Poyet: I'm not going to Leeds (From The Argus)
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Poyet: I'm not going to Leeds
9:54am Thursday 2nd February 2012 in Albion By Andy Naylor
No-go: Poyet
Gus Poyet has ruled himself out of the running for the manager's job at Leeds.
And the Albion boss says his old club were wrong to get rid of Simon Grayson.
Poyet, 10-1 with the bookies to return to Elland Road, told The Argus: "It's a massive club and it's great place to manage, I've got no doubt.
"I would go back to Leeds at any time, of course not right now.
"We'll see what happens because, like I said, it's a magnificent place to manage."
Poyet, who was No. 2 at Leeds to Dennis Wise, is mystified by Ken Bates' decision to axe Grayson, with the Yorkshiremen still very much in the hunt for a play-off place.
He said: "I didn't understand the decision. I like Ken Bates a lot but I'm sorry Ken, wrong.
"You are only able to base your opinion on the results. I've seen Simon's record at Leeds and I think it's very good, so I don't know if it is something we don't know.
"Maybe that is the only situation but at the end of the day he's the chairman, he makes decisions, you live by your decisions. We'll see what happens.
"I think you can analyse if it is right or not at the end of the season."
Albion's next away game is at Leeds on Saturday week.
Comments(51)
dazzler2012
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10:31am Thu 2 Feb 12
chrisg2000
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10:38am Thu 2 Feb 12
Just because they're a big club it doesn't mean they're a better club. Gus will realise this!!
In Gus We Trust.
Gee Jay
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10:43am Thu 2 Feb 12
Why would he want to Leeds when he has his long term plan well underway here, with a very supportive chairman.
Why go and work for a grumpy old man with someone else's team and an outdated stadium.
Spurs or Chelsea maybe one day, but not now, he has so much more he wants to achieve with Brighton.
brightonup
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11:19am Thu 2 Feb 12
phumps
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11:23am Thu 2 Feb 12
mark5
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11:39am Thu 2 Feb 12
.!
mark5
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11:41am Thu 2 Feb 12
phumps wrote:I noticed that as well! But forget it as Gus WILL NOT be going to Leeds as per my last post! (famous last words!!)
am i the only one that after reading the headline has not seen in report Gus categorically rule himself out and the use of phrase we'll see what happens says to me he would not be adverse to the idea, obviously i hope i am completely wrong but i feel there were subtle hints there as to say he would consider if asked
phumps
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11:43am Thu 2 Feb 12
piogold
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11:46am Thu 2 Feb 12
Willie, Willie Irvine
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11:53am Thu 2 Feb 12
Ken in Spain
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11:54am Thu 2 Feb 12
Of course Leeds are a massive club. It wasn't that long ago they were playing in the Champions League.
They were in the Second Division when Revie took over and we all know what happened after that.
Gus has got one of the best jobs in football and he knows it. He has always said it would take something special to tempt him away. I don't think Leeds are that special at the moment but Bates is 80 so who knows what will happen in the near future?
mark5
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11:56am Thu 2 Feb 12
piogold wrote:Just keeping himself "in the market"in case Tony Bloom sacks him next week and us fans turn on him because we are not in the automatic promotion places at the turn of the year!!
"I would go back to Leeds at any time", "I like Ken Bates a lot", and "We'll see what happens ... it's a magnificent place to manage" don't seem exactly 100% to me, though anyone who'd choose to work for Ken Bates rather than Tony Bloom surely needs his head examined.
brightonup
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12:12pm Thu 2 Feb 12
cybergu11y
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12:13pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Brighton even after I am dead!!!
heathgate
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1:12pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Alan G Skinner
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1:46pm Thu 2 Feb 12
ballantrrae
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1:48pm Thu 2 Feb 12
heathgate wrote:Well spotted Heathgate.
Anybody notice that the team/injury news article on the club site doesn't even mention Vicente anymore ( among the available or unavailable players),... this has got ridiculous, there has to be a statement from the club about this... surely!!??
I agree it would be helpful if the club issued a statement but I suspect they won't.
Now that Poyet has strengthened the defence I wonder what changes both tactically and in terms of personnel Poyet might make.
To start with will he push Vokes/Barnes further forward to support CMS ? Will he reintroduce an attacking midfielder like Harley (the forgotten man) who has good passing skills but does not inspire confidence defensively ? Vicente, who should have been our attacking creative midfielder, is obviously not in the picture.
Reading between the lines it looks as if Noone won't be in the squad for Saturday but LuaLua will be. I assume Reyes is fit (he was injured recently at WBA) so I imagine he will start but I wouldn't be surprised if Mattock started on the bench.
Keep up the good work Albion on Saturday.
heathgate
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2:06pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Joey Public
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2:25pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Leeds fans have not been calling for Larry's head (his record is as good as any Leeds Manager - 50% win rate), this is yet another part of Bates systematic dismantling of a proud football club. As to the successor, the sensible move would be 'Colin' Warnock, the ambitious move would be Di Matteo - so we are likely to end up with Paul Ince or Ian Dowie.
Love Leeds Hate Bates
seagullsovergrimsby
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2:31pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Baldseagull
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2:36pm Thu 2 Feb 12
I don't pay his wages, so not my worry.
CanfieldRob
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2:55pm Thu 2 Feb 12
SEAGULLS!
heathgate
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3:06pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Baldseagull wrote:Of course you pay his wages, by your season ticket/shop and food/beer transactions. Without that wage expenditure we could easily have funded that replacement midfielder we need to feed the front players.
Stop worrying about Vicente, he will get fit or he won't. I don't pay his wages, so not my worry.
Cabin fever
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3:20pm Thu 2 Feb 12
heathgate wrote:So you know the deal he is on, how much he is paid?
Baldseagull wrote:Of course you pay his wages, by your season ticket/shop and food/beer transactions. Without that wage expenditure we could easily have funded that replacement midfielder we need to feed the front players.
Stop worrying about Vicente, he will get fit or he won't. I don't pay his wages, so not my worry.
No-one outside of the club knows what his contract is, and I think it is crazy to talk of getting rid of him. Had you considered he might just be injured, like El-Abd, Elphick, Dicker, etc, etc?
And as for Andy not mentioning it, I'm guessing its because he tries to deal in facts, rather than gossip and speculation. That was reporters do. REPORT the NEWS.
heathgate
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3:39pm Thu 2 Feb 12
If he is injured, say so, if he isnt, then A.N. should be digging to find out why he isnt playing, thats what reporters do, isn't it???
mark5
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3:48pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Joey Public wrote:You sound, quite understandably, very cynical of Bate's intentions and he certainly has a history of alienating Clubs supporters! Leeds are certainly a proud football club, and rightly so, but do you think that history raises supporters expectations about where they should be now as a team and makes any managers job a thankless task? Or is their frustration totally directed at the board and its reluctance or inability to invest in the players to take Leeds back to the big time?
I'm a Leeds fan and Gus would be insane to leave Brighton to come and work for Bates. He's doing a great job down here and has a chairman that backs him to the hilt. Leeds fans have not been calling for Larry's head (his record is as good as any Leeds Manager - 50% win rate), this is yet another part of Bates systematic dismantling of a proud football club. As to the successor, the sensible move would be 'Colin' Warnock, the ambitious move would be Di Matteo - so we are likely to end up with Paul Ince or Ian Dowie. Love Leeds Hate Bates
Cabin fever
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3:54pm Thu 2 Feb 12
heathgate wrote:I appreciate what you are saying, to a point. But if, for example, he is on a pay-as-you-play deal, he's not going to be bringing home a great deal, is he?
C.F., he will be the top earner at this club, you can bank on that.
If he is injured, say so, if he isnt, then A.N. should be digging to find out why he isnt playing, thats what reporters do, isn't it???
Frustrating as it is for us fans, I'm sure Vicente doesn't want to be injured. Gus and Tony aren't mugs - they will have the situation in hand...
HelloTeenageAmerica
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4:04pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Cabin fever wrote:Just because they are no mugs doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Exhibit Number one - Will Hoskins. To be honest, anyway, as good as Vicente is, all we did was lose when he played.
heathgate wrote: C.F., he will be the top earner at this club, you can bank on that. If he is injured, say so, if he isnt, then A.N. should be digging to find out why he isnt playing, thats what reporters do, isn't it???I appreciate what you are saying, to a point. But if, for example, he is on a pay-as-you-play deal, he's not going to be bringing home a great deal, is he? Frustrating as it is for us fans, I'm sure Vicente doesn't want to be injured. Gus and Tony aren't mugs - they will have the situation in hand...
Vince
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4:05pm Thu 2 Feb 12
With regard to Vicente, Gus is reported as saying that he had successfully come through 3 training sessions. Fingers crossed - it sounds to me as though he'll soon be back.
Vince
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4:11pm Thu 2 Feb 12
HelloTeenageAmerica wrote:Gus is singing the praises of Barnes. In my view Barnes is committed, but he doesn't have the expert first touch of Hoskins, nor does he have his astute football brain. Hopefully, Hoskins will show his skills at Sheffield, and we will either get him back with his confidence high, or we will get a very good price for him.
Cabin fever wrote:Just because they are no mugs doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Exhibit Number one - Will Hoskins. To be honest, anyway, as good as Vicente is, all we did was lose when he played.heathgate wrote: C.F., he will be the top earner at this club, you can bank on that. If he is injured, say so, if he isnt, then A.N. should be digging to find out why he isnt playing, thats what reporters do, isn't it???I appreciate what you are saying, to a point. But if, for example, he is on a pay-as-you-play deal, he's not going to be bringing home a great deal, is he? Frustrating as it is for us fans, I'm sure Vicente doesn't want to be injured. Gus and Tony aren't mugs - they will have the situation in hand...
Joey Public
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4:20pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Its difficult not to be cynical when your best players (including your local-boy captain) are continually being sold without being replaced and£7m is spent on executive boxes and a hotel in a ground that the club, allegedly, doesn't own ! Fans expectations were sufficiently downgraded by 3 yrs in League 1. However most of us can remember competing with the best in the Champions League relatively recently so the expectation will always be there but the frustration is aimed very squarely at Bates & Harvey.
HelloTeenageAmerica
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4:38pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Vince wrote:Fair point and at least he'll get playing time.
HelloTeenageAmerica wrote:Gus is singing the praises of Barnes. In my view Barnes is committed, but he doesn't have the expert first touch of Hoskins, nor does he have his astute football brain. Hopefully, Hoskins will show his skills at Sheffield, and we will either get him back with his confidence high, or we will get a very good price for him.Cabin fever wrote:Just because they are no mugs doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Exhibit Number one - Will Hoskins. To be honest, anyway, as good as Vicente is, all we did was lose when he played.heathgate wrote: C.F., he will be the top earner at this club, you can bank on that. If he is injured, say so, if he isnt, then A.N. should be digging to find out why he isnt playing, thats what reporters do, isn't it???I appreciate what you are saying, to a point. But if, for example, he is on a pay-as-you-play deal, he's not going to be bringing home a great deal, is he? Frustrating as it is for us fans, I'm sure Vicente doesn't want to be injured. Gus and Tony aren't mugs - they will have the situation in hand...
Billyboyarnold
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4:40pm Thu 2 Feb 12
davidinsouthampton
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4:46pm Thu 2 Feb 12
sussexram40
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5:05pm Thu 2 Feb 12
ballantrrae
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5:26pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Billyboyarnold wrote:Interesting info BbArnold. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it happened.
Gus is going nowhere, Huddersfield Boss is the man Bates wants. That is the latest from the Yorkshire News Room. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.
I just wonder what the two young Falkirk guys (Wallace who we were after being one) who have just signed for Huddersfield will think if Clark goes to Leeds.
Going back to a comment that Heathgate made in an earlier posting on this thread about his being sure that Vicente didn't 'want to be injured', it just occured to me that perhaps that's why he isn't playing - ie he doesn't want to get injured !
As others have said, Poyet has a fantastic opportunity with the Albion. He has the chance to establish a team in his image and become a fixture like Wenger and Ferguson. Such opportunities rarely present themselves and he would be stupid (which I don't think he is) not to grasp and hold on to it with both hands.
Hovite
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6:16pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Gus still has a lot to prove "to himself" as a manager, and he would never have better oppertunity than to prove himself with Brighton.
This is all his own work here, starting from scratch, so stepping into a new club is not an option for him!
Also this is the only club where one day he "might" have a statue outside a stadium in his honour.
namgo49
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7:02pm Thu 2 Feb 12
The only reason Bates got rid of him is that he knows he can pick up a very successful manager at getting clubs out of the Championship without paying a wack in compensation. Warnock will be confirmed there within the week.
Anyway GP did not endear himself to a lot of people there when he left for Tottenham, witness his bust up with their Asst. Manager last time they played there.
suede27
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8:16pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Hovite
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8:35pm Thu 2 Feb 12
suede out Poyet in!
albionwarrior
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8:35pm Thu 2 Feb 12
suede27 wrote:idiot posting again go back to south London where you belong
Take the job, Gus. Please
PressBoxTeaBoy
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10:30pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Leeds were once a BIG club with BIG pockets.
Now they are a BIG club with small pockets.
As I posted yesterday, whoever takes that job is on a hiding to nothing. The Bates remit for a manager is someone that can win promotion THIS season, with the current squad, or face the sack in June. That's why he's taken the ridiculous decision to throw Grayson out. Another decent Manager trying to work within some fairly tight financial restrictions, and still in touch for a play off place. Bates is an idiotica humongouside !
Who, of any great stature in the game realistically wants that job ?
pte
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10:30pm Thu 2 Feb 12
namgo49 wrote:Other way round, Leeds didnt endear themselves to Gus LOL.
I spoke to a lifelong Leeds fan today and he is gutted at the way Grayson has been treated. Their wage bill is high but they don't spend anything on players and he has had some of his best go this season.
The only reason Bates got rid of him is that he knows he can pick up a very successful manager at getting clubs out of the Championship without paying a wack in compensation. Warnock will be confirmed there within the week.
Anyway GP did not endear himself to a lot of people there when he left for Tottenham, witness his bust up with their Asst. Manager last time they played there.
When passed over for the managers job, he jumped befor he was pushed
Seagull John
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6:28am Fri 3 Feb 12
Vince wrote:Luckily it is Gus's view that counts, not yours! Presumably you watched Hoskins before he came here as he hasn't even played a full game for us yet!
HelloTeenageAmerica wrote:Gus is singing the praises of Barnes. In my view Barnes is committed, but he doesn't have the expert first touch of Hoskins, nor does he have his astute football brain. Hopefully, Hoskins will show his skills at Sheffield, and we will either get him back with his confidence high, or we will get a very good price for him.
Cabin fever wrote:Just because they are no mugs doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Exhibit Number one - Will Hoskins. To be honest, anyway, as good as Vicente is, all we did was lose when he played.heathgate wrote: C.F., he will be the top earner at this club, you can bank on that. If he is injured, say so, if he isnt, then A.N. should be digging to find out why he isnt playing, thats what reporters do, isn't it???I appreciate what you are saying, to a point. But if, for example, he is on a pay-as-you-play deal, he's not going to be bringing home a great deal, is he? Frustrating as it is for us fans, I'm sure Vicente doesn't want to be injured. Gus and Tony aren't mugs - they will have the situation in hand...
tooncgull
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1:12pm Fri 3 Feb 12
More seriously - at any point in the last 40 years, a manager would have been silly not to joing Leeds from Brighton, career wise. But NOW? Leeds are a big club, but are currently a shambles, players being sold in the transfer window... an unhappy club.
Albion are the vey opposite at this time. He has a project, its underway, its going well, its on target, he has the support of Bloom and all at the club, the fans.. It just doesnt make sense to go to Leeds at this point in time. Hope Im right.
seagulljoe
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2:06pm Fri 3 Feb 12
heathgate wrote:More recently, I've seen people on NSC saying we should just leave the Vicente issue, let it rest and what will be will be, which is my stance on it.
Andy Naylor must be under a gagging order or something, its a hot topic that fans here and on NSC discuss at length, but there is nothing emerging from the club or the Argus about it.
There was an article on Vicente last week (I think, could've been week before), which told us how he was in a race to be fit for the following Saturday's game. However, that was then met with derision by people asking why the hell was he still injured, so it's damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Hovite
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2:27pm Fri 3 Feb 12
I would say though, although it was handball, the ball did bounce off his leg, and his arms were raised to protect him from his impact from the collision with our other player. Dunk or Greer I think.
I think Brez would have saved it anyway ;o)
seagulljoe
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2:31pm Fri 3 Feb 12
suede27 wrote:you burnt your own town, you burnt your own town, you silly b@5t@rd, you burnt your own town!
Take the job, Gus. Please
Captain Haddock
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3:33am Sat 4 Feb 12
seagulljoe wrote:HahaZ Loved that song from Tues night.
suede27 wrote:you burnt your own town, you burnt your own town, you silly b@5t@rd, you burnt your own town!
Take the job, Gus. Please
Dave5434
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1:01pm Sun 5 Feb 12
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