many mis-placed passes from him and Greer particularly tonight which is completely counter to Gus's game. Dobbie definitely has the guile and technique to do well for us - seemed to tire badly towards the end.

And I really don't understand why Ashley bothers tackling anyone - he jumps out of every tackle that he attempts which either results in him falling over, getting hurt or getting booked. Having said that if he has to start then he is less of a risk playing upfront than anywhere else.

Overall - really not as bad as some are making out. Look at the stats - tonight and Saturday (shots and corner count way above the opposition) and if KLL had put away that gift of a chance in the first minute it could have been so different.

Keep the faith you lot. 3rd in the league with Bruno, CMS, Crofts and Vicente missing. My how our expectations have been raised that feel the need to gripe at that.

JoeBlow says...
4:48am Wed 3 Oct 12

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Hmm - all a bit too negative for me chaps. Some lovely one touch movement between Orlandi, Dobbie and Bridcutt throughout - and Dicker when he came on. Team is getting more comfortable with the passing game and learning to get the ball forward a bit quicker than last season. As that confidence grows amongst those players that have the skill to do it consistently it's starting to show the failings of some that are not so comfortable with it.

Agree with a lot of posts that Hammond has been off the pace last two games - far too many mis-placed passes from him and Greer particularly tonight which is completely counter to Gus's game. Dobbie definitely has the guile and technique to do well for us - seemed to tire badly towards the end.

And I really don't understand why Ashley bothers tackling anyone - he jumps out of every tackle that he attempts which either results in him falling over, getting hurt or getting booked. Having said that if he has to start then he is less of a risk playing upfront than anywhere else.

Overall - really not as bad as some are making out. Look at the stats - tonight and Saturday (shots and corner count way above the opposition) and if KLL had put away that gift of a chance in the first minute it could have been so different.

Keep the faith you lot. 3rd in the league with Bruno, CMS, Crofts and Vicente missing. My how our expectations have been raised that feel the need to gripe at that.
Well said about the expectations, but maybe it is the fear of Palarse being above us if we lose on Saturday...

OzzieGull says...
5:25am Wed 3 Oct 12

Emille Heskey has just signed for my local A-League team - looks like Albion could have done worse - two poor results does not add up to a disaster but it puts more emphasis on the Derby game

twonk says...
5:53am Wed 3 Oct 12

tonytowner1 wrote:
Sure we want to put in those extra seats just now? When top and we can't make the place look close to full ....?
Orlandi looked class, Bridge broadly exciting and quality again, Kuzcak the same with a game saving save. Where's the target man? Are we going the whole season again hoping no one up front gets injured then? It's an obvious that having goal scorers is pretty important surely!!
We had the highest gate in the division. No one ever gives praise to the opposition on here and Ipswich played well. Those quick diagonal passes into the box would trouble any defense, something we haven't done for years. We're still 3rd with the best goal difference in the league.

Jonathan Mouette says...
7:48am Wed 3 Oct 12

Oh dear, it's perhaps time that someone woke up and smelt the coffee, Gus. In reality we haven't progressed tactically from last season. Defensively we are sound enough. Three very good additions to the side have bolstered us and even on a bad day we look next to impenetrable. The central midfield doesn't look too bad with Bridcutt and either Hammond or preferably Crofts doing the box-to-box donkey work. The rest is up for grabs... IMHO, in the absence of CMS, both Barker and Agdestein should be given a starting slot. They play together in the DS and understand each other's game. Together they could prove to be the targetmen so badly needed and allow two others to play off them. I suppose that would be Buckley and Barnes or Dobbie. If things didn't work out - ie we weren't scoring then the bench should provide the possible alternative solutions. Looking at the bench last night the solution simply wasn't there. Why Ryan Harley continues to occupy a spot on the bench remains a total mystery. Starting with the two lads from the DS up front won't lose a game - the defense is too good for that - but it will surely provide the best opportunity in the current situation of winning it.

A quick word for Will Hoskins... don't rush to get match fit - there is currently no room even on the bench for real strikers unless, of course, they have double-barrelled names... Sorry if it sounds negative but it really is frustrating.

mark by the sea says...
8:18am Wed 3 Oct 12

We need another forward and a centre back, clearly we don't have any real options when cms is out, and we won't if Greer gets injured or a ban.. Dunk is a fine player, but not in GG class.

BHAFC151 says...
8:21am Wed 3 Oct 12

I think tonights MOTM goes to the ballboys... a dazzling display but a team that was short... Well played ballboys!

SecondReserve says...
9:06am Wed 3 Oct 12

We flattered to deceive in the first 6 matches last season. At the moment it's starting to look as though we flattered to deeive in our first 7 games this season. 2 home matches against lowly struggling teams, only 1 point gained, only 1 goal scored and two poor performances. We've played 9 matches, only one of them against a team that is in the top 9. Rather worrying.

Far gull says...
9:45am Wed 3 Oct 12

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Oh dear, it's perhaps time that someone woke up and smelt the coffee, Gus. In reality we haven't progressed tactically from last season. Defensively we are sound enough. Three very good additions to the side have bolstered us and even on a bad day we look next to impenetrable. The central midfield doesn't look too bad with Bridcutt and either Hammond or preferably Crofts doing the box-to-box donkey work. The rest is up for grabs... IMHO, in the absence of CMS, both Barker and Agdestein should be given a starting slot. They play together in the DS and understand each other's game. Together they could prove to be the targetmen so badly needed and allow two others to play off them. I suppose that would be Buckley and Barnes or Dobbie. If things didn't work out - ie we weren't scoring then the bench should provide the possible alternative solutions. Looking at the bench last night the solution simply wasn't there. Why Ryan Harley continues to occupy a spot on the bench remains a total mystery. Starting with the two lads from the DS up front won't lose a game - the defense is too good for that - but it will surely provide the best opportunity in the current situation of winning it.

A quick word for Will Hoskins... don't rush to get match fit - there is currently no room even on the bench for real strikers unless, of course, they have double-barrelled names... Sorry if it sounds negative but it really is frustrating.
Glad you saw the same game as me jon. Am beginning to think we have the talent thanks to gus but,gus needs to be able to deploy them, not nessesarily the players fault,sad to say.

pjwilk says...
9:51am Wed 3 Oct 12

Dobbie and Barnes out bring in Barker and Agdestein.What have we got to loose.These two play well together in the Dev team.Or we need to bring in two quality loan forewards,a big bulldozer of a foreward.If you watch top forewards they just knock the opposition out of the way by strenth and determination,you can see the sweat pooring off them.How many Brighton players were bathed in sweat at the end of the match.

Cabin fever says...
9:53am Wed 3 Oct 12

pjwilk wrote:
Not a good display,not a lot of passion.Very few efforts on target,need more zip in their play,and another goal scorer.
The 11 from 15 not good enough for you?

Yes it sounded like we needed Macca or someone with their shooting boots on, but I don't get all the doom and gloom after one defeat and one draw.

We will lose games this season, and we will play badly - that much is a given. But this knee-jerk reaction after every single match is a little OTT, in my opinion.

suede27 says...
10:08am Wed 3 Oct 12

Mid table finish. I think that's a realistic hope.

MrHove says...
10:30am Wed 3 Oct 12

Most important thing for yesterday's game was that we did not lose, I was concerned that if we lost this game then perhaps it would be the start of a bad run.

The passing tonight was awful, El Abd's passing was shocking and apart from the couple of good tackles he made he had a bad game.

Dean Hammond - Seen him play twice now and on both occasions he doesnt look up to it, passing again was awful and his general awarness was poor, he also looked slow when chasing back so i'm not sure he should be a regular starter.

Dobbie - Still unsure what Dobbie is, in my opinion he is not a striker and I have real concerns if the quality is there to play behind CMS.

Orlandi showed that he does have quality and if he can stay fit he will win us games, he also showed that he can deliver a good ball in to the box from a set piece and has that "vicente" swag about him.

One last thing, the last two games have showed how much we miss CMS and Bruno, Barnes doesnt have that instinct to get into the box (which is something you either have or dont) and although Calderon is decent cover he's nowhere near the standard of Bruno when defending and going forward - I still think Albion will be around the top 8 come the end of the season but feel another season in the Championship would give us more time to get a decent team ready for the premier League.

Jonathan Mouette says...
10:49am Wed 3 Oct 12

Cabin fever wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Not a good display,not a lot of passion.Very few efforts on target,need more zip in their play,and another goal scorer.
The 11 from 15 not good enough for you?

Yes it sounded like we needed Macca or someone with their shooting boots on, but I don't get all the doom and gloom after one defeat and one draw.

We will lose games this season, and we will play badly - that much is a given. But this knee-jerk reaction after every single match is a little OTT, in my opinion.
Ii don't think the reaction is knee jerk as it has been coming over a period of 4 matches, not 2... We were very lucky to walk away with wins against Watford and Millwall and the relatively poor form and/or lack of tactical nouse continued in to the last 2 games. Strategically we have short comings and the opposition is quickly catching on.

Claude Back says...
10:50am Wed 3 Oct 12

campotolox wrote:
Caca,that is **** in english,if they cant win there home games give up, thats what they did,give your wages back,doughnuts coes to mind,over paid muppits?
You mention 'English' but surely, that is not your first language is it? However, there are some good schools around where you can learn it.

MelsTels says...
10:57am Wed 3 Oct 12

Disappointing last night
With the number of corners taken over the last two matches, why can't we do more with them?
If we have to play Dobbie and Barnes - Dobbie should be the midfield man - but, ideally, give someone else a chance - preferably a striker !!

the taffster says...
11:22am Wed 3 Oct 12

strength in depth is whats required and we are sadly lacking at the moment.if adgerstein,barker etc arent good enough for first team football,why are they at the club?.you need players that can step up to the plate.before too long gus will be saying we are not ready to go up this season,like last.the new training ground sounds great.but i do question again bha,s ambitions on the field.like letting murray go to palace for the sake of paying him a wage for his worth.theres been no adequate replacement.im not saynig break the wage structure at the club for all.but lets buy a quality striker and be done with it.

seagulljoe says...
1:02pm Wed 3 Oct 12

WoodingdeanDS wrote:
So, after my Sat post re Dobbie, this performance not just reinforces my view, but brings more fans to my way of thinking - he's not good enough! Just need Gus to bite the bullet and get shot of him. Trouble is, we need a decent centre forward to partner CMS - that's what the loan system is for.
Great thinking, let's judge him on just a couple of games. With that kind of thinking, surely you must be involved in high-level football management, what a genius!

The Phantom says...
2:02pm Wed 3 Oct 12

seagulljoe wrote:
WoodingdeanDS wrote:
So, after my Sat post re Dobbie, this performance not just reinforces my view, but brings more fans to my way of thinking - he's not good enough! Just need Gus to bite the bullet and get shot of him. Trouble is, we need a decent centre forward to partner CMS - that's what the loan system is for.
Great thinking, let's judge him on just a couple of games. With that kind of thinking, surely you must be involved in high-level football management, what a genius!
Yes Seagulljoe, I think you could be on to something there. Bournemouth have just sacked their manager.....I am sure WoodingdeanDS must be at the top of their list of suitable candidates.

barnieb says...
3:34pm Wed 3 Oct 12

5 points dropped at home to struggling teams in the space of a few days could prove very costly come the end of the season.Is there something about CMS's injury that we are not being told about?Boy do we need him back asap.Albion looked very ponderous in both the Birmingham and Ipswich games,reminded me of the back end of last season.

tooncgull says...
4:29pm Wed 3 Oct 12

A few over-reacting on here. Weve had two disappointing performances, and last night Albion were very poor....but thats what all seasons are like. Some good performaces, some poor ones. Anyone who has been through the Dark Days from 1994 ish through to 2009 must surely be able to keep this in perspective. Its only early October.
Lua Lua WAS poor last night, and Im a big fan of his. But once he discovered he couldnt beat his full backs, he seemed to lose all confidence. I'd like to see Dobbie given more of a chance than some of you on here... I think he looks quite promising, skillful, - I agree NOT a centre forward, but to play just behind the strikers.
Oh well, its all opinion - but I do wish posters on here would calm down a little bit.

Capt. Sensiblé says...
10:24am Fri 5 Oct 12

Buckley's class kept us in it last year, easily one of our most threatening players when he's rampaging forward. Hope he's fit this week

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