Bloom backs push for fair play (From The Argus)

WARNING : There are comments on articles proclaiming falsely to be from Albion fans; Their real intention is to defame BHAFC its fans or the Argus or to troll ( to intentionally anger and frustrate someone else or provoke a response .)

Makes perfect sense to me. It makes it a much more even playing field for all the teams where money will not be able to buy success.
It will be down to the manager spending wisely and the skill of the current and new players within a sensible budget.

championshipgull wrote:
WARNING : There are comments on articles proclaiming falsely to be from Albion fans; Their real intention is to defame BHAFC its fans or the Argus or to troll ( to intentionally anger and frustrate someone else or provoke a response .)

There should be a warning about you. I have not seen any comments where somebody has actually CLAIMED to be a BHAFC fan then actually slagged them off.
Wind your neck in, who do you think you are?
People can read and make their own minds up without a jumped up turnip like you putting on your pathetic WARNING.

Perhaps the Spanish league could introduce similar restrictions ? Messi and Ronaldo both missing penalties on consecutive days (haha).......poor ol' Jose probably thinks its another UEFA conspiracy . Bet Ken Bates is searching for loopholes in the new laws already !!!

I for once agree with HPR..even though it is becoming hard to keep up with all the rule changes. Does this mean league 1 and league 2 will different rules to the Championship. As it is you can 7 subs in the premier league but only 5 in the football league? What's all that about. If it were down to me i would restrict it to a maximum of 3 foreigners and cap expenditure across all leagues. That way every club has ashot of success! great news about the 8k new seats at the amex - hopefully i can get a season ticket next season now :)

BHAFCSeagull wrote:

championshipgull wrote: WARNING : There are comments on articles proclaiming falsely to be from Albion fans; Their real intention is to defame BHAFC its fans or the Argus or to troll ( to intentionally anger and frustrate someone else or provoke a response .)

There should be a warning about you. I have not seen any comments where somebody has actually CLAIMED to be a BHAFC fan then actually slagged them off. Wind your neck in, who do you think you are? People can read and make their own minds up without a jumped up turnip like you putting on your pathetic WARNING.

You obviously haven't read most of the comments form HPR. Conversely, it would appear that HPR has now engaged in reasonable debate (maybe because of all the 'pathetic' whining? Maybe wants to be taken seriously and then revert back to negativity for it's 'comic' effect?). Whatever... I actually that the 'level playing field debate' is the way forward and whole heartedly agree with Mr Bloom and HPR (in this instance). I too will be able to get a season ticket for next season. Great lobbying from the club and i guess a bit of foresight from the Council.

fairweathersupporter wrote:

BHAFCSeagull wrote:

championshipgull wrote: WARNING : There are comments on articles proclaiming falsely to be from Albion fans; Their real intention is to defame BHAFC its fans or the Argus or to troll ( to intentionally anger and frustrate someone else or provoke a response .)

There should be a warning about you. I have not seen any comments where somebody has actually CLAIMED to be a BHAFC fan then actually slagged them off. Wind your neck in, who do you think you are? People can read and make their own minds up without a jumped up turnip like you putting on your pathetic WARNING.

You obviously haven't read most of the comments form HPR. Conversely, it would appear that HPR has now engaged in reasonable debate (maybe because of all the 'pathetic' whining? Maybe wants to be taken seriously and then revert back to negativity for it's 'comic' effect?). Whatever... I actually that the 'level playing field debate' is the way forward and whole heartedly agree with Mr Bloom and HPR (in this instance). I too will be able to get a season ticket for next season. Great lobbying from the club and i guess a bit of foresight from the Council.

I am a regular reader of the comments and have seen many of HPR's comments and although I don't agree with him I don't recall him saying he is a fan. To comment on articles there is not a provision that you must be a fan. He is entitled to say what he likes and the rest of us do not need a self righteous contributor to give us WARNINGS, we can make our own minds up.
I also note that some people enjoy his posts!
Anyway 'Up the Albion' and remember we have free speech for all in this country.

BHAFCSeagull wrote:

fairweathersupporter wrote:

BHAFCSeagull wrote:

championshipgull wrote: WARNING : There are comments on articles proclaiming falsely to be from Albion fans; Their real intention is to defame BHAFC its fans or the Argus or to troll ( to intentionally anger and frustrate someone else or provoke a response .)

There should be a warning about you. I have not seen any comments where somebody has actually CLAIMED to be a BHAFC fan then actually slagged them off. Wind your neck in, who do you think you are? People can read and make their own minds up without a jumped up turnip like you putting on your pathetic WARNING.

You obviously haven't read most of the comments form HPR. Conversely, it would appear that HPR has now engaged in reasonable debate (maybe because of all the 'pathetic' whining? Maybe wants to be taken seriously and then revert back to negativity for it's 'comic' effect?). Whatever... I actually that the 'level playing field debate' is the way forward and whole heartedly agree with Mr Bloom and HPR (in this instance). I too will be able to get a season ticket for next season. Great lobbying from the club and i guess a bit of foresight from the Council.

I am a regular reader of the comments and have seen many of HPR's comments and although I don't agree with him I don't recall him saying he is a fan. To comment on articles there is not a provision that you must be a fan. He is entitled to say what he likes and the rest of us do not need a self righteous contributor to give us WARNINGS, we can make our own minds up.
I also note that some people enjoy his posts!
Anyway 'Up the Albion' and remember we have free speech for all in this country.

He has stated on several occasions that he is a "Fan".

championshipgull wrote:
WARNING : There are comments on articles proclaiming falsely to be from Albion fans; Their real intention is to defame BHAFC its fans or the Argus or to troll ( to intentionally anger and frustrate someone else or provoke a response .)

That's the best trolling post on here I think I've seen. Surely a wind-up?

I think he siad he was a season ticket holder and has alluded to such in the past. But enough... By your own rules, Championshipgull is merely having the same effect on you as HPR is on the rest of us. Get over it ;) ! And i will try to too!

Anyway, the total allocation of new seats (albeit in stages) will be more than the capacity of Withdean. How times have changed. I remember 30K plus crowds at the Goldstone and it was brilliant. I wonder how many Season ticket holders we will get now?

BHAFCSeagull, why do you only post in defense of the Troll.
The Troll does not need defending, and championshipgull has every right to express his point.

Championshipgull, is a genuine and honest contributor to this site and if you are a regular reader you would know this.

As you keep on saying, this is an open comment.

How do you think we will able to sustain filling the capacity of 25,000+ for next season when we arnt truthfully filling the full capacity of 22,500. I understand that we sold almost all the allocation last season and have averaged just over 20,000 over the season. Is there a fan base of 30,000+ who will go every week even if we go into the premier league?

When we went to the Millennium Stadium for the playoff final, we took 30,000 fans. You have to be prepared for the matches that draw the bigger crowd that we potentially have.

It also gives the opportunity to fans who cannot justify a season ticket because they can’t go to all the games, but will attend them on the spur of the moment. Being preparded and spontaneity is key here.

Albion fan in London wrote:
How do you think we will able to sustain filling the capacity of 25,000+ for next season when we arnt truthfully filling the full capacity of 22,500. I understand that we sold almost all the allocation last season and have averaged just over 20,000 over the season. Is there a fan base of 30,000+ who will go every week even if we go into the premier league?

The simple answer is; it they play well supporters will come, if they well against good opposition supporters will come. On a cold rainy Tuesday night against Scunthorpe, no dis-respect to Scunthorpe, then possibly not.

Anyway; have I missed something or does anyone know if the first batch of seat are going into the east stand upper.

Albion fan in London wrote:
How do you think we will able to sustain filling the capacity of 25,000+ for next season when we arnt truthfully filling the full capacity of 22,500. I understand that we sold almost all the allocation last season and have averaged just over 20,000 over the season. Is there a fan base of 30,000+ who will go every week even if we go into the premier league?

I think this is a fair post my friend and one that will be answered in the coming months.
My guess is that Mr Bloom is planning on further investment this summer and that with this investment and the hope of a strong push for promotion encourage further season ticket aquisition. probably a good assumption given there was a waiting list this season

Albion fan in London wrote:
How do you think we will able to sustain filling the capacity of 25,000+ for next season when we arnt truthfully filling the full capacity of 22,500. I understand that we sold almost all the allocation last season and have averaged just over 20,000 over the season. Is there a fan base of 30,000+ who will go every week even if we go into the premier league?

We have a fan bass of over 40,000.The reason why the attendance seemed lower than capacity is that the club gave 1,000 tickets to staff and they don't use the turn gates,also fans on holiday or not well and some company boxes not being full.Some away teams did not sell all their seats.When away team tickets were given back they soon sold.l expect us to average 25,000 next season maybe 26,500 and when we get to the premier league we will need evenmore seats.

Hovite wrote:
BHAFCSeagull, why do you only post in defense of the Troll.
The Troll does not need defending, and championshipgull has every right to express his point.

Championshipgull, is a genuine and honest contributor to this site and if you are a regular reader you would know this.

As you keep on saying, this is an open comment.

Not a warning - just an observation.... the rogue supporters arrive in several guises.... Our discomfort is their delight - don't ask me why - they are just like that. The oxygen of attention (no matter how vitriolic) is a sad but true delight to them. Look CAREFULLY at the posts and you will identify them.... and then avoid engaging if you want to bring this silliness to and end!

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:
Makes perfect sense to me. It makes it a much more even playing field for all the teams where money will not be able to buy success.
It will be down to the manager spending wisely and the skill of the current and new players within a sensible budget.

What a perfectly sensible comment, just to show it is possible to distinguish between when one is being wound up and when one is not being wound up.

I wouldn't want to stop anybody having their say, unless they go in to real "bad taste" - i.e. tasteless comments about deceased relatives, as has happened a couple of times to Billy Sharp over the loss of his son..... not necessarily on here.

Agree, we will average 25000 next season, a huge boost to our spending power.

Taking the waiting list into account, i would expect season ticket sales of 20k plus this season (anyone know the exact figures for this season? Was it 18.5K season tickets sold? Can't remember). Floating support has not really been catered for thus far, unless you were quick on the draw this season or took out a shared season ticket option from mates /family who could not go to a particular game. I agree that crowds of around 25K plus would seem to be the 'goal' with capacity for the more attractive fixtures. If we remain mid/ upper in the Championship for another year or two (i know we aim higher), would we get 30k plus each week? Especially for the less attractive and evening fixtures. At leat those of us that wanted season tickets can now get one.

Not only have we got a fantastic Chairman, Tony Bloom is instigating and leading the way forward in the strategy of fair play throughout the leagues.

We our very own Brighton Born ambassador for the game who is leading by example. Not many clubs can say this.

davidinsouthampton wrote:

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:
Makes perfect sense to me. It makes it a much more even playing field for all the teams where money will not be able to buy success.
It will be down to the manager spending wisely and the skill of the current and new players within a sensible budget.

What a perfectly sensible comment, just to show it is possible to distinguish between when one is being wound up and when one is not being wound up.

I wouldn't want to stop anybody having their say, unless they go in to real "bad taste" - i.e. tasteless comments about deceased relatives, as has happened a couple of times to Billy Sharp over the loss of his son..... not necessarily on here.

I thought HPR had said He was going to support Crawley next season.Maybe he would like to explain that Posting.

BHAFCSeagull wrote:

championshipgull wrote:
WARNING : There are comments on articles proclaiming falsely to be from Albion fans; Their real intention is to defame BHAFC its fans or the Argus or to troll ( to intentionally anger and frustrate someone else or provoke a response .)

There should be a warning about you. I have not seen any comments where somebody has actually CLAIMED to be a BHAFC fan then actually slagged them off.
Wind your neck in, who do you think you are?
People can read and make their own minds up without a jumped up turnip like you putting on your pathetic WARNING.

Ha Ha HOVEPARKRESIDENT and BHAFCSeagull are the same troll. Oh I’ve made “it” cross.

Busted

How very true the post Hovite has made regarding Tony Bloom-we are so very very lucky,& what's more we are led to believe he has a very good relationship with Gus which is wonderful for the club."Future looks bright" as they say.I hope to be successful in getting a Season Tkt next season-can't wait!

Anyway, back to the story:

Does anyone know which 3 Championship Clubs did not vote for fair play?

Pleased to note Blooms comments we must proceed carefully to ensure we do not run in to financial problems, the additional seats could be taken by those who for what ever reasons do not require a season so that purchase of a seat would depend on how well we are performing,proof of this is the situation at Coventry and Huddersfield

Albion fan in London wrote:
How do you think we will able to sustain filling the capacity of 25,000+ for next season when we arnt truthfully filling the full capacity of 22,500. I understand that we sold almost all the allocation last season and have averaged just over 20,000 over the season. Is there a fan base of 30,000+ who will go every week even if we go into the premier league?

I think most of the home games were 'sold out' for home fans. Others have explained why we didn't get 22,000 for every game. The last time I looked we were about 7th in the total attendance table for the Championship. If you looked at the percentage of the capacity we were filling, we were top by some margin at over 90%. That together with waiting lists points to needing more capacity. Building the ground for 22,000 initially was absolutely right for planning reasons and the Board needing to test out the latent demand for tickets following our years in the wilderness. We now know that lots of people want to come to a great stadium and watch good quality football - not to mention the pies and Harvey's Bitter! Well done to Tony Bloom and the rest of the team for making this all possible.

LACHANCE wrote:

Albion fan in London wrote:
How do you think we will able to sustain filling the capacity of 25,000+ for next season when we arnt truthfully filling the full capacity of 22,500. I understand that we sold almost all the allocation last season and have averaged just over 20,000 over the season. Is there a fan base of 30,000+ who will go every week even if we go into the premier league?

We have a fan bass of over 40,000.The reason why the attendance seemed lower than capacity is that the club gave 1,000 tickets to staff and they don't use the turn gates,also fans on holiday or not well and some company boxes not being full.Some away teams did not sell all their seats.When away team tickets were given back they soon sold.l expect us to average 25,000 next season maybe 26,500 and when we get to the premier league we will need evenmore seats.

we didnt sell out once this season at the amex even for the high profile games and where is the 40,000 fan base figure plucked from out of interest?
Like i said before we sold 19,500 season tickets apparantly so will I am guessing it will follow suit next season in terms of averaging 23,500 ish

Albion fan in London wrote:

LACHANCE wrote:

Albion fan in London wrote:
How do you think we will able to sustain filling the capacity of 25,000+ for next season when we arnt truthfully filling the full capacity of 22,500. I understand that we sold almost all the allocation last season and have averaged just over 20,000 over the season. Is there a fan base of 30,000+ who will go every week even if we go into the premier league?

We have a fan bass of over 40,000.The reason why the attendance seemed lower than capacity is that the club gave 1,000 tickets to staff and they don't use the turn gates,also fans on holiday or not well and some company boxes not being full.Some away teams did not sell all their seats.When away team tickets were given back they soon sold.l expect us to average 25,000 next season maybe 26,500 and when we get to the premier league we will need evenmore seats.

we didnt sell out once this season at the amex even for the high profile games and where is the 40,000 fan base figure plucked from out of interest?
Like i said before we sold 19,500 season tickets apparantly so will I am guessing it will follow suit next season in terms of averaging 23,500 ish

We SOLD OUT for nearly every game last season, the fact that some people chose not to use the seats that they bought is strange but the club cannot sell those seats twice to get the ATTENDANCE figure higher!

An ATTENDANCE of 19,500 does not mean that only 19,500 tickets were sold!

I see your point but but it looks like we have undersold for most of the season, sold seats and physically turning up and being present in your seat on the day are two very different things eg 1000 fans x £5 for lost revenue on match day... I truthfully hope you are right I am just not convinced it will be sustained when we increase the capacity, there again im in the stands and not working for the club!

only 5000 seats are going in the east stand now, the 4 corners will be filled when we hit the premiership.

The 40,000 fan bass is the amount of fans are on the data bass.When you think of the area that fans travel from to games is vast well over 3,000,000 peaple living.When you look at the last play off's we have the support.

The 40,000 fan bass is the amount of fans are on the data bass.When you think of the area that fans travel from to games is vast well over 3,000,000 peaple living.When you look at the last play off's we have the support.

In defense of pte, he wouldn't be old enough to remember the Moomins. Teletubbies maybe the generation?

Showing your age there fws?

Ah wrong thread

Sorry, hate c&p'ing but the quote function isn't working, at least not on my phone anyway (*irritating!*).

Chi Gull wrote:

"I think most of the home games were 'sold out' for home fans. Others have explained why we didn't get 22,000 for every game. The last time I looked we were about 7th in the total attendance table for the Championship. If you looked at the percentage of the capacity we were filling, we were top by some margin at over 90%. That together with waiting lists points to needing more capacity. Building the ground for 22,000 initially was absolutely right for planning reasons and the Board needing to test out the latent demand for tickets following our years in the wilderness. We now know that lots of people want to come to a great stadium and watch good quality football - not to mention the pies and Harvey's Bitter! Well done to Tony Bloom and the rest of the team for making this all possible."



Great post. We are indeed top of the 'percentage of capacity chart' for attendance.

The club have stated that every home league game this season did sell out - except in one or two cases where the 'second level' away allocation was handed back but availability of seats for extra home fans wasnt publicised early or well enough.

We currently have 17,500 STHs INCLUDING 1901s and a waiting list of 2,000 people many of whom have requested +1s and +2s i.e 3,500 on waiting list in total.

Even if a number of people don't renew (large numbers of such unlikely), we should still reach at least 20,000. Home capacity AT START OF SEASON increases by 5,000 with the other 500 for this season being 1901s in Jan.

10% of the new start of season capacity of 27,500 will be held for awayers = 2,750.

Therefore minimum home allocation will be 24,750 in August and 25,250 in Jan. this means that we could see as much as 22,000 STHs in August, depending on demand and how many the club would like to keep for match-by-match demand / sales.