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Keepers excel on record-breaking Amex night (From The Argus)
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Keepers excel on record-breaking Amex night
9:48pm Tuesday 21st August 2012 in Albion By Brian Owen
Ashley Barnes heads goalwards (photos Simon Dack)
Albion shared a goalless draw with Cardiff on a record–breaking night at The Amex.
And both goalkeepers played their part in ensuring the game ended 0-0 with stunning second-half saves.
First Cardiff keeper David Marshall somehow stuck out a foot to divert a 20-yard drive through a crowd of players by Bruno.
Then Tomasz Kuszczak somehow stopped a Joe Mason snapshot and bravely blocked Etien Velikonja’s follow-up.
It was entertaining fare for a crowd of 25,510 – the best yet at The Amex and Albion’s biggest home league attendance in 30 years.
But the Seagulls are still searching for their first goal of the season.
They made a slow start – then had chances to go ahead in a thoroughly entertaining first half.
Craig Mackail-Smith headed off his own line from Mark Hudson and Heidar Helguson shot a great chance over the bar early on.
Albion were given new heart by a fine move on 22 minutes which should have brought the lead.
Andrew Crofts cleverly dummied over Liam Bridcutt’s pass but Mackail-Smith saw his quickly hit shot pushed to safety by keeper David Marshall.
Thast sparked a spell of home pressure as they attacked towards the South Stand.
Ashley Barnes was just unable to bring down a superb Gordon Greer through ball in time to get a shot off.
Then Barnes headed Craig Noone’s cross from the right over the bar.
Noone cut inside next time and his left-foot shot was parried by Marshall, with Bruno hammering the rebound into the side-netting.
Cardiff, though, remained an intermittent threat and Kuszczak had to be alert to push Peter Whittingham’s free-kick away from the top corner.
Comments(79)
paul the hill
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10:00pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Get JFC back from his loan as cover for Vicente
hannover seagull
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10:03pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Great crowd(highest in the league tonight)
Great atmosphere
Come on boys lets start finding the net again
UTA.................
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bruce beckett
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10:04pm Tue 21 Aug 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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10:11pm Tue 21 Aug 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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10:11pm Tue 21 Aug 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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10:11pm Tue 21 Aug 12
VegasSeagull
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10:12pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Did he get the right service in the second half or did he not take up the right positions to be passed to I don't know. .
pjwilk
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10:14pm Tue 21 Aug 12
SMF20
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10:18pm Tue 21 Aug 12
VegasSeagull
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10:19pm Tue 21 Aug 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Sorry sir but I think you are wrong.
Who cares if there was 25000+. Will they still come when Brighton drop down to League One. Yet another game without a win and the so called star man Vicente on the bench for 80 mins. Poyet simply hasn't got a clue.
Poyet might well have identified players that he wants and they might well be available but there are many considerations that come into play.
Does the player want to come to us.
Do we have the purchase price.
Can we afford his wage demands.
Does his present club want to wait untill they have a replacement.
Vicente on the bench all but the last ten minutes was clearly a cautionary decision regarding the slight injury.
Who cares if 25,000+ people turned up, well you should because it's club income that helps us sign new players.
hannover seagull
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10:20pm Tue 21 Aug 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Who cares ?
Who cares if there was 25000+. Will they still come when Brighton drop down to League One. Yet another game without a win and the so called star man Vicente on the bench for 80 mins. Poyet simply hasn't got a clue.
obviously you do otherwise you would not have noticed
rolivan
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10:25pm Tue 21 Aug 12
hannover seagull wrote:Please ignore Him everybody then He will have go away and think up a new like Mr Carrot.
HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:Who cares ?
Who cares if there was 25000+. Will they still come when Brighton drop down to League One. Yet another game without a win and the so called star man Vicente on the bench for 80 mins. Poyet simply hasn't got a clue.
obviously you do otherwise you would not have noticed
thetungsten
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10:25pm Tue 21 Aug 12
SMF20
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10:29pm Tue 21 Aug 12
thetungsten wrote:I'm with you my friend. 2 more players as mentioned and we will be the finished article.
It really doesn't take a genius to work out what the problem is.... We lack a powerful midfielder and a physical hold up striker. Tonight was like watching the last 15 games of last season albeit with a far more solid defence.... Frustrating football. Nothing to offer in the final third!!! Absolutely nothing. Something radical needs to be sorted soon or we are in danger of being a bottom half team. We knew what we needed 8 months ago and am quite frankly disappointed that with 10 days to go in the transfer window we are where we are. What's the point on forking out on management / background staff to be premiership class behind the scenes when we can't do the same on the pitch. Frustrated, frustrated frustrated!!!
thetungsten
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10:30pm Tue 21 Aug 12
VegasSeagull wrote:Cms was playing like he was a winger / defensive midfielder.... Even bridcutt got forward more than him. Cms in my mind gets in the wrong positions ie he is not to be seen when a through ball goes forward. It's nothing to do with supply/ delivery it's to do with his positioning on the pitch. Maybe gus could drop noone and put CMs on the wing, would be more dangerous there than up front !!
If any of you wish to, check out the bbc sport web site text comentary on the match, and count how many times CMS is mentioned in the second half.
Did he get the right service in the second half or did he not take up the right positions to be passed to I don't know. .
JoeBlow
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10:30pm Tue 21 Aug 12
thetungsten wrote:We may have known what we needed 8 months ago but clearly Gus Poyet has been holding out to get the very best striker he can. The better the striker, the more they can leverage the transfer window and play brinkmanship with the teams chasing them (the good ones always have multiple teams after them). Only time will tell if Poyet gets his man or has to settle for a lesser option on loan.
It really doesn't take a genius to work out what the problem is.... We lack a powerful midfielder and a physical hold up striker. Tonight was like watching the last 15 games of last season albeit with a far more solid defence.... Frustrating football. Nothing to offer in the final third!!! Absolutely nothing. Something radical needs to be sorted soon or we are in danger of being a bottom half team. We knew what we needed 8 months ago and am quite frankly disappointed that with 10 days to go in the transfer window we are where we are. What's the point on forking out on management / background staff to be premiership class behind the scenes when we can't do the same on the pitch. Frustrated, frustrated frustrated!!!
wole
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10:31pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Poyet has had the best part of 9 months to BUY a hold up striker and has failed to produce the man.
It is a shame as most teams will get no change from our full backs but we will fail to get CMS involved without the hold up forward needed and until then i'm afraid to say Brighton WILL struggle this season.
SMF20
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10:33pm Tue 21 Aug 12
wole wrote:Isnt that the truth
Although HPR does talk a lot of nonsense and in most cases just to wind you lot up, in this statement he is 100% correct.
Poyet has had the best part of 9 months to BUY a hold up striker and has failed to produce the man.
It is a shame as most teams will get no change from our full backs but we will fail to get CMS involved without the hold up forward needed and until then i'm afraid to say Brighton WILL struggle this season.
pjwilk
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10:34pm Tue 21 Aug 12
SMF20
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10:36pm Tue 21 Aug 12
pjwilk wrote:As well as the best goalkeeper, defence and midfield.
Without goalscorers we could have the best facilities i.e ground ,backroom staff and training Facilities in the First division,I hope not.
rolivan
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10:36pm Tue 21 Aug 12
thetungsten wrote:Have the 3 new signings improved the squad I think the answer to that is a resounding yes, you obviously think differently.Gus is only after players that will improve us and as He keeps saying He has players in mind getting them is the difficult part.I am sure the Transfer market is only luke warm and will really hot up in the next few days.I would be more worried if I was Man U supporter after last night.
It really doesn't take a genius to work out what the problem is.... We lack a powerful midfielder and a physical hold up striker. Tonight was like watching the last 15 games of last season albeit with a far more solid defence.... Frustrating football. Nothing to offer in the final third!!! Absolutely nothing. Something radical needs to be sorted soon or we are in danger of being a bottom half team. We knew what we needed 8 months ago and am quite frankly disappointed that with 10 days to go in the transfer window we are where we are. What's the point on forking out on management / background staff to be premiership class behind the scenes when we can't do the same on the pitch. Frustrated, frustrated frustrated!!!
thetungsten
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10:37pm Tue 21 Aug 12
JoeBlow wrote:Fair enough but it hasn't prevented the other 21 teams in the league securing new strikers!!!
thetungsten wrote:We may have known what we needed 8 months ago but clearly Gus Poyet has been holding out to get the very best striker he can. The better the striker, the more they can leverage the transfer window and play brinkmanship with the teams chasing them (the good ones always have multiple teams after them). Only time will tell if Poyet gets his man or has to settle for a lesser option on loan.
It really doesn't take a genius to work out what the problem is.... We lack a powerful midfielder and a physical hold up striker. Tonight was like watching the last 15 games of last season albeit with a far more solid defence.... Frustrating football. Nothing to offer in the final third!!! Absolutely nothing. Something radical needs to be sorted soon or we are in danger of being a bottom half team. We knew what we needed 8 months ago and am quite frankly disappointed that with 10 days to go in the transfer window we are where we are. What's the point on forking out on management / background staff to be premiership class behind the scenes when we can't do the same on the pitch. Frustrated, frustrated frustrated!!!
thetungsten
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10:40pm Tue 21 Aug 12
rolivan wrote:Clearly the 3 signings are class and have made a difference. Would be happier to play for 3 points each game rather than 1 or a hull situation 0 . Our defence will not get us promoted I'm afraid :(
thetungsten wrote:Have the 3 new signings improved the squad I think the answer to that is a resounding yes, you obviously think differently.Gus is only after players that will improve us and as He keeps saying He has players in mind getting them is the difficult part.I am sure the Transfer market is only luke warm and will really hot up in the next few days.I would be more worried if I was Man U supporter after last night.
It really doesn't take a genius to work out what the problem is.... We lack a powerful midfielder and a physical hold up striker. Tonight was like watching the last 15 games of last season albeit with a far more solid defence.... Frustrating football. Nothing to offer in the final third!!! Absolutely nothing. Something radical needs to be sorted soon or we are in danger of being a bottom half team. We knew what we needed 8 months ago and am quite frankly disappointed that with 10 days to go in the transfer window we are where we are. What's the point on forking out on management / background staff to be premiership class behind the scenes when we can't do the same on the pitch. Frustrated, frustrated frustrated!!!
gordongull
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10:48pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Yes, certainly Cardiff and Hull are amongst the better sides in the Championship,- there are about 16 of them.
If we become cut adrift at an early stage from from the leading bunch, which is likely to consist of about 50% of teams in the division, we will find that enough of those sides have the quality and consistency to keep us out of contention.
Unlike the majority of games last season, the quality and speed in attack is creating chance after chance, all of which are being rejected by our strikeforce (and others).
Our season now depends on the acquisition of a forward who can take advantage of this increase in goal-scoring opportunities, preferably before our next match at Barnsley.
Losing that one isn't an option!
VegasSeagull
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10:51pm Tue 21 Aug 12
wole wrote:I guess if he is right and all those bemoaning the fact that we have not as yet spent our money on new players are also right, Sir Alex Feguson must be useless at his job.
Although HPR does talk a lot of nonsense and in most cases just to wind you lot up, in this statement he is 100% correct. Poyet has had the best part of 9 months to BUY a hold up striker and has failed to produce the man. It is a shame as most teams will get no change from our full backs but we will fail to get CMS involved without the hold up forward needed and until then i'm afraid to say Brighton WILL struggle this season.
United lost 1-0 and had nothing to offer up front. Rooney, 200,000 a week did zip. VP came on and did even less. How many millions has S.A.F. spend? The midfield created zip, united in the final third of the pitch didn't know where to go.
Yes we need players and they will come but to hammer Poyet is just wrong.
gordongull
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10:54pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Ricky3
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10:55pm Tue 21 Aug 12
thetungsten
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10:57pm Tue 21 Aug 12
VegasSeagull wrote:He's not suggesting we need to spend billions on fees and wages.... Just get someone who wants to play football who has certain assets that we lack and be done with it. Man u has no relevance to this debate what so ever.
wole wrote:I guess if he is right and all those bemoaning the fact that we have not as yet spent our money on new players are also right, Sir Alex Feguson must be useless at his job.
Although HPR does talk a lot of nonsense and in most cases just to wind you lot up, in this statement he is 100% correct. Poyet has had the best part of 9 months to BUY a hold up striker and has failed to produce the man. It is a shame as most teams will get no change from our full backs but we will fail to get CMS involved without the hold up forward needed and until then i'm afraid to say Brighton WILL struggle this season.
United lost 1-0 and had nothing to offer up front. Rooney, 200,000 a week did zip. VP came on and did even less. How many millions has S.A.F. spend? The midfield created zip, united in the final third of the pitch didn't know where to go.
Yes we need players and they will come but to hammer Poyet is just wrong.
rolivan
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10:58pm Tue 21 Aug 12
thetungsten wrote:I think You are being a bit harsh if you think we only played for a point tonight, have a look at the Stats for both games I think we deserved at least 4.
rolivan wrote:Clearly the 3 signings are class and have made a difference. Would be happier to play for 3 points each game rather than 1 or a hull situation 0 . Our defence will not get us promoted I'm afraid :(
thetungsten wrote:Have the 3 new signings improved the squad I think the answer to that is a resounding yes, you obviously think differently.Gus is only after players that will improve us and as He keeps saying He has players in mind getting them is the difficult part.I am sure the Transfer market is only luke warm and will really hot up in the next few days.I would be more worried if I was Man U supporter after last night.
It really doesn't take a genius to work out what the problem is.... We lack a powerful midfielder and a physical hold up striker. Tonight was like watching the last 15 games of last season albeit with a far more solid defence.... Frustrating football. Nothing to offer in the final third!!! Absolutely nothing. Something radical needs to be sorted soon or we are in danger of being a bottom half team. We knew what we needed 8 months ago and am quite frankly disappointed that with 10 days to go in the transfer window we are where we are. What's the point on forking out on management / background staff to be premiership class behind the scenes when we can't do the same on the pitch. Frustrated, frustrated frustrated!!!
What some supporters don't seem to realise is that the Club has virtually rebranded itself and as we improve so will the amount of revenue from Sponsors.This is where a lot of the clubs get their revenue for players.
tonytowner1
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11:02pm Tue 21 Aug 12
kwaidam
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11:05pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Hove Actually
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11:14pm Tue 21 Aug 12
pauldanno
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11:24pm Tue 21 Aug 12
pablobrowno
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11:30pm Tue 21 Aug 12
gordongull wrote:Don't belittle Barnsley, they'll come and have a good go. They also have one player I feel we should have given a much bigger chance to, Mr C Davies! The boy can certainly shoot. He'd be a great stooge for Cms I have no doubt!
As I've said before, if you aren't panicking, you don't understand the situation.
Yes, certainly Cardiff and Hull are amongst the better sides in the Championship,- there are about 16 of them.
If we become cut adrift at an early stage from from the leading bunch, which is likely to consist of about 50% of teams in the division, we will find that enough of those sides have the quality and consistency to keep us out of contention.
Unlike the majority of games last season, the quality and speed in attack is creating chance after chance, all of which are being rejected by our strikeforce (and others).
Our season now depends on the acquisition of a forward who can take advantage of this increase in goal-scoring opportunities, preferably before our next match at Barnsley.
Losing that one isn't an option!
Sussex by the Sea
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11:34pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Far gull
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11:36pm Tue 21 Aug 12
SiWilki
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11:46pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Thoughts on likeliness / would you welcome it, is quite injury prone...
special brew
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11:50pm Tue 21 Aug 12
om/watch?v=EPEOHEl1V
MA
Dave in Hastings
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12:08am Wed 22 Aug 12
The chances will soon start going in the back of the net then we will be fine. All the moaners, whingers and trolls, get over yourselves. Albion are improving bit by bit. Rome wasn't built in a day.
We have a brilliant stadium, brilliant manager, brilliant chairman. It doesn't get much better.
Gazza by the sea
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12:30am Wed 22 Aug 12
Gazza by the sea
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12:34am Wed 22 Aug 12
ballantrrae
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12:39am Wed 22 Aug 12
paul the hill wrote:I agree with you about the striker. People in the area where I was sitting seemed to think we will be signing Piquionne on Wedesday. Nobody was in favour and the general view being he wouldn't add anything to the squad. He certainly wouldn't be the calibre of player Poyet has indicated he is looking for - Vokes would have been better.
Great turnout tonight. but we need a striker now is there any truth in Piquionne. Tony we need to buy Rhodes Trotter .
Get JFC back from his loan as cover for Vicente
Watching the game tonight I thought we played some excellent football in parts tonight but came away with the feeling that we lacked physical presence both up front and especially in midfield. We really do appear to need a midfield powerhouse type like Brian Horton or Jimmy Case.
270 competitive minutes without a goal so far this season is a little worrying. Hopefully on Saturday we will see the goals starting to go in.
Poyet, Burke and Co really need to get the recruiting moving again - only 10 days till the end of August.
Conelli98
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12:39am Wed 22 Aug 12
hannover seagull wrote:**** bus service!!! but quality 0-0 game and pies still fab even though the prices are up...dont mind paying as long as we get another striker to help CMS!
Great game
Great crowd(highest in the league tonight)
Great atmosphere
Come on boys lets start finding the net again
UTA.................
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championshipgull
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1:15am Wed 22 Aug 12
Neville
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1:32am Wed 22 Aug 12
JoeBlow
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1:57am Wed 22 Aug 12
thetungsten wrote:So they've either signed players Gus didn't want OR they offered them better terms than we could afford. Either way, you can't blame Gus.
JoeBlow wrote:Fair enough but it hasn't prevented the other 21 teams in the league securing new strikers!!!
thetungsten wrote:We may have known what we needed 8 months ago but clearly Gus Poyet has been holding out to get the very best striker he can. The better the striker, the more they can leverage the transfer window and play brinkmanship with the teams chasing them (the good ones always have multiple teams after them). Only time will tell if Poyet gets his man or has to settle for a lesser option on loan.
It really doesn't take a genius to work out what the problem is.... We lack a powerful midfielder and a physical hold up striker. Tonight was like watching the last 15 games of last season albeit with a far more solid defence.... Frustrating football. Nothing to offer in the final third!!! Absolutely nothing. Something radical needs to be sorted soon or we are in danger of being a bottom half team. We knew what we needed 8 months ago and am quite frankly disappointed that with 10 days to go in the transfer window we are where we are. What's the point on forking out on management / background staff to be premiership class behind the scenes when we can't do the same on the pitch. Frustrated, frustrated frustrated!!!
Hovite
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2:08am Wed 22 Aug 12
Neville wrote:So apart from the £93 million owed for building the Amex, where’s the financial problem?
I understood the budget had shown a slight increase this year despite this we still do't seem to have the adequate funds to purchase a decent striker. Vicente was always part of last years budget,Kuszack involved no transfer fee nor Bruno and we are only paying a small percentage of Bridges Chelsea salary.We have payment for Elphick and presumably Hall and JFC salary being supplemented by Oxford to some degree so where is the financial problem,does anybody have any ideas.
Hovite
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2:53am Wed 22 Aug 12
wole wrote:You're an idiot wole, the upside down mole, or hpr as you are otherwise known. What part of your hpr statement did you agree with 100% yourself.
Although HPR does talk a lot of nonsense and in most cases just to wind you lot up, in this statement he is 100% correct.
Poyet has had the best part of 9 months to BUY a hold up striker and has failed to produce the man.
It is a shame as most teams will get no change from our full backs but we will fail to get CMS involved without the hold up forward needed and until then i'm afraid to say Brighton WILL struggle this season.
I suggest that other posters read what this mole agrees with hpr 100%, and you will see there is no statement of any substance or worth.
Get back in your hole you woley mole.
Albion In Staffs
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3:19am Wed 22 Aug 12
Neville wrote:Who says we don't have money to buy a striker? That's clearly your own interpretation. Just because other clubs have signed front players, doesn't make them better than us. Most - if not all - of the players mentioned on here wouldn't improve our side one jot and I'd much rather we we waited and spent wisely than just spent.
I understood the budget had shown a slight increase this year despite this we still do't seem to have the adequate funds to purchase a decent striker. Vicente was always part of last years budget,Kuszack involved no transfer fee nor Bruno and we are only paying a small percentage of Bridges Chelsea salary.We have payment for Elphick and presumably Hall and JFC salary being supplemented by Oxford to some degree so where is the financial problem,does anybody have any ideas.
And when you say Vicente was part of last year's budget, I'm assuming you've forgotten about wages? Kuszack may have cost "nothing" but his wages have obviously been offset by money from the transfer pot, so to suggest we're getting players on the cheap is just daft. Let Gus do his job. We're doing ok..
wole
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6:40am Wed 22 Aug 12
Rhodes Seagull
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7:16am Wed 22 Aug 12
Maybe wrong but last season Reading got away to a terrible start but look where they are now, I think it just needs CMS to get that one goal for a bit of a boost for him then he will be finding the back of the net.
markymark03
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7:35am Wed 22 Aug 12
Also I think that Crofts engine was incredible. I think he'll score at least 15 by the end of the season.
I'm suprised Barnes hasn't made more of an impact so far. he was excellent against Chelsea in pre season - perhaps he is down hearted because the majority of our fans can't warm to him - or he is worried about an being pushed out the first team by a new signing. He is not the player to get the best out of CMS. He played to many balls close to the keeper when CMS was begging for them towards the corner flags so he could run on and keep hold of them.
A good solid defence doesn't score goals but its no good scoring two goals a game if you lose 4-2
fretlessbass
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7:44am Wed 22 Aug 12
10:55pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Stop panicking people just replace dicker and Barnes with decent players and we have a great chance of promotion. By the way what does dicker actually bring to the team?? Utter rubbish same as barnes.
- An utter rubbish post actually. Barnes was the club's top scorer last season and given the right service could get 20 plus goals this season. I agree that the midfield needs strengthening but Case/Wilson type players are not exactly thick on the ground.
Ricky3
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7:57am Wed 22 Aug 12
roast
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8:34am Wed 22 Aug 12
Hovite wrote:I agree 100% with this statement.
wole wrote: Although HPR does talk a lot of nonsense and in most cases just to wind you lot up, in this statement he is 100% correct. Poyet has had the best part of 9 months to BUY a hold up striker and has failed to produce the man. It is a shame as most teams will get no change from our full backs but we will fail to get CMS involved without the hold up forward needed and until then i'm afraid to say Brighton WILL struggle this season.You're an idiot wole, the upside down mole, or hpr as you are otherwise known. What part of your hpr statement did you agree with 100% yourself. I suggest that other posters read what this mole agrees with hpr 100%, and you will see there is no statement of any substance or worth. Get back in your hole you woley mole.
seagull31
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8:39am Wed 22 Aug 12
roast
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8:45am Wed 22 Aug 12
Alan G Skinner
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8:49am Wed 22 Aug 12
coolio73
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9:03am Wed 22 Aug 12
rolivan
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9:31am Wed 22 Aug 12
LACHANCE
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9:53am Wed 22 Aug 12
hubby
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10:09am Wed 22 Aug 12
rolivan wrote:AA year?
Andy Carroll might help us out for aa year.
Would that be his Alcoholics Anonymous year?
Seriously.This is a very good league full of quality teams and players.
Firstly,get enough points by Christmas to stay up.Then look at a low end playoff place.
I'm sure that Gus must have had a five year plan and not a two or three year plan.
I think that before 2015 if Gus Poyet is still in charge,BHA will be in the Premiership,with a Premiership squad,a Premiership ground and a Premiership manager.
Be patient!
tooncgull
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10:17am Wed 22 Aug 12
gordongull wrote:Losing that one isnt an option? Four games in? Good grief. Get a grip man. Its a marathon not a sprint. Reading were nowhere at Christmas last year... Yes, we havent scored in 4 competitive games (including last season), and havent won in 11, but often a promotion season starts slowly. Remember the awful start to 2000-01, when I think we had lost 3 out of 4?
As I've said before, if you aren't panicking, you don't understand the situation. Yes, certainly Cardiff and Hull are amongst the better sides in the Championship,- there are about 16 of them. If we become cut adrift at an early stage from from the leading bunch, which is likely to consist of about 50% of teams in the division, we will find that enough of those sides have the quality and consistency to keep us out of contention. Unlike the majority of games last season, the quality and speed in attack is creating chance after chance, all of which are being rejected by our strikeforce (and others). Our season now depends on the acquisition of a forward who can take advantage of this increase in goal-scoring opportunities, preferably before our next match at Barnsley. Losing that one isn't an option!
Plenty of time to panic later in the season. Lets not throw our arms in the air and get hysterical in August.
Id love to see a goal, mind you! However, Palace have seen plenty of goals so far this season havent they ;)
milehi6854
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10:29am Wed 22 Aug 12
suede27
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11:10am Wed 22 Aug 12
Gee Jay
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12:01pm Wed 22 Aug 12
Just get real, and leave it to the professionals.
Will Buckley to score on Saturday.
gordongull
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12:31pm Wed 22 Aug 12
tooncgull wrote:Unless you believe that an awful start to the season is a recipe for success, you can't rely on Reading's bad run as a basis for complacency. They signed Jason Roberts, in January, and the rest is history.
gordongull wrote:Losing that one isnt an option? Four games in? Good grief. Get a grip man. Its a marathon not a sprint. Reading were nowhere at Christmas last year... Yes, we havent scored in 4 competitive games (including last season), and havent won in 11, but often a promotion season starts slowly. Remember the awful start to 2000-01, when I think we had lost 3 out of 4?
As I've said before, if you aren't panicking, you don't understand the situation. Yes, certainly Cardiff and Hull are amongst the better sides in the Championship,- there are about 16 of them. If we become cut adrift at an early stage from from the leading bunch, which is likely to consist of about 50% of teams in the division, we will find that enough of those sides have the quality and consistency to keep us out of contention. Unlike the majority of games last season, the quality and speed in attack is creating chance after chance, all of which are being rejected by our strikeforce (and others). Our season now depends on the acquisition of a forward who can take advantage of this increase in goal-scoring opportunities, preferably before our next match at Barnsley. Losing that one isn't an option!
Plenty of time to panic later in the season. Lets not throw our arms in the air and get hysterical in August.
Id love to see a goal, mind you! However, Palace have seen plenty of goals so far this season havent they ;)
Gus's views aren't far from those expressed in my comment. He hasn't identified Barnsley as a must win game, but clearly accepts that we are currently not in a position to compete at the top end of the table.
I don't believe that everything depends on a top six place, but remaining in contention will make a massive difference to our season.
Otherwise minimum requirement is finish above Palace and two others :)
gordongull
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12:36pm Wed 22 Aug 12
Gee Jay wrote:What do you suggest we talk about, - the economy or the weather?
Most of you lot really think you could do better, on the pitch or managing the team or even the club and the finances
Just get real, and leave it to the professionals.
Will Buckley to score on Saturday.
Billyboyarnold
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12:59pm Wed 22 Aug 12
suede27 wrote:Wow! that is a bit harsh, when we creat chances and miss them that is not Gus's fault, would it be out of the question and get either Glenn or Bobby back. brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.
Why oh why does Poyet insist on playing just one up front. It's the most obvious problem but he just doesn't see it. The bloke just hasn't a clue. Sorry Gus, time to move on.
Hovite
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1:27pm Wed 22 Aug 12
ballantrrae
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4:46pm Wed 22 Aug 12
Neville wrote:Good questions Neville although I think we need to allow for the fact that Bridge's salary accounts for something over £500,000 and Crofts fee must be somewhere around the £600,000 - £700,000 mark.
I understood the budget had shown a slight increase this year despite this we still do't seem to have the adequate funds to purchase a decent striker. Vicente was always part of last years budget,Kuszack involved no transfer fee nor Bruno and we are only paying a small percentage of Bridges Chelsea salary.We have payment for Elphick and presumably Hall and JFC salary being supplemented by Oxford to some degree so where is the financial problem,does anybody have any ideas.
Since we spent £4.5 million last year and allowing for the reported (Bournemouth Echo) £200,000 fee we received for Elphick there should be about £3.5 million available. Even being really conservative there ought to be around £3 million - say £2.5 million at the very least even if we have paid quite hefty 'signing on' fees for Bruno and Kuszczak.
So I too wonder what is up. I can only surmise that the players Poyet wants to sign are having fees quoted in excess of that. Then again Poyet might be trying to acquire 3 players (striker, Midfielder and CB) with the say £3million available.
Interesting times and pertinent question Neville.
No goals in 3 games does call for action and not words.
SicklySeagull
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4:55pm Wed 22 Aug 12
If Vicente is now fit as Gus claims why was he only brought on very late in the game.
Gee Jay
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6:26pm Wed 22 Aug 12
Still Will Buckley to score on Saturday
Captain Haddock
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10:49am Thu 23 Aug 12
pauldanno wrote:Sense at last!
Regarding other clubs signing strikers, I havent seen a name involved in those transfers which would improve what we already have.( eg Baldock, Fuller, not great pedigrees as goalscorers ?) Brighton are a little more selective, and we, as supporters, should remain patient and let the Management do the their stuff. There is no rush to get to the Prem, it is enough to improve on last season, and I'd be suprised, if by the end of the season we don't finish higher. When the right player is available at the right price we will be in with a good chance of making the signing.
Captain Haddock
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12:38pm Thu 23 Aug 12
Rhodes Seagull wrote:Yup, and also Reading didn't sign their key target man, Jason Roberts, til Jan.
Only 2 games played and we are on our way to the 1st div according to many above. Listening to the game it sounded that we where the better team after the first 15 or 20 minutes.
Maybe wrong but last season Reading got away to a terrible start but look where they are now, I think it just needs CMS to get that one goal for a bit of a boost for him then he will be finding the back of the net.
Their fortunes improved from the winter onwards. Either way, it's VERY early days and we're playing very we. I'm happy because I can see we are already improving on last year.
Captain Haddock
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12:44pm Thu 23 Aug 12
Ricky3 wrote:The chance you describe Barnes taking too long over was almost identical to Balotelli's from the world cup. The only differene being Balotelli's REALLY DID dither.
What games do you people watch Barnes is terrible and isn't good enough to get us to the premiership. Take last night for instants he missed a couple of decent chances gets put through on goal takes about 10 minutes to compose himself and by the time he does two defenders have caught him and he takes a dive for a penalty. An all too familiar story with Barnes. Obviously most must agree with me because everyone is desperate for another striker
So should Man City get rid of him? After all, he's less of a pro than Barnes too.
Mancini doesn't seem to think so, expressing irritation this week at the suggestion of a £40m sale.
Captain Haddock
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12:52pm Thu 23 Aug 12
suede27 wrote:For you, yes!
Why oh why does Poyet insist on playing just one up front. It's the most obvious problem but he just doesn't see it. The bloke just hasn't a clue. Sorry Gus, time to move on.
Anyone who thinks 4-4-2 is guaranteed to work week in week out against 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 formations at this high level is the clueless one.
Captain Haddock
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12:58pm Thu 23 Aug 12
Captain Haddock wrote:Of course I meant the Euros.
Ricky3 wrote:The chance you describe Barnes taking too long over was almost identical to Balotelli's from the world cup. The only differene being Balotelli's REALLY DID dither.
What games do you people watch Barnes is terrible and isn't good enough to get us to the premiership. Take last night for instants he missed a couple of decent chances gets put through on goal takes about 10 minutes to compose himself and by the time he does two defenders have caught him and he takes a dive for a penalty. An all too familiar story with Barnes. Obviously most must agree with me because everyone is desperate for another striker
So should Man City get rid of him? After all, he's less of a pro than Barnes too.
Mancini doesn't seem to think so, expressing irritation this week at the suggestion of a £40m sale.
john newman says...
9:59pm Tue 21 Aug 12