LuaLua is back in the good books (From The Argus)

pappaK wrote:
Boy OH ! Boy Vagas. Give Lua Lua and Dunk a break.Nitt picking other peoples comments.Lua is young,exciting to watch, likes a beer,was in a wrong place at the wrong time,have we all sometimes been there as well.Get off their backs.,don`t try and philosophise, you are out of your depth.It was a breath of fresh air to see Lua when he came on,don`t start filling his head with your junk

dave from bexill wrote:
Absolutely right. Long may it last

pappaK wrote:
Boy OH ! Boy Vagas. Give Lua Lua and Dunk a break.Nitt picking other peoples comments.Lua is young,exciting to watch, likes a beer,was in a wrong place at the wrong time,have we all sometimes been there as well.Get off their backs.,don`t try and philosophise, you are out of your depth.It was a breath of fresh air to see Lua when he came on,don`t start filling his head with your junk

pappaK wrote:
Boy OH ! Boy Vagas. Give Lua Lua and Dunk a break.Nitt picking other peoples comments.Lua is young,exciting to watch, likes a beer,was in a wrong place at the wrong time,have we all sometimes been there as well.Get off their backs.,don`t try and philosophise, you are out of your depth.It was a breath of fresh air to see Lua when he came on,don`t start filling his head with your junk

Dr Baldhead wrote:
It wasn't so much LL's goal - which took a heavy deflection - but more his general performance. He was really lively, seeking to take on the full back at every opportunity and attacking with flair. I haven't seen him play like that since the home match v Derby back in March.

When he's on song, he's one of our most exciting players.

VegasSeagull wrote:
I don't care whether it's Brighton or Man United, whether the players is on 10k a week or 100k, they all have a responsibilty to their club, team mates and the fans that pay their wages. Young lads like Lua Lua, kids with talent, owe it to themsleves and those that gave them a chance to do their best and ensure that they live their private lives in such as way as to let anyone down, including themselves. PappaK if you don't understand this, or agree with it, then how would you advise these lads, what would you tell them. It's too easy to say that we have all messed up at one time or another, we are not playing for Brighton and we don't make their money. Football is not an ordinary job and ordinary people don't make footballers. Their is a load that these lads have to carry and it will stay with them right through their career, how they carry that load defines just how good they will turn out to be.

Freeloaders wrote:

pappaK wrote:
Boy OH ! Boy Vagas. Give Lua Lua and Dunk a break.Nitt picking other peoples comments.Lua is young,exciting to watch, likes a beer,was in a wrong place at the wrong time,have we all sometimes been there as well.Get off their backs.,don`t try and philosophise, you are out of your depth.It was a breath of fresh air to see Lua when he came on,don`t start filling his head with your junk

Please Vagas you say what ever you like my friend.Wake up pappak read Poyets words."His a young man that lives on his own."This is a big Ref to the guys life away from football.Like me & many people know the two players you love so much are big trouble,the main reason other clubs didn't wish to sign him.Before you start on me or people like Vagas remember this.These guys get paid a vile amount of money to entertain people for just 90mins once a week.What do you really think Poyet ment by his a young man living on his own?The club is not asking these players to live like nuns but just to do the job they are very well paid to do.Many young guys with much more talent than them will never get the chance they both have in life.

Freeloaders wrote:
Dream world stuff.The super Forster-Caskey kid just a un-used sub yet again.Ask anyone in football about his performance at Oxford.The wonder boy Barker was pure rubbish against poor old Wimbledon.So what some of you think is THFC took Grant Hall & then said let Brighton keep the best ones lol.If the football world thought lewis Dunk was special he would not be here believe me.Same reason Noony is a Cardiff player now.

ballantrrae wrote:
Good to hear that LuaLua is showing a little of his old form, lets hope it continues. Judging from the Argus player ratings and their report Hoskins seems to have had a decent game with some nice touches and Barnes apparently did well when he replaced Dobbie. With CMS on schedule potentially for a 20 goal season things are beginning to brighten (excuse the pun) as far as the Albion's attack is concerned. I would however still like to see another striker being signed.
A pity that Orlandi is out since it is conceivable that if he was fit to start instead of Dobbie we might have a really interesting but more balanced starting line up. Orlandi's passing ability could just add that extra element that might make the difference between drawing and winning.

kwaidam wrote:
i think all bha fans should be happy to hear the following... it sounded nasty. we should all wish romain all the best, he never let us down...

GILLINGHAM have revealed Romain Vincelot has recovered well from the worrying injury which saw him stretchered from the field in Saturday’s 2-1 win at
Rotherham.
The midfielder, on loan from Brighton, came off worse in a nasty-looking aerial challenge by the Millers’ Jason Taylor which required lengthy on-pitch treatment and subsequently 11 minutes of injury time.
But Gills boss Martin Allen has allayed any fears of serious injury and it is
hoped Vincelot will return to training later this week.

dave from bexill wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
Good to hear that LuaLua is showing a little of his old form, lets hope it continues. Judging from the Argus player ratings and their report Hoskins seems to have had a decent game with some nice touches and Barnes apparently did well when he replaced Dobbie. With CMS on schedule potentially for a 20 goal season things are beginning to brighten (excuse the pun) as far as the Albion's attack is concerned. I would however still like to see another striker being signed.
A pity that Orlandi is out since it is conceivable that if he was fit to start instead of Dobbie we might have a really interesting but more balanced starting line up. Orlandi's passing ability could just add that extra element that might make the difference between drawing and winning.

Yes, I don't think we can underestimate the burgeoning influence of Orlandi on the team.
At his best Kaz is another of those players, who on their day can be a joy to watch, but like most out and out wingers he can sometimes seem a bit of a luxury, prone to ups and downs and to disappearing during a match, but a real 'bums off seat' player, like Noone was at his best.

Freeloaders wrote:
I can name the three clubs watching Liam Bridcutt because his a hard working player that turns up for training on time.Can you name the clubs watching Lewis Dunk please.

dave from bexill wrote:

dave from bexill wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:
Good to hear that LuaLua is showing a little of his old form, lets hope it continues. Judging from the Argus player ratings and their report Hoskins seems to have had a decent game with some nice touches and Barnes apparently did well when he replaced Dobbie. With CMS on schedule potentially for a 20 goal season things are beginning to brighten (excuse the pun) as far as the Albion's attack is concerned. I would however still like to see another striker being signed.
A pity that Orlandi is out since it is conceivable that if he was fit to start instead of Dobbie we might have a really interesting but more balanced starting line up. Orlandi's passing ability could just add that extra element that might make the difference between drawing and winning.

Yes, I don't think we can underestimate the burgeoning influence of Orlandi on the team.
At his best Kaz is another of those players, who on their day can be a joy to watch, but like most out and out wingers he can sometimes seem a bit of a luxury, prone to ups and downs and to disappearing during a match, but a real 'bums off seat' player, like Noone was at his best.

Sorry. I think I meant to say we Shouldn't underestimate Orlandi's influence/ can't overestimate. Anyway, what I mean is, he's good and becoming very influential.

Freeloaders wrote:
I can name the three clubs watching Liam Bridcutt because his a hard working player that turns up for training on time.Can you name the clubs watching Lewis Dunk please.

Hovite wrote:

kwaidam wrote:
i think all bha fans should be happy to hear the following... it sounded nasty. we should all wish romain all the best, he never let us down...

GILLINGHAM have revealed Romain Vincelot has recovered well from the worrying injury which saw him stretchered from the field in Saturday’s 2-1 win at
Rotherham.
The midfielder, on loan from Brighton, came off worse in a nasty-looking aerial challenge by the Millers’ Jason Taylor which required lengthy on-pitch treatment and subsequently 11 minutes of injury time.
But Gills boss Martin Allen has allayed any fears of serious injury and it is
hoped Vincelot will return to training later this week.

Thanks for that I heard this on the radio Saturday. Sounded pretty serious at the time and it is good to hear it is not as bad as first thought.

Freeloaders wrote:
Dream world stuff.The super Forster-Caskey kid just a un-used sub yet again.Ask anyone in football about his performance at Oxford.The wonder boy Barker was pure rubbish against poor old Wimbledon.So what some of you think is THFC took Grant Hall & then said let Brighton keep the best ones lol.If the football world thought lewis Dunk was special he would not be here believe me.Same reason Noony is a Cardiff player now.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Taffster, Dobbie, Crofts and Lopez have started matches if my memory serves me correctly, Dobbie only last week.
It seems to me that if a player is signed some fans think that it means they will start every week, or even most weeks, that's npt the case.
Some players are signed as squad players, they know that their role may not mean that they start matches that often. When the three names above get their chance to start they need to shine brightly enough to ensure a good claim to start the next match.

In an ideal world we would have eleven starting and eleven just as good to cover every position in case of injury or suspension. I don't think we have the money to pay wages to two quality starting elevens.

As for the youngsters, many of them came to us when we were in Div one, the higher we climb the better the quality of the young kids will be. A sixteen year old who has the choice of coming to a Div one team of a top ten Championship team or better, will choose the higher team.



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mark by the sea wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Taffster, Dobbie, Crofts and Lopez have started matches if my memory serves me correctly, Dobbie only last week.
It seems to me that if a player is signed some fans think that it means they will start every week, or even most weeks, that's npt the case.
Some players are signed as squad players, they know that their role may not mean that they start matches that often. When the three names above get their chance to start they need to shine brightly enough to ensure a good claim to start the next match.

In an ideal world we would have eleven starting and eleven just as good to cover every position in case of injury or suspension. I don't think we have the money to pay wages to two quality starting elevens.

As for the youngsters, many of them came to us when we were in Div one, the higher we climb the better the quality of the young kids will be. A sixteen year old who has the choice of coming to a Div one team of a top ten Championship team or better, will choose the higher team.



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The club have just got rid of hInsh and the other poor coaching staff, the idea that things will change over night, are simply deluded,
It will take 5 years to get a system in place with a scouting system. Then we will start to produce quality.
Saints and palace have produced players who have graced the permiership.. That's not luck but sheer hard work by outstanding coaching staff.
Foster caskey needs to show his ability week in week out, but that's young players, lots of clubs looked at him, lack of pace his downfall.
As for dunk, he has to make that position his, stop the mistakes, and step up.

dave from bexill wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Taffster, Dobbie, Crofts and Lopez have started matches if my memory serves me correctly, Dobbie only last week.
It seems to me that if a player is signed some fans think that it means they will start every week, or even most weeks, that's npt the case.
Some players are signed as squad players, they know that their role may not mean that they start matches that often. When the three names above get their chance to start they need to shine brightly enough to ensure a good claim to start the next match.

In an ideal world we would have eleven starting and eleven just as good to cover every position in case of injury or suspension. I don't think we have the money to pay wages to two quality starting elevens.

As for the youngsters, many of them came to us when we were in Div one, the higher we climb the better the quality of the young kids will be. A sixteen year old who has the choice of coming to a Div one team of a top ten Championship team or better, will choose the higher team.



,

The club have just got rid of hInsh and the other poor coaching staff, the idea that things will change over night, are simply deluded,
It will take 5 years to get a system in place with a scouting system. Then we will start to produce quality.
Saints and palace have produced players who have graced the permiership.. That's not luck but sheer hard work by outstanding coaching staff.
Foster caskey needs to show his ability week in week out, but that's young players, lots of clubs looked at him, lack of pace his downfall.
As for dunk, he has to make that position his, stop the mistakes, and step up.

I agree with the above regarding young players and the massive investment into the Academy should allow a much more even playing field to enable the Albion to attract quality youngsters, something that it's been unable and/or unwilling to do previously. London apart, the South East has never been seen as an "hot bed" of soccer talent compared to some other areas. I lived for some years in the North East and Middlesbrough, as an example, were on occasion able to field a full team of local kids,a number of whom have gone onto make good careers for themselves.There are numerous reasons for this, that aren't neccessarily football related, suffice to say that when trying to bring a youngster to the club, parents, schools and good liaison with local clubs and a proper scouting system is of paramount importance. And of course, if a club can produce just one player a year into the first team squad on a regular basis, this would probably be regarded as successful.
I think Mark above is right about the length of time it will take to get a decent system in place and key will be convincing good young players and their parents/guardians that the Brighton Academy is the place to be. Finally and I hope not too boringly, clubs like Brighton will have to rely more and more in the future on producing young players to either make up much of the first team squad, or to be sold on for profit in order to remain viable and competitive
.

Hovite wrote:
the taffster is Freeloader by the way. Talking to and agreeing with himself again.

Hovite wrote:
I know Vegas, although it's not about debate, the purpose is destroying the forum. The one two or three wums and trolls have well over 30 names between them. The LACHANCE name goes on to the Echo website and stirs up the Shampton fans with; Get Adkins out. LACHANCE is the taffster, is Freeloaders, is WisdomSpeaks, is john newman, is PappaK, is seagullsays, is carrot muncher, is suede27, is JUPILER, to name but a few. I think the most important thing is recognising it. As soon as I saw Troll Busters list a few weeks ago, it all clicked together. These / and this attention seeker /s are more addicted to posting than we are. ;o)

dave from bexill wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Taffster, Dobbie, Crofts and Lopez have started matches if my memory serves me correctly, Dobbie only last week.
It seems to me that if a player is signed some fans think that it means they will start every week, or even most weeks, that's npt the case.
Some players are signed as squad players, they know that their role may not mean that they start matches that often. When the three names above get their chance to start they need to shine brightly enough to ensure a good claim to start the next match.

In an ideal world we would have eleven starting and eleven just as good to cover every position in case of injury or suspension. I don't think we have the money to pay wages to two quality starting elevens.

As for the youngsters, many of them came to us when we were in Div one, the higher we climb the better the quality of the young kids will be. A sixteen year old who has the choice of coming to a Div one team of a top ten Championship team or better, will choose the higher team.



,

The club have just got rid of hInsh and the other poor coaching staff, the idea that things will change over night, are simply deluded,
It will take 5 years to get a system in place with a scouting system. Then we will start to produce quality.
Saints and palace have produced players who have graced the permiership.. That's not luck but sheer hard work by outstanding coaching staff.
Foster caskey needs to show his ability week in week out, but that's young players, lots of clubs looked at him, lack of pace his downfall.
As for dunk, he has to make that position his, stop the mistakes, and step up.

I agree with the above regarding young players and the massive investment into the Academy should allow a much more even playing field to enable the Albion to attract quality youngsters, something that it's been unable and/or unwilling to do previously. London apart, the South East has never been seen as an "hot bed" of soccer talent compared to some other areas. I lived for some years in the North East and Middlesbrough, as an example, were on occasion able to field a full team of local kids,a number of whom have gone onto make good careers for themselves.There are numerous reasons for this, that aren't neccessarily football related, suffice to say that when trying to bring a youngster to the club, parents, schools and good liaison with local clubs and a proper scouting system is of paramount importance. And of course, if a club can produce just one player a year into the first team squad on a regular basis, this would probably be regarded as successful.
I think Mark above is right about the length of time it will take to get a decent system in place and key will be convincing good young players and their parents/guardians that the Brighton Academy is the place to be. Finally and I hope not too boringly, clubs like Brighton will have to rely more and more in the future on producing young players to either make up much of the first team squad, or to be sold on for profit in order to remain viable and competitive
.

Hovite wrote:
the taffster is Freeloader by the way.

Talking to and agreeing with himself again.

Hovite wrote:
the taffster is Freeloader by the way.

Talking to and agreeing with himself again.

Hovite wrote:
yadayadayadayada

Toby and JFC are from the acadamy and have already made it into the first team.

Case closed monkey brain.

Hovite wrote:
yadayadayadayada

Toby and JFC are from the acadamy and have already made it into the first team.

Case closed monkey brain.