Calderon backs Ulloa to make a big difference to Albion

The Argus: Leonardo Ulloa (left) has his EU passport and is all set to become an Albion player Leonardo Ulloa (left) has his EU passport and is all set to become an Albion player

  Inigo Calderon reckons Leonardo Ulloa will be a big hit for Albion.


  He expects the Argentinian target man to be a handful for Championship defenders - just as Ulloa was for Calderon and his colleagues back in Spain.


  Ulloa now has his EU passport and is poised to complete his move from Almeria to The Amex tomorrow or Thursday after watching Calderon and Albion beat Derby County on Saturday.


  Calderon, back in the side after a knee injury, is relieved he will be on the same side as the striker dubbed 'The Cyclone'.


  The right-back revealed: "I played against him a couple of times when I was in Spain. When I was at Alaves he was with Castellon so it was maybe four years ago.


  "We struggled to defend against him, so hopefully it is going to be a struggle for other defenders.


  "I remember he was big and his record is so good. Hopefully he can keep doing the thing he does best, scoring goals. I know for sure he is going to give us a big hand.


  "I think he is going to give us something different that we don't have now, a big presence at the top of the team."

 Full story in today's Argus.

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10:31am Tue 15 Jan 13

heathgate says...

Fingers crossed his agent hasnt got plans to tout him around now, I suspect if he signs he will be bench at best on Saturday, Gus likes to give new signings a customary two and a half minutes action.

I ould love him to be unleashed on the Gunners or Swansea next week, perhps with CMS picking up the pieces around him,... happy days.
Fingers crossed his agent hasnt got plans to tout him around now, I suspect if he signs he will be bench at best on Saturday, Gus likes to give new signings a customary two and a half minutes action. I ould love him to be unleashed on the Gunners or Swansea next week, perhps with CMS picking up the pieces around him,... happy days. heathgate

10:41am Tue 15 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

heathgate wrote:
Fingers crossed his agent hasnt got plans to tout him around now, I suspect if he signs he will be bench at best on Saturday, Gus likes to give new signings a customary two and a half minutes action.

I ould love him to be unleashed on the Gunners or Swansea next week, perhps with CMS picking up the pieces around him,... happy days.
The agent thing is my concern also
Udinese wanted him but had to many players noticed on espn transfers they have moved a forward out to the Watford farm I hope thus isn't to clear the way for our target man.fingers crossed
UTA
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Fingers crossed his agent hasnt got plans to tout him around now, I suspect if he signs he will be bench at best on Saturday, Gus likes to give new signings a customary two and a half minutes action. I ould love him to be unleashed on the Gunners or Swansea next week, perhps with CMS picking up the pieces around him,... happy days.[/p][/quote]The agent thing is my concern also Udinese wanted him but had to many players noticed on espn transfers they have moved a forward out to the Watford farm I hope thus isn't to clear the way for our target man.fingers crossed UTA jockithenoo

11:02am Tue 15 Jan 13

mikeygit says...

Agents can be a thorn in the side--but having come over already and watched Albion and by Gus's comments it looks 99% a nailed on deal---but it is no deal until he signs on the dotted line. Roll on tomorrow/thurs. Wonder then who else is on Gus's radar???
Agents can be a thorn in the side--but having come over already and watched Albion and by Gus's comments it looks 99% a nailed on deal---but it is no deal until he signs on the dotted line. Roll on tomorrow/thurs. Wonder then who else is on Gus's radar??? mikeygit

11:11am Tue 15 Jan 13

Bob! says...

He's a BIG lad isn't he!!
He's a BIG lad isn't he!! Bob!

11:47am Tue 15 Jan 13

WestStander17 says...

With the club being so vocal about him I would think the deal is basically done. Can't wait to see "The Cyclone" in action!
With the club being so vocal about him I would think the deal is basically done. Can't wait to see "The Cyclone" in action! WestStander17

11:48am Tue 15 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

Bob! wrote:
He's a BIG lad isn't he!!
He certainly is i hope he lives up to his tag
THE CYCLONE ! !
OH HAPPY DAYS
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Bob![/bold] wrote: He's a BIG lad isn't he!![/p][/quote]He certainly is i hope he lives up to his tag THE CYCLONE ! ! OH HAPPY DAYS UTA jockithenoo

11:50am Tue 15 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

He certainly is i hope he lives up to his tag
THE CYCLONE ! !
OH HAPPY DAYS
UTA
He certainly is i hope he lives up to his tag THE CYCLONE ! ! OH HAPPY DAYS UTA jockithenoo

11:51am Tue 15 Jan 13

Alfie T says...

Won't be winning any pretty boy competitions!
Won't be winning any pretty boy competitions! Alfie T

12:43pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Cory and Trevor says...

CanNOT believe this - we've just lost Gus to another local outfit by the looks of it

http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/10162141.
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xecutive_revealed/
CanNOT believe this - we've just lost Gus to another local outfit by the looks of it http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/10162141. New_hospital_chief_e xecutive_revealed/ Cory and Trevor

1:05pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Hovite says...

It does a bit C&T ;o)
It does a bit C&T ;o) Hovite

1:13pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Far gull says...

That tanned look will quickly disappear
:-) , and hope Tony has approved gus moonlighting? guess we've got to pay back debt on stadium somehow.?
That tanned look will quickly disappear :-) , and hope Tony has approved gus moonlighting? guess we've got to pay back debt on stadium somehow.? Far gull

1:56pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Gibseagull says...

Bienvenidos al Ciclon!!
Bienvenidos al Ciclon!! Gibseagull

2:02pm Tue 15 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Half way thru the transfer window and we have seen a developement squad defender join us and, as stated by another, a deal basically done for a striker, is that the end?

Very little movement out and to be honest I thought there would be more.

There is a little voice in the back of my head telling me thta we are not done with inward bound players. I have this gut feeling that someone is within our sights.
Half way thru the transfer window and we have seen a developement squad defender join us and, as stated by another, a deal basically done for a striker, is that the end? Very little movement out and to be honest I thought there would be more. There is a little voice in the back of my head telling me thta we are not done with inward bound players. I have this gut feeling that someone is within our sights. VegasSeagull

2:09pm Tue 15 Jan 13

klemaniac says...

Cory and Trevor says...
12:43pm Tue 15 Jan 13

CanNOT believe this - we've just lost Gus to another local outfit by the looks of it

He does look like Gus doesn't he
Cory and Trevor says... 12:43pm Tue 15 Jan 13 CanNOT believe this - we've just lost Gus to another local outfit by the looks of it He does look like Gus doesn't he klemaniac

2:11pm Tue 15 Jan 13

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Some news todaty regarding another development squad signing:

Brighton are lining up a move for Plymouth goalkeeper Christian Walton.

The 17-year-old is highly regarded at Plymouth and has attracted the interest of a number of Premier League clubs, including Fulham.

Walton, who has been at Plymouth since the age of 10, has yet to play a first-team game for the League Two club, but he has impressed in their youth sides.

Brighton have now expressed an interest in the shot-stopper and they have taken him on trial so that Gus Poyet and his coaching staff can cast an eye over him.

If Walton impresses during his training stint he could make a move to the AMEX Stadium with Plymouth likely to sell for the right price.

.
Some news todaty regarding another development squad signing: Brighton are lining up a move for Plymouth goalkeeper Christian Walton. The 17-year-old is highly regarded at Plymouth and has attracted the interest of a number of Premier League clubs, including Fulham. Walton, who has been at Plymouth since the age of 10, has yet to play a first-team game for the League Two club, but he has impressed in their youth sides. Brighton have now expressed an interest in the shot-stopper and they have taken him on trial so that Gus Poyet and his coaching staff can cast an eye over him. If Walton impresses during his training stint he could make a move to the AMEX Stadium with Plymouth likely to sell for the right price. . PressBoxTeaBoy

2:17pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Gee Jay says...

The Ablion must be fairly certain of this deal, otherwise we would not have heard any club statements surrounding this guy signing.
As far as any other transfer news, remember that,generally, the club tend to keep things very quite until the guy is officially an Albion player
The Ablion must be fairly certain of this deal, otherwise we would not have heard any club statements surrounding this guy signing. As far as any other transfer news, remember that,generally, the club tend to keep things very quite until the guy is officially an Albion player Gee Jay

2:30pm Tue 15 Jan 13

olebut says...

They have agreed a fee with his club, he has, I thought signed, subject to his passport being sorted which it now is.

In Gus We Trust
They have agreed a fee with his club, he has, I thought signed, subject to his passport being sorted which it now is. In Gus We Trust olebut

2:41pm Tue 15 Jan 13

saraman says...

Does anyone think that Ulloa has a resemblence to the guy who presented the astronomy program on BBC the other week? I can't recall his name off hand. Could be an omen if he turns out to be a star.
Does anyone think that Ulloa has a resemblence to the guy who presented the astronomy program on BBC the other week? I can't recall his name off hand. Could be an omen if he turns out to be a star. saraman

2:53pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Bob! says...

saraman wrote:
Does anyone think that Ulloa has a resemblence to the guy who presented the astronomy program on BBC the other week? I can't recall his name off hand. Could be an omen if he turns out to be a star.
Patrick Moore?
Brian Cox?
Dara O Briain?
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Does anyone think that Ulloa has a resemblence to the guy who presented the astronomy program on BBC the other week? I can't recall his name off hand. Could be an omen if he turns out to be a star.[/p][/quote]Patrick Moore? Brian Cox? Dara O Briain? Bob!

2:55pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Looks nothing like Patrick Moore
Looks nothing like Patrick Moore Hovite

3:00pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Shares the same height and hair style as Brian Cox, so he could be another bruver from a latin american mother.
Shares the same height and hair style as Brian Cox, so he could be another bruver from a latin american mother. Hovite

3:01pm Tue 15 Jan 13

the taffster says...

i hope this doesnt turn into a bidding war with other clubs via his agent.
i hope this doesnt turn into a bidding war with other clubs via his agent. the taffster

3:04pm Tue 15 Jan 13

championshipgull says...

Is that the hand of God on his T-shirt
Is that the hand of God on his T-shirt championshipgull

3:09pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Hovite says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Some news todaty regarding another development squad signing:

Brighton are lining up a move for Plymouth goalkeeper Christian Walton.

The 17-year-old is highly regarded at Plymouth and has attracted the interest of a number of Premier League clubs, including Fulham.

Walton, who has been at Plymouth since the age of 10, has yet to play a first-team game for the League Two club, but he has impressed in their youth sides.

Brighton have now expressed an interest in the shot-stopper and they have taken him on trial so that Gus Poyet and his coaching staff can cast an eye over him.

If Walton impresses during his training stint he could make a move to the AMEX Stadium with Plymouth likely to sell for the right price.

.
Good to see how far in advance we are working.
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Some news todaty regarding another development squad signing: Brighton are lining up a move for Plymouth goalkeeper Christian Walton. The 17-year-old is highly regarded at Plymouth and has attracted the interest of a number of Premier League clubs, including Fulham. Walton, who has been at Plymouth since the age of 10, has yet to play a first-team game for the League Two club, but he has impressed in their youth sides. Brighton have now expressed an interest in the shot-stopper and they have taken him on trial so that Gus Poyet and his coaching staff can cast an eye over him. If Walton impresses during his training stint he could make a move to the AMEX Stadium with Plymouth likely to sell for the right price. .[/p][/quote]Good to see how far in advance we are working. Hovite

3:17pm Tue 15 Jan 13

mikeygit says...

I also saw the bit on Sky Sports re-the Plymouth goalkeeper--BUT WHY do we need yet another goalkeeper---are we getting rid of one of own goalies??? Other than that some good 'rumours' going around--exciting days ahead?? As long as we do not break the bank, which i am sure we will not do---get some good loan players with the option of buying IF we do go up.
I also saw the bit on Sky Sports re-the Plymouth goalkeeper--BUT WHY do we need yet another goalkeeper---are we getting rid of one of own goalies??? Other than that some good 'rumours' going around--exciting days ahead?? As long as we do not break the bank, which i am sure we will not do---get some good loan players with the option of buying IF we do go up. mikeygit

3:18pm Tue 15 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite wrote:
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote: Some news todaty regarding another development squad signing: Brighton are lining up a move for Plymouth goalkeeper Christian Walton. The 17-year-old is highly regarded at Plymouth and has attracted the interest of a number of Premier League clubs, including Fulham. Walton, who has been at Plymouth since the age of 10, has yet to play a first-team game for the League Two club, but he has impressed in their youth sides. Brighton have now expressed an interest in the shot-stopper and they have taken him on trial so that Gus Poyet and his coaching staff can cast an eye over him. If Walton impresses during his training stint he could make a move to the AMEX Stadium with Plymouth likely to sell for the right price. .
Good to see how far in advance we are working.
Top six or better is the priority, the cup takes second place.

The beating of Newcastle gave us enough money to buy 3 or 4 young lads for the developement squad. Beat our next opponents and we could buy 3 or 4 more. The cup might be second place in our priorities but the benefits from it can be immense.

I am thinking that the average youngster would cost no more thna 100k each.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Some news todaty regarding another development squad signing: Brighton are lining up a move for Plymouth goalkeeper Christian Walton. The 17-year-old is highly regarded at Plymouth and has attracted the interest of a number of Premier League clubs, including Fulham. Walton, who has been at Plymouth since the age of 10, has yet to play a first-team game for the League Two club, but he has impressed in their youth sides. Brighton have now expressed an interest in the shot-stopper and they have taken him on trial so that Gus Poyet and his coaching staff can cast an eye over him. If Walton impresses during his training stint he could make a move to the AMEX Stadium with Plymouth likely to sell for the right price. .[/p][/quote]Good to see how far in advance we are working.[/p][/quote]Top six or better is the priority, the cup takes second place. The beating of Newcastle gave us enough money to buy 3 or 4 young lads for the developement squad. Beat our next opponents and we could buy 3 or 4 more. The cup might be second place in our priorities but the benefits from it can be immense. I am thinking that the average youngster would cost no more thna 100k each. VegasSeagull

3:32pm Tue 15 Jan 13

saraman says...

Bob! wrote:
saraman wrote: Does anyone think that Ulloa has a resemblence to the guy who presented the astronomy program on BBC the other week? I can't recall his name off hand. Could be an omen if he turns out to be a star.
Patrick Moore? Brian Cox? Dara O Briain?
Funny, Brian Cox, that's the one.
[quote][p][bold]Bob![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Does anyone think that Ulloa has a resemblence to the guy who presented the astronomy program on BBC the other week? I can't recall his name off hand. Could be an omen if he turns out to be a star.[/p][/quote]Patrick Moore? Brian Cox? Dara O Briain?[/p][/quote]Funny, Brian Cox, that's the one. saraman

4:50pm Tue 15 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Half way thru the transfer window and we have seen a developement squad defender join us and, as stated by another, a deal basically done for a striker, is that the end?

Very little movement out and to be honest I thought there would be more.

There is a little voice in the back of my head telling me thta we are not done with inward bound players. I have this gut feeling that someone is within our sights.
VegasSeagull there are lots of 'rumoured' activity on the internet today.
Outgoing rumours include JFC to Brentford for the rest of the season and Dobbie to Millwall also to the end of the season. A pity if JFC did go out to some extent since he (JFC) seems to have had an excellent game for the DS against Bournemouth today.
Two incoming rumours. Sky Sports Transfer News reports that we are trialling a young goalkeeper from Plymouth called Christian Walton (For the DS I imagine). On Football Transfer Rumours there is yet another posting saying we are interested in Sebastian Fernandez of Malaga. Since Malaga have just acquired young Chelsea striker Piazon on loan it is feasible that Malaga might be selling/releasing a striker themselves.
Rumours of course are one thing actual activity another but given Poyet was quoted on this site yesterday as saying he was hoping/wanting to sign at least one more player this month I think your feeling that someone else will join the club is quite likely.
In fact some of the rumours are almost in a sense linked. If Fernandez was signed then it might be logical for Dobbie to go out on loan.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Half way thru the transfer window and we have seen a developement squad defender join us and, as stated by another, a deal basically done for a striker, is that the end? Very little movement out and to be honest I thought there would be more. There is a little voice in the back of my head telling me thta we are not done with inward bound players. I have this gut feeling that someone is within our sights.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull there are lots of 'rumoured' activity on the internet today. Outgoing rumours include JFC to Brentford for the rest of the season and Dobbie to Millwall also to the end of the season. A pity if JFC did go out to some extent since he (JFC) seems to have had an excellent game for the DS against Bournemouth today. Two incoming rumours. Sky Sports Transfer News reports that we are trialling a young goalkeeper from Plymouth called Christian Walton (For the DS I imagine). On Football Transfer Rumours there is yet another posting saying we are interested in Sebastian Fernandez of Malaga. Since Malaga have just acquired young Chelsea striker Piazon on loan it is feasible that Malaga might be selling/releasing a striker themselves. Rumours of course are one thing actual activity another but given Poyet was quoted on this site yesterday as saying he was hoping/wanting to sign at least one more player this month I think your feeling that someone else will join the club is quite likely. In fact some of the rumours are almost in a sense linked. If Fernandez was signed then it might be logical for Dobbie to go out on loan. ballantrrae

5:01pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Godstone Gull says...

championshipgull wrote:
Is that the hand of God on his T-shirt
Ha Ha If Maradona has given him that he can use it against Arsenal.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Is that the hand of God on his T-shirt[/p][/quote]Ha Ha If Maradona has given him that he can use it against Arsenal. Godstone Gull

5:06pm Tue 15 Jan 13

beanyeye says...

How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?
How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now? beanyeye

5:15pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Bob! says...

mikeygit wrote:
I also saw the bit on Sky Sports re-the Plymouth goalkeeper--BUT WHY do we need yet another goalkeeper---are we getting rid of one of own goalies??? Other than that some good 'rumours' going around--exciting days ahead?? As long as we do not break the bank, which i am sure we will not do---get some good loan players with the option of buying IF we do go up.
He's 17 years old, one for the future, not to replace current First team squad!
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: I also saw the bit on Sky Sports re-the Plymouth goalkeeper--BUT WHY do we need yet another goalkeeper---are we getting rid of one of own goalies??? Other than that some good 'rumours' going around--exciting days ahead?? As long as we do not break the bank, which i am sure we will not do---get some good loan players with the option of buying IF we do go up.[/p][/quote]He's 17 years old, one for the future, not to replace current First team squad! Bob!

5:19pm Tue 15 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Ballantrrae, yeah I saw the rumours to which you refer, and as you suggest rumours are just rumours.

Many on here, I can understand why, would be of the opinion that we do not need another midfield player, but that could be where Poyet is directing his interest.
I would not be at all surprised if we were checking out play makers. We have one in Vicente and possibly, to a lesser degree another in David or Orlandi but I don't think we can consider ourselves strong in this department.

The previous stated opinon by Gus that we could do with a new center back may have wained a little.
When all our defenders are fit we are reasonably well served at the back, and we now have the young Latvian.
If Gus is restricted in any way by finances I think this is the area where he will forsake his wishes.

If only one more first team addition, then my guess would be an attacking midfield play maker.







.
Ballantrrae, yeah I saw the rumours to which you refer, and as you suggest rumours are just rumours. Many on here, I can understand why, would be of the opinion that we do not need another midfield player, but that could be where Poyet is directing his interest. I would not be at all surprised if we were checking out play makers. We have one in Vicente and possibly, to a lesser degree another in David or Orlandi but I don't think we can consider ourselves strong in this department. The previous stated opinon by Gus that we could do with a new center back may have wained a little. When all our defenders are fit we are reasonably well served at the back, and we now have the young Latvian. If Gus is restricted in any way by finances I think this is the area where he will forsake his wishes. If only one more first team addition, then my guess would be an attacking midfield play maker. . VegasSeagull

5:20pm Tue 15 Jan 13

saraman says...

Godstone Gull wrote:
championshipgull wrote: Is that the hand of God on his T-shirt
Ha Ha If Maradona has given him that he can use it against Arsenal.
Or Swansea. It's not done and dusted that The Gunners will visit The Amex.
[quote][p][bold]Godstone Gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Is that the hand of God on his T-shirt[/p][/quote]Ha Ha If Maradona has given him that he can use it against Arsenal.[/p][/quote]Or Swansea. It's not done and dusted that The Gunners will visit The Amex. saraman

5:21pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Godstone Gull says...

beanyeye wrote:
How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?
We built a 100million pound stadium. Does that not tell you anything.It would put a hole in anyone’s accounts.
[quote][p][bold]beanyeye[/bold] wrote: How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?[/p][/quote]We built a 100million pound stadium. Does that not tell you anything.It would put a hole in anyone’s accounts. Godstone Gull

5:31pm Tue 15 Jan 13

bruce beckett says...

Let's hope Ulloa and his agent don't do a Loic Remy on us before he puts pen to paper, although I don't know how much interest there is in him from other clubs outside Spain. Imagine having an 80k-a-week player on your books when you're playing in the Championship? Still, Harry will no doubt have done a runner long before then.
Let's hope Ulloa and his agent don't do a Loic Remy on us before he puts pen to paper, although I don't know how much interest there is in him from other clubs outside Spain. Imagine having an 80k-a-week player on your books when you're playing in the Championship? Still, Harry will no doubt have done a runner long before then. bruce beckett

5:33pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Tommy from the Amex says...

beanyeye wrote:
How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?
Are you for real ??? Or just a WUM ?
[quote][p][bold]beanyeye[/bold] wrote: How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?[/p][/quote]Are you for real ??? Or just a WUM ? Tommy from the Amex

5:37pm Tue 15 Jan 13

saraman says...

Godstone Gull wrote:
beanyeye wrote: How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?
We built a 100million pound stadium. Does that not tell you anything.It would put a hole in anyone’s accounts.
The debt is managable to my way of thinking. If say you are on a salary of £30k and you take out a mortgage for £100k you could argue that in the first year you have made a loss of £70k. But if you have an appreciating asset it then becomes irrelevent. The same as The Albion, we will have an appreciating asset. No problems, you have to speculate to accummalate.
[quote][p][bold]Godstone Gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beanyeye[/bold] wrote: How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?[/p][/quote]We built a 100million pound stadium. Does that not tell you anything.It would put a hole in anyone’s accounts.[/p][/quote]The debt is managable to my way of thinking. If say you are on a salary of £30k and you take out a mortgage for £100k you could argue that in the first year you have made a loss of £70k. But if you have an appreciating asset it then becomes irrelevent. The same as The Albion, we will have an appreciating asset. No problems, you have to speculate to accummalate. saraman

5:46pm Tue 15 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

beanyeye wrote:
How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?
I think it a big step to say that the club has been mismanaged.

The only thing we know for certain is that last year we lost 8 million, we have no idea as to how that figure is constructed. It is very possible that a large percentage of that loss was caused by one off payments. Legal fees, consultants and architechts all related to our new training ground may well be included in that figure. The expansion of our scouting team will have added to our overall wage bill, and whilst they are an ongoing cost, they are a justified expense, IMHO.

BHA is a business and it is fair to say that the business only really got launched when we moved to the Amex. Any new business, of a decent size, will be expected to lose money during it's first 3 or 4 years of operating. The long term viability of BHA is solid, if it were not I doubt banks would be prepared to advance us the money we need to expand. Not all of the money being invested is coming from Tony Bloom.
[quote][p][bold]beanyeye[/bold] wrote: How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?[/p][/quote]I think it a big step to say that the club has been mismanaged. The only thing we know for certain is that last year we lost 8 million, we have no idea as to how that figure is constructed. It is very possible that a large percentage of that loss was caused by one off payments. Legal fees, consultants and architechts all related to our new training ground may well be included in that figure. The expansion of our scouting team will have added to our overall wage bill, and whilst they are an ongoing cost, they are a justified expense, IMHO. BHA is a business and it is fair to say that the business only really got launched when we moved to the Amex. Any new business, of a decent size, will be expected to lose money during it's first 3 or 4 years of operating. The long term viability of BHA is solid, if it were not I doubt banks would be prepared to advance us the money we need to expand. Not all of the money being invested is coming from Tony Bloom. VegasSeagull

5:52pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Godstone Gull says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Let's hope Ulloa and his agent don't do a Loic Remy on us before he puts pen to paper, although I don't know how much interest there is in him from other clubs outside Spain. Imagine having an 80k-a-week player on your books when you're playing in the Championship? Still, Harry will no doubt have done a runner long before then.
Always full of happiness Aren’t you
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Let's hope Ulloa and his agent don't do a Loic Remy on us before he puts pen to paper, although I don't know how much interest there is in him from other clubs outside Spain. Imagine having an 80k-a-week player on your books when you're playing in the Championship? Still, Harry will no doubt have done a runner long before then.[/p][/quote]Always full of happiness Aren’t you Godstone Gull

6:11pm Tue 15 Jan 13

mikeygit says...

I still am of the opinion the Club is being run on a tight good financial lines but I am sure for those interested, the Clubs accounts can be found on the web site--if I find it I will post where.
If the new signings plus our current boys can win us promotion with all the financial benefits that go with the Premiership then maybe the £8m loss will be worth it--I trust Mr Bloom not to take any risks with the clubs finances---and his!!!
I still am of the opinion the Club is being run on a tight good financial lines but I am sure for those interested, the Clubs accounts can be found on the web site--if I find it I will post where. If the new signings plus our current boys can win us promotion with all the financial benefits that go with the Premiership then maybe the £8m loss will be worth it--I trust Mr Bloom not to take any risks with the clubs finances---and his!!! mikeygit

7:14pm Tue 15 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

saraman wrote:
Does anyone think that Ulloa has a resemblence to the guy who presented the astronomy program on BBC the other week? I can't recall his name off hand. Could be an omen if he turns out to be a star.
The Presenter is Professor Brian Cox so perhaps we should call Ulloa 'the Professor'.
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Does anyone think that Ulloa has a resemblence to the guy who presented the astronomy program on BBC the other week? I can't recall his name off hand. Could be an omen if he turns out to be a star.[/p][/quote]The Presenter is Professor Brian Cox so perhaps we should call Ulloa 'the Professor'. ballantrrae

7:33pm Tue 15 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ballantrrae, yeah I saw the rumours to which you refer, and as you suggest rumours are just rumours.

Many on here, I can understand why, would be of the opinion that we do not need another midfield player, but that could be where Poyet is directing his interest.
I would not be at all surprised if we were checking out play makers. We have one in Vicente and possibly, to a lesser degree another in David or Orlandi but I don't think we can consider ourselves strong in this department.

The previous stated opinon by Gus that we could do with a new center back may have wained a little.
When all our defenders are fit we are reasonably well served at the back, and we now have the young Latvian.
If Gus is restricted in any way by finances I think this is the area where he will forsake his wishes.

If only one more first team addition, then my guess would be an attacking midfield play maker.







.
VegasSeagull. I agree with you about a midfielder but not quite with the particular midfield role you quote.
I think we are well served with attacking midfielders ie Vicente (when fit), JFC, Orlandi and Dobbie. Barnes can also play just behind a lone striker when Poyet adopts his favoured 4 - 5 - 1 formation.
What we appear to lack is a powerhouse midfielder. Last season Poyet said that to get the best out of Vicente we needed that type of midfielder and after Saturday's performance I think we still do.
i appreciate we might not agree with the detail but we are I think on the same page otherwise (re a midfielder).
Most of all I feel we lack physical presence in midfield. Ulloa will/should provide physicality up front but we still need more further back - El-Arb provides it in the Back 4.
I am sure you will have further comments Vegas..
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ballantrrae, yeah I saw the rumours to which you refer, and as you suggest rumours are just rumours. Many on here, I can understand why, would be of the opinion that we do not need another midfield player, but that could be where Poyet is directing his interest. I would not be at all surprised if we were checking out play makers. We have one in Vicente and possibly, to a lesser degree another in David or Orlandi but I don't think we can consider ourselves strong in this department. The previous stated opinon by Gus that we could do with a new center back may have wained a little. When all our defenders are fit we are reasonably well served at the back, and we now have the young Latvian. If Gus is restricted in any way by finances I think this is the area where he will forsake his wishes. If only one more first team addition, then my guess would be an attacking midfield play maker. .[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull. I agree with you about a midfielder but not quite with the particular midfield role you quote. I think we are well served with attacking midfielders ie Vicente (when fit), JFC, Orlandi and Dobbie. Barnes can also play just behind a lone striker when Poyet adopts his favoured 4 - 5 - 1 formation. What we appear to lack is a powerhouse midfielder. Last season Poyet said that to get the best out of Vicente we needed that type of midfielder and after Saturday's performance I think we still do. i appreciate we might not agree with the detail but we are I think on the same page otherwise (re a midfielder). Most of all I feel we lack physical presence in midfield. Ulloa will/should provide physicality up front but we still need more further back - El-Arb provides it in the Back 4. I am sure you will have further comments Vegas.. ballantrrae

8:37pm Tue 15 Jan 13

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Bob! wrote:
mikeygit wrote: I also saw the bit on Sky Sports re-the Plymouth goalkeeper--BUT WHY do we need yet another goalkeeper---are we getting rid of one of own goalies??? Other than that some good 'rumours' going around--exciting days ahead?? As long as we do not break the bank, which i am sure we will not do---get some good loan players with the option of buying IF we do go up.
He's 17 years old, one for the future, not to replace current First team squad!
And dont forget, quite often its just good business to be on the look out for talented 15 - 17 yrs olds at lower league clubs where you can pick up stars of the future for a pitance, develop them for a few years and sell them on for 5, or 10 times what you paid. " A la Grant Hall going to Spurs for 1.5Mill, as reported by sportsmole.co.uk, without even establishing himself in the first team.
Im still amazed at the 1.5Mill we got for him actually, but apparently its true.
Outside of that the whats the worst that can happen,

1) we sell them for what we paid,
2) they play in the 1st team one day.
3) Or we make BIG BUCKS BABY !

Its all good to me and smart future business planning with one eye on cashing in later.
[quote][p][bold]Bob![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: I also saw the bit on Sky Sports re-the Plymouth goalkeeper--BUT WHY do we need yet another goalkeeper---are we getting rid of one of own goalies??? Other than that some good 'rumours' going around--exciting days ahead?? As long as we do not break the bank, which i am sure we will not do---get some good loan players with the option of buying IF we do go up.[/p][/quote]He's 17 years old, one for the future, not to replace current First team squad![/p][/quote]And dont forget, quite often its just good business to be on the look out for talented 15 - 17 yrs olds at lower league clubs where you can pick up stars of the future for a pitance, develop them for a few years and sell them on for 5, or 10 times what you paid. " A la Grant Hall going to Spurs for 1.5Mill, as reported by sportsmole.co.uk, without even establishing himself in the first team. Im still amazed at the 1.5Mill we got for him actually, but apparently its true. Outside of that the whats the worst that can happen, 1) we sell them for what we paid, 2) they play in the 1st team one day. 3) Or we make BIG BUCKS BABY ! Its all good to me and smart future business planning with one eye on cashing in later. PressBoxTeaBoy

8:45pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Check out the videos on north stand chat this guy Ulloa looks like he only likes to touch the ball once on its way to goal, very impressed if he can do that most weeks for us!
Check out the videos on north stand chat this guy Ulloa looks like he only likes to touch the ball once on its way to goal, very impressed if he can do that most weeks for us! Bucket feet Duffy

9:45pm Tue 15 Jan 13

beanyeye says...

Godstone Gull wrote:
beanyeye wrote:
How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?
We built a 100million pound stadium. Does that not tell you anything.It would put a hole in anyone’s accounts.
Fair Play rules are not concerned with capital payments. Annual income against annual expenditure. If they do not equal and the club is in debt it will be fined, face transfer embargo etc.
[quote][p][bold]Godstone Gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beanyeye[/bold] wrote: How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?[/p][/quote]We built a 100million pound stadium. Does that not tell you anything.It would put a hole in anyone’s accounts.[/p][/quote]Fair Play rules are not concerned with capital payments. Annual income against annual expenditure. If they do not equal and the club is in debt it will be fined, face transfer embargo etc. beanyeye

9:54pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Let's not expect too much from him at first as all Brighton fans expect instant success, and are up in arms otherwise. Fingers crossed he may turn out to be a real gem!!
Let's not expect too much from him at first as all Brighton fans expect instant success, and are up in arms otherwise. Fingers crossed he may turn out to be a real gem!! Tony the tiger eastbourne

10:39pm Tue 15 Jan 13

pablobrowno says...

Blimey it's getting to be weeks since Dobbie was anywhere near the pitch. Such a shame I think but starting to look like it's not gonna work out here for him. Can't help feeling we've missed out on his best.
Blimey it's getting to be weeks since Dobbie was anywhere near the pitch. Such a shame I think but starting to look like it's not gonna work out here for him. Can't help feeling we've missed out on his best. pablobrowno

10:47pm Tue 15 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Well as I write this we seem to have got thru another day without losing any of our gems, it's 10-45 your time.

Big day tomorrow, we should see Ulloa pose for a picture of him holding the stripes.

I wonder what tomorrow will bring, other than Ulloa.
Well as I write this we seem to have got thru another day without losing any of our gems, it's 10-45 your time. Big day tomorrow, we should see Ulloa pose for a picture of him holding the stripes. I wonder what tomorrow will bring, other than Ulloa. VegasSeagull

11:39pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Claude Back says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Let's hope Ulloa and his agent don't do a Loic Remy on us before he puts pen to paper, although I don't know how much interest there is in him from other clubs outside Spain. Imagine having an 80k-a-week player on your books when you're playing in the Championship? Still, Harry will no doubt have done a runner long before then.
Too true.
Redknapp will bankrupt QPR like he did to So'ton, Bournemouth and Portsmouth.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Let's hope Ulloa and his agent don't do a Loic Remy on us before he puts pen to paper, although I don't know how much interest there is in him from other clubs outside Spain. Imagine having an 80k-a-week player on your books when you're playing in the Championship? Still, Harry will no doubt have done a runner long before then.[/p][/quote]Too true. Redknapp will bankrupt QPR like he did to So'ton, Bournemouth and Portsmouth. Claude Back

2:00am Wed 16 Jan 13

the taffster says...

mcfadzean from crawley is available.great midfielder,dont miss out gus,
mcfadzean from crawley is available.great midfielder,dont miss out gus, the taffster

6:38am Wed 16 Jan 13

Tommy from the Amex says...

beanyeye wrote:
Godstone Gull wrote:
beanyeye wrote:
How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?
We built a 100million pound stadium. Does that not tell you anything.It would put a hole in anyone’s accounts.
Fair Play rules are not concerned with capital payments. Annual income against annual expenditure. If they do not equal and the club is in debt it will be fined, face transfer embargo etc.
But it's already been stated we are within FFP rules ! Do kep up before you talk crap !
[quote][p][bold]beanyeye[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Godstone Gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beanyeye[/bold] wrote: How can the club be so badly mismanaged as to be annually £8m in the red in view of the income stream that it has and yet to be buying players and paying salaries that it patently cannot afford, so as to be potentially in default of the Fair Play rules. Barber talks inanely about fans needing to support the club. Is that not what manifestly happens now?[/p][/quote]We built a 100million pound stadium. Does that not tell you anything.It would put a hole in anyone’s accounts.[/p][/quote]Fair Play rules are not concerned with capital payments. Annual income against annual expenditure. If they do not equal and the club is in debt it will be fined, face transfer embargo etc.[/p][/quote]But it's already been stated we are within FFP rules ! Do kep up before you talk crap ! Tommy from the Amex

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