Poyet relaxed about Spurs talk (From The Argus)

Doesn't leave me feeling very relaxed. Would clearly take it if offered.

I think the key phrase is "is viewed by some Seagulls supporters as a natural candidate".

I don't think Spurs would even consider him - not enough experience as a manager, let alone in the top flight.

However, based on what he has achieved in just over two years here, he certainly has the potential.

Chris Hughton might be more likely

HelloTeenageAmerica wrote:
Doesn't leave me feeling very relaxed. Would clearly take it if offered.

How'd you work that one out then?

I, personally, cannot see him being offered it yet and I think Capello going this early has done us a favour. If Redknapp does get the England job then I'm sure Spurs will want someone with more experience than Gus. As good a manager as he is, I do not think he is ready for a top 4/5/6 PL managerial position yet.

If Capello had left when originally intended then Gus would've had another 6 months experience plus potentially achieving promotion to the PL on his managerial CV. The fact that Capello has gone now means that Gus does not have this and therefore, hopefully, Spurs will not want him.

20/1 apparently..........
worth a punt?

I agree with Gus the FA have made a mess of this,they went over Capelo,s head on Terry.Just like the race argument,how can they make a decision on what 2 players say to each other with no evedence.(guilty till proven inoccent).

Gus is not YET qualified or ready for the Spurs Job. There's no way he'd even be offered it, so relax !
Harry will stay at Spurs till the end of the season, or thereabouts, and Mourinho will take over.

To take over a Premiership club who are contending for the title, and will be playing Champions League football next year, i think they might want to look for a more experienced/establis
hed top teir manager. Gus wont be going anywhere...i hope..

No chance im afraid, as great a manager Gus is when (not if) Harry Redknapp gets the england job i would imagine Mourinho would be the name at the top of a very short List and Capello will go back to Madrid.

capello has (reportedly) already got a job lined up in Russia

gregbinstead wrote:
No chance im afraid, as great a manager Gus is when (not if) Harry Redknapp gets the england job i would imagine Mourinho would be the name at the top of a very short List and Capello will go back to Madrid.

I like your Musical chairs theory with no PL chair yet for Poyet.
I also agree with Seagulljoe's point regarding the timing of Capello's departure.
What upsets me most about this whole affair is the FA acting before Terry's guilt or innocence is esblished/proven. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) but Terry's record as England captain is better than anbody else's.
That includes, Bobby Moore, Bryan Robson, Billy Wright and David Beckham.
Apart from the potential injustice issue it strikes me that it is typical of England and the FA shooting itself in the foot.
For the record I support Scotland (chasing rainbows I know).

The FA must have wanted Capello out before the Euro's. I will expect us to be able to compete in the tournament now. The World Cup was a complete failure so onwards and upwards!

seagulljoe wrote:

HelloTeenageAmerica wrote: Doesn't leave me feeling very relaxed. Would clearly take it if offered.

How'd you work that one out then? I, personally, cannot see him being offered it yet and I think Capello going this early has done us a favour. If Redknapp does get the England job then I'm sure Spurs will want someone with more experience than Gus. As good a manager as he is, I do not think he is ready for a top 4/5/6 PL managerial position yet. If Capello had left when originally intended then Gus would've had another 6 months experience plus potentially achieving promotion to the PL on his managerial CV. The fact that Capello has gone now means that Gus does not have this and therefore, hopefully, Spurs will not want him.

Excellent comment on why he won't be offered it but that wasn't what I was saying. His comments make it clear he would take it if offered the right deal because he didn't rule it out. He's always been honest about the fact he'd take a job if it was the right one. If he doesn't get offered it then obviously this doesn't matter, but in my eyes he's making it clear he'd consider it which means he'd be interested.

If Gus were to go in the next 12 months, I'd offer the job to Steve Evans. He's got a shrewd football brain, has a great talent for unearthing new talent, and is very ambitious.

Vince wrote:
If Gus were to go in the next 12 months, I'd offer the job to Steve Evans. He's got a shrewd football brain, has a great talent for unearthing new talent, and is very ambitious.

No thanks, I dislike him with a passion! haha

seagulljoe wrote:

Vince wrote:
If Gus were to go in the next 12 months, I'd offer the job to Steve Evans. He's got a shrewd football brain, has a great talent for unearthing new talent, and is very ambitious.

No thanks, I dislike him with a passion! haha

Agree, lots of problems at Boston Utd although doing a great job at Crawley.

Would like Alan Curbishley if ....................
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Vince wrote:
If Gus were to go in the next 12 months, I'd offer the job to Steve Evans. He's got a shrewd football brain, has a great talent for unearthing new talent, and is very ambitious.

Only problems with that are that:

a) He is an odious man
b) He looks likely to have a heart attack at any moment!

I think the Amex does have a defibrilator

pte wrote:
I think the Amex does have a defibrilator

Yes.. an award winning defibrilator..like everything else at the Amex.

Spurs are not going to employ a man who has never managed in the top flight. There is also the small detail that Redknapp is their manager and may not want to leave anyway. I'm not too worried just yet.

HelloTeenageAmerica wrote:

seagulljoe wrote:

HelloTeenageAmerica wrote: Doesn't leave me feeling very relaxed. Would clearly take it if offered.

How'd you work that one out then? I, personally, cannot see him being offered it yet and I think Capello going this early has done us a favour. If Redknapp does get the England job then I'm sure Spurs will want someone with more experience than Gus. As good a manager as he is, I do not think he is ready for a top 4/5/6 PL managerial position yet. If Capello had left when originally intended then Gus would've had another 6 months experience plus potentially achieving promotion to the PL on his managerial CV. The fact that Capello has gone now means that Gus does not have this and therefore, hopefully, Spurs will not want him.

Excellent comment on why he won't be offered it but that wasn't what I was saying. His comments make it clear he would take it if offered the right deal because he didn't rule it out. He's always been honest about the fact he'd take a job if it was the right one. If he doesn't get offered it then obviously this doesn't matter, but in my eyes he's making it clear he'd consider it which means he'd be interested.

Yes, but I think the common consensus is that he WON'T be offered it, as per my original post near the top of the comments. Albion fans think he might be offered it, but I really don't think he is on Spurs' radar.

If he WAS offered it, of course he'd consider it, and I would expect him to take it. He'd be a fool not to, so why would he rule it out?

If you were headhunted for a job with a much bigger, more successful organisation than your current one, that you have a connection with, and that are offering to pay you much more than you earn at the moment, would YOU rule it out?

I can see Capello sniffing around it. Knows the players, fantastic club manager, presumably has a base in London...

Who in thier mind would want to work for the fools that run football in England.

Perhaps Rosie will get ne of the jobs

Agree with many of the above comments, GP is potentially a great future top flight manager, but, by his own admission, is still learning. Pretty sure he will go to one of the clubs that he's already associated with (Leeds,Spurs,Chelsea
), but that won't be considered yet.
From another point of view, we ourselves took a chance appointing a man with no previous full-time management criteria behind him, and gave him the no small task of getting a club into the C'ship within a restricted time, so it can clearly pay off to take a chance, but I get the strong impression from previous GP interviews that, while he will one day accept one of offers that will undoubtedly come his way, currently he's here to do a job, and will see it through.
Immersing himself totally in the plans for the new training complex, to me sounds like a fully committed guy who is here to do the job to the full.
I may be proved wrong, just an opinion, but having already rejected managing his own country, and ruling himself out of the Leeds job, I believe the Gus Bus is here to keep rolling for a while yet :o)

ballantrrae wrote:

gregbinstead wrote:
No chance im afraid, as great a manager Gus is when (not if) Harry Redknapp gets the england job i would imagine Mourinho would be the name at the top of a very short List and Capello will go back to Madrid.

I like your Musical chairs theory with no PL chair yet for Poyet.
I also agree with Seagulljoe's point regarding the timing of Capello's departure.
What upsets me most about this whole affair is the FA acting before Terry's guilt or innocence is esblished/proven. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) but Terry's record as England captain is better than anbody else's.
That includes, Bobby Moore, Bryan Robson, Billy Wright and David Beckham.
Apart from the potential injustice issue it strikes me that it is typical of England and the FA shooting itself in the foot.
For the record I support Scotland (chasing rainbows I know).

Terry's record is better than Bobby Moore's ? The only stats that really matter for England relate to tournaments. Bobby Moore is remembered for captaining England to be World Cup winners - hence the statue outside of Wembley. No one else has done this - in my book, that makes him the best captain of England.

On the sacking of JT - it would be very difficult for the England captain (and the FA) to be continually faced with anti-racism questions through the lead up to Euro 2012 and indeed the tournament itself. The FA wanted to avoid this, hence they relieved him of the captaincy. I also think it provided a convenient way to get rid of Capello - note the FA didn't fight to keep him. I think the FA privately feel that England have more chance in Euro 2012 with a new manager and captain in place. Similar to when a club replace their manager, the players get an immediate lift. And finally on Gus replacing Redknapp, I don't think Redknapp will take the job full-time - he does not want to leave Spurs. They could (although unlikely) win the Prem Lge and they are likely to give him another crack at the Champs Lge. Too much for him to resist.

Spurs might appoint a caretaker manager and bring Gus in as his No.2. Then after a few months experiences to give the top job to Gus. Or Dodgy Arry might be allowed to do the Spurs and England jobs at same time if Spurs wont release him.

It's very difficult to land a management job with the usual top 6 Premier Lge Big Boy contenders. If Poyet were to be offered a job in the Prem at this stage of his career then it more likely would be a mid to bottom of the table club in that Lge. (i.e. Bolton, Wigan, Wolves, West Brom, etc)
So, with that said, he'll take BHA to the Prem first, so that we become a mid table Prem Club, and beyond that who knows, but you have to breach that hurdle first in order to fall into a short list of candidates for a top 6 type club. That means no pending move anticipated to Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, or Liverpool.

No worries !

Cabin fever wrote:
I think the key phrase is "is viewed by some Seagulls supporters as a natural candidate".

I don't think Spurs would even consider him - not enough experience as a manager, let alone in the top flight.

However, based on what he has achieved in just over two years here, he certainly has the potential.

Absolutely agree!

By his own admission Harry isn't a Rhodes scholar, but I reckon he's too smart to take the England job. The dear ol' F.A. have interfered for too many years in the England team......I think its only the foreign born managers who may be unaware of this (or think they can change it !) who apply ? They may offer it to Gus but then again he's not that stupid either!

Ken from Beamish wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

gregbinstead wrote:
No chance im afraid, as great a manager Gus is when (not if) Harry Redknapp gets the england job i would imagine Mourinho would be the name at the top of a very short List and Capello will go back to Madrid.

I like your Musical chairs theory with no PL chair yet for Poyet.
I also agree with Seagulljoe's point regarding the timing of Capello's departure.
What upsets me most about this whole affair is the FA acting before Terry's guilt or innocence is esblished/proven. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) but Terry's record as England captain is better than anbody else's.
That includes, Bobby Moore, Bryan Robson, Billy Wright and David Beckham.
Apart from the potential injustice issue it strikes me that it is typical of England and the FA shooting itself in the foot.
For the record I support Scotland (chasing rainbows I know).

Terry's record is better than Bobby Moore's ? The only stats that really matter for England relate to tournaments. Bobby Moore is remembered for captaining England to be World Cup winners - hence the statue outside of Wembley. No one else has done this - in my book, that makes him the best captain of England.

On the sacking of JT - it would be very difficult for the England captain (and the FA) to be continually faced with anti-racism questions through the lead up to Euro 2012 and indeed the tournament itself. The FA wanted to avoid this, hence they relieved him of the captaincy. I also think it provided a convenient way to get rid of Capello - note the FA didn't fight to keep him. I think the FA privately feel that England have more chance in Euro 2012 with a new manager and captain in place. Similar to when a club replace their manager, the players get an immediate lift. And finally on Gus replacing Redknapp, I don't think Redknapp will take the job full-time - he does not want to leave Spurs. They could (although unlikely) win the Prem Lge and they are likely to give him another crack at the Champs Lge. Too much for him to resist.

All your well made points fully accepted especially Bobby Moore lifting the world cup in 66. However it doesn't alter the fact that statistically Terry has been more successful.
Your point about anti racism questions being raised if he had continued also valid and I am intrigued by your theory re the FA being able to ease Capello out.

'Leeds is a fantastic club-Premiership for sure- I had a great time there. If you have a chance to go back there it is an easy decision'- CV in the post- post-mark Brighton. Adios Gus & thanks.

ballantrrae wrote:

Ken from Beamish wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

gregbinstead wrote:
No chance im afraid, as great a manager Gus is when (not if) Harry Redknapp gets the england job i would imagine Mourinho would be the name at the top of a very short List and Capello will go back to Madrid.

I like your Musical chairs theory with no PL chair yet for Poyet.
I also agree with Seagulljoe's point regarding the timing of Capello's departure.
What upsets me most about this whole affair is the FA acting before Terry's guilt or innocence is esblished/proven. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) but Terry's record as England captain is better than anbody else's.
That includes, Bobby Moore, Bryan Robson, Billy Wright and David Beckham.
Apart from the potential injustice issue it strikes me that it is typical of England and the FA shooting itself in the foot.
For the record I support Scotland (chasing rainbows I know).

Terry's record is better than Bobby Moore's ? The only stats that really matter for England relate to tournaments. Bobby Moore is remembered for captaining England to be World Cup winners - hence the statue outside of Wembley. No one else has done this - in my book, that makes him the best captain of England.

On the sacking of JT - it would be very difficult for the England captain (and the FA) to be continually faced with anti-racism questions through the lead up to Euro 2012 and indeed the tournament itself. The FA wanted to avoid this, hence they relieved him of the captaincy. I also think it provided a convenient way to get rid of Capello - note the FA didn't fight to keep him. I think the FA privately feel that England have more chance in Euro 2012 with a new manager and captain in place. Similar to when a club replace their manager, the players get an immediate lift. And finally on Gus replacing Redknapp, I don't think Redknapp will take the job full-time - he does not want to leave Spurs. They could (although unlikely) win the Prem Lge and they are likely to give him another crack at the Champs Lge. Too much for him to resist.

All your well made points fully accepted especially Bobby Moore lifting the world cup in 66. However it doesn't alter the fact that statistically Terry has been more successful.
Your point about anti racism questions being raised if he had continued also valid and I am intrigued by your theory re the FA being able to ease Capello out.

And if you are of my vintage, you'll remember that Bobby Moore was arrested for a crime just before the 1970 World Cup. The England manager Alf Ramsey stood by his captain and gave him his full support, just as Fabio Cappello has done in 2012. In 1970, the FA kept their own counsel, unlike the the spineless bunch that sits on its board today.

The only thing we learn from history is that no one ever learns anything from history.

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Gus is not YET qualified or ready for the Spurs Job. There's no way he'd even be offered it, so relax !
Harry will stay at Spurs till the end of the season, or thereabouts, and Mourinho will take over.

Not only is Gus qualified but he is also capable of the England job, an ambition I believe he secretly harbours. Too soon yet for him to manage England. I hope we can hang on to him a while longer. My top three contenders for England Manager are
1) If English, Stuart Pearce, knows the England set up and the younger players. Is therefore well placed to replace some of the prima donnas that think they should play by right.
2) If British Martin O'neill, a pure talent just waiting for a big big job so he can become a legend.
3) If foreign, the Special One. The only foreign manager the FA would get away with appointing without a backlash from the fans.
My choice would have to be Stuart Pearce. He could shock Europe with the inside knowledge he has of the younger talent if he has the guts to drop the players that think they are good but never perform for their country and play younger unknown talent instead.

Surely Guus Hiddink would also be well received, Cybergu11y?

Can't agree about Pearcey. Later down the line perhaps but I'd be inclined to give him another 5 years and preferably see him win one or two of the U21 tournaments first.

For me the three no-brainers are 'Arry The Innocent, The Special One and Guus (not Gus!).

JT has a record of yobbish behaviour and is quite unsuited to act as an ambassador for his country. The FA recognised the wider implications of his captaincy at the Euros and acted accordingly. Pity that so few tunnel vision football fans don't see this but not surprised that GP doesn't. As to comparisons of JT with Bobby Moore this is obscene. Bobby was a gentleman and won the World Cup. The necklace saga was known as a set up at the time and bears no comparison with the alleged racist behaviour of Terry. Moreover Alf Ramsay could be trusted to make the right call unlike FC.