Poyet explores loan striker option (From The Argus)

“I don’t think the chairman would disagree with me that maybe if we don’t score on Tuesday we need a player. I think it’s an easy decision, then if we can get it or not we’ll see."

WHAT!



Too little too late I think Gus may have taken as as far as he can and it is time for someone else

I do not think they will be waiting till after the Leicester result to move for a loan striker. The result there will not change the problem. I assume there is considerable activity going on right now and noting somehere that Leeds are apparently moving for Kenwynne Jones on loan, I would hope that he is one of the targets and we will 'sell' this club to him.

Playing the right players from the start might get us goals.

Maybe your support for the Albion has gone as far as it can Cash Bull, and it's time you found another club to give your fickle support.
Meanwhile, the rest of us true fans will continue to support Gus in what he is doing for this club. You obviously fail to realise how difficult it is for a club like ours to attract a true Premiership class striker who can bag 20 to 25 goals a season. So many other clubs, with more money than we have, are looking for exactly that.

you've been sussed out gusset.... beat barnsley 5 - 1 then sign 4 players..... sickening, truly sickening....... dobbie is mean't to be a striker and you signed him.... ... you've found your level gusset... time for you to go.... before the 20,000 or so amex cockroaches start crawling back under their stones

I think the answer is sitting in Man City's reserves he goes by the name of John Guidetti. Amazing record in Dutch football but obviously struggling to make the bench at city
http://www.mcfc.co.u
k/Players/Strikers/J
ohn-Guidetti

Cash Bull wrote:
“I don’t think the chairman would disagree with me that maybe if we don’t score on Tuesday we need a player. I think it’s an easy decision, then if we can get it or not we’ll see."

WHAT!



Too little too late I think Gus may have taken as as far as he can and it is time for someone else

Yep totally agree. What an awful, AWFUL start to the season we've endured.

Totally clueless to have the best defence in the league, playing rubbish defensive football with League 2-standard players, and languishing in eighth in a really easy league, and a whopping four points off the promotion places ALREADY.

Gus, Bloom, Barber and Gully OUT!

Oh, sorry, I thought it was Overreaction Day.

we should get a new all black kit and be known as 'the cockroaches'

We knew we needed this striker for 18mths has Gus finally realised we were right and its cost us a lot of games and points.The right man would be worth his weight in gold.Also dump Crofts and Hammond and buy Trotter fom Millwall.

7Rookie wrote:
I think the answer is sitting in Man City's reserves he goes by the name of John Guidetti. Amazing record in Dutch football but obviously struggling to make the bench at city
http://www.mcfc.co.u

k/Players/Strikers/J

ohn-Guidetti

He's just signed a new 3 yr contract on the 18th. but we do need another option up front if the youngsters are not going to get a chance to play.

I was at the game and thought we played some very good stuff. Not one of the 14 players used had a poor game. If we had won 1-0 everyone would be shouting their praises.

Gus has produced a superb style of play which will ultimately make us another Swansea - good to watch and successful.

Thanks Gus

magoo wrote:
Playing the right players from the start might get us goals.

Could not agree more

Al Bion wrote:
Maybe your support for the Albion has gone as far as it can Cash Bull, and it's time you found another club to give your fickle support. Meanwhile, the rest of us true fans will continue to support Gus in what he is doing for this club. You obviously fail to realise how difficult it is for a club like ours to attract a true Premiership class striker who can bag 20 to 25 goals a season. So many other clubs, with more money than we have, are looking for exactly that.

+1. There are some truly rediculous posts on here. We are a Champ top half team. It is over 20 years since we could say that. All thanks to GP and TB, with DK's tenacity in the lean years. I can't think of a manager I would rather have over GP at the moment.

If you out there are prepared to put more money in than TB, please offer it up. I'm sure TB would bite your hand off. It is really easy for us to say "open your cheque book". Always easy to spend other peoples money!

I think CMS is the 20 to 30 goals a season striker we need but we are still not playing to his strengths. I would like to see a target man to play along side him and this may also improve our goals from corners ratio which must be awful.
Can anyone else explain why we play the 451 formation at home games? Lets be more positive at home and the goals will hopefully come.

The only real problem on Saturday was the 15 or so high balls we put into their penalty area for 5'10" CMS to try and head home against Woodgate and Bikey, both of whom hardly had to break sweat all game as they nodded the balls away from danger. That's why we need a strong, tall and skilful striker. Such a player would've scored a hat trick on Saturday and probably created space for CMS to score a couple too.

We've moved on so far in the last couple of years under the Albion set up - Chairman, Manager, Coaching, etc etc - from struggling 1st Division to one of the best Championship sides
So why are there all these knockers about? We are here to support the team, so support them
We all know Rome wasn't built in a day - the Albion are moving positively in the right direction
I suppose these same knockers would like us to go out and buy strikers that turned out to be useless - so they could carry on their moaning
I'm getting fed up with all the gripe - let's have constructive thoughts on here for a change
That's off my chest - now I feel better !!

It's fast becoming Groundhog season. Everything is a re-run of last year to a T.

At least we'll be able to look forward to some goals at the next home game (please can someone just tell TK not to lump the ball upfield to the Leeds keeper when we are winning 3-2 with seconds left on the clock).

Barn door loan signing anyone?

I haven't bothered to read the argus comments board in recent weeks - as the over reacting attention seekers on here ALWAYS lead me to get really annoyed (even when we were sitting pretty at the top of the league!). Unfortunately i stumbled across it again today - and the absolute clueless Glory Hunters are out in force again. Do not get me wrong - i love the fact we are getting 26,000+ at the Amex - and 20,000 new supporters (or old supporters) have joined the journey... AND THIS IS THE POINT.. it is a journey.. we are not the finished article (in terms of stadium - set up - team etc). You have to experience the lows to appreciate the highs. THIS PEOPLE, IS A HIGH... Moan when we are languishing at the bottom of Div 3, sitting in a converted athletics track in the pouring rain. Moan when the latest player we buy for £5k and some tracksuits from a non league team turns out to be a donkey (but thats the best we could attract). Moan when our manager with no charisma or experience, has no idea how to change a losing streak of 10 matches...
DO NOT MOAN with TOP HALF OF CHAMPIONSHIP/SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS/26,000 plus SUPPORTERS/ONE OF THE BEST STADIUMS IN COUNTRY/AN OUTSTANDING COACHING SET UP AND MANAGEMENT TEAM and the fact that this is JUST THE BEGINNING...
If you would like to support a team that has it already in place - then by all means travel to Chelsea or Manchester and watch them. If you can not enjoy the journey - then what is the point??? The clue is in the name "Football Supporter".. you support your team.. Highs and Lows...

kenwynne jones,tyronne barnett,glenn murray,they all fit the bill, everyone has been telling gus a forward was needed for weeks.hallileua.shou
ld never have sold murray,he was quality and is proving it at palace.all for the sake of ot paying him his worth.a few grand more,it was a monumental error of managment.

Come on DC Hove Bloom is a legend and Gus is on his way to becoming one but being a supporter should not stop us from having views and opinions!

magoo wrote:
Playing the right players from the start might get us goals.

Yep, Barnes has t be dropped, was very poor saturday. Start Lua lua and Buckley instead of Lopez and Hammond and play Dobbie instead of Barnes up front with CMS

Yeah opinions are welcomed - as long as they are put into perspective.. and a lot of people do not do that (yours seem constructive and have a fair point to them). I want us to be successful - but not at "any cost". Where people think that we have a god given right to be in the prem next year i will never know. I was as frustrated at anyone that we did not score on Sat.. and am hoping the long midweek trip to Leicester sees us win (i do not go to see us lose or be "plucky" little brighton - i go to see us WIN) but i am also realistic that we have no right to expect success straight away.. and whilst we are waiting for this success i am thoroughly enjoying the ride..i would recommend others do the same

To be fair to Gus I think he always knew what he had in the likes of CMS, Barnes and Lua Lua and that he thought that the 4 new singings would complete the puzzel.
It is very clear that the new guys have not got their names on the score sheet as they expected to. I don't think this is a major problem as I feel they will deliver once they all get a chance to play more games together, injuries have curtailed the amount of time they have had to work together.

Gus has let it be known that he prefers a long term loan or outright purchase as opposed to a short term deal and that preference might be what has stopped us from getting a striker/target man.
Some players in the premiership may not have wanted to go out on a long term loan until they found out just how they stood with the own club. Now that several matches have been played the picture for many of them is clearer, now could be the time when we get what we need.

We are in a good position, I don't see any need for panic as two or three wins will change everything and we are capable of hitting another winning streak.

the taffster wrote:
kenwynne jones,tyronne barnett,glenn murray,they all fit the bill, everyone has been telling gus a forward was needed for weeks.hallileua.shou

ld never have sold murray,he was quality and is proving it at palace.all for the sake of ot paying him his worth.a few grand more,it was a monumental error of managment.

*Groan*

Murray has gone. Get over it. He was ok when he was in the mood, but CMS is a far better player in my opinion.

And you are overlooking the fact that teams are coming to the Amex, set up not to lose, because they know if they engage the Albion in a proper football match, they are going to get tonked.

We are very near to having a great team with real promotion prospects. The best defence in the Championship, and just one piece of the jigsaw away from having a very potent attack.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but I do get fed up with the moaning minnies, especially when Murray is mentioned.

The GusBus has not broken down,Gus just needs put the clutch in and change into a different gear,the cogs we hope then will react better/ faster.Procrastinati
on from the back 4 does not help.Fed-up with the comments,
we will learn from this match /we will take the positives everytime we lose from players.Gus teach them VISION,CREATIVITY.I got an earlier flight back from Las Vagas to see the match disappointed,also disappointed Vagasgull did not take up the invite for a beer with me,Felt a bit of a wolly sitting in the bar with an Albion shirt on, they would not allow me in the casino so I had to go and change.Somehow I don`t think he actually lives there,A gut feeling.

Dave in Hastings wrote:

the taffster wrote: kenwynne jones,tyronne barnett,glenn murray,they all fit the bill, everyone has been telling gus a forward was needed for weeks.hallileua.shou ld never have sold murray,he was quality and is proving it at palace.all for the sake of ot paying him his worth.a few grand more,it was a monumental error of managment.

*Groan* Murray has gone. Get over it. He was ok when he was in the mood, but CMS is a far better player in my opinion. And you are overlooking the fact that teams are coming to the Amex, set up not to lose, because they know if they engage the Albion in a proper football match, they are going to get tonked. We are very near to having a great team with real promotion prospects. The best defence in the Championship, and just one piece of the jigsaw away from having a very potent attack. We are all entitled to our opinions, but I do get fed up with the moaning minnies, especially when Murray is mentioned.

Very little is certain in life or in soccer but two things are. Murray will not be wearing the stripes again and Bobby won't either. I would predict that when Bobby is nearing the end of his career he will be heading in my direction just as Lampard and Bridge will. It really is time to forget about both of them.

Cabin fever wrote:

Cash Bull wrote:
“I don’t think the chairman would disagree with me that maybe if we don’t score on Tuesday we need a player. I think it’s an easy decision, then if we can get it or not we’ll see."

WHAT!



Too little too late I think Gus may have taken as as far as he can and it is time for someone else

Yep totally agree. What an awful, AWFUL start to the season we've endured.

Totally clueless to have the best defence in the league, playing rubbish defensive football with League 2-standard players, and languishing in eighth in a really easy league, and a whopping four points off the promotion places ALREADY.

Gus, Bloom, Barber and Gully OUT!

Oh, sorry, I thought it was Overreaction Day.

Haaaa! Had me going for a bit there! Top post, Cabin Fever. Would be nice to land another Striker even if we win at Leicester. Thought GG had a poor game or is that just me being critical? For the record, as many above also say, "I am more than happy with BHA's progress, I,m still moved to the odd tear on the few occasions I do make it to The Amex, I can still hardly believe it". There, said and done, UTA.....

B.Z. didn't seem too happy at QPR yesterday, I know he will be expensive, but cheaper on loan, if we could acquire him short term I think he would be ideal backup for CMS.

If that pairing was successful towards the end of the season and promotion in sight,with the sizeable rewards available could we not then purchase him outright, keeping him in the Premiership?

It seems a viable investment at this time given the fact that the defence appears sorted and the only missing link is up front.

pappaK.
I did reply to the two offers you kindly made regarding hooking up for a drink. The first of the offers was on a wednesday at 9pm and the second was for 10pm. I recall saying that whilst I liked the idea I didn't like the timing.

My day starts at around 4am most days so to meet anyone anywhere at 10pm is sadly not on. .

wiltshire seagull wrote:

Cabin fever wrote:

Cash Bull wrote: “I don’t think the chairman would disagree with me that maybe if we don’t score on Tuesday we need a player. I think it’s an easy decision, then if we can get it or not we’ll see." WHAT! Too little too late I think Gus may have taken as as far as he can and it is time for someone else

Yep totally agree. What an awful, AWFUL start to the season we've endured. Totally clueless to have the best defence in the league, playing rubbish defensive football with League 2-standard players, and languishing in eighth in a really easy league, and a whopping four points off the promotion places ALREADY. Gus, Bloom, Barber and Gully OUT! Oh, sorry, I thought it was Overreaction Day.

Haaaa! Had me going for a bit there! Top post, Cabin Fever. Would be nice to land another Striker even if we win at Leicester. Thought GG had a poor game or is that just me being critical? For the record, as many above also say, "I am more than happy with BHA's progress, I,m still moved to the odd tear on the few occasions I do make it to The Amex, I can still hardly believe it". There, said and done, UTA.....

Agree about GG I have never felt he is that comfortable playing the ball out of defence….also he always seems to want to blame someone else for mistakes and it was hilarious on Saturday when he appeared to blame TK for not saving his deflection

Being generally happy about my 33rd season of all things albion (this is a statement not a certificate of footballing knowledge or excellence) I am not moaning and refer only to the article above.
I was tempted at first to utter those immortal words from Dr Watson, 'No s**t Sherlock' and rant on about how we've all been saying this since the departure of a certain forward (no not barn door Billy). But it has been clearly evident that my mate Gus has seen the clues and tried to police the situation for some time. This has been at the expense of loans and a belief that we could pass our way around the problem. We do not have the alternatives required currently on the payroll, so the real mystery is why it has taken so long and allowing for the peculiarities of form etc etc. There's a story in there somewhere, maybe we will be told one day (Andy?)
Will we get another stop gap? Or a player who will do what is required on a loan to buy basis? Barnes was horrendously deep and ineffective in the first half and whoever we get will need to have the nouse to take players out of the game with their movement (as well as stick the ball in the net!!!). Whilst I know we will not play the traditional two up front pairing, I do hope that Gus will look a little more closely at supporting the front man. We seem to have several players capable of pinging it in the box but this doesn't work if the target is crowded out by defenders on a ratio of two (or three, on occasions on Saturday) against one. The midfielders were not mobile enough to provide the support on Saturday but Boro were very good at a patient, passing, counter attacking game. The amount of chances created perhaps belies our over cautious approach at home (hence no support from central midfield).
Apart from the WUMS and idiots on here, I don't think any of us are seriously hacked off with what has been on offer. Merely frustrated at a problem which is obvious to all but the tactically impaired and the amount of time it is taking to solve it. Counter to this is the argument that this has been on the agenda for the best part of a year now. I previously posted that perhaps Gus saw a little bit too much of Spain in the Euro's and thought he could get away with it. But even they had Torres in reserve...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
Being generally happy about my 33rd season of all things albion (this is a statement not a certificate of footballing knowledge or excellence) I am not moaning and refer only to the article above.
I was tempted at first to utter those immortal words from Dr Watson, 'No s**t Sherlock' and rant on about how we've all been saying this since the departure of a certain forward (no not barn door Billy). But it has been clearly evident that my mate Gus has seen the clues and tried to police the situation for some time. This has been at the expense of loans and a belief that we could pass our way around the problem. We do not have the alternatives required currently on the payroll, so the real mystery is why it has taken so long and allowing for the peculiarities of form etc etc. There's a story in there somewhere, maybe we will be told one day (Andy?)
Will we get another stop gap? Or a player who will do what is required on a loan to buy basis? Barnes was horrendously deep and ineffective in the first half and whoever we get will need to have the nouse to take players out of the game with their movement (as well as stick the ball in the net!!!). Whilst I know we will not play the traditional two up front pairing, I do hope that Gus will look a little more closely at supporting the front man. We seem to have several players capable of pinging it in the box but this doesn't work if the target is crowded out by defenders on a ratio of two (or three, on occasions on Saturday) against one. The midfielders were not mobile enough to provide the support on Saturday but Boro were very good at a patient, passing, counter attacking game. The amount of chances created perhaps belies our over cautious approach at home (hence no support from central midfield).
Apart from the WUMS and idiots on here, I don't think any of us are seriously hacked off with what has been on offer. Merely frustrated at a problem which is obvious to all but the tactically impaired and the amount of time it is taking to solve it. Counter to this is the argument that this has been on the agenda for the best part of a year now. I previously posted that perhaps Gus saw a little bit too much of Spain in the Euro's and thought he could get away with it. But even they had Torres in reserve...

Spot on.

so spot on ...have to agree with with every word...

As someone who spent some years living on Teesside I formed an affection for the Boro, bettered only by my deep love of the Albion. I do on occasion read an excellent Boro blog written at least weekly by a journalist from the Middlesbrough Evening Gazette, Anthony Vickers, far and away the best 'local' football journalist in the businness, helped I guess by the fact that he's Boro through and through and to my certain knowledge has turned down overtones from the national press, such is his love of the area and the Boro.Anyway. sorry to be a bore about another club, but in this instance I thought fans might be interested to read his blog regarding Saturdays game and in particular about out team and club.You can read him on 'Anthony Vickers, Untypical Boro' or by going onto the Middlesbrough Evening Gazette and following the thread. UTA

graham w wrote:
so spot on ...have to agree with with every word...

yes - count me in as well

From listening to the radio commentary on Sat it occurred to me that Brighton just didn't have enough support going forward. There were crosses coming in but noone there. If you are going to play 4 5 1 , surely the idea is to get the central midfielders forward on the end of some chances, like a Lampard type role. With Bridcutt providing the defensive screen surely we could afford to be more adventurous in midfield. With only CMS up front we need the likes of a Crofts, Orlandi, Vicente if he's still with us, or Dobbie to become the second striker and notch 15 goals in a season.

Gus has around 11 midfield players at his disposal now. Isn't one of them capable of getting forward and supporting CMS or scoring a goal now and again?

I know I leave myself open to abuse on this board for having the temerity to criticise the manager but he had two weeks to prepare for the Middlesbrough game and came up with the same sterile formation.

We've been lucky enough to have three excellent wide players at the club over the last season or so - Buckley, LuaLua and Noone - yet not one of them ever seems to be given a consistent run in the side.

How could you possibly go into a game against Middlesbrough and their towering central defenders without a recognised wide man or a Plan B?

Poyet has taken the Albion to a whole new level but, of course, with that comes higher expectations.

He can complain all he wants about not having the striker he needs to complete his squad but he's had more than enough time to do something about it. Right now, he is being outcoached by the likes of Lee Clark, Paul Jewell and Tony Mowbray.

dave from bexill wrote:
As someone who spent some years living on Teesside I formed an affection for the Boro, bettered only by my deep love of the Albion. I do on occasion read an excellent Boro blog written at least weekly by a journalist from the Middlesbrough Evening Gazette, Anthony Vickers, far and away the best 'local' football journalist in the businness, helped I guess by the fact that he's Boro through and through and to my certain knowledge has turned down overtones from the national press, such is his love of the area and the Boro.Anyway. sorry to be a bore about another club, but in this instance I thought fans might be interested to read his blog regarding Saturdays game and in particular about out team and club.You can read him on 'Anthony Vickers, Untypical Boro' or by going onto the Middlesbrough Evening Gazette and following the thread. UTA

Excellent well written article. Nice to see reference to fantastic stadium and friendly atmosphere.

Also agree with some other posters. There isn't much point getting a new squad player in unless he's exceptionally good and can improve the 1st team. Otherwise we may aswell stick with what we've got and be more patient with the likes of Dobbie, Hoskins, or give Agdestein a go. Why not drop one of the 3 holding midfielders to make space for another attacker, or even an extra winger roaming (Buckley should definately be starting but I also like the understanding developing between Lopez and Bruno). Would rather bring in 1 or 2 top class players than 4 or 5 average ones who aren't really going to make much difference.

VegasSeagull wrote:
pappaK.
I did reply to the two offers you kindly made regarding hooking up for a drink. The first of the offers was on a wednesday at 9pm and the second was for 10pm. I recall saying that whilst I liked the idea I didn't like the timing.

My day starts at around 4am most days so to meet anyone anywhere at 10pm is sadly not on. .

Next time I am in Vegas for a Omaha invite,I will let you pick the time and place VegasSeagull,I will invite Gus and Tony along.Tony loves a game of Omaha as I recall and Gus is a great at keeping his cards close to his chest as we all know

I think our main man has just about said it all really. Gp recognises the need for a good solid hold up striker that can not only score goals but also hold up the ball, link play and bring others in to the game. I think he is 100% justified in wanting and waiting for the right guy for the job although i do believe like many others we had the idealman before. Anyway, Ill not go there again today buteedless to say i hope the new guy arrives soon because i have to believe that our season and where we finish rides on it. Youre doing a great job GP and and I have every faith in you. Keep solvent and only get what we can afford and should that take another season so be it... Just be sure that we dont lose our Stars in the mean time meaning you have to start all over again. Thanks for what you have done.

Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

Dave in Hastings wrote:

the taffster wrote:
kenwynne jones,tyronne barnett,glenn murray,they all fit the bill, everyone has been telling gus a forward was needed for weeks.hallileua.shou


ld never have sold murray,he was quality and is proving it at palace.all for the sake of ot paying him his worth.a few grand more,it was a monumental error of managment.

*Groan*

Murray has gone. Get over it. He was ok when he was in the mood, but CMS is a far better player in my opinion.

And you are overlooking the fact that teams are coming to the Amex, set up not to lose, because they know if they engage the Albion in a proper football match, they are going to get tonked.

We are very near to having a great team with real promotion prospects. The best defence in the Championship, and just one piece of the jigsaw away from having a very potent attack.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but I do get fed up with the moaning minnies, especially when Murray is mentioned.

We ideally are looking for a six foot plus striker,who can hold up the ball and link in with our other front men,needs to be good in the air both in attack and defence,have great movement and awareness off the ball,and score from inside and outside the box. Anyone come to mind?

Thought Gus always used the LOAN striker formation.

Alfie T wrote:

Dave in Hastings wrote:

the taffster wrote:
kenwynne jones,tyronne barnett,glenn murray,they all fit the bill, everyone has been telling gus a forward was needed for weeks.hallileua.shou



ld never have sold murray,he was quality and is proving it at palace.all for the sake of ot paying him his worth.a few grand more,it was a monumental error of managment.

*Groan*

Murray has gone. Get over it. He was ok when he was in the mood, but CMS is a far better player in my opinion.

And you are overlooking the fact that teams are coming to the Amex, set up not to lose, because they know if they engage the Albion in a proper football match, they are going to get tonked.

We are very near to having a great team with real promotion prospects. The best defence in the Championship, and just one piece of the jigsaw away from having a very potent attack.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but I do get fed up with the moaning minnies, especially when Murray is mentioned.

We ideally are looking for a six foot plus striker,who can hold up the ball and link in with our other front men,needs to be good in the air both in attack and defence,have great movement and awareness off the ball,and score from inside and outside the box. Anyone come to mind?

Do you mean like those Huge Strikers at Barca.I think the Game is in a state of flux and teams are beginning to be set up differently.

Alfie T wrote:

Dave in Hastings wrote:

the taffster wrote:
kenwynne jones,tyronne barnett,glenn murray,they all fit the bill, everyone has been telling gus a forward was needed for weeks.hallileua.shou



ld never have sold murray,he was quality and is proving it at palace.all for the sake of ot paying him his worth.a few grand more,it was a monumental error of managment.

*Groan*

Murray has gone. Get over it. He was ok when he was in the mood, but CMS is a far better player in my opinion.

And you are overlooking the fact that teams are coming to the Amex, set up not to lose, because they know if they engage the Albion in a proper football match, they are going to get tonked.

We are very near to having a great team with real promotion prospects. The best defence in the Championship, and just one piece of the jigsaw away from having a very potent attack.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but I do get fed up with the moaning minnies, especially when Murray is mentioned.

We ideally are looking for a six foot plus striker,who can hold up the ball and link in with our other front men,needs to be good in the air both in attack and defence,have great movement and awareness off the ball,and score from inside and outside the box. Anyone come to mind?

Yes Superman.

pjwilk wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Dave in Hastings wrote:

the taffster wrote: kenwynne jones,tyronne barnett,glenn murray,they all fit the bill, everyone has been telling gus a forward was needed for weeks.hallileua.shou ld never have sold murray,he was quality and is proving it at palace.all for the sake of ot paying him his worth.a few grand more,it was a monumental error of managment.

*Groan* Murray has gone. Get over it. He was ok when he was in the mood, but CMS is a far better player in my opinion. And you are overlooking the fact that teams are coming to the Amex, set up not to lose, because they know if they engage the Albion in a proper football match, they are going to get tonked. We are very near to having a great team with real promotion prospects. The best defence in the Championship, and just one piece of the jigsaw away from having a very potent attack. We are all entitled to our opinions, but I do get fed up with the moaning minnies, especially when Murray is mentioned.

We ideally are looking for a six foot plus striker,who can hold up the ball and link in with our other front men,needs to be good in the air both in attack and defence,have great movement and awareness off the ball,and score from inside and outside the box. Anyone come to mind?

Yes Superman.

Don't worry Alfie, i'm on your wave length!

rusty dave wrote:
Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

Must say I entirely agree - can't understand why so many people start to leave so early. Also amazes me how many people leave their seat around 38/40 mins in order to not queue for half-time refreshments. There is usually a couple of minutes added time at half time.
Would have to laugh if we win the next home game scoring in added time after 45 mins and the 95 min.
When I first saw the Albion (1964) I can't remember anyone doing this.
Think also that some people need to be a bit more patient - new players bedding in and style of play that is good to watch but it's not going to happen over night. If I remember rightly Swansea took a good few season to get out of the Championship and that was through the play-offs.

Bish May Turn wrote:

pjwilk wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Dave in Hastings wrote:

the taffster wrote: kenwynne jones,tyronne barnett,glenn murray,they all fit the bill, everyone has been telling gus a forward was needed for weeks.hallileua.shou ld never have sold murray,he was quality and is proving it at palace.all for the sake of ot paying him his worth.a few grand more,it was a monumental error of managment.

*Groan* Murray has gone. Get over it. He was ok when he was in the mood, but CMS is a far better player in my opinion. And you are overlooking the fact that teams are coming to the Amex, set up not to lose, because they know if they engage the Albion in a proper football match, they are going to get tonked. We are very near to having a great team with real promotion prospects. The best defence in the Championship, and just one piece of the jigsaw away from having a very potent attack. We are all entitled to our opinions, but I do get fed up with the moaning minnies, especially when Murray is mentioned.

We ideally are looking for a six foot plus striker,who can hold up the ball and link in with our other front men,needs to be good in the air both in attack and defence,have great movement and awareness off the ball,and score from inside and outside the box. Anyone come to mind?

Yes Superman.

Don't worry Alfie, i'm on your wave length!

glenn murray kenwnne jones or tyronne barnett.as i said i feel it was a major balls up by gp not negotiating a better deal for our best player..he got 20 goals the season before he left.

jarbstokes wrote:

rusty dave wrote:
Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

Must say I entirely agree - can't understand why so many people start to leave so early. Also amazes me how many people leave their seat around 38/40 mins in order to not queue for half-time refreshments. There is usually a couple of minutes added time at half time.
Would have to laugh if we win the next home game scoring in added time after 45 mins and the 95 min.
When I first saw the Albion (1964) I can't remember anyone doing this.
Think also that some people need to be a bit more patient - new players bedding in and style of play that is good to watch but it's not going to happen over night. If I remember rightly Swansea took a good few season to get out of the Championship and that was through the play-offs.

Fully agree. I did mention this on another thread but go an old couple in same row as me always arrive 20 mins late, leave 5 mins before half time and 20mins before end of second half!! Nothing like wanting to get hm and 'settled in' . On main thread gus has done really well but striker issue leaves me confused . He won't play a different formation at hm giving proper help to cms who i can see leaving without help and won't try our other in club strikers hos and toby alongside as well or for that matter last season vokes. Very odd. But i'm not gus or a manager what do i know .

jarbstokes wrote:

rusty dave wrote:
Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

Must say I entirely agree - can't understand why so many people start to leave so early. Also amazes me how many people leave their seat around 38/40 mins in order to not queue for half-time refreshments. There is usually a couple of minutes added time at half time.
Would have to laugh if we win the next home game scoring in added time after 45 mins and the 95 min.
When I first saw the Albion (1964) I can't remember anyone doing this.
Think also that some people need to be a bit more patient - new players bedding in and style of play that is good to watch but it's not going to happen over night. If I remember rightly Swansea took a good few season to get out of the Championship and that was through the play-offs.

Fully agree. I did mention this on another thread but go an old couple in same row as me always arrive 20 mins late, leave 5 mins before half time and 20mins before end of second half!! Nothing like wanting to get hm and 'settled in' . On main thread gus has done really well but striker issue leaves me confused . He won't play a different formation at hm giving proper help to cms who i can see leaving without help and won't try our other in club strikers hos and toby alongside as well or for that matter last season vokes. Very odd. But i'm not gus or a manager what do i know .

jarbstokes wrote:

rusty dave wrote:
Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

Must say I entirely agree - can't understand why so many people start to leave so early. Also amazes me how many people leave their seat around 38/40 mins in order to not queue for half-time refreshments. There is usually a couple of minutes added time at half time.
Would have to laugh if we win the next home game scoring in added time after 45 mins and the 95 min.
When I first saw the Albion (1964) I can't remember anyone doing this.
Think also that some people need to be a bit more patient - new players bedding in and style of play that is good to watch but it's not going to happen over night. If I remember rightly Swansea took a good few season to get out of the Championship and that was through the play-offs.

Fully agree. I did mention this on another thread but go an old couple in same row as me always arrive 20 mins late, leave 5 mins before half time and 20mins before end of second half!! Nothing like wanting to get hm and 'settled in' . On main thread gus has done really well but striker issue leaves me confused . He won't play a different formation at hm giving proper help to cms who i can see leaving without help and won't try our other in club strikers hos and toby alongside as well or for that matter last season vokes. Very odd. But i'm not gus or a manager what do i know .

DC Hove wrote:
I haven't bothered to read the argus comments board in recent weeks - as the over reacting attention seekers on here ALWAYS lead me to get really annoyed (even when we were sitting pretty at the top of the league!). Unfortunately i stumbled across it again today - and the absolute clueless Glory Hunters are out in force again. Do not get me wrong - i love the fact we are getting 26,000+ at the Amex - and 20,000 new supporters (or old supporters) have joined the journey... AND THIS IS THE POINT.. it is a journey.. we are not the finished article (in terms of stadium - set up - team etc). You have to experience the lows to appreciate the highs. THIS PEOPLE, IS A HIGH... Moan when we are languishing at the bottom of Div 3, sitting in a converted athletics track in the pouring rain. Moan when the latest player we buy for £5k and some tracksuits from a non league team turns out to be a donkey (but thats the best we could attract). Moan when our manager with no charisma or experience, has no idea how to change a losing streak of 10 matches...
DO NOT MOAN with TOP HALF OF CHAMPIONSHIP/SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS/26,000 plus SUPPORTERS/ONE OF THE BEST STADIUMS IN COUNTRY/AN OUTSTANDING COACHING SET UP AND MANAGEMENT TEAM and the fact that this is JUST THE BEGINNING...
If you would like to support a team that has it already in place - then by all means travel to Chelsea or Manchester and watch them. If you can not enjoy the journey - then what is the point??? The clue is in the name "Football Supporter".. you support your team.. Highs and Lows...

What a superb rounding up of our current status and where we have come from and hopefully our successful future journeys.well written D C.

objective view wrote:
Come on DC Hove Bloom is a legend and Gus is on his way to becoming one but being a supporter should not stop us from having views and opinions!

There's opinions, and there's being **** right idiotic. Some comments come from idiots who only put on comments that criticize Gus or the team, no praise for what the club has achieved over the last couple of years.

regarding the leaving early bit, I ALWAYS stay until the final whistle but do get up around 42/3 minutes to get a pint, I have friends who I meet for a half time chat and if I go on 45+ I spend the entire time in a queue. the bar organisers must know after 2 seasons roughly how many pints they will serve at half time based on the attendance figures and start pouring them earlier, I often see only 2 or 3 on the surface behind the bar staff, I've been to many concerts and festivals with 20, 30, even 50 thousand people and not waited this long for a drink.

rusty dave wrote:
Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

Now in my 51st Season watching the Super Seagulls I think I have seen it all, the highs the lows, more lows than highs, so let's be very grateful for what we have, you DO NOT leave until the final whistle goes. On Saturday we had 69% v 31% possession in our favour and we still didn't win, why! because our strikers are not good enough, the defence is 100% better than last season but the forwards are lacking. Brighton Bill Bradford, West Stand Season Ticket Holder.

Can't believe those saying nothing has changed since last season and it's all exactly the same. I don't remember us dominating games at home like we have this season? I remember some games where we were on the back foot and lucky to snatch a draw or a last minute win. All that's missing is a goal or two - and we have had some good chances.
I agree totally with other posts putting it all in perspective. I still have to pinch myself when i see 25,000 albion fans in a spanking new stadium that is up with the best - not to mention the pies and Harveys !! Gus will sort it out. After the Sheff. Weds game everyone was on here saying we didnt need a striker.

A good defence is indeed the basis for most successful teams (although not sure about the strength in depth there with the exception of Dunk), although Arsenal have done without for many seasons. So we are half way there. I did feel listening to the radio commentaries last season it sounded like panic stations at the back and the opposition would score on every attack. Now (with the last few games at least) it has been a surprise when the opposition has scored and most the action has been at the right end. Doesn't help the final score of course though when you have 69% of the posession, double figures corners, but nothing in the net.

With respect to leaving early it would help if Southern Rail could put on longer trains on match days. Fail to see why this obvious logic is not applied?? The other day I had to miss 2 trains on the way to the game as they only had 3 absolutely packed carriages each. Bonkers.

MelsTels wrote:
We've moved on so far in the last couple of years under the Albion set up - Chairman, Manager, Coaching, etc etc - from struggling 1st Division to one of the best Championship sides
So why are there all these knockers about? We are here to support the team, so support them
We all know Rome wasn't built in a day - the Albion are moving positively in the right direction
I suppose these same knockers would like us to go out and buy strikers that turned out to be useless - so they could carry on their moaning
I'm getting fed up with all the gripe - let's have constructive thoughts on here for a change
That's off my chest - now I feel better !!

Sorry to hear you have got the knockers of your chest as someimes that is the best place for them.

Sorry,'off' not 'of' and 'sometimes'.

As GP has totally ignored my suggestion to bring WH straight back into the Leicester squad may I suggest he follows up on my other suggestion to get current Spurs reject Adebayor. I know he may raise an eyebrow but as City still pay most of his wages maybe they can do an Operation Bridge for us... He does after all fit the criteria...
PS: Interesting to read that WB is trying to get a permanent move to the AMEX. I wonder how the wages will be sorted out if that happens before the end of the loan spell.

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
As GP has totally ignored my suggestion to bring WH straight back into the Leicester squad may I suggest he follows up on my other suggestion to get current Spurs reject Adebayor. I know he may raise an eyebrow but as City still pay most of his wages maybe they can do an Operation Bridge for us... He does after all fit the criteria...
PS: Interesting to read that WB is trying to get a permanent move to the AMEX. I wonder how the wages will be sorted out if that happens before the end of the loan spell.

Jonathan, I thought Adebayor had been signed on a permanent contract by Spurs. If that is indeed the case, surely City aren't still paying any of his wages. Otherwise agree he'd be something special at the Amex,but couldn't happen, Could it?

rusty dave wrote:
Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

Totally agree,people who leave early baffle me and beggar belief!..UTA

rusty dave wrote:
Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

To be fair, with the greatest respect, i dont think its any of our business why people leave early. They have their own agenda and lives, with kids and wives at home and who knows what else to get back to. They pay their money and turn up, so who business is it if they want to get off early, Not ours!!

DougRouvie wrote:

rusty dave wrote:
Gus has stated on many occasions that the 12th man at the AMEX has been so important to the team - Now I totally understand that a midweek game transport home may be a issue for many fans but WHY oh WHY on Sat against M,boro did so many fans 5 minutes before full time "SOD OFF" , without realising there was to be an additional 5 minutes added time.Many of you left 7 - 10 minutes before the end of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah we became the additional man "BUT" for M,Boro, can you imagine the lift their players must of got - "Oh Look they are all pis**ng off, this result is in the bag !!!!!!!!. Come on lets get behind the team, because 1 goal from us in the 90th minute I am sure could have lead to another - We will never know eh !!!!. How people rent a DVD and turn it off 10 minutes before the end eh !!!! !???????. - COMMENTS PLEASE.

To be fair, with the greatest respect, i dont think its any of our business why people leave early. They have their own agenda and lives, with kids and wives at home and who knows what else to get back to. They pay their money and turn up, so who business is it if they want to get off early, Not ours!!

I understand what you are saying, but the large volumes that leave the games early does lead me to wonder or doubt if we have a real hard core set of true passionate supporters, I guess only time will tell. I recall a friend quoting to me that a TV commentator during the televised West Ham game last year commented on the large amount of supporters leaving the game with over 8 mins of normal time left. We were pushing for an equaliser at the time - again I just cannot understand why ????????. and as you say its none of my business Oh Well !!!!!!!!!!! very, very disappointing

Re leaving early the guy who sits in front of me left in the 73 minute so adding the 5 mins that was added he missed 22 mins of the game strange fella

dave from bexill wrote:

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
As GP has totally ignored my suggestion to bring WH straight back into the Leicester squad may I suggest he follows up on my other suggestion to get current Spurs reject Adebayor. I know he may raise an eyebrow but as City still pay most of his wages maybe they can do an Operation Bridge for us... He does after all fit the criteria...
PS: Interesting to read that WB is trying to get a permanent move to the AMEX. I wonder how the wages will be sorted out if that happens before the end of the loan spell.

Jonathan, I thought Adebayor had been signed on a permanent contract by Spurs. If that is indeed the case, surely City aren't still paying any of his wages. Otherwise agree he'd be something special at the Amex,but couldn't happen, Could it?

Hi Dave, I can only repeat what I have read (although it originates from the BBC whose credibility is currently dubious...!). It reads as follows:

Adebayor will be among the top earners at White Hart Lane, but City will subsidise the 28-year-old's wage, having paid him £175,000 per week...
But with the player refusing to accept a big pay-cut, City were forced to accept having to continue to pay the player the difference between his earnings with them and his new wage of around £80,000 in order to complete the deal.

Make of it what you will but to me the City bank is still involved one way or another.

Looking at this objectively, it has been our number one target for over a year to sign a goalscorer, but we have failed to do so. I can understand why it seems like a good idea to sign any class player that becomes available ...however, having the two best full-backs in the Championship and a surplus of midfielders was not the priority. It has deflected focus and budget away from the real need.

Now "Freedman" has gone, bring back "Murray".

Jonathan Mouette wrote:

dave from bexill wrote:

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
As GP has totally ignored my suggestion to bring WH straight back into the Leicester squad may I suggest he follows up on my other suggestion to get current Spurs reject Adebayor. I know he may raise an eyebrow but as City still pay most of his wages maybe they can do an Operation Bridge for us... He does after all fit the criteria...
PS: Interesting to read that WB is trying to get a permanent move to the AMEX. I wonder how the wages will be sorted out if that happens before the end of the loan spell.

Jonathan, I thought Adebayor had been signed on a permanent contract by Spurs. If that is indeed the case, surely City aren't still paying any of his wages. Otherwise agree he'd be something special at the Amex,but couldn't happen, Could it?

Hi Dave, I can only repeat what I have read (although it originates from the BBC whose credibility is currently dubious...!). It reads as follows:

Adebayor will be among the top earners at White Hart Lane, but City will subsidise the 28-year-old's wage, having paid him £175,000 per week...
But with the player refusing to accept a big pay-cut, City were forced to accept having to continue to pay the player the difference between his earnings with them and his new wage of around £80,000 in order to complete the deal.

Make of it what you will but to me the City bank is still involved one way or another.

Ok. Interesting one. Thanks for the info Jonathan.