Poyet: We'll be a different team after the international break

9:30am Monday 8th October 2012 in Sport

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GUS Poyet has pledged Albion will be a "different team" after the international break.

The Seagulls could have all of their big guns back when they return to action against Middlesbrough at The Amex a week on Saturday.

Craig Mackail-Smith and Andrew Crofts (both hamstring) and long-term absentee (Vicente) were all missing again for the 0-0 draw at Derby.

Bruno made his comeback from groin trouble, while winger turned central striker Will Buckley went off in the first half with a recurrence of hamstring tightness.

Boss Poyet told The Argus: "The difference is we are going to have Crofty, we are going to have Macca, probably Vicente, a fully recovered Bruno and Bucker, so it will be a different team and we can go into the next game with plenty of options. Let's see if we can do a bit better.

"We were trying to get players that have played at the highest level and we got Tomasz (Kuszczak), Bruno, Bridgey (Wayne Bridge) and Crofty as the main ones and in the two games previous to this one we were missing two of them.

"On top of that, Macca, who started on fire, has been missing in the last three games. Sometimes, with a team like us, when you miss those key players you pay a little bit of a price."

A defeat and two draws from the last three games has dropped Albion from the top of the Championship to fifth but Poyet is still satisfied with their start.

He said: "I think we are nicely placed and we are doing what we want. We are in a great position with 18 points from ten games.

"It's up to us. The fitness is allright, the players are confident. Let's see if we can keep going."

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hastingsgull says...
10:22am Mon 8 Oct 12

The team certainly seem to have missed CMS, and let's hope for an improvement on the 20th, and in the ensuing "harder" away games.It is worrying that confidence seems to dip when CMS isn't playing -what happes if he is injured for a longer period. On transfer day, I was disappointed that a stirker had not been acquired, though it is easier said than done to get real quality -the loan strikers last season really were not quite up to it. To be fair to the club, a huge outlay on the magnificent stadium, and now the crucial training centre, all has to be paid for, and it is easy for the likes of me to say -spend x millions on a striker, when so much has already been spent. Perhaps we just need to be patient, as it is quite clear that the club will get to the premiership in the near future.

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hastingsgull says...
10:23am Mon 8 Oct 12

The team certainly seem to have missed CMS, and let's hope for an improvement on the 20th, and in the ensuing "harder" away games.It is worrying that confidence seems to dip when CMS isn't playing -what happes if he is injured for a longer period. On transfer day, I was disappointed that a stirker had not been acquired, though it is easier said than done to get real quality -the loan strikers last season really were not quite up to it. To be fair to the club, a huge outlay on the magnificent stadium, and now the crucial training centre, all has to be paid for, and it is easy for the likes of me to say -spend x millions on a striker, when so much has already been spent. Perhaps we just need to be patient, as it is quite clear that the club will get to the premiership in the near future.

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hastingsgull says...
10:23am Mon 8 Oct 12

The team certainly seem to have missed CMS, and let's hope for an improvement on the 20th, and in the ensuing "harder" away games.It is worrying that confidence seems to dip when CMS isn't playing -what happes if he is injured for a longer period. On transfer day, I was disappointed that a stirker had not been acquired, though it is easier said than done to get real quality -the loan strikers last season really were not quite up to it. To be fair to the club, a huge outlay on the magnificent stadium, and now the crucial training centre, all has to be paid for, and it is easy for the likes of me to say -spend x millions on a striker, when so much has already been spent. Perhaps we just need to be patient, as it is quite clear that the club will get to the premiership in the near future.

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hastingsgull says...
10:24am Mon 8 Oct 12

sorry about the message in triplicate -computer seemed to freeze.

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Hovite says...
11:11am Mon 8 Oct 12

It is a good post and worth 3 uploads ;o)

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dave from bexill says...
11:35am Mon 8 Oct 12

hastingsgull wrote:
The team certainly seem to have missed CMS, and let's hope for an improvement on the 20th, and in the ensuing "harder" away games.It is worrying that confidence seems to dip when CMS isn't playing -what happes if he is injured for a longer period. On transfer day, I was disappointed that a stirker had not been acquired, though it is easier said than done to get real quality -the loan strikers last season really were not quite up to it. To be fair to the club, a huge outlay on the magnificent stadium, and now the crucial training centre, all has to be paid for, and it is easy for the likes of me to say -spend x millions on a striker, when so much has already been spent. Perhaps we just need to be patient, as it is quite clear that the club will get to the premiership in the near future.
Absolutely right Hastings, although not sure I agree it was worth 3 uploads.

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LACHANCE says...
11:35am Mon 8 Oct 12

Patients is needed we will get to the Premiership sooner or later but when we do we want to stay there.So if it takes two or three more seasons in the championship so be it.Players will come and players will go and the team that takes us up,will possibly be completly different one.

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pinta harveys says...
11:42am Mon 8 Oct 12

LACHANCE wrote:
Patients is needed we will get to the Premiership sooner or later but when we do we want to stay there.So if it takes two or three more seasons in the championship so be it.Players will come and players will go and the team that takes us up,will possibly be completly different one.
we've got enough patients...although gus has said that they may well be back after the break :)

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fratsomrover says...
12:56pm Mon 8 Oct 12

LACHANCE wrote:
Patients is needed we will get to the Premiership sooner or later but when we do we want to stay there.So if it takes two or three more seasons in the championship so be it.Players will come and players will go and the team that takes us up,will possibly be completly different one.
Patients ? We've got enough patients already, we dont need any more. Vicente, Hoskins seem to be permanent patients.
Let's hope the "different team" we'll see after the break will be a winning team.

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Vince says...
1:50pm Mon 8 Oct 12

This club won't go any higher without an injection in at least one quality striker with skill, speed and the ability to put the ball in the net. There are some around in the lower divisions Akpro of Tranmere and MacLeod of Portsmouth. Why didn't we put in bids for Ricardo Fuller or Jermaine Beckford who have ended up at lesser clubs than us. Methinks we may have missed the boat, whilst other smaller clubs have snapped up some real quality forwards.

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dave from bexill says...
1:59pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Vince wrote:
This club won't go any higher without an injection in at least one quality striker with skill, speed and the ability to put the ball in the net. There are some around in the lower divisions Akpro of Tranmere and MacLeod of Portsmouth. Why didn't we put in bids for Ricardo Fuller or Jermaine Beckford who have ended up at lesser clubs than us. Methinks we may have missed the boat, whilst other smaller clubs have snapped up some real quality forwards.
How do you know we didn't?

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tug509 says...
2:44pm Mon 8 Oct 12

On the day we were finally given the go ahead for the Magnificent AMEX,i turned to my mate who is a glory hunter and passionately proclaimed we would be in the Premiership within 5 years of the first game.I think this is realistic and inevitable imho.Although we all would like to see this happen quicker,i agree with those who believe,that you cant run before you walk!..UTA

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LACHANCE says...
3:51pm Mon 8 Oct 12

sorry about spelling should have read patience.

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WisdomSpeaks says...
3:52pm Mon 8 Oct 12

I agree it's only a matter of time and I also agree we definitely need an injection upfront. What I find disappointing is Gus' seeming reluctance in giving at least a chance to youth in the striking roll.

After all its much better to give the young guys an opportunity when we are doing well rather than if we were struggling at the bottom.

I liked the bits I've seen of both Toby Agdeswhathisname and George Barker. I know they're young but isn't it a chance for them to show what they can do at a higher level?

Maybe good for their confidence as well instead of shuffling the pack when CMS happens to be out. It takes courage to do it but look how JFC did when he came in for a few games.

That's what they need to test themselves. It's great for team spirit as well. Just a thought.

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tug509 says...
4:03pm Mon 8 Oct 12

WisdomSpeaks..totall
y agree,and certainly with JFC he showed no fear at the responsibility,and i think you are right with TA andGB ,but possibly Gus is concerned with throwing them in at the deep end too quick! .Either way i think like you and many others ,they could surprise us all.Give them a chance IMHO...UTA

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Vince says...
5:02pm Mon 8 Oct 12

dave from bexill wrote:
Vince wrote: This club won't go any higher without an injection in at least one quality striker with skill, speed and the ability to put the ball in the net. There are some around in the lower divisions Akpro of Tranmere and MacLeod of Portsmouth. Why didn't we put in bids for Ricardo Fuller or Jermaine Beckford who have ended up at lesser clubs than us. Methinks we may have missed the boat, whilst other smaller clubs have snapped up some real quality forwards.
How do you know we didn't?
We might have put in bids, but like with Glenn Murray, Gus and Tony won't be held to ransom. I like Gus's principles, but sometimes you need to be a little bit flexible. Good strikers are like gold dust and you need to pay a liitle bit over the odds sometimes, like we are probably paying Bruno and Bridge more than some. Gus didn't obviously rate Murray that highly, but without his goals (and it was his 2 goals that gave them a 2-1 victory when it looked like Palace were going to their 3rd successive league defeat), Palace would almost certainly still be in the bottom half, and we would probably be top if we still had him. Murray has played an enormous part in Palace's resurgence, and whereas Zaha might have been let go at Xmas, if Palace are in the top 3 come December, Zaha might be persuaded to stay on and help Palace to promotion (possibly at our expense). We let Murray go for the sake of a couple of grand a week! Peanuts.
If we don't get promotion this season, will we be able to keep hold of CMS and Buckley, Bruno, Bridge, Kuszsak et al?
How many supporters would be distraught at Palace going up instead of ourselves???
last night i watched the DVD of our goals winning promotion from Div1. Most of Murray's goals were quality strikes...good touch, good heading, powerful shots, good technique and skills. I wonder sometimes about Gus's ability to spot a good striker, bearing in mind Paynter, Vokes etc

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tug509 says...
5:27pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Vince,what you say about GM is true,but he took a liberty with Gus and our club,the same club that gave him his big chance.Had he pulled his neck in and been reasonable,i believe he would still be an Albion player,getting the adoration we gave him at the Withdean X10,and they may finish above us(i cant see it) but they are not a better club,and GM knows it .UTA

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Alfie T says...
5:43pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Vince,Tug, I agree with a lot of what you say regarding Murray, I was and still am a fan of his. He did what was best for him, I understand the salary Palace were prepared to offer was significantly more than we offered him, although who knows for sure. However he is gone now and as much as I hate seeing him scoring for them we move on. CMS aside, I agree with Vince that Gus has not got the greatest record to date with strikers,but clubs from the Prem to league 2 are after a proven goal scorers, they are hard to find unless you unearth a Zamora. I hope we find one soon, and without doubt we are able to offer more than we ever have as a club.

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ballantrrae says...
5:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
I agree it's only a matter of time and I also agree we definitely need an injection upfront. What I find disappointing is Gus' seeming reluctance in giving at least a chance to youth in the striking roll.

After all its much better to give the young guys an opportunity when we are doing well rather than if we were struggling at the bottom.

I liked the bits I've seen of both Toby Agdeswhathisname and George Barker. I know they're young but isn't it a chance for them to show what they can do at a higher level?

Maybe good for their confidence as well instead of shuffling the pack when CMS happens to be out. It takes courage to do it but look how JFC did when he came in for a few games.

That's what they need to test themselves. It's great for team spirit as well. Just a thought.
Interestingly in his 'Matchzone' section in today's Argus Brian Owen under the 'Attacking conundrum' section says
" But there appears to be no cover for Craig Mackail-Smith ".
In the light of Hastingulls excellent post WisdomSpeaks suggestion must be worth a try. It is obviously the most economic solution if it works.
It would not prevent the Albion acquiring the target man type striker Poyet wants as and when a suitable candidate appears at the right price. However since we have been looking for the 'right' candidate for at least 15 months now other options should be explored.
Talking of potential strikers I believe that both Conor Wickham (Sunderland) and Macheda (Manchester United) might be available on loan.

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Jonathan Mouette says...
6:12pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Read agin the comments of GP and find the word Hoskins... It doesn't appear and one may be lead to believe there isn't a future at the AMEX for him which would be a great shame. I hope it was just an onversight - fingers crossed.

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seagullsforever73 says...
6:34pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Can we all get over the Glen Murray! He's gone an we have far better than him.

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wiseman of hove says...
6:40pm Mon 8 Oct 12

ballantrrae wrote:
WisdomSpeaks wrote:
I agree it's only a matter of time and I also agree we definitely need an injection upfront. What I find disappointing is Gus' seeming reluctance in giving at least a chance to youth in the striking roll.

After all its much better to give the young guys an opportunity when we are doing well rather than if we were struggling at the bottom.

I liked the bits I've seen of both Toby Agdeswhathisname and George Barker. I know they're young but isn't it a chance for them to show what they can do at a higher level?

Maybe good for their confidence as well instead of shuffling the pack when CMS happens to be out. It takes courage to do it but look how JFC did when he came in for a few games.

That's what they need to test themselves. It's great for team spirit as well. Just a thought.
Interestingly in his 'Matchzone' section in today's Argus Brian Owen under the 'Attacking conundrum' section says
" But there appears to be no cover for Craig Mackail-Smith ".
In the light of Hastingulls excellent post WisdomSpeaks suggestion must be worth a try. It is obviously the most economic solution if it works.
It would not prevent the Albion acquiring the target man type striker Poyet wants as and when a suitable candidate appears at the right price. However since we have been looking for the 'right' candidate for at least 15 months now other options should be explored.
Talking of potential strikers I believe that both Conor Wickham (Sunderland) and Macheda (Manchester United) might be available on loan.
I'd been thinking that Conor Wickham might fit the bill - I would hope that the manager has thought about him.
Looking thru' the posts today, I certainly hope that 'Hosko' is not discarded before he has had a real chance to show his ability.
On the Glenn Murray debate, I just wish he was alongside CMS - simple as that. As things stand, there simply is no cover for CMS whilst we seem to be awash with midfield players and 'link' players.

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Alfie T says...
6:42pm Mon 8 Oct 12

seagullsforever73 wrote:
Can we all get over the Glen Murray! He's gone an we have far better than him.
Like for like,they are ?

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Hovite says...
7:00pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Well if QPR are still in the drop zone at Christmas and we are chasing high for promotion, I calculate a possibilty of a Zamora return.

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wiseman of hove says...
7:26pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Hovite wrote:
Well if QPR are still in the drop zone at Christmas and we are chasing high for promotion, I calculate a possibilty of a Zamora return.
I concurr with that. The last window looked a bit too early for a loan return but I kept hoping. The two certainties are that Zamora is not enjoying it at QPR and Hughes will not take them out of the relegation zone. No comparison, of course, when you compare the two grounds. I think Loftus Road only holds about 18000. Puts in perspective just how lucky we supporters are.

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tonytowner1 says...
8:22pm Mon 8 Oct 12

"The Seagulls could have all of their big guns back when they return to action against Middlesbrough at The Amex a week on Saturday ...." - been fooled by this type of comment and then disappointed, too many times in the last year or two. We'll get injuries - we seem to be massively and continually hampered by them to normally our best and/ or most exciting/ effective players - and need decent cover. We've all said enough now about the need for a target man - Cardiff, Birmingham and Ipswich at home and then Derby have all made it patently clear that an inability to be incisive, break down teams that aim to stifle and show us to be inefective at set pieces without a "target" is an issue. When will we see Bruno's "secret weapon" (or indeed that of Lopez based on what FIFA '13 shows! It's good quality, decent, well thought through footie but still missing something for sure

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Clean Sheet says...
8:59pm Mon 8 Oct 12

BZ is still Prem League capability, and will not drop down to the the champ. Would you?

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Hovite says...
9:29pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Bridge has dropped down, its nothing to be ashamed of to be in a promotion race rather than just being in a mid flight Prem club.

If the target man we get is Zamora it may just be worth the wait to snap him up in January rather than getting someone else in now.

It is only a theory but not unrealistic and may be the reason why the club is being patient on this position.

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VegasSeagull says...
10:06pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Regarding the striker issue.

If we opted to play one of the youngsters, when CMS is not available, it might look like a gamble but recent results suggest not. The worst that could happen is that they don't score, so what, it's hardly a problem if no one else is.

If we dipped into the transfer market for a loan striker and the player was from a lower devision, that would be a gamble, Peter Ward was great for us but when he stepped up a division he did very little.

If we look to borrow a striker from the upper division we would find ourselves in a bidding war, a war we probably don't have the budget for.

Our best hope of filling the vacancy, filling it at a price we can afford, would be to locate a striker nearing the end of his career and out of contract. January seems to be the most likely time to solve our problem, I doubt anything could happen before then. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we recruited from over seas again.



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Vince says...
11:03pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Re: Peter Ward.

17 goals in Div2 now the Championship and then 13 goals in our first ever season in the old Div1 can hardly be considered as "very little"! Indeed in that season, Terry Venables said Ward was outstanding and should play for England, after he saw Wardie take the Palace defence apart in taking us to a 3-0 victory. Ron Greenwood never heeded his call, and like many of the "old guard" was far too conservative in his selections. Ward did make the squad but wasn't played for more than a few minutes, despite a superb performance for England U21's.

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mickage says...
1:27am Tue 9 Oct 12

Peter Ward was the most talented Brighton player I've ever seen.......my question to you Albion fans is this...would you rather see Brighton more or less continuously topping the championship and enjoy watching them winning most weeks....or go up to the Premiership and endure week after week of demoralising and humiliating defeats...?

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Baldseagull says...
2:02am Tue 9 Oct 12

mickage wrote:
Peter Ward was the most talented Brighton player I've ever seen.......my question to you Albion fans is this...would you rather see Brighton more or less continuously topping the championship and enjoy watching them winning most weeks....or go up to the Premiership and endure week after week of demoralising and humiliating defeats...?
I would like to see Brighton more or less topping the Premier League and enjoy watching them win most weeks.
Truthfully, I enjoyed the 3-3 draw with Leeds last season much more than the 1-0 win against Newcastle, and the atmosphere in the defeat at home to Burnley was fantastic.
Unless we are in the bottom half and need the points for comfort, the result is less important than the performance for me.

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Clean Sheet says...
8:27am Tue 9 Oct 12

Yes Wardy stepped up to the old Div 1 far quicker than BZ to the Premiership. I'm not knocking BZ, as he was outstanding for us, but Wardy was more clinical in front of goal in my opinion.

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Hovite says...
12:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12

I have to agree with you Baldseagull about performance being more important than the result.

I know the feeling of a disappointing win. Wrexham away last year was a good example of an awful win and nothing to be inspired by. I was actually gutted for Wrexham, they were by far the better team on the day.

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Gibseagull says...
8:14am Thu 11 Oct 12

seagullsforever73 wrote:
Can we all get over the Glen Murray! He's gone an we have far better than him.
Easier said than done I'm afraid, especially when he appears to be scoring for fun with our caravan dwelling friends up the road and without CMS in the side we appear to have temporarily hit the buffers

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