Poyet needs a striker

Gus Poyet watches the action last night Gus Poyet watches the action last night

GUS Poyet fears he is running out of time to land a striker to turn Albion into Championship promotion contenders.

The Seagulls have gone three games without a goal this season following last night’s 0-0 draw against Cardiff at The Amex.

The transfer window shuts at 11pm a week on Friday and Poyet is no closer to ending his long search for a target man.

He said: “I need a striker. I’ve been asking for the person that is going to put the ball in the net when you have got the chance, for the presence in the box.

“We are not close enough to getting one. We are going to try to make sure we keep performing but the quality, the expensive part, the one that is going to make a difference, is missing and it’s taking too long.

“It’s frustrating. I feel for the players as well, the effort they are putting in, the commitment, the way they are playing and then we are missing that part.

“Macca (Craig Mackail-Smith) is the best he has been for three or four months. We are seeing the best of Nooney (Craig Noone) and we are still not scoring. We need to be positive but at the same time careful, because if it takes too long maybe it’s too late.”

Poyet dismissed reports that Albion have agreed a fee with West Ham for veteran French centre forward Frederic Piquionne.

“We cannot compete,” he said. “I keep seeing clubs buying strikers and bringing players from the Premiership and paying fortunes. We are at another level, that is clear. We will try to do our best but quality is expensive.”

Poyet has ruled out a top six finish unless Albion are successful in their quest to sign a striker, either permanently or on loan.

“We’ve been trying,” he added. “The loans we want to bring are Premiership loans. They are too expensive. I’ve got a maxuimum in there that is difficult. I have been in touch with many clubs but I accept the situation and the budget we’ve got. I’m not crying about it, I’m saying the truth.”

Comments(122)

franckiep en france says...
9:28am Wed 22 Aug 12

Sad news.

Gibseagull says...
9:29am Wed 22 Aug 12

Might it not make more economic and practical sense to be looking for a striker from one of the lower leagues instead of some ageing, worn out and overpaid premiership hack?

fratsomrover says...
9:39am Wed 22 Aug 12

Shola Ameobi for me. Cant get in Newcastle's side so sure he would love to play regularly. Whatever the price ( or loan) if he gets us promotion, it has to be worth it

Alan G Skinner says...
9:42am Wed 22 Aug 12

You reap what you sow and with all these Championship sides extending themselves to the brink, to bring in players there will be more Pompy situations, it is inevitable. Slowley and steadily is the way forward, we are building on and off the field, we are making progress. I'm sure we will get the player Gus wants, until then we have plenty of gifted midfielders, who can take the burden off the Strikers and i'm sure we will score and win on Saturday.

fairweathersupporter says...
9:51am Wed 22 Aug 12

Poyet needs a striker:

We know. We've known for some time. Poyet's known for some time.

To be fair, so do the agents and clubs that we have approached. Perhaps our mythical wealth and splashing out on CMS last season has led to a situation where we are effectively being held to ransom? But surely if the budget is the same as last season (less wages and agent fees so far); there must be around 2 million or so left? And surely if the club wants to move forward, the additional funds were accounted for (taking into account the repayments etc on our beautiful stadium)? So i remain hopeful. I remain convinced that Mr Bloom and Mr Poyet are united on this issue. I remain convinced that the stated intent of top six was no a throw away close season comment, by both manager and board...

Jonathan Mouette says...
9:52am Wed 22 Aug 12

This probably puts the final nail in the coffin of the Piquionne rumour. He is supposed to be on a free so the budget shouldn't have been a problem. Difficult to believe that he commanded a big salary either as he was a below average championship player and nothing more. I will not lose any sleep over that one. I honestly believe the answer lies in the Premier League among the development squads. I am disappointed to see Chelsea have shipped out one or two of their youngsters (notably Lukaku) but there must be others desperate for regular games in the championship. If Toby cannot do the required job maybe there's a case for bringing back Chris Wood and really working on his game. His performance at B'ham last season was impressive enough with 9 from 23 and he has the attributes required - plus he has been released from WBA now that they have Lukaku. Just a thought. Whatever happens the fingers remain firmly crossed.

tooncgull says...
9:54am Wed 22 Aug 12

Very entertaining 0-0 draw - could have been 3-3 just as easily. But Kusczak was outstanding at one end, and sadly, as this article highlights, we are creating chances but not scoring them.
To be honest, I thought we played very well against one of the favourites to go up tis season.

SMF20 says...
9:58am Wed 22 Aug 12

Well said GP, you echo what 99% of us have been saying on here for some time now. We are a fantastic team, we have strengthened, we just need that final piece to complete the puzzle and be a genuine contender. I trust you will get your man but like you i really do hope that it happens before we are 12/15 points behind the pace setters.

Dr Baldhead says...
10:01am Wed 22 Aug 12

I keep reading well intentioned posts such as "I'm sure we'll score in the next game" and "Things will come good for CMS". Perhaps we will and perhaps he will, but the facts are we haven't won since that night in March when we completely owned Derby and Vicente and Lua Lua had such storming games.

You can hear the desperation in what Gus says - he has made some great signings in the other areas and the team looked a couple of players short of being op notch last night. With Vicente, Lua Lua and Will Buck able to come into the starting 11 we are well set BUT only if we get the target man to win flicks, shield and lay off the ball and provide presence in the oppo penalty area.

We have been linked with some wierd and wonderful strikers this summer and it looks like going to the deadline wire before we get one. I have to say though that it is a signing that may determine what we achieve this year - a decent forward added to the mix could take us into the top six. Without one, we fall short of the best teams in the division.

BobGear says...
10:02am Wed 22 Aug 12

fratsomrover wrote:
Shola Ameobi for me. Cant get in Newcastle's side so sure he would love to play regularly. Whatever the price ( or loan) if he gets us promotion, it has to be worth it
Read Gus's comments again, and then ask yourself whether yours was a sensible comment.

“We cannot compete,” he said. “I keep seeing clubs buying strikers and bringing players from the Premiership and paying fortunes. We are at another level, that is clear. We will try to do our best but quality is expensive.”

Too many Harveys says...
10:15am Wed 22 Aug 12

Quality is expensive and agents are undoubtedly asking for inflated sums, but we have spent heavily on getting a backroom team that is supposed to be among the best around for negotiating deals and Gus' style of play and rising star is also a pull. Add to this a fantastic stadium, 25,000 crowds, and living in our vibrant city. Then add to this the difference in spend so far to last year (assuming the budget is at least as good) and the I estimate £100K a week additional revenue from the extra seats and I must admit I'm struggling a little to understand why we can't get someone decent in. Bridge,Bruno and Kuszczak were sold the package and all are premiership quality. Why are we suddenly unable to compete when it comes to strikers? We are so close and whilst there are absolutely no prizes for bankrupting the club, this is one player we need here and after the amazing progress on and off the pitch the phrase "spoil the ship for a h'porth of tar" comes to mind.

Mr Know It All says...
10:16am Wed 22 Aug 12

I have a hunch, I hope I'm proved wrong as I want to see us winning and get promoted.

Gus has been trying to get a striker for a while now and each update he says he doesn't have the funds to buy top players. My hunch is that unless he gets the funds, he will leave us because he wants to achieve. Especially if results continue as they are.

I sincerely hope I'm proved wrong but something isn't right...

Claude Back says...
10:18am Wed 22 Aug 12

Gibseagull wrote:
Might it not make more economic and practical sense to be looking for a striker from one of the lower leagues instead of some ageing, worn out and overpaid premiership hack?
Exactly.
However, what woud be the point of Gus bringing in another striker just to move CMS out to the wing like he did last night and left Vicente the most forward player? (Vicente is not effective there. He needs to run from deeper.) Gus is obsessed with the 4-5-1 set-up and never plays two strikers up front together. We won't get anywhere in this Division until he allows the strikers to work together in the middle.. He wants us to be like Barcelona but they have Messi up frot and we never will.....unless he is aged 45 or more !

Claude Back says...
10:19am Wed 22 Aug 12

'Would not 'woud'.

Claude Back says...
10:22am Wed 22 Aug 12

Also 'front' not 'frot'. Is it me or is the box getting harder in which to type correctly?

cgull5 says...
10:27am Wed 22 Aug 12

Ricardo Fuller has joined Charlton on a free transfer... surely he would have been a good bet for us and I can't imagine them having a bigger wage budget than ours?

football's coming home says...
10:31am Wed 22 Aug 12

Maybe this sort of creative deal is what we need to be looking at, obviously the figures will need to be lower :-)

Adebayor's estimated £175,000-a-week wages were a problem,for Tottenham unwilling to break their wage structure to secure a permanent deal.

That seems to have been overcome by Manchester City working out a sizeable severance package to move Adebayor off their books. The BBC report that in effect City will subsidise the forward's wages, paying him the difference between his wages at Tottenham (an estimated £80,000 a week) and what he would have earned staying at the Etihad Stadium.

Good luck on getting your man Gus.

Willie, Willie Irvine says...
10:53am Wed 22 Aug 12

Why not give Toby a run out for a while, playing alongside CMS or Barnes? Anything within the club's control has to be worth a try in the circumstances. I'm not sure about buying in desperation. I recall Gus being pretty desperate when he got Sandaza in - then didn'y fancy him once here despite quite a good scoring rate from little playing time. It does seem cruel that Gus let go the one effective striker that he inherited and has since struggled to bring in the sort of replacement to support that decision. So saying we 'only' need a striker and decent midfielder to turn us into champions seems a tad optimistic. But at least we arn't haemorrhaging goals!

Too many Harveys says...
11:02am Wed 22 Aug 12

BobGear wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Shola Ameobi for me. Cant get in Newcastle's side so sure he would love to play regularly. Whatever the price ( or loan) if he gets us promotion, it has to be worth it
Read Gus's comments again, and then ask yourself whether yours was a sensible comment.

“We cannot compete,” he said. “I keep seeing clubs buying strikers and bringing players from the Premiership and paying fortunes. We are at another level, that is clear. We will try to do our best but quality is expensive.”
Sorry Bob but I think Fratsomrover's comment was perfectly sensible. Amoebi is the wrong side of thirty, was a fringe player at Newcastle last year and was an unused sub at the weekend. Exactly the type of situation that with the right sales job from the club should be able to persuade him to spend a year playing regular first team football by the sea pushing for promotion in front of a packed house every week. Players of this type are exactly what I believe we should be in the market for given our current situation. Talk of Bobby Z, Michael Owen, Berbatov etc is ridiculous but Ameobi isn't in that category.

Albion In Staffs says...
11:06am Wed 22 Aug 12

Act in haste repent at leisure…
We don't want another situation where someone is brought in for the sake of it (you know who they are) who isn't up to the task.
If we can't afford someone who is actually better than Barnes & Toby, then there's no point.Far better to hold on to the dough and wait.

We'll all be moaning if we end up spending upwards of a million quid on Billy Paynter ll. And if the budget doesn't stretch, then so be it. I think they're running the club astutely and that should not change.

cvs says...
11:16am Wed 22 Aug 12

This is not quite the whole story. When the prem. clubs submit their final official squads for the season at the end of this month then all sorts of players will be free and looking for a job. Gus knows he will have a chance of picking up a good quality forward on loan

batray says...
11:21am Wed 22 Aug 12

This is getting stupid. Need to get in natural goal scorers - now. Think of people like Binney, Posket,Ward, Byrne, Forster, Murray Etc Etc - we have always had people who know where the goal is. Barnes is really off the boil - had three good chances in first half but did not look like scoring. Vicente came on very late but played up front and was totally wasted. He was largely ineffective - with exception of one great run. CMS is working his ar*se off but dose not look like scoring in three month of Sundays. I think Gus for all his knowledge and experience dose not know strikers or how to use them. Get John Byrne or Nicky Forster in as a striker consultant coach.

rolivan says...
11:24am Wed 22 Aug 12

cvs wrote:
This is not quite the whole story. When the prem. clubs submit their final official squads for the season at the end of this month then all sorts of players will be free and looking for a job. Gus knows he will have a chance of picking up a good quality forward on loan
Andy Carroll might be the key, wherever he goes it might free up somebody just hope it's not another Championship club.

Geagulls says...
11:31am Wed 22 Aug 12

I may just be an eternal optimist (strangely,after 55 years of watching Albion!),but I get a sense of deja vu about the start to this season. Just two years ago, we started in similar fashion, with a shocking defeat to a lower-ranked team in the Coca-Clown Cup (2 nil at Northampton), then lost unluckily 1 nil away against one of the favourites for promotion(Sheff Weds). The Argus headline on August 23rd, 2010 was : "Albion Lack A Cutting Edge". I know that for sure, because it is in "Seagulls Champions!", a souvenir of that great season. Probably too much to expect a repeat of that season... but let's be positive, eh ?

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...
11:37am Wed 22 Aug 12

The answer is simple. GET BOBBY BACK!!!

andydownsouth says...
11:43am Wed 22 Aug 12

I was quite suprised when I saw Ricardo Fuller had signed for Charlton. I reckon he has a few more years left in him. Poweful,direct and no litte skill either He would have done the job.

Even as a die hard fan I am starting to worry a little.

Alan G Skinner says...
11:55am Wed 22 Aug 12

andydownsouth wrote:
I was quite suprised when I saw Ricardo Fuller had signed for Charlton. I reckon he has a few more years left in him. Poweful,direct and no litte skill either He would have done the job.

Even as a die hard fan I am starting to worry a little.
Not good enough. Would be a waste of finite resources. We must be patient and the right player will come along.

mickygullhove says...
12:01pm Wed 22 Aug 12

i cant believe poyat, he cant afford a goal scorer, what about Sam Baldock west ham, just look at his scoring record average goal every other game not many of the names bandied about on this site can beat that. So what happens, in todays mirror hes signed for bristol city for 1million. maybe we could have afforded him. Remember 3 games no goals. how much money has poyat spent?.

SMF20 says...
12:01pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Dr Baldhead wrote:
I keep reading well intentioned posts such as "I'm sure we'll score in the next game" and "Things will come good for CMS". Perhaps we will and perhaps he will, but the facts are we haven't won since that night in March when we completely owned Derby and Vicente and Lua Lua had such storming games. You can hear the desperation in what Gus says - he has made some great signings in the other areas and the team looked a couple of players short of being op notch last night. With Vicente, Lua Lua and Will Buck able to come into the starting 11 we are well set BUT only if we get the target man to win flicks, shield and lay off the ball and provide presence in the oppo penalty area. We have been linked with some wierd and wonderful strikers this summer and it looks like going to the deadline wire before we get one. I have to say though that it is a signing that may determine what we achieve this year - a decent forward added to the mix could take us into the top six. Without one, we fall short of the best teams in the division.
ditto

ballantrrae says...
12:04pm Wed 22 Aug 12

fairweathersupporter wrote:
Poyet needs a striker:

We know. We've known for some time. Poyet's known for some time.

To be fair, so do the agents and clubs that we have approached. Perhaps our mythical wealth and splashing out on CMS last season has led to a situation where we are effectively being held to ransom? But surely if the budget is the same as last season (less wages and agent fees so far); there must be around 2 million or so left? And surely if the club wants to move forward, the additional funds were accounted for (taking into account the repayments etc on our beautiful stadium)? So i remain hopeful. I remain convinced that Mr Bloom and Mr Poyet are united on this issue. I remain convinced that the stated intent of top six was no a throw away close season comment, by both manager and board...
Good post.
Like others I find it frustrating that we are finding it so difficult to obtain a striker especially since we seem to be looking in Europe as well as here.
Perhaps we should try and get two strikers in ie hedge our bets.
One from a lower division as has been suggested in another posting on this thread and perhaps a youngster on loan from a Premiership club. Hopefully at least one would provide the solution we need.
I also still feel we need another midfielder, someone with physical presence. I think such a player might just help the side to score goals.

SMF20 says...
12:08pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Tony the tiger eastbourne wrote:
The answer is simple. GET BOBBY BACK!!!
Or GLENN. Im like a scratched record but we should never have let him go. He'd be cheap too

GosportGull says...
12:17pm Wed 22 Aug 12

well why not use Toby or even Barker ...we have to do something or we will end up getting left behind...not saying Cms isnt good enough ..he just needs help.. dont be afraid of using what we have if we cant afford better ...dont think Barnsey will score at mo...lack of confidence .... just need somebody to finish chances .... GG

tug509 says...
12:34pm Wed 22 Aug 12

SMF20 wrote:
Tony the tiger eastbourne wrote:
The answer is simple. GET BOBBY BACK!!!
Or GLENN. Im like a scratched record but we should never have let him go. He'd be cheap too
I`m not convinced our management would want to pay a fee for a player who should have taken the deal that he was offered,but instead chose to leave.I know GM has his supporters,and he probably could do a good job,but all feelings aside if our offer was`nt good enough before why would it be now?...I`ve heard plenty say we should have done more to keep him,(and like a scratched record) i have to point out that he rejected the best offer ever made to a Brighton player,i can`t see what more we could have done.UTA

Too many Harveys says...
12:42pm Wed 22 Aug 12

One comment that hasn't been made is that Hoskins will certainly add some firepower to the squad once he gets fit.

thewhitehawker says...
12:43pm Wed 22 Aug 12

We have strikers , we are just waiting for them to strike . Dont waste money on a premiership money grabber , have faith with ours. If we dont have the money we will just have to wait a bit , a deal will come

tug509 says...
12:45pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Too many Harveys wrote:
One comment that hasn't been made is that Hoskins will certainly add some firepower to the squad once he gets fit.
Do you know how far away from being fully fit he is? Would hope he gets a fair crack of the whip!

dave from bexill says...
12:48pm Wed 22 Aug 12

andydownsouth wrote:
I was quite suprised when I saw Ricardo Fuller had signed for Charlton. I reckon he has a few more years left in him. Poweful,direct and no litte skill either He would have done the job.

Even as a die hard fan I am starting to worry a little.
Agree. A Gus type of player, I'd have thought. Strong, good in the box and technically gifted, although probably well past his best now. Can only think he wanted too much in wages.

Billyboyarnold says...
12:49pm Wed 22 Aug 12

All and I mean ALL, the 92 Chairman should get together and agree NOT to do a deal with any AGENT, all Players have to go through the PFA and be represented by them at all negotiations, just like the old days, when sometimes they took their Dad's along to talk on their behalf. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull. PS. Barnsley won't be bringing many down on Saturday. White S*ite will be on my train going to Peterborough. Seagulls.

Rhodes Seagull says...
12:50pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Speculate to accumulate. If we can spend over one hundred million on a stadium there must be money for the player/s that Gus wants if not then we have thrown away a lot of money. If you want top flight football you have got to pay for it and if the chairman is not prepared to invest in players of quality, in this case a forward, then we will always be also rans and that is not what the stadium was built for was it and not what the supporters of the want.

tug509 says...
12:52pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Billyboyarnold wrote:
All and I mean ALL, the 92 Chairman should get together and agree NOT to do a deal with any AGENT, all Players have to go through the PFA and be represented by them at all negotiations, just like the old days, when sometimes they took their Dad's along to talk on their behalf. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull. PS. Barnsley won't be bringing many down on Saturday. White S*ite will be on my train going to Peterborough. Seagulls.
Oh what a wonderful dream.It`s like the old joke,what do you call one hundred agents at the bottom of the sea.....a good start!

pte says...
12:53pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I'd say its only 2 games in don't panic but if Gus is panicking then I'm panicking. We have a 4m striker who can't score!

SMF20 says...
1:08pm Wed 22 Aug 12

pte wrote:
I'd say its only 2 games in don't panic but if Gus is panicking then I'm panicking. We have a 4m striker who can't score!
Have faith my friend, he will come good with just a bit of help from the new boy Gus is trying to add.

Camicus says...
1:12pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Its all very well spending other peoples money for them. But if we cant afford the wages we cant afford the wages. The peterborough chairman is on record saying that theres a world finacial crisis everywhere but in players wages. When the window is about to shut and they have no clubs to extort the agents and players will have to come to heel or not play simples.

dave from bexill says...
1:23pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Just read Andy Naylors match report in the Argus an thought it pretty accurate, although I thought El-Abd and Liam Bridcutt were worth 8's last night. Matter of opinion I guess.
With regards to another striker, it's very frustrating not getting the right one in so far, but I'm suprised how many on here don't seem to accept the financial situation as Gus explains it.He's an honest guy and spot on I'm sure in respect of what the club can afford and who's available within the financial model and would improve the team.
I thought CMS was excellent last night(although he should have taken one gilt edged chance) Easy to see his frustration sometimes and I don't think the team plays to his strenghs. I noticed him remonstrating at Ashley Barnes on one occasion for hitting a long pass at him rather than into space for him to run onto.Also I was a bit confused when Vicente came on in the striking role with CMS pushed outwide and on occasion into a wingback role
On chances I thought a draw was about right, although as the home team you expect to push on and get one.
Saturday will be a different type of game altogether and Brighton will need to score (and hopefully win)
Didn't the stadium look just brilliant

Conelli98 says...
1:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Maybe coincidence and have it on a the say so of a very prominent figure of the Brighton area estates fraternity, that a certain Emile Heskey has just purchased a house in Ovingdean!

rolivan says...
1:31pm Wed 22 Aug 12

It has taken 44 comments before somebody mentioned the new look at the Stadium.24,500 Albion Fans together when did that last happen Millenium Stadium Cardiff?

fretlessbass says...
1:34pm Wed 22 Aug 12

SMF20 says...
1:08pm Wed 22 Aug 12


pte wrote:
I'd say its only 2 games in don't panic but if Gus is panicking then I'm panicking. We have a 4m striker who can't score!
Have faith my friend, he will come good with just a bit of help from the new boy Gus is trying to add.”

- No - I don't think so. He's a real tryer but I just don't think he's up to scoring regularly in the championship. I'm fairly certain he won't score any more this season than he did last season. I really hope I'm wrong but Poyet's judgement of strikers doesn't seem great given the £500,000 he wasted on Hoskins.

rolivan says...
1:48pm Wed 22 Aug 12

fretlessbass wrote:
SMF20 says...
1:08pm Wed 22 Aug 12


pte wrote:
I'd say its only 2 games in don't panic but if Gus is panicking then I'm panicking. We have a 4m striker who can't score!
Have faith my friend, he will come good with just a bit of help from the new boy Gus is trying to add.”

- No - I don't think so. He's a real tryer but I just don't think he's up to scoring regularly in the championship. I'm fairly certain he won't score any more this season than he did last season. I really hope I'm wrong but Poyet's judgement of strikers doesn't seem great given the £500,000 he wasted on Hoskins.
Most players in the Championship have the Ability a lot of them lack the Mental Ability, speed of thought, brain to foot,

roast says...
1:49pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Don't know if you heard but we won World War II.

Dave in Hastings says...
1:51pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Act in haste repent at leisure…
We don't want another situation where someone is brought in for the sake of it (you know who they are) who isn't up to the task.
If we can't afford someone who is actually better than Barnes & Toby, then there's no point.Far better to hold on to the dough and wait.

We'll all be moaning if we end up spending upwards of a million quid on Billy Paynter ll. And if the budget doesn't stretch, then so be it. I think they're running the club astutely and that should not change.
Thank goodness for a sensible post!

gordongull says...
1:56pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Warning - scratched record.

MURRAY

fairweathersupporter says...
2:00pm Wed 22 Aug 12

dave from bexill wrote:
Just read Andy Naylors match report in the Argus an thought it pretty accurate, although I thought El-Abd and Liam Bridcutt were worth 8's last night. Matter of opinion I guess. With regards to another striker, it's very frustrating not getting the right one in so far, but I'm suprised how many on here don't seem to accept the financial situation as Gus explains it.He's an honest guy and spot on I'm sure in respect of what the club can afford and who's available within the financial model and would improve the team. I thought CMS was excellent last night(although he should have taken one gilt edged chance) Easy to see his frustration sometimes and I don't think the team plays to his strenghs. I noticed him remonstrating at Ashley Barnes on one occasion for hitting a long pass at him rather than into space for him to run onto.Also I was a bit confused when Vicente came on in the striking role with CMS pushed outwide and on occasion into a wingback role On chances I thought a draw was about right, although as the home team you expect to push on and get one. Saturday will be a different type of game altogether and Brighton will need to score (and hopefully win) Didn't the stadium look just brilliant
Most but not all...

Most but not all (can't afford Zamora or several others mentioned) accept the limtations of the budget and the seemigly good housekeeping policy adopted by Tony and co. The budget has been quoted by Gus as being the same if not a little more than last year. Most but not all have worked out this is around the 4 million mark (give or take 500K). And have therefore based thier frustrations on the apparently available strikers within this budget range (circa 2million) being seemingly out of reach.
Most and hopefully all, would however, have been encouraged by a very good display last night. Thought Bridge (and the new signings in general) was fantastic, CMS looked good and Noone was back to his best after being dreadful agianst Swindon (and the latter half of last season). Barnes (strangely?) anonymous and my long running doubts in the abilty of Dicker were enforced, if not confirmed.
Stadium fantastic. Maybe we're all just a little bit spoilt now...

Dave in Hastings says...
2:03pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Geagulls wrote:
I may just be an eternal optimist (strangely,after 55 years of watching Albion!),but I get a sense of deja vu about the start to this season. Just two years ago, we started in similar fashion, with a shocking defeat to a lower-ranked team in the Coca-Clown Cup (2 nil at Northampton), then lost unluckily 1 nil away against one of the favourites for promotion(Sheff Weds). The Argus headline on August 23rd, 2010 was : "Albion Lack A Cutting Edge". I know that for sure, because it is in "Seagulls Champions!", a souvenir of that great season. Probably too much to expect a repeat of that season... but let's be positive, eh ?
Great post. everyone getting wound up at this stage of the season is ridiculous. I could understand it if the Albion were playing sh**, but by all accounts in the two league matches so far we have been the better team and made plenty of chances. Yes of course we could do with another striker, but we are stronger than last season and making progress.

keep the faith people.

RedKen1 says...
2:16pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Did anyone else notice that Hoskins (along with Vincelot & Sparrow) weren't even listed as squad members on the back of the programme. Clearly Gus is not going to give Hoskins a chance.

the herbster says...
2:35pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Did any one see Gus at the final whistle last night he clenched both fists as tight as he could, arched himself backwards as phyiscally possible and was screaming at the top of his voice in sheer frustration.I think he feels it more than any one of us on this forum.No one should ever question his passion for Brighton & Hove Albion F.C

fretlessbass says...
2:43pm Wed 22 Aug 12

gordongull says...
1:56pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Warning - scratched record.

MURRAY”

- Give it up mate - it ain't gonna happen.

VegasSeagull says...
2:44pm Wed 22 Aug 12

The club finances, if run correctly, are based on income V expenditures. Each area of financial activity within the club has a budget, medical, ground staff, security ect ect. Gus, like all the other heads of departments has a fixed budget to work to.

I don't think that Gus has a problem with his budget, this is not a Gus V board situation, the demands of the potential new players are what cause GP to be frustrated.

Think about how low our income was when we were playing at Withdene, gate revenues low, tv revenues almost non existent and sponsorship money at a value fitting to our situation at that time. Brighton came through those years by staying to fixed budgets, we survived.

The principles that ensured our survival through the dark years are the very principles we must keep faith with today. Every deal we sign will affect future deals, if we pay X to this player then be assured we will have to pay the same to others that might come in or those renewing their contracts with us.

If we don't get a new striker, MF or CB before the window closes so be it. If we end up 10th again so be it. The financial future of the club is paramount, we must never run the risk of becoming Portsmouth.

fretlessbass says...
2:48pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Conelli98 says...
1:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Maybe coincidence and have it on a the say so of a very prominent figure of the Brighton area estates fraternity, that a certain Emile Heskey has just purchased a house in Ovingdean

- Yeah right ! An estate agent would never tell a lie would he ?!

Hovite says...
2:53pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I am pleased that we are playing much better direct footaball than last season. Win, lose or draw I don't care at this stage. I just want them to carry on as they are and things will happen.

If all the players started panicking like some on here, we will never progress or improve. Anyone would have thought we lost last night, but it was an impressive goaless draw. Cardiff were in the cup final and were serious promotion contenders.

What would it be like on here if we had actually lost?

Come on guys chill out and enjoy the football and take it for what it is.

tug509 says...
2:54pm Wed 22 Aug 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
The club finances, if run correctly, are based on income V expenditures. Each area of financial activity within the club has a budget, medical, ground staff, security ect ect. Gus, like all the other heads of departments has a fixed budget to work to.

I don't think that Gus has a problem with his budget, this is not a Gus V board situation, the demands of the potential new players are what cause GP to be frustrated.

Think about how low our income was when we were playing at Withdene, gate revenues low, tv revenues almost non existent and sponsorship money at a value fitting to our situation at that time. Brighton came through those years by staying to fixed budgets, we survived.

The principles that ensured our survival through the dark years are the very principles we must keep faith with today. Every deal we sign will affect future deals, if we pay X to this player then be assured we will have to pay the same to others that might come in or those renewing their contracts with us.

If we don't get a new striker, MF or CB before the window closes so be it. If we end up 10th again so be it. The financial future of the club is paramount, we must never run the risk of becoming Portsmouth.
Wise words indeed.Dick Knight was always a very astute businessman and Mr Bloom is obviously cut from the same cloth.Which is why we can all sleep peaceful in the knowledge we will have a club tomorrow.Re an earlier post ,if the Heskey thing is real,we could worse.UTA

Gibseagull says...
3:00pm Wed 22 Aug 12

RedKen1 wrote:
Did anyone else notice that Hoskins (along with Vincelot & Sparrow) weren't even listed as squad members on the back of the programme. Clearly Gus is not going to give Hoskins a chance.
I would dearly love to see Hoskins given a decent run in the team but since he arrived he's been very injury prone and I suspect there's still some bad blood between him and Gus re whatever happened last season. But even if he does come good when he's fit again and even if he does patch it up with Gus we'll still need that tall, powerful, skillful goal scoring centre forward as well - i guess we'll shopping be in the end of season sales as the transfer window closes and wage demands from agents and players get more realistic.

Gibseagull says...
3:01pm Wed 22 Aug 12

sorry - should read "...be shopping in" -before the grammar police get me!!

pte says...
3:14pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Conelli98 wrote:
Maybe coincidence and have it on a the say so of a very prominent figure of the Brighton area estates fraternity, that a certain Emile Heskey has just purchased a house in Ovingdean!
Yes, he's the new PE teacher at Roedean

the taffster says...
3:15pm Wed 22 Aug 12

tyronne barnett would have been ideal and cheap.we missed out there, and poached from under our noses.

VegasSeagull says...
3:15pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I posted this yesterday but I think this guy is worth a second posting. If you have the time check this guy out.

Name. Eddie Johnson
Age. 28
Height. 6 feet
Weight. 180lbs
Club. Seattle Sounders

Career stats.
Games started. 113
Goals. 113
Assist. 15
Shots. 335
Shots on target. 147

The good players over here in the MLS are equal to the championship in the UK. The best players can certainly hold their own.

VegasSeagull says...
3:18pm Wed 22 Aug 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
I posted this yesterday but I think this guy is worth a second posting. If you have the time check this guy out. Name. Eddie Johnson Age. 28 Height. 6 feet Weight. 180lbs Club. Seattle Sounders Career stats. Games started. 113 Goals. 113 Assist. 15 Shots. 335 Shots on target. 147 The good players over here in the MLS are equal to the championship in the UK. The best players can certainly hold their own.
error, goals scored should be 52.

seagulltess says...
3:20pm Wed 22 Aug 12

So bored with " We need a striker" we have all said that from the end of last season, Gus knows it but what has he done about it, he has had 4 months to do something about it and still no joy. I now see Bristol City are signing Sam Baldock; other teams do not seem to have a problem finding someone. Fact we will struggle unless we do something about it very soon.

tug509 says...
3:27pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I keep hoping that Gus has got a big grin when he is in private.Because he knows someone is on the horizon,i find it hard to believe that a man like Gus would get caught out.I hope it`s a case of keeping your cards close to your chest.UTA

Jonathan Mouette says...
3:42pm Wed 22 Aug 12

The rumour mill states that St Etienne's Guirane N'Daw, 28, is being marketed with the tractor boys and Albion possible buyers. He's a big strong box2box midfielder who was on extended loan at Brum last season. Apparently went off the boil when he returned to the UK from Senagal's African Cup debacle. Doesn't answer the striker problem but sounds like he could displace Harley on the squad sheet and that in itself can only be a good thing. Any thoughts from others with more knowledge of the guy.

VegasSeagull says...
3:55pm Wed 22 Aug 12

tug509 wrote:
I keep hoping that Gus has got a big grin when he is in private.Because he knows someone is on the horizon,i find it hard to believe that a man like Gus would get caught out.I hope it`s a case of keeping your cards close to your chest.UTA
Now wouldn't that be cute, not very likely though.

I think we would all agree that who ever we bring in has to be better than what we have or have skills or attributes that we are looking for. Some of the clubs in the premiership might well have some younger players that they would like to see go out on loan but would a young striker have enough experience to do what we want. Isn't the very idea of loaning out young players designed for them to learn their trade.

Who ever we get has to have a proven track record and that means that he will be aged above 25. A player in his mid twenties and coming form the upper division from at home or abroad, (Bridge is a perfect example) will come with a big price tag, but we get what we want/need.

A player nearing the end of his career could be perfect but will come with some problems, (Vicente a perfect example) keeping a 30 year old fit and healthy after maybe 13 or 14 years of playing is not easy.

I wouldn't want Poyet's job because he will only have one chance to get this right. A younger player might not deliver and an older player might not be available if injured after just a few games. Injuries take a lot of healing when you are older.

Jonathan Mouette says...
3:56pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Whoopee, striker problem sorted. Steven Fletcher is off to the Black Cats leaving them with a surplus of strikers and I am sure they would like to loan out Connor Wickham for a year... Check this out... Young, tall, strong...
http://www.safc.com/
players-and-staff/fi
rst-team/connor-wick
ham

Simples!!!

barnieb says...
4:18pm Wed 22 Aug 12

No wins in the last 8 league games,the only team in the championship yet to score a goal this season.Of course we need a striker,i have been saying since the middle of last season,.its nothing new.Seems that other championship teams have stolen a march on us,plenty of striker activity going on.Instead of going off pre-season to Spain,should have stayed at home to secure a finisher before they were all snapped up by other clubs.Dont buy it that we cannot compete with other clubs,we have one of the highest average home gates in the division,with along waiting list for season tickets and take more over the bars than virtually every other club in the division.

rolivan says...
4:33pm Wed 22 Aug 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
I keep hoping that Gus has got a big grin when he is in private.Because he knows someone is on the horizon,i find it hard to believe that a man like Gus would get caught out.I hope it`s a case of keeping your cards close to your chest.UTA
Now wouldn't that be cute, not very likely though.

I think we would all agree that who ever we bring in has to be better than what we have or have skills or attributes that we are looking for. Some of the clubs in the premiership might well have some younger players that they would like to see go out on loan but would a young striker have enough experience to do what we want. Isn't the very idea of loaning out young players designed for them to learn their trade.

Who ever we get has to have a proven track record and that means that he will be aged above 25. A player in his mid twenties and coming form the upper division from at home or abroad, (Bridge is a perfect example) will come with a big price tag, but we get what we want/need.

A player nearing the end of his career could be perfect but will come with some problems, (Vicente a perfect example) keeping a 30 year old fit and healthy after maybe 13 or 14 years of playing is not easy.

I wouldn't want Poyet's job because he will only have one chance to get this right. A younger player might not deliver and an older player might not be available if injured after just a few games. Injuries take a lot of healing when you are older.
Did He tell us He was signing Kusczak,Bridge,Bruno or Crofts beforehand ,apart from the Rumour mill nobody had a clue.I will continue to be Patient in the knowledge that He is doing his upmost.

Too many Harveys says...
4:50pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I don't think anyone is suggesting we go for broke and pay £10M for a striker, and I think we all agree that the sensible housekeeping of past years should continue BUT, last year we could afford £2.5M for one of the most sought after strikers in the country and managed to persude him we were his best option above other "bigger" clubs. This year we have apparently a similar budget plus a year of guaranteed 25K home gates ahead of us and yet all we hear from Gus is that we can't compete and that's why we are still short of the player we can all see we need. Some of us are struggling to understand this and that's why we're frustrated - nothing to do with unrealistic exectations.

ballantrrae says...
5:04pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Too many Harveys wrote:
One comment that hasn't been made is that Hoskins will certainly add some firepower to the squad once he gets fit.
Good point TMH but can we afford to wait until the end of Sepember ?
Talking of Hoskins does anybody know how is 'recovery' is progressing ?

mikeygit says...
5:15pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I agree with ALL the comments about the Clubs finances and agents. Those who say that we are getting extra revenue for the extra seats must remember that these seats have to be paid for as must the stadium. Repayments to the interest free loan have to be paid or there are penalties. That is business. Many clubs in this division may have stolen a march on us. Many clubs will have stretched themselves too far and will ultinatley may the penalty. The aim is for Premiership status and only 3 clubs can go up. AGENTS too are a big problem and are stifling this division and clubs who want to run their finances correctly ---aka, Albion---they are certainly holding US by the short and curlies. It is a complicated formula getting the right player, who plays the way Gus wants the team to play, can accept the right wages for us, and WANTS to come to Brighton at a price we can afford AND one that the agents also accept.
One poster suggested Gus may go if he does not get his man. I do not know but if we do not get promoted this season I give him one more season as he wants success and if he cannot get it here then he MAY be tempted to go elsewhere.
But there is a week or more to go before the Transfer Window closes he may well get someone somewhere near what he wants. Lets hope. If we thrash Barnsley 5-0 then all will be forgotten??

ballantrrae says...
5:25pm Wed 22 Aug 12

the herbster wrote:
Did any one see Gus at the final whistle last night he clenched both fists as tight as he could, arched himself backwards as phyiscally possible and was screaming at the top of his voice in sheer frustration.I think he feels it more than any one of us on this forum.No one should ever question his passion for Brighton & Hove Albion F.C
Your point is a well made one Herbster.
Can I add that it isn't just down to Poyet whom we sign as I said a couple of days ago.
Poyet and his team might identify a target but then Burke and Co have to go and do the initial work in trying to acquire said target.
As I think it was Pte who said, that if Poyet is concerned about not being able to bring in another striker then he (Pte) was concerned. I echo that sentiment
However getting another midfielder in who has physical presence in place of Dicker might be a surprisingly effective move.
I thought we looked a little lightweight both up front and in midfield with only CMS consistently 'riding' a challenge and retaining the ball CMS played well until he faded after Barnes went off which was hardly surprising given his pre-season problems.
Lets hope Poyet's concerns prove unfounded and that within the next 9 days the Albion sign the players they want and need.

JoeBlow says...
5:27pm Wed 22 Aug 12

seagulltess wrote:
So bored with " We need a striker" we have all said that from the end of last season, Gus knows it but what has he done about it, he has had 4 months to do something about it and still no joy. I now see Bristol City are signing Sam Baldock; other teams do not seem to have a problem finding someone. Fact we will struggle unless we do something about it very soon.
Yeah, you're quite right, Tess. Gus has had loads of chances to buy just the right player at just the right price but just couldn't be bothered.

(PS I'm being sarcastic, in case you didn't realise).

bruce beckett says...
5:41pm Wed 22 Aug 12

We're three goalless games into the new season yet still the striker saga rumbles on. Many of our rivals have managed to sign a striker. Charlton got Fuller, Sheff Weds Rodri and Bristol City are reportedly close to acquiring Sam Baldock from West Ham. Don't know whether any of these players were on Gus's radar but surely one of his targets must be available at the right price?

ballantrrae says...
5:44pm Wed 22 Aug 12

rolivan wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
I keep hoping that Gus has got a big grin when he is in private.Because he knows someone is on the horizon,i find it hard to believe that a man like Gus would get caught out.I hope it`s a case of keeping your cards close to your chest.UTA
Now wouldn't that be cute, not very likely though.

I think we would all agree that who ever we bring in has to be better than what we have or have skills or attributes that we are looking for. Some of the clubs in the premiership might well have some younger players that they would like to see go out on loan but would a young striker have enough experience to do what we want. Isn't the very idea of loaning out young players designed for them to learn their trade.

Who ever we get has to have a proven track record and that means that he will be aged above 25. A player in his mid twenties and coming form the upper division from at home or abroad, (Bridge is a perfect example) will come with a big price tag, but we get what we want/need.

A player nearing the end of his career could be perfect but will come with some problems, (Vicente a perfect example) keeping a 30 year old fit and healthy after maybe 13 or 14 years of playing is not easy.

I wouldn't want Poyet's job because he will only have one chance to get this right. A younger player might not deliver and an older player might not be available if injured after just a few games. Injuries take a lot of healing when you are older.
Did He tell us He was signing Kusczak,Bridge,Bruno or Crofts beforehand ,apart from the Rumour mill nobody had a clue.I will continue to be Patient in the knowledge that He is doing his upmost.
Actually if memory serves me right Alfie T was saying for at leastv 2 weeks beforehand that Kuszczak was going to sign.
I know it might be a gamble Vegas Seagull but getting a young premiership striker on a year's loan (ideally with an option to buy) might be worth trying. After all we might end up with a potential Zamora or Wellbeck.

championshipgull says...
5:49pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I Think we are going to see some goals Saturday, but if not and in the absence of a new striker it could be time to start thinking about giving Agdestein a try . He was looking ok pre season and when he played last year.

Jonathan Mouette says...
5:53pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I've already suggested the best available (imho of course) that being Connor Wickham at Sunderland. They've just signed Fletcher, already have Saha and 3 other strikers. Why keep a 20 yo £8M striker in the devpt squad when he could be playing regular footie at the Amex. C'mon Martin O'Neill you know it makes sense!!! Fingers crossed he reads this.

ballantrrae says...
5:53pm Wed 22 Aug 12

ballantrrae wrote:
Too many Harveys wrote:
One comment that hasn't been made is that Hoskins will certainly add some firepower to the squad once he gets fit.
Good point TMH but can we afford to wait until the end of Sepember ?
Talking of Hoskins does anybody know how is 'recovery' is progressing ?
Apologies for all the 'literals'
Should be September and also 'his recovery'.

Vince says...
6:09pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Some very good points made above, not the least from Too many Harveys who says "Spoil the Ship for a h'penny worth of tar". A fast sharp striker e.g. Baldock or Fuller, would have fitted well into our side, and we would now be sitting on top with 6 points right now, rather than with one point and looking at the abyss.
It's absolutely critical that we find such a player (and they have been available).
For all Bloom and Knight's prudence in spending, there will come a time when we need to start thinking big. At the moment we are a million light years away from spending like the premier league clubs, but Swansea have shown that once you reach the promised land, and show you can stay there, your players suddenly become worth a lot of money. Joe Allen, sold to Liverpool for 15m, would only have commanded 3m when the Swans were in the Championship.
If Craig MacKail-Smith was running rings round premiership defenders he would suddenly be worth 10m.
We need to get up there quickly before our stars like Will Buckley and Thomas Kuszac leave us, Gus goes, and we start to go downhill. Now is the time to seize the moment before it is too late.

If that means spending over the budget, go for it Tony and Dick, because the rewards will be great, and the forward momentum of a team at the top of the Championship will be massive.

Tony Act now!!!

gordongull says...
6:43pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Opinion has been divided over the close season, with quite a few, including myself, feeling that the existing strike-force could make an impact, thanks to vastly improved service.
The Hoskins injury hasn't helped, but the number of unconverted chances has reached alarming proportions. Under this new set of circumstances, It would be a risky strategy to just say, ''we will start scoring soon enough'', as there is no evidence to suggest that this is likely.
An impressive array of talent has been assembled, which looks capable of a high finishing position.
In no way do I advocate breaking the bank, but if a mid-table finish while playing some good football is the limit of our ambition, the recently signed players will not be around this time next year.
It is imperative that we get the right partner for CMS, and while Gus has avoided a number of strikers who would not improve us, a few good ones have no doubt slipped through the net.
No need to panic yet, - there are still nine days left to put our season on track.
Good luck Gus!

falmer seagull says...
6:49pm Wed 22 Aug 12

When and if we get this striker, I do not think that Gus will play with two strikers and four in midfield, especially with one midfielder being a winger, of which we have three!

tug509 says...
6:54pm Wed 22 Aug 12

"Dont spoil the ship for ha,peth of tar " was my fathers favourite saying,and yes he was a RN man.I refuse to believe that the brains behind our brilliant club and achieved so much,would fail at the final hurdle.If you or i are concerned about something to do with our club (striker/mf/cb at the moment) then i`m certain they are.To think they dont care or are`nt doing enough is rediculous,they are as frustrated as we are.You and i are`nt under pressure they are,anyone who thinks they can do better stand up.In Gus i most definately trust,or is anyone for returning to the old ground and old team.UTA

GosportGull says...
7:08pm Wed 22 Aug 12

fretlessbass wrote:
Conelli98 says... 1:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12 Maybe coincidence and have it on a the say so of a very prominent figure of the Brighton area estates fraternity, that a certain Emile Heskey has just purchased a house in Ovingdean - Yeah right ! An estate agent would never tell a lie would he ?!
Please say its not true ...Heskey ???? NOOOO ! Hopefully just a holiday home for his new luxury boat or his agents boat ... i expect they both get them in their transfer deals !

GosportGull says...
7:20pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I think we should give Toby a try ... why not , young , eager to impress , good skills , and if he plays close to CMS and not in some left side midfield role ...will be on the end of everything going .. Hes fast too .... At least give the lad a try ! Didnt really understand putting Vicente on upfront last night ... if hes injured hes injured ...give Toby a try ... i think one goal from him and his confidence would burst ! Go on Gus , give the lad a break , everybody deserves one ... could save us alot of money on a striker too if he smashes in 20 goals ! Positive thinking Gull lol .....

DorsetSeagull says...
7:21pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Very entertaining game last night, but don't understand negativity towards us from tv. Was told this morning that Tony Cottee on Sky, who repeatedly criticised us last season, said he was having trouble recognising who the home team were, Brighton are playing 4-5-1 and have obviously set their game to play for the draw. Laughable in the extreme, but that's the picture that was painted on the Sky reports. What do they see that 25,000 others aren't?

Hovite says...
7:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Just been commenting on the King Alfred ice rink story and it seems that the Argus is infested with even more village idiots, than we suffer with on here.

The Albion threads are quite civilised compared with the Argus News side.

I think it would be good to one day get the Brighton Tigers ice hockey team back.

Anyone else think we should have a serious ice venue in the city?

Guernsey c gull says...
7:31pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I have read all these vews and it is surely obvious we need that striker and one more midfielder, and gus is a lot more astute than us, and tb is no fool, so I really do believe they are on the case , all will be revealed, same as bridge, Vicente, Bruno etc, could be a great surprise for us, keep the faith !

Albion In Staffs says...
7:36pm Wed 22 Aug 12

GosportGull wrote:
fretlessbass wrote:
Conelli98 says... 1:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12 Maybe coincidence and have it on a the say so of a very prominent figure of the Brighton area estates fraternity, that a certain Emile Heskey has just purchased a house in Ovingdean - Yeah right ! An estate agent would never tell a lie would he ?!
Please say its not true ...Heskey ???? NOOOO ! Hopefully just a holiday home for his new luxury boat or his agents boat ... i expect they both get them in their transfer deals !
my own personal view is Heskey would do a great job for us in the championship.

Seen him play up here. Don't be fooled by common opinion! In the Championship he'd do the job...

gordongull says...
7:44pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Albion In Staffs wrote:
GosportGull wrote:
fretlessbass wrote:
Conelli98 says... 1:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12 Maybe coincidence and have it on a the say so of a very prominent figure of the Brighton area estates fraternity, that a certain Emile Heskey has just purchased a house in Ovingdean - Yeah right ! An estate agent would never tell a lie would he ?!
Please say its not true ...Heskey ???? NOOOO ! Hopefully just a holiday home for his new luxury boat or his agents boat ... i expect they both get them in their transfer deals !
my own personal view is Heskey would do a great job for us in the championship.

Seen him play up here. Don't be fooled by common opinion! In the Championship he'd do the job...
If the Ovingdean rumour is true, he could, and probably would hit his back garden from the Amex.

Albion In Staffs says...
7:51pm Wed 22 Aug 12

gordongull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
GosportGull wrote:
fretlessbass wrote:
Conelli98 says... 1:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12 Maybe coincidence and have it on a the say so of a very prominent figure of the Brighton area estates fraternity, that a certain Emile Heskey has just purchased a house in Ovingdean - Yeah right ! An estate agent would never tell a lie would he ?!
Please say its not true ...Heskey ???? NOOOO ! Hopefully just a holiday home for his new luxury boat or his agents boat ... i expect they both get them in their transfer deals !
my own personal view is Heskey would do a great job for us in the championship.

Seen him play up here. Don't be fooled by common opinion! In the Championship he'd do the job...
If the Ovingdean rumour is true, he could, and probably would hit his back garden from the Amex.
Calm down!
He'd load the gun, CMS fires the bullets. People seem to forget CMS is an important part of all this..... We're signing someone to play "with" not "instead of"

surreyalbion says...
7:52pm Wed 22 Aug 12

DorsetSeagull wrote:
Very entertaining game last night, but don't understand negativity towards us from tv. Was told this morning that Tony Cottee on Sky, who repeatedly criticised us last season, said he was having trouble recognising who the home team were, Brighton are playing 4-5-1 and have obviously set their game to play for the draw. Laughable in the extreme, but that's the picture that was painted on the Sky reports. What do they see that 25,000 others aren't?
In the first half Cardiff did play as if they were the home team

Albion In Staffs says...
7:55pm Wed 22 Aug 12

surreyalbion wrote:
DorsetSeagull wrote:
Very entertaining game last night, but don't understand negativity towards us from tv. Was told this morning that Tony Cottee on Sky, who repeatedly criticised us last season, said he was having trouble recognising who the home team were, Brighton are playing 4-5-1 and have obviously set their game to play for the draw. Laughable in the extreme, but that's the picture that was painted on the Sky reports. What do they see that 25,000 others aren't?
In the first half Cardiff did play as if they were the home team
In which case, we did really well to get an "away" point against a team many expect to be up there this season.

See? We're not as bad as people think!!!

pjwilk says...
7:57pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Hovite wrote:
Just been commenting on the King Alfred ice rink story and it seems that the Argus is infested with even more village idiots, than we suffer with on here.

The Albion threads are quite civilised compared with the Argus News side.

I think it would be good to one day get the Brighton Tigers ice hockey team back.

Anyone else think we should have a serious ice venue in the city?
Definitely agree with you.We were promised a stadium to replace the Sports Stadium over 50 years ago and to re-establish the Brighton Tigers would be a dream come true.They were the best in England with a lot of top Canadian players.They would get a Hugh following.Our children and grandchildren have been denied this great sport by our useless council.

surreyalbion says...
7:58pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Albion In Staffs wrote:
surreyalbion wrote:
DorsetSeagull wrote:
Very entertaining game last night, but don't understand negativity towards us from tv. Was told this morning that Tony Cottee on Sky, who repeatedly criticised us last season, said he was having trouble recognising who the home team were, Brighton are playing 4-5-1 and have obviously set their game to play for the draw. Laughable in the extreme, but that's the picture that was painted on the Sky reports. What do they see that 25,000 others aren't?
In the first half Cardiff did play as if they were the home team
In which case, we did really well to get an "away" point against a team many expect to be up there this season.

See? We're not as bad as people think!!!
Lol XL !

tug509 says...
8:09pm Wed 22 Aug 12

DorsetSeagull wrote:
Very entertaining game last night, but don't understand negativity towards us from tv. Was told this morning that Tony Cottee on Sky, who repeatedly criticised us last season, said he was having trouble recognising who the home team were, Brighton are playing 4-5-1 and have obviously set their game to play for the draw. Laughable in the extreme, but that's the picture that was painted on the Sky reports. What do they see that 25,000 others aren't?
I`ve always thought the same,we are on sky once in the same time as leeds are on four.Dont want to hear that rubbish about them being bigger than us,on last seasons final table we were 4 places and 5 points better.As for cottee,i think he must have got turned down on a night out in Brighton,because the little shorthouse has never had a kind word for us that i can remember.UTA

Hovite says...
8:17pm Wed 22 Aug 12

pjwilk wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Just been commenting on the King Alfred ice rink story and it seems that the Argus is infested with even more village idiots, than we suffer with on here.

The Albion threads are quite civilised compared with the Argus News side.

I think it would be good to one day get the Brighton Tigers ice hockey team back.

Anyone else think we should have a serious ice venue in the city?
Definitely agree with you.We were promised a stadium to replace the Sports Stadium over 50 years ago and to re-establish the Brighton Tigers would be a dream come true.They were the best in England with a lot of top Canadian players.They would get a Hugh following.Our children and grandchildren have been denied this great sport by our useless council.
Yep they had a similar story line to the Albion, but without a happy ending. Losing their ice venue and ending up just playing away matches, only to eventually fizzle out.

I hope to see another ice venue in the city, as you say generations have missed out on this sport and leisure activity.

oldwalbertonian says...
8:53pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Claude Back wrote:
'Would not 'woud'.
My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!

oldwalbertonian says...
9:12pm Wed 22 Aug 12

My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!

surreyalbion says...
9:24pm Wed 22 Aug 12

oldwalbertonian wrote:
My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!
Pedants corner, or are you being funny?

Claude Back says...
10:51pm Wed 22 Aug 12

oldwalbertonian wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
'Would not 'woud'.
My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!
On what evidence? Just because I corrected my own mistake to aid clarity? Is that a crime now? You might try reading the script before passing judgement. I have refrained from insulting you.

ADS_BRAKES says...
11:24pm Wed 22 Aug 12

What about Harry Kewell?

He was pretty good out here in the A-League last year and is desperate to find a club back in England! He hs become a good target man as a striker and is no longer a winger at all.

VegasSeagull says...
11:30pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I bet that like me, an expat but Brighton till I die, there are people all over the world checking out the Seagulls website just waiting to see that we have signed one or more new players.
Some might think that we have too much time on our hands but that's not it. Most expats only have a very few people to talk Brighton with. I am in Vegas and I have no one to talk with, not many seagulls flying over the desert. Not many soccor fans period.

It might be that we don't get our desired players, the window might shut too early for us, even though Gus would like it to shut before the first match of the season.
If this turns out to be the case I hope that all will rally around the club and Gus in particular and not start pointing the finger of blame.

It just might turn out to be agood thing, if we don't get new we will have to use existing and who knows, just maybe one of the lads will surprise us all.

,

oldwalbertonian says...
11:30pm Wed 22 Aug 12

surreyalbion wrote:
oldwalbertonian wrote:
My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!
Pedants corner, or are you being funny?
Blimey, we're sharp on here tonight!

WisdomSpeaks says...
11:34pm Wed 22 Aug 12

SMF20 wrote:
Tony the tiger eastbourne wrote:
The answer is simple. GET BOBBY BACK!!!
Or GLENN. Im like a scratched record but we should never have let him go. He'd be cheap too
I agree. How he was ever allowed to go for free only for us then to pay £2-3 Million on CMS is a mystery. Murray was the better footballer and he scored goals. I hear people say he had a strange attitude - so what? So does Wayne Rooney but he can play football! The players are out there but I think Gus would do better if he got in his motor and watched games instead of relying on the agents with DVD's which he talks about a lot. I'm sure there is someone like Peter Ward out there but it means scouring all leagues. I think many managers rely too heavily on agents to recommend players and they've always got a vested interest. Come on Gus get on the road and see first hand.

oldwalbertonian says...
11:36pm Wed 22 Aug 12

surreyalbion wrote:
oldwalbertonian wrote:
My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!
Pedants corner, or are you being funny?
Oh insult away. Why do you place so much importance on people's spelling and grammar. This is a forum for football debate, not a primary school spelling bee. It's not important in the context of this message bored.

oldwalbertonian says...
11:42pm Wed 22 Aug 12

oldwalbertonian wrote:
surreyalbion wrote:
oldwalbertonian wrote:
My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!
Pedants corner, or are you being funny?
Oh insult away. Why do you place so much importance on people's spelling and grammar. This is a forum for football debate, not a primary school spelling bee. It's not important in the context of this message bored.
Sorry Surrey that was meant for boring Back.

bobby2010 says...
12:02am Thu 23 Aug 12

Will Buckley was lured to Brighton with a promise of a striker's role.

I would see him as a very good target man with CMS alongside. His ability to convert chances into goals has already been well demonstrated.

WisdomSpeaks says...
12:44am Thu 23 Aug 12

pjwilk wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Just been commenting on the King Alfred ice rink story and it seems that the Argus is infested with even more village idiots, than we suffer with on here.

The Albion threads are quite civilised compared with the Argus News side.

I think it would be good to one day get the Brighton Tigers ice hockey team back.

Anyone else think we should have a serious ice venue in the city?
Definitely agree with you.We were promised a stadium to replace the Sports Stadium over 50 years ago and to re-establish the Brighton Tigers would be a dream come true.They were the best in England with a lot of top Canadian players.They would get a Hugh following.Our children and grandchildren have been denied this great sport by our useless council.
Come on Rupe Fresher, Johnny Carlyle et al!!!

albionbloke says...
5:12am Thu 23 Aug 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
I bet that like me, an expat but Brighton till I die, there are people all over the world checking out the Seagulls website just waiting to see that we have signed one or more new players.
Some might think that we have too much time on our hands but that's not it. Most expats only have a very few people to talk Brighton with. I am in Vegas and I have no one to talk with, not many seagulls flying over the desert. Not many soccor fans period.

It might be that we don't get our desired players, the window might shut too early for us, even though Gus would like it to shut before the first match of the season.
If this turns out to be the case I hope that all will rally around the club and Gus in particular and not start pointing the finger of blame.

It just might turn out to be agood thing, if we don't get new we will have to use existing and who knows, just maybe one of the lads will surprise us all.

,
Seeing as I'm there about 3 or 4 times a year VS, we need to find a way to link up so we can banter away about all things Albion. Nothing like coming to the aid of a lost soul in the desert!

Mark Dixon says...
7:21am Thu 23 Aug 12

Frederic Piquionne from West Ham is being mentioned, not seen him play much but his sats in England only have him score 1 in 6 games....Is that what GP is looking for?

Claude Back says...
9:15am Thu 23 Aug 12

oldwalbertonian wrote:
surreyalbion wrote:
oldwalbertonian wrote:
My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!
Pedants corner, or are you being funny?
Oh insult away. Why do you place so much importance on people's spelling and grammar. This is a forum for football debate, not a primary school spelling bee. It's not important in the context of this message bored.
You truly are an idiot. If you read the posts correctly the only person's spelling I was correcting was my own as many others do when they realise they have made a mistake.
Oh, and for the record, it's 'board' not 'bored' (unless it was a deliberate pun, which I doubt, as you wouldn't understand it) and "pedants' corner". Also, spelling and grammar are important as it makes the message clearer. It also shows how stupid someone must be not to learn from other people's spelling from reading other posts or how lazy or inattentive to detail they are. (I am not talking about 'typos'.) Therefore, why should I value such opinions or respect them? Likewise your criticism.

Rhodes Seagull says...
9:19am Thu 23 Aug 12

From The Sun (online version today) Brighton boss Gus Poyet wants QPR striker Jay Bothroyd to cure his scoring problems.

Hovite says...
9:42am Thu 23 Aug 12

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Just been commenting on the King Alfred ice rink story and it seems that the Argus is infested with even more village idiots, than we suffer with on here.

The Albion threads are quite civilised compared with the Argus News side.

I think it would be good to one day get the Brighton Tigers ice hockey team back.

Anyone else think we should have a serious ice venue in the city?
Definitely agree with you.We were promised a stadium to replace the Sports Stadium over 50 years ago and to re-establish the Brighton Tigers would be a dream come true.They were the best in England with a lot of top Canadian players.They would get a Hugh following.Our children and grandchildren have been denied this great sport by our useless council.
Come on Rupe Fresher, Johnny Carlyle et al!!!
I am too young to remember these guys, I was born a couple of years before the SS ice rink closed and I only know the Brighton Tigers as a great historical Brighton legend.

championshipgull says...
9:53am Thu 23 Aug 12

Claude Back wrote:
oldwalbertonian wrote:
surreyalbion wrote:
oldwalbertonian wrote:
My god you're a crushingly tiresome bore, back to pendants corner with you!
Pedants corner, or are you being funny?
Oh insult away. Why do you place so much importance on people's spelling and grammar. This is a forum for football debate, not a primary school spelling bee. It's not important in the context of this message bored.
You truly are an idiot. If you read the posts correctly the only person's spelling I was correcting was my own as many others do when they realise they have made a mistake.
Oh, and for the record, it's 'board' not 'bored' (unless it was a deliberate pun, which I doubt, as you wouldn't understand it) and "pedants' corner". Also, spelling and grammar are important as it makes the message clearer. It also shows how stupid someone must be not to learn from other people's spelling from reading other posts or how lazy or inattentive to detail they are. (I am not talking about 'typos'.) Therefore, why should I value such opinions or respect them? Likewise your criticism.
Charlie Oatway could not read until he was 30 but became the club coach. Are you suggesting his football opinions were not of value?

Too many Harveys says...
10:31am Thu 23 Aug 12

bobby2010 wrote:
Will Buckley was lured to Brighton with a promise of a striker's role.

I would see him as a very good target man with CMS alongside. His ability to convert chances into goals has already been well demonstrated.
We were saying the same thing on Tuesday night. Certainly worth a go I would have thought. A fair few top strikers have been converted wingers - Thierry Henry anyone? We also have three wingers when mostly we only play one with another coming off the bench if needed so it would also better utilise the squad if it worked.

Captain Haddock says...
11:35am Fri 24 Aug 12

DorsetSeagull wrote:
Very entertaining game last night, but don't understand negativity towards us from tv. Was told this morning that Tony Cottee on Sky, who repeatedly criticised us last season, said he was having trouble recognising who the home team were, Brighton are playing 4-5-1 and have obviously set their game to play for the draw. Laughable in the extreme, but that's the picture that was painted on the Sky reports. What do they see that 25,000 others aren't?
Tony Cottee is a fast-dating dinosaur who misses the mark regularly in analysis. If he had a point about us last season it would have to be our tendency to dither at the back and take TOO much time.

However, we are noticeable by our radically improved play in that regard.

I he thought we played for a draw on Tuesday he's an idiot who should be relieved of his duties as an "expert" ASAP.

I don't suppose he'd say that of Barca, Norwich, Swansea or Spain would he? No, because they are too level.

We had to work hard for that draw, deliberately missing the abundant chances we created then, didn't we, eh??!!

What a fool he is.

Captain Haddock says...
11:39am Fri 24 Aug 12

Hovite wrote:
Just been commenting on the King Alfred ice rink story and it seems that the Argus is infested with even more village idiots, than we suffer with on here.

The Albion threads are quite civilised compared with the Argus News side.

I think it would be good to one day get the Brighton Tigers ice hockey team back.

Anyone else think we should have a serious ice venue in the city?
Yes, why not?!

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