Poyet: It's a point gained (From The Argus)

Sorry Gus but not a great point and I think you now know that the initial team selection was wrong but that is part of the learning process.

Balance of the side all wrong,no width,not sure that Bridcutt and Navaro can play in the same midfield. Needed pace wide and imagination in the middle. Thought Vokes did well, did the sponsors draw a name out of the hat for mom?

gus yes you got it it wrong tonight, cos it is really the first time you have got selection totally wrong , i thought vokes looked the centre forward we have been looking for strong, held up ball, and was unlucky not to have had a couple.. oh well we got away with it, just..

Bad team selection,badly missed wingers.Gave the ball away too often,Brez looked uninterested.Why totaly mess with a winning team,should have gone for it tonight and lets worry about Sunday Sunday.

It was a great point because we didn't deserve anything.

Gus would have been a genius if we had won with the team selection, but we didn't and he has admitted he got it wrong. These things happen. Of course all the 'would be' premiership managers who post on here, could have told him that before the game started. It wasn't just bad team selection. A number of players performed below par tonight.

Yep, was a difficult one for the fans Bucket feet Duffy. This game should have been one for the taking.

A lot of sloppy play didn’t help this selection look good. At least Gus took responsibility for this in his statement above, and will have learnt something from this.

On the plus side it was good for Vokes & KLL to score.

What a load of rubbish! We have just wasted the hard earned points at Leeds!
This was a must win game for us tonight and we were lucky to get a point from it with such a poor performance! Gus is being rather vain with his eyes on the Liverpool game and eyes off the ball...
We should be fighting for the play offs not wasting our time with the fa cup..
The fa cup should just be a bit of fun not a distraction! Hope gus can at least be honest with himself...

Strongest squad to choose from he said! What a joke, better choose better next time!

2 points lost!!

Congrats to Jacket. If Millwall were not fallible and unlucky they would have fought their way out with all 3 points.

Lot of negative posts on here tonight. A few weeks ago we would have been very happy with four points from Leeds away and Millwall at home. I guess expectations are higher now, but I reckon we're punching well above our weight in this division.

Most of you on here need to take a reality check...jesus! All this talk about being is just a ridiculous assumption and nothing that Gus has said or done suggests vanity...jokers!

He actually suggests in his interview that he got it wrong.

Think back to Saturday morning...I don't about you, but I was thinking 4 points from these 2 games would do just nicely and that is what we got. It's not the way that you expected it but then surely that is you (benslick & bucket crutch) being big headed and presumptious, thinking we can just roll over Millwall when no game in this league is easy.

I, personally, am pleased that we have a manager that is not scared to try something different.

Admittedly a strange team selection with no wingers and no creative midfielder. Reyes started well but faded away to nothing. However, did anyone think Millwall played well? Probably caused us more problems defensively than any other team this season - no idea what they are doing in 19th place. Don't forget they beat Southampton away in the cup last week so they are no mugs. Of course it was a great point. Every team in this division is competitive and Brighton's points total has been boasted by many late goals recently - really don't know why everyone is moaning for. Unbeaten this year, 17 points out of 21 and through to the 5th Round of the FA Cup speaks for itself.

Still - there we are, 2 points off the play-offs and I haven't sat down once at kick-off this season thinking yep - that's the best 11 he could have started with. Things can only get better!

When the side was announced, the lack of any pace wide was a great cause for concern ...and so it proved. Three midfield players all looking for that central role, three forward players craving for some creativity from midfield but left to do it for themselves, and Dunk and Greer unable to find an outlet through midfield. For once, Gus got it tactically wrong and Millwall grew in confidence as the game progressed. Fair play for fronting up to getting it wrong, but think this was two points lost. With a winger in place from the off, it would have given them more to think about defensively, but both full backs knew that Calderon and Mattock did not have sufficient pace to go past them - so allowed the ball to be crossed in from wide and simply got the two big centre halves to head it away. Still a fantastic achievement to be in 9th position, but if we keep to our solid shape with some flair players involved, this can be even better. Vokes was good, and CMS may be seeing more of the bench in the near future.

A lot of negativity on here tonight. I think that the side Gus put out was OK but with 2 exceptions. The midfield was crying out for someone with a bit of guile, who could carry the ball forward and create the space for CMS and Vokes. Why not Vicente/Forster-Cask
ey as subs , because Reyes was hopeless in midfield? That was the first opportunity lost, as I think Vokes and CMS were short-changed by the omission.
The second failure was the lack of a winger (either Noone or Kaz should have been on throughout the game).

Having said that, I thought that once Noone came on, we looked more dangerous going forward, and Vokes and Agdestein particularly, played very well. Lua Lua did brilliantly in the 5 minutes he was on the field.

Finally, I was a bit mystified that CMS was taken off directly after he had been involved in the first equaliser. Shortly after, a cross from the wing went right across the face of the goal, with no one theree to get a touch. Tailor-made for CMS, but he had been taken off! Towards the end with Albion 2-1 down, and really pressing, spaces started to open up, but CMS was not there to profit. He should be there at these times in my view, as he is a proven goal poacher.

Well played Millwall, they deserved at least a point for a spirited display.

seagulljoe wrote:
Most of you on here need to take a reality check...jesus! All this talk about being is just a ridiculous assumption and nothing that Gus has said or done suggests vanity...jokers!

He actually suggests in his interview that he got it wrong.

Think back to Saturday morning...I don't about you, but I was thinking 4 points from these 2 games would do just nicely and that is what we got. It's not the way that you expected it but then surely that is you (benslick & bucket crutch) being big headed and presumptious, thinking we can just roll over Millwall when no game in this league is easy.

I, personally, am pleased that we have a manager that is not scared to try something different.

Quite agree seagulljoe. GP tried a different formation, it didn't really work out, but we still come away with a point.

For me there was no single area that let us down, just an overall below-par performance from pretty much everyone. As Chi Gull said, if it HAD worked – with a bit more composure and concentration, and better passing – then everyone would be raving on here, so I think it is less about the poor formation, just bad execution of it.

We have great wingers, but that doesn't mean we have to use them all the time. I see what GP was thinking, but Millwall controlled it well, and forced us into mistakes.

Once again a bit of perspective is needed here by some people. This is a team that has come up a division, and while there have been some quality additions – Vokes and Mattock I thought were excellent last night – it is still in transition and they are bound to have the odd off game.

We move on, hope they enjoy the game at Anfield and then get back to a performance we know they are capable of against Hull next week.

AB in my opinion MOM. Why bring Dunk back after having a virous? He had a (rare) stinker. E Abd had been a rock in defence of late and would have held the team together. Although the passing in mid field was poor IMO Millwall muscled us off the ball far too easily and were more up for the fight. Millwall unlucky not to have taken all 3 points but as already mentioned if we had taken a point at Leeds and then beat Millwall we would all be happy today. Yes Gus, you got it wrong, bet you won't do that again.

benslick wrote:
2 points lost!!

Yes if you were a Millwall fan. We deserved nothing from that game.

Brezovan was not good and Dunk's problems off the field looked as if they were getting to him. Worst game he has ever had.

We just gave the ball away so much, with Reyes and Dunk being the chief culprits.

Mattock really knew he had a game to play and stuck to it really well. Class player. Navarro got MOM I think for scoring the winner at Leeds as he was pretty anonymous throughout. Noone didn't get the ball when he came on.

Really missed Buckley and where was Vicente?

Need a result against Liverpool at the weekend to boost confidence. No reason why we can't. We certainly can't play any worse than we did last night. Awful, truly awful. I really felt sorry for Millwall.

namgo49 wrote:

benslick wrote:
2 points lost!!

Yes if you were a Millwall fan. We deserved nothing from that game.

Brezovan was not good and Dunk's problems off the field looked as if they were getting to him. Worst game he has ever had.

We just gave the ball away so much, with Reyes and Dunk being the chief culprits.

Mattock really knew he had a game to play and stuck to it really well. Class player. Navarro got MOM I think for scoring the winner at Leeds as he was pretty anonymous throughout. Noone didn't get the ball when he came on.

Really missed Buckley and where was Vicente?

Need a result against Liverpool at the weekend to boost confidence. No reason why we can't. We certainly can't play any worse than we did last night. Awful, truly awful. I really felt sorry for Millwall.

Agreed bad day at the office, we learn we move on... Just one point I would like to make is that for the first time this season I would have given MOM to one of the opposition as I thought number 6 Trotter was excellent for Millwall and could be the type of player we should be looking to get come the end of the season, big strong and skilful for a big man.. other than that Liverpool here we come..Seagulls...!!

Well done lads a point earned that takes us closer to the play offs.
Still cannot believe we are at the top half of the table at this stage of the season great advances made by all at B&HA FC.
Proud to be a follower/supporter even from outside the UK.
SEAGULLS!!!!!

namgo49 wrote:

benslick wrote:
2 points lost!!

Yes if you were a Millwall fan. We deserved nothing from that game.

Brezovan was not good and Dunk's problems off the field looked as if they were getting to him. Worst game he has ever had.

We just gave the ball away so much, with Reyes and Dunk being the chief culprits.

Mattock really knew he had a game to play and stuck to it really well. Class player. Navarro got MOM I think for scoring the winner at Leeds as he was pretty anonymous throughout. Noone didn't get the ball when he came on.

Really missed Buckley and where was Vicente?

Need a result against Liverpool at the weekend to boost confidence. No reason why we can't. We certainly can't play any worse than we did last night. Awful, truly awful. I really felt sorry for Millwall.

Where was Vicente? I'll tell you where he was. According to The Argus he was suffering from fatigue after playing 20 mins at Leeds. 20 mins, what a farce. What do you make of that then my friends?

Cant accept Gus's view it was one point gained, it was 2 points lost. Very disappointing after the result at Leeds. Still lessons were learned from last night.
1. Dunk cannot be risked on Sunday. He was atrocious last night. Never seen a player so incapable of passing to a team mate. Looked devoid of confidence and a shadow of his earlier self. He never mastered Henderson (who was a constant threat) El Abd must replace him alongside Greer on Sunday.
2. Jara Reyes is no midfielder. Good full-back but out of his depth in midfield.
3.Vokes showed much promise. Nice to have a forward capable of holding the ball up, bringing others into the game and winning balls in the air. Get Buckley alongside him and Vincente feeding him and we'll be a potent force. Good to see Nooney back although we didn't give him much of the ball, but great to see him back.
Looking forward to Anfield, sure it'll be different to last night, but no place for Dunk please. Better to wait until his personal antics have been cleared up because at present, his mind is not on the game. He cant be risked!

namgo49 wrote:

benslick wrote:
2 points lost!!

Yes if you were a Millwall fan. We deserved nothing from that game.

Brezovan was not good and Dunk's problems off the field looked as if they were getting to him. Worst game he has ever had.

We just gave the ball away so much, with Reyes and Dunk being the chief culprits.

Mattock really knew he had a game to play and stuck to it really well. Class player. Navarro got MOM I think for scoring the winner at Leeds as he was pretty anonymous throughout. Noone didn't get the ball when he came on.

Really missed Buckley and where was Vicente?

Need a result against Liverpool at the weekend to boost confidence. No reason why we can't. We certainly can't play any worse than we did last night. Awful, truly awful. I really felt sorry for Millwall.

Wow!

Brezovan was not good? Was that when he made a couple of point blank saves to keep us in the game?

How do you come to the conclusion that Dunk's "off the field problems" looked as if they were getting to him? Yes he had a bad game but this is a young lad who is learning all the time. Strange conclusion to come to.

I don't feel sorry for Millwall, I thought they flattered to deceive and were there for the taking. We had more possession and more shots and on balance I think a draw was a fair result.

Some positives for me are Adgestein is developing brillianty and Vokes looked good in a bad performance. Surely CMS should be playing off his shoulder higher up the field, he must get so frustrated. There were a couple of big balls up to Vokes that if he'd won, there was no one in behind. Barnes - I appreciate he does more than he gets cedit for but he is no goal threat in open play, will the coaches please tell him to get his head over the ball when striking it. 80% of he's shots this season have not to hit the target, very poor given his position. A bad day at the office for the team but I'd have taken 4 from 6. Still incredibly happy with our season so far. Onwards and upwards.

I seem to have missed this stuff about Dunk.What's been happening to him outside Football then, please? Is it something to do with the alleged, repeat alleged, sex assault last summer?

saraman wrote:

namgo49 wrote:

benslick wrote:
2 points lost!!

Yes if you were a Millwall fan. We deserved nothing from that game.

Brezovan was not good and Dunk's problems off the field looked as if they were getting to him. Worst game he has ever had.

We just gave the ball away so much, with Reyes and Dunk being the chief culprits.

Mattock really knew he had a game to play and stuck to it really well. Class player. Navarro got MOM I think for scoring the winner at Leeds as he was pretty anonymous throughout. Noone didn't get the ball when he came on.

Really missed Buckley and where was Vicente?

Need a result against Liverpool at the weekend to boost confidence. No reason why we can't. We certainly can't play any worse than we did last night. Awful, truly awful. I really felt sorry for Millwall.

Where was Vicente? I'll tell you where he was. According to The Argus he was suffering from fatigue after playing 20 mins at Leeds. 20 mins, what a farce. What do you make of that then my friends?

Leeds was only is second appearance after being out for 16 weeks, and after his game back he had a week in between games, so it is understandable that he may not yet be ready to play twice in 4 days.

Come on, we can't be treating him like the messiah when he plays and sets up all 3 goals in 2 matches, but then get on his back again as soon as he's unavailable.

You really wonder what football managers are thinking at times. When the team was announced most people around me (and I suspect the majority of the crowd) said that's a crazy team selection. And we were all right. Why on earth play a man who is clearly a defender in midfield? There was not a single spark of creativity in the starting midfield. We have lots of genuine midfielders - why not start at home with a winger or JFC or Harley (or even Vincelot for that matter). That team selection was clearly wrong from the start. A point is not a disaster but if we want to force our way into the play-offs rather than permanently being 2 or 3 or 4 points off the play-offs then we must beat teams at the bottom of teh table. Millwall are down there because they actually aren't very good.

Very very odd, the couple of people that commented about Dunky's so called 'off-field' problems.

Is this his first match since the arrests? no. Has he played well in every other match since the arrests? yes.

Get a grip.

With all of these marvellous managers posting here, it's a wonder yo me that Gus has a job atall.

Good to see Gus putting his hands up and admitting that he got it wrong. It takes the pressure off the players, some of whom he will hopefully help to reflect on their frankly pretty poor performances out of the public gaze. In a team sport everyone has a responsibility. Gus has accepted his. Hopefully others will improve as a result. Bad day at the office and a lucky bonus point - now move on

benslick wrote:
What a load of rubbish! We have just wasted the hard earned points at Leeds!
This was a must win game for us tonight and we were lucky to get a point from it with such a poor performance! Gus is being rather vain with his eyes on the Liverpool game and eyes off the ball...
We should be fighting for the play offs not wasting our time with the fa cup..
The fa cup should just be a bit of fun not a distraction! Hope gus can at least be honest with himself...

Strongest squad to choose from he said! What a joke, better choose better next time!

You are either a troll or failed WUM. Enough said.

MikeTheMan wrote:
You really wonder what football managers are thinking at times. When the team was announced most people around me (and I suspect the majority of the crowd) said that's a crazy team selection. And we were all right. Why on earth play a man who is clearly a defender in midfield? There was not a single spark of creativity in the starting midfield. We have lots of genuine midfielders - why not start at home with a winger or JFC or Harley (or even Vincelot for that matter). That team selection was clearly wrong from the start. A point is not a disaster but if we want to force our way into the play-offs rather than permanently being 2 or 3 or 4 points off the play-offs then we must beat teams at the bottom of teh table. Millwall are down there because they actually aren't very good.

Reyes is a premiershiper, played there for west brom and someone I believe many of u wanted to see in the middle. Maybe he'd do a job there but not in that formation and not alongside both Navs and Bridcutt. Gus clearly made a mistake not playing a winger, but at least he's man enough to stand up. Agree he got it wrong this time but he must be doing something right. CMS in for Barnes, PLEASE or Barnes please make me easy humble pie.

BHA Dave wrote:

MikeTheMan wrote: You really wonder what football managers are thinking at times. When the team was announced most people around me (and I suspect the majority of the crowd) said that's a crazy team selection. And we were all right. Why on earth play a man who is clearly a defender in midfield? There was not a single spark of creativity in the starting midfield. We have lots of genuine midfielders - why not start at home with a winger or JFC or Harley (or even Vincelot for that matter). That team selection was clearly wrong from the start. A point is not a disaster but if we want to force our way into the play-offs rather than permanently being 2 or 3 or 4 points off the play-offs then we must beat teams at the bottom of teh table. Millwall are down there because they actually aren't very good.

Reyes is a premiershiper, played there for west brom and someone I believe many of u wanted to see in the middle. Maybe he'd do a job there but not in that formation and not alongside both Navs and Bridcutt. Gus clearly made a mistake not playing a winger, but at least he's man enough to stand up. Agree he got it wrong this time but he must be doing something right. CMS in for Barnes, PLEASE or Barnes please make me easy humble pie.

Impressed with Voakes - worked hard and held the ball up well. Reyes may have the fancy flicks but is going to have to put in much more effort than that. I too wanted to see him in midfield but the fact that he is a 'premiership player' cuts no ice with me. As for Barnes, still not sure.

It's a point gained as long as nothing was being held back for the Cup.
Millwall came here looking like they expected to win, and they very nearly did. They played with confidence,and often showed us up with their accurate passing.
We can't lump this together with the Leeds game saying that four points is a good haul. Why not combine it with the Reading match which we lost?
That wouldn't be any less relevant.

MikeTheMan wrote:
You really wonder what football managers are thinking at times. When the team was announced most people around me (and I suspect the majority of the crowd) said that's a crazy team selection. And we were all right. Why on earth play a man who is clearly a defender in midfield? There was not a single spark of creativity in the starting midfield. We have lots of genuine midfielders - why not start at home with a winger or JFC or Harley (or even Vincelot for that matter). That team selection was clearly wrong from the start. A point is not a disaster but if we want to force our way into the play-offs rather than permanently being 2 or 3 or 4 points off the play-offs then we must beat teams at the bottom of teh table. Millwall are down there because they actually aren't very good.

You obviously don't follow current form because if you did you would have known that Millwall are on a good run at the moment. League position has nothing to do with it, especially in this league.
As for Reyes, like Wiseman and BHA Dave have said, when Reyes first came here he was touted as a midfielder as well as a defender. His passing ability and deft touches were clearly thought by Gus to be attributes that would illuminate midfield. In the event, it didn't work but Gus knows that and has admitted it.

Claude Back wrote:

MikeTheMan wrote:
You really wonder what football managers are thinking at times. When the team was announced most people around me (and I suspect the majority of the crowd) said that's a crazy team selection. And we were all right. Why on earth play a man who is clearly a defender in midfield? There was not a single spark of creativity in the starting midfield. We have lots of genuine midfielders - why not start at home with a winger or JFC or Harley (or even Vincelot for that matter). That team selection was clearly wrong from the start. A point is not a disaster but if we want to force our way into the play-offs rather than permanently being 2 or 3 or 4 points off the play-offs then we must beat teams at the bottom of teh table. Millwall are down there because they actually aren't very good.

You obviously don't follow current form because if you did you would have known that Millwall are on a good run at the moment. League position has nothing to do with it, especially in this league.
As for Reyes, like Wiseman and BHA Dave have said, when Reyes first came here he was touted as a midfielder as well as a defender. His passing ability and deft touches were clearly thought by Gus to be attributes that would illuminate midfield. In the event, it didn't work but Gus knows that and has admitted it.

I hate to say it Claude, but Millwall are currently second bottom of one form table I've seen this morning, just above Notts Forest (we are fourth).

However, I agree that league positions are not to be taken at full face value - look at our result against Coventry on Boxing Day, for example. A cliché I know, but anyone really can beat anyone in this division.

Still got a point, still unbeaten in 2012, and exceeding most people's expectations from the beginning of the season, I would imagine.

Fair to say Brighton have played worse this season and won. Millwall played really well on the night and were unlucky not to win, but fair play to Brighton, they kept going and found a way to get a point. Not sure why some people are saying Jara Reyes is not a mid-fielder - always played there whenever I have seen him for WBA. Obviously has the technical skills to play there but suspect he is more suited to a deeper role which Bridcott and Navarro were already covering. Suspect that Gus was not that impressed with the way CMS played with Vokes - made comment that he "learnt a lot" about one or two things in his post match interview and alluded to their partnership specifically. Vokes possibly the main striker now.....

Fair to say Brighton have played worse this season and won. Millwall played really well on the night and were unlucky not to win, but fair play to Brighton, they kept going and found a way to get a point. Not sure why some people are saying Jara Reyes is not a mid-fielder - always played there whenever I have seen him for WBA. Obviously has the technical skills to play there but suspect he is more suited to a deeper role which Bridcott and Navarro were already covering. Suspect that Gus was not that impressed with the way CMS played with Vokes - made comment that he "learnt a lot" about one or two things in his post match interview and alluded to their partnership specifically. Vokes possibly the main striker now.....

seagulljoe wrote:
Most of you on here need to take a reality check...jesus! All this talk about being is just a ridiculous assumption and nothing that Gus has said or done suggests vanity...jokers! He actually suggests in his interview that he got it wrong. Think back to Saturday morning...I don't about you, but I was thinking 4 points from these 2 games would do just nicely and that is what we got. It's not the way that you expected it but then surely that is you (benslick & bucket crutch) being big headed and presumptious, thinking we can just roll over Millwall when no game in this league is easy. I, personally, am pleased that we have a manager that is not scared to try something different.

Agreed! WHo are these idiots who think that every game not won is a disaster? Name a side that went an entire season without dropping points, name a side newly promoted to a division that won every game comfortably... this is football - sometimes you play badly, sometimes you lose, sometimes you draw when you should have lost, sometimes you win when you should have drawn - its not an exact science. Sometimes I despair at the negativity on this board.... I think we are doing ok - to say "better get it right next time" or whatever some numpty posted above somewhere, is just ridiculous.

I don't think this board has been too negative, just fans showing frustration at the lack of performance.

It could be 1 point gained or 2 points lost. Either way, as is said it was a bad day at the office.

Anyway it is down to Gus and the players to grow from this.

Ken from Beamish wrote:
When the side was announced, the lack of any pace wide was a great cause for concern ...and so it proved. Three midfield players all looking for that central role, three forward players craving for some creativity from midfield but left to do it for themselves, and Dunk and Greer unable to find an outlet through midfield. For once, Gus got it tactically wrong and Millwall grew in confidence as the game progressed. Fair play for fronting up to getting it wrong, but think this was two points lost. With a winger in place from the off, it would have given them more to think about defensively, but both full backs knew that Calderon and Mattock did not have sufficient pace to go past them - so allowed the ball to be crossed in from wide and simply got the two big centre halves to head it away. Still a fantastic achievement to be in 9th position, but if we keep to our solid shape with some flair players involved, this can be even better. Vokes was good, and CMS may be seeing more of the bench in the near future.

Spot on. At the design stage, Gus stipulated that the Amex pitch was to be as wide as possible. Not to play wingers from the outset capable of taking on opponents and crossing from the byline seems a waste of all that space. And telling players "not to sulk" if they are not selected and KLL that it doesn't matter whether he plays for 5 minutes or 70 is frankly demeaning.

Yes we struggled last night against a strong, well organised and fairly decent side. Number 6, Trotter, stood out for me. Stong big and quick (rare combination) just the sort of player we could do with at times! Team selection odd and cost us the whole 3 points as I am fairly sure we would have turned them over in greater style if we had played a different team. Still, unbeaton in2012 and shouting distance of the playoffs, so not really much to be unhappy about!!

On another note, Just wanted to say what a disgrace a significant majority of Millwall's fans are. Aggressive, foul mouthed scum who go out of their way to "prove" themselves regardless of who is around them, woman, kids and the elderly. They think they are hard and threatening, but they are just morons who must live in the gutter and want eveyone to hate them. Ally clubs have their hard boys, but few like this rabble and fewer still that would show so much dis-respect for children, woman etc. Apologies in advance to any decent Millwall fans reading this, but many of your fans are just pond life (and thats not even fair to the inhabitents of murky green, stagnant water!”

Generic - Bad decisions, should of done this, should of done that, doom & gloom post.

Alternatively woop woop unbeaten in 2012. Not even Barcelona play well in every game! Bring on Anfield on Sunday!!!!

mark5 wrote:
Yes we struggled last night against a strong, well organised and fairly decent side. Number 6, Trotter, stood out for me. Stong big and quick (rare combination) just the sort of player we could do with at times! Team selection odd and cost us the whole 3 points as I am fairly sure we would have turned them over in greater style if we had played a different team. Still, unbeaton in2012 and shouting distance of the playoffs, so not really much to be unhappy about!!

On another note, Just wanted to say what a disgrace a significant majority of Millwall's fans are. Aggressive, foul mouthed scum who go out of their way to "prove" themselves regardless of who is around them, woman, kids and the elderly. They think they are hard and threatening, but they are just morons who must live in the gutter and want eveyone to hate them. Ally clubs have their hard boys, but few like this rabble and fewer still that would show so much dis-respect for children, woman etc. Apologies in advance to any decent Millwall fans reading this, but many of your fans are just pond life (and thats not even fair to the inhabitents of murky green, stagnant water!”

Agree with you re these Millwall fans, I too witnessed such behaviour. Those I saw were complete scum and wouldn't have the ability to read these posts. I very much doubt they know how to use the net. I'm all for friendly banter and the odd choice word to the ref/opposition, but these idiots take things too far. No doubt our taxes bought them their tickets! The Millwall exec must be so proud to have such wonderful fans.

BHA Dave wrote:

mark5 wrote: Yes we struggled last night against a strong, well organised and fairly decent side. Number 6, Trotter, stood out for me. Stong big and quick (rare combination) just the sort of player we could do with at times! Team selection odd and cost us the whole 3 points as I am fairly sure we would have turned them over in greater style if we had played a different team. Still, unbeaton in2012 and shouting distance of the playoffs, so not really much to be unhappy about!! On another note, Just wanted to say what a disgrace a significant majority of Millwall's fans are. Aggressive, foul mouthed scum who go out of their way to "prove" themselves regardless of who is around them, woman, kids and the elderly. They think they are hard and threatening, but they are just morons who must live in the gutter and want eveyone to hate them. Ally clubs have their hard boys, but few like this rabble and fewer still that would show so much dis-respect for children, woman etc. Apologies in advance to any decent Millwall fans reading this, but many of your fans are just pond life (and thats not even fair to the inhabitents of murky green, stagnant water!”

Agree with you re these Millwall fans, I too witnessed such behaviour. Those I saw were complete scum and wouldn't have the ability to read these posts. I very much doubt they know how to use the net. I'm all for friendly banter and the odd choice word to the ref/opposition, but these idiots take things too far. No doubt our taxes bought them their tickets! The Millwall exec must be so proud to have such wonderful fans.

Yep. I have followed the Albion since the early 70s and been up and down the country and witnessed many groups of "hostile" fans, which is part and parcel of football culture. Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Stoke, to name but a few, have run down areas where the locals have a tough life and reputation, but nothing like that lot. They seem to exist at a far lower level with little or no regard for the basic morals or standards which exist for most. What a cross to bare for Millwall FC and the decent fans they must have, even though it seems they dont have any at all!

Gents, was at the game and by chance didn't come across any 'Wall fans....so, mind if I ask what sort of behaviour they stooped to?