Albion days away from Ulloa deal (From The Argus)
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Albion days away from Ulloa deal
11:45am Friday 4th January 2013 in Albion Exclusive By Andy Naylor
Leonardo Ulloa (carrying white boots) is still working with Almeria - but for how much longer?
Albion could be "days away" from clinching the capture of Argentinian striker Leonardo Ulloa from Spanish Second Division club Almeria.
The Seagulls head the queue for Ulloa's signature but they are still waiting for the £1.6 million rated 26-year-old to secure a Spanish passport to allow him to play in England.
Alberto Benito, Almeria's sports manager, revealed to The Argus: "The situation at the moment is that to play in England Leonardo needs a Spanish passport.
"At this moment we are doing the permit and we think in a few days he will have the passport.
"When he receives the passport Brighton is a possibility for him.
"I cannot talk about the price. We have received a lot of offers for him after he scored around 30 goals last season but we wanted him to stay here to get us up to the First Division.
"He wants to join another team and Brighton are very interested in him. Ulloa is very happy with the situation with Brighton but without the passport it's impossible."
Meanwhile, Albion are poised to add Latvian international under 21 centre half Vitalijs Maksimenko from Skonta Riga to their development squad.
Comments(62)
albionwarrior
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12:00pm Fri 4 Jan 13
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Vitalijs-Maksimenko
looks like a good deal
Willie, Willie Irvine
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12:03pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Hovite
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12:05pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Good spot Yogi and AW
MelsTels
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12:07pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Where oh where do they find these people?
But, I have trust in all those involved, and look forward to them playing
Premiership, watch out - Seagulls are a'coming !!
Seagullkid
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12:11pm Fri 4 Jan 13
MelsTels wrote:yes maybe a great signing,scored 28 goals last season but has not played this season? do we need another sick note?
Out with the books again - to find out more about this player
Where oh where do they find these people?
But, I have trust in all those involved, and look forward to them playing
Premiership, watch out - Seagulls are a'coming !!
Yogi
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12:21pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Yo Yawl !!!!!!
dave from bexill
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12:22pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Ryecroft
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12:25pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Bish May Turn
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12:27pm Fri 4 Jan 13
dave from bexill wrote:Yeh, what a miserable F...er he is, Crawly Kid would be more appropriate!
Seagullkid, you're not an half empty kind of guy, more totally empty. If money is exchanging hands in this deal, as in any deal, then both the medics and the insurance companies will all is ok.
Bob!
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12:41pm Fri 4 Jan 13
albionwarrior wrote:Taxi for Painter then?
http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 12691/8379656/Bright on-have-agreed-a-dea l-for-highly-rated-L atvia-international- Vitalijs-Maksimenko looks like a good deal
Albion23
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12:48pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Albion23
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12:50pm Fri 4 Jan 13
VegasSeagull
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1:04pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Far gull
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1:17pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Maybe the cure was in the of field antics for him(alledgedly!).
This also begins to look like Gus will be around for awhile yet ,as i suggested a week ago this could be a defining week for the "project" for the next year as well, regardless of where we finish this season.
perhaps the team can settle a bit now and push on for the rest of the season knowing everything behind the scene`s still forward looking.
VegasSeagull
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1:18pm Fri 4 Jan 13
The line that caught my attention, and relates to what the signing of Roberts meant to Reading, it reads, and I quote 'if you can bring in that kind of player you have a great chance. For us at the moment it is not possible, but I am trying to convince the chairman,' end qoute.
This would suggest that Mr. Bloom is keeping a very tight grip on the purse strings. This might suggest that some of those that we, the fans, would like to sign are just too expensive.
StillHateBellotti
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1:27pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Tommy from the Amex
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1:28pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Seagullkid wrote:So negative ! Bet you thought the world was ending last week as well ?
MelsTels wrote:yes maybe a great signing,scored 28 goals last season but has not played this season? do we need another sick note?
Out with the books again - to find out more about this player
Where oh where do they find these people?
But, I have trust in all those involved, and look forward to them playing
Premiership, watch out - Seagulls are a'coming !!
Dr Baldhead
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1:37pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Albion23 wrote:It appeared overnight. Case of someone jumping the gun. Sounds like it's gonna happen, but let's at least wait until the inks dry...
Very strange!! On Wikapedia if you look under clubs played for it states current club B H A. A bit previous or do they know something we dont?w
JollyRoger
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1:39pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:As you say - this is Spain, which tends to mean that anything you would like to be done quickly will take 10 times longer than you think it should take.
This is Spain - the passport thing will simply come down to how much needs to change hands behind closed doors!
If he is to be the striker we need and want then let's hope it goes through quickly.
Mañana.
VegasSeagull
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1:44pm Fri 4 Jan 13
mikeygit
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2:09pm Fri 4 Jan 13
VegasSeagull
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2:15pm Fri 4 Jan 13
It looks like we have a new striker and a new versatile defender, are we done?
I would like to see a second striker arrive, even if it's only a loan deal. God forbid that Ulloa gets injured but if he does, we are back to square one.
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sussexram40
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2:34pm Fri 4 Jan 13
We already have a lot of foreigners including a certain spaniard we never see.
Seagullkid
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2:35pm Fri 4 Jan 13
dave from bexill wrote:was reading the facts about the player that's all just wondering why he has not played!
Seagullkid, you're not an half empty kind of guy, more totally empty. If money is exchanging hands in this deal, as in any deal, then both the medics and the insurance companies will all is ok.
if that makes me half empty what does it make you?
Seagullkid
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2:39pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Bish May Turn wrote:no I got a life, if you like Crawley that much go and f***ing live there!
dave from bexill wrote:Yeh, what a miserable F...er he is, Crawly Kid would be more appropriate!
Seagullkid, you're not an half empty kind of guy, more totally empty. If money is exchanging hands in this deal, as in any deal, then both the medics and the insurance companies will all is ok.
Bob!
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2:56pm Fri 4 Jan 13
sussexram40 wrote:Because 'English Stars' of similar calibre cost a lot more in transfer fees & wages.
Why do we have to sign foreigners we've never heard of. I want to see big name English stars not unknown 2nd division foreign players who are untried in the English league. We already have a lot of foreigners including a certain spaniard we never see.
We have a budget.
VegasSeagull
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2:58pm Fri 4 Jan 13
sussexram40 wrote:I think the answer is money. If you and I, 'know,' the players then the chances are the price will be too high for our budget.
Why do we have to sign foreigners we've never heard of. I want to see big name English stars not unknown 2nd division foreign players who are untried in the English league. We already have a lot of foreigners including a certain spaniard we never see.
I think it true to say that just because we the fans don't, 'know,' them, it does not mean that the footballing world doesn't know them. The Lativian lad, it is reported, has been tracked by many clubs, including prem clubs.
I think you would agree that so long as the lads help us get results, who cares who they are. Let's hope that in a few months time everybody in England will know their names.
DESLYNHAMSMOUSTACHE
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3:29pm Fri 4 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Got the feeling Ulloa is the supporting act/gamble in more ways than one.Well known big name striker to sign latter.
Mikey, according to reports the young Latvian lad has been on the radar of prem clubs and others, this kid could be a real find. Time will tell.
It looks like we have a new striker and a new versatile defender, are we done?
I would like to see a second striker arrive, even if it's only a loan deal. God forbid that Ulloa gets injured but if he does, we are back to square one.
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VegasSeagull
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4:03pm Fri 4 Jan 13
The two we think are coming in are probably coming at a cost of about 3 million, maybe more, plus wages. With no one of note leaving that is all new spending, would we have another 4 or 5 million to spend without selling?
A loan deal for a, 'name,' that's possible I guess. Looking at the targets we seem to have aquired my thinking is another of similar ilk, if indeed a second striker is coming.
mikeygit
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4:04pm Fri 4 Jan 13
1 Gus & Co would have done their homework
2 If they do the job for us--it does not matter whether we know them now or not--we will SOON know them and everyone else.
We have to trust that the backroom boys know what they are doing. Cannot wait!!!
Alfie T
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4:18pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Seagullkid wrote:Don't think Bish has mentioned liking Crawley at all, read the posts before commenting.
Bish May Turn wrote:no I got a life, if you like Crawley that much go and f***ing live there!
dave from bexill wrote:Yeh, what a miserable F...er he is, Crawly Kid would be more appropriate!
Seagullkid, you're not an half empty kind of guy, more totally empty. If money is exchanging hands in this deal, as in any deal, then both the medics and the insurance companies will all is ok.
Claude Back
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4:21pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Will he be bringing the painting of the Madonna with the big boobies with him?
VegasSeagull
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4:32pm Fri 4 Jan 13
namgo49
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4:35pm Fri 4 Jan 13
We shall just have to see how it all pans out.
I hope the lad from Spain doesn't cost too much as it does all look a bit strange to me. If he was really any good at all surely a Spanish Primera side would have signed him? But then again with their economy have any of them got any money!! Hopefully performance related fee structure
He will need to improve his fitness though I bet you!!
kentseagull
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4:44pm Fri 4 Jan 13
graham w
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4:46pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Alfie T
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4:47pm Fri 4 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:I think Dunk has had some bad press on here, it wasn't long ago that a number of Premiership clubs were monitoring his progress. I would be disappointed to see him go without a real quality replacement. Greer for me has been average this season, and I had Dunk as his natural successor. We've already lost Hall, Cook & Elphick the latter div 1 at best. I hope the club offer him another deal, I think he has talent.
So Dunk is being looked at by Bristol City and Blackburn Rovers. Sky Sports reports that the interest is there and that the fee will be small.
Freeloaders
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4:48pm Fri 4 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Not always wrong am i Vagas lol.
So Dunk is being looked at by Bristol City and Blackburn Rovers. Sky Sports reports that the interest is there and that the fee will be small.
VegasSeagull
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4:59pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Freeloaders wrote:Not sure what you mean Freeloader. Many of us on here were thinking that Dunk would go, so if that's what you mean, then you, along with us, were right.
VegasSeagull wrote: So Dunk is being looked at by Bristol City and Blackburn Rovers. Sky Sports reports that the interest is there and that the fee will be small.Not always wrong am i Vagas lol.
Freeloaders
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5:00pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Alfie T wrote:Rubbish he has very little talent.Its Brighton trying to get this deal done.If Poyet thought he was any good he would play him every week.Note the story on Sky,the fee will be small.I think the anser is in that.The club is just trying its best to get some of these guys off the wage bill.Because believe me players like Dunk will never move this club forward.I for one will be very happy to see the back of players like this.As its a big sign of where Albion wish to be in the future.Happy days.
VegasSeagull wrote:I think Dunk has had some bad press on here, it wasn't long ago that a number of Premiership clubs were monitoring his progress. I would be disappointed to see him go without a real quality replacement. Greer for me has been average this season, and I had Dunk as his natural successor. We've already lost Hall, Cook & Elphick the latter div 1 at best. I hope the club offer him another deal, I think he has talent.
So Dunk is being looked at by Bristol City and Blackburn Rovers. Sky Sports reports that the interest is there and that the fee will be small.
SMF20
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5:04pm Fri 4 Jan 13
I think both will be very useful to have in the 1st team squad. I know The Argus have mentioned him linking up with the development squad but I personally would hope that at the age of 22 he is ready for 1st team action.
On the Dunk front... IMHO it would be a travesty to move him on at the moment, he is far better than his current forms shows and this is due to off field situations and not football one. Just look at Lua Lua now. Dunk is premiership quality potentially, keep the lad and give him a chance to shine again.
Willie, Willie Irvine
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5:10pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Claude Back wrote:Back in your box...
Ulloa, Ulloa. What's all this then? I will say this only once. Will he be bringing the painting of the Madonna with the big boobies with him?
Freeloaders
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5:16pm Fri 4 Jan 13
SMF20 wrote:Name the clubs & scouts that think this guy is premiership quality then lol.Prem league players don't go for a small fee lol.Not even top championship clubs after the guy.Even these two clubs don't wish to pay much money for him.
Potentially great news about Ulloa and the young Latvian lad.
I think both will be very useful to have in the 1st team squad. I know The Argus have mentioned him linking up with the development squad but I personally would hope that at the age of 22 he is ready for 1st team action.
On the Dunk front... IMHO it would be a travesty to move him on at the moment, he is far better than his current forms shows and this is due to off field situations and not football one. Just look at Lua Lua now. Dunk is premiership quality potentially, keep the lad and give him a chance to shine again.
mark by the sea
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5:23pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Freeloaders wrote:Dunk wants away, Gus don't want him, legend in his own head. Funky sort your life out
SMF20 wrote:Name the clubs & scouts that think this guy is premiership quality then lol.Prem league players don't go for a small fee lol.Not even top championship clubs after the guy.Even these two clubs don't wish to pay much money for him.
Potentially great news about Ulloa and the young Latvian lad.
I think both will be very useful to have in the 1st team squad. I know The Argus have mentioned him linking up with the development squad but I personally would hope that at the age of 22 he is ready for 1st team action.
On the Dunk front... IMHO it would be a travesty to move him on at the moment, he is far better than his current forms shows and this is due to off field situations and not football one. Just look at Lua Lua now. Dunk is premiership quality potentially, keep the lad and give him a chance to shine again.
VegasSeagull
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5:28pm Fri 4 Jan 13
SMF20 wrote:SMF20 I find myself with Freeloader with regards to Dunk, but he and I may differ in how we convey our thoughts.
Potentially great news about Ulloa and the young Latvian lad. I think both will be very useful to have in the 1st team squad. I know The Argus have mentioned him linking up with the development squad but I personally would hope that at the age of 22 he is ready for 1st team action. On the Dunk front... IMHO it would be a travesty to move him on at the moment, he is far better than his current forms shows and this is due to off field situations and not football one. Just look at Lua Lua now. Dunk is premiership quality potentially, keep the lad and give him a chance to shine again.
Dunk might turn out to be special, he might. If he does and those days arrive with another club then good for them and him.
I don't see Dunk as a great prospect, yes last year he started the season well, but so did many other players in the squad. The lad is still young and he clearly has some footballing faults, I am just not sure that we need to spend the money teaching him.
I think it fair to say that the set up at Arsenal is probably the best in the country when it comes to evaluating young talent. It would appear that Arsenal have lost their one time interest in Dunk.
The fee he goes for will reflect the value he brings to our squad and this year I am afraid his value has slipped. I hope he goes on to have a great career but right now, we need a more polished defender.
Alfie T
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5:31pm Fri 4 Jan 13
mark by the sea wrote:Yeh, great idea, where is the cover then? He's been off key since the subject we are not supposed to mention, if you remember before then he was performing brilliantly. What is more concerning is our lack of pace at centre back, the Watford striker was two yards behind El-abd and left him for dead, Greer has no pace either. It's an area of weakness that needs sorting, and selling Dunk for peanuts is not a smart move.
Freeloaders wrote:Dunk wants away, Gus don't want him, legend in his own head. Funky sort your life out
SMF20 wrote:Name the clubs & scouts that think this guy is premiership quality then lol.Prem league players don't go for a small fee lol.Not even top championship clubs after the guy.Even these two clubs don't wish to pay much money for him.
Potentially great news about Ulloa and the young Latvian lad.
I think both will be very useful to have in the 1st team squad. I know The Argus have mentioned him linking up with the development squad but I personally would hope that at the age of 22 he is ready for 1st team action.
On the Dunk front... IMHO it would be a travesty to move him on at the moment, he is far better than his current forms shows and this is due to off field situations and not football one. Just look at Lua Lua now. Dunk is premiership quality potentially, keep the lad and give him a chance to shine again.
SMF20
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5:39pm Fri 4 Jan 13
mark by the sea wrote:If this is true Mark then absolutely, a move should happen and Dunk should be sold on.
Freeloaders wrote:Dunk wants away, Gus don't want him, legend in his own head. Funky sort your life out
SMF20 wrote:Name the clubs & scouts that think this guy is premiership quality then lol.Prem league players don't go for a small fee lol.Not even top championship clubs after the guy.Even these two clubs don't wish to pay much money for him.
Potentially great news about Ulloa and the young Latvian lad.
I think both will be very useful to have in the 1st team squad. I know The Argus have mentioned him linking up with the development squad but I personally would hope that at the age of 22 he is ready for 1st team action.
On the Dunk front... IMHO it would be a travesty to move him on at the moment, he is far better than his current forms shows and this is due to off field situations and not football one. Just look at Lua Lua now. Dunk is premiership quality potentially, keep the lad and give him a chance to shine again.
I've just a feeling he will come good again once all of his off the field problem disappears though.
He may have lost his way and he may need a **** good kick up the backside, he may even have lost what he had when being coveted by premier league clubs. I just don't think we will know the answer for sure until the court case is over.
Either way, I'm sure that GP will do what is best for our club.
ballantrrae
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5:40pm Fri 4 Jan 13
JollyRoger wrote:There is a story about two priests exchanging cultural differences over lunch in Rome one day.
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:As you say - this is Spain, which tends to mean that anything you would like to be done quickly will take 10 times longer than you think it should take.
This is Spain - the passport thing will simply come down to how much needs to change hands behind closed doors!
If he is to be the striker we need and want then let's hope it goes through quickly.
Mañana.
The Italian Priest turns to the Spanish priest and says "do you have any word meaning manana (italian version) ?"
The Spanish priest replies " no we don't have anything that conveys that degree of urgency".
I wonder if this attitude might just apply to Mr Ulloa getting his Spanish passport.
I am not sure that we should wait for his situation to be resolved (a) because it might not before the window closes and (b) because, as Poyet pointed out when this story first broke, the Albion might lose out on other striker options we are apparently potentially interested in.
Seeing Poyet's reported interview on Sky Sports News I am not sure that Ulloa wil meet the criteria of being the 'Impact' player he (Poyet) thinks might make the difference . I wonder if he has any particular additional signing in mind and whether that player would be another forward or a Midfielder.
Pleased to see that we are signing the young Latvian defender Maksimenko. At least he should help provide some more defensive cover which has been sadly missing in recent weeks. Good to see that BHA aren't just concentrating on the striker signing.
Looking forward to the match tomorrow. Fingers crossed...
SMF20
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5:42pm Fri 4 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:As I mention Vegas. I think Dunks problems have risen from off the pitch.
SMF20 wrote:SMF20 I find myself with Freeloader with regards to Dunk, but he and I may differ in how we convey our thoughts.
Potentially great news about Ulloa and the young Latvian lad. I think both will be very useful to have in the 1st team squad. I know The Argus have mentioned him linking up with the development squad but I personally would hope that at the age of 22 he is ready for 1st team action. On the Dunk front... IMHO it would be a travesty to move him on at the moment, he is far better than his current forms shows and this is due to off field situations and not football one. Just look at Lua Lua now. Dunk is premiership quality potentially, keep the lad and give him a chance to shine again.
Dunk might turn out to be special, he might. If he does and those days arrive with another club then good for them and him.
I don't see Dunk as a great prospect, yes last year he started the season well, but so did many other players in the squad. The lad is still young and he clearly has some footballing faults, I am just not sure that we need to spend the money teaching him.
I think it fair to say that the set up at Arsenal is probably the best in the country when it comes to evaluating young talent. It would appear that Arsenal have lost their one time interest in Dunk.
The fee he goes for will reflect the value he brings to our squad and this year I am afraid his value has slipped. I hope he goes on to have a great career but right now, we need a more polished defender.
It's only my humble opinion that thinks we should give him a chance to find himself again.
I appreciate your diplomatic approach though :)
VegasSeagull
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5:55pm Fri 4 Jan 13
If the issue is what is causing Dunk to under perform should we not take the chance to replace him in a season when promotion is still a possibilty?
Do we have the luxuary of time with regards to Dunk.
SMF20
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6:02pm Fri 4 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Why not keep both? Dunk is still young and as such is probably on a relatively low wage.
SMF20 it would appear that we have the young Latvian coming in, a player of similar age to Dunk and one without the, 'off pitch issue,' hanging over him.
If the issue is what is causing Dunk to under perform should we not take the chance to replace him in a season when promotion is still a possibilty?
Do we have the luxuary of time with regards to Dunk.
We all have our opinion my friend, it's each to their own as far as I'm concerned.
mikeygit
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6:04pm Fri 4 Jan 13
VegasSeagull
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6:17pm Fri 4 Jan 13
No need to name the players, we all know who they are, Dunk is one more to add to the list, but he may well have been on some lists, he was on mine.
Four or five players go and their combined wages might pay for two replacements. To think that we can maintain most of the squad and add to it is just not on, we don't have massive financial resources.
I think the total number of our squad will be lower at the end of january than at the start.
Hovite
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6:20pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Willie, Willie Irvine
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7:02pm Fri 4 Jan 13
sussexram40
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9:19pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Silly boy.
VegasSeagull
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10:37pm Fri 4 Jan 13
sussexram40 wrote:I have no idea as to whether or not Dunk is, as you put it, too fond of the amber nectar.
Everyone was going Dunk mad a year or 2 ago. Now he's regarded as a liability who gets sent off a lot and is too fond of the amber nectar. Silly boy.
Some players progress at different rates, some go flat and then just take off, Murray for example.
For me Dunk is still a prospect, I am not sure if we know how good, or not so good, he might turn out to be but right now that doesn't matter.
The wage bill is being cut and only those that are truly needed among our top 18 players will stay. Some will argue that Dunk is needed but look at who we have and add the Latvian as cover. David is proving to be very versatile and Painter might be kept untill the end of the season, again as cover.
We won't cut the squad in a big way but we will cut it. I would not be surprised if it turned out that Bloom has told Gus, cut X amount in wages and I will give you X amount to spend.
Gibseagull
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8:37am Sat 5 Jan 13
kentseagull wrote:Most Spanish footballers (not sure about Argentinians though) even in the regional leagues have more skill on the ball and tactical awareness than the vast majority of english championship players. They tend to lack the physicality, pace and agression of english players and can find the weather a bit disturbing!
We signed Calde from the Spanish second division...i'm sure there are plenty of good players outside of the top 3 or 4 european leagues good enough for our first team - hopefully he is one of them
Freeloaders
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10:20am Sat 5 Jan 13
Hovite wrote:Pure dream world stuff.You think top scouts have not been watching him for years like with Elphick.Both have very little pace.Plus like Poyet said after the palace game Dunk can't control the ball.When these big clubs watch players like Grant Hall they also see Dunk & his friends about.
Dunk just needs to play football to find his feet and confidence again. Whether loaned out or sold on.
Freeloaders
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10:26am Sat 5 Jan 13
sussexram40 wrote:Top post my friend.Players like Dunk,Barker,Anton Rodgers,and that Cook lad upset the hard working players like Nooney said.As soon as them & their friends are off the wage bill the better.Top prem-league players don't go for small money lol.
Everyone was going Dunk mad a year or 2 ago. Now he's regarded as a liability who gets sent off a lot and is too fond of the amber nectar.
Silly boy.
VegasSeagull
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10:53am Sat 5 Jan 13
Freeloaders wrote:Freeloader you have said this before, many times before, take it from me we have got the message, can we move on now.
sussexram40 wrote: Everyone was going Dunk mad a year or 2 ago. Now he's regarded as a liability who gets sent off a lot and is too fond of the amber nectar. Silly boy.Top post my friend.Players like Dunk,Barker,Anton Rodgers,and that Cook lad upset the hard working players like Nooney said.As soon as them & their friends are off the wage bill the better.Top prem-league players don't go for small money lol.
Yogi says...
11:50am Fri 4 Jan 13