The ArgusAlbion put contract talks on hold (From The Argus)

Get involved: Send your news, views, pictures and video by texting SUPIC to 80360 or email us.

Albion put contract talks on hold

The Argus: Captain Gordon Greer is one of 13 players out of contract in the summer Captain Gordon Greer is one of 13 players out of contract in the summer

Albion have barred new contract talks as they bid for promotion from the Championship.

Thirteen players, including first team regulars like captain Gordon Greer, Adam El-Abd and Ashley Barnes, are out-of-contract next summer. They are effectively playing for their futures, with half of the season left and the Seagulls just outside the play-offs.

Boss Gus Poyet revealed to The Argus: “There are no contract talks. Everything has got a time and there are moments during the season when, for what ever reason, the clubs needs to move or sometimes the player or the agent tries to move and then we’ll see but right now no, no talks.

“We have got plenty of time. It will depend on many things. I don’t want this to sound like they are playing for their contracts in a bad way but it’s the truth.

“Depending on how you do and where we finish you will have a better chance to get a new contract. My thinking always when I was a player was ‘make sure you perform’.

“If you perform you will get a contract where you are playing or somewhere else for sure, if you don’t and if you start being too worried about the contract situation then it’s going to be more difficult.”

Will Hoskins, Lewis Dunk, David, Gary Dicker and second choice goalkeeper Peter Brezovan are others looking for contracts.

The list also includes injured duo Vicente and Marcos Painter, on-loan Romain Vincelot and Roland Bergkamp and the out-of-favour Matt Sparrow.

Two-page preview of Albion's game against Millwall tonight plus much more in The Argus today

Comments (38)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

9:22am Tue 18 Dec 12

Hove Actually says...

Do you run the risk of losing players who are out of contract? As a manager wouldn't you already know who you wanted when you step up?
Do you run the risk of losing players who are out of contract? As a manager wouldn't you already know who you wanted when you step up? Hove Actually
  • Score: 0

9:46am Tue 18 Dec 12

SMF20 says...

When you look at the 13 players that are out of contract next summer, if you are honest then you will be able to see that most are not up to top 6 championship football let alone what is required for the premiership. There are some terrific pros in amongst those guys but its fair to say that some have had there day in terms of them being at their best and others have reached the best of their ability and the next level is a step too far. I can see 3 of those guys getting a new offering come next May, possibly 4 but the others? They will have to do what GP suggests and play their hearts out to earn themself a contract elsewhere. Fantastic guys, all of them but everyone knows that nothing lasts forever. All good signs about where our club is heading in my eyes with one tiny exception... Lets not lose someone who should be kept on a free
When you look at the 13 players that are out of contract next summer, if you are honest then you will be able to see that most are not up to top 6 championship football let alone what is required for the premiership. There are some terrific pros in amongst those guys but its fair to say that some have had there day in terms of them being at their best and others have reached the best of their ability and the next level is a step too far. I can see 3 of those guys getting a new offering come next May, possibly 4 but the others? They will have to do what GP suggests and play their hearts out to earn themself a contract elsewhere. Fantastic guys, all of them but everyone knows that nothing lasts forever. All good signs about where our club is heading in my eyes with one tiny exception... Lets not lose someone who should be kept on a free SMF20
  • Score: 0

9:58am Tue 18 Dec 12

Gull rush says...

No better motivator than money. Contracts mean money, so
let their feet do the talking from the pitch all the way to the bank!
No better motivator than money. Contracts mean money, so let their feet do the talking from the pitch all the way to the bank! Gull rush
  • Score: 0

10:04am Tue 18 Dec 12

saraman says...

According to the Argus today Gus is considering a bid for Chris Woods. WBA have set a figure of £1.75m. Is Gus playing mind games with lad prior to tonights game? If he thinks he may be coming back to The Albion it may put him off his game.
According to the Argus today Gus is considering a bid for Chris Woods. WBA have set a figure of £1.75m. Is Gus playing mind games with lad prior to tonights game? If he thinks he may be coming back to The Albion it may put him off his game. saraman
  • Score: 0

10:26am Tue 18 Dec 12

championshipgull says...

I know its from the Sun but;
BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin.
:http://www.thesun.c
o.uk/sol/homepage/sp
ort/football/4702912
/Charlie-Austin-tran
sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu
rnley-ace.html#ixzz2
FOhTU5Wl
I know its from the Sun but; BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin. :http://www.thesun.c o.uk/sol/homepage/sp ort/football/4702912 /Charlie-Austin-tran sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu rnley-ace.html#ixzz2 FOhTU5Wl championshipgull
  • Score: 0

10:45am Tue 18 Dec 12

Bob! says...

Hove Actually wrote:
Do you run the risk of losing players who are out of contract? As a manager wouldn't you already know who you wanted when you step up?
You'd know which ones you wanted for the Championship...
and which ones you wanted if you were in the Premier League.

What you don't know is which league you'll be playing in.
[quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: Do you run the risk of losing players who are out of contract? As a manager wouldn't you already know who you wanted when you step up?[/p][/quote]You'd know which ones you wanted for the Championship... and which ones you wanted if you were in the Premier League. What you don't know is which league you'll be playing in. Bob!
  • Score: 0

11:02am Tue 18 Dec 12

Hovite says...

championshipgull wrote:
I know its from the Sun but;
BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin.
:http://www.thesun.c

o.uk/sol/homepage/sp

ort/football/4702912

/Charlie-Austin-tran

sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu

rnley-ace.html#ixzz2

FOhTU5Wl
Old Scrote of the Amex won't be happy, he just bet his mortgage it wouldn't happen. Sorry my friend ;o)

Good shout from Alan G Skinner, northstand4, Seaguller and kwaidam and the few others who mentioned him.

We shall see though, but it's a target confirmed so will be interesting to see what happens and if we are targeting anyone else. UTA
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: I know its from the Sun but; BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin. :http://www.thesun.c o.uk/sol/homepage/sp ort/football/4702912 /Charlie-Austin-tran sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu rnley-ace.html#ixzz2 FOhTU5Wl[/p][/quote]Old Scrote of the Amex won't be happy, he just bet his mortgage it wouldn't happen. Sorry my friend ;o) Good shout from Alan G Skinner, northstand4, Seaguller and kwaidam and the few others who mentioned him. We shall see though, but it's a target confirmed so will be interesting to see what happens and if we are targeting anyone else. UTA Hovite
  • Score: 0

11:12am Tue 18 Dec 12

Tommy11 says...

I think Austin is unlikely.... I feel that we should persue our interest in Olivier Occéan, plus get a well established championship striker.

For those who don't know Occean he fits the bill.....great scoring record in Germany. He was close to signing for us in the summer...
I think Austin is unlikely.... I feel that we should persue our interest in Olivier Occéan, plus get a well established championship striker. For those who don't know Occean he fits the bill.....great scoring record in Germany. He was close to signing for us in the summer... Tommy11
  • Score: 0

11:13am Tue 18 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

Some of the names mentioned are done and dusted not matter what happens, Vincelot, Bergkamp and Sparrow, and would Vicente want another year, I doubt it. Painter might have been able to play himself into a new deal but he won't get enough games to do so.


.
Some of the names mentioned are done and dusted not matter what happens, Vincelot, Bergkamp and Sparrow, and would Vicente want another year, I doubt it. Painter might have been able to play himself into a new deal but he won't get enough games to do so. . VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

11:21am Tue 18 Dec 12

ballantrrae says...

Rather than looking at who is going to be out of contract by the summer I felt it might be worthwhile looking at who will remain so here goes.
In defence, Kuszczak, Bruno and Calderon. Possibly also Ankergren.
In midfield, Bridcutt, Orlandi, JFC, Crofts and surprisingly Harley.
On the wings Buckley and LuaLua.
Strikers CMS, Dobbie and Agdestein.
In addition to the Argus's list of players in their report above one mustn't forget that both Hammond and especially Bridge in all probability will need replacing.
So Poyet is faced potentially with a major recruitment task this summer. Given that (to quote Poyet himself) it takes time for players to adapt to the BHA playing style, it would make sense to bring in 3, 4 or even 5 new players now assuming the budget will allow that. Any departures in January would make such a policy more practical.
Of those out of contract I imagine Poyet will want to hold on to at least two if not all 3 of Dunk, Greer and El-Arb. In addition I would expect Barnes and possibly Dicker to remain.as well if we are still in the Championship.
So for next season Poyet will need to sign another GK, one CB two FBs, at least one but most probably two midfielders, another winger and two possibly 3 strikers (depending on how Hoskins does over the next month.) That's alot of new faces to be signed and intergrated into the club by next August.
Changing subject does anyone know if Calde is going to be fit for this evening's game. With Bruno and Painter already out we look very short of Full backs.
Interesting (but unlikely) rumours re Woods and Austin. At the moment I would have thought we would be well down the potential clubs for Austin but then I thought the same about CMS 18 months ago.
Rather than looking at who is going to be out of contract by the summer I felt it might be worthwhile looking at who will remain so here goes. In defence, Kuszczak, Bruno and Calderon. Possibly also Ankergren. In midfield, Bridcutt, Orlandi, JFC, Crofts and surprisingly Harley. On the wings Buckley and LuaLua. Strikers CMS, Dobbie and Agdestein. In addition to the Argus's list of players in their report above one mustn't forget that both Hammond and especially Bridge in all probability will need replacing. So Poyet is faced potentially with a major recruitment task this summer. Given that (to quote Poyet himself) it takes time for players to adapt to the BHA playing style, it would make sense to bring in 3, 4 or even 5 new players now assuming the budget will allow that. Any departures in January would make such a policy more practical. Of those out of contract I imagine Poyet will want to hold on to at least two if not all 3 of Dunk, Greer and El-Arb. In addition I would expect Barnes and possibly Dicker to remain.as well if we are still in the Championship. So for next season Poyet will need to sign another GK, one CB two FBs, at least one but most probably two midfielders, another winger and two possibly 3 strikers (depending on how Hoskins does over the next month.) That's alot of new faces to be signed and intergrated into the club by next August. Changing subject does anyone know if Calde is going to be fit for this evening's game. With Bruno and Painter already out we look very short of Full backs. Interesting (but unlikely) rumours re Woods and Austin. At the moment I would have thought we would be well down the potential clubs for Austin but then I thought the same about CMS 18 months ago. ballantrrae
  • Score: 0

11:24am Tue 18 Dec 12

the taffster says...

Tommy11 wrote:
I think Austin is unlikely.... I feel that we should persue our interest in Olivier Occéan, plus get a well established championship striker.

For those who don't know Occean he fits the bill.....great scoring record in Germany. He was close to signing for us in the summer...
i saw this guy play last season.he looked all at sea.joking apart,burnley have confirmed austin isnt for sale in the transfer window.kenwynnnnne jones is unhappy at stoke though.hes the ideal target man in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: I think Austin is unlikely.... I feel that we should persue our interest in Olivier Occéan, plus get a well established championship striker. For those who don't know Occean he fits the bill.....great scoring record in Germany. He was close to signing for us in the summer...[/p][/quote]i saw this guy play last season.he looked all at sea.joking apart,burnley have confirmed austin isnt for sale in the transfer window.kenwynnnnne jones is unhappy at stoke though.hes the ideal target man in my opinion. the taffster
  • Score: 0

11:27am Tue 18 Dec 12

Vicente_1 says...

Gus comes out and says hes gonna spend big on a striker! I think even i could have written the story for the sun there. Gus says he has money so they pick out the obvious target and write a story. I guarantee Gus would want a goal machine like Austin but so would all 24 managers in the championship. A total non story its just the beginning of the January rumour mill especially as the club is usually so secretive i find it difficult to beleive wed leek this!
Gus comes out and says hes gonna spend big on a striker! I think even i could have written the story for the sun there. Gus says he has money so they pick out the obvious target and write a story. I guarantee Gus would want a goal machine like Austin but so would all 24 managers in the championship. A total non story its just the beginning of the January rumour mill especially as the club is usually so secretive i find it difficult to beleive wed leek this! Vicente_1
  • Score: 0

11:53am Tue 18 Dec 12

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

Hovite wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
I know its from the Sun but;
BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin.
:http://www.thesun.c


o.uk/sol/homepage/sp


ort/football/4702912


/Charlie-Austin-tran


sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu


rnley-ace.html#ixzz2


FOhTU5Wl
Old Scrote of the Amex won't be happy, he just bet his mortgage it wouldn't happen. Sorry my friend ;o)

Good shout from Alan G Skinner, northstand4, Seaguller and kwaidam and the few others who mentioned him.

We shall see though, but it's a target confirmed so will be interesting to see what happens and if we are targeting anyone else. UTA
Just because something is mentioned in the Sun doesn't mean it's going to happen! :-) TBH honest I can't see Burnley selling him to another Champo side, nor the player choosing to do so. Surely a Prem club will sniff around him in Jan?
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: I know its from the Sun but; BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin. :http://www.thesun.c o.uk/sol/homepage/sp ort/football/4702912 /Charlie-Austin-tran sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu rnley-ace.html#ixzz2 FOhTU5Wl[/p][/quote]Old Scrote of the Amex won't be happy, he just bet his mortgage it wouldn't happen. Sorry my friend ;o) Good shout from Alan G Skinner, northstand4, Seaguller and kwaidam and the few others who mentioned him. We shall see though, but it's a target confirmed so will be interesting to see what happens and if we are targeting anyone else. UTA[/p][/quote]Just because something is mentioned in the Sun doesn't mean it's going to happen! :-) TBH honest I can't see Burnley selling him to another Champo side, nor the player choosing to do so. Surely a Prem club will sniff around him in Jan? Old Scrote of the Amex
  • Score: 0

11:54am Tue 18 Dec 12

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

Tommy11 wrote:
I think Austin is unlikely.... I feel that we should persue our interest in Olivier Occéan, plus get a well established championship striker.

For those who don't know Occean he fits the bill.....great scoring record in Germany. He was close to signing for us in the summer...
1 goal in 12 games this season? Truly frightening...!
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: I think Austin is unlikely.... I feel that we should persue our interest in Olivier Occéan, plus get a well established championship striker. For those who don't know Occean he fits the bill.....great scoring record in Germany. He was close to signing for us in the summer...[/p][/quote]1 goal in 12 games this season? Truly frightening...! Old Scrote of the Amex
  • Score: 0

11:58am Tue 18 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

Unless Burnley are in financial trouble why would they sell Austin in mid season, given the goals he is scoring for them it doesn't make sense.

I have to think that any new strikers that arrive will come from the prem or abroad. I would much rather see us do a couple of expensive loan deals rather than spend millions.
If the plan works and we do manage to get promoted we could buy those that we borrowed.

To have a real chance of bringing quality players to the club we need to get into the top six by January 1st, especialy if we want to buy rather than borrow.
Unless Burnley are in financial trouble why would they sell Austin in mid season, given the goals he is scoring for them it doesn't make sense. I have to think that any new strikers that arrive will come from the prem or abroad. I would much rather see us do a couple of expensive loan deals rather than spend millions. If the plan works and we do manage to get promoted we could buy those that we borrowed. To have a real chance of bringing quality players to the club we need to get into the top six by January 1st, especialy if we want to buy rather than borrow. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

12:09pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Hovite says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
Hovite wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
I know its from the Sun but;
BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin.
:http://www.thesun.c



o.uk/sol/homepage/sp



ort/football/4702912



/Charlie-Austin-tran



sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu



rnley-ace.html#ixzz2



FOhTU5Wl
Old Scrote of the Amex won't be happy, he just bet his mortgage it wouldn't happen. Sorry my friend ;o)

Good shout from Alan G Skinner, northstand4, Seaguller and kwaidam and the few others who mentioned him.

We shall see though, but it's a target confirmed so will be interesting to see what happens and if we are targeting anyone else. UTA
Just because something is mentioned in the Sun doesn't mean it's going to happen! :-) TBH honest I can't see Burnley selling him to another Champo side, nor the player choosing to do so. Surely a Prem club will sniff around him in Jan?
Yep I shouldn't speak too soon.

Just watched Poyet's Millwall press conference on the seagulls iplayer.

Definately worth a view and in context rather than headline.
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: I know its from the Sun but; BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin. :http://www.thesun.c o.uk/sol/homepage/sp ort/football/4702912 /Charlie-Austin-tran sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu rnley-ace.html#ixzz2 FOhTU5Wl[/p][/quote]Old Scrote of the Amex won't be happy, he just bet his mortgage it wouldn't happen. Sorry my friend ;o) Good shout from Alan G Skinner, northstand4, Seaguller and kwaidam and the few others who mentioned him. We shall see though, but it's a target confirmed so will be interesting to see what happens and if we are targeting anyone else. UTA[/p][/quote]Just because something is mentioned in the Sun doesn't mean it's going to happen! :-) TBH honest I can't see Burnley selling him to another Champo side, nor the player choosing to do so. Surely a Prem club will sniff around him in Jan?[/p][/quote]Yep I shouldn't speak too soon. Just watched Poyet's Millwall press conference on the seagulls iplayer. Definately worth a view and in context rather than headline. Hovite
  • Score: 0

12:11pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Nathan L says...

I think we could get Austin as we have a clear plan here at the Amex whereas Burnley are stagnating and rely heavily on their strikers for a mid table finish.I also think the stadium and high attendance will play a big factor in any signing, i mean we have by 2000 the highest average attendance in the league right now. Burnley have said they wont sell him in January, however i think if we do not take our time but rather launch our bid instantly in January we have a greater chance of success. In fairness to Burnley they would need money to replace him in that window and adapt their game without him.
I think we could get Austin as we have a clear plan here at the Amex whereas Burnley are stagnating and rely heavily on their strikers for a mid table finish.I also think the stadium and high attendance will play a big factor in any signing, i mean we have by 2000 the highest average attendance in the league right now. Burnley have said they wont sell him in January, however i think if we do not take our time but rather launch our bid instantly in January we have a greater chance of success. In fairness to Burnley they would need money to replace him in that window and adapt their game without him. Nathan L
  • Score: 0

12:16pm Tue 18 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

IMHO putting contract talks on hold is exactly the right thing to do at this time.

If you were to look at the 20 players with the most playing time this season and then short list those thta you think could make the step up, your list would be a short one.

Of those that you think could step up, wait and see if any prem clubs come for them in january, that will tell you if you are right or wrong.

Of those that we have on contract my list would only have three names on it. I guess I could add three more but two of them would be third choice back up players and one as a cover player.

We really need to know where we will be before we start dishing out new contracts.
IMHO putting contract talks on hold is exactly the right thing to do at this time. If you were to look at the 20 players with the most playing time this season and then short list those thta you think could make the step up, your list would be a short one. Of those that you think could step up, wait and see if any prem clubs come for them in january, that will tell you if you are right or wrong. Of those that we have on contract my list would only have three names on it. I guess I could add three more but two of them would be third choice back up players and one as a cover player. We really need to know where we will be before we start dishing out new contracts. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

12:41pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Hovite says...

I've got a feeling that Chris Wood will also be on the cards. His loan deal with Milwall is up in Jan so any negotiation would be easier than someone in the middle of their contract. This would mean it would be on a free as well.

Gus spoke highly of him in his PC but steered away from direct the question of being interested because he didn't want to compromise tonights game.

He is young, with a lot of experience, strong, currently doing well, has great potential, knows us well, if he joined it would be for the right reasons and no fly by night like Abdul Razak last year and would be a good sensible signing.

As others have suggested his name in recent posts, I am now warming to it.
I've got a feeling that Chris Wood will also be on the cards. His loan deal with Milwall is up in Jan so any negotiation would be easier than someone in the middle of their contract. This would mean it would be on a free as well. Gus spoke highly of him in his PC but steered away from direct the question of being interested because he didn't want to compromise tonights game. He is young, with a lot of experience, strong, currently doing well, has great potential, knows us well, if he joined it would be for the right reasons and no fly by night like Abdul Razak last year and would be a good sensible signing. As others have suggested his name in recent posts, I am now warming to it. Hovite
  • Score: 0

12:46pm Tue 18 Dec 12

tinker111 says...

championshipgull wrote:
I know its from the Sun but;
BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin.
:http://www.thesun.c

o.uk/sol/homepage/sp

ort/football/4702912

/Charlie-Austin-tran

sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu

rnley-ace.html#ixzz2

FOhTU5Wl
Not enough for a Q scorer Roades 8.5 MIL that will get you a goodish front man
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: I know its from the Sun but; BRIGHTON are preparing a £4million bid for Burnley goal-machine Charlie Austin. :http://www.thesun.c o.uk/sol/homepage/sp ort/football/4702912 /Charlie-Austin-tran sfer-Brighton-eye-Bu rnley-ace.html#ixzz2 FOhTU5Wl[/p][/quote]Not enough for a Q scorer Roades 8.5 MIL that will get you a goodish front man tinker111
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Tue 18 Dec 12

tinker111 says...

saraman wrote:
According to the Argus today Gus is considering a bid for Chris Woods. WBA have set a figure of £1.75m. Is Gus playing mind games with lad prior to tonights game? If he thinks he may be coming back to The Albion it may put him off his game.
OH OMG NO
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: According to the Argus today Gus is considering a bid for Chris Woods. WBA have set a figure of £1.75m. Is Gus playing mind games with lad prior to tonights game? If he thinks he may be coming back to The Albion it may put him off his game.[/p][/quote]OH OMG NO tinker111
  • Score: 0

12:51pm Tue 18 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite do you think it's possible that diversion tactics are coming into play. Chris Wood, yep I can see the attraction, Austin too but he won't arrive. At 2 million Wood would not be expensive but we might have gone for him at any time.

My gut tells me that there are other deals simmering, guys that we are not talking about.
Hovite do you think it's possible that diversion tactics are coming into play. Chris Wood, yep I can see the attraction, Austin too but he won't arrive. At 2 million Wood would not be expensive but we might have gone for him at any time. My gut tells me that there are other deals simmering, guys that we are not talking about. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Tue 18 Dec 12

tinker111 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
IMHO putting contract talks on hold is exactly the right thing to do at this time.

If you were to look at the 20 players with the most playing time this season and then short list those thta you think could make the step up, your list would be a short one.

Of those that you think could step up, wait and see if any prem clubs come for them in january, that will tell you if you are right or wrong.

Of those that we have on contract my list would only have three names on it. I guess I could add three more but two of them would be third choice back up players and one as a cover player.

We really need to know where we will be before we start dishing out new contracts.
HI V G thanks that you see it we dont have many Prem class players up for contract's ,i think a big clear out inc two keepers will lower the wage bill but very cocerned where the class player's will come from ??? please dont say Austin
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: IMHO putting contract talks on hold is exactly the right thing to do at this time. If you were to look at the 20 players with the most playing time this season and then short list those thta you think could make the step up, your list would be a short one. Of those that you think could step up, wait and see if any prem clubs come for them in january, that will tell you if you are right or wrong. Of those that we have on contract my list would only have three names on it. I guess I could add three more but two of them would be third choice back up players and one as a cover player. We really need to know where we will be before we start dishing out new contracts.[/p][/quote]HI V G thanks that you see it we dont have many Prem class players up for contract's ,i think a big clear out inc two keepers will lower the wage bill but very cocerned where the class player's will come from ??? please dont say Austin tinker111
  • Score: 0

1:04pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Hovite says...

I don't think he will cost anything because he is on loan from West Brom to Milwall until Jan. He could choose to come on loan to us until the end of the season with an option to buy then. However he may be at the end of his contract then and come to us on a free if it works out well here.

It would be a no risk deal for us, just wages for 5 months.

Milwall have to negotiate as much as any other club who may be interested because he is not theirs.
I don't think he will cost anything because he is on loan from West Brom to Milwall until Jan. He could choose to come on loan to us until the end of the season with an option to buy then. However he may be at the end of his contract then and come to us on a free if it works out well here. It would be a no risk deal for us, just wages for 5 months. Milwall have to negotiate as much as any other club who may be interested because he is not theirs. Hovite
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Tue 18 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

Tinker, ok I won't say Austin.

I assume you mean where will the class players come from if we get promoted.

We would buy from where all the prem teams buy from, each other and Europe mostly.
Looking at Poyet's record he will start from the back again, do his best to ensure survival and then move on.

I am more worried about where do we get quality players from to get us there.
Quality players will come to a prem team, even a new one, but getting them to come to the Championship is a much bigger ask. .
Tinker, ok I won't say Austin. I assume you mean where will the class players come from if we get promoted. We would buy from where all the prem teams buy from, each other and Europe mostly. Looking at Poyet's record he will start from the back again, do his best to ensure survival and then move on. I am more worried about where do we get quality players from to get us there. Quality players will come to a prem team, even a new one, but getting them to come to the Championship is a much bigger ask. . VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

1:17pm Tue 18 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite wrote:
I don't think he will cost anything because he is on loan from West Brom to Milwall until Jan. He could choose to come on loan to us until the end of the season with an option to buy then. However he may be at the end of his contract then and come to us on a free if it works out well here. It would be a no risk deal for us, just wages for 5 months. Milwall have to negotiate as much as any other club who may be interested because he is not theirs.
I get your point but if Millwall ake a move for him in january, and if we want him too, would we not have to do the same and have to pay as he would still be in contract.
We are looking to bring players in as soon as possible so if he is one we couldn't wait. I suppose the question is, would WBA agree a further loan deal knowing that his contract is expiring, would they not prefer a sale come january.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I don't think he will cost anything because he is on loan from West Brom to Milwall until Jan. He could choose to come on loan to us until the end of the season with an option to buy then. However he may be at the end of his contract then and come to us on a free if it works out well here. It would be a no risk deal for us, just wages for 5 months. Milwall have to negotiate as much as any other club who may be interested because he is not theirs.[/p][/quote]I get your point but if Millwall ake a move for him in january, and if we want him too, would we not have to do the same and have to pay as he would still be in contract. We are looking to bring players in as soon as possible so if he is one we couldn't wait. I suppose the question is, would WBA agree a further loan deal knowing that his contract is expiring, would they not prefer a sale come january. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

1:18pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Far gull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Unless Burnley are in financial trouble why would they sell Austin in mid season, given the goals he is scoring for them it doesn't make sense.

I have to think that any new strikers that arrive will come from the prem or abroad. I would much rather see us do a couple of expensive loan deals rather than spend millions.
If the plan works and we do manage to get promoted we could buy those that we borrowed.

To have a real chance of bringing quality players to the club we need to get into the top six by January 1st, especialy if we want to buy rather than borrow.
Fully agree Vegas not a time to spend money buying better to loan and pay higher wages to them till the end of the season then see where we are.IMHO
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Unless Burnley are in financial trouble why would they sell Austin in mid season, given the goals he is scoring for them it doesn't make sense. I have to think that any new strikers that arrive will come from the prem or abroad. I would much rather see us do a couple of expensive loan deals rather than spend millions. If the plan works and we do manage to get promoted we could buy those that we borrowed. To have a real chance of bringing quality players to the club we need to get into the top six by January 1st, especialy if we want to buy rather than borrow.[/p][/quote]Fully agree Vegas not a time to spend money buying better to loan and pay higher wages to them till the end of the season then see where we are.IMHO Far gull
  • Score: 0

1:26pm Tue 18 Dec 12

mark by the sea says...

Dunk won't sign a contract, he was offered a new one pre season, and not taken up the offer, GG is going to be the wrong side of 32 and club would only offer another year, which for the player is not good enough.
As for the rest, elabd apart they can go.
Dunk won't sign a contract, he was offered a new one pre season, and not taken up the offer, GG is going to be the wrong side of 32 and club would only offer another year, which for the player is not good enough. As for the rest, elabd apart they can go. mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Hovite says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite wrote:
I don't think he will cost anything because he is on loan from West Brom to Milwall until Jan. He could choose to come on loan to us until the end of the season with an option to buy then. However he may be at the end of his contract then and come to us on a free if it works out well here. It would be a no risk deal for us, just wages for 5 months. Milwall have to negotiate as much as any other club who may be interested because he is not theirs.
I get your point but if Millwall ake a move for him in january, and if we want him too, would we not have to do the same and have to pay as he would still be in contract.
We are looking to bring players in as soon as possible so if he is one we couldn't wait. I suppose the question is, would WBA agree a further loan deal knowing that his contract is expiring, would they not prefer a sale come january.
He was on loan to Milwall until 18th November just gone, and then extended this loan for another 2 months until Jan 2013.

This loan stint of 2 months is far from committing himself to Milwall.

I know he signed for West Brom as a trainee in 2008 and has gone out on loan to Barnsley, Brighton, Birmingham and Milwall in this time.

I presume his initial contract as a trainee would have been for 5 years which will release him in July 2013.

I hope he gets a good reception at the Amex tonight.

It's obvious that we have shown an interest, but it puts the player in a very awkward position tonight if he is considering the move.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I don't think he will cost anything because he is on loan from West Brom to Milwall until Jan. He could choose to come on loan to us until the end of the season with an option to buy then. However he may be at the end of his contract then and come to us on a free if it works out well here. It would be a no risk deal for us, just wages for 5 months. Milwall have to negotiate as much as any other club who may be interested because he is not theirs.[/p][/quote]I get your point but if Millwall ake a move for him in january, and if we want him too, would we not have to do the same and have to pay as he would still be in contract. We are looking to bring players in as soon as possible so if he is one we couldn't wait. I suppose the question is, would WBA agree a further loan deal knowing that his contract is expiring, would they not prefer a sale come january.[/p][/quote]He was on loan to Milwall until 18th November just gone, and then extended this loan for another 2 months until Jan 2013. This loan stint of 2 months is far from committing himself to Milwall. I know he signed for West Brom as a trainee in 2008 and has gone out on loan to Barnsley, Brighton, Birmingham and Milwall in this time. I presume his initial contract as a trainee would have been for 5 years which will release him in July 2013. I hope he gets a good reception at the Amex tonight. It's obvious that we have shown an interest, but it puts the player in a very awkward position tonight if he is considering the move. Hovite
  • Score: 0

2:08pm Tue 18 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

Ok Hovite, let's get into tonight's match, and you other posters.

Same line up as last week?

Could CMS find himself on the bench?

What about the resumption of Barnes and CMS to start, maybe?

David or Dobbie?

A shot in the dark, how about CMS, Barnes and Dobbie, Hoskins benched?
Ok Hovite, let's get into tonight's match, and you other posters. Same line up as last week? Could CMS find himself on the bench? What about the resumption of Barnes and CMS to start, maybe? David or Dobbie? A shot in the dark, how about CMS, Barnes and Dobbie, Hoskins benched? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:39pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Hovite says...

I think CMS and WH should start together again. WH found himself in a lot of good positions and should have got a hat trick but for the lack of game time. I think CMS can pull defenders to give him the space he finds himself in?

I think these two need more starts together just to give them time to gel.

I think Lopez will be in because Gus will want to see more of him and test him out. Although he had a slow start against Forrest he came into it. Needs match time like Hoskins.
I think CMS and WH should start together again. WH found himself in a lot of good positions and should have got a hat trick but for the lack of game time. I think CMS can pull defenders to give him the space he finds himself in? I think these two need more starts together just to give them time to gel. I think Lopez will be in because Gus will want to see more of him and test him out. Although he had a slow start against Forrest he came into it. Needs match time like Hoskins. Hovite
  • Score: 0

3:20pm Tue 18 Dec 12

northstand4 says...

I think Gus will stick with the same starting 11 as Saturday, although wouldn't be surprised to see Barnes replace Hoskins. Hoping it's not another 0-0! UTA
I think Gus will stick with the same starting 11 as Saturday, although wouldn't be surprised to see Barnes replace Hoskins. Hoping it's not another 0-0! UTA northstand4
  • Score: 0

3:36pm Tue 18 Dec 12

tinker111 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Tinker, ok I won't say Austin.

I assume you mean where will the class players come from if we get promoted.

We would buy from where all the prem teams buy from, each other and Europe mostly.
Looking at Poyet's record he will start from the back again, do his best to ensure survival and then move on.

I am more worried about where do we get quality players from to get us there.
Quality players will come to a prem team, even a new one, but getting them to come to the Championship is a much bigger ask. .
Thanks again yes did mean how to get us there ,sorry but bit long in tooth first match at Goldstone some 70+ years ago and dont get the how ,why & where from thing just think players should be proud to come to Albion ?????.

OK enjoy the game tonight i intend to.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Tinker, ok I won't say Austin. I assume you mean where will the class players come from if we get promoted. We would buy from where all the prem teams buy from, each other and Europe mostly. Looking at Poyet's record he will start from the back again, do his best to ensure survival and then move on. I am more worried about where do we get quality players from to get us there. Quality players will come to a prem team, even a new one, but getting them to come to the Championship is a much bigger ask. .[/p][/quote]Thanks again yes did mean how to get us there ,sorry but bit long in tooth first match at Goldstone some 70+ years ago and dont get the how ,why & where from thing just think players should be proud to come to Albion ?????. OK enjoy the game tonight i intend to. tinker111
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Tue 18 Dec 12

sussexram40 says...

It's deffo Austin. Not Woods. Mark my words. As I said in another posting, there are mind games at work here. Wood is just a deflection.
The only question now is which 2 players will GP sell.
It's deffo Austin. Not Woods. Mark my words. As I said in another posting, there are mind games at work here. Wood is just a deflection. The only question now is which 2 players will GP sell. sussexram40
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Tue 18 Dec 12

ballantrrae says...

Hovite wrote:
I think CMS and WH should start together again. WH found himself in a lot of good positions and should have got a hat trick but for the lack of game time. I think CMS can pull defenders to give him the space he finds himself in?

I think these two need more starts together just to give them time to gel.

I think Lopez will be in because Gus will want to see more of him and test him out. Although he had a slow start against Forrest he came into it. Needs match time like Hoskins.
My main worry tonight Hovite and VegasSeagull is whether Calde is fit enough to play tonight after the knock he received against Forest.
I hope Hosko starts tonight since he got into the right positions to score which is at least half of what is needed if we are going to win matches. I agree with your comment Hovite that Hosko demonstrated that he can potentially exploit the space CMS creates. Hopefully the same could apply in reverse ie as Hoskins becomes more tightly marked so space will be made for CMS.
I imagine Lopez will start as he seemed to come on to a game on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I think CMS and WH should start together again. WH found himself in a lot of good positions and should have got a hat trick but for the lack of game time. I think CMS can pull defenders to give him the space he finds himself in? I think these two need more starts together just to give them time to gel. I think Lopez will be in because Gus will want to see more of him and test him out. Although he had a slow start against Forrest he came into it. Needs match time like Hoskins.[/p][/quote]My main worry tonight Hovite and VegasSeagull is whether Calde is fit enough to play tonight after the knock he received against Forest. I hope Hosko starts tonight since he got into the right positions to score which is at least half of what is needed if we are going to win matches. I agree with your comment Hovite that Hosko demonstrated that he can potentially exploit the space CMS creates. Hopefully the same could apply in reverse ie as Hoskins becomes more tightly marked so space will be made for CMS. I imagine Lopez will start as he seemed to come on to a game on Saturday. ballantrrae
  • Score: 0

5:09pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Hovite says...

I think Calde will be alright but I guess we will have to see for sure.
I think Calde will be alright but I guess we will have to see for sure. Hovite
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Tue 18 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

My guess is that we start the same and if a change were to be made, then maybe Barnes for CMS.
I think that this is probably the only combination we have yet to try.
My guess is that we start the same and if a change were to be made, then maybe Barnes for CMS. I think that this is probably the only combination we have yet to try. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

11:00pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Freeloaders says...

Dunk the drunk was taken off after just 39 mins tonight.My friend is never wrong about players.The boy is a freeloader with know talent.Get him out the club asap.
Dunk the drunk was taken off after just 39 mins tonight.My friend is never wrong about players.The boy is a freeloader with know talent.Get him out the club asap. Freeloaders
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

Get Adobe Flash player
About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree