Poyet hits back at claims Albion are big spenders (From The Argus)
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Poyet hits back at claims Albion are big spenders
5:00pm Friday 27th April 2012 in Albion By Andy Naylor
Poyet says Ipswich fans were wide of the mark with their banner
Gus Poyet has revealed the extent of the financial odds he has been fighting against to steer Albion into the top ten of the Championship.
The Seagulls will finish between eighth and 11th, depending on tomorrow’s last match of the season at Barnsley and other results.
They are guaranteed to be above much bigger spenders such as Ipswich, whose fans mocked Albion’s supposed financial muscle with a banner when they visited The Amex in February.
Poyet told The Argus: “People talk and think we’ve got more money than we have really got. There are for sure 15 teams better than us in budget and a few of them, or even most of them, even double.
“Ipswich had a player who played in the back four that played against us twice who is earning more than my whole back four but they (fans) came here with a big banner saying it’s not all about money.
“Well Ipswich fans I can tell you now if you didn’t know you have got double the budget of ours, confirmed, proven, so I think people are taking Brighton the wrong way which means if we finish in the top ten it’s an unbelievable season.
“If somebody wants to read it in a different way then you are not being realistic, very naive, and you don’t have a clue how it works.
“Even if you put transfers on top we are still 15th or 16th. I am not crying, I accept it, I just want people to know where we are standing.”
Poyet is hoping for a “nice surprise” when he sits down with chairman Tony Bloom next week to discuss the budget for next season and summer recruitment.
He said: “Our list is not massive because I want players with specific qualities in a salary range which is not the highest in the division and are a certain age and not too expensive (fee).
“To get one of your top two choices is very difficult. Most of the time you don’t, so you got for the third or fourth choice, so it’s not easy to be the head of football operations for my team because it’s not just about filling a position.
“We buy players with certain qualities and the better we do that job the better the team we’ll have, so we’ll see if we can achieve that. It’s not going to be easy.
“Normally you are going to try to buy a player, if he is British, that is proven in this division who is playing well.
“That costs money and we can compete with six or eight teams and we are not able to compete with the other 14 or 15. That’s the reality.”
Comments(44)
tooncgull
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5:16pm Fri 27 Apr 12
Anyway - lets hope Gus can get some bargains in next season.
Baldseagull
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5:21pm Fri 27 Apr 12
I reckon Gus has shown that he gets it right most of the time, especially if all the players that have come have been his 3rd or 4th choice for that position
davidinsouthampton
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5:33pm Fri 27 Apr 12
ballantrrae
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5:34pm Fri 27 Apr 12
So it looks as if Poyet is going to have a busy time in the next couple of months or so and judging from this thread quite a difficult time in acquiring the type of players he feels we need.
I shall be watching this space amongst others to see exactly who does join BHA. Interesting times ahead.
Hopefully we will end this season on a positive note by beating Barnsley.
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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5:39pm Fri 27 Apr 12
Oh sorry I forgot Vicente is off to bigger and better things so you may need to sign at least one.
farside
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5:39pm Fri 27 Apr 12
rolivan
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5:40pm Fri 27 Apr 12
ballantrrae wrote:Does that 16 include all of the players on contracts?
Looking at our existing squad and ignoring loanees and development squad players I can only see 16 players that imo will still be with the Albion next year. This list excludes Vicente who I hope will remain.
So it looks as if Poyet is going to have a busy time in the next couple of months or so and judging from this thread quite a difficult time in acquiring the type of players he feels we need.
I shall be watching this space amongst others to see exactly who does join BHA. Interesting times ahead.
Hopefully we will end this season on a positive note by beating Barnsley.
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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5:40pm Fri 27 Apr 12
davidinsouthampton wrote:Hopefully his P45.
Let's hope he does get a nice surprise when he sits down and talks about budget with Mr Bloom.
Cabin fever
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5:46pm Fri 27 Apr 12
I thought last summer was pretty special for new arrivals, but I reckon the summer signings will be even more impressive.
Great season, but onwards and upwards - together with 8,000 more fans packed in at the AMEX.
brightonup
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6:17pm Fri 27 Apr 12
ballantrrae
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6:21pm Fri 27 Apr 12
rolivan wrote:It excludes a couple eg Painter
ballantrrae wrote:Does that 16 include all of the players on contracts?
Looking at our existing squad and ignoring loanees and development squad players I can only see 16 players that imo will still be with the Albion next year. This list excludes Vicente who I hope will remain.
So it looks as if Poyet is going to have a busy time in the next couple of months or so and judging from this thread quite a difficult time in acquiring the type of players he feels we need.
I shall be watching this space amongst others to see exactly who does join BHA. Interesting times ahead.
Hopefully we will end this season on a positive note by beating Barnsley.
Chi Gull
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6:24pm Fri 27 Apr 12
- those with premier league parachute payments.
-those who haven't had to play in a converted athletics stadium for the last decade.
-those with richer chairmen and bigger debts than us.
I am happy the way things are. The budget will get bigger as we become more successful. Rome wasn't built in a day. As I said in a previous post, Gus has proved he can do well with a restricted budget.
Troll Busters
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6:29pm Fri 27 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Troll off
If they are as great as the majority of people who comment on here think they are surely they don't need any new signings. Oh sorry I forgot Vicente is off to bigger and better things so you may need to sign at least one.
farside
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6:39pm Fri 27 Apr 12
rolivan
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6:40pm Fri 27 Apr 12
Chi Gull wrote:It doesn't matter how rich their owners are they will have to conform to the new rules or pay the penalty
Clubs with a bigger budget will include:-
- those with premier league parachute payments.
-those who haven't had to play in a converted athletics stadium for the last decade.
-those with richer chairmen and bigger debts than us.
I am happy the way things are. The budget will get bigger as we become more successful. Rome wasn't built in a day. As I said in a previous post, Gus has proved he can do well with a restricted budget.
rolivan
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6:46pm Fri 27 Apr 12
farside wrote:Yes I agree with you that is what I said the other day if Vicente stays He might have a few mates.The way things are in Spain finances at clubs might be even worse than here in the UK and we might be able to get some really good players that others clubs don't know about.
Home grown players are expensive - is that a hint that we will be bringing in a few more foreign imports? That's my tip and I certainly hope so if Calde and Vicente are anything to go on
PittaPatta
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6:48pm Fri 27 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:I wouldn't normally bother commenting on this particular poster, but I feel that he has just given away his true allegiance.
If they are as great as the majority of people who comment on here think they are surely they don't need any new signings.
Oh sorry I forgot Vicente is off to bigger and better things so you may need to sign at least one.
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"Vicente is off to bigger and better things so YOU may need to sign at least one".
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Not a slip that a true Albion fan would make. As Noel Edmonds used to say "Gotcha!"
namgo49
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6:52pm Fri 27 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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6:59pm Fri 27 Apr 12
PittaPatta wrote:I have never said I was an Albion fan. I have a season ticket and enjoy football not that I've seen much of that!
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:I wouldn't normally bother commenting on this particular poster, but I feel that he has just given away his true allegiance.
If they are as great as the majority of people who comment on here think they are surely they don't need any new signings.
Oh sorry I forgot Vicente is off to bigger and better things so you may need to sign at least one.
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"Vicente is off to bigger and better things so YOU may need to sign at least one".
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Not a slip that a true Albion fan would make. As Noel Edmonds used to say "Gotcha!"
Troll Busters
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7:16pm Fri 27 Apr 12
Always at your service, no job too small!
rolivan
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7:18pm Fri 27 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Well you wouldn't have seen any good football if you are a season ticket holder at Palace.
PittaPatta wrote:I have never said I was an Albion fan. I have a season ticket and enjoy football not that I've seen much of that!
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:I wouldn't normally bother commenting on this particular poster, but I feel that he has just given away his true allegiance.
If they are as great as the majority of people who comment on here think they are surely they don't need any new signings.
Oh sorry I forgot Vicente is off to bigger and better things so you may need to sign at least one.
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"Vicente is off to bigger and better things so YOU may need to sign at least one".
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Not a slip that a true Albion fan would make. As Noel Edmonds used to say "Gotcha!"
Blooming amazing
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7:25pm Fri 27 Apr 12
gordongull
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7:31pm Fri 27 Apr 12
We don't have better players than other Championship sides, (with the recent exception of Vicente), and anyone can beat anyone.
B&HA have done so more often than most, and if anything, this season is a greater triumph for Gus than the last one, because his Title winning 1st division side were stronger than the available squad for much of this season.
We will again be relying on Gus's expertise against far wealthier clubs, but his record suggests that he can bridge the financial divide.
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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7:34pm Fri 27 Apr 12
Blooming amazing wrote:The website is for everybody and anybody that wants to comment, not just Albion fans. If you don't like it you know what you can do.
HPR You are just a very sad person. We DO NOT want YOU on our forum. This website is for true BHAFC Fans ONLY!!!
Blooming amazing
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7:48pm Fri 27 Apr 12
chappers7
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8:26pm Fri 27 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:HPR - you're never off this site. You really do need to get a life.
Blooming amazing wrote:The website is for everybody and anybody that wants to comment, not just Albion fans. If you don't like it you know what you can do.
HPR You are just a very sad person. We DO NOT want YOU on our forum. This website is for true BHAFC Fans ONLY!!!
Troll Busters
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8:26pm Fri 27 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Everybody with a valid opinion is welcome, you can Troll off.
Blooming amazing wrote: HPR You are just a very sad person. We DO NOT want YOU on our forum. This website is for true BHAFC Fans ONLY!!!The website is for everybody and anybody that wants to comment, not just Albion fans. If you don't like it you know what you can do.
Claude Back
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8:37pm Fri 27 Apr 12
Blooming amazing wrote:Why are you so upset with HPR? He is just having a laugh (at your expense apparently). His comments make me laugh because I don't take them seriously, nor should anyone else. I remember the days of someone (was it MBTS under an alias?) always banging on about 'Sussex Rich Kids' and the coaching staff eating KFCs. I used to enjoy that and the banter and humour then, even if I didn't agree with some of it. People are getting a little too precious about their football teams in my opinion and it's that sort of jingoistic intolerance that causes so much violence. Lighten up...you'll enjoy everything more. I used to comment on MBTS's spelling but I was never serious. I miss his inside info, where is he?
HPR You are just a very sad person. We DO NOT want YOU on our forum. This website is for true BHAFC Fans ONLY!!!
Never_Wrong
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8:52pm Fri 27 Apr 12
Blooming amazing wrote:Its not our forum. The best way of eliminating attention seekers is to ignore them.
HPR You are just a very sad person. We DO NOT want YOU on our forum. This website is for true BHAFC Fans ONLY!!!
pte
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8:52pm Fri 27 Apr 12
brightonup wrote:I think it wasn't all aimed at TB or BHA. It might have been an anti-capitalist protest at American Express which the stadium is named after- "that'll do nicely" cash v credit, credit crunch, banker's bonus etc.
...still don't fully understand that banner, although like WUMs messages I know they are intended to offend! lol!
Back to football, if the budget is so restricted, how could they pay a salary to tempt CMS away from WH or Leicester as well as pay 2.5m and pay Vincenze's wages? Think it's a load of BS
If Guss says he's bringing in 6 players including two for left and right backs currently loan players that means he will let go 4 players unless he aims to cut the size of the squad
Troll Busters
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9:05pm Fri 27 Apr 12
Never_Wrong wrote:That’s what the Spanish say about Gibraltar and the Argentines the Falklands, but we still claim them as ours.
Blooming amazing wrote: HPR You are just a very sad person. We DO NOT want YOU on our forum. This website is for true BHAFC Fans ONLY!!!Its not our forum. The best way of eliminating attention seekers is to ignore them.
I say bash the Troll!
HOVEPARKPRESIDENT.
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9:57pm Fri 27 Apr 12
bentnup
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10:27pm Fri 27 Apr 12
ry is still out on both counts. They have plenty of time to hone their skills ( which are very blunt at the moment). Too many loyal fans on here take theses richard craniums too seriously by far ! Let 'em enjoy themselves...its probably thr only fun they get.
Baldseagull
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10:49pm Fri 27 Apr 12
pte wrote:CMS came here despite better financial offers from West Ham and Leicester.
brightonup wrote:I think it wasn't all aimed at TB or BHA. It might have been an anti-capitalist protest at American Express which the stadium is named after- "that'll do nicely" cash v credit, credit crunch, banker's bonus etc.
...still don't fully understand that banner, although like WUMs messages I know they are intended to offend! lol!
Back to football, if the budget is so restricted, how could they pay a salary to tempt CMS away from WH or Leicester as well as pay 2.5m and pay Vincenze's wages? Think it's a load of BS
If Guss says he's bringing in 6 players including two for left and right backs currently loan players that means he will let go 4 players unless he aims to cut the size of the squad
I think the way we played at Peterborough last season impressed him massively.
Plus no decent footballer really wants to play it Fat Sam's way.
Vicente is paid within the clubs salary cap, he is playing for far less than he has been on in the past. He came to get fit, play football and see how he liked England.
Both could have had more money this season, and chose somewhere that they felt they would be happier playing, I hope they both feel happy with their choices.
Smartbloke
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11:06pm Fri 27 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Wrong, HPR. Scum like you aren't welcome.
Blooming amazing wrote:The website is for everybody and anybody that wants to comment, not just Albion fans. If you don't like it you know what you can do.
HPR You are just a very sad person. We DO NOT want YOU on our forum. This website is for true BHAFC Fans ONLY!!!
You gave up your right to post long ago.
Zamora25
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9:21am Sat 28 Apr 12
I would keep Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Mattock, Painter, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Dicker, Navarro, Sparrow, LuaLua, Vicente, Buckley, Noone, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes and release the rest!
AGT999
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9:51am Sat 28 Apr 12
Zamora25 wrote:Can't agree with keeping Ankegren or Harley and only keep Brezovan as cover for a new keeper which is urgently needed. Also, Mattock and Vokes are not ours to keep at the moment.
Poyet needs to reduce the size of the squad which is currently 48 to free up some cash for new signings.
I would keep Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Mattock, Painter, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Dicker, Navarro, Sparrow, LuaLua, Vicente, Buckley, Noone, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes and release the rest!
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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9:57am Sat 28 Apr 12
Zamora25 wrote:Nobody cares who you would keep. Now get back to your Subbuteo you sad little person.
Poyet needs to reduce the size of the squad which is currently 48 to free up some cash for new signings.
I would keep Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Mattock, Painter, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Dicker, Navarro, Sparrow, LuaLua, Vicente, Buckley, Noone, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes and release the rest!
Troll Busters
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10:16am Sat 28 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Leave his list alone, Troll off and get yourself a life.
Zamora25 wrote: Poyet needs to reduce the size of the squad which is currently 48 to free up some cash for new signings. I would keep Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Mattock, Painter, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Dicker, Navarro, Sparrow, LuaLua, Vicente, Buckley, Noone, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes and release the rest!Nobody cares who you would keep. Now get back to your Subbuteo you sad little person.
gordongull
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11:56am Sat 28 Apr 12
bentnup wrote:This has been my point exactly, Bentnup.
Both HPR and Carrot attempt(ed) to be humorous and or controversial.....ju
ry is still out on both counts. They have plenty of time to hone their skills ( which are very blunt at the moment). Too many loyal fans on here take theses richard craniums too seriously by far ! Let 'em enjoy themselves...its probably thr only fun they get.
There should be a minimum requirement for levels of wit, humour, and general entertainment value which apply to all Trolls.
Btw, Carrot is Turtling.
gordongull
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12:05pm Sat 28 Apr 12
Zamora25 wrote:What about Torby Adgestein?
Poyet needs to reduce the size of the squad which is currently 48 to free up some cash for new signings.
I would keep Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Mattock, Painter, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Dicker, Navarro, Sparrow, LuaLua, Vicente, Buckley, Noone, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes and release the rest!
pte
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3:36pm Sat 28 Apr 12
mark5
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7:48pm Sat 28 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Ha, ha, that's an amusing one! Very droll....!
davidinsouthampton wrote:Hopefully his P45.
Let's hope he does get a nice surprise when he sits down and talks about budget with Mr Bloom.
rolivan says...
5:13pm Fri 27 Apr 12