It's madness, says Poyet, as Albion grab late winner (From The Argus)
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It's madness, says Poyet, as Albion grab late winner
6:45pm Saturday 4th February 2012 in Albion By Brian Owen
Vicente supplied the cross for Will Buckley's goal (photo Simon Dack)
Gus Poyet tonight savoured more late drama - and a "crazy" second half at The Amex.
The Albion boss saw his side make it 13 points from five games in 2012 when Will Buckley converted a Vicente cross to beat Leicester 1-0.
Buckley's strike in front of the North Stand came as the game ticked into six added minutes.
Jermine Beckford (Leicester) and Matt Sparrow (Albion) had already received straight red cards.
Leicester midfielder Neil Danns joined them in the final moments for a second yellow.
Poyet said: "We knew it would be very difficult, with the quality and strength of Leicester and the quantity of players they have who have played at the highest level, so we needed to be very good.
"The first half was a proper football game, which I like to see. Not too many chances, two very good teams, organised and difficult to break down.
"The second half was crazy, absolute madness, but at the end in these kind of games you need to take the points."
Beckford was dismissed on the advice of an assistant referee after approaching the grounded Lewis Dunk.
Poyet reviewed footage of the incident with his opposite number Nigel Pearson after the game.
The Albion boss said: "I didn't see it during the game. The first surprise was the referee gave the free-kick and then he flagged. Afterwards (on video) it didn't look that bad."
Matt Sparrow could miss the FA Cup tie at Liverpool after being sent-off for a foul on Ben Marshall but Poyet hinted the club might appeal.
He said: "I don't know what the outcome is going to be.
"If it was a two-footed tackle, wrong, because it was clear it was one, then we'll see what they say."
Comments(78)
Cabin fever
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6:53pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Claude Back
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7:44pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Over £2 million?
PressBoxTeaBoy
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7:44pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Tremendously close race for the play off spots is wide open to many clubs, but realistically what seemed like a complete impossibility of auto promotion for many clubs is now firmly back on the cards.
Four games down the road from here who knows what the table will look like then ?
golddene
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7:45pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Cabin fever wrote:you are so right cf i was going to post something similar but you have said it all. enjoy your pie you doubters.
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again:
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
wiseman of hove
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7:51pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Claude Back wrote:We just have to make sure we go up this year otherwise Will is heading for the Premiership in the close season.
Buckley cost £1million; Cardiff offered £1.25 million for Noone, so how much is Buckers worth then with his capacity to score goals...match winning goals too?
Over £2 million?
PressBoxTeaBoy
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7:59pm Sat 4 Feb 12
we're on a roll, 2.17 points per game, same as what saw us promoted last season.
1. Birmingham.
2. Brighton.
3. Blackpool.
4. Derby.
5. Reading.
6. West Ham.
7. Burnley.
8. Cardiff.
9. Leeds.
10. Barnsley.
11. Watford.
12. Bristol Cty
13. Leicester.
14. Pompey.
15. Ipswich.
16. Stains.
17. Hull.
18. Coventry.
19. Palace.
20. Donny.
21. Peterborough.
22. Forest.
23. Middlesbrough.
24. Millwall.
Dave in Hastings
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8:17pm Sat 4 Feb 12
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:I do love an optimist PBTB. Trouble is I think the likes of Stains and West Ham etc will bounce back from their current blip. We can dream though... :-D
Current form table: statto.com.
we're on a roll, 2.17 points per game, same as what saw us promoted last season.
1. Birmingham.
2. Brighton.
3. Blackpool.
4. Derby.
5. Reading.
6. West Ham.
7. Burnley.
8. Cardiff.
9. Leeds.
10. Barnsley.
11. Watford.
12. Bristol Cty
13. Leicester.
14. Pompey.
15. Ipswich.
16. Stains.
17. Hull.
18. Coventry.
19. Palace.
20. Donny.
21. Peterborough.
22. Forest.
23. Middlesbrough.
24. Millwall.
SelseyBoy
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8:26pm Sat 4 Feb 12
keswick
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8:38pm Sat 4 Feb 12
gordongull
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8:39pm Sat 4 Feb 12
There have also been a few light-hearted attempts at humour, none of them malicious.
We should draw a line under all of that, and appreciate the exceptional talent that Vicente brings to the side.
While it seems unlikely that he will play for ninety minutes, or on a regular basis, his contribution can clearly have a major influence on our season.
hubby
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8:50pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Portlock Seagull
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9:08pm Sat 4 Feb 12
gordongull wrote:Here here. If there's one thing worse than people moaning its people crowing over the moaners when eventually something goes their way. The former should learn some patience; the latter some humility. Alternatively just shut up and enjoy the moment!
In the absence of any tangible prognosis for Vicente, speculation about his motives, commitment, and psychology was inevitable.
There have also been a few light-hearted attempts at humour, none of them malicious.
We should draw a line under all of that, and appreciate the exceptional talent that Vicente brings to the side.
While it seems unlikely that he will play for ninety minutes, or on a regular basis, his contribution can clearly have a major influence on our season.
Viva Vicente!!
Hovite
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9:43pm Sat 4 Feb 12
golddene wrote:Saved me the time as well Cabs, thanks buddy
Cabin fever wrote:you are so right cf i was going to post something similar but you have said it all. enjoy your pie you doubters.
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again:
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
seagull31
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9:47pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Cabin fever wrote:Great to have Vicente back, big boost. I think most people have been fairly light hearted about his whereabouts over the last few months so no need to get on your high horse.
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again:
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
Vince
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9:59pm Sat 4 Feb 12
The only downside, for me is the continued failure by the midfield players not being alert to CMS' runs. Just before he was substituted, I saw him gesticulating in total frustration at another failed opportunity by a midfield player to pick him out. CMS should have been on the pitch with Vicente as I'm sure the extra attacking impetus and invention would have suited him perfectly, and what better time to get him scoring again.
Until Vicente came on, there was a total lack of creativity from midfield. most of the passes go out to the wings.
OK the team played well defensively, and it was a highly competitive and entertaining game, with a great finish to it, but we are crying out for intelligent passes FORWARD from midfield to CMS. At last we got it from Vicente - a touch of class with a great finish from Buckley, but CMS was not there to PROFIT from the EXTRA SPACE and SERVICE.”
Also I thought Vokes was brought in to partner CMS not Barnes?!!!
I would feel totally p***ed off if i was CMS. All season he's run his guts off, foraging alone, chasing lost causes, without complaining. Now as soon as we get more forward players on the field, he is the one making way for them! Totally unfair in my book.
findon seagull
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10:16pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Vincente is different gravy watching from the east stand right in line with the cross he made for the goal was world class.
I thought Gus was brave today doing a Blackpool making 3 subs and going for the win it needed something like that to change the game, i was dissapointed with Leicester after all the millions spent by Sven with a decent manager they should have steam rollered this divison.
Feel a bit for CMS the goals will come just needs one to go in off a backside or something
pwlr1966
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10:24pm Sat 4 Feb 12
fratsomrover
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10:25pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Vince wrote:I agree Vince, I think Vincente could be the ideal player to provide ammo for CMS. He's one of the few midfielders who looks forward first. Would also like to see CMS partner Vokes. For me Navs is not creative enough, especially alongside Bridcutt. Both are holding midfielders and are not very good in the final third. We only need one of them on the pitch.
Fantastic goal - created by Vicente - finished superbly by Buckley (who else?) - to win an absorbing match.
The only downside, for me is the continued failure by the midfield players not being alert to CMS' runs. Just before he was substituted, I saw him gesticulating in total frustration at another failed opportunity by a midfield player to pick him out. CMS should have been on the pitch with Vicente as I'm sure the extra attacking impetus and invention would have suited him perfectly, and what better time to get him scoring again.
Until Vicente came on, there was a total lack of creativity from midfield. most of the passes go out to the wings.
OK the team played well defensively, and it was a highly competitive and entertaining game, with a great finish to it, but we are crying out for intelligent passes FORWARD from midfield to CMS. At last we got it from Vicente - a touch of class with a great finish from Buckley, but CMS was not there to PROFIT from the EXTRA SPACE and SERVICE.”
Also I thought Vokes was brought in to partner CMS not Barnes?!!!
I would feel totally p***ed off if i was CMS. All season he's run his guts off, foraging alone, chasing lost causes, without complaining. Now as soon as we get more forward players on the field, he is the one making way for them! Totally unfair in my book.
Noone, Buckley, Vincente, Vokes and CMS could be an interesting attacking option. Wonder if we'll ever see them on the pitch together ? I also think El Abd is better than Dunk and would do better alongside Greer. Then Reyes and Mattock could fill the full-back spots
hayno19
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11:32pm Sat 4 Feb 12
cybergu11y
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12:03am Sun 5 Feb 12
Hovite wrote:And me!
golddene wrote:Saved me the time as well Cabs, thanks buddy
Cabin fever wrote:you are so right cf i was going to post something similar but you have said it all. enjoy your pie you doubters.
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again:
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
Brighton even after I am dead!!!
PressBoxTeaBoy
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12:20am Sun 5 Feb 12
I think Caskey has a more forward looking midfield brain versus Navarro's defensive holding style.
Perhaps Gus is trying to protect Caskey from too much too soon, but for me he's a creative option that Navarro isn't .
cybergu11y
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12:50am Sun 5 Feb 12
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:I think you answer your own comment Pressboy, Gus needs to protect such a young talent. not just protect but also keep him keen. Plenty more time for him, Vicente today showed we have a better option but JFC's time is nigh, an excellent understudy.
In the "who should play instead of " debate, I was a little puzzled by Navarro starting ahead of Caskey.
I think Caskey has a more forward looking midfield brain versus Navarro's defensive holding style.
Perhaps Gus is trying to protect Caskey from too much too soon, but for me he's a creative option that Navarro isn't .
Brighton even after I am dead!!!
seagulljoe
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12:58am Sun 5 Feb 12
We didn't start too well but then once we settled into the game we looked good and we were looking very threatening going forward, mainly through Matty Sparrow. The last 20 mins of the 1st half we were all over them and should've scored, especially with the headed opportunity from Barnesy. I think he was in 2 minds what to do - go for goal or head it to CMS, and he ended up doing neither. Ash, had some very frustrating moments today, but then also looked very good at times as well.
GG continues to be captain fantastic at the back - some of the challenges he puts in are world class and he's making some decent passes too.
I thought our new players looked good and Mattock looks very comfortable on the ball.
Vicente was the difference today, we needed his class and hopefully we will see it many more times this season, as he will make a massive difference and, who knows, could be the key to promotion.
Bucket feet Duffy
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1:17am Sun 5 Feb 12
Vicente is one of those players that given a sustained period of fitness could along with the latest signings and the in form players give us that extra bit of class to open up the opposition what a joy it is to be an Albion fan at the moment!
brightonup
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7:56am Sun 5 Feb 12
cybergu11y wrote:Gus has said Navarro is one of the most football-intelligent players in the league, so obviously is inclined to use him - but apart from one or two positions, i.e. Greer, Brezovan, CMS, Dunk etc - I really think Gus is inclined to rotate according to who he thinks will be most effective, in form etc.
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote: In the "who should play instead of " debate, I was a little puzzled by Navarro starting ahead of Caskey. I think Caskey has a more forward looking midfield brain versus Navarro's defensive holding style. Perhaps Gus is trying to protect Caskey from too much too soon, but for me he's a creative option that Navarro isn't .I think you answer your own comment Pressboy, Gus needs to protect such a young talent. not just protect but also keep him keen. Plenty more time for him, Vicente today showed we have a better option but JFC's time is nigh, an excellent understudy. Brighton even after I am dead!!!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:17am Sun 5 Feb 12
Small glimmers for us of a return to form, hope so, our dip has been too long now.
Sometime ago we were all over each others sites giving it abuse and in the end it became repetitive, boring and offensive. It was so bad it drove many away.
It was started by PressBoxTeaBoy then and he's trying to do it again now. We didn't hear from him when we were doing well but our downturn has brought his abusiveness back. It will only result in retaliation, don't know about you but I'd prefer not to go back to all that homophobic rubbish. Let's stick to more friendly banter, GordonGull is always welcome.
Cabin fever
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8:25am Sun 5 Feb 12
seagull31 wrote:So no-one on here was calling for his contract to be terminated? Or for the club to come out and explain what is wrong with him?
Cabin fever wrote:Great to have Vicente back, big boost. I think most people have been fairly light hearted about his whereabouts over the last few months so no need to get on your high horse.
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again:
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
Doesn't sound light-hearted to me, I'm afraid...
tonytowner1
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8:41am Sun 5 Feb 12
seagull31
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8:58am Sun 5 Feb 12
Cabin fever wrote:Gus signed a player with a reputation for being injured, where previous coaching staff had claimed that part of the issue was physiological. He then comes in gets injured after just a few minutes of football. So it is no wonder that some people started asking questions especially with all the constant promised comebacks, will he won't he type chat that is reported in the argus. I stand by me comment though - most people seem to have treated the whole situation in a light hearted way. Incidentally, I don't think asking the club to explain what is wrong with him would have been as much of a crime as you seem to imply!
seagull31 wrote:So no-one on here was calling for his contract to be terminated? Or for the club to come out and explain what is wrong with him?
Cabin fever wrote:Great to have Vicente back, big boost. I think most people have been fairly light hearted about his whereabouts over the last few months so no need to get on your high horse.
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again:
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
Doesn't sound light-hearted to me, I'm afraid...
Alfie T
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9:00am Sun 5 Feb 12
hayno19 wrote:Agree with you Dunk for his age is outstanding and with Greer look very solid, El-abd is a centre half but third choice IMO
cant agree with that mate lewis dunk has been awesome this season especially since xmas, the physical players that hes had in his back pocket has been a joy to see!!
cybergu11y
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9:07am Sun 5 Feb 12
Cabin fever wrote:With you there Cabin Fever, it was pretty sad to say the least. Supporters, support, every one else google smellhurst and get to croydon.
seagull31 wrote:So no-one on here was calling for his contract to be terminated? Or for the club to come out and explain what is wrong with him?
Cabin fever wrote:Great to have Vicente back, big boost. I think most people have been fairly light hearted about his whereabouts over the last few months so no need to get on your high horse.
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again:
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
Doesn't sound light-hearted to me, I'm afraid...
Brighton even after i am dead!!!
Alfie T
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9:09am Sun 5 Feb 12
pwlr1966 wrote:Agree,the catering after a promising start is heading down hill, little or no hot food available at half time,timing issues here I think.
I love the Albion & I love the match day experience but I hate AZURE catering, what a complete farce today Re hot food in WSU concourse. Shape up or ship out
Gazza by the sea
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9:16am Sun 5 Feb 12
Captain Haddock
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10:03am Sun 5 Feb 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Alright Seedy. Haven been on The Echo recently. I agree with you though. Light-hearted banter only is the way.
Hi guys, excellent run good to see you doing well.
Small glimmers for us of a return to form, hope so, our dip has been too long now.
Sometime ago we were all over each others sites giving it abuse and in the end it became repetitive, boring and offensive. It was so bad it drove many away.
It was started by PressBoxTeaBoy then and he's trying to do it again now. We didn't hear from him when we were doing well but our downturn has brought his abusiveness back. It will only result in retaliation, don't know about you but I'd prefer not to go back to all that homophobic rubbish. Let's stick to more friendly banter, GordonGull is always welcome.
PressBox, what do you say, chap? Ease off our stuttering pals from down the road a bit?! ;0)
I see we are only seven behind you in the second automatic spot again now, Seedy!
Captain Haddock
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10:17am Sun 5 Feb 12
How's it for you guys?
SelseyBoy
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10:35am Sun 5 Feb 12
Captain Haddock wrote:Tense but awesome :D
Greer, Dunk, Bridcutt, Reyes? Mattock? Forster-Caskey, Vicente The Dagger, Noone, LuaLua, Buckley, CMS and possibly some of the others could all easily form part of a half-decent PL squad. We are building nicely towards that eventual future! Dont know about you lot but i'm blimmin' lovin' this season! All those home cup draws to help us settle into our Grand Design of a new home, the tie at 'Pool, the signing of £m+ players and the sublime if occasional cameos from world class Vicente + the great quality of food, drink, merchandise (inevitably award-winning!!!) programmes and the ever increasing camaraderie im enjoying from the growing list of people I seem to know at the footy is making for an incredible feel good factor....and I don't think our footy has reached anywhere near its peak yet either!
How's it for you guys?
tonytowner1
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11:13am Sun 5 Feb 12
Alfie T wrote:Yep - north west end lower concourse - understaffed, out of food, tills not open/ manned and it's 0 degrees Celsius and the fans want hot drinks and food in a not quite full stadium - not too much too ask is it? Hopefully once the extra 8,000 fans are in The Amex Azure will have it all sussed. The amounts of money lost from people giving up buying or bothering to buy food/ drinks is clearly far more than it would cost them to get some more staff in. It lets the stadium down
pwlr1966 wrote:Agree,the catering after a promising start is heading down hill, little or no hot food available at half time,timing issues here I think.
I love the Albion & I love the match day experience but I hate AZURE catering, what a complete farce today Re hot food in WSU concourse. Shape up or ship out
Hovite
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11:43am Sun 5 Feb 12
Captain Haddock wrote:Always nervous, still waiting for us to piece it together. Swansea is the style of play we are trying to emulate, and if this is the end result, I am looking forward to it.
Greer, Dunk, Bridcutt, Reyes? Mattock? Forster-Caskey, Vicente The Dagger, Noone, LuaLua, Buckley, CMS and possibly some of the others could all easily form part of a half-decent PL squad. We are building nicely towards that eventual future! Dont know about you lot but i'm blimmin' lovin' this season! All those home cup draws to help us settle into our Grand Design of a new home, the tie at 'Pool, the signing of £m+ players and the sublime if occasional cameos from world class Vicente + the great quality of food, drink, merchandise (inevitably award-winning!!!) programmes and the ever increasing camaraderie im enjoying from the growing list of people I seem to know at the footy is making for an incredible feel good factor....and I don't think our footy has reached anywhere near its peak yet either!
How's it for you guys?
Each game is a flip of a coin at the mo, but I will take all the lucky results just to extend our season.
It is also a little painful but that’s football, I can live with it.
Fascinating season, can’t keep my eyes off the table and all the other results.
Tommy from the Amex
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12:04pm Sun 5 Feb 12
tonytowner1 wrote:Bloody hell ! The moaning about catering has spread here now ! Thought it was just the NSC nuggets who spent life moaning and complaining about such small issues ! It's so boring !!! Me, I go to watch the football , call me crazy but I thought that's what the stadium was for ???
Alfie T wrote:Yep - north west end lower concourse - understaffed, out of food, tills not open/ manned and it's 0 degrees Celsius and the fans want hot drinks and food in a not quite full stadium - not too much too ask is it? Hopefully once the extra 8,000 fans are in The Amex Azure will have it all sussed. The amounts of money lost from people giving up buying or bothering to buy food/ drinks is clearly far more than it would cost them to get some more staff in. It lets the stadium down
pwlr1966 wrote:Agree,the catering after a promising start is heading down hill, little or no hot food available at half time,timing issues here I think.
I love the Albion & I love the match day experience but I hate AZURE catering, what a complete farce today Re hot food in WSU concourse. Shape up or ship out
Alfie T
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12:16pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Hovite wrote:Every home match now is so much more than just a game of football,it's a whole community experience,before,du
Captain Haddock wrote:Always nervous, still waiting for us to piece it together. Swansea is the style of play we are trying to emulate, and if this is the end result, I am looking forward to it.
Greer, Dunk, Bridcutt, Reyes? Mattock? Forster-Caskey, Vicente The Dagger, Noone, LuaLua, Buckley, CMS and possibly some of the others could all easily form part of a half-decent PL squad. We are building nicely towards that eventual future! Dont know about you lot but i'm blimmin' lovin' this season! All those home cup draws to help us settle into our Grand Design of a new home, the tie at 'Pool, the signing of £m+ players and the sublime if occasional cameos from world class Vicente + the great quality of food, drink, merchandise (inevitably award-winning!!!) programmes and the ever increasing camaraderie im enjoying from the growing list of people I seem to know at the footy is making for an incredible feel good factor....and I don't think our footy has reached anywhere near its peak yet either!
How's it for you guys?
Each game is a flip of a coin at the mo, but I will take all the lucky results just to extend our season.
It is also a little painful but that’s football, I can live with it.
Fascinating season, can’t keep my eyes off the table and all the other results.
ring, and after the game. The buzz is fantastic, atmosphere awesome. And our football style I wouldn't change for anything. I watched the West Ham Millwall game at the Amex, such predictable rubbish,the only thing keeping West Ham at the top is the money spent for a quick return. Big Sam will be gone when they are back in the premiership. I for one don't think we have been lucky with results,I personally think our style just baffles the opposition, our passing game is alien to most, others are more comfortable and cope with the the long ball up to a target man. I for one know which brand I prefer. What a fantastic experience this first year at the Amex has been.
Hovite
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12:34pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Dave5434
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1:07pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Whilst Poyet is no doubt a top manager he will eventually leave us at some point. this much is inevitable. However, its all very well appointing one class manager but the trick to success is appointing two class managers in a row. If I were Tony Bloom I would constantly have a short list of the top up an coming managers in the country. Just in case, you know. If Poyet were to leave its not the end of the world. I would simply appoint his good friend roberto Di Matteo as his sucessor (if he can be persuaded to leave Chelsea). He worked wonders at West Brom and they were silly to sack him. We should also be in a position now whereby we are a big enough club to do our own poaching of managers. MK Dons manager is class. So too in my opinion is Lee Clark of Huddersfield. Or how about a cheeky bid for David Moyes of Everton? Everton used to be a big club but Moyes must be frustrated to have virtually no money to spend and working on a shoe string budget. How about a fresh challenge? Everton are the past, Brighton are the future. You create your own history in life. And by creating history you become a "big club".
seagulljoe
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1:12pm Sun 5 Feb 12
But there were a few that said some things that were completely unjust, such as MBTS's 'I hope he hangs his head in shame when he walks into training'; that was a shameful comment and I gave Mark the criticism he deserved for that.
I think there are very few, if any, professional footballers that don't actually want to play football and I am pretty sure that Vicente is not one of them.
And pressboxteaboy - if you are doing that on the Echo site, then leave it out, it's pathetic.
tandseagalsamantha
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1:27pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Cabin fever wrote:i think people just wanted to see him playing BECAUSE of his undoubted class, its so frustrating to have a man with that kind of talent sitting in the physios room constanstly. That said if he plays now until the end of the season we could seriously be looking at a shot at promotion and his sick note label would soon be forgotten. come on you seagulls!!!!!!
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again:
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
albionwarrior
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2:30pm Sun 5 Feb 12
seagulljoe wrote:strange mbts is never posting now,wonder why lol
re the Vicente issue - I think as this progressed more people were taking a light-hearted view of it, ie Mark5 and his 'hologram' comment; made me chuckle!
But there were a few that said some things that were completely unjust, such as MBTS's 'I hope he hangs his head in shame when he walks into training'; that was a shameful comment and I gave Mark the criticism he deserved for that.
I think there are very few, if any, professional footballers that don't actually want to play football and I am pretty sure that Vicente is not one of them.
And pressboxteaboy - if you are doing that on the Echo site, then leave it out, it's pathetic.
seagull31
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2:48pm Sun 5 Feb 12
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:It is very exciting, glad we have the momentum now. I'm afraid I don't quite see it as you do though - we are fighting for 6th place, very hard to see anymore than that (and that's fine with me, if we get in there who knows). Automatic promotion would need, based on points to date and previous seasons, around 84 points. That would mean 2.3 points a game for the rest of the season, which just ain't gonna happen in this division! We'd be unlucky to miss out on the playoffs with 75 points, that means 1.76 points a game... Tough in this division, but doable... Things can obviously change, but at the moment it's hard to see anyone currently in the playoffs, except Middlesbrough, falling out. That leaves Leeds, Reading, Hull all chasing it along with us (I'm not looking below us!)
Another perfect weekend, we're only six points off of the 2nd place auto spot, occupied by the ever shrinking sickly Stains who have secured only 6 points from the last 6 lge games.
Tremendously close race for the play off spots is wide open to many clubs, but realistically what seemed like a complete impossibility of auto promotion for many clubs is now firmly back on the cards.
Four games down the road from here who knows what the table will look like then ?
rolivan
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3:02pm Sun 5 Feb 12
albionwarrior wrote:Maybe he has morphed.
seagulljoe wrote:strange mbts is never posting now,wonder why lol
re the Vicente issue - I think as this progressed more people were taking a light-hearted view of it, ie Mark5 and his 'hologram' comment; made me chuckle!
But there were a few that said some things that were completely unjust, such as MBTS's 'I hope he hangs his head in shame when he walks into training'; that was a shameful comment and I gave Mark the criticism he deserved for that.
I think there are very few, if any, professional footballers that don't actually want to play football and I am pretty sure that Vicente is not one of them.
And pressboxteaboy - if you are doing that on the Echo site, then leave it out, it's pathetic.
The club is going from strength to strength, with the squad evolving as the funds(budget constraints)become available from income.We are able to keep players and only sell if they want to go and the price is right, and bring in quality players.Whatever happens this year there will be more changes with loan to buy players and permanent deals in the summer and unfortunately a few that helped us get Promotion to the Championship will go.
PressBoxTeaBoy
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3:21pm Sun 5 Feb 12
seagulljoe wrote:Oh, yes sir, no sir, parden me sir.
re the Vicente issue - I think as this progressed more people were taking a light-hearted view of it, ie Mark5 and his 'hologram' comment; made me chuckle!
But there were a few that said some things that were completely unjust, such as MBTS's 'I hope he hangs his head in shame when he walks into training'; that was a shameful comment and I gave Mark the criticism he deserved for that.
I think there are very few, if any, professional footballers that don't actually want to play football and I am pretty sure that Vicente is not one of them.
And pressboxteaboy - if you are doing that on the Echo site, then leave it out, it's pathetic.
gordongull
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3:22pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:PressBoxTeaBoy is one of the most perceptive and readable contributors to the Argus site, but his brain seems to go on holiday where Southampton is concerned.
Hi guys, excellent run good to see you doing well.
Small glimmers for us of a return to form, hope so, our dip has been too long now.
Sometime ago we were all over each others sites giving it abuse and in the end it became repetitive, boring and offensive. It was so bad it drove many away.
It was started by PressBoxTeaBoy then and he's trying to do it again now. We didn't hear from him when we were doing well but our downturn has brought his abusiveness back. It will only result in retaliation, don't know about you but I'd prefer not to go back to all that homophobic rubbish. Let's stick to more friendly banter, GordonGull is always welcome.
O.k. There is bit of history between us over the last couple of seasons, but it had all settled down until now. WE ARE NOT RIVALS, and I think the vast majority on this site would resent anyone who's actions turn our site into a battleground.
''Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.''
I think Isaac Newton said that.
''We'll respect your site, if you respect ours.''
I said that :)
seagulljoe
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3:42pm Sun 5 Feb 12
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:good lad
seagulljoe wrote:Oh, yes sir, no sir, parden me sir.
re the Vicente issue - I think as this progressed more people were taking a light-hearted view of it, ie Mark5 and his 'hologram' comment; made me chuckle!
But there were a few that said some things that were completely unjust, such as MBTS's 'I hope he hangs his head in shame when he walks into training'; that was a shameful comment and I gave Mark the criticism he deserved for that.
I think there are very few, if any, professional footballers that don't actually want to play football and I am pretty sure that Vicente is not one of them.
And pressboxteaboy - if you are doing that on the Echo site, then leave it out, it's pathetic.
gordongull
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4:10pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Also thanks for the vote of confidence in my scribblings on the Echo.
Not a bad point last night in the snow. It probably won't get any harder than that.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
saraman
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4:23pm Sun 5 Feb 12
gordongull wrote:You can be in my dream if I can be in yours. Bob Dylan said that.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:PressBoxTeaBoy is one of the most perceptive and readable contributors to the Argus site, but his brain seems to go on holiday where Southampton is concerned.
Hi guys, excellent run good to see you doing well.
Small glimmers for us of a return to form, hope so, our dip has been too long now.
Sometime ago we were all over each others sites giving it abuse and in the end it became repetitive, boring and offensive. It was so bad it drove many away.
It was started by PressBoxTeaBoy then and he's trying to do it again now. We didn't hear from him when we were doing well but our downturn has brought his abusiveness back. It will only result in retaliation, don't know about you but I'd prefer not to go back to all that homophobic rubbish. Let's stick to more friendly banter, GordonGull is always welcome.
O.k. There is bit of history between us over the last couple of seasons, but it had all settled down until now. WE ARE NOT RIVALS, and I think the vast majority on this site would resent anyone who's actions turn our site into a battleground.
''Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.''
I think Isaac Newton said that.
''We'll respect your site, if you respect ours.''
I said that :)
gordongull
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4:27pm Sun 5 Feb 12
brightonup
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5:56pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Thank you Seedhouse.
Hi guys, excellent run good to see you doing well. Small glimmers for us of a return to form, hope so, our dip has been too long now. Sometime ago we were all over each others sites giving it abuse and in the end it became repetitive, boring and offensive. It was so bad it drove many away. It was started by PressBoxTeaBoy then and he's trying to do it again now. We didn't hear from him when we were doing well but our downturn has brought his abusiveness back. It will only result in retaliation, don't know about you but I'd prefer not to go back to all that homophobic rubbish. Let's stick to more friendly banter, GordonGull is always welcome.
I was one who was temporarily driven away by a Saints invasion of this site and would be pleased to avoid a repetition.
Obviously none of us can legislate against what others do, but I hope for the sake of those who wish to use the sites for positive debate about our respective clubs, we avoid what happened before.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
seagulljoe
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6:49pm Sun 5 Feb 12
mark5
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7:29pm Sun 5 Feb 12
gordongull wrote:Yes, I must confess that I almost fell off my seat when the 'real life Vicente' came on and had to rub my eyes at the wondrous vision before me! His contribution for the time he was on was superb and his pass for Buckleys winner first class. Will we now see him more regularly? I hope so, and I really hope that my well documented thoughts about him are swept aside by regularly witnessing the talent we all know he has. If so, I may have to hang my head in shame, and leave these forums, being cast out into the wilderness for ever doubting This man and his committment.........
In the absence of any tangible prognosis for Vicente, speculation about his motives, commitment, and psychology was inevitable.
There have also been a few light-hearted attempts at humour, none of them malicious.
We should draw a line under all of that, and appreciate the exceptional talent that Vicente brings to the side.
While it seems unlikely that he will play for ninety minutes, or on a regular basis, his contribution can clearly have a major influence on our season.
....!!!
I thought we thoroughly deserved our win today. Despite some off the comments to the contrary, we passed better and had more shots on goal than Leicester who are nevertheless a classy side and play a similar style to us.
Mattock looks an excellent signing, has a good touch and not afraid to run at the others defence. Looks like we have a decent squad for a the run in!!
bentnup
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7:44pm Sun 5 Feb 12
I dont choose to write rubbish on their site (I reserve that honour for ours!), but if any of their so called fans want to write on here - fine read and delete, don't be too sensitive. All good positive stuff can become boring (esp when you keep losing.....just ask Mouthampton !) hahaha
gordongull
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7:52pm Sun 5 Feb 12
''We grind teams down by passing the ball and tiring the opposition out, so we know that we're going to get chances towards the end and we did it again today.''
Where were Leicester's Match-winners, capable of turning a game with a flash of brilliance, and an inspired finish?
Exactly!
We had them, and they didn't.
A few days in the wilderness should do the trick, Mark5.
If you bump into Mark By The Sea, maybe you could bring him in with you :)
gordongull
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8:01pm Sun 5 Feb 12
bentnup wrote:From a purely pragmatic viewpoint, if we don't want open warfare breaking out on the site, slagging off other clubs isn't the way to go.
Its called freedom of speech. Mouthampton not our rivals????? Everyone in the league are our rivals!
I dont choose to write rubbish on their site (I reserve that honour for ours!), but if any of their so called fans want to write on here - fine read and delete, don't be too sensitive. All good positive stuff can become boring (esp when you keep losing.....just ask Mouthampton !) hahaha
mark5
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8:18pm Sun 5 Feb 12
brightonup
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8:22pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Cabin fever wrote:Getting back to positive comment, I have to agree with this. A fit Vicente will undoubtedly give us something special..... and make us playoff contenders - or, dare I say it, promotion hopefuls next year!
I don't care that I've just posted it on the Buckley glory thread, it deserves to be said again: To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight. He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold. Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.
gordongull
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8:23pm Sun 5 Feb 12
This is leading to some of our regular contributors having no outlet for their natural aggression.
I don't know what the answer is.
Any ideas?
brightonup
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8:31pm Sun 5 Feb 12
gordongull wrote:Well, the answer isn't turning on each other!
With all the negative posters and wind-up-merchants melting into the background, we are starting to look like the Stepford Wives. This is leading to some of our regular contributors having no outlet for their natural aggression. I don't know what the answer is. Any ideas?
mark5
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8:54pm Sun 5 Feb 12
gordongull wrote:I would not worry about it too much Gordon. There will always be some who take life too seriously and might feel better if they adopted a "lighter" position. Anyway, what is wrong with Stepford Wives? I for one thoroughly enjoyed it and would find a "Stepford Slant" quite amusing!
With all the negative posters and wind-up-merchants melting into the background, we are starting to look like the Stepford Wives.
This is leading to some of our regular contributors having no outlet for their natural aggression.
I don't know what the answer is.
Any ideas?
Alfie T
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9:01pm Sun 5 Feb 12
namgo49
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9:07pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Comment too on the real preoccupation of players trying really hard to get opposition players sent off. Mills ranting at the player and the referee an example with Sparrow. Watching the FL Show most of the Leeds team at Bristol City who had two sent off.
I wonder what it was that Beckford said to Dunk? Must have been serious for a sending off.
gordongull
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9:10pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Alfie T wrote:I spotted that myself, Alfie T, but I've always found 'pier queers' amusing, never offensive.
The comments at the moment are predictable as we are enjoying a great run at the moment, a couple of defeats on the spin and the usual idiots will be back. Surprisingly Buckler from Watford has been very quiet lately, just a mention about Saint Kenny, he was referring to us as the pier queers on the echo site recently.
brightonup
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9:15pm Sun 5 Feb 12
gordongull wrote:Yep, ironically, I think it is what they say to 'bond' with each other!
Alfie T wrote: The comments at the moment are predictable as we are enjoying a great run at the moment, a couple of defeats on the spin and the usual idiots will be back. Surprisingly Buckler from Watford has been very quiet lately, just a mention about Saint Kenny, he was referring to us as the pier queers on the echo site recently.I spotted that myself, Alfie T, but I've always found 'pier queers' amusing, never offensive.
mark5
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9:27pm Sun 5 Feb 12
namgo49 wrote:Yes, CMS did not look happy when he came off either! Don't blame him, Vokes is supposed to help him, but he cannot if CMS is not ion the pitch! Hope that the two of them are given game time together to gell as I think CMS has been a little hard done by the way he has been forced to play for over half a season. He will not get goals unless someone else is holding up the ball for him and taking defenders away
Have to comment on CMS who looked completely fed up with balls coming at him with his back to the goal. He's a channels man, just not getting the service and it is a bit on the laughable side to say Vokes came in to give him support when he is pulled off before there is any chance for that to happen. Work in progress for this week perhaps.
Comment too on the real preoccupation of players trying really hard to get opposition players sent off. Mills ranting at the player and the referee an example with Sparrow. Watching the FL Show most of the Leeds team at Bristol City who had two sent off.
I wonder what it was that Beckford said to Dunk? Must have been serious for a sending off.
fratsomrover
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9:46pm Sun 5 Feb 12
namgo49 wrote:I too hate to see players getting opponents sent off and I'm afraid Dunk made a lot of a nothing incident yesterday to get Beckford dismissed. As it happened, it was the turning point in the game because Leicester changed their approach to the game after being reduced to 10 men. All Beckford was doing was closing Dunk down and trying to block his clearance. Dunk caught him with is follow through and fell to the floor. He wasn't hurt nor was he caught by a late tackle and I expect Beckford told him so. It was never a red card and it was a shame that Dunk made such a meal of it.
Have to comment on CMS who looked completely fed up with balls coming at him with his back to the goal. He's a channels man, just not getting the service and it is a bit on the laughable side to say Vokes came in to give him support when he is pulled off before there is any chance for that to happen. Work in progress for this week perhaps.
Comment too on the real preoccupation of players trying really hard to get opposition players sent off. Mills ranting at the player and the referee an example with Sparrow. Watching the FL Show most of the Leeds team at Bristol City who had two sent off.
I wonder what it was that Beckford said to Dunk? Must have been serious for a sending off.
fratsomrover
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9:46pm Sun 5 Feb 12
namgo49 wrote:I too hate to see players getting opponents sent off and I'm afraid Dunk made a lot of a nothing incident yesterday to get Beckford dismissed. As it happened, it was the turning point in the game because Leicester changed their approach to the game after being reduced to 10 men. All Beckford was doing was closing Dunk down and trying to block his clearance. Dunk caught him with is follow through and fell to the floor. He wasn't hurt nor was he caught by a late tackle and I expect Beckford told him so. It was never a red card and it was a shame that Dunk made such a meal of it.
Have to comment on CMS who looked completely fed up with balls coming at him with his back to the goal. He's a channels man, just not getting the service and it is a bit on the laughable side to say Vokes came in to give him support when he is pulled off before there is any chance for that to happen. Work in progress for this week perhaps.
Comment too on the real preoccupation of players trying really hard to get opposition players sent off. Mills ranting at the player and the referee an example with Sparrow. Watching the FL Show most of the Leeds team at Bristol City who had two sent off.
I wonder what it was that Beckford said to Dunk? Must have been serious for a sending off.
Alfie T
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10:36pm Sun 5 Feb 12
fratsomrover wrote:Yes true, but did you see the reaction of the Leicester players to Sparrows challenge ? It was late but not two footed, the referee was looking to even things up.
namgo49 wrote:I too hate to see players getting opponents sent off and I'm afraid Dunk made a lot of a nothing incident yesterday to get Beckford dismissed. As it happened, it was the turning point in the game because Leicester changed their approach to the game after being reduced to 10 men. All Beckford was doing was closing Dunk down and trying to block his clearance. Dunk caught him with is follow through and fell to the floor. He wasn't hurt nor was he caught by a late tackle and I expect Beckford told him so. It was never a red card and it was a shame that Dunk made such a meal of it.
Have to comment on CMS who looked completely fed up with balls coming at him with his back to the goal. He's a channels man, just not getting the service and it is a bit on the laughable side to say Vokes came in to give him support when he is pulled off before there is any chance for that to happen. Work in progress for this week perhaps.
Comment too on the real preoccupation of players trying really hard to get opposition players sent off. Mills ranting at the player and the referee an example with Sparrow. Watching the FL Show most of the Leeds team at Bristol City who had two sent off.
I wonder what it was that Beckford said to Dunk? Must have been serious for a sending off.
Seagull John
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11:16pm Sun 5 Feb 12
Dave5434 wrote:I'm sure you're just fishing, but what an utterly pointless post!
On another note;
Whilst Poyet is no doubt a top manager he will eventually leave us at some point. this much is inevitable. However, its all very well appointing one class manager but the trick to success is appointing two class managers in a row. If I were Tony Bloom I would constantly have a short list of the top up an coming managers in the country. Just in case, you know. If Poyet were to leave its not the end of the world. I would simply appoint his good friend roberto Di Matteo as his sucessor (if he can be persuaded to leave Chelsea). He worked wonders at West Brom and they were silly to sack him. We should also be in a position now whereby we are a big enough club to do our own poaching of managers. MK Dons manager is class. So too in my opinion is Lee Clark of Huddersfield. Or how about a cheeky bid for David Moyes of Everton? Everton used to be a big club but Moyes must be frustrated to have virtually no money to spend and working on a shoe string budget. How about a fresh challenge? Everton are the past, Brighton are the future. You create your own history in life. And by creating history you become a "big club".
LACHANCE
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9:12am Mon 6 Feb 12
fratsomrover
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10:50am Mon 6 Feb 12
Alfie T wrote:Yes, I did see the reaction of the Leicester players and I quite agree with you, they ensured the ref showed him a red. That's what I'm saying, it's a despicable side of the game where players play act and implore refs to show cards. It happens in all divisions I'm afraid, but it should not be condoned. I just wish footballers would act as men and get up and get on with it. There are some true professionals around who dont play act but they seem increasingly to be in the minority. It's cheating, just like diving is cheating. Football is a physical game and you cant play the game without expecting a knock or two. Having watched the Ireland v Wales rugby match today makes so many of today footballers seem like "woosies". You'd never see a rugby player rolling around the floor !!!!
fratsomrover wrote:Yes true, but did you see the reaction of the Leicester players to Sparrows challenge ? It was late but not two footed, the referee was looking to even things up.
namgo49 wrote:I too hate to see players getting opponents sent off and I'm afraid Dunk made a lot of a nothing incident yesterday to get Beckford dismissed. As it happened, it was the turning point in the game because Leicester changed their approach to the game after being reduced to 10 men. All Beckford was doing was closing Dunk down and trying to block his clearance. Dunk caught him with is follow through and fell to the floor. He wasn't hurt nor was he caught by a late tackle and I expect Beckford told him so. It was never a red card and it was a shame that Dunk made such a meal of it.
Have to comment on CMS who looked completely fed up with balls coming at him with his back to the goal. He's a channels man, just not getting the service and it is a bit on the laughable side to say Vokes came in to give him support when he is pulled off before there is any chance for that to happen. Work in progress for this week perhaps.
Comment too on the real preoccupation of players trying really hard to get opposition players sent off. Mills ranting at the player and the referee an example with Sparrow. Watching the FL Show most of the Leeds team at Bristol City who had two sent off.
I wonder what it was that Beckford said to Dunk? Must have been serious for a sending off.
bhaforever
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2:33pm Mon 6 Feb 12
bentnup
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7:35pm Mon 6 Feb 12
I'll stick to football if you don't mind !
click2find
Cabin fever says...
6:51pm Sat 4 Feb 12
To all those that have questioned Vicente's commitment to the cause, thought his contract should be torn up, believed he was here just taking the Albion's money and not fussed about playing, and doubted he would ever be fit again, I hope you are enjoying a nice meal of humble pie tonight.
He may only have been on for a short amount of time, but he really made his mark. The pass for Buckley was world-class, and the way he ran towards us in the North Stand was a joy to behold.
Say what you like about his fitness, mental state, or ambition, but that guy was the reason we won today. Great, great finish by Buckers, but the build-up play by Vicente made it possible.