Bristol a bridge too far for Wayne

Wayne Bridge, may not be risked against Bristol City

Wayne Bridge, may not be risked against Bristol City

First published in Albion by , Chief sports reporter

Albion are wary of pitching Wayne Bridge back into action against Bristol City at The Amex tomorrow night.


  Centre half Adam El-Abd (hamstring) returns to the squad following a four-match absence but left-back Bridge is unlikely to be risked after missing the last two matches with a calf injury.


  Manager Gus Poyet told The Argus: "Adam El-Abd is going to be in the squad, 100 per cent. Wayne? I'm not sure. It's a strange situation, because now we have got a big issue with the pitches where we train.


  "We are coming into the proper winter weather and the conditions are very, very difficult, very wet and heavy.


  "Then The Amex pitch is totally different, really harder compared to the training ground. The medical staff are always looking at that and it causes problems, especially for the players that have got injuries, so it's not an easy situation with Bridgey. We need to be very, very smart."

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3:03pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

Ye tug509 the body might have gone a bit the brain is still hanging in there?some off these freeloaders on the payroll now would not be worthy of laceing his boots
Ye tug509 the body might have gone a bit the brain is still hanging in there?some off these freeloaders on the payroll now would not be worthy of laceing his boots campotolox
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3:28pm Mon 26 Nov 12

VegasSeagull says...

Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has.
In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has.

Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested.

Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.
Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has. In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has. Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested. Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one. VegasSeagull
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3:40pm Mon 26 Nov 12

ballantrrae says...

Looks as if Poyet will do the smart thing and give Bridge a few more days to recover so that (hopefully) he is available for the Palace match.
Reverting back to the various reports and comments about Saturday's Bolton game, it is clear that we are just one player away from having a team that will start winning regulary rather than drawing.
Poyet and the club know they need to strengthen the strike force and will one trusts do so in the January window.
Since proven Premiership and Championship strikers are so expensive it might make sense for the club to look to Europe or the lower Divisions where better value for money can be found. I know this can be a risk but a player costing around the £1million to £1.2million might be less risky than an expensive failure at 2 to 3 times that figure.
I think January can be a good time to recruit as it gives any new player plenty of time to settle in to our playing style before next season. Poyet is always saying that players need time to adapt when they join the Albion.
I also hope the club use the January window to sign both another CB and a potential replacement for Bridge (1 year loan) and/or Painter whose contract expires I believe in the Summer.
Looks as if Poyet will do the smart thing and give Bridge a few more days to recover so that (hopefully) he is available for the Palace match. Reverting back to the various reports and comments about Saturday's Bolton game, it is clear that we are just one player away from having a team that will start winning regulary rather than drawing. Poyet and the club know they need to strengthen the strike force and will one trusts do so in the January window. Since proven Premiership and Championship strikers are so expensive it might make sense for the club to look to Europe or the lower Divisions where better value for money can be found. I know this can be a risk but a player costing around the £1million to £1.2million might be less risky than an expensive failure at 2 to 3 times that figure. I think January can be a good time to recruit as it gives any new player plenty of time to settle in to our playing style before next season. Poyet is always saying that players need time to adapt when they join the Albion. I also hope the club use the January window to sign both another CB and a potential replacement for Bridge (1 year loan) and/or Painter whose contract expires I believe in the Summer. ballantrrae
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3:58pm Mon 26 Nov 12

graham w says...

i thought man of match on sat should have been orlandi, i thought he was exactly what we had been missing and was unlucky not to have scored at least 2 goals, paints did well but still lacks speed but he was strong, bruno although he mom, he was partly to blame for that late goal by letting his man get away from him , but saying that we should have been out of sight with at least 5 goals, we were so attacking it was a joy, be glad to see adam back tho, and bridgy back sat,i still think dobbie should have come on as sub to take pen...
i thought man of match on sat should have been orlandi, i thought he was exactly what we had been missing and was unlucky not to have scored at least 2 goals, paints did well but still lacks speed but he was strong, bruno although he mom, he was partly to blame for that late goal by letting his man get away from him , but saying that we should have been out of sight with at least 5 goals, we were so attacking it was a joy, be glad to see adam back tho, and bridgy back sat,i still think dobbie should have come on as sub to take pen... graham w
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3:58pm Mon 26 Nov 12

graham w says...

i thought man of match on sat should have been orlandi, i thought he was exactly what we had been missing and was unlucky not to have scored at least 2 goals, paints did well but still lacks speed but he was strong, bruno although he mom, he was partly to blame for that late goal by letting his man get away from him , but saying that we should have been out of sight with at least 5 goals, we were so attacking it was a joy, be glad to see adam back tho, and bridgy back sat,i still think dobbie should have come on as sub to take pen...
i thought man of match on sat should have been orlandi, i thought he was exactly what we had been missing and was unlucky not to have scored at least 2 goals, paints did well but still lacks speed but he was strong, bruno although he mom, he was partly to blame for that late goal by letting his man get away from him , but saying that we should have been out of sight with at least 5 goals, we were so attacking it was a joy, be glad to see adam back tho, and bridgy back sat,i still think dobbie should have come on as sub to take pen... graham w
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4:46pm Mon 26 Nov 12

brightonup says...

Come on Albion! 3 points tomorrow will put us firmly back in the chase!
Come on Albion! 3 points tomorrow will put us firmly back in the chase! brightonup
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4:47pm Mon 26 Nov 12

brightonup says...

Come on Albion! 3 points tomorrow will put us firmly back in the chase!
Come on Albion! 3 points tomorrow will put us firmly back in the chase! brightonup
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4:48pm Mon 26 Nov 12

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has.
In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has.

Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested.

Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.
Vegas Seagull I think that Hoskins can cover CMS whom he has replaced in both the last two games.
The problem earlier when CMS was out was the fact that Hosko was injured as well. That is not the case now.
Actually I would like to see both CMS and Hosko playing and starting together. I haven't seen them on the pitch at the same time and one of the few times they were was I believe last year away to Cardiff.
I recall Poyet saying sometime ago that one of the things that Hosko could do was 'come in from the left' which is where Barnes quite often operates. So if as per your suggestion that Barnes is put on the bench, then Hosko could start in his place. Incidently Hoskins can take penalties as well, he scored one in the 'reserve friendly' against Watford last week.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has. In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has. Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested. Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.[/p][/quote]Vegas Seagull I think that Hoskins can cover CMS whom he has replaced in both the last two games. The problem earlier when CMS was out was the fact that Hosko was injured as well. That is not the case now. Actually I would like to see both CMS and Hosko playing and starting together. I haven't seen them on the pitch at the same time and one of the few times they were was I believe last year away to Cardiff. I recall Poyet saying sometime ago that one of the things that Hosko could do was 'come in from the left' which is where Barnes quite often operates. So if as per your suggestion that Barnes is put on the bench, then Hosko could start in his place. Incidently Hoskins can take penalties as well, he scored one in the 'reserve friendly' against Watford last week. ballantrrae
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5:22pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

Oh my god,Hoskins scored one in a friendly,Oh my god Vegas what are you on?
Oh my god,Hoskins scored one in a friendly,Oh my god Vegas what are you on? campotolox
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5:53pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Baldseagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has.
In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has.

Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested.

Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.
Love your way of giving your opinion as if it were fact.
If Painter plays the game of his life, Bridge will still have the left back slot when fully fit.
I don't see what opportunity Painter has grabbed other than to maintain his status as second choice for left back, but well done to him for those performances which were far better than I was expecting.
And I wouldn't be so sure that Barnes won't be starting tomorrow either.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has. In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has. Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested. Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.[/p][/quote]Love your way of giving your opinion as if it were fact. If Painter plays the game of his life, Bridge will still have the left back slot when fully fit. I don't see what opportunity Painter has grabbed other than to maintain his status as second choice for left back, but well done to him for those performances which were far better than I was expecting. And I wouldn't be so sure that Barnes won't be starting tomorrow either. Baldseagull
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5:54pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

Poyet says i lieve the spot kick upto them,what is he there for,thought that was the manegers job, what is he there for?clean their boots?every time he opens his mouth he makes a pratt of himself,best to go back to a third world country!!
Poyet says i lieve the spot kick upto them,what is he there for,thought that was the manegers job, what is he there for?clean their boots?every time he opens his mouth he makes a pratt of himself,best to go back to a third world country!! campotolox
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6:11pm Mon 26 Nov 12

fairweathersupporter says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has.
In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has.

Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested.

Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.
Vegas Seagull I think that Hoskins can cover CMS whom he has replaced in both the last two games.
The problem earlier when CMS was out was the fact that Hosko was injured as well. That is not the case now.
Actually I would like to see both CMS and Hosko playing and starting together. I haven't seen them on the pitch at the same time and one of the few times they were was I believe last year away to Cardiff.
I recall Poyet saying sometime ago that one of the things that Hosko could do was 'come in from the left' which is where Barnes quite often operates. So if as per your suggestion that Barnes is put on the bench, then Hosko could start in his place. Incidently Hoskins can take penalties as well, he scored one in the 'reserve friendly' against Watford last week.
I'd be interested to see Hoskins on the left but i still think he's more suited (from the little we've seen and previous clubs) in the central role in our formation. There has to be a degree of tracking back (a la Barnes) and i think that's probably why Dobbie is not played as a Barnes alternative. Barnes or Spanish Dave (please) tomorrow me thinks.
Regarding the centre back, i'm not sure if this is still on the cards. Whilst Elphick was cover, we still have three quality CB's with Caldi as cover. I can't remember where Dunk's court case is at but short of him being unavailable, the defence is pretty much sorted. This is of course a retrospective view having now seen the various components in action.., (Calde has looked a bit dodgy though...)
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has. In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has. Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested. Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.[/p][/quote]Vegas Seagull I think that Hoskins can cover CMS whom he has replaced in both the last two games. The problem earlier when CMS was out was the fact that Hosko was injured as well. That is not the case now. Actually I would like to see both CMS and Hosko playing and starting together. I haven't seen them on the pitch at the same time and one of the few times they were was I believe last year away to Cardiff. I recall Poyet saying sometime ago that one of the things that Hosko could do was 'come in from the left' which is where Barnes quite often operates. So if as per your suggestion that Barnes is put on the bench, then Hosko could start in his place. Incidently Hoskins can take penalties as well, he scored one in the 'reserve friendly' against Watford last week.[/p][/quote]I'd be interested to see Hoskins on the left but i still think he's more suited (from the little we've seen and previous clubs) in the central role in our formation. There has to be a degree of tracking back (a la Barnes) and i think that's probably why Dobbie is not played as a Barnes alternative. Barnes or Spanish Dave (please) tomorrow me thinks. Regarding the centre back, i'm not sure if this is still on the cards. Whilst Elphick was cover, we still have three quality CB's with Caldi as cover. I can't remember where Dunk's court case is at but short of him being unavailable, the defence is pretty much sorted. This is of course a retrospective view having now seen the various components in action.., (Calde has looked a bit dodgy though...) fairweathersupporter
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6:12pm Mon 26 Nov 12

ShorehamBeachcomber says...

Play the stiffs & save everyone for Saturday
Play the stiffs & save everyone for Saturday ShorehamBeachcomber
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6:20pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Alfie T says...

Painter tomorrow, Wayne fit and raring to go at Palarse, 6 points, lovely.
Painter tomorrow, Wayne fit and raring to go at Palarse, 6 points, lovely. Alfie T
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6:24pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has.
In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has.

Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested.

Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.
Vegas Seagull I think that Hoskins can cover CMS whom he has replaced in both the last two games.
The problem earlier when CMS was out was the fact that Hosko was injured as well. That is not the case now.
Actually I would like to see both CMS and Hosko playing and starting together. I haven't seen them on the pitch at the same time and one of the few times they were was I believe last year away to Cardiff.
I recall Poyet saying sometime ago that one of the things that Hosko could do was 'come in from the left' which is where Barnes quite often operates. So if as per your suggestion that Barnes is put on the bench, then Hosko could start in his place. Incidently Hoskins can take penalties as well, he scored one in the 'reserve friendly' against Watford last week.
Totally agree Vegas,Ballantrrae.
I hope we dont risk Bridge tomorrow,he is FAR too good a player to be missing on Saturday.
I think Marcos Painter has been as good and more for a replacement for WB,big shoes to fill,and he has done us proud.
Vegas,if we play Bucks on the left,it takes a lot of pressure of MP,i said that before the Bolton game.

Ballantrrae,when Hoskins scored at Cardiff last year,he scored coming from the right wing position,im lost help,WBucks often plays off the left,Barnes off the right?.

It doesn`t really matter,Hoskins should be on the pitch with Craig,as you eluded. Rightly or wrongly i suggested a roving role for Hoskins. If he has the brain people claim,he will eat it up.
.UTA..PAS
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has. In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has. Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested. Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.[/p][/quote]Vegas Seagull I think that Hoskins can cover CMS whom he has replaced in both the last two games. The problem earlier when CMS was out was the fact that Hosko was injured as well. That is not the case now. Actually I would like to see both CMS and Hosko playing and starting together. I haven't seen them on the pitch at the same time and one of the few times they were was I believe last year away to Cardiff. I recall Poyet saying sometime ago that one of the things that Hosko could do was 'come in from the left' which is where Barnes quite often operates. So if as per your suggestion that Barnes is put on the bench, then Hosko could start in his place. Incidently Hoskins can take penalties as well, he scored one in the 'reserve friendly' against Watford last week.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Vegas,Ballantrrae. I hope we dont risk Bridge tomorrow,he is FAR too good a player to be missing on Saturday. I think Marcos Painter has been as good and more for a replacement for WB,big shoes to fill,and he has done us proud. Vegas,if we play Bucks on the left,it takes a lot of pressure of MP,i said that before the Bolton game. Ballantrrae,when Hoskins scored at Cardiff last year,he scored coming from the right wing position,im lost help,WBucks often plays off the left,Barnes off the right?. It doesn`t really matter,Hoskins should be on the pitch with Craig,as you eluded. Rightly or wrongly i suggested a roving role for Hoskins. If he has the brain people claim,he will eat it up. .UTA..PAS tug509
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6:27pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

Your team BHA are taking money out of you the supporters, you have got about 6 players that are not pleying for the team ,just there for the holiday camp,sticks out a mile,been a supporter for 60 old years,yes old bugger now but rather have it in those days than now,you had players then that would play for the club because they where loyale,i know the game has changed and its all about money but that does not make it right,say it again no one said anything about Dave Sexton that died a couple of days ago,,just heard,gave his all for BHA,thats a commited player to BHA,not these wasters are playing for BHA now!!
Your team BHA are taking money out of you the supporters, you have got about 6 players that are not pleying for the team ,just there for the holiday camp,sticks out a mile,been a supporter for 60 old years,yes old bugger now but rather have it in those days than now,you had players then that would play for the club because they where loyale,i know the game has changed and its all about money but that does not make it right,say it again no one said anything about Dave Sexton that died a couple of days ago,,just heard,gave his all for BHA,thats a commited player to BHA,not these wasters are playing for BHA now!! campotolox
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6:42pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

campotolox wrote:
Your team BHA are taking money out of you the supporters, you have got about 6 players that are not pleying for the team ,just there for the holiday camp,sticks out a mile,been a supporter for 60 old years,yes old bugger now but rather have it in those days than now,you had players then that would play for the club because they where loyale,i know the game has changed and its all about money but that does not make it right,say it again no one said anything about Dave Sexton that died a couple of days ago,,just heard,gave his all for BHA,thats a commited player to BHA,not these wasters are playing for BHA now!!
Your so out of touch Campo,living in Spain. Thats twice you have suggested a lack of respect to Dave Sexton,you are wrong. The right people at the right time will show the correct respect that this great man deserves. Not a bunch of people paying plastic respect,because they neither knew him or watched him play,but were told he was good.

I heard he was very good,he`s stats for us alone are remarkable. But let those who know make their respects on our behalf.
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: Your team BHA are taking money out of you the supporters, you have got about 6 players that are not pleying for the team ,just there for the holiday camp,sticks out a mile,been a supporter for 60 old years,yes old bugger now but rather have it in those days than now,you had players then that would play for the club because they where loyale,i know the game has changed and its all about money but that does not make it right,say it again no one said anything about Dave Sexton that died a couple of days ago,,just heard,gave his all for BHA,thats a commited player to BHA,not these wasters are playing for BHA now!![/p][/quote]Your so out of touch Campo,living in Spain. Thats twice you have suggested a lack of respect to Dave Sexton,you are wrong. The right people at the right time will show the correct respect that this great man deserves. Not a bunch of people paying plastic respect,because they neither knew him or watched him play,but were told he was good. I heard he was very good,he`s stats for us alone are remarkable. But let those who know make their respects on our behalf. tug509
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6:49pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tonytowner1 says...

For sure Orlandi for MoM on Saturday - Wayne would have been excellent v Bolton with all that space to raid on the left in the 2nd half - still, Marcos did perfectly well. Our players on average tend to be out 3 x as long as expected (e.g. El Abd currently who would surely have made the difference on Saturday and in 3 of the 4 last matches - just that grittiness and passion and presence and hassling is great to have within the team) - so am sure Bridge will be a little longer, especially as he needs to be assisting his girlfriend currently. As with Lua Lua his focus may be a little elsewhere currently? For sure we should and will make it the full 3 points tomorrow night then we'll be on a 7 from 9 run!!
For sure Orlandi for MoM on Saturday - Wayne would have been excellent v Bolton with all that space to raid on the left in the 2nd half - still, Marcos did perfectly well. Our players on average tend to be out 3 x as long as expected (e.g. El Abd currently who would surely have made the difference on Saturday and in 3 of the 4 last matches - just that grittiness and passion and presence and hassling is great to have within the team) - so am sure Bridge will be a little longer, especially as he needs to be assisting his girlfriend currently. As with Lua Lua his focus may be a little elsewhere currently? For sure we should and will make it the full 3 points tomorrow night then we'll be on a 7 from 9 run!! tonytowner1
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6:55pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Vince says...

campotolox wrote:
Your team BHA are taking money out of you the supporters, you have got about 6 players that are not pleying for the team ,just there for the holiday camp,sticks out a mile,been a supporter for 60 old years,yes old bugger now but rather have it in those days than now,you had players then that would play for the club because they where loyale,i know the game has changed and its all about money but that does not make it right,say it again no one said anything about Dave Sexton that died a couple of days ago,,just heard,gave his all for BHA,thats a commited player to BHA,not these wasters are playing for BHA now!!
You haven't acquired much knowlege in 60 years mate, if you still spell playing as pleying, and you think 6 of our team are not "pleying" for the team! Not many out of 26,000 supporters would agree with that last comment! As for the "Holiday Camp" reference, I think you need to take a long Holiday Campo!
I agree that Dave Sexton was a good player, I saw him play for the Albion many times. However, football then wasn't played at half the pace and tempo that it is today. IMHO the Championship is a far more difficult league than the old Division 2 of those days. The only thing I agree with you about, is the obscene amounts of money paid to players these days, but that comment is largely based on premiership wages, as I still think players in the lower divisions deserve what they earn.
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: Your team BHA are taking money out of you the supporters, you have got about 6 players that are not pleying for the team ,just there for the holiday camp,sticks out a mile,been a supporter for 60 old years,yes old bugger now but rather have it in those days than now,you had players then that would play for the club because they where loyale,i know the game has changed and its all about money but that does not make it right,say it again no one said anything about Dave Sexton that died a couple of days ago,,just heard,gave his all for BHA,thats a commited player to BHA,not these wasters are playing for BHA now!![/p][/quote]You haven't acquired much knowlege in 60 years mate, if you still spell playing as pleying, and you think 6 of our team are not "pleying" for the team! Not many out of 26,000 supporters would agree with that last comment! As for the "Holiday Camp" reference, I think you need to take a long Holiday Campo! I agree that Dave Sexton was a good player, I saw him play for the Albion many times. However, football then wasn't played at half the pace and tempo that it is today. IMHO the Championship is a far more difficult league than the old Division 2 of those days. The only thing I agree with you about, is the obscene amounts of money paid to players these days, but that comment is largely based on premiership wages, as I still think players in the lower divisions deserve what they earn. Vince
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7:18pm Mon 26 Nov 12

wiseman of hove says...

Very pleased that Adam El-Abd is in the squad - for me hopefully in the starting eleven alongside Greer.
Turning to Dave Sexton, I saw him play a few games in 1958. My memory tells me that Adrian Thorne 'succeeded' him and I think around that time Dave Sexton went abroad for a spell, possibly Scandinavia, not to play but to observe continental coaching methods - deemed to be a bit pioneering in those days. Great to have had an Albion player go on to such a distinguished coaching and managerial career.
Very pleased that Adam El-Abd is in the squad - for me hopefully in the starting eleven alongside Greer. Turning to Dave Sexton, I saw him play a few games in 1958. My memory tells me that Adrian Thorne 'succeeded' him and I think around that time Dave Sexton went abroad for a spell, possibly Scandinavia, not to play but to observe continental coaching methods - deemed to be a bit pioneering in those days. Great to have had an Albion player go on to such a distinguished coaching and managerial career. wiseman of hove
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7:26pm Mon 26 Nov 12

The Phantom says...

Was hoping Bridge would return tomorrow as Adomah is a real threat down the right for Bristol City. If Barnes is left out, have a feeling that Hoskins or Buckley will start from the left. Expect one or two other changes to keep the team fresh for Saturday. Regarding the very sad news about Dave Sexton, never saw him play but truly a great football man and was one of the key managers when I was growing up. Hope we do a minutes silence tomorrow night if it can be fitted in to the corporate overload.
Was hoping Bridge would return tomorrow as Adomah is a real threat down the right for Bristol City. If Barnes is left out, have a feeling that Hoskins or Buckley will start from the left. Expect one or two other changes to keep the team fresh for Saturday. Regarding the very sad news about Dave Sexton, never saw him play but truly a great football man and was one of the key managers when I was growing up. Hope we do a minutes silence tomorrow night if it can be fitted in to the corporate overload. The Phantom
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7:27pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Bucket feet Duffy says...

campotolox wrote:
Poyet says i lieve the spot kick upto them,what is he there for,thought that was the manegers job, what is he there for?clean their boots?every time he opens his mouth he makes a pratt of himself,best to go back to a third world country!!
This is rubbish Trolling no one is biting He he come you can do better than this surely !
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: Poyet says i lieve the spot kick upto them,what is he there for,thought that was the manegers job, what is he there for?clean their boots?every time he opens his mouth he makes a pratt of himself,best to go back to a third world country!![/p][/quote]This is rubbish Trolling no one is biting He he come you can do better than this surely ! Bucket feet Duffy
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7:42pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
campotolox wrote:
Poyet says i lieve the spot kick upto them,what is he there for,thought that was the manegers job, what is he there for?clean their boots?every time he opens his mouth he makes a pratt of himself,best to go back to a third world country!!
This is rubbish Trolling no one is biting He he come you can do better than this surely !
Without sounding too patronizing i dont think he is trolling at all,just old,sad and missing home.
[quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: Poyet says i lieve the spot kick upto them,what is he there for,thought that was the manegers job, what is he there for?clean their boots?every time he opens his mouth he makes a pratt of himself,best to go back to a third world country!![/p][/quote]This is rubbish Trolling no one is biting He he come you can do better than this surely ![/p][/quote]Without sounding too patronizing i dont think he is trolling at all,just old,sad and missing home. tug509
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8:15pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

TUG AS MEAT LOAF SAID I OUT OF 3 IS NOT BAD,PS SORRY ABOUT THESPELLING WENT TO THE KNOLL,NO MORE SIAD!!
TUG AS MEAT LOAF SAID I OUT OF 3 IS NOT BAD,PS SORRY ABOUT THESPELLING WENT TO THE KNOLL,NO MORE SIAD!! campotolox
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8:21pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

campotolox wrote:
TUG AS MEAT LOAF SAID I OUT OF 3 IS NOT BAD,PS SORRY ABOUT THESPELLING WENT TO THE KNOLL,NO MORE SIAD!!
I went to the Knoll!!!!!!!!!!!!.
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: TUG AS MEAT LOAF SAID I OUT OF 3 IS NOT BAD,PS SORRY ABOUT THESPELLING WENT TO THE KNOLL,NO MORE SIAD!![/p][/quote]I went to the Knoll!!!!!!!!!!!!. tug509
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8:24pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
campotolox wrote:
TUG AS MEAT LOAF SAID I OUT OF 3 IS NOT BAD,PS SORRY ABOUT THESPELLING WENT TO THE KNOLL,NO MORE SIAD!!
I went to the Knoll!!!!!!!!!!!!.
And Meatloaf sang 2 out of 3 aint bad,are you sure you didn`t go to the Neville?.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: TUG AS MEAT LOAF SAID I OUT OF 3 IS NOT BAD,PS SORRY ABOUT THESPELLING WENT TO THE KNOLL,NO MORE SIAD!![/p][/quote]I went to the Knoll!!!!!!!!!!!!.[/p][/quote]And Meatloaf sang 2 out of 3 aint bad,are you sure you didn`t go to the Neville?. tug509
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8:33pm Mon 26 Nov 12

fratsomrover says...

On Saturday's form, Marcus Painter will be fine for tomorrow. I expect they are keeping Wayne under wraps so he'll be 100% to face Zaha on Saturday.
It'll be a good test for both of them and I for one, are looking forward to it. Should be an interesting battle
On Saturday's form, Marcus Painter will be fine for tomorrow. I expect they are keeping Wayne under wraps so he'll be 100% to face Zaha on Saturday. It'll be a good test for both of them and I for one, are looking forward to it. Should be an interesting battle fratsomrover
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8:39pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

Yes i know its a different game now,they dive now and the next minute they are up with the magic sponge,try to explain that to a rugby player,over paid night club thugs,thats what they are,ps.sorry about the spelling,adios raining Spain!!
Yes i know its a different game now,they dive now and the next minute they are up with the magic sponge,try to explain that to a rugby player,over paid night club thugs,thats what they are,ps.sorry about the spelling,adios raining Spain!! campotolox
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8:42pm Mon 26 Nov 12

fratsomrover says...

The Phantom wrote:
Was hoping Bridge would return tomorrow as Adomah is a real threat down the right for Bristol City. If Barnes is left out, have a feeling that Hoskins or Buckley will start from the left. Expect one or two other changes to keep the team fresh for Saturday. Regarding the very sad news about Dave Sexton, never saw him play but truly a great football man and was one of the key managers when I was growing up. Hope we do a minutes silence tomorrow night if it can be fitted in to the corporate overload.
Dave Sexton was lovely guy. I had the pleasure of playing against him in the early 70's. He played centre half alongside George Petchey with George Cohen and Mel Hopkins as his fullbacks. I was the young centre forward trying to make an impression. Though marking me,he spent much of the game trying to help me by telling me how to curve my runs to maximise my speed. As I was living in Chelsea at the time, I also used to watch him coaching Osgood, Hutchinson and Garland at Stamford bridge. A real gent and a coach through and through. Would be nice to have a minutes silence for him. RIP
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Was hoping Bridge would return tomorrow as Adomah is a real threat down the right for Bristol City. If Barnes is left out, have a feeling that Hoskins or Buckley will start from the left. Expect one or two other changes to keep the team fresh for Saturday. Regarding the very sad news about Dave Sexton, never saw him play but truly a great football man and was one of the key managers when I was growing up. Hope we do a minutes silence tomorrow night if it can be fitted in to the corporate overload.[/p][/quote]Dave Sexton was lovely guy. I had the pleasure of playing against him in the early 70's. He played centre half alongside George Petchey with George Cohen and Mel Hopkins as his fullbacks. I was the young centre forward trying to make an impression. Though marking me,he spent much of the game trying to help me by telling me how to curve my runs to maximise my speed. As I was living in Chelsea at the time, I also used to watch him coaching Osgood, Hutchinson and Garland at Stamford bridge. A real gent and a coach through and through. Would be nice to have a minutes silence for him. RIP fratsomrover
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8:51pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

Thanks for that Phantom just think he deservers some respect,when all this chat about who does this and that i think he deserves lots of respect,adois,
Thanks for that Phantom just think he deservers some respect,when all this chat about who does this and that i think he deserves lots of respect,adois, campotolox
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9:09pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

are we gong to talk about Lua or lu or what ever his name is in 40years time,dont think so,thepoint i am trying to make is just because you might have a winning team does not make it right,here today gone tommorow,no depth,thats how i see it, or is it sea,someone will pick me up on my spelling, coudnt care a fxxx
are we gong to talk about Lua or lu or what ever his name is in 40years time,dont think so,thepoint i am trying to make is just because you might have a winning team does not make it right,here today gone tommorow,no depth,thats how i see it, or is it sea,someone will pick me up on my spelling, coudnt care a fxxx campotolox
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9:14pm Mon 26 Nov 12

brightonup says...

campotolox wrote:
Your team BHA are taking money out of you the supporters, you have got about 6 players that are not pleying for the team ,just there for the holiday camp,sticks out a mile,been a supporter for 60 old years,yes old bugger now but rather have it in those days than now,you had players then that would play for the club because they where loyale,i know the game has changed and its all about money but that does not make it right,say it again no one said anything about Dave Sexton that died a couple of days ago,,just heard,gave his all for BHA,thats a commited player to BHA,not these wasters are playing for BHA now!!
?
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: Your team BHA are taking money out of you the supporters, you have got about 6 players that are not pleying for the team ,just there for the holiday camp,sticks out a mile,been a supporter for 60 old years,yes old bugger now but rather have it in those days than now,you had players then that would play for the club because they where loyale,i know the game has changed and its all about money but that does not make it right,say it again no one said anything about Dave Sexton that died a couple of days ago,,just heard,gave his all for BHA,thats a commited player to BHA,not these wasters are playing for BHA now!![/p][/quote]? brightonup
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9:14pm Mon 26 Nov 12

hannover seagull says...

Bridge back for Palace

Most important game in years

UTA.................
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Bridge back for Palace Most important game in years UTA................. .... hannover seagull
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9:19pm Mon 26 Nov 12

brightonup says...

campotolox wrote:
are we gong to talk about Lua or lu or what ever his name is in 40years time,dont think so,thepoint i am trying to make is just because you might have a winning team does not make it right,here today gone tommorow,no depth,thats how i see it, or is it sea,someone will pick me up on my spelling, coudnt care a fxxx
Spelling, punctuation and logic are matters of personal standards. If you are happy with your standards, then no one can improve you.

Just stay the way you are - and don't make judgements on others. Simple!
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: are we gong to talk about Lua or lu or what ever his name is in 40years time,dont think so,thepoint i am trying to make is just because you might have a winning team does not make it right,here today gone tommorow,no depth,thats how i see it, or is it sea,someone will pick me up on my spelling, coudnt care a fxxx[/p][/quote]Spelling, punctuation and logic are matters of personal standards. If you are happy with your standards, then no one can improve you. Just stay the way you are - and don't make judgements on others. Simple! brightonup
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9:20pm Mon 26 Nov 12

VegasSeagull says...

Baldseagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has. In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has. Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested. Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.
Love your way of giving your opinion as if it were fact. If Painter plays the game of his life, Bridge will still have the left back slot when fully fit. I don't see what opportunity Painter has grabbed other than to maintain his status as second choice for left back, but well done to him for those performances which were far better than I was expecting. And I wouldn't be so sure that Barnes won't be starting tomorrow either.
Gus has said that Barnes will not take our next penalty, if we get one that is. Gus named two players that, if one of which is on the park will take our next penalty, should we get one.
What Gus didn't say was who would take the penalty kick if neither are on the park therefore to my mind it is clear that one of them will be starting, ergo Barnes won't be.

It's true that I might be reading the statement from Gus in the wrong way but it's how I interpret his words.

The point I was making about Painter is that, yes Bridge will replace him as soon as he is fit but at least he has shown that he can fill some pretty big boots. Those that replaced CMS didn't. Gus will be very pleased with Painter's contribution, nothing was lost by not having Bridge playing, nothing that costs us that is. When CMS was out we missed his finishing and that did cost us.

, . ,
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has. In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has. Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested. Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.[/p][/quote]Love your way of giving your opinion as if it were fact. If Painter plays the game of his life, Bridge will still have the left back slot when fully fit. I don't see what opportunity Painter has grabbed other than to maintain his status as second choice for left back, but well done to him for those performances which were far better than I was expecting. And I wouldn't be so sure that Barnes won't be starting tomorrow either.[/p][/quote]Gus has said that Barnes will not take our next penalty, if we get one that is. Gus named two players that, if one of which is on the park will take our next penalty, should we get one. What Gus didn't say was who would take the penalty kick if neither are on the park therefore to my mind it is clear that one of them will be starting, ergo Barnes won't be. It's true that I might be reading the statement from Gus in the wrong way but it's how I interpret his words. The point I was making about Painter is that, yes Bridge will replace him as soon as he is fit but at least he has shown that he can fill some pretty big boots. Those that replaced CMS didn't. Gus will be very pleased with Painter's contribution, nothing was lost by not having Bridge playing, nothing that costs us that is. When CMS was out we missed his finishing and that did cost us. , . , VegasSeagull
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9:46pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

fratsomrover wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
Was hoping Bridge would return tomorrow as Adomah is a real threat down the right for Bristol City. If Barnes is left out, have a feeling that Hoskins or Buckley will start from the left. Expect one or two other changes to keep the team fresh for Saturday. Regarding the very sad news about Dave Sexton, never saw him play but truly a great football man and was one of the key managers when I was growing up. Hope we do a minutes silence tomorrow night if it can be fitted in to the corporate overload.
Dave Sexton was lovely guy. I had the pleasure of playing against him in the early 70's. He played centre half alongside George Petchey with George Cohen and Mel Hopkins as his fullbacks. I was the young centre forward trying to make an impression. Though marking me,he spent much of the game trying to help me by telling me how to curve my runs to maximise my speed. As I was living in Chelsea at the time, I also used to watch him coaching Osgood, Hutchinson and Garland at Stamford bridge. A real gent and a coach through and through. Would be nice to have a minutes silence for him. RIP
I`m truly sorry for your personal loss.
You better than most would have appreciated his attributes as a fellow professional,and maybe shared a beer or two.
While i wasn`t lucky enough to see him play,i did appreciate his rivalry as Chelsea boss against Don Revie,and of course taking the cup in 70. its daft but i can still name both teams in full,guess it`s just one of those things that stay with you...UTA
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Was hoping Bridge would return tomorrow as Adomah is a real threat down the right for Bristol City. If Barnes is left out, have a feeling that Hoskins or Buckley will start from the left. Expect one or two other changes to keep the team fresh for Saturday. Regarding the very sad news about Dave Sexton, never saw him play but truly a great football man and was one of the key managers when I was growing up. Hope we do a minutes silence tomorrow night if it can be fitted in to the corporate overload.[/p][/quote]Dave Sexton was lovely guy. I had the pleasure of playing against him in the early 70's. He played centre half alongside George Petchey with George Cohen and Mel Hopkins as his fullbacks. I was the young centre forward trying to make an impression. Though marking me,he spent much of the game trying to help me by telling me how to curve my runs to maximise my speed. As I was living in Chelsea at the time, I also used to watch him coaching Osgood, Hutchinson and Garland at Stamford bridge. A real gent and a coach through and through. Would be nice to have a minutes silence for him. RIP[/p][/quote]I`m truly sorry for your personal loss. You better than most would have appreciated his attributes as a fellow professional,and maybe shared a beer or two. While i wasn`t lucky enough to see him play,i did appreciate his rivalry as Chelsea boss against Don Revie,and of course taking the cup in 70. its daft but i can still name both teams in full,guess it`s just one of those things that stay with you...UTA tug509
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10:15pm Mon 26 Nov 12

brightonup says...

tug509 wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
The Phantom wrote:
Was hoping Bridge would return tomorrow as Adomah is a real threat down the right for Bristol City. If Barnes is left out, have a feeling that Hoskins or Buckley will start from the left. Expect one or two other changes to keep the team fresh for Saturday. Regarding the very sad news about Dave Sexton, never saw him play but truly a great football man and was one of the key managers when I was growing up. Hope we do a minutes silence tomorrow night if it can be fitted in to the corporate overload.
Dave Sexton was lovely guy. I had the pleasure of playing against him in the early 70's. He played centre half alongside George Petchey with George Cohen and Mel Hopkins as his fullbacks. I was the young centre forward trying to make an impression. Though marking me,he spent much of the game trying to help me by telling me how to curve my runs to maximise my speed. As I was living in Chelsea at the time, I also used to watch him coaching Osgood, Hutchinson and Garland at Stamford bridge. A real gent and a coach through and through. Would be nice to have a minutes silence for him. RIP
I`m truly sorry for your personal loss.
You better than most would have appreciated his attributes as a fellow professional,and maybe shared a beer or two.
While i wasn`t lucky enough to see him play,i did appreciate his rivalry as Chelsea boss against Don Revie,and of course taking the cup in 70. its daft but i can still name both teams in full,guess it`s just one of those things that stay with you...UTA
Good posts; I have similar memories. UTA
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Was hoping Bridge would return tomorrow as Adomah is a real threat down the right for Bristol City. If Barnes is left out, have a feeling that Hoskins or Buckley will start from the left. Expect one or two other changes to keep the team fresh for Saturday. Regarding the very sad news about Dave Sexton, never saw him play but truly a great football man and was one of the key managers when I was growing up. Hope we do a minutes silence tomorrow night if it can be fitted in to the corporate overload.[/p][/quote]Dave Sexton was lovely guy. I had the pleasure of playing against him in the early 70's. He played centre half alongside George Petchey with George Cohen and Mel Hopkins as his fullbacks. I was the young centre forward trying to make an impression. Though marking me,he spent much of the game trying to help me by telling me how to curve my runs to maximise my speed. As I was living in Chelsea at the time, I also used to watch him coaching Osgood, Hutchinson and Garland at Stamford bridge. A real gent and a coach through and through. Would be nice to have a minutes silence for him. RIP[/p][/quote]I`m truly sorry for your personal loss. You better than most would have appreciated his attributes as a fellow professional,and maybe shared a beer or two. While i wasn`t lucky enough to see him play,i did appreciate his rivalry as Chelsea boss against Don Revie,and of course taking the cup in 70. its daft but i can still name both teams in full,guess it`s just one of those things that stay with you...UTA[/p][/quote]Good posts; I have similar memories. UTA brightonup
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11:55pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

campotolox wrote:
TUG AS MEAT LOAF SAID I OUT OF 3 IS NOT BAD,PS SORRY ABOUT THESPELLING WENT TO THE KNOLL,NO MORE SIAD!!
Dont mess with me on this,did you go to the Knoll or not.
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: TUG AS MEAT LOAF SAID I OUT OF 3 IS NOT BAD,PS SORRY ABOUT THESPELLING WENT TO THE KNOLL,NO MORE SIAD!![/p][/quote]Dont mess with me on this,did you go to the Knoll or not. tug509
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10:36am Tue 27 Nov 12

ballantrrae says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has.
In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has.

Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested.

Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.
Vegas Seagull I think that Hoskins can cover CMS whom he has replaced in both the last two games.
The problem earlier when CMS was out was the fact that Hosko was injured as well. That is not the case now.
Actually I would like to see both CMS and Hosko playing and starting together. I haven't seen them on the pitch at the same time and one of the few times they were was I believe last year away to Cardiff.
I recall Poyet saying sometime ago that one of the things that Hosko could do was 'come in from the left' which is where Barnes quite often operates. So if as per your suggestion that Barnes is put on the bench, then Hosko could start in his place. Incidently Hoskins can take penalties as well, he scored one in the 'reserve friendly' against Watford last week.
I'd be interested to see Hoskins on the left but i still think he's more suited (from the little we've seen and previous clubs) in the central role in our formation. There has to be a degree of tracking back (a la Barnes) and i think that's probably why Dobbie is not played as a Barnes alternative. Barnes or Spanish Dave (please) tomorrow me thinks.
Regarding the centre back, i'm not sure if this is still on the cards. Whilst Elphick was cover, we still have three quality CB's with Caldi as cover. I can't remember where Dunk's court case is at but short of him being unavailable, the defence is pretty much sorted. This is of course a retrospective view having now seen the various components in action.., (Calde has looked a bit dodgy though...)
Fairweathersupporter Dunk's court case is scheduled for (mid) January I believe.
Perhaps I am being over cautious but with really only 3 CBs (ignoring Calde) I would feel more relaxed if we signed another to allow for injuries and suspensions. Looking to the future GG's contract expires in the summer.
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Hate the idea of not having Bridge available but his absense has given Painter the chance to show what he can bring to the party, and so far I like what he has. In playing Painter we do lose some fo the raiding skills of Bridge but thta's about all we do lose. Gus has said many times, 'when players get their chance they should take it,' well Painter certainly has. Contrast the Bridge-Painter example to that of when CMS was out, no one could fill his shoes, no one took their chance. Gus may only want to play a lone striker system, and buying a quality striker may not change that,but at least we would have a player good enough to fill the void when CMS is injured, having a short term loss of form or just needs to be rested. Barnes won't start tomorrow, he is headed for the bench and may stay there for a few games. This will give another a chance to step up just as Painter has. As with losing Bridge we will lose something by not having Barnes on the park, mainly his tracking back and helping out the defense, Dobbie or David, probabaly David. It seems ot me that Dobbie is the cover for CMS or Buckley if either need to be subbed. Who ever it is the player must do as Painter has done and make it hard for Gus to leave him out for the next one.[/p][/quote]Vegas Seagull I think that Hoskins can cover CMS whom he has replaced in both the last two games. The problem earlier when CMS was out was the fact that Hosko was injured as well. That is not the case now. Actually I would like to see both CMS and Hosko playing and starting together. I haven't seen them on the pitch at the same time and one of the few times they were was I believe last year away to Cardiff. I recall Poyet saying sometime ago that one of the things that Hosko could do was 'come in from the left' which is where Barnes quite often operates. So if as per your suggestion that Barnes is put on the bench, then Hosko could start in his place. Incidently Hoskins can take penalties as well, he scored one in the 'reserve friendly' against Watford last week.[/p][/quote]I'd be interested to see Hoskins on the left but i still think he's more suited (from the little we've seen and previous clubs) in the central role in our formation. There has to be a degree of tracking back (a la Barnes) and i think that's probably why Dobbie is not played as a Barnes alternative. Barnes or Spanish Dave (please) tomorrow me thinks. Regarding the centre back, i'm not sure if this is still on the cards. Whilst Elphick was cover, we still have three quality CB's with Caldi as cover. I can't remember where Dunk's court case is at but short of him being unavailable, the defence is pretty much sorted. This is of course a retrospective view having now seen the various components in action.., (Calde has looked a bit dodgy though...)[/p][/quote]Fairweathersupporter Dunk's court case is scheduled for (mid) January I believe. Perhaps I am being over cautious but with really only 3 CBs (ignoring Calde) I would feel more relaxed if we signed another to allow for injuries and suspensions. Looking to the future GG's contract expires in the summer. ballantrrae
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