Zaha blasts back at Poyet (From The Argus)

The Real Ryfish says...
10:13am Tue 13 Nov 12

Very different types of wingers, but at the moment Buckley is more productive. Zaha however will no doubt be sold for far more money, especially with his call-up.

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The Real Ryfish says...
10:33am Tue 13 Nov 12

Also, Zaha thinks only Messi and Ronaldo are better than him, so I think we can safely discount any of his opinions :-) There's self-belief and there's self-delusion!

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seagullsovergrimsby says...
11:14am Tue 13 Nov 12

Winifred Zaha makes Tom Daley look like an amateur

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Cory and Trevor says...
11:16am Tue 13 Nov 12

I'm with Zaha on this. Gus should have more class than to come out and put down a great young player. Comparisons are odious at the best of times. Poor form.

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Dr Baldhead says...
11:20am Tue 13 Nov 12

Gotta say good for Wilfreid on this one! Although his response has been seen as arrogant but some BHAFC fans on Twitter, I agree: what was the point of GP drawing the comparison?

Will Buck is one of our best players - probably up there with Bridders and Kuszack for player of the year so far - but he really didn't need this. I know GP was being complementary, but all it has done is draw scorn from the Palace fans and poor old Will's gonna attract plenty of abuse in the game at Selhurst. Don't think he'll thank Gus for that!

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Rhodes Seagull says...
11:20am Tue 13 Nov 12

Zaha 20 years old knows more about football than Gus with more experience in his little finger than Zaha has in his whole body, think he should stay of the shandy, Zaha that is.

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Cabin fever says...
11:30am Tue 13 Nov 12

Gus' comments were ages ago, and if we're complaining about comparisons, where do you stand on Zaha's "Only Messi and Ronaldo are better than me" line?

Although that, probably like Gus' words, have probably been taken out of context and are probably nothing more than the beginning of the big build up to the game on 1st December.

Oh, and CPFC trying to get a bit more money for Zaha when he's sold in the transfer window.

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Cory and Trevor says...
11:43am Tue 13 Nov 12

Cabin fever wrote:
Gus' comments were ages ago, and if we're complaining about comparisons, where do you stand on Zaha's "Only Messi and Ronaldo are better than me" line?

Although that, probably like Gus' words, have probably been taken out of context and are probably nothing more than the beginning of the big build up to the game on 1st December.

Oh, and CPFC trying to get a bit more money for Zaha when he's sold in the transfer window.

But Zaha has just turned 20 years of age. Gus is older, and a manager. That was my point. He shouldn't draw comparisons like that.

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Bucket feet Duffy says...
11:45am Tue 13 Nov 12

Mervyn Day surplus to requirements at West Ham they now have an x carpenter scouting for them armed with a 6'6 tape measure with a remit of anyone taller, preferably with a big head too sign them!
Regarding the main body of the article, everyone is entitled to their opinion both Zaha and Buckers are good players, beware of the argus Troll it's his job to be controversial in order to sell papers and increase advertising revenue, I am sure if he can stoke it up he will as much as possible prior too Dec 1st. IMO

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score says...
12:03pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Come on, Poyet only said this to put off anyone interested in Buckley.

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Neillo says...
12:08pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Zaha has already tweeted that he has been misquoted in an interview with the Mail.

As for Poyet, well he does have a tendency to say somewhat unusual things to the Press.

Did he not say that watching his team sent him to sleep ? Maybe then it was only in his dreams that Buckley is the better player...

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tug509 says...
12:09pm Tue 13 Nov 12

If Gus was originally asked for his opinion on cp`s over inflated valuation of zaha,then he is perfectly entitled to his opinion.If he was not asked,his opinion is still valid,whether to boost WB enthusiasm or simply because he believes it,personally i think Will is a far better all round player,at least at the moment.Managers of other clubs have commented on some of our players already this season,some positive some negative,so what, that is their opinion and whether you or i agree with it or not,does`nt matter they are entitled,just as Gus is.Maybe this arrogant dislikeable upstart will become another Messi in the future,but he imo is a long way short from what little i have seen of him,the acid test will be how he copes on Dec 1st!!. Gus has been there seen it and done it,that gives him the right to express his belief,if a spoilt child cant handle that,how will he handle top flight football.Seagullsove
rGrimsby got it right,zaha goes down far too often and too easily,perhaps this is one of the things that Gus was eluding to,when complementing Will. Aside all that ,when have cp ever missed an opportunity to moan at us?..Keep it up Gus..UTA

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Bucket feet Duffy says...
12:26pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Neillo wrote:
Zaha has already tweeted that he has been misquoted in an interview with the Mail.

As for Poyet, well he does have a tendency to say somewhat unusual things to the Press.

Did he not say that watching his team sent him to sleep ? Maybe then it was only in his dreams that Buckley is the better player...

so the Troll is the mail's misquoting journalist, from a woman's magazine masquerading as a spread sheet newspaper, I would like to see Zaha given a chance for England as I said before he is a good player, IMO

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Weploughandmow says...
12:36pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Another Nothing Story from the Argus.

I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace.

I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper.

I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in.

Steve Coppell was a great manager, too.

A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.

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Neillo says...
12:40pm Tue 13 Nov 12

tug509

Poyet is clearly trying to talk up Buckley's value. Come January if he's as good as Poyet claims, then expect interest from Premiership clubs.

A little odd that he hasn't already been linked to the top 4 or to Real Madrid. Or been called up by England.

All to come I guess

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the taffster says...
12:47pm Tue 13 Nov 12

will buckley unfortunately wouldnt tie zahas laces at the mo.zaha looks the buisiness,buckleys being used as a sub, mostly.good news is tyronne barnett is available at posh.dont miss the boat this time gus.hes just the hold up player we need to compliment cms.

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Dr Baldhead says...
1:11pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Weploughandmow wrote:
Another Nothing Story from the Argus.

I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace.

I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper.

I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in.

Steve Coppell was a great manager, too.

A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.

Agreed - good post! A little rivallry is fine but this Palace thing has become a big distraction. We've 3 games to play before we play them....

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Beethoven says...
1:19pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Sensitive lad, isn't he?

The context of Gus' remark shows that no slur on Zaha was intended. I agree that Weploughandmow has made an excellent point.

Come Thursday A M the media interest in Zaha will go back to normal. I hope that he gets on the pitch and has a good game for England

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Hovite says...
1:36pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Dr Baldhead wrote:

Weploughandmow wrote:
Another Nothing Story from the Argus.

I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace.

I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper.

I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in.

Steve Coppell was a great manager, too.

A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.
Agreed - good post! A little rivallry is fine but this Palace thing has become a big distraction. We've 3 games to play before we play them....

I don't like being instructed to stand up on the hate Palace chants.

Some fans are out of their seat and spitting the song before you can say St.

If it was sit down if you hate Palace, I wouldn't jump up, but don't tell me to stand up I'm not a slave to it.

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PressBoxTeaBoy says...
1:42pm Tue 13 Nov 12

What Gus was actually saying, or trying to say, (two weeks ago), was Buckley is NOT for sale in the realms of the standard 1 - 2 million Championship expectation, (Al La Noone going to Cardiff). Which translated, means he would only be for sale in the realms of 10 million. (Al La Zaha going somewhere in Jan).

I thought Gus was making a very good and valid point. He wasn't so much comparing Zaha and Buckley as players but more so as one being valued at 10 million makes the other also valued at 10+million.

So, in Gus's round about way, just letting all the would be sniffers who'll be around in the Jan Transfer window to not waste our time with 1 million offers for Buckley.

End of... stop the fuss...and remember.... every player is for sale, always has been always will be, it's just the valuation that makes it happen or not, it's how football clubs make money, and thus, its how they progress.

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tug509 says...
1:46pm Tue 13 Nov 12

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
What Gus was actually saying, or trying to say, (two weeks ago), was Buckley is NOT for sale in the realms of the standard 1 - 2 million Championship expectation, (Al La Noone going to Cardiff). Which translated, means he would only be for sale in the realms of 10 million. (Al La Zaha going somewhere in Jan).

I thought Gus was making a very good and valid point. He wasn't so much comparing Zaha and Buckley as players but more so as one being valued at 10 million makes the other also valued at 10+million.

So, in Gus's round about way, just letting all the would be sniffers who'll be around in the Jan Transfer window to not waste our time with 1 million offers for Buckley.

End of... stop the fuss...and remember.... every player is for sale, always has been always will be, it's just the valuation that makes it happen or not, it's how football clubs make money, and thus, its how they progress.

Well said,and less emotionally charged than my effort. .UTA

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guspoyet says...
2:06pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Hovite wrote:

Dr Baldhead wrote:

Weploughandmow wrote:
Another Nothing Story from the Argus.

I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace.

I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper.

I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in.

Steve Coppell was a great manager, too.

A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.
Agreed - good post! A little rivallry is fine but this Palace thing has become a big distraction. We've 3 games to play before we play them....
I don't like being instructed to stand up on the hate Palace chants.

Some fans are out of their seat and spitting the song before you can say St.

If it was sit down if you hate Palace, I wouldn't jump up, but don't tell me to stand up I'm not a slave to it.

Couldn't agree more with this thread. When we play Palace no one wants us to win more than I do but for the rest of the time I hope they do well and their fans enjoy watching them. The same goes for any team - no one would want anyone's team to go the way Portsmouth have for example. There is plenty of room for many good teams and we should especially try to support teams in football generally who are striving to end the chequebook success that has so spoiled elements of the game.

[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Baldhead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weploughandmow[/bold] wrote: Another Nothing Story from the Argus. I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace. I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper. I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in. Steve Coppell was a great manager, too. A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Agreed - good post! A little rivallry is fine but this Palace thing has become a big distraction. We've 3 games to play before we play them....[/p][/quote]I don't like being instructed to stand up on the hate Palace chants. Some fans are out of their seat and spitting the song before you can say St. If it was sit down if you hate Palace, I wouldn't jump up, but don't tell me to stand up I'm not a slave to it.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more with this thread. When we play Palace no one wants us to win more than I do but for the rest of the time I hope they do well and their fans enjoy watching them. The same goes for any team - no one would want anyone's team to go the way Portsmouth have for example. There is plenty of room for many good teams and we should especially try to support teams in football generally who are striving to end the chequebook success that has so spoiled elements of the game. guspoyet

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championshipgull says...
2:11pm Tue 13 Nov 12

He sounds a OK kind of a lad to me, : From his twitter page.
I am a Professional Footballer for Crystal Palace FC & England U21...#TeamZaha #TeamBallers
#TeamJesus #instagram : yungzahaOfficial_Zah
a.. ‏@yungzaha
Thanks for all the supportive messages and those who understood my interview wasn't me trying to arrogant ...
Official_Zaha.. ‏@yungzaha
But I will learn from this and explain in further detail what I mean when I make certain statements ...
Official_Zaha.. ‏@yungzaha
My words were absolutely twisted and taken the wrong way in my last interview..

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Gee Jay says...
2:16pm Tue 13 Nov 12

I'm with you 'weploughandmow'

Crystal Palace are just another football club, they have had a good run of results but will sell this lad in January.
He will be sold for an inflated sum, he will sit on the bench and maybe come on as a sub in one or two games in the Premiership. He will also be earning himself a huge amount of money for a young guy. Let's see if he is mature enough to cope will all that this will bring with it, many don't.
Personally, I hope he does cope and that he developes into a top player for England.

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the herbster says...
2:58pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Scouting and Talent identification Manager. Really

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pablobrowno says...
2:58pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Puts me in mind of when Leon Knight said he was better than Jermaine Defo. That's entertainment! :)

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pablobrowno says...
2:59pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Sorry, Defoe!

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VegasSeagull says...
3:01pm Tue 13 Nov 12

If you think about it Gus has done what Palace have done, 'if you want my player this is the price.' The price tag attached to Zahar came from Palace, a signal to the prem teams who might want him. Is Buckley player as good as he is, maybe, will a prem club want Buckley, another maybe but what is certain is that if they both get bought the price will be high, Gus and Palace have seen to that.

If, and that's a big if, both players get sold the sale of the first of them to be sold will set the price for the other. We have heard talk of Zahar moving on but have we heard about any prem club wanting Buckley, I I haven't. This could all be no more than Gus creating a market for a player that doesn't have one right now, this could be a very move by Gus. . ..

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VegasSeagull says...
3:24pm Tue 13 Nov 12

I think that there are two comments thta have been made by Gus that should be read as one. 'Brighton are not ready for the Premiership and, 'Buckley is valued at 10+ million.' I might add a third comment made a couple of months ago regarding CMS, Gus told us how close we were to selling him but the offer wasn't quite right.

Brighton will sell players if the price is right, we know that. A combined price of 16+ million for Buckley and CMS would be good buisness. At our level 4 million buys a good player, two out and four in could be the start of a rebuild for next year, they year we really go for it. Gus would also have his annual lump sum for transfers that the club give him. If Gus had maybe, 22 million to go shopping with for 2013/14 I could see that as a real attempt for promotion.

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Dingbat99 says...
5:21pm Tue 13 Nov 12

the taffster wrote:
will buckley unfortunately wouldnt tie zahas laces at the mo.zaha looks the buisiness,buckleys being used as a sub, mostly.good news is tyronne barnett is available at posh.dont miss the boat this time gus.hes just the hold up player we need to compliment cms.

Buckley has been used as a sub because he has had injury problems but still scored more goals in less appearances than Zaha so forget the tying of laces comparison. Gus was talking about Buckley's value in the transfer window, nothing more than that.
Tyrone Barnett has been transfer listed for being in a night club with other players, and other misdemeanours so not the player we need to compliment CMS, Posh fans will tell you that.

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Freeloaders says...
5:46pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Dingbat99 wrote:

the taffster wrote:
will buckley unfortunately wouldnt tie zahas laces at the mo.zaha looks the buisiness,buckleys being used as a sub, mostly.good news is tyronne barnett is available at posh.dont miss the boat this time gus.hes just the hold up player we need to compliment cms.
Buckley has been used as a sub because he has had injury problems but still scored more goals in less appearances than Zaha so forget the tying of laces comparison. Gus was talking about Buckley's value in the transfer window, nothing more than that.
Tyrone Barnett has been transfer listed for being in a night club with other players, and other misdemeanours so not the player we need to compliment CMS, Posh fans will tell you that.

Good post my friend,we had the most players before the courts last season.But im sure that night club drunk Lua Lua would be happy if we did sign him.Just on news prem league will get even more tv money next season.

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championshipgull says...
6:01pm Tue 13 Nov 12

championshipgull wrote:
He sounds a OK kind of a lad to me, : From his twitter page.
I am a Professional Footballer for Crystal Palace FC & England U21...#TeamZaha #TeamBallers
#TeamJesus #instagram : yungzahaOfficial_Zah

a.. ‏@yungzaha
Thanks for all the supportive messages and those who understood my interview wasn't me trying to arrogant ...
Official_Zaha.. ‏@yungzaha
But I will learn from this and explain in further detail what I mean when I make certain statements ...
Official_Zaha.. ‏@yungzaha
My words were absolutely twisted and taken the wrong way in my last interview..

Sky sports now reporting on Zaha’s twitter. 3 hours after my post . Do keep up Sky sports.
http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
12016/8245927/Zaha-M
y-words-were-twisted

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Alfie T says...
6:02pm Tue 13 Nov 12

guspoyet wrote:

Hovite wrote:

Dr Baldhead wrote:

Weploughandmow wrote:
Another Nothing Story from the Argus.

I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace.

I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper.

I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in.

Steve Coppell was a great manager, too.

A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.
Agreed - good post! A little rivallry is fine but this Palace thing has become a big distraction. We've 3 games to play before we play them....
I don't like being instructed to stand up on the hate Palace chants.

Some fans are out of their seat and spitting the song before you can say St.

If it was sit down if you hate Palace, I wouldn't jump up, but don't tell me to stand up I'm not a slave to it.
Couldn't agree more with this thread. When we play Palace no one wants us to win more than I do but for the rest of the time I hope they do well and their fans enjoy watching them. The same goes for any team - no one would want anyone's team to go the way Portsmouth have for example. There is plenty of room for many good teams and we should especially try to support teams in football generally who are striving to end the chequebook success that has so spoiled elements of the game.

Chant makes no sense as they are already standing up!...... On the Buckley Zaha debate, I'm happy we have Will, and I think their match impact is comparable, very exciting edge of the seat type players. Buckley will play in the Prem nailed on, an England call maybe a way off, but if he gets fitter and stronger,who knows his straight line speed is awesome.

[quote][p][bold]guspoyet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Baldhead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weploughandmow[/bold] wrote: Another Nothing Story from the Argus. I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace. I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper. I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in. Steve Coppell was a great manager, too. A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Agreed - good post! A little rivallry is fine but this Palace thing has become a big distraction. We've 3 games to play before we play them....[/p][/quote]I don't like being instructed to stand up on the hate Palace chants. Some fans are out of their seat and spitting the song before you can say St. If it was sit down if you hate Palace, I wouldn't jump up, but don't tell me to stand up I'm not a slave to it.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more with this thread. When we play Palace no one wants us to win more than I do but for the rest of the time I hope they do well and their fans enjoy watching them. The same goes for any team - no one would want anyone's team to go the way Portsmouth have for example. There is plenty of room for many good teams and we should especially try to support teams in football generally who are striving to end the chequebook success that has so spoiled elements of the game.[/p][/quote]Chant makes no sense as they are already standing up!...... On the Buckley Zaha debate, I'm happy we have Will, and I think their match impact is comparable, very exciting edge of the seat type players. Buckley will play in the Prem nailed on, an England call maybe a way off, but if he gets fitter and stronger,who knows his straight line speed is awesome. Alfie T

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cullipmyhero says...
6:33pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Zaha will probably be a bench warmer for premier league team by January anyway, so nothing to worry about...

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raymondo999 says...
6:42pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Guardian has a very interesting and thoughtful piece on Zaha today. Sounds like a very gifted and grounded young man. Ignore third rate journalists who use terms like " blasts poyet" etc. That said, given its only third rate journalists who report on the Albion, can someone please give Gus some media training so he stops putting his foot in his mouth

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vogon1 says...
7:12pm Tue 13 Nov 12

It's just an opinion from Gus. That's all
Palace have a good player in Zaha. However, Gus thinks he has a better player in Buckley. What's the problem?
Personally, I think Gus is spot on

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ShorehamBeachcomber says...
8:51pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Weploughandmow wrote:
Another Nothing Story from the Argus.

I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace.

I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper.

I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in.

Steve Coppell was a great manager, too.

A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.

Pathetic post

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Baldseagull says...
9:04pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Weploughandmow wrote:
Another Nothing Story from the Argus.

I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace.

I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper.

I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in.

Steve Coppell was a great manager, too.

A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.

Those must have been pseudo punches that have been exchanged regularly over the years then.
Gerry Ryan must have been faking that snapped leg and we should be chanting Dolphins when we get a corner.
What makes a real rivalry for you?

Living next door to each other like Liverpool and Everton?

Belonging to counties on opposite sides of the civil war like Leeds and Man Utd?

Religious differences like Rangers and Celtic?

Our rivalry with Palace is one of the few in the country where both sets of supporters are largely in agreement, we hate Palace, they hate Brighton.
There is no pretence for me.

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Hovite says...
9:39pm Tue 13 Nov 12

I hate early mornings and I hate Cadbury’s cream eggs but I don’t let it get the better of me.

Baldseagull, is there anything in this world that you hate more than Palace? or do they score 11 on the hate scale of 1 - 10?

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Brighton Bill says...
9:44pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Cory and Trevor wrote:
I'm with Zaha on this. Gus should have more class than to come out and put down a great young player. Comparisons are odious at the best of times. Poor form.

Gus does make a habit of engaging his mouth before his brain is in gear.

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Vince says...
11:01pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Brighton Bill wrote:

Cory and Trevor wrote: I'm with Zaha on this. Gus should have more class than to come out and put down a great young player. Comparisons are odious at the best of times. Poor form.
Gus does make a habit of engaging his mouth before his brain is in gear.

Whats with all this Gus Fuss?

Part of the beauty of listening to Gus's interviews is trying to establish exactly what he is trying to say! When he first arrived Johnny Byrne and co were always having a great laugh on BBC Sussex radio, following a Gus interview.
The bottom line is that he cares, secondly he is passionate and gets wrapped up in the game. Surely that's the fun for all of us - to get involved, heated at the referees perennial incompetence - always biased against us!!! Look at last season, we were one of the most sinned against teams in the Championship, but had the worst disciplinary record. Gus used to get apoplytclic with the injustice of it all. Yes, he should be calm, composed, aloof, etc etc etc... but as Gus says "THAT'S ME" Take me as I am or leave it.

Whether you agree with his team selections, or his tactics, or his purchases or his promises... or not...you just gotta love him!

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paul the hill says...
11:11pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Can we get back to seagulls. I'm thinking we win 1 nil at Huddersfield. Apart from the 4 players transfer listed yesterday at Peterborough including a defender 2 fowards and a winger, last weekend Zamora becchio matt tubbs were on bench as substitutes could we get them on loan? Also time to get jfc back if Vicente is continuing to not be fit.
Seagulls!!!!

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jarmonesque says...
7:41am Wed 14 Nov 12

I'm with Baldseagull, I hate Palace, I hate Selhurst, I hate the fact they played 'who let the dogs out' and all the palace idiots woofed when Dougie freedman scored.......Etc. Zaha is just the new Vince Hilaire.

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jarmonesque says...
7:43am Wed 14 Nov 12

And Coppell has VD

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Baldseagull says...
8:03am Wed 14 Nov 12

Hovite wrote:
I hate early mornings and I hate Cadbury’s cream eggs but I don’t let it get the better of me.

Baldseagull, is there anything in this world that you hate more than Palace? or do they score 11 on the hate scale of 1 - 10?

I am a rational and open minded person with no religious beliefs, political biases or racial prejudices in normal life.
Supporting a football club is not a rational thing to do though, to pay your money and watch even when you know the football will be dire, to attach real emotion to victory or defeat or to travel to the ends of the country to chant the names of players who will change clubs at the drop of a hat if they get a better offer, is all illogical.
As far as football clubs go, I hate none more than Palace, love none more than Brighton. That is the way it is, if you examine it, both positions are absurd, so don't think about it, feel it.

Is there any confectionery in this world you hate more than cream eggs or do they score 11 on the hate scale?

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Vicente_1 says...
8:09am Wed 14 Nov 12

Zaha is clearly better than buckley purely on the fact he has an end product! Buckley 80% of the time does something amazing then scoops in a hopeless cross.

Poyet was just trying to point out how ridiculous 10 million for a championship player is and putting people off buckley! Palace arent even our rivals portsmouth and southampton all day for me Palace are just some london club who arent big enough to take on Millwall etc i feel sorry them ! "you should have burnt more, You should have burnt moreee!"

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tug509 says...
9:49am Wed 14 Nov 12

Baldseagull wrote:

Hovite wrote:
I hate early mornings and I hate Cadbury’s cream eggs but I don’t let it get the better of me.

Baldseagull, is there anything in this world that you hate more than Palace? or do they score 11 on the hate scale of 1 - 10?
I am a rational and open minded person with no religious beliefs, political biases or racial prejudices in normal life.
Supporting a football club is not a rational thing to do though, to pay your money and watch even when you know the football will be dire, to attach real emotion to victory or defeat or to travel to the ends of the country to chant the names of players who will change clubs at the drop of a hat if they get a better offer, is all illogical.
As far as football clubs go, I hate none more than Palace, love none more than Brighton. That is the way it is, if you examine it, both positions are absurd, so don't think about it, feel it.

Is there any confectionery in this world you hate more than cream eggs or do they score 11 on the hate scale?

Excellent post,flawlessly based,and one i believe i share...UTA

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Cabin fever says...
9:57am Wed 14 Nov 12

Baldseagull wrote:

Hovite wrote:
I hate early mornings and I hate Cadbury’s cream eggs but I don’t let it get the better of me.

Baldseagull, is there anything in this world that you hate more than Palace? or do they score 11 on the hate scale of 1 - 10?
I am a rational and open minded person with no religious beliefs, political biases or racial prejudices in normal life.
Supporting a football club is not a rational thing to do though, to pay your money and watch even when you know the football will be dire, to attach real emotion to victory or defeat or to travel to the ends of the country to chant the names of players who will change clubs at the drop of a hat if they get a better offer, is all illogical.
As far as football clubs go, I hate none more than Palace, love none more than Brighton. That is the way it is, if you examine it, both positions are absurd, so don't think about it, feel it.

Is there any confectionery in this world you hate more than cream eggs or do they score 11 on the hate scale?

To be honest, I'm not sure how you can HATE either a piece of chocolate or a football club.

Not like, maybe. But HATE?

Crystal Palace are just another football club to me...

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Hovite says...
11:05am Wed 14 Nov 12

Exactly my point CF, hate is a strong word and I can save my hate for creatures like; Peter Sutcliffe, Fred and Mary West, Ian Huntly, Mark Dixie, Shane Jenkin, Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, Jimmy Savile etc etc

If we are going to hate everything Palace, that also includes Mullery and Coppell who are part of our heritage. Not forgetting Murray, and you can throw Dean Hammond in for the hell of it, just because they fit the hate profile.

You do write well Baldseagull and I respect your passion, but I haven’t got enough time to hate a football club.

On the real hate scale of 1 – 10, using the above list as the hate bench mark for 10, I would hate Palace about 2, so why am I instructed to stand up and sing hate Palace when we are playing Birmingham. Fair enough when we play Palace but even then it’s just all for the panto effect.

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Weploughandmow says...
11:06am Wed 14 Nov 12

Baldseagull wrote:

Weploughandmow wrote:
Another Nothing Story from the Argus.

I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace.

I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper.

I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in.

Steve Coppell was a great manager, too.

A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.
Those must have been pseudo punches that have been exchanged regularly over the years then.
Gerry Ryan must have been faking that snapped leg and we should be chanting Dolphins when we get a corner.
What makes a real rivalry for you?

Living next door to each other like Liverpool and Everton?

Belonging to counties on opposite sides of the civil war like Leeds and Man Utd?

Religious differences like Rangers and Celtic?

Our rivalry with Palace is one of the few in the country where both sets of supporters are largely in agreement, we hate Palace, they hate Brighton.
There is no pretence for me.

No, those punches were real. Just like the ones I've seen over the years from followers of Millwall, Reading, Southampton, Chelsea and others. Gary Hart had his leg broken at Peterborough and Kazenga Lualua at Hartlepool. You could say that all of those clubs have been "rivals" of some kind . . . or none of them. At least Liverpool and Everton play each other every season: Brighton and Palace have been in different leagues more often than not in recent years. As Cabin Fever says, they're just another football club - and I admire more than I dislike about them, including their ability to bring through young players and their inclination to stand up to the bullying of larger clubs. Brighton's my club and I'm as emotional about them as the next man. I know Palace fans and I like and respect them. Mine is a plea to the Argus, really, to drop the provocative language, because it's unnecessary and does more harm than good in relations between supporters of different foortball clubs.

[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weploughandmow[/bold] wrote: Another Nothing Story from the Argus. I'm a BHA season ticket holder of some twenty years and Ive been watching the Albion for more than forty. I enjoy watching Will Buckley as much as I have anybody who's worn the stripes in that time and I hope we keep him. But I also think Zaha is a really skillful and exciting footballer, and good luck to him and Crystal Palace. I've never bought into the pseudo-rivalry with Crystal Palace and I wish the Argus would just stop trying to stoke bad feeling. It is disingenuous at best and has no place in a decent newspaper. I really admire Ian Holloway, think Glenn Murray is an excellent centre forward and I hope Palace get promoted along with us. They're a fine football club with a sound history and both they and we should stop pretending that we dislike each other any more than any other club in the league we happen to be playing in. Steve Coppell was a great manager, too. A Palace game is worth three points just like any other. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Those must have been pseudo punches that have been exchanged regularly over the years then. Gerry Ryan must have been faking that snapped leg and we should be chanting Dolphins when we get a corner. What makes a real rivalry for you? Living next door to each other like Liverpool and Everton? Belonging to counties on opposite sides of the civil war like Leeds and Man Utd? Religious differences like Rangers and Celtic? Our rivalry with Palace is one of the few in the country where both sets of supporters are largely in agreement, we hate Palace, they hate Brighton. There is no pretence for me.[/p][/quote]No, those punches were real. Just like the ones I've seen over the years from followers of Millwall, Reading, Southampton, Chelsea and others. Gary Hart had his leg broken at Peterborough and Kazenga Lualua at Hartlepool. You could say that all of those clubs have been "rivals" of some kind . . . or none of them. At least Liverpool and Everton play each other every season: Brighton and Palace have been in different leagues more often than not in recent years. As Cabin Fever says, they're just another football club - and I admire more than I dislike about them, including their ability to bring through young players and their inclination to stand up to the bullying of larger clubs. Brighton's my club and I'm as emotional about them as the next man. I know Palace fans and I like and respect them. Mine is a plea to the Argus, really, to drop the provocative language, because it's unnecessary and does more harm than good in relations between supporters of different foortball clubs. Weploughandmow

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Neillo says...
12:00pm Wed 14 Nov 12

I think the rivalry between Brighton and Palace will always be there for some. But with the influx of fans ' new ' to BHA that actually support Premier League clubs first and foremost, they will have no idea what that rivalry is all about. And less inclined to engage in it. So I see it gradually fading away....

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tug509 says...
12:28pm Wed 14 Nov 12

In my local we have two Millwall lads,one Charlton (Ex copper) and about six Hammers lads and they all say the same thing,palace are a pain in the a**e,always grief. Most teams are happy to have one rivalry,they`ve got at least four!.That has to tell you something.It`s 41 years since my first Albion game,i have sat and had a beer with Palace fans once in that time,it would make my season to be able to repeat that,but i wont hold my breath!!.UTA....ps agree,the Argus needs to stop stirring the pot!.

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Hovite says...
12:46pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Yep nothing wrong with rivalry, my only question of it is being over the top. Many forget that there are lots of children at these games now days and there is nothing worse than them seeing grown men buying into spitting hate of a rival, it only encourages trouble which kids shouldn’t have to witness.

I don’t want to frighten kids at the football by behaving like an idiot especially in this day and age of football when we are trying to make it a family day out. It's called evolution.

I am not making excuses for idiot Palace fans before anyone suggests that I am.

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Hovite says...
12:56pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Have to also add that I frequently started the in your Palace slums songs in North Stand in the 80’s when my singing career was at its peak, so I'm not perfect.

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VegasSeagull says...
1:16pm Wed 14 Nov 12

So this is situation. It's the last game of the season, we need to win our game and Palace have to beat team 'X,' of they will get the final playoff place, we win and so do Palace, now just how much do you hate Palace?

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tug509 says...
1:21pm Wed 14 Nov 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
So this is situation. It's the last game of the season, we need to win our game and Palace have to beat team 'X,' of they will get the final playoff place, we win and so do Palace, now just how much do you hate Palace?

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C`mon Vegas,..ask them the same question!.UTA

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VegasSeagull says...
2:02pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Tug I don't care about them, unless they can help us. I just think that all this talk about, 'hate,' is a joke and we need to get over it. Liverpool fans don't hate Everton, they want to beat them every chance they get but they don't hate them.
As Hovite said, rivalry is a good thing but hate should be reserved for those that truly deserve it.

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tug509 says...
2:35pm Wed 14 Nov 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
Tug I don't care about them, unless they can help us. I just think that all this talk about, 'hate,' is a joke and we need to get over it. Liverpool fans don't hate Everton, they want to beat them every chance they get but they don't hate them.
As Hovite said, rivalry is a good thing but hate should be reserved for those that truly deserve it.

Both yourself and Hovite are spot on,its an unfortunately overused word,and very often little thought goes into thinking how final it is,myself included. Hovites list is a good example of what to hate,but in general i dont think there are many that would truly mean it when describing another team,even when its that lot.Going back to Hovites post,making sure the kids at the Amex are not bathed in an atmosphere of bile is important,far better to simply point out that they support the 2015-16 Premier league champions.UTA

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Hovite says...
4:20pm Wed 14 Nov 12

United we stand on this UTA

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golddene says...
6:07pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Hovite wrote:
United we stand on this UTA

Too true Hovie, i dislike them but only because of the rivalry, not really them. I remember my first visit to smellhurst with the real Peter Taylor at the helm (not the p----ce one) they were a bigger club than us in those days, we had Barry Butlin on loan from Luton Town leading our attack and he scored in the first five mins and we defended stoutly for the next 85 and ran out 0-1 winners the atmosphere was quite scary after the match with their outraged support looking for Albion fans to take their disappointment out on, but we managed to come away unscathed with our scarves hidden (discretion being the better part of valour) until we had reached the safety of my motor, i can still remember my mate sitting in the passenger seat and asking a group of their fans what the score had been and driving away quite rapidly when he replied "ALBION"after one had told him.Those were the days.SEAGULLS.
p.s. i now have two of their supporters as colleagues and to be honest they are just normal people who happen to follow a different team.

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Hovite says...
6:51pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Nice anecdote golddene I enjoyed that, appy days ;o)

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