Albion's Vincelot joins Gills (From The Argus)

Good addition for the gills, best of luck Romain I'm sure you will be a big hit there.

So glad to hear that he is back playing as he is too good to be out of the game. I wish him well.

Bonne chance Romain.

No idea why he cannot be utilised by his home club - he has always shown 100% comitment and is so versatile. Best of luck with Gillingham and I hope there is a place back hre for younext year

Reduces the wage bill!! And frees up some money for a striker??

Yet no target man he goes on about .
should not off got rid of chris wood wherever he goes he scores.
I will be honest starting not to like poyet and i think there is unrest in the ranks.
If we have got a good youth system and good players use them .
i also the team is a closed shop regards youth being introduced.
Barker fo instance is knocking goals but
wil not get a sniff.
Sparrow is a good midfielder who scores goals but no good apparently.
We have loads of players if they are not going to be used get rid of them.
I have lost faith with poyet personally
i bet barnes plays on sat .

I wish this guy all the luck in the world. He has been a true professional both on and off the pitch during his stint with us and I for one am very grateful to him for the effort he has put in for our team.
It must be very difficult for a player to bite the bullet and leave a club on the up, the granduer of the Amex and the prestige of the Championship. My hat is off to him. Uta

leafletman wrote:
Yet no target man he goes on about .
should not off got rid of chris wood wherever he goes he scores.
I will be honest starting not to like poyet and i think there is unrest in the ranks.
If we have got a good youth system and good players use them .
i also the team is a closed shop regards youth being introduced.
Barker fo instance is knocking goals but
wil not get a sniff.
Sparrow is a good midfielder who scores goals but no good apparently.
We have loads of players if they are not going to be used get rid of them.
I have lost faith with poyet personally
i bet barnes plays on sat .

I'm not sure that Chris Wood, with ~25 goals in ~120 English league appearances is quite the "wherever he goes he scores" striker you think he is.

In a way it’s strange Gus no longer rates Romain as he is one of the only players in the squad who can actually head a ball for set pieces - for a relatively short guy I thought he was good in the air and a good tackler.

Oh well, Gus prefers players like Barnes who never wins headers and falls over every time someone breathes on him!

A good opportunity for Vincelot to show his worth. With our continually struggling midfield, it has surprised me how both he and Matt Sparrow have fallen out of favour. Both committed players and in particular, I thought Sparrow looked very good in his last couple of games last season. He is certainly not shot shy.
Noticeable on this site now that the manager is coming under closer scrutiny on a number of issues. Goals - and more importantly points need to be forthcoming over the next few games.

mikeygit wrote:
Reduces the wage bill!! And frees up some money for a striker??

If this was all about economics I could identify quite a few others who should have gone before RV. Great shame.

mikeygit wrote:
Reduces the wage bill!! And frees up some money for a striker??

BIG JOKE HA HA

Very good luck to VR Gills gain is our loss he would have been good cover in defence or M/F yes better than the EL Spainoe'ssss another £100,000 gone down the tubes .. Along with GUS Bored of Hove only Gus calls the shots.

Gillingham will have a good player in Romain, like most on here I rated the guy for effort.
Let's hope he enjoys his time in Kent.

Surely Matt Sparrow can help another League outfit, some club should have taken him by now. They don't know what they are missing.

Have no idea why Romain has not been utilised more often. Strong player, quite skillfull and very committed. Good signing for Gillingham and our loss without doubt!

He will absolutely walk league 2. Best of luck to him.Cant help thinking the treatment he recieved was a little bit shabby,told to get out the team photo and find a new club half an hour before the transfer deadline, well you get my drift.

Poplar Seagull wrote:
In a way it’s strange Gus no longer rates Romain as he is one of the only players in the squad who can actually head a ball for set pieces - for a relatively short guy I thought he was good in the air and a good tackler.

Oh well, Gus prefers players like Barnes who never wins headers and falls over every time someone breathes on him!

you're right about Vincelot, but so wrong about Barnes!

Seagull John wrote:

Poplar Seagull wrote:
In a way it’s strange Gus no longer rates Romain as he is one of the only players in the squad who can actually head a ball for set pieces - for a relatively short guy I thought he was good in the air and a good tackler.

Oh well, Gus prefers players like Barnes who never wins headers and falls over every time someone breathes on him!

you're right about Vincelot, but so wrong about Barnes!

What's wrong with the Barnes comment, only ordinary Harrison goes down easier!

The Real Ryfish wrote:

leafletman wrote:
Yet no target man he goes on about .
should not off got rid of chris wood wherever he goes he scores.
I will be honest starting not to like poyet and i think there is unrest in the ranks.
If we have got a good youth system and good players use them .
i also the team is a closed shop regards youth being introduced.
Barker fo instance is knocking goals but
wil not get a sniff.
Sparrow is a good midfielder who scores goals but no good apparently.
We have loads of players if they are not going to be used get rid of them.
I have lost faith with poyet personally
i bet barnes plays on sat .

I'm not sure that Chris Wood, with ~25 goals in ~120 English league appearances is quite the "wherever he goes he scores" striker you think he is.

Agree. We filled the team with 'tryers' last season, quality is needed, the youth and development squad is just that. The standard is not up to Championship or even below.. I'll admit that Barker should perhaps get a chance on the subs bench (now that there's more than enough for tactical changes). But Sparrow struggled to reach the required standard ( i know he scored a few goals but overall... And yes, of course i rate him above Harley).
We are:
A. A bit of luck off a half decent result, B. A centre forward off a tactical variation that may result in more of (A)
C. A good team with a good manager.
We are not:
A Going to be top half premiership any time soon .
B. Going to over invest in an unrealistic 'Fifa 13 ' vision of fantasy football.
C. Drop Barnes any time soon...

leafletman wrote:
Yet no target man he goes on about .
should not off got rid of chris wood wherever he goes he scores.
I will be honest starting not to like poyet and i think there is unrest in the ranks.
If we have got a good youth system and good players use them .
i also the team is a closed shop regards youth being introduced.
Barker fo instance is knocking goals but
wil not get a sniff.
Sparrow is a good midfielder who scores goals but no good apparently.
We have loads of players if they are not going to be used get rid of them.
I have lost faith with poyet personally
i bet barnes plays on sat .

Wherever he goes he scores ............except Brighton!! Not the right person. Stick with what we have got as we are not be able to afford to do better.

It will come right if GP is less intransigent about our style of play. The opposition is reading us like a book, they all admit as such. So we have to mix it up a bit, we are just too predictable.

Alfie T wrote:

Seagull John wrote:

Poplar Seagull wrote:
In a way it’s strange Gus no longer rates Romain as he is one of the only players in the squad who can actually head a ball for set pieces - for a relatively short guy I thought he was good in the air and a good tackler.

Oh well, Gus prefers players like Barnes who never wins headers and falls over every time someone breathes on him!

you're right about Vincelot, but so wrong about Barnes!

What's wrong with the Barnes comment, only ordinary Harrison goes down easier!

I'd sooner have Barnes winning dangerous free kicks on the edge of the box than the other 10 players who don't. It's the same reason so many fans miss Murray. Why would a fan not want a player who wins his team free kicks? And in respose to 'fairweathersupporte
r, why would Gus drop the player who was widely regarded as MoM on Tuesday?

mikeygit wrote:
Reduces the wage bill!! And frees up some money for a striker??

We'd do a whole lot better if we ditched Vicente. Let's face it we have had a lot more games out of Vincelot than we have our erstwhile Spaniard

Seagull John wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Seagull John wrote:

Poplar Seagull wrote:
In a way it’s strange Gus no longer rates Romain as he is one of the only players in the squad who can actually head a ball for set pieces - for a relatively short guy I thought he was good in the air and a good tackler.

Oh well, Gus prefers players like Barnes who never wins headers and falls over every time someone breathes on him!

you're right about Vincelot, but so wrong about Barnes!

What's wrong with the Barnes comment, only ordinary Harrison goes down easier!

I'd sooner have Barnes winning dangerous free kicks on the edge of the box than the other 10 players who don't. It's the same reason so many fans miss Murray. Why would a fan not want a player who wins his team free kicks? And in respose to 'fairweathersupporte

r, why would Gus drop the player who was widely regarded as MoM on Tuesday?

i didn't suggest dropping him. He's had a few poor games and the great Barnes debate appears to be back on the agenda (T.K for Barnes... As in Taxi for Barnes since i seem to be over explaining myself). I merely suggest to all those gunning for him that he's not going to be dropped any time soon . I defended him robustly last season and see his poorest performances for us this season as a player not too sure what he's been asked to do. Albeit marking your marker, as he did against Brum and the farm hands was not exactly what 'my mate Gus' asked him to do either.

Seagull John wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Seagull John wrote:

Poplar Seagull wrote:
In a way it’s strange Gus no longer rates Romain as he is one of the only players in the squad who can actually head a ball for set pieces - for a relatively short guy I thought he was good in the air and a good tackler.

Oh well, Gus prefers players like Barnes who never wins headers and falls over every time someone breathes on him!

you're right about Vincelot, but so wrong about Barnes!

What's wrong with the Barnes comment, only ordinary Harrison goes down easier!

I'd sooner have Barnes winning dangerous free kicks on the edge of the box than the other 10 players who don't. It's the same reason so many fans miss Murray. Why would a fan not want a player who wins his team free kicks? And in respose to 'fairweathersupporte

r, why would Gus drop the player who was widely regarded as MoM on Tuesday?

How many times has he won free kicks lately by going down when another player breathes on him, very very few, and that's because he has a reputation for it. And when he doesn't get a free kick what happens, yeh we loose possession and are under pressure. Give me the other honest ten players every time.

namgo49 wrote:

mikeygit wrote:
Reduces the wage bill!! And frees up some money for a striker??

We'd do a whole lot better if we ditched Vicente. Let's face it we have had a lot more games out of Vincelot than we have our erstwhile Spaniard

I don't think Vicente can be blamed for our current form. He is a quality player who Gus will get the best out of. Patience please.

Trying to bite my tongue but can't resist entering the Barnes debate......
Key for me is the fact that he must have been off sick when they did tackling lessons at football school. He is a cowardly tackler, which leaves him dangling a foot into a half-hearted attempt at a tackle. Result? - he is either off balance and therefore falls over or his foot is high which means he gives away a foul. Not maliciously but clumsily. And he's a hothead who cannot resist talking back or mouthing at the ref. And if he doesn't win the foul he oftens thinks he deserves when he ends up on the deck he ends up chasing a player and diving in recklessly to give away a foul or worse.

He's a tireless runner granted - but so is Mo Farah, and I don't want him on the wing either! He is the epitome of the 'jack of all trades, master of none'.

He is not a better winger than Buckley, Lua Lua or Lopez, he is not a better 'number 10' than Vicente, Dobbie or Orlandi and he's not a better midfielder than Crofts, Bridcutt or Hammond. And as we're never going to play 2 upfront all the time we play Bridcutt as a holding midfielder in a 4-1-4-1 he's not going to get a gig upfront ahead of CMS.

All in all I simply fail to understand where his band of loyal supporters see him playing. He's keeping better players out of the side and restricting our creativity in the final third.

There - I feel so much better getting all that off my chest. And of course to watching ten and a half man Albion Friday week.

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Trying to bite my tongue but can't resist entering the Barnes debate......
Key for me is the fact that he must have been off sick when they did tackling lessons at football school. He is a cowardly tackler, which leaves him dangling a foot into a half-hearted attempt at a tackle. Result? - he is either off balance and therefore falls over or his foot is high which means he gives away a foul. Not maliciously but clumsily. And he's a hothead who cannot resist talking back or mouthing at the ref. And if he doesn't win the foul he oftens thinks he deserves when he ends up on the deck he ends up chasing a player and diving in recklessly to give away a foul or worse.

He's a tireless runner granted - but so is Mo Farah, and I don't want him on the wing either! He is the epitome of the 'jack of all trades, master of none'.

He is not a better winger than Buckley, Lua Lua or Lopez, he is not a better 'number 10' than Vicente, Dobbie or Orlandi and he's not a better midfielder than Crofts, Bridcutt or Hammond. And as we're never going to play 2 upfront all the time we play Bridcutt as a holding midfielder in a 4-1-4-1 he's not going to get a gig upfront ahead of CMS.

All in all I simply fail to understand where his band of loyal supporters see him playing. He's keeping better players out of the side and restricting our creativity in the final third.

There - I feel so much better getting all that off my chest. And of course to watching ten and a half man Albion Friday week.

I think you say it all when you say 'I simply fail to understand'. There is no better player at our club in his position.
When we lost CMS and Barnes was moved upfront we lost the effectiveness and impact of both of them from which we have yet to recover.

Seagull John wrote:

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Trying to bite my tongue but can't resist entering the Barnes debate......
Key for me is the fact that he must have been off sick when they did tackling lessons at football school. He is a cowardly tackler, which leaves him dangling a foot into a half-hearted attempt at a tackle. Result? - he is either off balance and therefore falls over or his foot is high which means he gives away a foul. Not maliciously but clumsily. And he's a hothead who cannot resist talking back or mouthing at the ref. And if he doesn't win the foul he oftens thinks he deserves when he ends up on the deck he ends up chasing a player and diving in recklessly to give away a foul or worse.

He's a tireless runner granted - but so is Mo Farah, and I don't want him on the wing either! He is the epitome of the 'jack of all trades, master of none'.

He is not a better winger than Buckley, Lua Lua or Lopez, he is not a better 'number 10' than Vicente, Dobbie or Orlandi and he's not a better midfielder than Crofts, Bridcutt or Hammond. And as we're never going to play 2 upfront all the time we play Bridcutt as a holding midfielder in a 4-1-4-1 he's not going to get a gig upfront ahead of CMS.

All in all I simply fail to understand where his band of loyal supporters see him playing. He's keeping better players out of the side and restricting our creativity in the final third.

There - I feel so much better getting all that off my chest. And of course to watching ten and a half man Albion Friday week.

I think you say it all when you say 'I simply fail to understand'. There is no better player at our club in his position.
When we lost CMS and Barnes was moved upfront we lost the effectiveness and impact of both of them from which we have yet to recover.

Thank you Mrs Barnes.

Good on the management, nice to see us repaying their favour in a small way

I am still surprised that Vincelot is not wanted here, at least not ahead of Painter. There is a nice clip of Painter being skinned (too easily) in the last development game against Brentford on Seagulls player.
I dread any injury to Bridge.
Good luck Romain.

Just out of curiosity Seagull John - which position is that exactly?......

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Just out of curiosity Seagull John - which position is that exactly?......

The prone position I think Gazza.

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Just out of curiosity Seagull John - which position is that exactly?......

Well I've had to spend the last 5 years defending the qualities of Adam El-Abd to the likes of Mark by the Sea et al, so I suppose I'll have to carry on with young Barnesy now. His position clearly involves defensive duties around the edge of our penalty box where to be frank his distribution is better than Captain Greer at the moment. He is frequently the guy who brings it clear then breaks towards midfield to continue the move. His tackles are biting and whilst his control isn't always up to the standard of some of his International colleagues, that's no surprise for his age and lesser experience. However he's often the pass and go man rather than the pass and watch of one or two of the others. Remember when Vicente played, Barnes was the first player he looked for. Remember when CMS hit his scoring streak, it was when Barnes was playing close to him. Like it or not, the best missed chances have come from Barnes in the last three games because he is good enough to get in those positions. Once he gets one I'm sure he'll hit a run. Try watching him more than the ball for a while and see his involvement in much of our play. You may be surprised.

Seagull John wrote:

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Just out of curiosity Seagull John - which position is that exactly?......

Well I've had to spend the last 5 years defending the qualities of Adam El-Abd to the likes of Mark by the Sea et al, so I suppose I'll have to carry on with young Barnesy now. His position clearly involves defensive duties around the edge of our penalty box where to be frank his distribution is better than Captain Greer at the moment. He is frequently the guy who brings it clear then breaks towards midfield to continue the move. His tackles are biting and whilst his control isn't always up to the standard of some of his International colleagues, that's no surprise for his age and lesser experience. However he's often the pass and go man rather than the pass and watch of one or two of the others. Remember when Vicente played, Barnes was the first player he looked for. Remember when CMS hit his scoring streak, it was when Barnes was playing close to him. Like it or not, the best missed chances have come from Barnes in the last three games because he is good enough to get in those positions. Once he gets one I'm sure he'll hit a run. Try watching him more than the ball for a while and see his involvement in much of our play. You may be surprised.

I admire your support for him, however "His tackles are biting" as Mac would have said "You cannot be serious" My Gran without her teeth in has more bite.