Poyet bored with Albion (From The Argus)
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Poyet bored with Albion
9:30am Wednesday 24th October 2012 in Albion
Tomasz Kuszczak has angry words with Ashley Barnes
ALBION boss Gus Poyet is getting "really bored" of goal-shy Albion.
The Uruguayan could not hide his frustration after a second half penalty miss by Ashley Barnes condemned the Seagulls to a 1-0 defeat at Championship leaders Leicester last night and a fourth blank sheet out of five.
Poyet said: "I'm sitting there and it's like you know what is going to happen. I feel sorry for the fans, because they make the effort to travel on a Tuesday night and I suppose they feel the same.
"If we cannot even score from a penalty how are we going to score a goal? I am getting really bored of managing a team like this one." Poyet has also urged Tomasz Kuszczak to confine his anger to the game following a post-match spat with Barnes.
The Polish keeper exchanged heated words with the striker inside the Leicester half after the 54th minute spot-kick had been saved by Kasper Schmeichel.
They had to be kept apart by team-mates as the Seagulls' angst at a run of five games without a win and only one goal boiled over. Poyet told The Argus: "I respect Tomasz and every single player. When somebody gets upset before or after the game, I say get upset during the game.
"Before or after it changes nothing. We are all different and he is a strong character.
"He doesn't like to lose and it's normal I suppose. I would be very upset if I was playing and we had the game we had against the leaders and you get nothing."
Comments(89)
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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9:56am Wed 24 Oct 12
markymark03
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10:13am Wed 24 Oct 12
I don't get a lot of things that Poyet is doing. Barnes still out on the baffles me. Dobbie not playing behind CMS where he actually is used to playing is another strange one.
I love Brighton and I still hold the faith as far as Poyet is concerened, but he needs a shake up!
Neville
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10:20am Wed 24 Oct 12
Gus has done a great job but I just feel there are too many basic things that could be fixed easily,its very frustrating to have possession for most of the game, albeit in the last two thirds of the pitch where we can't do any damage,as has been proven.
I metioned it before but Ipswich who are financially restrained have managed to acquire Nigel Reo-Coker on loan for 3 mths,this guy has had 7 premiership seasons behind him,do we not look at such possibilities?
Also see a bit of player dissent between Barnes and Kuszsak, hope this is not the thin end of the wedge.
Really want the albion to do well ut perhap the players are getting frustrated themselves by the style of play now,especially without reward.
sloughseagull
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10:23am Wed 24 Oct 12
Bucket feet Duffy
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10:26am Wed 24 Oct 12
pjwilk
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10:35am Wed 24 Oct 12
SMF20
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10:37am Wed 24 Oct 12
When we won League 1 it was on the strength of a good 4-4-2 formation with a decent hold up striker not only scoring a hatful of goals but helping others score a hatful of goals and bringing others in to the game by winning 90% of headers and holding the ball up superbly. Obviously we let the guy in question move on and im sure GP now realises this. He is gone though and so its time to find his replacement. Its time to get back to basics and let the players natural ability be seen, no more playing a back 9 nd then even have a forward half defending aswell. Its time to get back to the 4-4-2 that made us so successfull, lets get our width back and lets get back to attacking with strength and in numbers and most importantly with width both sides of the field. We have the strongest squad I as a fan have ever seen at the club and yet we are not fully utilisng each plaers strengths. With just one addition up front we can get back to what we do so well, we need not ditch the footballing game we play and its not time to go back to hoof ball. Im just suggesting that GP thinks back 2 seasons and revioews what m,ade us the most attractive free scoring team in the division. We can be that team again.
Its very frustrating for us all having to watch such talent being beaten but i know and feel 100% that with just a little tweak here and there we will again be the force in the division we are in. Uta
Tommy11
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10:39am Wed 24 Oct 12
seagullsays
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10:41am Wed 24 Oct 12
This is your team Gus, you signed almost every player who started last night, and those who were on the bench. Take some ownership please. Maybe some underperformance is down to tactics, which is your department. Don't criticise TK for arguing publicly with AB, and then come out publicly with comments like this. Unprofessional management in my view.
the taffster
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11:13am Wed 24 Oct 12
Yogi
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11:21am Wed 24 Oct 12
the taffster wrote:Give it a rest with Murray for goodness sake, he could have stayed but went for the money so let it rest at that!
gus has never really replaced murray.to rub it in,he is scoring goals for fun at cp.poor management/decision making will cost him his job.you wont find a good striker in the loan market gus.give barker a try. if hes got prescence and can head a ball thats better than what weve got.if you cant find a replacement.ive said before some players ie murray are worth paying a lttle bit more in wages to keep.
Connor Wickham would be an ideal striker to get on loan so come on the management team let's go out and get him.
taylord1977
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11:24am Wed 24 Oct 12
WisdomSpeaks
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11:31am Wed 24 Oct 12
It sounds like he is a DVD manager. Does he go out at night to games and personally check on players? Or does he simply rely on agents and their DVD's?
Was he personally checking on Will Hoskins on Monday at Culver Road? I also question the quality of our first team coach. CO great for a laugh and a joker but that kind of personality is best for a kit man! We need a top class coach who can improve players and make them better.
Name me one young player coming through who Gus has really given a chance to apart from Dunk. Even he seems to be out of favour despite being the better footballer than Adam El Abd.
JFK out on loan, Barker, Toby A, Oatway Jnr, Dickenson never get even a look in. It takes real courage to risk in life and without risking you achieve nothing.
I believe there's too much fear. As soon as we hit top spot the same old pattern reappears. If Gus is bored with all the players who he bought then maybe they're bored with him too!!!
Over to you TB!
VegasSeagull
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11:37am Wed 24 Oct 12
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pjwilk
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11:40am Wed 24 Oct 12
SMF20 wrote:Agree wholeheartedly with this post.
I think the answer really is very simple. Its time to go back to basics. We have some of the best players in the division playing for us and i personally wouldnt swap the likes of Bridge, Bruno, Kuz, CMS or Bridcutt for any other player who plays in their position.
When we won League 1 it was on the strength of a good 4-4-2 formation with a decent hold up striker not only scoring a hatful of goals but helping others score a hatful of goals and bringing others in to the game by winning 90% of headers and holding the ball up superbly. Obviously we let the guy in question move on and im sure GP now realises this. He is gone though and so its time to find his replacement. Its time to get back to basics and let the players natural ability be seen, no more playing a back 9 nd then even have a forward half defending aswell. Its time to get back to the 4-4-2 that made us so successfull, lets get our width back and lets get back to attacking with strength and in numbers and most importantly with width both sides of the field. We have the strongest squad I as a fan have ever seen at the club and yet we are not fully utilisng each plaers strengths. With just one addition up front we can get back to what we do so well, we need not ditch the footballing game we play and its not time to go back to hoof ball. Im just suggesting that GP thinks back 2 seasons and revioews what m,ade us the most attractive free scoring team in the division. We can be that team again.
Its very frustrating for us all having to watch such talent being beaten but i know and feel 100% that with just a little tweak here and there we will again be the force in the division we are in. Uta
VegasSeagull
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11:41am Wed 24 Oct 12
VegasSeagull wrote:early morning typo.
Did Poyet put the 'for sale,' sign up on just his services with this article? ,
Did Poyet just put up the, 'for sale,' sing on his services with this article?
pjwilk
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11:42am Wed 24 Oct 12
SMF20
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11:43am Wed 24 Oct 12
Yogi wrote:Yogi,
the taffster wrote: gus has never really replaced murray.to rub it in,he is scoring goals for fun at cp.poor management/decision making will cost him his job.you wont find a good striker in the loan market gus.give barker a try. if hes got prescence and can head a ball thats better than what weve got.if you cant find a replacement.ive said before some players ie murray are worth paying a lttle bit more in wages to keep.Give it a rest with Murray for goodness sake, he could have stayed but went for the money so let it rest at that! Connor Wickham would be an ideal striker to get on loan so come on the management team let's go out and get him.
I agree that we finally need to put Murray to bed as he is gone now sadly but please understand that he did not leave for money reasons. The difference in the offers on the table was less than a few hundred a week.
Yesterday there was a thread that the argus put on stating how CMS was glad that he hadnt joined Leicester and that part of the reason was because he felt unwanted and undervalued. Well this works both ways sadly and Murray left for this reason.
Saul G P Tong
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11:49am Wed 24 Oct 12
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) wrote:What's ambiguous about the headline? Poyet has gone public with his feelings.
So when do we suppose Gus is going to call it a day? Isn't that what the deliberately ambiguous Argus headline and opening line is trying to suggest?
LACHANCE
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12:03pm Wed 24 Oct 12
shining star
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12:21pm Wed 24 Oct 12
fairweathersupporter
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12:22pm Wed 24 Oct 12
This is a cut and paste , over sensationalist, loaded article designed to whip up a tsunami in a tea cup. PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE on the club's website for what Gus said (in context). It made me feel a little bit better and assured that he is not going anywhere or completely devoid of sense or reason. I would cut and paste it here but only Andy's allowed to do that in the order that's most likely to sell, sell, sell.... ( I do REALLY appreciate the paper being behind getting the ground etc ect BUT come on, you must be able to foster a better relationship with the Albion than throwing press conference misquotes around. You might even get us some answers on the questions thrown around here for years on end: Murray etc).
There is something behind the striker issue which we have not been told. Is it a financial issue (we have a rather large, lovely piece of real estate to pay for, wage demands are generally stupid, a lot of investment going on in our FUTURE)? Is it the fact that Gus thought we could play it another way and pass them to death? Is it the players not being up to the job? The debates are ongoing and judging by this site, endless. Perhaps some questions from our intrepid reporter to the club chairman or manager would provide answers, rather than misquotes and slants on the ravings of a passionate Uruguayan who is not perfect but is better than anything we've had for some time.
We all have our frustrations on the perceived tactical void which seems to have dampened our season. But don't get swept away by deception and gossip.Unless you are of course a Palace supporter or one of the resident WUMS… Then fill yer boots for your time is now.
WisdomSpeaks
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12:24pm Wed 24 Oct 12
LACHANCE wrote:Well spoken..I think Gus has a dose of Kevin Keeganitis!!!! And that ALWAYS ends up the same way!
Gus has only himself to blame this is his team.He brought 95% of these players to the club.lf he feels like the Argus is saying maybe he should call it a day.We need a motivator not a winger to manage our club.So get real Gus and stop throwing your rattle out of you pram.
WisdomSpeaks
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12:38pm Wed 24 Oct 12
fairweathersupporter wrote:Forget about what the Club say on their website if you listen right at the end of Gus' interview the words printed by The Argus are EXACTLY what he said. Don't let's blame the Argus - they are not responsible for what Gus says. So if Gus now thinks he spoke out of turn - as is a pattern with him - let him be a man and come out and apologise. Methinks he does speak too much!!!!
Friends(?), Countrymen, Fellow Seagulls… Lend me your ears (or eyes).
This is a cut and paste , over sensationalist, loaded article designed to whip up a tsunami in a tea cup. PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE on the club's website for what Gus said (in context). It made me feel a little bit better and assured that he is not going anywhere or completely devoid of sense or reason. I would cut and paste it here but only Andy's allowed to do that in the order that's most likely to sell, sell, sell.... ( I do REALLY appreciate the paper being behind getting the ground etc ect BUT come on, you must be able to foster a better relationship with the Albion than throwing press conference misquotes around. You might even get us some answers on the questions thrown around here for years on end: Murray etc).
There is something behind the striker issue which we have not been told. Is it a financial issue (we have a rather large, lovely piece of real estate to pay for, wage demands are generally stupid, a lot of investment going on in our FUTURE)? Is it the fact that Gus thought we could play it another way and pass them to death? Is it the players not being up to the job? The debates are ongoing and judging by this site, endless. Perhaps some questions from our intrepid reporter to the club chairman or manager would provide answers, rather than misquotes and slants on the ravings of a passionate Uruguayan who is not perfect but is better than anything we've had for some time.
We all have our frustrations on the perceived tactical void which seems to have dampened our season. But don't get swept away by deception and gossip.Unless you are of course a Palace supporter or one of the resident WUMS… Then fill yer boots for your time is now.
fairweathersupporter
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1:04pm Wed 24 Oct 12
WisdomSpeaks wrote:If you piece together any of Gus's interviews you can make what you like. As i said it's CONTEXT. if you think that the club's website is a sort of 'Pravda' propaganda machine, then yes of course it's going to shine the best light on all things Albion. If you think the Argus is being ANYTHING OTHER than sensationalist and selective in their article, then you are sadly mistaken. It is clear what 'my mate Gus' meant and that he is not 'Bored of the Albion'. What he wants to happen is not happening and he is frustrated. I am frustrated too. We all have our views on how to 'fix' this, from new striker, old striker, junior striker, two strikers, 4-4-2, etc, perhaps even new manager if you so wish. My suggestion is that this sort of hyperbole is clearly misleading and designed to provoke those without the ability to see past it.
fairweathersupporter wrote: Friends(?), Countrymen, Fellow Seagulls… Lend me your ears (or eyes). This is a cut and paste , over sensationalist, loaded article designed to whip up a tsunami in a tea cup. PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE on the club's website for what Gus said (in context). It made me feel a little bit better and assured that he is not going anywhere or completely devoid of sense or reason. I would cut and paste it here but only Andy's allowed to do that in the order that's most likely to sell, sell, sell.... ( I do REALLY appreciate the paper being behind getting the ground etc ect BUT come on, you must be able to foster a better relationship with the Albion than throwing press conference misquotes around. You might even get us some answers on the questions thrown around here for years on end: Murray etc). There is something behind the striker issue which we have not been told. Is it a financial issue (we have a rather large, lovely piece of real estate to pay for, wage demands are generally stupid, a lot of investment going on in our FUTURE)? Is it the fact that Gus thought we could play it another way and pass them to death? Is it the players not being up to the job? The debates are ongoing and judging by this site, endless. Perhaps some questions from our intrepid reporter to the club chairman or manager would provide answers, rather than misquotes and slants on the ravings of a passionate Uruguayan who is not perfect but is better than anything we've had for some time. We all have our frustrations on the perceived tactical void which seems to have dampened our season. But don't get swept away by deception and gossip.Unless you are of course a Palace supporter or one of the resident WUMS… Then fill yer boots for your time is now.Forget about what the Club say on their website if you listen right at the end of Gus' interview the words printed by The Argus are EXACTLY what he said. Don't let's blame the Argus - they are not responsible for what Gus says. So if Gus now thinks he spoke out of turn - as is a pattern with him - let him be a man and come out and apologise. Methinks he does speak too much!!!!
Demanding apolgies for such is a little petty, i would most humbly suggest, especially as he apologises in the very same article for the performance (and by default (?); his part in it).
Dave in Hastings
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1:36pm Wed 24 Oct 12
fairweathersupporter wrote:Totally agree fairweather. At last some common sense. People need to get real.
WisdomSpeaks wrote:If you piece together any of Gus's interviews you can make what you like. As i said it's CONTEXT. if you think that the club's website is a sort of 'Pravda' propaganda machine, then yes of course it's going to shine the best light on all things Albion. If you think the Argus is being ANYTHING OTHER than sensationalist and selective in their article, then you are sadly mistaken. It is clear what 'my mate Gus' meant and that he is not 'Bored of the Albion'. What he wants to happen is not happening and he is frustrated. I am frustrated too. We all have our views on how to 'fix' this, from new striker, old striker, junior striker, two strikers, 4-4-2, etc, perhaps even new manager if you so wish. My suggestion is that this sort of hyperbole is clearly misleading and designed to provoke those without the ability to see past it.
fairweathersupporter wrote: Friends(?), Countrymen, Fellow Seagulls… Lend me your ears (or eyes). This is a cut and paste , over sensationalist, loaded article designed to whip up a tsunami in a tea cup. PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE on the club's website for what Gus said (in context). It made me feel a little bit better and assured that he is not going anywhere or completely devoid of sense or reason. I would cut and paste it here but only Andy's allowed to do that in the order that's most likely to sell, sell, sell.... ( I do REALLY appreciate the paper being behind getting the ground etc ect BUT come on, you must be able to foster a better relationship with the Albion than throwing press conference misquotes around. You might even get us some answers on the questions thrown around here for years on end: Murray etc). There is something behind the striker issue which we have not been told. Is it a financial issue (we have a rather large, lovely piece of real estate to pay for, wage demands are generally stupid, a lot of investment going on in our FUTURE)? Is it the fact that Gus thought we could play it another way and pass them to death? Is it the players not being up to the job? The debates are ongoing and judging by this site, endless. Perhaps some questions from our intrepid reporter to the club chairman or manager would provide answers, rather than misquotes and slants on the ravings of a passionate Uruguayan who is not perfect but is better than anything we've had for some time. We all have our frustrations on the perceived tactical void which seems to have dampened our season. But don't get swept away by deception and gossip.Unless you are of course a Palace supporter or one of the resident WUMS… Then fill yer boots for your time is now.Forget about what the Club say on their website if you listen right at the end of Gus' interview the words printed by The Argus are EXACTLY what he said. Don't let's blame the Argus - they are not responsible for what Gus says. So if Gus now thinks he spoke out of turn - as is a pattern with him - let him be a man and come out and apologise. Methinks he does speak too much!!!!
Demanding apolgies for such is a little petty, i would most humbly suggest, especially as he apologises in the very same article for the performance (and by default (?); his part in it).
Albion were unlucky not to come away from the league leaders with a point.
I still say we will be in the promotion mix at the end of the season.
the taffster
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1:47pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Poplar Seagull
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1:56pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Blackpool 1
Brighton 0
4everaseagull
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2:02pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Call me sad but just looked at an interesting stat. We have played 12 games so far and have 18 points. At the same stage last season we had played 12 and got 19 points!. Gus has commented on more than one occassion that he feels we are stronger this year. Of the eight players bought in this summer how many have improved us? Kuszczak, Bruno & Bridge without a doubt. This is proven by having the best defensive record so far. Orlandi looks decent. Crofts, Hammond, Lopez and Dobbie nothing so far. Has anyone else noticed that when we have a corner the goal at most risk is our own. I do hope GP sorts this out or I fear for our season and his position. I am sure he can put it right but he may have to stop being so stubborn. Oh and get the Grant Holt type of centre forward in that we need. John Carew will do for starters.
john newman
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2:30pm Wed 24 Oct 12
StevieD
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2:46pm Wed 24 Oct 12
hubby
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3:02pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Brighton fans are real whingers with short memories.
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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3:04pm Wed 24 Oct 12
We have changed beyond recognition since moving from Withdean but so too has our expectation; we are playing a style of football which, in the main, is great to watch and has the pundits, and Gus's contemporaries, putting us there or thereabouts at the end of the season. We have few, if any, significant weaknesses in the defensive portion of our line-up and I've yet to feel severely let down by our midfield, at least not on a regular basis. However, it's past the point of debate that our inability to find the net is causal to our predicament and would be resolved by the signing of a recognised goal scorer (somebody prolific at this level - or above!) This might also have a positive impact on our exiting front line, CMS especially, for whom we can’t hang around waiting to bulge the ol’ onion bag again (was Craig’s early season run of form a glitch or is his confidence so fragile that he is unlikely to become prolific?)
I consider it highly unlikely we will get promotion this year and, quite frankly, I would prefer we didn’t whilst we’re in this current state of inconsistency. I remember only too well our spell in the old First Division and, unless we can realistically compete at Premiership level, I’m happy enough to consolidate in the Championship and build a squad fit for purpose. I do, however, think we will finish in, or close to, the top six which, as Gus declared at the beginning of the season, would be a marked improvement on last year (bearing in mind, in my view, the division is more fiercely contested than last season).
So, the status quo being two steps forward, one step back, there is no place for abject pessimism but neither is there room for naive optimism. We’re in good hands, in good shape and in good company so let’s enjoy this highly competitive league, keep faith with Gus and the lads and ponder a while how things might have been had Sir Dick and his merry band not created this fabulous future we can all now look forward to.
rusty dave
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3:26pm Wed 24 Oct 12
dave from bexill
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3:27pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Now Gus, find a striker who can benefit from our more creative players and complement CMS.
By the way, anyone who interprets Gus's boredom as being he wants away is just dim.
john newman
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3:32pm Wed 24 Oct 12
dave from bexill
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3:40pm Wed 24 Oct 12
mikeygit
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4:00pm Wed 24 Oct 12
t from last night the last few games have seen many attempts at goal --and on target--but at present they do not seem to be able to hit a barn door. Maybe now it is a lot to do with confidence---but I think Gus's comments are a spur to the team to do something about it!! Yes we do need a good goalscorer up front---but easier said than done to get the right one. Like anyone in business Gus makes his mistakes and often his 'mouth' does let him down---like saying Dobbie will be a most exciting player---recipe for disaster---the player has yet to prove himself here.
I remember not so long ago many on here were saying 'at last we have a good penalty taker' when Barnes took over as penalty taker and was scoring---again confidence is letting him down.
I am sure it will come good, but as I said the other day, one or two cracks are appearing which need to be smoothed over asap. UP the Albion.
Cabin fever
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4:15pm Wed 24 Oct 12
pjwilk wrote:I think you'll find what he actually said, according to the BBC is: "It's difficult to analyse. I'm getting bored and fed up of repeating the same words. I feel sorry for the fans."
Gus is getting bored with the Albion and we are getting bored with Gus.
So a nice bit of spin/misquote from The Argus then...
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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4:24pm Wed 24 Oct 12
IRISHGULL
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4:24pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Cabin fever
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4:28pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Cabin fever wrote:Apologies, I've just seen a transcript of the interview, and it seems that ISN'T what he said.
pjwilk wrote:I think you'll find what he actually said, according to the BBC is: "It's difficult to analyse. I'm getting bored and fed up of repeating the same words. I feel sorry for the fans."
Gus is getting bored with the Albion and we are getting bored with Gus.
So a nice bit of spin/misquote from The Argus then...
Interesting times ahead. GP to Palace?
barnieb
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4:30pm Wed 24 Oct 12
lie Austin has scored more goals on his own this season than our entire squad.Poyet needs to use his contacts to bring in a loan signing from the Premier league until the transfer window,then mega splash the cash on a decent and proven striker in January.I too am bored,and frankly running out of patience,when you watch them,you can just see that the opposition have worked us out.They know that we will pass the ball out of defence,going backwards and sideways,with never a telling pass or throughball,they know they just need to bide their time,score 1 goal and we will huff and puff but never break them down.I just cannot see where the goals are going to come from.
Hovite
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4:32pm Wed 24 Oct 12
dave from bexill wrote:Yep, all your hard good honest work in writing a rational comment was ruined in your last sentence. You blew it ;o)
My third last para above, doesn't quite read right and sorry for that, but I hope you know what I mean.
Jonathan Mouette
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4:53pm Wed 24 Oct 12
tug509
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4:57pm Wed 24 Oct 12
dave from bexill
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5:09pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Hovite wrote:Thanks Hovite. I feel much better now.
dave from bexill wrote:Yep, all your hard good honest work in writing a rational comment was ruined in your last sentence. You blew it ;o)
My third last para above, doesn't quite read right and sorry for that, but I hope you know what I mean.
Willie, Willie Irvine
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5:18pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Poplar Seagull wrote:Being a glass-half-full kind of guy, I think we could nick it against Blackpool by the reverse scoreline.
I noticed on the Seagulls website that Buckley says that Championship games are hard to predict.....well I will give it a good go to predict a score for this weekend: Blackpool 1 Brighton 0
And if after that prediction you want some of what I'm on, it's Boots Max Strength Cold & Flu Relief...
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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5:36pm Wed 24 Oct 12
So, we can **** all we like but the reality is we've come an awful long way in a really short space of time and our potential, together with the promise of greater things to come, is all part of the excitement I feel when I take my seat in the West Stand.
I enjoy the comments, the banter and the witty exchanges which take place in these posts but, the one thing we all have in common, is our love of the Albion and the fact that we all CARE.
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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5:37pm Wed 24 Oct 12
saraman
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5:43pm Wed 24 Oct 12
thebigun
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6:16pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Well join the club Ive been bored for the last 5 games,There your players ,you tell them how to play,its your responsability,Your silly comments are driving me mad,DO SOMETHING about it,you haven,t spent much on players so far this season,get your finger out and take action NOW,Get JKF back give Barker a go.]why is TA not getting a run out,surely these players can do no worse than the present,YOU need to do it now not in months time,I could go on but I won,t because I,m begining to bore myself
saraman
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6:26pm Wed 24 Oct 12
thebigun wrote:I bet you feel better now Bigun?
Gus Poyet is getting bored Well join the club Ive been bored for the last 5 games,There your players ,you tell them how to play,its your responsability,Your silly comments are driving me mad,DO SOMETHING about it,you haven,t spent much on players so far this season,get your finger out and take action NOW,Get JKF back give Barker a go.]why is TA not getting a run out,surely these players can do no worse than the present,YOU need to do it now not in months time,I could go on but I won,t because I,m begining to bore myself
thebigun
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6:43pm Wed 24 Oct 12
bruce beckett
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6:48pm Wed 24 Oct 12
5:43pm Wed 24 Oct 12
I bet if Gus had said he was frustrated ( like the rest of us) instead of bored; it would have gone down much better with all of us on here. Just a bad use of the English language again ( not his fault). He just needs to think a bit more before he comments or not comment at all. I for one would be very sad to lose him. And replace him with who?
Excellent point, Saraman. If he'd just said "me siento frustrado" there wouldn't be all this fuss today.
OzzieGull
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6:59pm Wed 24 Oct 12
tug509
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7:23pm Wed 24 Oct 12
OzzieGull wrote:Well said Ozzie,Gus is the best man for the job and a bad run,does`nt change that!.5 straight wins,and all is well,but a hiccup and now the world ends.I agree that our formation needs a good look at,but i also believe if we give Gus the time and respect he deserves,we will get there.After all who the heck do you think got us this far!!!..UTA
How fortunate we are to have not only Gus but 100 other managers who all know exactly how and with who we should be playing - no doubt every other Championship club would love to have all those assets. Come on - "in Gus we trust" one minute, then after a few below par performances it's "Gus out". How fickle. If we win the next five will all the doubters turn supporters again? If supporters expect consistency from the team perhaps they should show some themselves. We are 9th not 19th and the goals WILL come
objective view
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7:38pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Albion In Staffs
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7:41pm Wed 24 Oct 12
If you read beyond the headline there is nothing more than a post-match comment that reflects immediate frustration. He's doing nothing more than reflecting the frustration we all feel, but are we all, as fans, going to stop caring? Of course not. Calm down dears. It's frustrating, painful, annoying, etc etc.. But it will come right. When we scored 3 at Burnley, we were all ecstatic. Is the same team going through a barren patch. Calm down........
championshipgull
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7:45pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Cabin fever wrote:I like a bit of a cut and paste.
Cabin fever wrote:Apologies, I've just seen a transcript of the interview, and it seems that ISN'T what he said.
pjwilk wrote:I think you'll find what he actually said, according to the BBC is: "It's difficult to analyse. I'm getting bored and fed up of repeating the same words. I feel sorry for the fans."
Gus is getting bored with the Albion and we are getting bored with Gus.
So a nice bit of spin/misquote from The Argus then...
Interesting times ahead. GP to Palace?
The result means that the Seagulls have managed just one goal in the last five matches, and the Albion boss told seagulls.co.uk, “It’s getting repetitive and boring. Every week we are saying the same.
"I feel sorry for the fans because they are paying money and traveling on a Tuesday night, putting in lots of effort but we are not performing.
"It is it getting boring for me saying the same thing, so it must be getting boring for them so we have to think about it and see what we can do to change things. "
Tony the tiger eastbourne
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8:12pm Wed 24 Oct 12
sussexram40
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8:19pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Albion In Staffs
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8:21pm Wed 24 Oct 12
sussexram40 wrote:You muppet
Not good at all. Mid table mediocrity. Seems GP can't motivate the team anymore, How long before the board decides change is needed. If we are going to dump GP we need to do it befoe end of year. No point waiting till its too late to rescue a season that is fast going down the toilet.
cullipmyhero
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8:24pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Latin temperament is one thing, being a brat is another.
Barnes seems to be a weak link, and I value TK far more as a player as he has played at the highest level and knows what it takes to be a 'winner'. It's apparent that TK came here to push on, not just play out his career at a second tier club. It's clear we are going to go nowhere with the likes of Barnes in the team, so its bound to anger him.
I am sure we will get over silly spats and rescue this run of bad form.
Hopefully at Bloomfield Road!
thebigun
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8:29pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Tony the tiger eastbourne wrote:when were doing well we wouldn,t need to post all these negative comments but your the one claiming its a crisis
I get **** off just looking at all the whingers on this story, when there's a crises you'll out posting Gus this, Gus that. I don't see many of you.when the clubs doing well
tonytowner1
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10:05pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Yep - I agree many of us are getting bored of the bit when it gets to within 25 metres of the opponents goal Gus
This is the pitch: we play great quality football - proper football, we have a fabulous stadium - one of the best in Britain, we have the sea, more sun that most areas, culture, we are a club going places, we'll play you if you're any good - week in / week out - if you score goals and don't get injured every few minutes and have a decent attitude, the fans will support you heavily - in a full or close to full stadium - we have the South Downs, a better climate than most of Britain, an ability to progress players, great culture, theatres, shopping(?) - just 50 miles from London - we can't pay the most though - but not every footballer plays solely for cash - that's presumably how come Wayne is keen to stay with us - it's not a difficult pitch compared to Burnley, Huddersfield, Ipswich - surely - is it Gus? I assume that's what's used to get the Spanish across - but they want a crack at The Premiership before they retire - the best league in the World - wouldn't you? They won't stay if that starts to look very unlikely - so let's get on with that sales pitch, show the passion which Gus clearly has, bring it along swiftly and make it happen - no time to spare really - most fans saw what Vaz Te did in 17 mins as a sub for Barnsley in 2011 at the Amex and West Ham snapped him up for £500K from memory - he's tall and powerful - there's several more around - simply MIH - Make It Happen - not just you Gus, but supported by your team. The rest isn't perfect but it's pretty **** good - wait too long and we'll find that Gordon, Adam, Wayne or Bruno or Tomas are injured and then we shan't be quite so good at the back and it'll be too late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bucket feet Duffy
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10:10pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Chrissie S
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11:34pm Wed 24 Oct 12
tug509
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11:56pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:Hello Bucket,you have obviously out drunk me tonight!!.I might occasionally see the odd pink elephant,and iv`e got this thing with Charlize,but why would we want our team to look like a tube of toothpaste?..UTA
Can we try changing our strip to red and white stripes?
WisdomSpeaks
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12:08am Thu 25 Oct 12
Cabin fever wrote:Why is it that some are afraid to look at facts? What Gus said was - quote "To be honest I’m getting bored managing a team like this one – really bored - so lets see what happens" - unquote.
Cabin fever wrote:Apologies, I've just seen a transcript of the interview, and it seems that ISN'T what he said.
pjwilk wrote:I think you'll find what he actually said, according to the BBC is: "It's difficult to analyse. I'm getting bored and fed up of repeating the same words. I feel sorry for the fans."
Gus is getting bored with the Albion and we are getting bored with Gus.
So a nice bit of spin/misquote from The Argus then...
Interesting times ahead. GP to Palace?
Just watch your Seagulls player interview to the end and you'll hear it clearly.
So to be fair to Andy Naylor I do think he has reported it correctly. I have supported Albion, and the Argus for 60 years so I'm aware of the ability of all newspapers to create 'mischief' on occasions.
I'm also aware that good reporters keep their ear very close to the grindstone and often they are the first to spot any kind of discord. Those level headed among us appreciate all that has been achieved by all concerned - however we also cannot blindfold ourselves to what seems to be a habit of Gus' which has been to continually remind everyone that he's not committed to the club as he would always consider an offer from a 'big' club.
Now I agree that any ambitious young manager is wanting to further his career. However I would think that someone who had only spent 5 months
as an assistant player manager with a 4th tier club, Swindon, then a year as assistant at Leeds followed by a year as assistant at Spurs, where he was sacked together with Ramos, might take the attitude of gratitude at being offered his first managerial post and make a serious commitment of determination that he will reach The Premier League with us. Real commitment is very powerful and I haven't seen evidence of that in his words or actions. Does anyone know if Gus lives in the Sussex area? I don't know but the Argus has mentioned a couple of times about the coach dropping him off/picking him up somewhere near London.
There is also this belief that as soon as things go a bit awry the answer is 'get another player'. That will not wear too long. How about getting a top notch coach to improve players - that could be a start.
I'm as keen as anyone for us to keep growing as a club and I also believe that we need to wake up and smell the roses sometimes and not be fobbed off with smoke and mirrors.
I also think that the Cusack remonstrating with Barnes in the full view of fans and media is not great for morale. I know a lot of emotions are running but it doesn't take long for that kind of stuff to spread through a dressing room lacking in confidence.
These observations are not anything to do with the mini slump - they have been my concern all along as what we need is really solid commitment to create stability to go along with our fantastic infrastructure. I hope we see this soon.
Claude Back
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12:12am Thu 25 Oct 12
WisdomSpeaks
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12:38am Thu 25 Oct 12
Claude Back wrote:Not heard that one but I'm abroad right now. His stats show less than a goal every 4 games. Dobbie's is 1 every 2.77 games!!!! Who knows what it all means eh?
I heard that we could be getting Cameron Jerome from Stoke on loan. Anyone else heard that, please? I know other clubs are after him as Kenwyne Jones will not be allowed to leave.
championshipgull
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4:51am Thu 25 Oct 12
WisdomSpeaks wrote:When Gus says "To be honest I’m getting bored managing a team like this one – really bored - so lets see what happens" - unquote. He is referring to the way we are playing. NOT I’m getting bored of Albion as a club, as some people seem to interpret it. IMO
Cabin fever wrote:Why is it that some are afraid to look at facts? What Gus said was - quote "To be honest I’m getting bored managing a team like this one – really bored - so lets see what happens" - unquote.
Cabin fever wrote:Apologies, I've just seen a transcript of the interview, and it seems that ISN'T what he said.
pjwilk wrote:I think you'll find what he actually said, according to the BBC is: "It's difficult to analyse. I'm getting bored and fed up of repeating the same words. I feel sorry for the fans."
Gus is getting bored with the Albion and we are getting bored with Gus.
So a nice bit of spin/misquote from The Argus then...
Interesting times ahead. GP to Palace?
Just watch your Seagulls player interview to the end and you'll hear it clearly.
So to be fair to Andy Naylor I do think he has reported it correctly. I have supported Albion, and the Argus for 60 years so I'm aware of the ability of all newspapers to create 'mischief' on occasions.
I'm also aware that good reporters keep their ear very close to the grindstone and often they are the first to spot any kind of discord. Those level headed among us appreciate all that has been achieved by all concerned - however we also cannot blindfold ourselves to what seems to be a habit of Gus' which has been to continually remind everyone that he's not committed to the club as he would always consider an offer from a 'big' club.
Now I agree that any ambitious young manager is wanting to further his career. However I would think that someone who had only spent 5 months
as an assistant player manager with a 4th tier club, Swindon, then a year as assistant at Leeds followed by a year as assistant at Spurs, where he was sacked together with Ramos, might take the attitude of gratitude at being offered his first managerial post and make a serious commitment of determination that he will reach The Premier League with us. Real commitment is very powerful and I haven't seen evidence of that in his words or actions. Does anyone know if Gus lives in the Sussex area? I don't know but the Argus has mentioned a couple of times about the coach dropping him off/picking him up somewhere near London.
There is also this belief that as soon as things go a bit awry the answer is 'get another player'. That will not wear too long. How about getting a top notch coach to improve players - that could be a start.
I'm as keen as anyone for us to keep growing as a club and I also believe that we need to wake up and smell the roses sometimes and not be fobbed off with smoke and mirrors.
I also think that the Cusack remonstrating with Barnes in the full view of fans and media is not great for morale. I know a lot of emotions are running but it doesn't take long for that kind of stuff to spread through a dressing room lacking in confidence.
These observations are not anything to do with the mini slump - they have been my concern all along as what we need is really solid commitment to create stability to go along with our fantastic infrastructure. I hope we see this soon.
The full recording of the interview is now also on the BBC site.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
958174
And in answer to your Question .I think Gus is still living in Orpington.
championshipgull
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4:54am Thu 25 Oct 12
WisdomSpeaks wrote:When Gus says "To be honest I’m getting bored managing a team like this one – really bored - so lets see what happens" - unquote. He is referring to the way we are playing. NOT I’m getting bored of Albion as a club, as some people seem to interpret it. IMO
Cabin fever wrote:Why is it that some are afraid to look at facts? What Gus said was - quote "To be honest I’m getting bored managing a team like this one – really bored - so lets see what happens" - unquote.
Cabin fever wrote:Apologies, I've just seen a transcript of the interview, and it seems that ISN'T what he said.
pjwilk wrote:I think you'll find what he actually said, according to the BBC is: "It's difficult to analyse. I'm getting bored and fed up of repeating the same words. I feel sorry for the fans."
Gus is getting bored with the Albion and we are getting bored with Gus.
So a nice bit of spin/misquote from The Argus then...
Interesting times ahead. GP to Palace?
Just watch your Seagulls player interview to the end and you'll hear it clearly.
So to be fair to Andy Naylor I do think he has reported it correctly. I have supported Albion, and the Argus for 60 years so I'm aware of the ability of all newspapers to create 'mischief' on occasions.
I'm also aware that good reporters keep their ear very close to the grindstone and often they are the first to spot any kind of discord. Those level headed among us appreciate all that has been achieved by all concerned - however we also cannot blindfold ourselves to what seems to be a habit of Gus' which has been to continually remind everyone that he's not committed to the club as he would always consider an offer from a 'big' club.
Now I agree that any ambitious young manager is wanting to further his career. However I would think that someone who had only spent 5 months
as an assistant player manager with a 4th tier club, Swindon, then a year as assistant at Leeds followed by a year as assistant at Spurs, where he was sacked together with Ramos, might take the attitude of gratitude at being offered his first managerial post and make a serious commitment of determination that he will reach The Premier League with us. Real commitment is very powerful and I haven't seen evidence of that in his words or actions. Does anyone know if Gus lives in the Sussex area? I don't know but the Argus has mentioned a couple of times about the coach dropping him off/picking him up somewhere near London.
There is also this belief that as soon as things go a bit awry the answer is 'get another player'. That will not wear too long. How about getting a top notch coach to improve players - that could be a start.
I'm as keen as anyone for us to keep growing as a club and I also believe that we need to wake up and smell the roses sometimes and not be fobbed off with smoke and mirrors.
I also think that the Cusack remonstrating with Barnes in the full view of fans and media is not great for morale. I know a lot of emotions are running but it doesn't take long for that kind of stuff to spread through a dressing room lacking in confidence.
These observations are not anything to do with the mini slump - they have been my concern all along as what we need is really solid commitment to create stability to go along with our fantastic infrastructure. I hope we see this soon.
The full recording of the interview is now also on the BBC site.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
958174
And in answer to your Question .I think Gus is still living in Orpington.
championshipgull
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5:20am Thu 25 Oct 12
pebble counter
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6:09am Thu 25 Oct 12
ShorehamBeachcomber
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7:46am Thu 25 Oct 12
Chrissie S wrote:Happy Birthday
I love BHA,I've been a fan since I was 6 years old. I'm 50 yrs old now. Gus Poyet is THE BEST manager we have ever had !!! We've lost five games .......so what !!! BHA have been through far worse!!! Put your faith in our great manager and our club. . .we're not Premiership material yet, but where were we 10 or even 5 years ago???? Not where we are now, with a fantastic stadium,an average gate of 25,000 supporters every home game, a manager who believes and wants the best for the his squad,Club and the fans. . .. C'mon you SEAGULLS !!!!!!!!!!
Alfie T
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7:54am Thu 25 Oct 12
Smartbloke
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8:25am Thu 25 Oct 12
dave from bexill
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9:12am Thu 25 Oct 12
By the way Wisdom, who's the "Cusack"?
mark5
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9:30am Thu 25 Oct 12
nyone have any thoughts about Vivente?!!! Ha,Ha
mark5
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9:32am Thu 25 Oct 12
Cabin fever
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9:33am Thu 25 Oct 12
WisdomSpeaks wrote:Er, I know, hence why I apologised for posting in error!
Cabin fever wrote:Why is it that some are afraid to look at facts? What Gus said was - quote "To be honest I’m getting bored managing a team like this one – really bored - so lets see what happens" - unquote.
Cabin fever wrote:Apologies, I've just seen a transcript of the interview, and it seems that ISN'T what he said.
pjwilk wrote:I think you'll find what he actually said, according to the BBC is: "It's difficult to analyse. I'm getting bored and fed up of repeating the same words. I feel sorry for the fans."
Gus is getting bored with the Albion and we are getting bored with Gus.
So a nice bit of spin/misquote from The Argus then...
Interesting times ahead. GP to Palace?
Just watch your Seagulls player interview to the end and you'll hear it clearly.
So to be fair to Andy Naylor I do think he has reported it correctly. I have supported Albion, and the Argus for 60 years so I'm aware of the ability of all newspapers to create 'mischief' on occasions.
I'm also aware that good reporters keep their ear very close to the grindstone and often they are the first to spot any kind of discord. Those level headed among us appreciate all that has been achieved by all concerned - however we also cannot blindfold ourselves to what seems to be a habit of Gus' which has been to continually remind everyone that he's not committed to the club as he would always consider an offer from a 'big' club.
Now I agree that any ambitious young manager is wanting to further his career. However I would think that someone who had only spent 5 months
as an assistant player manager with a 4th tier club, Swindon, then a year as assistant at Leeds followed by a year as assistant at Spurs, where he was sacked together with Ramos, might take the attitude of gratitude at being offered his first managerial post and make a serious commitment of determination that he will reach The Premier League with us. Real commitment is very powerful and I haven't seen evidence of that in his words or actions. Does anyone know if Gus lives in the Sussex area? I don't know but the Argus has mentioned a couple of times about the coach dropping him off/picking him up somewhere near London.
There is also this belief that as soon as things go a bit awry the answer is 'get another player'. That will not wear too long. How about getting a top notch coach to improve players - that could be a start.
I'm as keen as anyone for us to keep growing as a club and I also believe that we need to wake up and smell the roses sometimes and not be fobbed off with smoke and mirrors.
I also think that the Cusack remonstrating with Barnes in the full view of fans and media is not great for morale. I know a lot of emotions are running but it doesn't take long for that kind of stuff to spread through a dressing room lacking in confidence.
These observations are not anything to do with the mini slump - they have been my concern all along as what we need is really solid commitment to create stability to go along with our fantastic infrastructure. I hope we see this soon.
WisdomSpeaks
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10:14am Thu 25 Oct 12
dave from bexill wrote:Thanks Dave - He's my dick sleck sick teacher! Let's have a larf at all of this. 10 out of 10 my friend.
Championship Gull. I think you're wasting your breath trying to explain, but you are right. Perhaps someone could email Andy Naylor/Brian Owen and ask them to clarify with Gus.
By the way Wisdom, who's the "Cusack"?
Mystic Meg told me that Gus will be history in 12 months, Albion will merge with Crawley as Brighton & Crawley United playing in a magnificent 100,000 all seater state of the art stadium in the centre of Sussex. This facility will win the Catering Culture' Award for selling no pies, no burgers, no hotdogs. Instead, nut loaf, veggie wraps and Himalayan Spring Water only. And The Amex.........wow that will be the Centre for Extra Terrestrial Studies where they are managing to clone footballers who have super powers like Dynamo and become a feeder for B & C U! Exciting times ahead!!! Easy to forget how we thought selling the old Goldstone was bad news...........look at us now. It's like the caterpillar who eats everything in site, gobbles it all up, becomes hard and crusty,,,,,,,,,,and then,,,wow!!! Look what comes out,,,,,,,,,,the magnificent, beautiful butterfly!!!!! So what would have happened if we'd have crushed our big boots into the caterpillar????
GosportGull
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4:00pm Thu 25 Oct 12
Hoskins up front .... two upfront ..lets create and score goals..still dont fully understand Barnes role ? Try something different with "YOUR BORED " team Gus ... We are not Barcelona lets play to OUR strengths and stop trying to be something we are not ....
Captain Haddock
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2:38am Fri 26 Oct 12
pjwilk wrote:Speak for yourself.
Gus is getting bored with the Albion and we are getting bored with Gus.
Captain Haddock
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9:03am Fri 26 Oct 12
fairweathersupporter wrote:Excellent post and yes indeed, treat The Arsegas articles with a pinch of salt a giant's hand might easily grasp!
Friends(?), Countrymen, Fellow Seagulls… Lend me your ears (or eyes).
This is a cut and paste , over sensationalist, loaded article designed to whip up a tsunami in a tea cup. PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE on the club's website for what Gus said (in context). It made me feel a little bit better and assured that he is not going anywhere or completely devoid of sense or reason. I would cut and paste it here but only Andy's allowed to do that in the order that's most likely to sell, sell, sell.... ( I do REALLY appreciate the paper being behind getting the ground etc ect BUT come on, you must be able to foster a better relationship with the Albion than throwing press conference misquotes around. You might even get us some answers on the questions thrown around here for years on end: Murray etc).
There is something behind the striker issue which we have not been told. Is it a financial issue (we have a rather large, lovely piece of real estate to pay for, wage demands are generally stupid, a lot of investment going on in our FUTURE)? Is it the fact that Gus thought we could play it another way and pass them to death? Is it the players not being up to the job? The debates are ongoing and judging by this site, endless. Perhaps some questions from our intrepid reporter to the club chairman or manager would provide answers, rather than misquotes and slants on the ravings of a passionate Uruguayan who is not perfect but is better than anything we've had for some time.
We all have our frustrations on the perceived tactical void which seems to have dampened our season. But don't get swept away by deception and gossip.Unless you are of course a Palace supporter or one of the resident WUMS… Then fill yer boots for your time is now.
Cash Bull
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4:35pm Mon 29 Oct 12

krobinson says...
9:43am Wed 24 Oct 12