Orlandi wants to see Vicente back (From The Argus)

Thought we were due another non story on Vicente. I too want to see him back in a Seagulls shirt, doing the business for the team.

If being part of a championship team with 5 Spanish compadre`s on the pitch is`nt enough incentive to play,nothing will be. But would love to see it. UTA

He didn't want to come back this season, he obviously doesn't want to play for the seagulls and all the lame(excuse the pun) excuses about injuries are wearing a bit thin. Concentrate on the players that are doing it for the team and get shot of the dead wood however good a player they once were.

Argus really!!! the Spanish Armada failed....is that what you are saying about our Albion?

It would be exciting to see but will it ever happen ...hopefully he will prove us all wrong and be the player he was last season ... I loved watching his passing,forward runs , ball control and his goals too ! He inspired the team ..be good to see more of the same .. Im thinking Christmas at the earliest though ... GG

Clean Sheet wrote:
Thought we were due another non story on Vicente. I too want to see him back in a Seagulls shirt, doing the business for the team.

Hardly a 'non-story' - he says that Vicente is in good spirits. That alone is news worth knowing. At least he's not moping around and not interacting with anyone.

Him and several thousand fans!

I wonder if he suffers from depression....It doesn't sound physical.

Ditto jolly roger. Andrea how we all would love him to be playing. Blooming e.u rules on male paternity leave. Etc :-). Perhaps we need to draw chelsea or man u in the cup bet that might light a quicker recovery.

Afraid Vicente is like Owen ,i see he is injured again after his one game.So glad we did not buy him.But you never know miracles do happen.

release the guy and use the wages to pay for a player whos going to play more than one game a season.enigma when hes playing.but overall a liablity.

StevieD wrote:
He didn't want to come back this season, he obviously doesn't want to play for the seagulls and all the lame(excuse the pun) excuses about injuries are wearing a bit thin. Concentrate on the players that are doing it for the team and get shot of the dead wood however good a player they once were.

What if he's actually injured?

I wonder if the Argus has any investigative reporters if so, why not set them to work on the Vicente situation.

The club is telling us nothing, or nothing of note. Vicente is saying nothing. The players are saying nothing, other than things such as what is contained in this article. If the fans are being conned by the club we should know about it. If the club is being conned by Vicente we should know about it. The collective known as th, 'fans,' pay everyone's wages, it is they that pay the Albion's bills, they have a right to be told a difinitive answer.

If it is all about a serious injury, if there is light at the end of the tunnel them tell us. If they guy is simply sitting out the term of his contract for what ever reason then tell us that too.

Vicente is top class we all know that. Brighton are better with him than without him, we know that too. We know all the positive things about Vicente, now we just need to know the answer to the question and that being, will he or won't he play again for us and if so, when?

If you think about it we had more info on Elphik's injury and recovery and Elphik, with all due respect, aint no Vicente.
Some might say that we don't have a, 'right,' to know but I would argue that we do. Stars of the stage and screen, music and sport have a right to privacy with regard to their personal lives but their professional lives are public. I have no interest in his private life I just want to know about his soccor life and if it's a private issue keeping him out, then let the guy go and allow him some peace and quiet.

I saw Vicente on Saturday night with most of the other Albion players hitting the bars in Brighton, so he is still around at least!

He still didn't look that happy though!

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder if the Argus has any investigative reporters if so, why not set them to work on the Vicente situation.

The club is telling us nothing, or nothing of note. Vicente is saying nothing. The players are saying nothing, other than things such as what is contained in this article. If the fans are being conned by the club we should know about it. If the club is being conned by Vicente we should know about it. The collective known as th, 'fans,' pay everyone's wages, it is they that pay the Albion's bills, they have a right to be told a difinitive answer.

If it is all about a serious injury, if there is light at the end of the tunnel them tell us. If they guy is simply sitting out the term of his contract for what ever reason then tell us that too.

Vicente is top class we all know that. Brighton are better with him than without him, we know that too. We know all the positive things about Vicente, now we just need to know the answer to the question and that being, will he or won't he play again for us and if so, when?

If you think about it we had more info on Elphik's injury and recovery and Elphik, with all due respect, aint no Vicente.
Some might say that we don't have a, 'right,' to know but I would argue that we do. Stars of the stage and screen, music and sport have a right to privacy with regard to their personal lives but their professional lives are public. I have no interest in his private life I just want to know about his soccor life and if it's a private issue keeping him out, then let the guy go and allow him some peace and quiet.

PLEASE Vegas,FOOTBALL,The great game,The reason for life,but not soccer!!!!...UTA

Oooops, sorry Tug.

There's more chance of me coming home to find Shakira tucked up in my bed tonight wearing nothing but a negligee than us seeing Vicente in an Albion shirt again.

Poplar, were these reserves you saw in bars in Brighton? If not are you a wind up merchant as they were far away from Brighton on their way back from Wolves!

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder if the Argus has any investigative reporters if so, why not set them to work on the Vicente situation.

The club is telling us nothing, or nothing of note. Vicente is saying nothing. The players are saying nothing, other than things such as what is contained in this article. If the fans are being conned by the club we should know about it. If the club is being conned by Vicente we should know about it. The collective known as th, 'fans,' pay everyone's wages, it is they that pay the Albion's bills, they have a right to be told a difinitive answer.

If it is all about a serious injury, if there is light at the end of the tunnel them tell us. If they guy is simply sitting out the term of his contract for what ever reason then tell us that too.

Vicente is top class we all know that. Brighton are better with him than without him, we know that too. We know all the positive things about Vicente, now we just need to know the answer to the question and that being, will he or won't he play again for us and if so, when?

If you think about it we had more info on Elphik's injury and recovery and Elphik, with all due respect, aint no Vicente.
Some might say that we don't have a, 'right,' to know but I would argue that we do. Stars of the stage and screen, music and sport have a right to privacy with regard to their personal lives but their professional lives are public. I have no interest in his private life I just want to know about his soccor life and if it's a private issue keeping him out, then let the guy go and allow him some peace and quiet.

I'm pretty sure there was a comment from Charlie Oatway recently that he expected Vicente back playing about Christmas time. I won't be holding my breath though. More chance of Shakira coming down my chimney on Christmas morning in a skimpy negligee, after she's got bored of Seagull83!

Vegas agree entirely. I do feel that the guy MAY have injury problems---that is why Valencia got fed up with him and it seems ironic that we cannot afford that elusive 'striker' but we are paying--what I assume--is fairly high wages for someone who has only played a few minutes FOOTBALL for us this season. We have a right, as you say, to a full explanation as what is going on. We have had updates on Elphick and Hoskins so why not one of our star players Vicente, by hiding any news it always raises suspicions. Yes it is right, it was said that 'it was hoped' that he would be OK for Christmas--but that is fast approaching and he will have had to play matches in the 'reserves' to get match fitness and then fight for his place in the 'first team'. Hate to say it and I hope I am wrong---but it ain't going to happen!!!

For whatever reason, the club do not wish to provide a definitive update on the Vicente injury saga. That is clearly very disappointing and also puzzling when fans are so keen to see him in action again. However, I am fairly sanguine with the situation because I am confident that Orlandi will fill the void. He needs full games under his belt to build his stamina etc. Look how Will has benefited from successive full games.

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder if the Argus has any investigative reporters if so, why not set them to work on the Vicente situation.

The club is telling us nothing, or nothing of note. Vicente is saying nothing. The players are saying nothing, other than things such as what is contained in this article. If the fans are being conned by the club we should know about it. If the club is being conned by Vicente we should know about it. The collective known as th, 'fans,' pay everyone's wages, it is they that pay the Albion's bills, they have a right to be told a difinitive answer.

If it is all about a serious injury, if there is light at the end of the tunnel them tell us. If they guy is simply sitting out the term of his contract for what ever reason then tell us that too.

Vicente is top class we all know that. Brighton are better with him than without him, we know that too. We know all the positive things about Vicente, now we just need to know the answer to the question and that being, will he or won't he play again for us and if so, when?

If you think about it we had more info on Elphik's injury and recovery and Elphik, with all due respect, aint no Vicente.
Some might say that we don't have a, 'right,' to know but I would argue that we do. Stars of the stage and screen, music and sport have a right to privacy with regard to their personal lives but their professional lives are public. I have no interest in his private life I just want to know about his soccor life and if it's a private issue keeping him out, then let the guy go and allow him some peace and quiet.

The best post in the history of the world.Like i said a few back now i saw him shopping in Sainsburys in west Hove with his wife.They did stop for a chat both very nice people,but his wife said more that he did.All i can say he was walking ok,but he really did not look a happy man,but saying that he did smile when i said how good he was.Lets be honest like Owen if he comes back he will play maybe 2 or 3 games then be out again.

Mikey, I am not so sure that he wil have to, 'fight for his place,' I would imagine if fit he is a shoe in for selection. I think it certain that he would have some reserve playing time, match fitness being the issue, if thta happens we can only play that he doesn't get chopped down by a ill timed tackle that so often happens with younger players.

We were told of his possible return around Christmas time and if that is correct we can only assume that he should be back in training soon, let's hope so.

We have not seen any direct interviews with Vicente, such as those we got with Elphik, do you think that the club has gagged him for some reason, I can't think why they would.

TO THE ARGUS.

Would you please tell us, have you tried to interview Vicente? If no, why not, if yes, then what happened because we have not seen the article? Please respond Andy.

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Freeloaders wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder if the Argus has any investigative reporters if so, why not set them to work on the Vicente situation.

The club is telling us nothing, or nothing of note. Vicente is saying nothing. The players are saying nothing, other than things such as what is contained in this article. If the fans are being conned by the club we should know about it. If the club is being conned by Vicente we should know about it. The collective known as th, 'fans,' pay everyone's wages, it is they that pay the Albion's bills, they have a right to be told a difinitive answer.

If it is all about a serious injury, if there is light at the end of the tunnel them tell us. If they guy is simply sitting out the term of his contract for what ever reason then tell us that too.

Vicente is top class we all know that. Brighton are better with him than without him, we know that too. We know all the positive things about Vicente, now we just need to know the answer to the question and that being, will he or won't he play again for us and if so, when?

If you think about it we had more info on Elphik's injury and recovery and Elphik, with all due respect, aint no Vicente.
Some might say that we don't have a, 'right,' to know but I would argue that we do. Stars of the stage and screen, music and sport have a right to privacy with regard to their personal lives but their professional lives are public. I have no interest in his private life I just want to know about his soccor life and if it's a private issue keeping him out, then let the guy go and allow him some peace and quiet.

The best post in the history of the world.Like i said a few back now i saw him shopping in Sainsburys in west Hove with his wife.They did stop for a chat both very nice people,but his wife said more that he did.All i can say he was walking ok,but he really did not look a happy man,but saying that he did smile when i said how good he was.Lets be honest like Owen if he comes back he will play maybe 2 or 3 games then be out again.

Interesting this isn't the first post which talks about his demeanor. I love this guy as a player. Always got me off my seat - but there has always been a 'moody' dark energy about him.

I never give up on people and whether he goes or stays he always takes Vicente with him. That's what I find frustrating. I sense there is something brewing deep inside this guy and if I had such a gifted person in my employ I think I'd do everything possible to get his MIND right - that's where most problems reside. I wonder if they've tried NLP, EFT, hypnotherapy and all the other modern available skills which have had incredible success in healing all sorts of 'conditions'.

Whatever, I for one wish him every good in his life. He is a true artist.

There is such a sense of entitlement on here! No-one owes us ANYTHING. You pay for your ticket, you watch the game, you come home - that is the transaction over. You have what you paid for and are owed nothing else. You are not 'paying their wages', you are paying a tiny, tiny fraction of one player's hourly rate.


Is it not just possible that the reason there is not a lot of proper news coming out about Vicente is that there is not a lot to say? He has a deep-seated groin injury that is taking a long time to clear up. He is not unique in that aspect, and if he was one of our lesser lights then there would be such a conspiracy theory as to his continued non-appearance.


I also very much doubt that his salary is the cause of our not purchasing a striker (that we may or may not actually need). The likely reason is that there are very few that will make a decent impression that are not already at either one of our rivals or already in the Prem.

The Real Ryfish wrote:
There is such a sense of entitlement on here! No-one owes us ANYTHING. You pay for your ticket, you watch the game, you come home - that is the transaction over. You have what you paid for and are owed nothing else. You are not 'paying their wages', you are paying a tiny, tiny fraction of one player's hourly rate.


Is it not just possible that the reason there is not a lot of proper news coming out about Vicente is that there is not a lot to say? He has a deep-seated groin injury that is taking a long time to clear up. He is not unique in that aspect, and if he was one of our lesser lights then there would be such a conspiracy theory as to his continued non-appearance.


I also very much doubt that his salary is the cause of our not purchasing a striker (that we may or may not actually need). The likely reason is that there are very few that will make a decent impression that are not already at either one of our rivals or already in the Prem.

I think you make several valid points. Also, you have provided more of a clear update on Vicente's injury than the club.

This is all very interesting stuff but who is wearing a shower cap in the back ground? Is it the streamline Cech look?

WisdomSpeaks wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder if the Argus has any investigative reporters if so, why not set them to work on the Vicente situation.

The club is telling us nothing, or nothing of note. Vicente is saying nothing. The players are saying nothing, other than things such as what is contained in this article. If the fans are being conned by the club we should know about it. If the club is being conned by Vicente we should know about it. The collective known as th, 'fans,' pay everyone's wages, it is they that pay the Albion's bills, they have a right to be told a difinitive answer.

If it is all about a serious injury, if there is light at the end of the tunnel them tell us. If they guy is simply sitting out the term of his contract for what ever reason then tell us that too.

Vicente is top class we all know that. Brighton are better with him than without him, we know that too. We know all the positive things about Vicente, now we just need to know the answer to the question and that being, will he or won't he play again for us and if so, when?

If you think about it we had more info on Elphik's injury and recovery and Elphik, with all due respect, aint no Vicente.
Some might say that we don't have a, 'right,' to know but I would argue that we do. Stars of the stage and screen, music and sport have a right to privacy with regard to their personal lives but their professional lives are public. I have no interest in his private life I just want to know about his soccor life and if it's a private issue keeping him out, then let the guy go and allow him some peace and quiet.

The best post in the history of the world.Like i said a few back now i saw him shopping in Sainsburys in west Hove with his wife.They did stop for a chat both very nice people,but his wife said more that he did.All i can say he was walking ok,but he really did not look a happy man,but saying that he did smile when i said how good he was.Lets be honest like Owen if he comes back he will play maybe 2 or 3 games then be out again.

Interesting this isn't the first post which talks about his demeanor. I love this guy as a player. Always got me off my seat - but there has always been a 'moody' dark energy about him.

I never give up on people and whether he goes or stays he always takes Vicente with him. That's what I find frustrating. I sense there is something brewing deep inside this guy and if I had such a gifted person in my employ I think I'd do everything possible to get his MIND right - that's where most problems reside. I wonder if they've tried NLP, EFT, hypnotherapy and all the other modern available skills which have had incredible success in healing all sorts of 'conditions'.

Whatever, I for one wish him every good in his life. He is a true artist.

Good try,

Trying to suggest there is a sense there is something brewing deep inside this guy.

I'd do everything possible to get his MIND right.

I wonder if they've tried NLP, EFT, hypnotherapy and all the other modern available skills which have had incredible success in healing all sorts of 'conditions.

But I wish the guy the best of luck.

The power of suggestion lol

I'd try proper science first to fix Vicente before using pseudo-scientific NLP and EFT.

As supporters we expect to be advised re team and players and are except for Vicente,he had similar problems at his previous club and no doubt this was the reason we were able to sign him.

Falmer Wizard wrote:
As supporters we expect to be advised re team and players and are except for Vicente,he had similar problems at his previous club and no doubt this was the reason we were able to sign him.

You can expect all you like, but that doesn't make it a right.

If he was fully fit then (a) no-one would even bother mentioning Zaha as Vicente would be obviously the best player in the division, but also (b) as you rightly say we wouldn't have been blessed with his sporadic appearances in any case.

Freeloaders wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder if the Argus has any investigative reporters if so, why not set them to work on the Vicente situation.

The club is telling us nothing, or nothing of note. Vicente is saying nothing. The players are saying nothing, other than things such as what is contained in this article. If the fans are being conned by the club we should know about it. If the club is being conned by Vicente we should know about it. The collective known as th, 'fans,' pay everyone's wages, it is they that pay the Albion's bills, they have a right to be told a difinitive answer.

If it is all about a serious injury, if there is light at the end of the tunnel them tell us. If they guy is simply sitting out the term of his contract for what ever reason then tell us that too.

Vicente is top class we all know that. Brighton are better with him than without him, we know that too. We know all the positive things about Vicente, now we just need to know the answer to the question and that being, will he or won't he play again for us and if so, when?

If you think about it we had more info on Elphik's injury and recovery and Elphik, with all due respect, aint no Vicente.
Some might say that we don't have a, 'right,' to know but I would argue that we do. Stars of the stage and screen, music and sport have a right to privacy with regard to their personal lives but their professional lives are public. I have no interest in his private life I just want to know about his soccor life and if it's a private issue keeping him out, then let the guy go and allow him some peace and quiet.

The best post in the history of the world.Like i said a few back now i saw him shopping in Sainsburys in west Hove with his wife.They did stop for a chat both very nice people,but his wife said more that he did.All i can say he was walking ok,but he really did not look a happy man,but saying that he did smile when i said how good he was.Lets be honest like Owen if he comes back he will play maybe 2 or 3 games then be out again.

Was this just after your chat with Craig Noone on the pier?
I would stop stalking the squad before you get to El-Abd if I were you.

The Vicente saga rolls on. I understood that he's expected to be fit around Christmas time. I hope so, but like others, I'm not holding my breath. It's becoming something of a thriller,where different (almost conspiracy) theories abound. We'll have to wait and see and even though I think he's a brilliant player, unlike some I just don't worry about the situation and find it all a bit boring now and surprised that the subject keeps getting brought up by posters and now players, without anything new actually being said.Until some factual statement comes out of the club, why not give it a rest, and even if such news if forthcoming, there is so much near paranoia surrounding this particular player, like I for one have never seen before, then it's unlikely it will be believed anyway.

He'll be back.

Orlandi says he hasn't trained with him yet so can't see him being available for a month at least.

One man doesn't make the team, at least it shouldn’t do. Gus is probably more concerned about blending the new players in and giving them match time.

So it is convenient to let him fully recover, there is no rush on the clubs part, no mental illness and no conspiracy.

If I were the manager, I would only want him fully fit.

Wasn't the Spanish Armada sunk without trace? A bit like Vicente.

What the Argus need to do is conduct a Spanish Inquisition and find out exactly what is wrong with The Dagger.

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition.

We would all like to see him back but we would also like to win the lottery to buy the extra STRIKER that we seem to need or we could cut him loose and spend his wages on the extra STRIKER!!!!

Nothing to add to this really, but was thinking the interview was slightly personal at points. All this talk around wanting to play with Vicente and him being big back in spain. And then comes the frustration.....

The Real Ryfish wrote:
There is such a sense of entitlement on here! No-one owes us ANYTHING. You pay for your ticket, you watch the game, you come home - that is the transaction over. You have what you paid for and are owed nothing else. You are not 'paying their wages', you are paying a tiny, tiny fraction of one player's hourly rate.


Is it not just possible that the reason there is not a lot of proper news coming out about Vicente is that there is not a lot to say? He has a deep-seated groin injury that is taking a long time to clear up. He is not unique in that aspect, and if he was one of our lesser lights then there would be such a conspiracy theory as to his continued non-appearance.


I also very much doubt that his salary is the cause of our not purchasing a striker (that we may or may not actually need). The likely reason is that there are very few that will make a decent impression that are not already at either one of our rivals or already in the Prem.

Ryfish, you write far too much sense to be posting on here.

Vicente will wear an Albion Shirt when fit and able to perform to his own high standards as decreed by Gus in whom we trust.

seagullsays wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder if the Argus has any investigative reporters if so, why not set them to work on the Vicente situation.

The club is telling us nothing, or nothing of note. Vicente is saying nothing. The players are saying nothing, other than things such as what is contained in this article. If the fans are being conned by the club we should know about it. If the club is being conned by Vicente we should know about it. The collective known as th, 'fans,' pay everyone's wages, it is they that pay the Albion's bills, they have a right to be told a difinitive answer.

If it is all about a serious injury, if there is light at the end of the tunnel them tell us. If they guy is simply sitting out the term of his contract for what ever reason then tell us that too.

Vicente is top class we all know that. Brighton are better with him than without him, we know that too. We know all the positive things about Vicente, now we just need to know the answer to the question and that being, will he or won't he play again for us and if so, when?

If you think about it we had more info on Elphik's injury and recovery and Elphik, with all due respect, aint no Vicente.
Some might say that we don't have a, 'right,' to know but I would argue that we do. Stars of the stage and screen, music and sport have a right to privacy with regard to their personal lives but their professional lives are public. I have no interest in his private life I just want to know about his soccor life and if it's a private issue keeping him out, then let the guy go and allow him some peace and quiet.

I'm pretty sure there was a comment from Charlie Oatway recently that he expected Vicente back playing about Christmas time. I won't be holding my breath though. More chance of Shakira coming down my chimney on Christmas morning in a skimpy negligee, after she's got bored of Seagull83!

shakira is about 6m onths pregnant,not much chance of her fitting down anyones chimney.shakira shakira.

get rid of vicente and sign shakira,(after shes dropped the kid),at least shes fit.