Albion in race against time to keep Hall (From The Argus)

Oh dear! Looks like the Albion management got caught out with this one... Who can blame the lad - being employed on more money at Spurs, even if not in the first team squad, must sound a whole lot better than being stuck in the background at Brighton.

IMHO he should stay and develop with Gus and the coaching staff,probably very flattered by the interest shown by Spurs,but how much first team football would he play there?

Not seen enough of him, but if Spurs think he can bit part of a Champions League push in the future he must be worth keeping.

Hope he stays but no one could blame him if he chose Spurs (even if they are managed by Redknapp)

If he goes we will get a development fee and who knows, if he fails again (as he did before leaving us for Lewes) maybe we will get him back for a third time one day? Couldn't blame the lad for making the step up if he takes 'Arry's silver shilling.

It may be a case of 'what goes around comes around'. The Albion let him go three years ago and Lewes snapped him up. He was excellent for Lewes (scored a cracking overhead kick at Hampton & R) before Brighton came back for him. Now Spurs have come calling he may feel he owes little to Brighton as they obviously felt little for him originally, and certainly no loyalty, so why should he for them?

My biggest issue with this is why leave it until now? why so late in the day? I know Gus has his way and that we have to trust him and the rest of the management team to get it right but surely we may need a rethink on how we work contract renewal. Last week we were reading about GG having only a year left.

He's holding out for the best offer whether that be Spurs, Brighton or Bognor. Like all footballers he will go where the most money is, simple as that.

At the beginning of the season he was just a development squad member who may one day break into the first team.

Gus gave him a chance and he took it.

Even so, it was probably not expected that Spurs would come a-callin' so promptly, so the fact he was in a final year of contract left little time for us to realise he was genuine first team material and secure him on a longer deal.

Perhaps we did try to negotiate a new deal in Jan but he'd know of Spurs' interest and his freedom to talk to them imminently back then so little chance of success for us?

I just hope he recognises the greater opportunity for development and first team action he'd get with us.

Also, Gus wasn't manager when he was released previously so no need for him to feel aggrieved with previous decision.

Good prospect; some players reflect on where their longer term prospects lie - and do not go for immediate remuneration. Maybe Hall is one who fits that category.... it is all speculation though....

Money money money! If he really wanted to stay at Brighton he would have signed a new contract by now. He is waiting for a better offer from a better club. He'll be a goner very soon along with Vicente and anybody else with any sense.

@HoveParkResident:

I skim over your comments now and don't often read them becuase they are predictable, negative and repetitive. If not one person had responded to your comments during the recent Months then i imagine you would have lost interest in your daily postings and given up.

Aside from wanting to wind people up under a mystery disguise, i fail to understand why you take time out of everyday to post the rubbish on here that you do.

If you had an enjoyable and rewarding career, a lovely woman, many friends and a love of football then you wouldn't. It's as simple as that.

In the event of this episode become even more boring, give it up now. And for everyone else, please just ignore it and don't reply or mention him or his postings from here on in.

Albion Kev wrote:
@HoveParkResident:

I skim over your comments now and don't often read them becuase they are predictable, negative and repetitive. If not one person had responded to your comments during the recent Months then i imagine you would have lost interest in your daily postings and given up.

Aside from wanting to wind people up under a mystery disguise, i fail to understand why you take time out of everyday to post the rubbish on here that you do.

If you had an enjoyable and rewarding career, a lovely woman, many friends and a love of football then you wouldn't. It's as simple as that.

In the event of this episode become even more boring, give it up now. And for everyone else, please just ignore it and don't reply or mention him or his postings from here on in.

What does make me laugh is the amount of reply's to my posts from people who claim they skim over them and don't read them! Funny that!!
I say it as it is, unlike the majority on here who are blinded by the obvious. The bottom line is Brighton have a very poor manager and a very below average team. The way things are looking nothing is going to change for next season. Negative maybe, but when was the last time there was anything positive to say about Poyet and co? Very poor end to the season, no exiting signings to look forward to and to much nonsense about holding onto players who obviously don't want to be here.

So what are you worried about then?

Even out of contract, due his age, we can still command a transfer fee?

Hovite wrote:
So what are you worried about then?

Who's worried? Brighton fans should be though.

What makes Spurs think he is Premiership quality? He has only played three first team games!

The few times I saw Grant Hall I was very impressed and infact preferred him at left back to Painter. Similarly, like JFC, he looked to me like he's going to have a decent career in footy. Just hope with both of them it's at the Albion.

Grant should remember what happened to John Bostock - transferred to Spurs before he was ready, didn't get a look in and ended up being constantly sent out on loan. He finished last season struggling to make an impact at a League 2 club. Continue your progression at the Albion Grant.

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:

Hovite wrote:
So what are you worried about then?

Who's worried? Brighton fans should be though.

Not really, that is Tony Blooms job not ours. We have nothing to worry about so why should you?

I agree in some part with HPR, i think it will come down to money. At the end of the day, if Spurs are offering more with a longer contract he will leave regardless of guarentee of first team football etc. Lets be honest he has barely featured for us (3 games), whats to say if Spurs did sign him he would get a run out in carling cup with them. The Bostock comparision is slightly different as he was 16 when he signed for spurs, but it is a lesson for all aspiring footballers that when the big clubs come a calling it doesnt always work out! Personally i hope we keep him as he looks a very good prospect, but its all up to the player/agent!

Zamora25 wrote:
What makes Spurs think he is Premiership quality? He has only played three first team games!

you are a fool!!! please be quiet. if you no nothing about football. or any other walk in life where you need to mature into a role!!

albionite wrote:
It may be a case of 'what goes around comes around'. The Albion let him go three years ago and Lewes snapped him up. He was excellent for Lewes (scored a cracking overhead kick at Hampton & R) before Brighton came back for him. Now Spurs have come calling he may feel he owes little to Brighton as they obviously felt little for him originally, and certainly no loyalty, so why should he for them?

Did we have a proper Manager then ???? we had others who went also.

I was impressed by Hall when he got a chance to play. But, like JFC, Gus decided he needed those loan players and all of the you players were frozen out. If he is only 30 days from the end of his contract then it's not surprising that Spurs and others will take a chance on signing him. Maybe he has already advised Gus that he is moving on.

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:

Albion Kev wrote:
@HoveParkResident:

I skim over your comments now and don't often read them becuase they are predictable, negative and repetitive. If not one person had responded to your comments during the recent Months then i imagine you would have lost interest in your daily postings and given up.

Aside from wanting to wind people up under a mystery disguise, i fail to understand why you take time out of everyday to post the rubbish on here that you do.

If you had an enjoyable and rewarding career, a lovely woman, many friends and a love of football then you wouldn't. It's as simple as that.

In the event of this episode become even more boring, give it up now. And for everyone else, please just ignore it and don't reply or mention him or his postings from here on in.

What does make me laugh is the amount of reply's to my posts from people who claim they skim over them and don't read them! Funny that!!
I say it as it is, unlike the majority on here who are blinded by the obvious. The bottom line is Brighton have a very poor manager and a very below average team. The way things are looking nothing is going to change for next season. Negative maybe, but when was the last time there was anything positive to say about Poyet and co? Very poor end to the season, no exiting signings to look forward to and to much nonsense about holding onto players who obviously don't want to be here.

Kev's right, HPR must be an incredibly sad and lonely individual. We should feel sorry for him really, as we're probably the only contact he has with the outside world.

Only played three games for us and when previously released LEWES was his best offer,lets see how much Spurs will offer.

seagulljoe wrote:

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:

Albion Kev wrote:
@HoveParkResident:

I skim over your comments now and don't often read them becuase they are predictable, negative and repetitive. If not one person had responded to your comments during the recent Months then i imagine you would have lost interest in your daily postings and given up.

Aside from wanting to wind people up under a mystery disguise, i fail to understand why you take time out of everyday to post the rubbish on here that you do.

If you had an enjoyable and rewarding career, a lovely woman, many friends and a love of football then you wouldn't. It's as simple as that.

In the event of this episode become even more boring, give it up now. And for everyone else, please just ignore it and don't reply or mention him or his postings from here on in.

What does make me laugh is the amount of reply's to my posts from people who claim they skim over them and don't read them! Funny that!!
I say it as it is, unlike the majority on here who are blinded by the obvious. The bottom line is Brighton have a very poor manager and a very below average team. The way things are looking nothing is going to change for next season. Negative maybe, but when was the last time there was anything positive to say about Poyet and co? Very poor end to the season, no exiting signings to look forward to and to much nonsense about holding onto players who obviously don't want to be here.

Kev's right, HPR must be an incredibly sad and lonely individual. We should feel sorry for him really, as we're probably the only contact he has with the outside world.

Probably short,balding and hen pecked..

Ow, poor 'ickle HPR!


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If Brighton have offered a 3 year deal and Spurs are interested then he must be a hot prospect. If Spurs are willing to pay a fee then they are willing to pay a good wage so my guess is he'll be gone unless he's a stay at home mummy's boy (HPR please note thats how you stick the knife in)

I'd go even further and say they've already agreed a contract but the matter is on hold until the contract with Brighton expires as nothing can happen until then. Burke not Gus is handling the negotiations so that Gus doesnt take the blame when they inevitably fail

At 20 he should be playing regularly so he will go as he's only 5th choice here so what choice does he have?

I'm afraid that's what happens when you sign loan players instead of developing and playing the kids, but at 20 he's no kid

Please save me from this. Starved of any genuine news I'm condemned to checking this site several times a day to read either scurrilous speculation, the ramblings of the mis-informed, a man/woman who genuinely (judging from the amount of posts on a Saturday night) is a sad f**k who has nothing better in his/her life than constantly check a local paper's website for responses to their pathetic troll like posts, or those who believe I should take their posts seriously despite their lack of basic comprehension or the use of apostrophies. Please BHA, sign someone, state your support for the latest racist claptrap spouted by Luis Suarez, or have a fire break out in the new East Stand installation, before i die of this horrible, rank, awful tedium.

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:

Hovite wrote:
So what are you worried about then?

Who's worried? Brighton fans should be though.

I am a bit worried about your sanity, given your Staff Pass/Season Ticket delusion, but other than that, carefree!

pte wrote:
If Brighton have offered a 3 year deal and Spurs are interested then he must be a hot prospect. If Spurs are willing to pay a fee then they are willing to pay a good wage so my guess is he'll be gone unless he's a stay at home mummy's boy (HPR please note thats how you stick the knife in)

I'd go even further and say they've already agreed a contract but the matter is on hold until the contract with Brighton expires as nothing can happen until then. Burke not Gus is handling the negotiations so that Gus doesnt take the blame when they inevitably fail

At 20 he should be playing regularly so he will go as he's only 5th choice here so what choice does he have?

I'm afraid that's what happens when you sign loan players instead of developing and playing the kids, but at 20 he's no kid

Perhaps so, but to be fair, we didn't sign a loanee to his position(s)....Jara Reyes was cover (replacement) for Calde and the other were goalie / midfielders / forwards.

He can also fill in at right back.

Basically he's 5th choice so how is he going to get any playing experience here? He only had 3 games last season. He may not get into the Spurs team as a regular but he's not going to do that here unless GG goes to Barnsley and Dunk goes to prison.

If it were me I'd go to Spurs in a shot with a big BUT. BUT if Gus can guarantee him a certain number of games he should stay. Interestingly Gus is not handling the negotiations so it would appear there are no promises on offer. He's off

Probably like others who have enjoyed posting and reading messages on this site, I am going to take a break from it.
In doing so, I must acknowledge the tireless repetition and endless negativity of Hove Park Resident - and I salute attempts to prevent her/him from ruining genuine debate. To my surprise his/her focus on undermining the true purpose of the site has even won support from some who find him/her entertaining and who champion free speech - so s/he even has us falling out amongst ourselves - some feat! This abuse of the facility cannot be dealt with in the proper way by the Argus because s/he is careful to remain within the limits of the site terms. So - for people like me, who just want to exchange genuine comment and information without those exchanges being punctuated by endless drivel - there is no option but to take my leave.
We have a great club, with great supporters - and great prospects.
I hope it will not be too long before this site is virus free - but in the meantime best wishes.....

brightonup wrote:
Probably like others who have enjoyed posting and reading messages on this site, I am going to take a break from it.
In doing so, I must acknowledge the tireless repetition and endless negativity of Hove Park Resident - and I salute attempts to prevent her/him from ruining genuine debate. To my surprise his/her focus on undermining the true purpose of the site has even won support from some who find him/her entertaining and who champion free speech - so s/he even has us falling out amongst ourselves - some feat! This abuse of the facility cannot be dealt with in the proper way by the Argus because s/he is careful to remain within the limits of the site terms. So - for people like me, who just want to exchange genuine comment and information without those exchanges being punctuated by endless drivel - there is no option but to take my leave.
We have a great club, with great supporters - and great prospects.
I hope it will not be too long before this site is virus free - but in the meantime best wishes.....

Sorry to see you go but fully understand, what gets me is that no other similar club forum such as Saints on the Echo attract Tw@ts like HPR. It's a real shame because I enjoy reading the genuine fans postings, I don't think I will be far behind you!

pte wrote:
If Brighton have offered a 3 year deal and Spurs are interested then he must be a hot prospect. If Spurs are willing to pay a fee then they are willing to pay a good wage so my guess is he'll be gone unless he's a stay at home mummy's boy (HPR please note thats how you stick the knife in)

I'd go even further and say they've already agreed a contract but the matter is on hold until the contract with Brighton expires as nothing can happen until then. Burke not Gus is handling the negotiations so that Gus doesnt take the blame when they inevitably fail

At 20 he should be playing regularly so he will go as he's only 5th choice here so what choice does he have?

I'm afraid that's what happens when you sign loan players instead of developing and playing the kids, but at 20 he's no kid

If he choses to stay and fight for a first team spot at Albion, why does that make him a mummy's boy? If he has signed a 'pre' contract with Spurs, then it's perfectly legitimate to say so, no need to keep it quiet. At 20, why should he be playing regularly? Surely it's about pushing himself in training to catch the coaches eye and force himself into the team. Of course finances come into it, but at 20 years, he still has plenty of time.in his case I'm not sure that loan players had anything to do with his limited playing time, particularly in his proper position of CH(although I do concede that Mattock probably affected his chances (and at that stage Mattock, a specialist left back, was,and remains a better option surely) And of course, El Abd played well enough as fullback cover and as a CB)
I've posted previously that I like Hall and believe he's an excellent prospect at this stage. If Gus agrees, as he seems to, then it's about his powers of persuasion and Mr. Burke's negotiating skills,the agents advice, and of course the clubs wage structure and finances, within stated parameters. I for one hope he stays,
Que sera sera

tinker000 wrote:

albionite wrote: It may be a case of 'what goes around comes around'. The Albion let him go three years ago and Lewes snapped him up. He was excellent for Lewes (scored a cracking overhead kick at Hampton & R) before Brighton came back for him. Now Spurs have come calling he may feel he owes little to Brighton as they obviously felt little for him originally, and certainly no loyalty, so why should he for them?

Did we have a proper Manager then ???? we had others who went also.

Nothing to do with the first team manager, proper or not. Hinselwood and the youth coaches let him go. There were others who went, but they were not brought back were they, so are not in the position Grant now finds himself in - ie having the 'upper hand'.

Sky Sports understands that Barnsley have failed with a second approach for Brighton defender Gordon Greer

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pte wrote:
He can also fill in at right back.

Basically he's 5th choice so how is he going to get any playing experience here? He only had 3 games last season. He may not get into the Spurs team as a regular but he's not going to do that here unless GG goes to Barnsley and Dunk goes to prison.

If it were me I'd go to Spurs in a shot with a big BUT. BUT if Gus can guarantee him a certain number of games he should stay. Interestingly Gus is not handling the negotiations so it would appear there are no promises on offer. He's off

Too many if's, but's and guesses. Good imagination though pte.

Hovite wrote:

pte wrote:
He can also fill in at right back.

Basically he's 5th choice so how is he going to get any playing experience here? He only had 3 games last season. He may not get into the Spurs team as a regular but he's not going to do that here unless GG goes to Barnsley and Dunk goes to prison.

If it were me I'd go to Spurs in a shot with a big BUT. BUT if Gus can guarantee him a certain number of games he should stay. Interestingly Gus is not handling the negotiations so it would appear there are no promises on offer. He's off

Too many if's, but's and guesses. Good imagination though pte.

Imagination? You mean GG going to Barnsley or Dunk going to jail? LOL

Alfie T wrote:

brightonup wrote:
Probably like others who have enjoyed posting and reading messages on this site, I am going to take a break from it.
In doing so, I must acknowledge the tireless repetition and endless negativity of Hove Park Resident - and I salute attempts to prevent her/him from ruining genuine debate. To my surprise his/her focus on undermining the true purpose of the site has even won support from some who find him/her entertaining and who champion free speech - so s/he even has us falling out amongst ourselves - some feat! This abuse of the facility cannot be dealt with in the proper way by the Argus because s/he is careful to remain within the limits of the site terms. So - for people like me, who just want to exchange genuine comment and information without those exchanges being punctuated by endless drivel - there is no option but to take my leave.
We have a great club, with great supporters - and great prospects.
I hope it will not be too long before this site is virus free - but in the meantime best wishes.....

Sorry to see you go but fully understand, what gets me is that no other similar club forum such as Saints on the Echo attract Tw@ts like HPR. It's a real shame because I enjoy reading the genuine fans postings, I don't think I will be far behind you!

QFT I have to agree with you there Alfie/Brightonup. We have lost some cracking contirbutors and seem to be left with the trolls and WUM. The Argus should take action as they will soon lose a vast amount of advertising revenue when people no longer read there articals. Why we attract idiots is beyond me.

Too many Harveys wrote:
Please save me from this. Starved of any genuine news I'm condemned to checking this site several times a day to read either scurrilous speculation, the ramblings of the mis-informed, a man/woman who genuinely (judging from the amount of posts on a Saturday night) is a sad f**k who has nothing better in his/her life than constantly check a local paper's website for responses to their pathetic troll like posts, or those who believe I should take their posts seriously despite their lack of basic comprehension or the use of apostrophies. Please BHA, sign someone, state your support for the latest racist claptrap spouted by Luis Suarez, or have a fire break out in the new East Stand installation, before i die of this horrible, rank, awful tedium.

If you're after genuine news, why are you bothering with the comments section? Surely the story will tell you everything you need to know.

I honestly can't understand why people get so agitated or worked up about people that post on a free and public forum. What difference does it ACTUALLY make to your life in the grand scheme of things? Just ignore it.

That's exactly what I do when I see that Spooner dude and his horse on other stories. I can't stand the drivel he comes out with, so I don't read it.

I suggest you do the same with HPR's postings.

Has anyone seen the remote controls? I had 'em just a moment ago.
**** it, I want to change channel and watch the Eurovision. Come on Englebert!

9 of us wrote:
Has anyone seen the remote controls? I had 'em just a moment ago. **** it, I want to change channel and watch the Eurovision. Come on Englebert!

HPR. Are you going to the dogs tonight? If you are, can I ponse a lift?

Cheers mate