Defeat is cruel but Poyet pleased with performance (From The Argus)

mark by the sea wrote:
Funny old game, last year we were fortunate to win the first game, this time unlucky to lose". Time to remember just how far this club have come.. The days of awful coaching staff, rubbish players, and sitting in the with dean is only two years ago, Gus has it right, our weakness last year was in defence, This time next week we could have Bz in the club, subject to Berbatov signing for Qpr.

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:
Mr Poyet you can say what you like and try and dress it up as much as you like but look at the facts. When was the last time Brighton WON a league game????? Exactly! NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

rolivan wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
Funny old game, last year we were fortunate to win the first game, this time unlucky to lose". Time to remember just how far this club have come.. The days of awful coaching staff, rubbish players, and sitting in the with dean is only two years ago, Gus has it right, our weakness last year was in defence, This time next week we could have Bz in the club, subject to Berbatov signing for Qpr.

Has Gus ever said that He would like to sign Him?Next week things should really start hotting up in the Transfer Market.I am sure Agents will soon realise that a Percentage of something is better than a Percentage of nothing.For all of the endeavour today we didn't have an end product to get the all important first goal.

Hovite wrote:
Ah our village idiot

pjwilk wrote:
Off target,no marksman ,no points.Its a simple game ,get the ball in the net as fast and as many times as you can and make sure its one more than the other team.All these patterns and formations just clouds what the main objective is.

Neville wrote:
I see Craig Davies scored today for Barnsley,it was a shame he never really had a proper opportunity when he was with Brighton.

Hovite wrote:
Ah our village idiot

The Real Ryfish wrote:

pjwilk wrote:
Off target,no marksman ,no points.Its a simple game ,get the ball in the net as fast and as many times as you can and make sure its one more than the other team.All these patterns and formations just clouds what the main objective is.

So you don't believe in formations and positions? I am astounded that so many wonderful managers, students of the game, have been getting it so wrong all these years.

Neville wrote:
Most of the appearances were as sub so get your facts right before you write

pjwilk wrote:

The Real Ryfish wrote:

pjwilk wrote:
Off target,no marksman ,no points.Its a simple game ,get the ball in the net as fast and as many times as you can and make sure its one more than the other team.All these patterns and formations just clouds what the main objective is.

So you don't believe in formations and positions? I am astounded that so many wonderful managers, students of the game, have been getting it so wrong all these years.

What i am saying is we need to buy some natural goal scorers , forwards or midfielders who will shoot on sight,proven at this level,it is a formula for success,all the coaches in the world wont give a player natural ability.

Vince wrote:
Dear Argus, please can you ban "Hove park resident" from this site. He is not an Albion supporter and tries to disrupt the message board whenever he can. Usually when I see messages with his name on them I immediately leave the site as it's so boring to read his stupid comments and those of people who are idiotic enough to respond to him.

pjwilk wrote:

The Real Ryfish wrote:

pjwilk wrote: Off target,no marksman ,no points.Its a simple game ,get the ball in the net as fast and as many times as you can and make sure its one more than the other team.All these patterns and formations just clouds what the main objective is.

So you don't believe in formations and positions? I am astounded that so many wonderful managers, students of the game, have been getting it so wrong all these years.

What i am saying is we need to buy some natural goal scorers , forwards or midfielders who will shoot on sight,proven at this level,it is a formula for success,all the coaches in the world wont give a player natural ability.

GosportGull wrote:

pjwilk wrote:

The Real Ryfish wrote:

pjwilk wrote: Off target,no marksman ,no points.Its a simple game ,get the ball in the net as fast and as many times as you can and make sure its one more than the other team.All these patterns and formations just clouds what the main objective is.

So you don't believe in formations and positions? I am astounded that so many wonderful managers, students of the game, have been getting it so wrong all these years.

What i am saying is we need to buy some natural goal scorers , forwards or midfielders who will shoot on sight,proven at this level,it is a formula for success,all the coaches in the world wont give a player natural ability.

You mean a bit like the one that we already have and scored for Oxford today and had a blinder ...but Gus feels he needs more experience ??? I just don't see sense in some of Poyets decisions ....If your good enough your old enough ... JFC should be here in the first team not playing at lowly Oxford where he could get injured and then be out for rest of the season ..... I know Gus has never mentioned BZ ...but he would fit the bill perfectly ...Hope TB has enough money in his wallet ! GG

mark by the sea wrote:

GosportGull wrote:

pjwilk wrote:

The Real Ryfish wrote:

pjwilk wrote: Off target,no marksman ,no points.Its a simple game ,get the ball in the net as fast and as many times as you can and make sure its one more than the other team.All these patterns and formations just clouds what the main objective is.

So you don't believe in formations and positions? I am astounded that so many wonderful managers, students of the game, have been getting it so wrong all these years.

What i am saying is we need to buy some natural goal scorers , forwards or midfielders who will shoot on sight,proven at this level,it is a formula for success,all the coaches in the world wont give a player natural ability.

You mean a bit like the one that we already have and scored for Oxford today and had a blinder ...but Gus feels he needs more experience ??? I just don't see sense in some of Poyets decisions ....If your good enough your old enough ... JFC should be here in the first team not playing at lowly Oxford where he could get injured and then be out for rest of the season ..... I know Gus has never mentioned BZ ...but he would fit the bill perfectly ...Hope TB has enough money in his wallet ! GG

You seem to miss the whole point in development... If NFC was so good, surely another club other than Oxford would want him? Give the lad a break, he has ability, but needs to learn the game away from the pressure of the championship, yes he has. Performed well on one or two moments, but he needs to learn the game.

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Poyet out, sack the board, release the squad, bulldoze the Amex and build a industrial estate, scrap the new training ground. Come on people let's not get too excited, we played very well and it was "unfortunate", normally play like that away and you would be unlucky not to come away with a win. Vicente and Buckley back for Tuesday for Wrexham in disguise and maybe a "marquee" signing to boot. I seem to remember going to Southend on a glorious day like this for a season opener and getting done 0-2. I also remember we went on to win the league. Keep the faith. God bless Gus Poyet and god bless Brighton and Hove Albion.

Hovite wrote:

Vince wrote: Dear Argus, please can you ban "Hove park resident" from this site. He is not an Albion supporter and tries to disrupt the message board whenever he can. Usually when I see messages with his name on them I immediately leave the site as it's so boring to read his stupid comments and those of people who are idiotic enough to respond to him.

Why respond to him then?

HOVEPARKPRESIDENT. wrote:
Have faith, victory against cardiff and we are back to winning ways. Genuinely believe we will improve on last season and a top 6 finish is easily achievable.

Tony the tiger eastbourne wrote:

HOVEPARKPRESIDENT. wrote:
Have faith, victory against cardiff and we are back to winning ways. Genuinely believe we will improve on last season and a top 6 finish is easily achievable.

Is HOVEPARKRESIDENT on drugs??? One minute he's slagging off Poyet and the team, next hes praising them. Praise seems to be given when the drugs wear off. He is not an ALBION supporter,

Alfie T wrote:

Tony the tiger eastbourne wrote:

HOVEPARKPRESIDENT. wrote:
Have faith, victory against cardiff and we are back to winning ways. Genuinely believe we will improve on last season and a top 6 finish is easily achievable.

Is HOVEPARKRESIDENT on drugs??? One minute he's slagging off Poyet and the team, next hes praising them. Praise seems to be given when the drugs wear off. He is not an ALBION supporter,

Tony, read the small print,HPR & HPP,different posters,one's a fan the other a Tw@t.

Gazza by the sea wrote:
If we play like this away from home all season we"ll pick up a lot more points than last. That was better than anything I saw last season (and I saw them all). Keep the faith. Can't believe it will happen but add Zamora and Trotter to that line up and we'll win the league!

Vince wrote:
Dear Argus, please can you ban "Hove park resident" from this site. He is not an Albion supporter and tries to disrupt the message board whenever he can. Usually when I see messages with his name on them I immediately leave the site as it's so boring to read his stupid comments and those of people who are idiotic enough to respond to him.

Perseus wrote:
On the radio it sounded a much better performance than most away matches last season.

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Have to agree with Amexicanwave. Have always liked Dicker and he was outstanding yesterday. Comfortable on the ball, linked play intelligently and tackled back when he had to. Biggest worry yesterday?... the quality of the bench (and the frailty of Vicente of course). Our back-up options in midfield are bottom 6 rather than top 6 material. Assume Gus is on the case but early season injuries to any of the starting eleven and my optimism after yesterday's performance will soon fade.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Too many people talking about 18 shots and linking CMS to them.Yes there were 18 shots but only 4 of them fell to CMS. Two of his attempts were off target, one hit the woodwork and one forced a good save, I can live with that. The better the service he gets the better the chances of him scoring.

Soccor is not a sport where, if you ALWAYS play well you will ALWAYS win, that attitude belongs to boxing where you can win on points or a knockout.

Who ever GP brings in as our new striker is going to face a lot of pressure from those who post on here, and probably a lot of those who don't. It seems that what people are saying is, sign a player and he will score because we expect him to, that's not how it works, Andy Carrol and his time at Liverpool tells us that and if you want more proof how about Torres at Chelsea.

When GP signs our new strike partner for CMS he will consider how that player fits into our line up and our way of playing, and he will do the same for any new midfield player or centerback. Individuals will not get us promoted but team performances will and by all accounts yesterday's match was a good team performance.



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Hovite wrote:
Just seen the extended highlights and liked what I saw. Anyone else had a chance to see this on the seagulls player?

albionbloke wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Too many people talking about 18 shots and linking CMS to them.Yes there were 18 shots but only 4 of them fell to CMS. Two of his attempts were off target, one hit the woodwork and one forced a good save, I can live with that. The better the service he gets the better the chances of him scoring. Soccor is not a sport where, if you ALWAYS play well you will ALWAYS win, that attitude belongs to boxing where you can win on points or a knockout. Who ever GP brings in as our new striker is going to face a lot of pressure from those who post on here, and probably a lot of those who don't. It seems that what people are saying is, sign a player and he will score because we expect him to, that's not how it works, Andy Carrol and his time at Liverpool tells us that and if you want more proof how about Torres at Chelsea. When GP signs our new strike partner for CMS he will consider how that player fits into our line up and our way of playing, and he will do the same for any new midfield player or centerback. Individuals will not get us promoted but team performances will and by all accounts yesterday's match was a good team performance. ,

Been in the desert too long mate. It's 'football' when talkin' to us Brits :)

Captain Haddock wrote:
Good game and a very decent performance from the lads.

We were very unlucky to come away pointless and really should have won it...we were in the ascendancy more and more as the game wore on.

Had a good day out in good company and contrary to the suggestion of the last paragraph or two of the above article, we were in very high spirits on the journey home.

Plenty of very loud singing with an extensive repertoire and a certain Mr Bloom was aboard the fun bus (albeit in a different carriage).

No problem at all about today. We played well, moved the ball a lot better and quicker and looked lively. Nooney had a much better game, CMS did very well and was a constant pest and there looked a good balance to the team.

Can't wait for Tuesday.

VegasSeagull wrote:
If there are three players out there that would satisfy our needs up front, in midfield and at center back, how many other clubs do you think there are also interested in these three players.

In my humble opinion the best asset we have is Gus Poyet, he could be the deal maker. Players that might come to us on loan, and I do think that we are more likely to go that way two of the three we need, will choose us because of what Poyet can do for their progress.

If we offer a million for a player many other clubs could double that bid. If we can pay 20% of a loan player's wages, other clubs can off maybe 40%. We are the only club that has Gus Poyet and there are very few of his type around.

Every thing we have today, our stadium, backroom set up, ambition, our prospects and several of our players is do to the fact that we have Poyet. Tony Bloom knows the value of this man, he knows that we build our club on his back. This is not the time to be bemoaning the fact that players have not come, this is the time to demonstrate our faith in the best asset Brighton has. The players will come, not any players, but the right players.

surreyalbion wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
If there are three players out there that would satisfy our needs up front, in midfield and at center back, how many other clubs do you think there are also interested in these three players.

In my humble opinion the best asset we have is Gus Poyet, he could be the deal maker. Players that might come to us on loan, and I do think that we are more likely to go that way two of the three we need, will choose us because of what Poyet can do for their progress.

If we offer a million for a player many other clubs could double that bid. If we can pay 20% of a loan player's wages, other clubs can off maybe 40%. We are the only club that has Gus Poyet and there are very few of his type around.

Every thing we have today, our stadium, backroom set up, ambition, our prospects and several of our players is do to the fact that we have Poyet. Tony Bloom knows the value of this man, he knows that we build our club on his back. This is not the time to be bemoaning the fact that players have not come, this is the time to demonstrate our faith in the best asset Brighton has. The players will come, not any players, but the right players.

Sorry, but that is totally OTT. Poyet is not The Messiah.

surreyalbion wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
If there are three players out there that would satisfy our needs up front, in midfield and at center back, how many other clubs do you think there are also interested in these three players.

In my humble opinion the best asset we have is Gus Poyet, he could be the deal maker. Players that might come to us on loan, and I do think that we are more likely to go that way two of the three we need, will choose us because of what Poyet can do for their progress.

If we offer a million for a player many other clubs could double that bid. If we can pay 20% of a loan player's wages, other clubs can off maybe 40%. We are the only club that has Gus Poyet and there are very few of his type around.

Every thing we have today, our stadium, backroom set up, ambition, our prospects and several of our players is do to the fact that we have Poyet. Tony Bloom knows the value of this man, he knows that we build our club on his back. This is not the time to be bemoaning the fact that players have not come, this is the time to demonstrate our faith in the best asset Brighton has. The players will come, not any players, but the right players.

Sorry, but that is totally OTT. Poyet is not The Messiah.

Hovite wrote:
Look, this is my own view and I know others will think different. There were many games last year when we played awful but still managed to pinch a point or three. They were not good games of football to watch.

Primarily all I want this season are good direct team performances and that’s what we got yesterday. Team consistency is key to progress and the goals will come. I don’t want to see a bad game where we rob the opposition and end up being lucky. CMS had a great game yesterday and would have scored a couple had it not been for the crossbar and a good save. All the players had a good game yesterday and I hope we play like that for the rest of the season, win, lose or draw.

VegasSeagull wrote:
If there are three players out there that would satisfy our needs up front, in midfield and at center back, how many other clubs do you think there are also interested in these three players.

In my humble opinion the best asset we have is Gus Poyet, he could be the deal maker. Players that might come to us on loan, and I do think that we are more likely to go that way two of the three we need, will choose us because of what Poyet can do for their progress.

If we offer a million for a player many other clubs could double that bid. If we can pay 20% of a loan player's wages, other clubs can off maybe 40%. We are the only club that has Gus Poyet and there are very few of his type around.

Every thing we have today, our stadium, backroom set up, ambition, our prospects and several of our players is do to the fact that we have Poyet. Tony Bloom knows the value of this man, he knows that we build our club on his back. This is not the time to be bemoaning the fact that players have not come, this is the time to demonstrate our faith in the best asset Brighton has. The players will come, not any players, but the right players.

Captain Haddock wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Look, this is my own view and I know others will think different. There were many games last year when we played awful but still managed to pinch a point or three. They were not good games of football to watch.

Primarily all I want this season are good direct team performances and that’s what we got yesterday. Team consistency is key to progress and the goals will come. I don’t want to see a bad game where we rob the opposition and end up being lucky. CMS had a great game yesterday and would have scored a couple had it not been for the crossbar and a good save. All the players had a good game yesterday and I hope we play like that for the rest of the season, win, lose or draw.

No I don't think differently. I hunk you're spot on.

For me it's about good football. If we do that week in week out I'll be happy and the majority of fans will too.

With the right personnel which we largely have already (with the rest to follow) we'll be successful and progress playing that way anyway!

Great game Saturday. Can't wait for tmrw now.