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Albion pair poised to sit out Toon tie

The Argus: Will Buckley. Injury will prevent last year's matchwinner against Newcastle from tackling the Toon again. Will Buckley. Injury will prevent last year's matchwinner against Newcastle from tackling the Toon again.

  Albion are likely to be without Bruno and Will Buckley again for Saturday's FA Cup tie at home to Newcastle.


  The right-back (Achilles) and right winger (hamstring) have yet to resume training.


  Buckley's late goal at The Amex knocked Newcastle out in the fourth round last year.


  Boss Gus Poyet has vowed to field the strongest side available to him in the quest for a repeat.


  He told The Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day.


  "This one is tricky because it is on TV against a Premiership team, so you cannot be silly and not play your best team. We are going to play with the best we have.


  "If Bruno is fit he will play. I'm not going to say it is maybe better to leave him until the week after. It is the same with Bucker but the problem is they are both not training today."


  Jake Forster-Caskey and Romain Vincelot have returned from their loan spells with Oxford and Gillingham respectively ahead of Newcastle's visit.


  Forster-Caskey, 18, was in the starting line-up against the Toon for last year's upset.


  Poyet said: "He is back and training with us today. We will have a nice chat. I got very nice phone calls from both managers of Oxford and Gillingham thanking us for the behaviour and professionalism of the players.


  "We will have a look at how much he has improved, how strong he is. I don't care about age, I only care about the performances, so we will look carefully at Jake and Romain as well."


  Meanwhile, Albion remain in negotiations with Matt Sparrow over a financial settlement on the six months left on his contract.

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11:39am Thu 3 Jan 13

raymondo999 says...

I feel like a puppet on a string. First argus says he's going to give unsung players a chance now he's saying he's going to field his strongest side. Who's playing silly b.....s? Good job this site is free, who'd pay for this excuse for news?
I feel like a puppet on a string. First argus says he's going to give unsung players a chance now he's saying he's going to field his strongest side. Who's playing silly b.....s? Good job this site is free, who'd pay for this excuse for news? raymondo999
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11:46am Thu 3 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

I just hope buckers is a hamstring and not a smoke screen,
you've got to play you're best eleven all the time they are available.
consistency its the key to success
UTA
I just hope buckers is a hamstring and not a smoke screen, you've got to play you're best eleven all the time they are available. consistency its the key to success UTA jockithenoo
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12:12pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Jake-Forster-Caskey-Peng says...

good to see jake back :-)
good to see jake back :-) Jake-Forster-Caskey-Peng
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12:18pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Well, fair enough. That's an unequivocal statement from Gus (for a change) and he will play his best available team. Excellent news.
Well, fair enough. That's an unequivocal statement from Gus (for a change) and he will play his best available team. Excellent news. Willie, Willie Irvine
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12:39pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Mr Know It All says...

no mention of v v v v v v vicente
no mention of v v v v v v vicente Mr Know It All
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12:41pm Thu 3 Jan 13

9 of us says...

I'm sure he will play his best starting 11.
I'd be right naffed off if he plays a weakened team as I feel I have paid a fully committed and well earned £28 to watch this game.
Only time will tell.

NOD!
I'm sure he will play his best starting 11. I'd be right naffed off if he plays a weakened team as I feel I have paid a fully committed and well earned £28 to watch this game. Only time will tell. NOD! 9 of us
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12:54pm Thu 3 Jan 13

amexarena says...

£67,500 to the 3rd round winners - plus live TV money £135,850 - plus share of the gate and all the commercial income - if I was Chief Exec I would be saying "**** right you're playing the best available team" and we'd like you in the FA Cup as long as possible please, especially against teams that might not be taking it all that seriously. Perhaps the price rises to the fans would be curbed if the team and the club maximise their potential.
£67,500 to the 3rd round winners - plus live TV money £135,850 - plus share of the gate and all the commercial income - if I was Chief Exec I would be saying "**** right you're playing the best available team" and we'd like you in the FA Cup as long as possible please, especially against teams that might not be taking it all that seriously. Perhaps the price rises to the fans would be curbed if the team and the club maximise their potential. amexarena
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12:56pm Thu 3 Jan 13

GosportGull says...

Good to see JFC back , hopefully he will be back in contention soon and training with the likes of Orlandi,Vicente and Lopez will improve him even more...Good to see Romain too ..always thought he was good enough just needs the chance..hopefully they are both fully fit and ready to get stuck in again and now we have defensive cover again...GG
Good to see JFC back , hopefully he will be back in contention soon and training with the likes of Orlandi,Vicente and Lopez will improve him even more...Good to see Romain too ..always thought he was good enough just needs the chance..hopefully they are both fully fit and ready to get stuck in again and now we have defensive cover again...GG GosportGull
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1:04pm Thu 3 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

9 of us wrote:
I'm sure he will play his best starting 11.
I'd be right naffed off if he plays a weakened team as I feel I have paid a fully committed and well earned £28 to watch this game.
Only time will tell.

NOD!
You only payed £28 FFS
I've been tortured £37 for my season seat best eleven and nothing less
UTA
[quote][p][bold]9 of us[/bold] wrote: I'm sure he will play his best starting 11. I'd be right naffed off if he plays a weakened team as I feel I have paid a fully committed and well earned £28 to watch this game. Only time will tell. NOD![/p][/quote]You only payed £28 FFS I've been tortured £37 for my season seat best eleven and nothing less UTA jockithenoo
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1:13pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Bushell says...

Unless Bruno and Buckley are 100% fit I would rather save them for the following league game as that would give them another week to recover and train and it would allow someone else to play 90 minutes. If Calde is fit 90 minutes would do him the world of godd as it would with Dicker as he has not had much game time recently. Possibly play Dunk for Adam and get Hoskins or Dobbie on from the start. Still a good strength team capable of beating Newcastle. Comments anyone !!
Unless Bruno and Buckley are 100% fit I would rather save them for the following league game as that would give them another week to recover and train and it would allow someone else to play 90 minutes. If Calde is fit 90 minutes would do him the world of godd as it would with Dicker as he has not had much game time recently. Possibly play Dunk for Adam and get Hoskins or Dobbie on from the start. Still a good strength team capable of beating Newcastle. Comments anyone !! Bushell
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1:27pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Charismatic Andrew says...

Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day."

...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'......

Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey,
Ashley Barnes
Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day." ...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'...... Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey, Ashley Barnes Charismatic Andrew
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1:38pm Thu 3 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Charismatic Andrew wrote:
Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day." ...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'...... Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey, Ashley Barnes
Ok so you have told us who he put out but you didn't tell us who he, should have put out so as to make your point.

.
[quote][p][bold]Charismatic Andrew[/bold] wrote: Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day." ...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'...... Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey, Ashley Barnes[/p][/quote]Ok so you have told us who he put out but you didn't tell us who he, should have put out so as to make your point. . VegasSeagull
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1:54pm Thu 3 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

Charismatic Andrew wrote:
Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day."

...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'......

Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey,
Ashley Barnes
If memory serves me right Poyet was having difficulty assembling a side for that Wrexham game since most players were either injured, suspended or ill.
Football being a perverse game having beaten Newcastle last year when they were riding high in the Premiership (4th or 5th) I wonder if we won't this year since they are right out of form.
It is unfortunate for the Albion that the only way Newcastle can salvage anything from this season is by having a good FA Cup run. As a result I think they will be even more focused on Saturday's game than might otherwise be the case.
I am not trying to be pessamistic just simply trying to lower expectations.
However one way or the other it should be a cracking cup tie. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Charismatic Andrew[/bold] wrote: Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day." ...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'...... Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey, Ashley Barnes[/p][/quote]If memory serves me right Poyet was having difficulty assembling a side for that Wrexham game since most players were either injured, suspended or ill. Football being a perverse game having beaten Newcastle last year when they were riding high in the Premiership (4th or 5th) I wonder if we won't this year since they are right out of form. It is unfortunate for the Albion that the only way Newcastle can salvage anything from this season is by having a good FA Cup run. As a result I think they will be even more focused on Saturday's game than might otherwise be the case. I am not trying to be pessamistic just simply trying to lower expectations. However one way or the other it should be a cracking cup tie. UTA ballantrrae
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1:55pm Thu 3 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

Charismatic Andrew wrote:
Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day."

...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'......

Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey,
Ashley Barnes
If memory serves me right Poyet was having difficulty assembling a side for that Wrexham game since most players were either injured, suspended or ill.
Football being a perverse game having beaten Newcastle last year when they were riding high in the Premiership (4th or 5th) I wonder if we won't this year since they are right out of form.
It is unfortunate for the Albion that the only way Newcastle can salvage anything from this season is by having a good FA Cup run. As a result I think they will be even more focused on Saturday's game than might otherwise be the case.
I am not trying to be pessamistic just simply trying to lower expectations.
However one way or the other it should be a cracking cup tie. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Charismatic Andrew[/bold] wrote: Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day." ...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'...... Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey, Ashley Barnes[/p][/quote]If memory serves me right Poyet was having difficulty assembling a side for that Wrexham game since most players were either injured, suspended or ill. Football being a perverse game having beaten Newcastle last year when they were riding high in the Premiership (4th or 5th) I wonder if we won't this year since they are right out of form. It is unfortunate for the Albion that the only way Newcastle can salvage anything from this season is by having a good FA Cup run. As a result I think they will be even more focused on Saturday's game than might otherwise be the case. I am not trying to be pessamistic just simply trying to lower expectations. However one way or the other it should be a cracking cup tie. UTA ballantrrae
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3:16pm Thu 3 Jan 13

SMF20 says...

Has anyone else noticed that fees on the whole for players being bought in have reduced significantly? I am of course talking across the board and not just about the Albion.
Reading have got a couple of decent guys in, both less than £1m, leicester buy in a proven 2 and again both cost less than £2m combined. Even a player of Ba's calibre can now be bought for £5m (£2m was a golden handshake.
There are of course always exceptions as teams like Chelsea and the 2 Manchester residents will testify, but on the whole fees are very much lower.
On the other side of the coin, it would appear that with fees dropping, to get your man wages have increased. Only a few years ago no one earned 100k a week. Now, there are dozens of them.
For me and my opinion things have changed and probably for the better, especially for clubs like ours where we are careful with what we spend.
Just an observation.
Uta
Has anyone else noticed that fees on the whole for players being bought in have reduced significantly? I am of course talking across the board and not just about the Albion. Reading have got a couple of decent guys in, both less than £1m, leicester buy in a proven 2 and again both cost less than £2m combined. Even a player of Ba's calibre can now be bought for £5m (£2m was a golden handshake. There are of course always exceptions as teams like Chelsea and the 2 Manchester residents will testify, but on the whole fees are very much lower. On the other side of the coin, it would appear that with fees dropping, to get your man wages have increased. Only a few years ago no one earned 100k a week. Now, there are dozens of them. For me and my opinion things have changed and probably for the better, especially for clubs like ours where we are careful with what we spend. Just an observation. Uta SMF20
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3:16pm Thu 3 Jan 13

sussexram40 says...

Rest the big guns. Make sure they're fit and fresh for the Derby game.
Rest the big guns. Make sure they're fit and fresh for the Derby game. sussexram40
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3:27pm Thu 3 Jan 13

namgo49 says...

Buckley keeping out of being cup tied?!!
Buckley keeping out of being cup tied?!! namgo49
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3:32pm Thu 3 Jan 13

championshipgull says...

jockithenoo wrote:
I just hope buckers is a hamstring and not a smoke screen,
you've got to play you're best eleven all the time they are available.
consistency its the key to success
UTA
If Buckley was left out of the squad for the Watford game because a deal had been done, as was the suspicion of many, He would have gone by now. #givesmehope. So I am concluding the hamstring is a genuine concern.
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: I just hope buckers is a hamstring and not a smoke screen, you've got to play you're best eleven all the time they are available. consistency its the key to success UTA[/p][/quote]If Buckley was left out of the squad for the Watford game because a deal had been done, as was the suspicion of many, He would have gone by now. #givesmehope. So I am concluding the hamstring is a genuine concern. championshipgull
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3:38pm Thu 3 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Day three of the window and all our gems are still intact, something to be happy about.

I suppose if we keep our players, minus a few on the fringe , we could be looking to only bring in two new signings, a striker and a CB.

My hope is for two strikers, I still think that one is not enough.
Day three of the window and all our gems are still intact, something to be happy about. I suppose if we keep our players, minus a few on the fringe , we could be looking to only bring in two new signings, a striker and a CB. My hope is for two strikers, I still think that one is not enough. VegasSeagull
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3:41pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Andrew, where is your charisma? this name is a complete contradiction to who you really are.

ballantrrae, I would have thought Newcastle will be more focused on their relegation battle.They had a tough game last night and lost to Everton. If anything they will be resting players.

There is no pressure on us, we have nothing to lose and no points are involved, unless you are Barnesy.

I think we will start the game the same as Ipswich with Bruno and Vicente on the bench instead of March and Dunk.

Not bothered about winning, I just want to see us put on a show, link up and perform.
Andrew, where is your charisma? this name is a complete contradiction to who you really are. ballantrrae, I would have thought Newcastle will be more focused on their relegation battle.They had a tough game last night and lost to Everton. If anything they will be resting players. There is no pressure on us, we have nothing to lose and no points are involved, unless you are Barnesy. I think we will start the game the same as Ipswich with Bruno and Vicente on the bench instead of March and Dunk. Not bothered about winning, I just want to see us put on a show, link up and perform. Hovite
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3:47pm Thu 3 Jan 13

saraman says...

jockithenoo wrote:
9 of us wrote: I'm sure he will play his best starting 11. I'd be right naffed off if he plays a weakened team as I feel I have paid a fully committed and well earned £28 to watch this game. Only time will tell. NOD!
You only payed £28 FFS I've been tortured £37 for my season seat best eleven and nothing less UTA
I paid £26, that was enough. League games cost me £16 per game on my season ticket. I'm happy with that.
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]9 of us[/bold] wrote: I'm sure he will play his best starting 11. I'd be right naffed off if he plays a weakened team as I feel I have paid a fully committed and well earned £28 to watch this game. Only time will tell. NOD![/p][/quote]You only payed £28 FFS I've been tortured £37 for my season seat best eleven and nothing less UTA[/p][/quote]I paid £26, that was enough. League games cost me £16 per game on my season ticket. I'm happy with that. saraman
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4:04pm Thu 3 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

championshipgull wrote:
jockithenoo wrote:
I just hope buckers is a hamstring and not a smoke screen,
you've got to play you're best eleven all the time they are available.
consistency its the key to success
UTA
If Buckley was left out of the squad for the Watford game because a deal had been done, as was the suspicion of many, He would have gone by now. #givesmehope. So I am concluding the hamstring is a genuine concern.
I sincerely hope so
UTA
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: I just hope buckers is a hamstring and not a smoke screen, you've got to play you're best eleven all the time they are available. consistency its the key to success UTA[/p][/quote]If Buckley was left out of the squad for the Watford game because a deal had been done, as was the suspicion of many, He would have gone by now. #givesmehope. So I am concluding the hamstring is a genuine concern.[/p][/quote]I sincerely hope so UTA jockithenoo
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4:11pm Thu 3 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

Hovite wrote:
Andrew, where is your charisma? this name is a complete contradiction to who you really are.

ballantrrae, I would have thought Newcastle will be more focused on their relegation battle.They had a tough game last night and lost to Everton. If anything they will be resting players.

There is no pressure on us, we have nothing to lose and no points are involved, unless you are Barnesy.

I think we will start the game the same as Ipswich with Bruno and Vicente on the bench instead of March and Dunk.

Not bothered about winning, I just want to see us put on a show, link up and perform.
Your point taken Hovite, I just feel Newcastle are too good a side to be relegated. However they obviously will be concerned with their league position.
Hopefully, as you say and I mentioned in my post, it will be a really good cup tie.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Andrew, where is your charisma? this name is a complete contradiction to who you really are. ballantrrae, I would have thought Newcastle will be more focused on their relegation battle.They had a tough game last night and lost to Everton. If anything they will be resting players. There is no pressure on us, we have nothing to lose and no points are involved, unless you are Barnesy. I think we will start the game the same as Ipswich with Bruno and Vicente on the bench instead of March and Dunk. Not bothered about winning, I just want to see us put on a show, link up and perform.[/p][/quote]Your point taken Hovite, I just feel Newcastle are too good a side to be relegated. However they obviously will be concerned with their league position. Hopefully, as you say and I mentioned in my post, it will be a really good cup tie. ballantrrae
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4:16pm Thu 3 Jan 13

championshipgull says...

SMF20 wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that fees on the whole for players being bought in have reduced significantly? I am of course talking across the board and not just about the Albion.
Reading have got a couple of decent guys in, both less than £1m, leicester buy in a proven 2 and again both cost less than £2m combined. Even a player of Ba's calibre can now be bought for £5m (£2m was a golden handshake.
There are of course always exceptions as teams like Chelsea and the 2 Manchester residents will testify, but on the whole fees are very much lower.
On the other side of the coin, it would appear that with fees dropping, to get your man wages have increased. Only a few years ago no one earned 100k a week. Now, there are dozens of them.
For me and my opinion things have changed and probably for the better, especially for clubs like ours where we are careful with what we spend.
Just an observation.
Uta
I think you are right, the balance is going toward wages, especially with more players seeing out their contracts to get a better deal for themselves, and in turn clubs not wanting to commit to long contracts with high wages. So you end up with higher wages, shorter contracts and lower transfer fees.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Has anyone else noticed that fees on the whole for players being bought in have reduced significantly? I am of course talking across the board and not just about the Albion. Reading have got a couple of decent guys in, both less than £1m, leicester buy in a proven 2 and again both cost less than £2m combined. Even a player of Ba's calibre can now be bought for £5m (£2m was a golden handshake. There are of course always exceptions as teams like Chelsea and the 2 Manchester residents will testify, but on the whole fees are very much lower. On the other side of the coin, it would appear that with fees dropping, to get your man wages have increased. Only a few years ago no one earned 100k a week. Now, there are dozens of them. For me and my opinion things have changed and probably for the better, especially for clubs like ours where we are careful with what we spend. Just an observation. Uta[/p][/quote]I think you are right, the balance is going toward wages, especially with more players seeing out their contracts to get a better deal for themselves, and in turn clubs not wanting to commit to long contracts with high wages. So you end up with higher wages, shorter contracts and lower transfer fees. championshipgull
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4:49pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Yep SMF20, even the over inflated wages the players will decrease as their contracts start ending over the next few years. I don’t think Bridge will be on £90k a week again and who could realistically afford more than 20k a week. QPR are spending masses and their owners will never get it back again.

Rooney is on £200k a week and that’s way over the point where I would be insulted if I were a Man U fan. He is not £185k better than CMS and CMS would probably do just as well in a Man U side.

We will have a state of the art computer model working years in advance which takes into account a predicted down turn in players cost and wages, paying back the £100 mill loan for the Amex plus the running of it, including a promotion budget. All we do is program in multiple plans and the computer spits out the various data scenarios, and then Tony just decides which hand to play. Everything is a calculated risk from the top to the bottom of this club.

If we contract a player now, on £45k a week for 3 years it would cost £7 million, and we could probably get the same or better player for half the costs next year.
Yep SMF20, even the over inflated wages the players will decrease as their contracts start ending over the next few years. I don’t think Bridge will be on £90k a week again and who could realistically afford more than 20k a week. QPR are spending masses and their owners will never get it back again. Rooney is on £200k a week and that’s way over the point where I would be insulted if I were a Man U fan. He is not £185k better than CMS and CMS would probably do just as well in a Man U side. We will have a state of the art computer model working years in advance which takes into account a predicted down turn in players cost and wages, paying back the £100 mill loan for the Amex plus the running of it, including a promotion budget. All we do is program in multiple plans and the computer spits out the various data scenarios, and then Tony just decides which hand to play. Everything is a calculated risk from the top to the bottom of this club. If we contract a player now, on £45k a week for 3 years it would cost £7 million, and we could probably get the same or better player for half the costs next year. Hovite
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5:19pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.
LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own. Freeloaders
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5:29pm Thu 3 Jan 13

LACHANCE says...

raymondo999 wrote:
I feel like a puppet on a string. First argus says he's going to give unsung players a chance now he's saying he's going to field his strongest side. Who's playing silly b.....s? Good job this site is free, who'd pay for this excuse for news?
Naylor has got to earn his wages some how.
[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: I feel like a puppet on a string. First argus says he's going to give unsung players a chance now he's saying he's going to field his strongest side. Who's playing silly b.....s? Good job this site is free, who'd pay for this excuse for news?[/p][/quote]Naylor has got to earn his wages some how. LACHANCE
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5:47pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Freeloaders wrote:
LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.
In a Man U side playing alongside top players he would do well.

Rooney was like a girl in the World Cup and his form is up and down and only has 8 this season.

So what you are saying is, is that Rooney is £185k a week more value than CMS?

You are a back end of a donkey, but it is panto season.
[quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.[/p][/quote]In a Man U side playing alongside top players he would do well. Rooney was like a girl in the World Cup and his form is up and down and only has 8 this season. So what you are saying is, is that Rooney is £185k a week more value than CMS? You are a back end of a donkey, but it is panto season. Hovite
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5:58pm Thu 3 Jan 13

sussexram40 says...

Yes it's tough on the season ticket holders who fork out big money to watch the seagulls finest, but I'd like to see Gus give a run out to a few 'unknowns' against the toon army. Yes we will lose but the priority has to be edging up the championship table and we need all our top men fit and fresh for that.
Yes it's tough on the season ticket holders who fork out big money to watch the seagulls finest, but I'd like to see Gus give a run out to a few 'unknowns' against the toon army. Yes we will lose but the priority has to be edging up the championship table and we need all our top men fit and fresh for that. sussexram40
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6:03pm Thu 3 Jan 13

golddene says...

jockithenoo wrote:
9 of us wrote:
I'm sure he will play his best starting 11.
I'd be right naffed off if he plays a weakened team as I feel I have paid a fully committed and well earned £28 to watch this game.
Only time will tell.

NOD!
You only payed £28 FFS
I've been tortured £37 for my season seat best eleven and nothing less
UTA
£41 cause I'm too lazy to get to their shops just a good determined display is enough for me my support is unconditional. SEAGULLS
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]9 of us[/bold] wrote: I'm sure he will play his best starting 11. I'd be right naffed off if he plays a weakened team as I feel I have paid a fully committed and well earned £28 to watch this game. Only time will tell. NOD![/p][/quote]You only payed £28 FFS I've been tortured £37 for my season seat best eleven and nothing less UTA[/p][/quote]£41 cause I'm too lazy to get to their shops just a good determined display is enough for me my support is unconditional. SEAGULLS golddene
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6:03pm Thu 3 Jan 13

championshipgull says...

I just like to say IMHO as are all my theories. Its ok to change 2 or 3 players in a team, but its when managers change 4 or 5 or more that things seem to go Pete Tong.
I just like to say IMHO as are all my theories. Its ok to change 2 or 3 players in a team, but its when managers change 4 or 5 or more that things seem to go Pete Tong. championshipgull
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6:06pm Thu 3 Jan 13

golddene says...

Charismatic Andrew wrote:
Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day."

...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'......

Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey,
Ashley Barnes
Should have easily been good enough to see off a non league team at home so what is your point ?
[quote][p][bold]Charismatic Andrew[/bold] wrote: Gus Poyet said told the Argus: "Apart from when we were in League One and convinced the only thing that mattered was getting up, in the rest of the years we were fair with the cups. We played the best team on the day." ...... Rubbish!!!! ..... this was the line-up against non-League Wrexham in the 3rd Round last year .....who only earned a draw which resulted in a replay which we ended up winning on penalties.... this was nowhere near our 'best side'...... Peter Brezovan, Grant Hall, Romain Vincelot, Íñigo Calderón, Ben Sampayo, Alan Navarro (Yaser Kasim, 63), Kazenga Lua Lua (Torbjorn Agdestein, 53), Matthew Sparrow, William Buckley (Anton Rodgers, 63), Jake Forster-Caskey, Ashley Barnes[/p][/quote]Should have easily been good enough to see off a non league team at home so what is your point ? golddene
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7:28pm Thu 3 Jan 13

hannover seagull says...

Just got my ticket confirmed, only my third game this season due to distance etc
Can´t wait to see what Gus sends out after all the huffing and puffing

UTA.................
.....
Just got my ticket confirmed, only my third game this season due to distance etc Can´t wait to see what Gus sends out after all the huffing and puffing UTA................. ..... hannover seagull
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7:40pm Thu 3 Jan 13

SMF20 says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Just got my ticket confirmed, only my third game this season due to distance etc
Can´t wait to see what Gus sends out after all the huffing and puffing

UTA.................

.....
My hat is off to you my friend.

Enjoy the game.... I sincerely hope we give a performance to match your commitment.

Uta
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Just got my ticket confirmed, only my third game this season due to distance etc Can´t wait to see what Gus sends out after all the huffing and puffing UTA................. .....[/p][/quote]My hat is off to you my friend. Enjoy the game.... I sincerely hope we give a performance to match your commitment. Uta SMF20
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7:49pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Far gull says...

Hovite wrote:
Yep SMF20, even the over inflated wages the players will decrease as their contracts start ending over the next few years. I don’t think Bridge will be on £90k a week again and who could realistically afford more than 20k a week. QPR are spending masses and their owners will never get it back again.

Rooney is on £200k a week and that’s way over the point where I would be insulted if I were a Man U fan. He is not £185k better than CMS and CMS would probably do just as well in a Man U side.

We will have a state of the art computer model working years in advance which takes into account a predicted down turn in players cost and wages, paying back the £100 mill loan for the Amex plus the running of it, including a promotion budget. All we do is program in multiple plans and the computer spits out the various data scenarios, and then Tony just decides which hand to play. Everything is a calculated risk from the top to the bottom of this club.

If we contract a player now, on £45k a week for 3 years it would cost £7 million, and we could probably get the same or better player for half the costs next year.
Top post of the day.IMHO
Reality is about to hit hm in football with regard to transfer fees.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Yep SMF20, even the over inflated wages the players will decrease as their contracts start ending over the next few years. I don’t think Bridge will be on £90k a week again and who could realistically afford more than 20k a week. QPR are spending masses and their owners will never get it back again. Rooney is on £200k a week and that’s way over the point where I would be insulted if I were a Man U fan. He is not £185k better than CMS and CMS would probably do just as well in a Man U side. We will have a state of the art computer model working years in advance which takes into account a predicted down turn in players cost and wages, paying back the £100 mill loan for the Amex plus the running of it, including a promotion budget. All we do is program in multiple plans and the computer spits out the various data scenarios, and then Tony just decides which hand to play. Everything is a calculated risk from the top to the bottom of this club. If we contract a player now, on £45k a week for 3 years it would cost £7 million, and we could probably get the same or better player for half the costs next year.[/p][/quote]Top post of the day.IMHO Reality is about to hit hm in football with regard to transfer fees. Far gull
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9:27pm Thu 3 Jan 13

hannover seagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Just got my ticket confirmed, only my third game this season due to distance etc
Can´t wait to see what Gus sends out after all the huffing and puffing

UTA.................


.....
My hat is off to you my friend.

Enjoy the game.... I sincerely hope we give a performance to match your commitment.

Uta
Thanks mate

I will enjoy the day whatever the result

UTA........
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Just got my ticket confirmed, only my third game this season due to distance etc Can´t wait to see what Gus sends out after all the huffing and puffing UTA................. .....[/p][/quote]My hat is off to you my friend. Enjoy the game.... I sincerely hope we give a performance to match your commitment. Uta[/p][/quote]Thanks mate I will enjoy the day whatever the result UTA........ hannover seagull
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10:41pm Thu 3 Jan 13

brightonup says...

Hovite wrote:
Freeloaders wrote:
LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.
In a Man U side playing alongside top players he would do well.

Rooney was like a girl in the World Cup and his form is up and down and only has 8 this season.

So what you are saying is, is that Rooney is £185k a week more value than CMS?

You are a back end of a donkey, but it is panto season.
Absolutely right Hovite - he's an unfunny joke.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.[/p][/quote]In a Man U side playing alongside top players he would do well. Rooney was like a girl in the World Cup and his form is up and down and only has 8 this season. So what you are saying is, is that Rooney is £185k a week more value than CMS? You are a back end of a donkey, but it is panto season.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right Hovite - he's an unfunny joke. brightonup
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11:49pm Thu 3 Jan 13

KeefyH44 says...

Bushell wrote:
Unless Bruno and Buckley are 100% fit I would rather save them for the following league game as that would give them another week to recover and train and it would allow someone else to play 90 minutes. If Calde is fit 90 minutes would do him the world of godd as it would with Dicker as he has not had much game time recently. Possibly play Dunk for Adam and get Hoskins or Dobbie on from the start. Still a good strength team capable of beating Newcastle. Comments anyone !!
I hope Dunk doesn't play. Showed great promise but hasn't lived up to it. He was responsible in great part for last year's debacle against Liverpool.Gets a rush of blood, or loses focus and is either sent off or gives away a free kick or we concede a goal. I was a big fan once but now he fills me with trepidation.
[quote][p][bold]Bushell[/bold] wrote: Unless Bruno and Buckley are 100% fit I would rather save them for the following league game as that would give them another week to recover and train and it would allow someone else to play 90 minutes. If Calde is fit 90 minutes would do him the world of godd as it would with Dicker as he has not had much game time recently. Possibly play Dunk for Adam and get Hoskins or Dobbie on from the start. Still a good strength team capable of beating Newcastle. Comments anyone !![/p][/quote]I hope Dunk doesn't play. Showed great promise but hasn't lived up to it. He was responsible in great part for last year's debacle against Liverpool.Gets a rush of blood, or loses focus and is either sent off or gives away a free kick or we concede a goal. I was a big fan once but now he fills me with trepidation. KeefyH44
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2:48pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

brightonup wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Freeloaders wrote:
LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.
In a Man U side playing alongside top players he would do well.

Rooney was like a girl in the World Cup and his form is up and down and only has 8 this season.

So what you are saying is, is that Rooney is £185k a week more value than CMS?

You are a back end of a donkey, but it is panto season.
Absolutely right Hovite - he's an unfunny joke.
Go back to your sad little life behind your desk.You are only brave on here you sad little girl.You must have about three different post names on here you sad little man.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.[/p][/quote]In a Man U side playing alongside top players he would do well. Rooney was like a girl in the World Cup and his form is up and down and only has 8 this season. So what you are saying is, is that Rooney is £185k a week more value than CMS? You are a back end of a donkey, but it is panto season.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right Hovite - he's an unfunny joke.[/p][/quote]Go back to your sad little life behind your desk.You are only brave on here you sad little girl.You must have about three different post names on here you sad little man. Freeloaders
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2:49pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

KeefyH44 wrote:
Bushell wrote:
Unless Bruno and Buckley are 100% fit I would rather save them for the following league game as that would give them another week to recover and train and it would allow someone else to play 90 minutes. If Calde is fit 90 minutes would do him the world of godd as it would with Dicker as he has not had much game time recently. Possibly play Dunk for Adam and get Hoskins or Dobbie on from the start. Still a good strength team capable of beating Newcastle. Comments anyone !!
I hope Dunk doesn't play. Showed great promise but hasn't lived up to it. He was responsible in great part for last year's debacle against Liverpool.Gets a rush of blood, or loses focus and is either sent off or gives away a free kick or we concede a goal. I was a big fan once but now he fills me with trepidation.
Top post.Yet another fan with his own brain.
[quote][p][bold]KeefyH44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bushell[/bold] wrote: Unless Bruno and Buckley are 100% fit I would rather save them for the following league game as that would give them another week to recover and train and it would allow someone else to play 90 minutes. If Calde is fit 90 minutes would do him the world of godd as it would with Dicker as he has not had much game time recently. Possibly play Dunk for Adam and get Hoskins or Dobbie on from the start. Still a good strength team capable of beating Newcastle. Comments anyone !![/p][/quote]I hope Dunk doesn't play. Showed great promise but hasn't lived up to it. He was responsible in great part for last year's debacle against Liverpool.Gets a rush of blood, or loses focus and is either sent off or gives away a free kick or we concede a goal. I was a big fan once but now he fills me with trepidation.[/p][/quote]Top post.Yet another fan with his own brain. Freeloaders
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3:32pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Freeloaders wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Freeloaders wrote:
LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.
In a Man U side playing alongside top players he would do well.

Rooney was like a girl in the World Cup and his form is up and down and only has 8 this season.

So what you are saying is, is that Rooney is £185k a week more value than CMS?

You are a back end of a donkey, but it is panto season.
Absolutely right Hovite - he's an unfunny joke.
Go back to your sad little life behind your desk.You are only brave on here you sad little girl.You must have about three different post names on here you sad little man.
Funny that coz you weren't that brave last night was ya, and no I'm not brightonup, I don't need multi usernames like you do you donkey!
[quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: LOL out of this world.So CMS is up there with Rooney & would do just as well in a MUFC side.Is he up there with Van Persie Hovite lol.Please have you ever really been to a football match.You must be about 12 or in a world of your own.[/p][/quote]In a Man U side playing alongside top players he would do well. Rooney was like a girl in the World Cup and his form is up and down and only has 8 this season. So what you are saying is, is that Rooney is £185k a week more value than CMS? You are a back end of a donkey, but it is panto season.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right Hovite - he's an unfunny joke.[/p][/quote]Go back to your sad little life behind your desk.You are only brave on here you sad little girl.You must have about three different post names on here you sad little man.[/p][/quote]Funny that coz you weren't that brave last night was ya, and no I'm not brightonup, I don't need multi usernames like you do you donkey! Hovite
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