Poke puzzled about Albion future (From The Argus)
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Poke puzzled about Albion future
5:00pm Thursday 3rd May 2012 in Albion By Andy Naylor
Albion goalkeeper Michael Poke is undecided about his future.
He is torn between staying, because he likes the club so much, or severing his ties to have more chance of playing.
Poke has made only one first team appearance in two years with the Seagulls after signing on a free transfer from Southampton.
The 26-year-old, third choice behind Peter Brezoavn and Casper Ankergren, is back at the club to sort his future out after three months on loan at Bristol Rovers.
Poke told The Argus: "I had a year's option on my contract last year and signed it and I am in the same situation this time but I am not sure at the moment what is going to happen.
"I like it here. The club is run right, I like the way we play, I enjoy train ing and you could not ask for a better group of lads. The only thing missing is i'm not playing.
"It's a big club as well which is going places but at the end of the day you want to play games."
Poke performed well at Rovers under former Albion chief Mark McGhee but they already have the fit-again Scott Bevan and have signed 18-year-old Conor Gough from Charlton as his understudy.
Poke added: "Casper and Peter are both in their thirties and David James has been playing at 40 so, barring injuries, I have still got a long way to go.
"There is no substitute for playing games and that's what I want to do but when you are at a club you enjoy so much it's a hard one."
Meanwhile, Albion will not be making a move for Dean Marney, despite reports linking them with the Burnley midfielder, as he is well out of their wage range.
Comments(50)
albionfan33
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5:15pm Thu 3 May 12
Jonathan Mouette wrote:yes seems a bit poor if we cant afford him then who exactly can we bring in? seems we want champ/prem level players on L2 wages cant have the cake and eat it im afraid
The last paragraph is of most interest - with all respect to Pokey. If Burnley's Dean Marney is out of the Albion wage range what is all the talk of attracting class players with experience at the highest levels. Hardly what is required to reassure Vicente of our ambitions but maybe I feel another low budget excuse coming on - and we haven't even started looking yet...
Camicus
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5:17pm Thu 3 May 12
LACHANCE
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5:21pm Thu 3 May 12
Jonathan Mouette wrote:The only money we will have is from the gate receipts and TV and sponserships.So our budget will be lower than a lot of clubs.
The last paragraph is of most interest - with all respect to Pokey. If Burnley's Dean Marney is out of the Albion wage range what is all the talk of attracting class players with experience at the highest levels. Hardly what is required to reassure Vicente of our ambitions but maybe I feel another low budget excuse coming on - and we haven't even started looking yet...
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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5:24pm Thu 3 May 12
Get rid of all the dead wood NOW!!!
Zamora25
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5:28pm Thu 3 May 12
If we can't afford Marney who are we going to attract that is better than what we currently have? We are 15/16th in the championship in terms of the wage bill.
Who should we keep? Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Mattock, Painter, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Navarro, Sparrow, Dicker, Vicente, Lualua, Noone, Buckley, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes.
SMF20
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5:29pm Thu 3 May 12
Perhaps this is all a smoke screen.
mark by the sea
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5:30pm Thu 3 May 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:your not far wrong about the keeer situation, David James would be a ideal player to come in.. vocal and a decent keeper at 40. Poke is trying to get a pay off to go, He cant be that mad to believe he has a future here!
Why would you be torn about staying or going when you know you are just hanging around for your pay cheque because you're so bad nobody else wants you. He must be an absolutely horrendous keeper to be third choice behind Brezoavn and Ankergren who without doubt are the worst keepers I have ever seen. Get rid of all the dead wood NOW!!!
farside
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5:33pm Thu 3 May 12
We are reportedly interested in Kiren Lee and Chris Taylor from Oldham - realistically where we can afford to spend. Lee is a stand-out fullback in League 1 and will readily make the transition - a definite asset if we could get him. Not sure about Taylor - scored 11 this season playing a similar role to Ashley Barnes having been "converted" in the opposite direction to Ash - from a midfielder to a more forward position. Would add a bit of height but not sure if he could step up. If anyone knows though it is Gus!
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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5:36pm Thu 3 May 12
Zamora25 wrote:Please
Poke has played one game in two years for Albion and should be released by Poyet along with Gonzalez, Walker and East.
If we can't afford Marney who are we going to attract that is better than what we currently have? We are 15/16th in the championship in terms of the wage bill.
Who should we keep? Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Mattock, Painter, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Navarro, Sparrow, Dicker, Vicente, Lualua, Noone, Buckley, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes.
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mark by the sea
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5:42pm Thu 3 May 12
Zamora25 wrote:we cant keep Reyes, or Mattock because they are not ours! Ankergen wont lay for the Albion again.. Brez might be back up.. Vincelot is going I would have thought.. I am going to write a list myself!!
Poke has played one game in two years for Albion and should be released by Poyet along with Gonzalez, Walker and East. If we can't afford Marney who are we going to attract that is better than what we currently have? We are 15/16th in the championship in terms of the wage bill. Who should we keep? Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Mattock, Painter, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Navarro, Sparrow, Dicker, Vicente, Lualua, Noone, Buckley, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes.
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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5:50pm Thu 3 May 12
mark by the sea wrote:Noooooooo!!! NO MORE LISTS!!!
Zamora25 wrote:we cant keep Reyes, or Mattock because they are not ours! Ankergen wont lay for the Albion again.. Brez might be back up.. Vincelot is going I would have thought.. I am going to write a list myself!!
Poke has played one game in two years for Albion and should be released by Poyet along with Gonzalez, Walker and East. If we can't afford Marney who are we going to attract that is better than what we currently have? We are 15/16th in the championship in terms of the wage bill. Who should we keep? Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Mattock, Painter, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Navarro, Sparrow, Dicker, Vicente, Lualua, Noone, Buckley, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes.
championshipgull
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5:55pm Thu 3 May 12
farside
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6:02pm Thu 3 May 12
championshipgull
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6:08pm Thu 3 May 12
PittaPatta
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6:15pm Thu 3 May 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:But you're always leaning away from the Albion, and that's a list is it not?
mark by the sea wrote:Noooooooo!!! NO MORE LISTS!!!
Zamora25 wrote:we cant keep Reyes, or Mattock because they are not ours! Ankergen wont lay for the Albion again.. Brez might be back up.. Vincelot is going I would have thought.. I am going to write a list myself!!
Poke has played one game in two years for Albion and should be released by Poyet along with Gonzalez, Walker and East. If we can't afford Marney who are we going to attract that is better than what we currently have? We are 15/16th in the championship in terms of the wage bill. Who should we keep? Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Mattock, Painter, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Navarro, Sparrow, Dicker, Vicente, Lualua, Noone, Buckley, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes.
bruce beckett
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6:59pm Thu 3 May 12
bruce beckett
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7:02pm Thu 3 May 12
Captain Haddock
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7:05pm Thu 3 May 12
I guess he will go as it's all about game time after a while.
Would like to see us try for Kuszyak(sp?). He's a decent GK available to sign. Then keep Beez as back-up and say cheerio to the rest except our best development 'stopper' who'll be no.3.
Captain Haddock
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7:08pm Thu 3 May 12
fairweathersupporter
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7:18pm Thu 3 May 12
albionfan33
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7:18pm Thu 3 May 12
Captain Haddock wrote:kuszyak would show intent no doubt or id go for the sunderland no2 westwood cant see him being on fortunes and very solid this will be a more informative summer than last yr as to our ambitions for the next 2-3 yrs if there not prepared to pay the likes of marneys wages then he must be scouting spain/south america for cheap quality he will surely need a brit box to box type though
Difficult to call as he's only played once....saw the game and he didn't have much to do (so can't form an impression) though I think he wasnt very tall for a goalie, if memory serves.
I guess he will go as it's all about game time after a while.
Would like to see us try for Kuszyak(sp?). He's a decent GK available to sign. Then keep Beez as back-up and say cheerio to the rest except our best development 'stopper' who'll be no.3.
bruce beckett
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7:52pm Thu 3 May 12
farside
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7:54pm Thu 3 May 12
albionfan33 wrote:Lot's to ponder there and lots to agree with.
Captain Haddock wrote:kuszyak would show intent no doubt or id go for the sunderland no2 westwood cant see him being on fortunes and very solid this will be a more informative summer than last yr as to our ambitions for the next 2-3 yrs if there not prepared to pay the likes of marneys wages then he must be scouting spain/south america for cheap quality he will surely need a brit box to box type though
Difficult to call as he's only played once....saw the game and he didn't have much to do (so can't form an impression) though I think he wasnt very tall for a goalie, if memory serves.
I guess he will go as it's all about game time after a while.
Would like to see us try for Kuszyak(sp?). He's a decent GK available to sign. Then keep Beez as back-up and say cheerio to the rest except our best development 'stopper' who'll be no.3.
Poke's only game was a Carling Cup match at Northampton where he let one in through his legs and was partly at fault on a second. Sadly, first games aren't always a strong point for our keepers as Gonzalez will attest!
gordongull
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8:05pm Thu 3 May 12
gordongull
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8:07pm Thu 3 May 12
A lot of clubs will be under pressure to cut the wage bill or manage with smaller squads, so 'supply and demand' could force wages down as it has in many other industries.
albionfan33
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8:15pm Thu 3 May 12
gordongull wrote:well football certainly needs to step inline with normality some wages for kicking a ball about are stupid id be interested to know what marneys on just as a marker for whats an acceptable wage for a top half promotion challenging side
Giving the impression that this or that player's earnings are out of our range could be a bit of psychology to reduce wage expectations.
A lot of clubs will be under pressure to cut the wage bill or manage with smaller squads, so 'supply and demand' could force wages down as it has in many other industries.
The Real Ryfish
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8:49pm Thu 3 May 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Have you ever seen Poke play in a league match? No, I thought not.
Why would you be torn about staying or going when you know you are just hanging around for your pay cheque because you're so bad nobody else wants you. He must be an absolutely horrendous keeper to be third choice behind Brezoavn and Ankergren who without doubt are the worst keepers I have ever seen.
Get rid of all the dead wood NOW!!!
Oh, it's HOVEPARKRODENT... prob should have spotted that before deciding to reply. Oh well, no going back now!
cullipmyhero
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8:55pm Thu 3 May 12
Tommy11
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9:00pm Thu 3 May 12
rolivan
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9:43pm Thu 3 May 12
rolivan
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9:48pm Thu 3 May 12
albionfan33 wrote:I read somewhere that the average wage for a championship player is £4,000
gordongull wrote:well football certainly needs to step inline with normality some wages for kicking a ball about are stupid id be interested to know what marneys on just as a marker for whats an acceptable wage for a top half promotion challenging side
Giving the impression that this or that player's earnings are out of our range could be a bit of psychology to reduce wage expectations.
A lot of clubs will be under pressure to cut the wage bill or manage with smaller squads, so 'supply and demand' could force wages down as it has in many other industries.
PittaPatta
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11:23pm Thu 3 May 12
rolivan wrote:So how was the Amex financed? Without TB's money we would not have a new stadium. It might be interest free, but it is still a loan, and loans need to be paid back.
If we are going to have gates of 25,000 how can we have a budget 15/16th in the Championship doesn't make sense.
Baldseagull
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11:38pm Thu 3 May 12
rolivan wrote:That might be basic pay, but more like double that with appearances for regular first teamers.
albionfan33 wrote:I read somewhere that the average wage for a championship player is £4,000
gordongull wrote:well football certainly needs to step inline with normality some wages for kicking a ball about are stupid id be interested to know what marneys on just as a marker for whats an acceptable wage for a top half promotion challenging side
Giving the impression that this or that player's earnings are out of our range could be a bit of psychology to reduce wage expectations.
A lot of clubs will be under pressure to cut the wage bill or manage with smaller squads, so 'supply and demand' could force wages down as it has in many other industries.
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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12:44am Fri 4 May 12
The Real Ryfish wrote:As a matter of FACT I have and he was absolutely terrible. If he was any good he wouldn't be 3rd/4th choice at a mediocre Championship team would he?
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Have you ever seen Poke play in a league match? No, I thought not.
Why would you be torn about staying or going when you know you are just hanging around for your pay cheque because you're so bad nobody else wants you. He must be an absolutely horrendous keeper to be third choice behind Brezoavn and Ankergren who without doubt are the worst keepers I have ever seen.
Get rid of all the dead wood NOW!!!
Oh, it's HOVEPARKRODENT... prob should have spotted that before deciding to reply. Oh well, no going back now!
I can't say any more because the smell of fish around here is awful.
Maybe you should try a bath or shower more than once a year. Yuk.................
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Captain Haddock
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1:25am Fri 4 May 12
farside wrote:Ah rats! Yes I'm thinking of Mitch Walker.
albionfan33 wrote:Lot's to ponder there and lots to agree with.
Captain Haddock wrote:kuszyak would show intent no doubt or id go for the sunderland no2 westwood cant see him being on fortunes and very solid this will be a more informative summer than last yr as to our ambitions for the next 2-3 yrs if there not prepared to pay the likes of marneys wages then he must be scouting spain/south america for cheap quality he will surely need a brit box to box type though
Difficult to call as he's only played once....saw the game and he didn't have much to do (so can't form an impression) though I think he wasnt very tall for a goalie, if memory serves.
I guess he will go as it's all about game time after a while.
Would like to see us try for Kuszyak(sp?). He's a decent GK available to sign. Then keep Beez as back-up and say cheerio to the rest except our best development 'stopper' who'll be no.3.
Poke's only game was a Carling Cup match at Northampton where he let one in through his legs and was partly at fault on a second. Sadly, first games aren't always a strong point for our keepers as Gonzalez will attest!
Yes Poke had an unsuccessful debut. You're right, Farside.
IKnowNowt
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6:12am Fri 4 May 12
Troll Busters
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10:35am Fri 4 May 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:I can't smell anything bad on here.
The Real Ryfish wrote:As a matter of FACT I have and he was absolutely terrible. If he was any good he wouldn't be 3rd/4th choice at a mediocre Championship team would he? I can't say any more because the smell of fish around here is awful. Maybe you should try a bath or shower more than once a year. Yuk................. .HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote: Why would you be torn about staying or going when you know you are just hanging around for your pay cheque because you're so bad nobody else wants you. He must be an absolutely horrendous keeper to be third choice behind Brezoavn and Ankergren who without doubt are the worst keepers I have ever seen. Get rid of all the dead wood NOW!!!Have you ever seen Poke play in a league match? No, I thought not. Oh, it's HOVEPARKRODENT... prob should have spotted that before deciding to reply. Oh well, no going back now!
You will find that the stench is much closer to home as the internet is unable to broadcast smells.
Get back in your stinky box, Gimp!
The Real Ryfish
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12:33pm Fri 4 May 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:And I saw him once (this past season) and he was outstandingly good - kept Bristol Rovers in a game they could have lost by a cricket score.
The Real Ryfish wrote:As a matter of FACT I have and he was absolutely terrible. If he was any good he wouldn't be 3rd/4th choice at a mediocre Championship team would he?
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Have you ever seen Poke play in a league match? No, I thought not.
Why would you be torn about staying or going when you know you are just hanging around for your pay cheque because you're so bad nobody else wants you. He must be an absolutely horrendous keeper to be third choice behind Brezoavn and Ankergren who without doubt are the worst keepers I have ever seen.
Get rid of all the dead wood NOW!!!
Oh, it's HOVEPARKRODENT... prob should have spotted that before deciding to reply. Oh well, no going back now!
I can't say any more because the smell of fish around here is awful.
Maybe you should try a bath or shower more than once a year. Yuk.................
.
The Real Ryfish
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12:33pm Fri 4 May 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:And I saw him once (this past season) and he was outstandingly good - kept Bristol Rovers in a game they could have lost by a cricket score.
The Real Ryfish wrote:As a matter of FACT I have and he was absolutely terrible. If he was any good he wouldn't be 3rd/4th choice at a mediocre Championship team would he?
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Have you ever seen Poke play in a league match? No, I thought not.
Why would you be torn about staying or going when you know you are just hanging around for your pay cheque because you're so bad nobody else wants you. He must be an absolutely horrendous keeper to be third choice behind Brezoavn and Ankergren who without doubt are the worst keepers I have ever seen.
Get rid of all the dead wood NOW!!!
Oh, it's HOVEPARKRODENT... prob should have spotted that before deciding to reply. Oh well, no going back now!
I can't say any more because the smell of fish around here is awful.
Maybe you should try a bath or shower more than once a year. Yuk.................
.
The Real Ryfish
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12:35pm Fri 4 May 12
bruce beckett wrote:But did Dean Marney not play in the Premier League for a while? If so, he will be on higher wages than someone who has never yet graced that level.
If we can't afford to pay Dean Marney's wages how did we ever sign CMS? Are you telling me he's on less than a journeyman like Marney or did he receive a brown envelope? I don't believe anything I read these days and certainly not anything here. More like a PR machine for the club than a newspaper. If we want to be a big(ger) club, we spent start thinking like one.
Your comment about the Argus being a PR machine is laughable, though! Keep 'em coming! :-)
seagulljoe
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12:37pm Fri 4 May 12
Jonathan Mouette wrote:Do you know what Marney's wage demands were then? I, personally, am glad that we are not living beyond our means and am happy for the Albion to grow at a slow, steady pace. I would not be massively concerned if we didn't get promoted next season.
The last paragraph is of most interest - with all respect to Pokey. If Burnley's Dean Marney is out of the Albion wage range what is all the talk of attracting class players with experience at the highest levels. Hardly what is required to reassure Vicente of our ambitions but maybe I feel another low budget excuse coming on - and we haven't even started looking yet...
Hovite
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1:10pm Fri 4 May 12
Examples of football philosophy and development are the Spanish and German national sides, young players developing together, playing a certain system for years, and suddenly, it seems from out of nowhere, we see teams playing as real teams with almost a telepathic understanding of where everyone is and is going to on the pitch.
Athletico Madrid is another good example of this and I would even mention Swansea in this regard.
Promotion would be the icing on the cake but not the be all and end all at this stage.
mikeygit
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1:16pm Fri 4 May 12
albionfan33
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1:19pm Fri 4 May 12
seagulljoe wrote:getting promoted is not the point the point is if we cant sign players of marneys wage levels now how do we expect to buy them in 2-3 yrs time we will just be another floating champ side as the development of our youth will take at least 10 yrs to show real consistant quality we need to buy talent atm and that costs either we wait some yrs which the club says it wont be doing or we pay for quality players which according to the argus we wont be doing either
Jonathan Mouette wrote:Do you know what Marney's wage demands were then? I, personally, am glad that we are not living beyond our means and am happy for the Albion to grow at a slow, steady pace. I would not be massively concerned if we didn't get promoted next season.
The last paragraph is of most interest - with all respect to Pokey. If Burnley's Dean Marney is out of the Albion wage range what is all the talk of attracting class players with experience at the highest levels. Hardly what is required to reassure Vicente of our ambitions but maybe I feel another low budget excuse coming on - and we haven't even started looking yet...
roast
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1:36pm Fri 4 May 12
Alan G Skinner
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1:54pm Fri 4 May 12
roast wrote:Absolutely correct, too expensive might easily be interpreted as, not good value. I'm sure Gus and Chairman Bloom know exactly what they are doing and I'm sure we will all be very excited about the squad come July!
Just because we said he is too expensive does not mean we have a low budget, perhaps Gus thought he was not worth what he asked for / wants. His price has to be justified, no point breaking the bank for a player that isn't worth it......Glenn Murray wanted more, look how that ended up!
bruce beckett
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4:01pm Fri 4 May 12
12:35pm Fri 4 May 12
bruce beckett wrote:
If we can't afford to pay Dean Marney's wages how did we ever sign CMS? Are you telling me he's on less than a journeyman like Marney or did he receive a brown envelope? I don't believe anything I read these days and certainly not anything here. More like a PR machine for the club than a newspaper. If we want to be a big(ger) club, we spent start thinking like one.
But did Dean Marney not play in the Premier League for a while? If so, he will be on higher wages than someone who has never yet graced that level.
Your comment about the Argus being a PR machine is laughable, though! Keep 'em coming! :-)
I'm glad my postings bring you so much enjoyment, Ryfish. You always seem to find them interesting enough to respond to. Have you actually read the Q&A the Argus does each Tuesday during the regular season? It's like the ministry of disinformation. You can glean more interesting snippets about the club at the local fish and chip shop.
tinker000
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4:32pm Fri 4 May 12
Zamora25 wrote:For me there are 9/10 goner's from the list (incl all loaneeeees)Poke is 4th choice not 3rd as per Naylor for me would only keep Brez just as back up for a proper Keeper ,Walker will be gone to local club so lets build the team from there
Poke has played one game in two years for Albion and should be released by Poyet along with Gonzalez, Walker and East.
If we can't afford Marney who are we going to attract that is better than what we currently have? We are 15/16th in the championship in terms of the wage bill.
Who should we keep? Brezovan, Ankegren, Calderon, Reyes, Mattock, Painter, Greer, Dunk, El-Abd, Elphick, Hall, Vincelot, Bridcutt, Navarro, Sparrow, Dicker, Vicente, Lualua, Noone, Buckley, Harley, Forster-Caskey, Barnes, Mackail-Smith and Vokes.
SicklySeagull
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4:43pm Fri 4 May 12
I realise of course that we would qualify for a large sum if we had secured promotion but we would still have to find several million pounds to have any chance of staying up but we now know this sort of backing is not available, so lets enjoy what we have.
Jonathan Mouette says...
5:07pm Thu 3 May 12