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Virgo keen to avoid unwanted record

Adam Virgo admits players find it difficult at Withdean Adam Virgo admits players find it difficult at Withdean

Albion could equal a club record tonight – but it is not one they want.

The Seagulls are on course for their worst ever home season.

Saturday’s 1-0 defeat by Swindon was the 11th of the campaign at Withdean.

They never suffered that many at The Goldstone or in the first six seasons at their current abode but lost 12 times in their second season at Gillingham in 1998-99.

Eleven has become a sadly familiar figure. Albion were also beaten that number of times at home in the Championship in 2005-06 and in League One both the following season and last season.

The Seagulls are in danger as well of their lowest ever home points tally. They need eight from the remaining six games against Brentford, Tranmere, Southampton, Carlisle, Bristol Rovers and Yeovil to eclipse the 19 mustered in the first year at Gillingham in 1997-98.

All of which has prompted a bit of soul-searching from Adam Virgo, who has experienced both the Withdean highs and lows during his two spells at the club.

Virgo, available after a four-match ban for Brentford’s visit tonight, admitted: “It’s not a good record to be going for. It is probably the most asked question when I am in town, the difference in our away form.

“All I can think of is that when we went to the ground at first it all happened for us. We were winning games and we never really had a bad period.

“Even when we went down in the Championship (2002-03), from Christmas onwards we went on some ridiculous run.

“Now we are not winning and the atmosphere is difficult to get into the players. I think for the first time now the way the ground is is finally affecting us as players, with the athletics track and how far the crowd are away from the pitch.

“For years opposing players used to come down and think ‘what the hell am I doing here?’ Now it is kind of roles reversed.

“When you go away from home the crowd’s really tight and we take loads of people away to places like Charlton. They have great atmospheres and that can raise your game five or ten per cent.

“I just think at the moment the fans are getting frustrated, we are getting frustrated and, when they try to get you going, it doesn’t seem to transmit to the pitch.”

Virgo will probably be closer to the supporters than he would wish tonight, on the bench rather than out in the middle.

His comeback from his red card at Leeds is more likely to be in the reserves against Eastbourne United in the quarter-finals of the Sussex Senior Cup at Lancing tomorrow night.

The deputising Adam El-Abd and Tommy Elphick have joined forces effectively in his absence, helping Albion to wins against Charlton and Exeter, a draw at Colchester and the Swindon setback, with only two goals conceded.

Virgo said: “Adam has done really well since he came in. I think he prefers the centre half spot.

“He did a job at left-back but he has always made it clear he wants to play at centre half.

“Since the turn of the year Tommy has been playing really well. I think a lot of people forget how young (22) he still is. Mistakes will be made but he has come on leaps and bounds.

“He is quite a big lad in the team and people expect him to come out of his shell and be a leader on the pitch.

“But sometimes, if you make a bad pass and you have got five and a half thousand people on your back, at that age it can affect you.

“I think he has listened a lot more to what people around him have been saying and he has gone back to basics, playing the simpler ball.

“The club have always expressed he is one for the future and not many four year contracts are given out here. I am sure he will go on to do great things.”

Comments(16)

Hector66 says...
9:06am Tue 16 Mar 10

What a terrific guy Adam Virgo is - just like his late father who was one of the best hearted people I've had the good fortune to know.

mark by the sea says...
9:31am Tue 16 Mar 10

good luck tonight, i think adam made it clear that the players are effected by the constant moaning of about half the people who turn up at the withdean, i wonder how they would feel if someone watched them work, and to hear constant moaning of "get it in there" and "what was that" the spectators at home are the reason for the poor form, away the albion have fans who support the team even when they are playing poorly.. on another matter, i cant see gus keeping Virgo.. highest paid defender! over the season the central defence have been not great.. the next ten games will be crucial to virgo.. good luck to the players.. IF YOU HAVE A TICKET TONIGHT SUPPORT THE TEAM!

lancingseagull says...
9:39am Tue 16 Mar 10

Mark, Please remind us yet again what Virgo's wages are. You always seem to add that little snipe any time you mention Virgo, one of your "Sussex Rich Kids". Do try and get over it.

mark by the sea says...
9:52am Tue 16 Mar 10

lancingseagull wrote:
Mark, Please remind us yet again what Virgo's wages are. You always seem to add that little snipe any time you mention Virgo, one of your "Sussex Rich Kids". Do try and get over it.
well he is the highest paid defender! as i say he has ten hgames to prove he is worth it! if we want out of this div, do you think any combination of Virgo, Elphick, Elabd, and tunnicliffe will do it? i wont be surprised if he ships out at least one, the club are going places.. my constant moaning about the youth is now clearly correct.. i have never used that expression, but lets be clear, next season will be 5 years since a player "made it" (tommy elphick) and the albion are in division 1.. of the 4 remaining youth players. cox will go, and i think virgo will also.. elabd will be sub next season, and elphick looks to have found some form.

Hector66 says...
10:29am Tue 16 Mar 10

i think our poor home form has much to do with the awful home supporters who, as mentioned above, never stop moaning and shouting out abusive rubbish. It doesn't matter where you sit, it's ubiquitous.

Contrast this with the wonderfully uplifting support offered to the Albion at the away matches.

This season I was able to take in the Brentford and Millwall away matches before returning to China and the support was fantastic.

Yet at home it was moronic.

It isn't rocket science. For sure this is a huge factor in our record - relegation material at home, promotion material away.

Btw, Virgo was not brought up in any shape or form as a "rich kid." He lived for a long time at the top of Preston Drove and his father, an ex Stringer boy, just wasn't like that.

Perkino says...
10:42am Tue 16 Mar 10

Have you read the article?

Virgo's comments are that at Withdean it is hard for the players to be lifted by the crowd as the crowd are too far away.

How does that translate to the crowd are picking on the players and they don't like it, so that they don't play well.

Either the crowd are too far away to affect the teams performance or the moaners are too loud and the player get hurt feelings. it can't be both.

The solution, as Elphick has re-discovered, is to go back to basics and the performances will dramatically improve.

Big Fan says...
10:48am Tue 16 Mar 10

Virgo won't be let go. He is a valuable and talented defender. Bear in mind that it was only from when Slade came in that he was being played by Adams in every position available. That had a massive effect on his form and confidence.

Since he has been a centre-back (particularly since Gus came in), his form has been superb. I don't think defence is a worry for Poyet at all. He clearly rates El-Abd, Elphick and Virgo and Tunni will continue to develop into the player we hope he can be.

As for needing experience at CB, Virgo and El-Abd have over 400 apprearances between them and Virgo is 27 years old!

Youth wise, I think people who bad mouth youth players are just as bad as those who berate the club at Withdean. Hardly a morale booster and I never understand the almost joyous elation at seeing our young players fail (Virgo, Hammond, Elphick, Harding and Lynch excepted).

"Getting behind the club" is not just a glib phrase for having a go at people like me who spend £400 a year to watch the club at Withdean, if genuine it means SUPPORTING THE CLUB and that INCLUDES THE YOUTH PROGRAMME.

There we go, rant over and roll on tonight!

troubles says...
10:53am Tue 16 Mar 10

I cannot wait for the last game at Withdean- 23 games to go? Bring Falmer on.

People should stop rising to Mark's comments as he's clearly an odious little man. He's probably the disgruntled father of an Albion Youth that didn't make it.

Perkino says...
11:12am Tue 16 Mar 10

troubles wrote:
I cannot wait for the last game at Withdean- 23 games to go? Bring Falmer on. People should stop rising to Mark's comments as he's clearly an odious little man. He's probably the disgruntled father of an Albion Youth that didn't make it.
I think its 29.

23 next season plus the 6 left this year. also add to that any cup games that we might have next term

Hector66 says...
11:24am Tue 16 Mar 10

Perkino - if you are referring to my posts, I was giving my opinion as to why the home form is so poor and the away form so good.

farside says...
11:25am Tue 16 Mar 10

Maybe (roadworks permitting as the ground will be ready) we can move in to Falmer mid-season and get rid of the curse that is Withdean sooner!

As to whether Virgo will go? Maybe that will depend on his ability to learn not to jump in with rash tackles and thereby stay on the pitch more. His failure to do so has cost us

pwlr says...
2:33pm Tue 16 Mar 10

The stewards are to blame, I went to the Exeter game & everytime we got up to sing or cheer, the stewards made us sit down, this killed the atmospher instantly. In the end we started to sing 'Sit down if you h*te Palace' just to make a point.

mark by the sea says...
5:06pm Tue 16 Mar 10

troubles wrote:
I cannot wait for the last game at Withdean- 23 games to go? Bring Falmer on. People should stop rising to Mark's comments as he's clearly an odious little man. He's probably the disgruntled father of an Albion Youth that didn't make it.
how is it odious? facts.. not one player has come through for 5 years, players released end up about 5 divisions down, i am not slating the club, players or the coaching staff, they play centre of excellence football, that was good enough to produce div one players, the quality of this div has gone up, leaving the youth system behind! its simple as that.. we need to produce championship players from now! only way to do that is become academy club.. how do you really think southampton and palace do it year in year out? its the quality of the players they play against.. palace players come up against Arsenal, and chelsea..who have the best youth players in the world? just playing them once would bare fruit.. while the albion youth play barnet and dagenham and redbridge! thats why saints who have a set up beyond the albions dreams, are refurbing marchwood facilities at cost of 10 million? why would they do that?

lancingseagull says...
6:28pm Tue 16 Mar 10

Big Fan wrote:
Virgo won't be let go. He is a valuable and talented defender. Bear in mind that it was only from when Slade came in that he was being played by Adams in every position available. That had a massive effect on his form and confidence. Since he has been a centre-back (particularly since Gus came in), his form has been superb. I don't think defence is a worry for Poyet at all. He clearly rates El-Abd, Elphick and Virgo and Tunni will continue to develop into the player we hope he can be. As for needing experience at CB, Virgo and El-Abd have over 400 apprearances between them and Virgo is 27 years old! Youth wise, I think people who bad mouth youth players are just as bad as those who berate the club at Withdean. Hardly a morale booster and I never understand the almost joyous elation at seeing our young players fail (Virgo, Hammond, Elphick, Harding and Lynch excepted). "Getting behind the club" is not just a glib phrase for having a go at people like me who spend £400 a year to watch the club at Withdean, if genuine it means SUPPORTING THE CLUB and that INCLUDES THE YOUTH PROGRAMME. There we go, rant over and roll on tonight!
As I commented on a previous post. Virgo's improvement in form is down to the fact that GP sees him as a CB and keeps him there. He is not a full-back or a centre-forward. Previous managers have played him out of position to get themselves out of a hole, and he has suffered for it. s***, is that the time , I'm off. Good luck lads.

Gentleman Jim says...
6:58pm Tue 16 Mar 10

How can the team expect not to be critised when their home form has been so poor over the last two seasons, if anyone in any occupation does not produce the goods they must take the moans and not expect applause.

Dingbat99 says...
6:31am Thu 18 Mar 10

How ironic that mark by the sea quotes Southampton as a good example when they have two products of our youth system playing for them (and ex youth team manager) in Harding and Hammond.

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