Poyet insists second team is an opportunity not a punishment

Will Hoskins scored a penalty in a friendly with Watford yesterday

Will Hoskins scored a penalty in a friendly with Watford yesterday

First published in Albion by , Chief sports reporter

GUS Poyet has told his Albion players not to treat second team matches as a punishment.

Peter Brezovan, Lewis Dunk, Marcos Painter and Inigo Calderon were all involved in last Saturday’s victory at Huddersfield for the depleted Seagulls after featuring in the new development league this season.

Calderon, a second-half substitute in Yorkshire, had another outing in a 1-1 friendly draw at Watford yesterday, alongside several other fringe players.

Poyet told The Argus: “We are open minded about players playing in the under-21s. Some people, like Dunky and Calde and Marcos, treat it naturally. Others see it as a punishment. It’s never a punishment.

“You never know what is going to happen, so play a few games in the second team because maybe you need to jump into a big game. That is the biggest opportunity the players have got here and when there is not a game we try to arrange a friendly. “The idea is to give people who are not playing 90 minutes. You cannot compare training with a game.

“Calde did very well for us at right-back when he jumped in earlier in the season. At 2-0 on Saturday he was thinking he is not going to play and then he has to go on at left-back in the worst part of the game for us, to defend and defend and battle, and he performed.”

Will Hoskins equalised with a second-half penalty against his old club at Watford’s London Colney training ground after Albion fell behind to a first half goal by Standard Liege loanee Geoffrey Mujangi Eia.

The Albion line-up also included Gary Dicker, Ryan Harley, Matt Sparrow, David and Stephen Dobbie.

Development squad keeper Grant Smith was between the posts, rather than risking Brezovan, as Tomasz Kuszczak (finger) and Casper Ankergren (thumb) are not scheduled to resume training until tomorrow.

Brentford and AFC Wimbledon were among the clubs represented by scouts, with both teams containing potential loan signings.

The loan window shuts at 5pm tomorrow. Barnsley have yet to renew their interest in Hoskins and Harley but Albion have received tentative inquiries regarding young strikers George Barker and Toby Agdestein, who were both on the bench at Watford.

Albion have sold out their allocation of 3,300 tickets for the trip to Charlton on December 8. Seats are still available for Bolton’s visit to The Amex on Saturday and next Tuesday’s home game against Bristol City.

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10:03am Wed 21 Nov 12

Dr Baldhead says...

Brez, Calde, Painter, Dunk, Harley, Sparrow, Dicker and Hoskins. All first teamers at some stage last season. Add in David and Dobbie and that's a pretty familar team (well 10 - anyone know who the other CB was?).

I think only Dunky is U21 out of these.
Brez, Calde, Painter, Dunk, Harley, Sparrow, Dicker and Hoskins. All first teamers at some stage last season. Add in David and Dobbie and that's a pretty familar team (well 10 - anyone know who the other CB was?). I think only Dunky is U21 out of these. Dr Baldhead
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12:20pm Wed 21 Nov 12

fairweathersupporter says...

I am of course basing this on the report above. But by implication... Is Hoskins one who sees it as a punishment? It appears from previous engagements that Gus and Hoskins do not see eye to eye on some matters...
I am of course basing this on the report above. But by implication... Is Hoskins one who sees it as a punishment? It appears from previous engagements that Gus and Hoskins do not see eye to eye on some matters... fairweathersupporter
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1:21pm Wed 21 Nov 12

9 of us says...

same old
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same old same old photo 9 of us
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2:56pm Wed 21 Nov 12

ballantrrae says...

Dr Baldhead wrote:
Brez, Calde, Painter, Dunk, Harley, Sparrow, Dicker and Hoskins. All first teamers at some stage last season. Add in David and Dobbie and that's a pretty familar team (well 10 - anyone know who the other CB was?).

I think only Dunky is U21 out of these.
Dr B I don't think this was a DS match just a friendly for 'fringe' first team players for both clubs.
Brez wasn't playing and young Smith was in goal. Apparently Calde was playing CB so the eleventh player would have been a FB. Agdestein and Barker were on the bench.
Looks pretty much like Albion's second team.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Baldhead[/bold] wrote: Brez, Calde, Painter, Dunk, Harley, Sparrow, Dicker and Hoskins. All first teamers at some stage last season. Add in David and Dobbie and that's a pretty familar team (well 10 - anyone know who the other CB was?). I think only Dunky is U21 out of these.[/p][/quote]Dr B I don't think this was a DS match just a friendly for 'fringe' first team players for both clubs. Brez wasn't playing and young Smith was in goal. Apparently Calde was playing CB so the eleventh player would have been a FB. Agdestein and Barker were on the bench. Looks pretty much like Albion's second team. ballantrrae
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3:02pm Wed 21 Nov 12

ballantrrae says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Dr Baldhead wrote:
Brez, Calde, Painter, Dunk, Harley, Sparrow, Dicker and Hoskins. All first teamers at some stage last season. Add in David and Dobbie and that's a pretty familar team (well 10 - anyone know who the other CB was?).

I think only Dunky is U21 out of these.
Dr B I don't think this was a DS match just a friendly for 'fringe' first team players for both clubs.
Brez wasn't playing and young Smith was in goal. Apparently Calde was playing CB so the eleventh player would have been a FB. Agdestein and Barker were on the bench.
Looks pretty much like Albion's second team.
Actually (see club website) Dunk and Painter weren't playing. Apart from Calde the rest of the Back Four were Akubine, McGovern and Sampayo>
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Baldhead[/bold] wrote: Brez, Calde, Painter, Dunk, Harley, Sparrow, Dicker and Hoskins. All first teamers at some stage last season. Add in David and Dobbie and that's a pretty familar team (well 10 - anyone know who the other CB was?). I think only Dunky is U21 out of these.[/p][/quote]Dr B I don't think this was a DS match just a friendly for 'fringe' first team players for both clubs. Brez wasn't playing and young Smith was in goal. Apparently Calde was playing CB so the eleventh player would have been a FB. Agdestein and Barker were on the bench. Looks pretty much like Albion's second team.[/p][/quote]Actually (see club website) Dunk and Painter weren't playing. Apart from Calde the rest of the Back Four were Akubine, McGovern and Sampayo> ballantrrae
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8:44pm Wed 21 Nov 12

WisdomSpeaks says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
I am of course basing this on the report above. But by implication... Is Hoskins one who sees it as a punishment? It appears from previous engagements that Gus and Hoskins do not see eye to eye on some matters...
I am sure you're spot on. It's obvious that Gus is trying to subtly discredit him by that comment. I hope he's able to disregard his personal angst against Hoskins as watching him he really holds the ball up and brings others into the game.

I was pleased to hear Dobbie comment that we have the players to go up this year. Great when the players have that self belief despite Gus holding a different opinion.

From what I've seen of Dobbie he looks a decent player with the guile to open up defenses so I hope he gets a chance to show what he can do.
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: I am of course basing this on the report above. But by implication... Is Hoskins one who sees it as a punishment? It appears from previous engagements that Gus and Hoskins do not see eye to eye on some matters...[/p][/quote]I am sure you're spot on. It's obvious that Gus is trying to subtly discredit him by that comment. I hope he's able to disregard his personal angst against Hoskins as watching him he really holds the ball up and brings others into the game. I was pleased to hear Dobbie comment that we have the players to go up this year. Great when the players have that self belief despite Gus holding a different opinion. From what I've seen of Dobbie he looks a decent player with the guile to open up defenses so I hope he gets a chance to show what he can do. WisdomSpeaks
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6:07am Thu 22 Nov 12

Jonathan Mouette says...

Wisdomspeaks says 'It's obvious that Gus is trying to subtly discredit him by that comment.' There is nothing subtle about it - it is blatant and straight out of the Poyet Man Management Manual. If Will Hoskins needs reassurances that his future is at the Albion and not on loan somewhere else he should be encouraged not publicly slagged off. C'mon Gus, you don't work at the club every day - take some time off from the golf course and fit in one or two psychology lessons...
Wisdomspeaks says 'It's obvious that Gus is trying to subtly discredit him by that comment.' There is nothing subtle about it - it is blatant and straight out of the Poyet Man Management Manual. If Will Hoskins needs reassurances that his future is at the Albion and not on loan somewhere else he should be encouraged not publicly slagged off. C'mon Gus, you don't work at the club every day - take some time off from the golf course and fit in one or two psychology lessons... Jonathan Mouette
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9:45am Thu 22 Nov 12

northstand4 says...

I am not sure if you guys are right with regards to Poyet 'discrediting' Hoskins with his comments above.
I think it is easy to read between the lines on anything quoted in football and not just poyet's.
If i was to agree with your analysis though, i would actually suggest it could be 'spanish Dave' or even Dobbs he was referring too?

Anyway can't wait for Saturday/Tuesday. I would love to see Hoskins, CMS and Bucks up front from the start! UTA!!!!
I am not sure if you guys are right with regards to Poyet 'discrediting' Hoskins with his comments above. I think it is easy to read between the lines on anything quoted in football and not just poyet's. If i was to agree with your analysis though, i would actually suggest it could be 'spanish Dave' or even Dobbs he was referring too? Anyway can't wait for Saturday/Tuesday. I would love to see Hoskins, CMS and Bucks up front from the start! UTA!!!! northstand4
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