Dobbie on stand-by as CMS doubts grow (From The Argus)

saraman says...
9:11am Tue 25 Sep 12

It would appear that we will have to get used to CMS being rested through injury or otherwise during what is going to be a hectic season. The way the man gives his all in every game it is not surprising that he picks up the odd injury. It will hurt him very much not to play Saturday. Now, Vicente on the other hand??

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mark by the sea says...
9:18am Tue 25 Sep 12

Now is the time to see if we are covered up front for a real go at promotion, For me not strong enough at the front, or good enough cover if we lost GG for a while,
Clearly the club need to clear out 5_8 players who won't have any part in the club. They must be losing money .. They have a second 11 who won't even get into the first team squad!
As for the developement squad, sadly lacking in home grown youth players..
Anyone know if hInsh has found a job yet?

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Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) says...
10:00am Tue 25 Sep 12

It remains to be seen whether he is the solution up front. 6 goals in the development squad and he wasn't on the score sheet (although, to be fair, he played a significant part in three of them). I hope he shines when he's given his opportunity.

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mark5 says...
10:07am Tue 25 Sep 12

With a run in the side, those who have worries about Dobbie will soon be assured. Strong, quick and skillfull and with experience at the business end of the season, when strength and character is most needed. A very adequate replacement for CMS and I expect to see much more of him over the coming weeks as the demands of keeping at or near the top of the Championship, will require more rest periods for CMS. It is all good!!

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Claude Back says...
10:09am Tue 25 Sep 12

Gus will have to play like Spain with a 'false nine' if he doesn't use Barnes up front.
Dobbie is really an attacking midfielder, not a striker and does best working behind two strikers so he is not a replacement for CMS.

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SMF20 says...
10:12am Tue 25 Sep 12

Im looking forward to seeing how this guy gets on. Alot of teams were keen to sign him before we did and he has looked a class act every time ive seen him play, I believe he will be top notch for us. Im not sure playing on the last mans shoulder is his game but lets leave that to our main man GP to decide.
Good luck to him if he gets the opportunity Saturday. UTA

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dave from bexill says...
10:17am Tue 25 Sep 12

mark by the sea wrote:
Now is the time to see if we are covered up front for a real go at promotion, For me not strong enough at the front, or good enough cover if we lost GG for a while,
Clearly the club need to clear out 5_8 players who won't have any part in the club. They must be losing money .. They have a second 11 who won't even get into the first team squad!
As for the developement squad, sadly lacking in home grown youth players..
Anyone know if hInsh has found a job yet?

I agree. Although we do have a much stronger squad now, I think of all the players at the club, CMS's absence will be the most difficult to replace, not just for his goals, but equally his unique work rate and movement. Conversely, Gus has brought players into the squad for this type of dilemma, although of course,as others have said, he's made no secret in his desire to bring in a target man.

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Too many Harveys says...
10:23am Tue 25 Sep 12

All the evidence from his previous clubs is that Dobbie should slot in well and with the goal scoring threat we have all over the pitch this season we should be fine even without the new improved CMS. This is where the depth of the squad starts to tell. 11 players can't win a league so we'll know more about our real chances this season once the fringe players start to have to be utilised. Whilst it’s true MBTS that if GG or AEA were injured or suspended we’d be worse off, we do have the very promising Dunk as cover. If they are both out then we have a bigger problem but realistically how many real quality players can a Championship squad have in reserve just for a few games cover a season?

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mark5 says...
10:26am Tue 25 Sep 12

Claude Back wrote:
Gus will have to play like Spain with a 'false nine' if he doesn't use Barnes up front.
Dobbie is really an attacking midfielder, not a striker and does best working behind two strikers so he is not a replacement for CMS.

I understand that, however, he is versatile and will play a strike role too where needed as in the event of an absense by CMS.

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SMF20 says...
10:28am Tue 25 Sep 12

Too many Harveys wrote:
All the evidence from his previous clubs is that Dobbie should slot in well and with the goal scoring threat we have all over the pitch this season we should be fine even without the new improved CMS. This is where the depth of the squad starts to tell. 11 players can't win a league so we'll know more about our real chances this season once the fringe players start to have to be utilised. Whilst it’s true MBTS that if GG or AEA were injured or suspended we’d be worse off, we do have the very promising Dunk as cover. If they are both out then we have a bigger problem but realistically how many real quality players can a Championship squad have in reserve just for a few games cover a season?

I tend to agree my friend although i do see MBTS point. I would add that we also have Calde who could slot in if the worst if ever happened and we were to have 2 of our first choice guys on the sidelines. The defence does tend to not be shuffled like other positions and so I can see how 1 more very good CB would be useful.

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Tommy11 says...
10:46am Tue 25 Sep 12

Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....

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fratsomrover says...
10:48am Tue 25 Sep 12

Just returned to the UK to find us top by 2 clear points. How great to win 3 on the road and 5 on the trot. Well done one and all. I would imagine Dobbie will be an adequate replacement for CMS. He has a wealth of experience and I'm sure he's just itching at the chance to show what he can do. Before I left, most of the news revolved around the mercurial Vicente, now he's not even mentioned. Any news on the man we were building the team around ? Is he history or is he still part of the set-up ?

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Hovite says...
10:57am Tue 25 Sep 12

Tommy11 wrote:
Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....

Yeah I saw that Tommy;

Has anyone on here got a seagull tattooed across their calf’s?

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seagullsays says...
11:04am Tue 25 Sep 12

Tommy11 wrote:
Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....

Agreed. I couldn't see what point or insight it was trying to give or provide either. Turned over after 25 mins.

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dave from bexill says...
11:12am Tue 25 Sep 12

seagullsays wrote:

Tommy11 wrote:
Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....
Agreed. I couldn't see what point or insight it was trying to give or provide either. Turned over after 25 mins.

Taped it, but probably won't bother to watch it now.

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
11:28am Tue 25 Sep 12

Claude Back wrote:
Gus will have to play like Spain with a 'false nine' if he doesn't use Barnes up front. Dobbie is really an attacking midfielder, not a striker and does best working behind two strikers so he is not a replacement for CMS.

You're back (as Claude), then..?

I think Dobbie was a striker who was remodelled into an attacking midfielder, so the forward role shouldn't present a problem to him. Dobbie is quite a handful in terms of movement which pulls defenders all over the place, so Barnes could possibly thrive alonside him. Anyway, it will be interesting to find out how Gus plays it, should CMS definitely be out. I look forward to seeing how Dobbie gets on if given the chance. I'd also like to see young Toby given a decent chance at some point.
Okay, there might be areas where we are less solid in depth, but boy this team looks pretty robust overall with plenty of class available.

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rolivan says...
11:30am Tue 25 Sep 12

Maybe Gus is just trying to keep Birmingham guessing as to the team they will face.

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Boston Boy says...
11:52am Tue 25 Sep 12

rolivan wrote:
Maybe Gus is just trying to keep Birmingham guessing as to the team they will face.

or maybe he's not

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VegasSeagull says...
1:00pm Tue 25 Sep 12

When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS.

This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options.

I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that.
If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements.

Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .

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VegasSeagull says...
1:09pm Tue 25 Sep 12

mark by the sea wrote:
Now is the time to see if we are covered up front for a real go at promotion, For me not strong enough at the front, or good enough cover if we lost GG for a while, Clearly the club need to clear out 5_8 players who won't have any part in the club. They must be losing money .. They have a second 11 who won't even get into the first team squad! As for the developement squad, sadly lacking in home grown youth players.. Anyone know if hInsh has found a job yet?

I don't think I agree with your assesment of our goal scoring threat, in terms of cover.

Barnes could stand in for CMS and Lopez, Kazenga or Orlandi could fill the role Barnes has been playing. The inclusion of Dobbie doesn't have to mean that he replaces CMS but what it does mean is that we have options regarding what pattern we play.

I do agree that we need a center back as cover but again we do have a certain amount of cover as we stand now. The center back vacancy would be the one I would like to fill first.

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LesBerry says...
1:36pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hovite wrote:

Tommy11 wrote: Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....
Yeah I saw that Tommy; Has anyone on here got a seagull tattooed across their calf’s?

I heard the guy with the tattoo and a liking for cooked breakfasts is called Mark, and he lives by the sea..

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PittaPatta says...
2:13pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS.

This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options.

I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that.
If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements.

Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .

Agree with you Vegas.
There are still too many fans pigeon holing players into only being capable of playing in one, or at the most, two positions.
Gus has built his strong squad around their adaptability, as well as their overall skill level. And although this doesn't always equate to obtaining the very best from each and every one of them at all times, it does mean that we are capable of switching and mixing, both before and during play.
Dobbie is an attacking midfielder who has been adapted from an out and out striker. Therefore the player is well versed in both roles, and I have no doubts that he will fill the CMS position extremely well come Saturday.
Birmingham will be smarting from what was a quite pathetic performance against Barnsley at home, so it might not exactly the walk in the park that many will anticipate. But Albion should nevertheless win reasonably comfortably, with or without CMS.

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PittaPatta says...
2:16pm Tue 25 Sep 12

'be' the walk in the park - apologies

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Hovite says...
2:16pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Although to be fair I don't think mbts has OCD.

The first thing I thought was I wonder if the guy is a frequent user of this comment board. Second thing I thought was, I must stop using this comment board. lol

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VegasSeagull says...
2:17pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Some numbers that suggest that CMS should have a week off regardless of injury.

Brighton have conceded just one goal at home, Birmingham have leaked seven away and seven at home.

Brighton have amassed a total of 95 shots of which 48 were on target.
Birmingham totals are, 72 shots and 36 on target.

In their last matches Brighton fired off 15 shots, 9 on target, Birmingham just 3 shots, 2 on target.

Brighton have won 48 corners, Birmingham 22

Birmingham's top scorer has netted 3 times, Wayne Bridge, a member of the, 'fab five,' is just 1 goal behind him with 2, need I say more?

Brighton have 3 clean sheets Birmingham 1.

So CMS takes a break and Dobbie and the rest of the lads have their fun with Birmingham.

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Hovite says...
2:17pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Meant for LesBerry

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PittaPatta says...
2:18pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Tommy11 wrote:
Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....

The programme can be summed up by my wife's comment at the end :
"Is that it?"
Enough said!

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PittaPatta says...
2:20pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hovite wrote:
Although to be fair I don't think mbts has OCD.

The first thing I thought was I wonder if the guy is a frequent user of this comment board. Second thing I thought was, I must stop using this comment board. lol

Nice one Hovite :0)

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tug509 says...
2:22pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hovite wrote:

Tommy11 wrote:
Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....
Yeah I saw that Tommy;

Has anyone on here got a seagull tattooed across their calf’s?

No but i`ve got one on each forearm,apparently the Amex cost 50m,nice to see AEA and CO but otherwise a complete waste of time.Good to see Dobbie get a run,im sure he will do a good job come saturday make a couple and get his name on the sheet,all the best CMS.UTA

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Bish May Turn says...
2:44pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
Some numbers that suggest that CMS should have a week off regardless of injury. Brighton have conceded just one goal at home, Birmingham have leaked seven away and seven at home. Brighton have amassed a total of 95 shots of which 48 were on target. Birmingham totals are, 72 shots and 36 on target. In their last matches Brighton fired off 15 shots, 9 on target, Birmingham just 3 shots, 2 on target. Brighton have won 48 corners, Birmingham 22 Birmingham's top scorer has netted 3 times, Wayne Bridge, a member of the, 'fab five,' is just 1 goal behind him with 2, need I say more? Brighton have 3 clean sheets Birmingham 1. So CMS takes a break and Dobbie and the rest of the lads have their fun with Birmingham.

Do you have a job, if so are there any vacancies?

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Gee Jay says...
3:03pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Not much to do in Vegas then......

Very poor and boring programme on More 4 last night, as others have said. If we Albion supporters thought that, then they must have had others switching off in droves. (sorry Charlie and Adam).

I don't have a tattoo, but I do have a seagull perched in a crack.

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
3:11pm Tue 25 Sep 12

PittaPatta wrote:

Tommy11 wrote: Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....
The programme can be summed up by my wife's comment at the end : "Is that it?" Enough said!

I sympathise, I often get comments like that at the end of it...

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ballantrrae says...
3:12pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS.

This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options.

I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that.
If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements.

Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .

I aqree VegasSeagull with your comment that we are much better placed this year than last and that the squad 'offers so many options'.
However I don't think the jigsaw is quite complete yet.
Poyet is on record as still wanting a target man and another CB.
If we lose CMS for a couple of weeks to injury it is not the disaster it might have been before Dobbie was signed. Yes we will miss him but at least we can play Barnes and Dobbie up front with Barnes perhaps taking on the CMS role.
The difficulties would start if Barnes were to get a yellow card before CMS or indeed Hoskins are fit to return since Barnes will be suspended when he next gets booked.
A number of Posters have expressed the hope that CMS is not risked by being played if he is not 100% plus fit. I agree with this sentiment. The long term view needs to be taken.
Much the same applies to the CB situation if we were to lose any 2 from Greer, El-Arb and Dunk.
On a completely different subject I have just signed up via my ipad to the Argus's App electronic edition of the Argus which provides the full edition of the paper not just the 'edits' that are posted on this website.
If you have an ipad VegasSeagull you might find this service most helpful especially as it would provide you with more info than you might be getting at the moment - this assumes you aren't already a subscriber. The cost is £29.99 a year.

[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS. This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options. I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that. If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements. Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .[/p][/quote]I aqree VegasSeagull with your comment that we are much better placed this year than last and that the squad 'offers so many options'. However I don't think the jigsaw is quite complete yet. Poyet is on record as still wanting a target man and another CB. If we lose CMS for a couple of weeks to injury it is not the disaster it might have been before Dobbie was signed. Yes we will miss him but at least we can play Barnes and Dobbie up front with Barnes perhaps taking on the CMS role. The difficulties would start if Barnes were to get a yellow card before CMS or indeed Hoskins are fit to return since Barnes will be suspended when he next gets booked. A number of Posters have expressed the hope that CMS is not risked by being played if he is not 100% plus fit. I agree with this sentiment. The long term view needs to be taken. Much the same applies to the CB situation if we were to lose any 2 from Greer, El-Arb and Dunk. On a completely different subject I have just signed up via my ipad to the Argus's App electronic edition of the Argus which provides the full edition of the paper not just the 'edits' that are posted on this website. If you have an ipad VegasSeagull you might find this service most helpful especially as it would provide you with more info than you might be getting at the moment - this assumes you aren't already a subscriber. The cost is £29.99 a year. ballantrrae

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VegasSeagull says...
3:16pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Some alterantive league tables.

Goals against table.
Bton
Hudd
B. Pool
Wolves
Hull
Leic

Goals for table.
B. Pool
B. Burn
Bristol City
Bton
Burnley
Hudd

Scored first table
Wolves
Barnsley
Bton
Hudd
Leeds
B. Burn

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VegasSeagull says...
3:20pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Clean Sheet table
Barnsley
Bton
Cardiff
B. Pool
Hudd
Hull

Last 5 away games table.
Bton
Hudd
Wolves
B. Burn
B. Pool
Cardiff

Last 5 home games table

Leic
B. Pool
Hull
Middl
Cardiff
B. Burn
Bton

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VegasSeagull says...
3:23pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Bish May Turn wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Some numbers that suggest that CMS should have a week off regardless of injury. Brighton have conceded just one goal at home, Birmingham have leaked seven away and seven at home. Brighton have amassed a total of 95 shots of which 48 were on target. Birmingham totals are, 72 shots and 36 on target. In their last matches Brighton fired off 15 shots, 9 on target, Birmingham just 3 shots, 2 on target. Brighton have won 48 corners, Birmingham 22 Birmingham's top scorer has netted 3 times, Wayne Bridge, a member of the, 'fab five,' is just 1 goal behind him with 2, need I say more? Brighton have 3 clean sheets Birmingham 1. So CMS takes a break and Dobbie and the rest of the lads have their fun with Birmingham.
Do you have a job, if so are there any vacancies?

Yes I do but I doubt that you could do it.

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VegasSeagull says...
3:25pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Gee Jay wrote:
Not much to do in Vegas then...... Very poor and boring programme on More 4 last night, as others have said. If we Albion supporters thought that, then they must have had others switching off in droves. (sorry Charlie and Adam). I don't have a tattoo, but I do have a seagull perched in a crack.

So much to do it would amaze you, and yes I do know that you are refering to my day and not the city.

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VegasSeagull says...
3:25pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Gee Jay wrote:
Not much to do in Vegas then...... Very poor and boring programme on More 4 last night, as others have said. If we Albion supporters thought that, then they must have had others switching off in droves. (sorry Charlie and Adam). I don't have a tattoo, but I do have a seagull perched in a crack.

So much to do it would amaze you, and yes I do know that you are refering to my day and not the city.

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ballantrrae says...
3:26pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
Some numbers that suggest that CMS should have a week off regardless of injury.

Brighton have conceded just one goal at home, Birmingham have leaked seven away and seven at home.

Brighton have amassed a total of 95 shots of which 48 were on target.
Birmingham totals are, 72 shots and 36 on target.

In their last matches Brighton fired off 15 shots, 9 on target, Birmingham just 3 shots, 2 on target.

Brighton have won 48 corners, Birmingham 22

Birmingham's top scorer has netted 3 times, Wayne Bridge, a member of the, 'fab five,' is just 1 goal behind him with 2, need I say more?

Brighton have 3 clean sheets Birmingham 1.

So CMS takes a break and Dobbie and the rest of the lads have their fun with Birmingham.

Interesting stats VegasSeagull. Lets just hope Birmingham don't suddenly get their act together and start reversing them.
We could have a difficult match as Birmingham have little to lose in playing away to the Championship leaders.
Incidently I answered your question re who Vicente (if fit) could replace on the bench on the the 'Macca is doubtful' thread.

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ballantrrae says...
3:37pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

PittaPatta wrote:

Tommy11 wrote: Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....
The programme can be summed up by my wife's comment at the end : "Is that it?" Enough said!
I sympathise, I often get comments like that at the end of it...

Nice one Willie Irvine, if that is appropriate.

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albionbloke says...
3:43pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
Clean Sheet table
Barnsley
Bton
Cardiff
B. Pool
Hudd
Hull

Last 5 away games table.
Bton
Hudd
Wolves
B. Burn
B. Pool
Cardiff

Last 5 home games table

Leic
B. Pool
Hull
Middl
Cardiff
B. Burn
Bton

Yawn...

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VegasSeagull says...
3:52pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Ballatrea.
Yes I did see your reply to me on the other thread, sorry for not responding.
Thanks for the info re the ipad, I will look into it.

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VegasSeagull says...
3:59pm Tue 25 Sep 12

albionbloke wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Clean Sheet table Barnsley Bton Cardiff B. Pool Hudd Hull Last 5 away games table. Bton Hudd Wolves B. Burn B. Pool Cardiff Last 5 home games table Leic B. Pool Hull Middl Cardiff B. Burn Bton
Yawn...

Just another person who thinks that,'great game,' up the albion,,' we are top,' or 'Palace are sados,' are all that is interesting.

I would guess that East Enders and Corrie are your favorite TV programs, maybe Emerdale too. You don't need to think when watching those shows, just sit and believe that it's all real.

Anyone with any level of an enquiring mind might look for something that would stretch the thought processes just a tad more than soaps.

Cluck cluck,

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Hovite says...
3:59pm Tue 25 Sep 12

albionbloke wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Clean Sheet table
Barnsley
Bton
Cardiff
B. Pool
Hudd
Hull

Last 5 away games table.
Bton
Hudd
Wolves
B. Burn
B. Pool
Cardiff

Last 5 home games table

Leic
B. Pool
Hull
Middl
Cardiff
B. Burn
Bton
Yawn...

Vegas, if we wanted to know any of this rubbish we would search on the internet and find out for ourselves. Why do you force feed us as if we are foie gras.

Less is more

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PittaPatta says...
4:00pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

PittaPatta wrote:

Tommy11 wrote: Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....
The programme can be summed up by my wife's comment at the end : "Is that it?" Enough said!
I sympathise, I often get comments like that at the end of it...

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VegasSeagull says...
4:03pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hovite wrote:

albionbloke wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Clean Sheet table Barnsley Bton Cardiff B. Pool Hudd Hull Last 5 away games table. Bton Hudd Wolves B. Burn B. Pool Cardiff Last 5 home games table Leic B. Pool Hull Middl Cardiff B. Burn Bton
Yawn...
Vegas, if we wanted to know any of this rubbish we would search on the internet and find out for ourselves. Why do you force feed us as if we are foie gras. Less is more

and you speak for eveyone Hovite, who voted you home coming queen?

Cluck cluck.

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Bish May Turn says...
4:08pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:

Bish May Turn wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Some numbers that suggest that CMS should have a week off regardless of injury. Brighton have conceded just one goal at home, Birmingham have leaked seven away and seven at home. Brighton have amassed a total of 95 shots of which 48 were on target. Birmingham totals are, 72 shots and 36 on target. In their last matches Brighton fired off 15 shots, 9 on target, Birmingham just 3 shots, 2 on target. Brighton have won 48 corners, Birmingham 22 Birmingham's top scorer has netted 3 times, Wayne Bridge, a member of the, 'fab five,' is just 1 goal behind him with 2, need I say more? Brighton have 3 clean sheets Birmingham 1. So CMS takes a break and Dobbie and the rest of the lads have their fun with Birmingham.
Do you have a job, if so are there any vacancies?
Yes I do but I doubt that you could do it.

I wouldn't say that,chips are my speciality.

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dave from bexill says...
4:10pm Tue 25 Sep 12

ballantrrae wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

PittaPatta wrote:

Tommy11 wrote: Did anyone see the awful documentary about the Albion last night on More4?? It had no point to it at all!! Didn't take us behind the scenes.. Inetrviewed only 4 people (one player in El-Abd).. focused on one match against Watford (didn't show footage of the game, just of fans reaction - which was not even of the Watford match!) It was shocking! I still don't know what point it was trying to make??? embarrassing.....
The programme can be summed up by my wife's comment at the end : "Is that it?" Enough said!
I sympathise, I often get comments like that at the end of it...
Nice one Willie Irvine, if that is appropriate.

Naughty and obviously inadequate one Willie

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VegasSeagull says...
4:17pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Bish May Turn.

The only chips I work on/with are those I eat, bbq being my fav.

Trust me you almost certainly couldn't do what I do. That said, if you have an extensive knowledge of the desert and how it's cycles work then maybe you could. You will also need a very good head for math and be able to spend maybe 10 hours out in the sun with temps reaching 120f or more.

Let me know when you want to start.

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AmexicanWave says...
4:20pm Tue 25 Sep 12

I actually enjoy reading VegasSeagull's comments. It is irrelevant whether or not anyone can read his stats on the internet; when all said and done, isn't that what everyone with computer access does anyway?
Come on, give the fella a break. He shows far more intelligence than many half illiterates who post, and he has my sympathy for being so remote from the team he obviously loves.
Being based in the Midlands, I do manage to see the Seagulls fairly regularly in a season. Life for any Expat must be difficult, with only tv and computer coverage to follow. I raise my glass to them all.

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Hovite says...
4:23pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:

Hovite wrote:

albionbloke wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Clean Sheet table Barnsley Bton Cardiff B. Pool Hudd Hull Last 5 away games table. Bton Hudd Wolves B. Burn B. Pool Cardiff Last 5 home games table Leic B. Pool Hull Middl Cardiff B. Burn Bton
Yawn...
Vegas, if we wanted to know any of this rubbish we would search on the internet and find out for ourselves. Why do you force feed us as if we are foie gras. Less is more
and you speak for eveyone Hovite, who voted you home coming queen?

Cluck cluck.

You are bang out of order, we may take the mick out of you, but you've got a bad habit of being insulting. The only one clucking on these pages is you.

I didn't agree with the way you jumped to judgement on Vicente and the clubs handling of news about him, and you're slating of him, and making a drama you made out of it etc etc.

I told you honestly and straight and all you've got is childish name calling.

Others may want to tickle your back side with a feather, but I'm not.

Don't get me wrong, I haven't got a problem with you, I just wouldn't invite you around to dinner. You'd talk rubbish all night and never leave.

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VegasSeagull says...
4:25pm Tue 25 Sep 12

AmexicanWave wrote:
I actually enjoy reading VegasSeagull's comments. It is irrelevant whether or not anyone can read his stats on the internet; when all said and done, isn't that what everyone with computer access does anyway? Come on, give the fella a break. He shows far more intelligence than many half illiterates who post, and he has my sympathy for being so remote from the team he obviously loves. Being based in the Midlands, I do manage to see the Seagulls fairly regularly in a season. Life for any Expat must be difficult, with only tv and computer coverage to follow. I raise my glass to them all.

Thanks pal.

The brain dead on here have no idea. To them it is better to look at a blank screen rather than to even try to be engaged.

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LesBerry says...
4:28pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
Bish May Turn. The only chips I work on/with are those I eat, bbq being my fav. Trust me you almost certainly couldn't do what I do. That said, if you have an extensive knowledge of the desert and how it's cycles work then maybe you could. You will also need a very good head for math and be able to spend maybe 10 hours out in the sun with temps reaching 120f or more. Let me know when you want to start. ,

Didn't realise there is an outdoor Macdonalds in Vegas..

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VegasSeagull says...
4:29pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hovite wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Clean Sheet table Barnsley Bton Cardiff B. Pool Hudd Hull Last 5 away games table. Bton Hudd Wolves B. Burn B. Pool Cardiff Last 5 home games table Leic B. Pool Hull Middl Cardiff B. Burn Bton
Yawn...
Vegas, if we wanted to know any of this rubbish we would search on the internet and find out for ourselves. Why do you force feed us as if we are foie gras. Less is more
and you speak for eveyone Hovite, who voted you home coming queen? Cluck cluck.
You are bang out of order, we may take the mick out of you, but you've got a bad habit of being insulting. The only one clucking on these pages is you. I didn't agree with the way you jumped to judgement on Vicente and the clubs handling of news about him, and you're slating of him, and making a drama you made out of it etc etc. I told you honestly and straight and all you've got is childish name calling. Others may want to tickle your back side with a feather, but I'm not. Don't get me wrong, I haven't got a problem with you, I just wouldn't invite you around to dinner. You'd talk rubbish all night and never leave.

yes dear, now it's time for your nap.

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
4:30pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hovite wrote:

albionbloke wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Clean Sheet table Barnsley Bton Cardiff B. Pool Hudd Hull Last 5 away games table. Bton Hudd Wolves B. Burn B. Pool Cardiff Last 5 home games table Leic B. Pool Hull Middl Cardiff B. Burn Bton
Yawn...
Vegas, if we wanted to know any of this rubbish we would search on the internet and find out for ourselves. Why do you force feed us as if we are foie gras. Less is more

I'm impressed Hovite - getting a reference to foie grais into a comments thread about Dobbie possibly replacing CMS against Birmingham on Saturday takes the literary prize for this afternoon! It certainly beats 'get stuffed'...

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dave from bexill says...
4:33pm Tue 25 Sep 12

PittaPatta wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS.

This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options.

I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that.
If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements.

Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .
Agree with you Vegas.
There are still too many fans pigeon holing players into only being capable of playing in one, or at the most, two positions.
Gus has built his strong squad around their adaptability, as well as their overall skill level. And although this doesn't always equate to obtaining the very best from each and every one of them at all times, it does mean that we are capable of switching and mixing, both before and during play.
Dobbie is an attacking midfielder who has been adapted from an out and out striker. Therefore the player is well versed in both roles, and I have no doubts that he will fill the CMS position extremely well come Saturday.
Birmingham will be smarting from what was a quite pathetic performance against Barnsley at home, so it might not exactly the walk in the park that many will anticipate. But Albion should nevertheless win reasonably comfortably, with or without CMS.

It isn't a question of "thinking that a slight sense of fear exists" regarding the likely absence of CMS, or "too many fans are pigeon holing players" We are all aware that the squad is much stronger now than previously. However, in any squad one wants the best player available. Barcelona are a brilliant team, who probably have world class players in reserve, but would you say that they wouldn't miss Messi if he was out injured, or that the opposition wouldn't get a lift by knowing he was unavailable.
UTA

[quote][p][bold]PittaPatta[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS. This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options. I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that. If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements. Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .[/p][/quote]Agree with you Vegas. There are still too many fans pigeon holing players into only being capable of playing in one, or at the most, two positions. Gus has built his strong squad around their adaptability, as well as their overall skill level. And although this doesn't always equate to obtaining the very best from each and every one of them at all times, it does mean that we are capable of switching and mixing, both before and during play. Dobbie is an attacking midfielder who has been adapted from an out and out striker. Therefore the player is well versed in both roles, and I have no doubts that he will fill the CMS position extremely well come Saturday. Birmingham will be smarting from what was a quite pathetic performance against Barnsley at home, so it might not exactly the walk in the park that many will anticipate. But Albion should nevertheless win reasonably comfortably, with or without CMS.[/p][/quote]It isn't a question of "thinking that a slight sense of fear exists" regarding the likely absence of CMS, or "too many fans are pigeon holing players" We are all aware that the squad is much stronger now than previously. However, in any squad one wants the best player available. Barcelona are a brilliant team, who probably have world class players in reserve, but would you say that they wouldn't miss Messi if he was out injured, or that the opposition wouldn't get a lift by knowing he was unavailable. UTA dave from bexill

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VegasSeagull says...
4:37pm Tue 25 Sep 12

LesBerry wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Bish May Turn. The only chips I work on/with are those I eat, bbq being my fav. Trust me you almost certainly couldn't do what I do. That said, if you have an extensive knowledge of the desert and how it's cycles work then maybe you could. You will also need a very good head for math and be able to spend maybe 10 hours out in the sun with temps reaching 120f or more. Let me know when you want to start. ,
Didn't realise there is an outdoor Macdonalds in Vegas..

Hate MacDonalds in fact hate all fast foods. The one thing you don't need to work at Mac D's is a brain, the computers do it all, so I am told.

Nah I don't work there or in any industry remotely like it.

I am wondering if we might get another silky performance against Birmingham, one simillar to that we dished up against Wednesday.
I odn't see a lot of difference between the two.

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
4:39pm Tue 25 Sep 12

dave from bexill wrote:

PittaPatta wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS. This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options. I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that. If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements. Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .
Agree with you Vegas. There are still too many fans pigeon holing players into only being capable of playing in one, or at the most, two positions. Gus has built his strong squad around their adaptability, as well as their overall skill level. And although this doesn't always equate to obtaining the very best from each and every one of them at all times, it does mean that we are capable of switching and mixing, both before and during play. Dobbie is an attacking midfielder who has been adapted from an out and out striker. Therefore the player is well versed in both roles, and I have no doubts that he will fill the CMS position extremely well come Saturday. Birmingham will be smarting from what was a quite pathetic performance against Barnsley at home, so it might not exactly the walk in the park that many will anticipate. But Albion should nevertheless win reasonably comfortably, with or without CMS.
It isn't a question of "thinking that a slight sense of fear exists" regarding the likely absence of CMS, or "too many fans are pigeon holing players" We are all aware that the squad is much stronger now than previously. However, in any squad one wants the best player available. Barcelona are a brilliant team, who probably have world class players in reserve, but would you say that they wouldn't miss Messi if he was out injured, or that the opposition wouldn't get a lift by knowing he was unavailable. UTA

I can't actually see the 'slight sense of fear' referred to in the above postings. All the comments seem balanced and pragmatic in tone, while simply acknowledging losing CMS while he's on fire isn't what we would chose - nor Gus I assume.

[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PittaPatta[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS. This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options. I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that. If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements. Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .[/p][/quote]Agree with you Vegas. There are still too many fans pigeon holing players into only being capable of playing in one, or at the most, two positions. Gus has built his strong squad around their adaptability, as well as their overall skill level. And although this doesn't always equate to obtaining the very best from each and every one of them at all times, it does mean that we are capable of switching and mixing, both before and during play. Dobbie is an attacking midfielder who has been adapted from an out and out striker. Therefore the player is well versed in both roles, and I have no doubts that he will fill the CMS position extremely well come Saturday. Birmingham will be smarting from what was a quite pathetic performance against Barnsley at home, so it might not exactly the walk in the park that many will anticipate. But Albion should nevertheless win reasonably comfortably, with or without CMS.[/p][/quote]It isn't a question of "thinking that a slight sense of fear exists" regarding the likely absence of CMS, or "too many fans are pigeon holing players" We are all aware that the squad is much stronger now than previously. However, in any squad one wants the best player available. Barcelona are a brilliant team, who probably have world class players in reserve, but would you say that they wouldn't miss Messi if he was out injured, or that the opposition wouldn't get a lift by knowing he was unavailable. UTA[/p][/quote]I can't actually see the 'slight sense of fear' referred to in the above postings. All the comments seem balanced and pragmatic in tone, while simply acknowledging losing CMS while he's on fire isn't what we would chose - nor Gus I assume. Willie, Willie Irvine

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VegasSeagull says...
4:43pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

dave from bexill wrote:
PittaPatta wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS. This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options. I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that. If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements. Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .
Agree with you Vegas. There are still too many fans pigeon holing players into only being capable of playing in one, or at the most, two positions. Gus has built his strong squad around their adaptability, as well as their overall skill level. And although this doesn't always equate to obtaining the very best from each and every one of them at all times, it does mean that we are capable of switching and mixing, both before and during play. Dobbie is an attacking midfielder who has been adapted from an out and out striker. Therefore the player is well versed in both roles, and I have no doubts that he will fill the CMS position extremely well come Saturday. Birmingham will be smarting from what was a quite pathetic performance against Barnsley at home, so it might not exactly the walk in the park that many will anticipate. But Albion should nevertheless win reasonably comfortably, with or without CMS.
It isn't a question of "thinking that a slight sense of fear exists" regarding the likely absence of CMS, or "too many fans are pigeon holing players" We are all aware that the squad is much stronger now than previously. However, in any squad one wants the best player available. Barcelona are a brilliant team, who probably have world class players in reserve, but would you say that they wouldn't miss Messi if he was out injured, or that the opposition wouldn't get a lift by knowing he was unavailable. UTA
I can't actually see the 'slight sense of fear' referred to in the above postings. All the comments seem balanced and pragmatic in tone, while simply acknowledging losing CMS while he's on fire isn't what we would chose - nor Gus I assume.

your probably right

[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PittaPatta[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: When reading all the postings on this thread one can be forgiven for thinking that a slight sense of fear exists with regard to the absense of CMS. This is not last season, Gus has not built a team around one player. We have all said that we have a great squad and one which offers so many options, well now we get to use one of those options. I am sure that all scenarios have been worked out on the training pitch. If player 'A' is out we do this, if both players 'B' and 'C' are out we do that. If CMS does not take the field, and it looks likely he won't then I have no worries at all. Last we everything seemed to focused on Vicente, this year we can handle having a player or two of high quality missing as we have high quality replacements. Birmingham will take a slap on saturday, can't see anything else happening. .[/p][/quote]Agree with you Vegas. There are still too many fans pigeon holing players into only being capable of playing in one, or at the most, two positions. Gus has built his strong squad around their adaptability, as well as their overall skill level. And although this doesn't always equate to obtaining the very best from each and every one of them at all times, it does mean that we are capable of switching and mixing, both before and during play. Dobbie is an attacking midfielder who has been adapted from an out and out striker. Therefore the player is well versed in both roles, and I have no doubts that he will fill the CMS position extremely well come Saturday. Birmingham will be smarting from what was a quite pathetic performance against Barnsley at home, so it might not exactly the walk in the park that many will anticipate. But Albion should nevertheless win reasonably comfortably, with or without CMS.[/p][/quote]It isn't a question of "thinking that a slight sense of fear exists" regarding the likely absence of CMS, or "too many fans are pigeon holing players" We are all aware that the squad is much stronger now than previously. However, in any squad one wants the best player available. Barcelona are a brilliant team, who probably have world class players in reserve, but would you say that they wouldn't miss Messi if he was out injured, or that the opposition wouldn't get a lift by knowing he was unavailable. UTA[/p][/quote]I can't actually see the 'slight sense of fear' referred to in the above postings. All the comments seem balanced and pragmatic in tone, while simply acknowledging losing CMS while he's on fire isn't what we would chose - nor Gus I assume.[/p][/quote]your probably right VegasSeagull

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Hovite says...
4:47pm Tue 25 Sep 12

CMS is great for keeping defenders back and tiring them out so we may miss out on that part of our game.

However this is the time for Dobbie to step up to the plate at home. If he can’t do what CMS does, he may make up for it in other ways. Will be good to see, but I am sure we will have to adapt the way we play without CMS. I don't think he can just simply be replaced.

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
5:02pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:

LesBerry wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Bish May Turn. The only chips I work on/with are those I eat, bbq being my fav. Trust me you almost certainly couldn't do what I do. That said, if you have an extensive knowledge of the desert and how it's cycles work then maybe you could. You will also need a very good head for math and be able to spend maybe 10 hours out in the sun with temps reaching 120f or more. Let me know when you want to start. ,
Didn't realise there is an outdoor Macdonalds in Vegas..
Hate MacDonalds in fact hate all fast foods. The one thing you don't need to work at Mac D's is a brain, the computers do it all, so I am told. Nah I don't work there or in any industry remotely like it. I am wondering if we might get another silky performance against Birmingham, one simillar to that we dished up against Wednesday. I odn't see a lot of difference between the two.

The very best teams always seem to be those which are able to replace players without affecting the shape of the team, the quality of play or the final output. Often that's what makes the opposition look similar on the day because they all fail to stop the juggernaut. If Albion can pull that trick off, I think we can all start to have serious hope for the end of the season.

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VegasSeagull says...
5:04pm Tue 25 Sep 12

One for mother hen.

There comes a time when hero worship has to give way to common sense. Vicente does not play for Brighton, he hasn't all season. To place Vicente on a pedestal for what he did in his prime is one thing, I respect his record, but to put him on a pedestal for what he has done at Brighton is crazy.

There was a time when he was injured when playing abroad, the medical team worked on trying to get him fit but it took forever, just as it is now, Vicente blamed the doctors, can you believe that. I wonder how long it will be before out medical team get the blame for his extended absense.

I know that there are those on here that would be happy just to use him as an, 'impact sub,' someone who might turn a game around, if that is the best he can give us, twenty minutes here and fifteen there, then renegotiate his contract because I am sure that is not what Gus expected and I would guess that the vast majority of the fans didn't.

Vicente is not a hero, he doesn't even have enough games under his belt to be looked at as a vital component of the team. Brighton has a list of players that are worthy of being in the hall of fame, Vicente's hall of fame lies abroad.

I don't know the figures, I am not claiming I do but, I would bet that there are not many on higher wages than he is on. Gus took a gamble bringing him to Brighton, he gambled on his fitness and he lost the bet.

I don't see any midfield player that I would replace with Vicente, not this year. Could he do a job for Brighton, yeah if he could play for 90 minutes, but so could five or six others that can play whole matches.

Cluck cluck.

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dave from bexill says...
5:06pm Tue 25 Sep 12

American Wave said "He(Vegas) shows far more intelligence than many half illiterates who post"
Tha'ts not very nice American Wave and anyway, you know what they say....If the cap fits....

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Hovite says...
5:09pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Cluck off Vegas

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VegasSeagull says...
5:16pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Willie.

For the most part I agree with your post but I also slightly disagree.

I think that when players have to be brought in, thinking only of out attack, we can change our shape and be winners.
I think the whole point of the players Gus has brought in is to allow us to change our shape as needed.

You are right, a seamless exchange of players is desired but only if you are winning. The back four and defensive midfield players must always keep their shape, up front we can change things up depending on the score line.

I think I explained my thoughts correctly, hope so.

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
5:20pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Could we please end these constant references to chicken noises..? I was on my hols in Northern Cyprus a week ago and bizarley the resort had a load of chickens in a coop right opposite our accommodation. Flaming **** (ooh er missus) woke us at 3am every day... Some relaxation that was!

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
5:21pm Tue 25 Sep 12

It seems you cannot mention the male chicken without censorship!

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dave from bexill says...
5:24pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hi Vegas, can you explain 'mother hen' and 'cluck cluck'
Thanks

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dave from bexill says...
5:25pm Tue 25 Sep 12

American Wave said "He(Vegas) shows far more intelligence than many half illiterates who post"
Tha'ts not very nice American Wave and anyway, you know what they say....If the cap fits....

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VegasSeagull says...
5:28pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Could we please end these constant references to chicken noises..? I was on my hols in Northern Cyprus a week ago and bizarley the resort had a load of chickens in a coop right opposite our accommodation. Flaming **** (ooh er missus) woke us at 3am every day... Some relaxation that was!

Love that Willie, that happened to me once.
Northern Cyprus, that's the Turkish side isn't it, I prefer the Greek side and I hate what Turkey did to the island and it's people.

Willie if you had to put a price on the transfer value of Bruno, Bridcutt or Barnes who would be the most valuable in your opinion.

To Brighton I think they are all priceless so which one do you think would be the hardest to replace? Defender, midfield and striker.

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Alfie T says...
5:34pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
Bish May Turn.

The only chips I work on/with are those I eat, bbq being my fav.

Trust me you almost certainly couldn't do what I do. That said, if you have an extensive knowledge of the desert and how it's cycles work then maybe you could. You will also need a very good head for math and be able to spend maybe 10 hours out in the sun with temps reaching 120f or more.

Let me know when you want to start.

,

It obviously affects your sense of humour mate, chill out, thought Bish's quip was very amusing.

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dave from bexill says...
5:36pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
It seems you cannot mention the male chicken without censorship!

rooster/chanticleer

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VegasSeagull says...
5:43pm Tue 25 Sep 12

dave from bexill wrote:
Hi Vegas, can you explain 'mother hen' and 'cluck cluck' Thanks

Dave.

As you know when a hen sees something she doesn't like she gathers her brood to her, surrounding them with her wings as protection.
Likewise when a mother (human) hears nasty things being said to her children, of if they are being teased or bullied, she will draw them to her, put a comforting arm around them, defend them.

When you post certain things on here about a certain player mother hen opens her wings and protests, how dare we speak so of her favorite Brighton son who wears the stripes. She protects and fights off the nasty people.
Mother hen might even resort to calling a poster a word that rhymes with itch as part of that defense.

Cluck cluck, do not mother hens cluck just as roosters crow.

I hope that clears things up for you Dave.

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VegasSeagull says...
5:46pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Alfie T wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Bish May Turn. The only chips I work on/with are those I eat, bbq being my fav. Trust me you almost certainly couldn't do what I do. That said, if you have an extensive knowledge of the desert and how it's cycles work then maybe you could. You will also need a very good head for math and be able to spend maybe 10 hours out in the sun with temps reaching 120f or more. Let me know when you want to start. ,
It obviously affects your sense of humour mate, chill out, thought Bish's quip was very amusing.

so did I, that's why I offered him a job.

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Hovite says...
5:48pm Tue 25 Sep 12

You know a lot about chickens Vegas, is that another of your specialised subjects.

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Hovite says...
5:50pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:

dave from bexill wrote:
Hi Vegas, can you explain 'mother hen' and 'cluck cluck' Thanks
Dave.

As you know when a hen sees something she doesn't like she gathers her brood to her, surrounding them with her wings as protection.
Likewise when a mother (human) hears nasty things being said to her children, of if they are being teased or bullied, she will draw them to her, put a comforting arm around them, defend them.

When you post certain things on here about a certain player mother hen opens her wings and protests, how dare we speak so of her favorite Brighton son who wears the stripes. She protects and fights off the nasty people.
Mother hen might even resort to calling a poster a word that rhymes with itch as part of that defense.

Cluck cluck, do not mother hens cluck just as roosters crow.

I hope that clears things up for you Dave.

,

I didn't call you anything, I said you write like a 81tch

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VegasSeagull says...
5:56pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hovite wrote:
You know a lot about chickens Vegas, is that another of your specialised subjects.

Only the eating of, preferably in my local sports bar whilst drinking a large cold Bud.

12 traditional wings with medium sauce and a basket of potatoe wedges with melted cheddar cheese.

Food and a large beer $13.

A small beer is a pint a large is a pint and a half. On match nights large beers are just $3 each.

The bar has about 35 tvs, of which about 12 are enormous.

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saraman says...
5:59pm Tue 25 Sep 12

I'm bored with this thread. Nothing new to chew over since 0900hrs. Come on Andy, earn your corn. Give us new news. Thank you.

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Hovite says...
6:01pm Tue 25 Sep 12

35 enormous tv's?

Fat transvetites?

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dave from bexill says...
6:01pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Thank you Vegas. It's simply that when I've heard cluck cluck before, it's been in the context of ' cluck cluck, I don't give a f***' and I thought you may have meant that you don't care about other posters views.

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ballantrrae says...
6:05pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
One for mother hen.

There comes a time when hero worship has to give way to common sense. Vicente does not play for Brighton, he hasn't all season. To place Vicente on a pedestal for what he did in his prime is one thing, I respect his record, but to put him on a pedestal for what he has done at Brighton is crazy.

There was a time when he was injured when playing abroad, the medical team worked on trying to get him fit but it took forever, just as it is now, Vicente blamed the doctors, can you believe that. I wonder how long it will be before out medical team get the blame for his extended absense.

I know that there are those on here that would be happy just to use him as an, 'impact sub,' someone who might turn a game around, if that is the best he can give us, twenty minutes here and fifteen there, then renegotiate his contract because I am sure that is not what Gus expected and I would guess that the vast majority of the fans didn't.

Vicente is not a hero, he doesn't even have enough games under his belt to be looked at as a vital component of the team. Brighton has a list of players that are worthy of being in the hall of fame, Vicente's hall of fame lies abroad.

I don't know the figures, I am not claiming I do but, I would bet that there are not many on higher wages than he is on. Gus took a gamble bringing him to Brighton, he gambled on his fitness and he lost the bet.

I don't see any midfield player that I would replace with Vicente, not this year. Could he do a job for Brighton, yeah if he could play for 90 minutes, but so could five or six others that can play whole matches.

Cluck cluck.

VegasSeagull I don't believe Vicente is costing us a fortune - at least not at the moment.
I believe he has some sort of basic salary but the emphasis on how his remuneration is generated is appearance or fitness based.
So the less he plays the less he earns and vice-versa. This means he should be incentivised to be as fit as possible so he that is available for selection.
With his injury track record it certainly would have made sense to have negotiated something along those lines and I think Tony Bloom and Co are certainly smart enough to have potentially done so.
I am sure there will be lots of safeguards on both sides ie if he is fit but not selected then he still gets top dollar etc.

[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: One for mother hen. There comes a time when hero worship has to give way to common sense. Vicente does not play for Brighton, he hasn't all season. To place Vicente on a pedestal for what he did in his prime is one thing, I respect his record, but to put him on a pedestal for what he has done at Brighton is crazy. There was a time when he was injured when playing abroad, the medical team worked on trying to get him fit but it took forever, just as it is now, Vicente blamed the doctors, can you believe that. I wonder how long it will be before out medical team get the blame for his extended absense. I know that there are those on here that would be happy just to use him as an, 'impact sub,' someone who might turn a game around, if that is the best he can give us, twenty minutes here and fifteen there, then renegotiate his contract because I am sure that is not what Gus expected and I would guess that the vast majority of the fans didn't. Vicente is not a hero, he doesn't even have enough games under his belt to be looked at as a vital component of the team. Brighton has a list of players that are worthy of being in the hall of fame, Vicente's hall of fame lies abroad. I don't know the figures, I am not claiming I do but, I would bet that there are not many on higher wages than he is on. Gus took a gamble bringing him to Brighton, he gambled on his fitness and he lost the bet. I don't see any midfield player that I would replace with Vicente, not this year. Could he do a job for Brighton, yeah if he could play for 90 minutes, but so could five or six others that can play whole matches. Cluck cluck.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull I don't believe Vicente is costing us a fortune - at least not at the moment. I believe he has some sort of basic salary but the emphasis on how his remuneration is generated is appearance or fitness based. So the less he plays the less he earns and vice-versa. This means he should be incentivised to be as fit as possible so he that is available for selection. With his injury track record it certainly would have made sense to have negotiated something along those lines and I think Tony Bloom and Co are certainly smart enough to have potentially done so. I am sure there will be lots of safeguards on both sides ie if he is fit but not selected then he still gets top dollar etc. ballantrrae

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VegasSeagull says...
6:07pm Tue 25 Sep 12

More useless facts about where I live.

It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end.

The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing.

It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so.

In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower.

House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000.

None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself.
I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football.

Cluck cluck.

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saraman says...
6:26pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
More useless facts about where I live. It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end. The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing. It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so. In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower. House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000. None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself. I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football. Cluck cluck. .

You're off your trolly or 'issed.

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ballantrrae says...
6:29pm Tue 25 Sep 12

ballantrrae wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
One for mother hen.

There comes a time when hero worship has to give way to common sense. Vicente does not play for Brighton, he hasn't all season. To place Vicente on a pedestal for what he did in his prime is one thing, I respect his record, but to put him on a pedestal for what he has done at Brighton is crazy.

There was a time when he was injured when playing abroad, the medical team worked on trying to get him fit but it took forever, just as it is now, Vicente blamed the doctors, can you believe that. I wonder how long it will be before out medical team get the blame for his extended absense.

I know that there are those on here that would be happy just to use him as an, 'impact sub,' someone who might turn a game around, if that is the best he can give us, twenty minutes here and fifteen there, then renegotiate his contract because I am sure that is not what Gus expected and I would guess that the vast majority of the fans didn't.

Vicente is not a hero, he doesn't even have enough games under his belt to be looked at as a vital component of the team. Brighton has a list of players that are worthy of being in the hall of fame, Vicente's hall of fame lies abroad.

I don't know the figures, I am not claiming I do but, I would bet that there are not many on higher wages than he is on. Gus took a gamble bringing him to Brighton, he gambled on his fitness and he lost the bet.

I don't see any midfield player that I would replace with Vicente, not this year. Could he do a job for Brighton, yeah if he could play for 90 minutes, but so could five or six others that can play whole matches.

Cluck cluck.
VegasSeagull I don't believe Vicente is costing us a fortune - at least not at the moment.
I believe he has some sort of basic salary but the emphasis on how his remuneration is generated is appearance or fitness based.
So the less he plays the less he earns and vice-versa. This means he should be incentivised to be as fit as possible so he that is available for selection.
With his injury track record it certainly would have made sense to have negotiated something along those lines and I think Tony Bloom and Co are certainly smart enough to have potentially done so.
I am sure there will be lots of safeguards on both sides ie if he is fit but not selected then he still gets top dollar etc.

Should read 'so that he is available for selection'. Apologies for the terrible English.

[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: One for mother hen. There comes a time when hero worship has to give way to common sense. Vicente does not play for Brighton, he hasn't all season. To place Vicente on a pedestal for what he did in his prime is one thing, I respect his record, but to put him on a pedestal for what he has done at Brighton is crazy. There was a time when he was injured when playing abroad, the medical team worked on trying to get him fit but it took forever, just as it is now, Vicente blamed the doctors, can you believe that. I wonder how long it will be before out medical team get the blame for his extended absense. I know that there are those on here that would be happy just to use him as an, 'impact sub,' someone who might turn a game around, if that is the best he can give us, twenty minutes here and fifteen there, then renegotiate his contract because I am sure that is not what Gus expected and I would guess that the vast majority of the fans didn't. Vicente is not a hero, he doesn't even have enough games under his belt to be looked at as a vital component of the team. Brighton has a list of players that are worthy of being in the hall of fame, Vicente's hall of fame lies abroad. I don't know the figures, I am not claiming I do but, I would bet that there are not many on higher wages than he is on. Gus took a gamble bringing him to Brighton, he gambled on his fitness and he lost the bet. I don't see any midfield player that I would replace with Vicente, not this year. Could he do a job for Brighton, yeah if he could play for 90 minutes, but so could five or six others that can play whole matches. Cluck cluck.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull I don't believe Vicente is costing us a fortune - at least not at the moment. I believe he has some sort of basic salary but the emphasis on how his remuneration is generated is appearance or fitness based. So the less he plays the less he earns and vice-versa. This means he should be incentivised to be as fit as possible so he that is available for selection. With his injury track record it certainly would have made sense to have negotiated something along those lines and I think Tony Bloom and Co are certainly smart enough to have potentially done so. I am sure there will be lots of safeguards on both sides ie if he is fit but not selected then he still gets top dollar etc.[/p][/quote]Should read 'so that he is available for selection'. Apologies for the terrible English. ballantrrae

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VegasSeagull says...
6:29pm Tue 25 Sep 12

ballantrrae wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: One for mother hen. There comes a time when hero worship has to give way to common sense. Vicente does not play for Brighton, he hasn't all season. To place Vicente on a pedestal for what he did in his prime is one thing, I respect his record, but to put him on a pedestal for what he has done at Brighton is crazy. There was a time when he was injured when playing abroad, the medical team worked on trying to get him fit but it took forever, just as it is now, Vicente blamed the doctors, can you believe that. I wonder how long it will be before out medical team get the blame for his extended absense. I know that there are those on here that would be happy just to use him as an, 'impact sub,' someone who might turn a game around, if that is the best he can give us, twenty minutes here and fifteen there, then renegotiate his contract because I am sure that is not what Gus expected and I would guess that the vast majority of the fans didn't. Vicente is not a hero, he doesn't even have enough games under his belt to be looked at as a vital component of the team. Brighton has a list of players that are worthy of being in the hall of fame, Vicente's hall of fame lies abroad. I don't know the figures, I am not claiming I do but, I would bet that there are not many on higher wages than he is on. Gus took a gamble bringing him to Brighton, he gambled on his fitness and he lost the bet. I don't see any midfield player that I would replace with Vicente, not this year. Could he do a job for Brighton, yeah if he could play for 90 minutes, but so could five or six others that can play whole matches. Cluck cluck.
VegasSeagull I don't believe Vicente is costing us a fortune - at least not at the moment. I believe he has some sort of basic salary but the emphasis on how his remuneration is generated is appearance or fitness based. So the less he plays the less he earns and vice-versa. This means he should be incentivised to be as fit as possible so he that is available for selection. With his injury track record it certainly would have made sense to have negotiated something along those lines and I think Tony Bloom and Co are certainly smart enough to have potentially done so. I am sure there will be lots of safeguards on both sides ie if he is fit but not selected then he still gets top dollar etc.

I hope that you are right for that would be good business management.

[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: One for mother hen. There comes a time when hero worship has to give way to common sense. Vicente does not play for Brighton, he hasn't all season. To place Vicente on a pedestal for what he did in his prime is one thing, I respect his record, but to put him on a pedestal for what he has done at Brighton is crazy. There was a time when he was injured when playing abroad, the medical team worked on trying to get him fit but it took forever, just as it is now, Vicente blamed the doctors, can you believe that. I wonder how long it will be before out medical team get the blame for his extended absense. I know that there are those on here that would be happy just to use him as an, 'impact sub,' someone who might turn a game around, if that is the best he can give us, twenty minutes here and fifteen there, then renegotiate his contract because I am sure that is not what Gus expected and I would guess that the vast majority of the fans didn't. Vicente is not a hero, he doesn't even have enough games under his belt to be looked at as a vital component of the team. Brighton has a list of players that are worthy of being in the hall of fame, Vicente's hall of fame lies abroad. I don't know the figures, I am not claiming I do but, I would bet that there are not many on higher wages than he is on. Gus took a gamble bringing him to Brighton, he gambled on his fitness and he lost the bet. I don't see any midfield player that I would replace with Vicente, not this year. Could he do a job for Brighton, yeah if he could play for 90 minutes, but so could five or six others that can play whole matches. Cluck cluck.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull I don't believe Vicente is costing us a fortune - at least not at the moment. I believe he has some sort of basic salary but the emphasis on how his remuneration is generated is appearance or fitness based. So the less he plays the less he earns and vice-versa. This means he should be incentivised to be as fit as possible so he that is available for selection. With his injury track record it certainly would have made sense to have negotiated something along those lines and I think Tony Bloom and Co are certainly smart enough to have potentially done so. I am sure there will be lots of safeguards on both sides ie if he is fit but not selected then he still gets top dollar etc.[/p][/quote]I hope that you are right for that would be good business management. VegasSeagull

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Alfie T says...
6:31pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
More useless facts about where I live.

It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end.

The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing.

It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so.

In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower.

House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000.

None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself.
I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football.

Cluck cluck.

.

Quite interesting really Vegas, went there myself three times in the mid ninety's, loved it, stayed in the Tropicana, the Sands,and I think El-rancho if I remember correctly. Did the Canyon and lots of shows, saw David Copperfield which was fantastic, the Americans know how to entertain. Probably changed lots since then?

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VegasSeagull says...
6:33pm Tue 25 Sep 12

saraman wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: More useless facts about where I live. It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end. The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing. It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so. In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower. House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000. None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself. I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football. Cluck cluck. .
You're off your trolly or 'issed.

or bored

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VegasSeagull says...
6:37pm Tue 25 Sep 12

This thread has died a death.

How about one of you lot coming up with your own headline and let's have at it.
Someone please offer something new.

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VegasSeagull says...
6:46pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Alfie T wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: More useless facts about where I live. It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end. The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing. It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so. In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower. House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000. None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself. I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football. Cluck cluck. .
Quite interesting really Vegas, went there myself three times in the mid ninety's, loved it, stayed in the Tropicana, the Sands,and I think El-rancho if I remember correctly. Did the Canyon and lots of shows, saw David Copperfield which was fantastic, the Americans know how to entertain. Probably changed lots since then?

Alfie, I could tell/remind you of so much more but you know I would get hit on the head for doing so, even though the thread is dead.

One little sports related snippit. There is not one single professional sports team in Vegas. Not american football, basket ball or base ball, we do have a feeder baseball team, and no soccor team.

Most think the reason for that is the heat but it isn't, it's all about honesty in sports.

The powers that be in the major sports are all scared of match fixing and Vegas still bares the scars of the mob.

There have been attempts to get a basket ball team located here but they have all failed. We do have a Nazcar circuit, motorcycle racing and drag racing.

.

[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: More useless facts about where I live. It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end. The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing. It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so. In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower. House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000. None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself. I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football. Cluck cluck. .[/p][/quote]Quite interesting really Vegas, went there myself three times in the mid ninety's, loved it, stayed in the Tropicana, the Sands,and I think El-rancho if I remember correctly. Did the Canyon and lots of shows, saw David Copperfield which was fantastic, the Americans know how to entertain. Probably changed lots since then?[/p][/quote]Alfie, I could tell/remind you of so much more but you know I would get hit on the head for doing so, even though the thread is dead. One little sports related snippit. There is not one single professional sports team in Vegas. Not american football, basket ball or base ball, we do have a feeder baseball team, and no soccor team. Most think the reason for that is the heat but it isn't, it's all about honesty in sports. The powers that be in the major sports are all scared of match fixing and Vegas still bares the scars of the mob. There have been attempts to get a basket ball team located here but they have all failed. We do have a Nazcar circuit, motorcycle racing and drag racing. . VegasSeagull

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Baldseagull says...
6:56pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
This thread has died a death.

How about one of you lot coming up with your own headline and let's have at it.
Someone please offer something new.

You killed it.

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Alfie T says...
6:58pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: More useless facts about where I live. It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end. The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing. It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so. In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower. House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000. None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself. I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football. Cluck cluck. .
Quite interesting really Vegas, went there myself three times in the mid ninety's, loved it, stayed in the Tropicana, the Sands,and I think El-rancho if I remember correctly. Did the Canyon and lots of shows, saw David Copperfield which was fantastic, the Americans know how to entertain. Probably changed lots since then?
Alfie, I could tell/remind you of so much more but you know I would get hit on the head for doing so, even though the thread is dead.

One little sports related snippit. There is not one single professional sports team in Vegas. Not american football, basket ball or base ball, we do have a feeder baseball team, and no soccor team.

Most think the reason for that is the heat but it isn't, it's all about honesty in sports.

The powers that be in the major sports are all scared of match fixing and Vegas still bares the scars of the mob.

There have been attempts to get a basket ball team located here but they have all failed. We do have a Nazcar circuit, motorcycle racing and drag racing.

.

A friend of mine goes to Vegas every year with a pal to play his version of the Ryder Cup against a couple of Yank associates. Gets a limo to one course which is very exclusive,says its the best course he's ever played, on my list to do one day.

[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: More useless facts about where I live. It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end. The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing. It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so. In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower. House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000. None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself. I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football. Cluck cluck. .[/p][/quote]Quite interesting really Vegas, went there myself three times in the mid ninety's, loved it, stayed in the Tropicana, the Sands,and I think El-rancho if I remember correctly. Did the Canyon and lots of shows, saw David Copperfield which was fantastic, the Americans know how to entertain. Probably changed lots since then?[/p][/quote]Alfie, I could tell/remind you of so much more but you know I would get hit on the head for doing so, even though the thread is dead. One little sports related snippit. There is not one single professional sports team in Vegas. Not american football, basket ball or base ball, we do have a feeder baseball team, and no soccor team. Most think the reason for that is the heat but it isn't, it's all about honesty in sports. The powers that be in the major sports are all scared of match fixing and Vegas still bares the scars of the mob. There have been attempts to get a basket ball team located here but they have all failed. We do have a Nazcar circuit, motorcycle racing and drag racing. .[/p][/quote]A friend of mine goes to Vegas every year with a pal to play his version of the Ryder Cup against a couple of Yank associates. Gets a limo to one course which is very exclusive,says its the best course he's ever played, on my list to do one day. Alfie T

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VegasSeagull says...
7:03pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Baldseagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: This thread has died a death. How about one of you lot coming up with your own headline and let's have at it. Someone please offer something new.
You killed it.

Of course I did Baldseagull and the tooth fairy really does exist. Are you cheering for Hammond yet, or are you still under your rock.

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VegasSeagull says...
7:13pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Alfie some fo the golf courses here are amazing, the use of water and the general landscaping is something to be seen.
I think I am right in saying that the major hotels put together some sort of water saving plan, the idea being that the saved water could be used on the courses. Golf courses fill hotel rooms.

I have seen just about every top course there in and around Vegas, I don't play but I can do business in and around them.

There are a lot of golf community housing courses here too.

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wiseman of hove says...
7:19pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Does anybody have any news on 'Hosko's' fitness?

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VegasSeagull says...
7:25pm Tue 25 Sep 12

I pity people such as Baldseagull. Not one offering today other than to say I killed this thread.
It must be very hard to get through a day without having a constructive thought or opinion. If person's life is so empty that the only thing he can do is to write such a childish comment, then I think we should all pity him his sad existence.

Many on here get annoyed with me, that's ok. Many on here take cheap shots, that's ok too, I will always come back stronger, but even these people offer contributions that don't take a pop at me.
The sad ones well they just sit in the shadows, not an individual thought in their head. Nothing, just an empty void.

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Hugo-Worthing says...
7:33pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Think Vegas Seagull should actually get a life....he certainly does love the sound of his own voice (words)
Does he do anything other than spout off on here?

Thinks he is the oracle of all things Albion.....but he most certainly is not

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Alfie T says...
7:48pm Tue 25 Sep 12

wiseman of hove wrote:
Does anybody have any news on 'Hosko's' fitness?

No news that I'm aware of, a very frustrating time for both club and player,wonder if we will ever see his true potential in the blue and white stripes. Starting to get that buzz for Saturday now, can't come quick enough, will be interesting to see how Brum will react to that embarrassing home defeat.

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VegasSeagull says...
7:51pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Hugo-Worthing wrote:
Think Vegas Seagull should actually get a life....he certainly does love the sound of his own voice (words) Does he do anything other than spout off on here? Thinks he is the oracle of all things Albion.....but he most certainly is not

Another sad soul lost in his/her own world of emptyness.

There are about five or six such souls on here, they say nothing and then pop up with a put down, and then nothing again.

Can you imagine what it would be like if they ever got together in a pub. There they would sit around the table, staring blankly into their beer glasses, silence rules. Suddenly one moves as though to speak, the others wait with bated breath, but no, nothing comes to his mind, silence rules once again.

It's so sad.

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VegasSeagull says...
7:55pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Alfie T wrote:

wiseman of hove wrote: Does anybody have any news on 'Hosko's' fitness?
No news that I'm aware of, a very frustrating time for both club and player,wonder if we will ever see his true potential in the blue and white stripes. Starting to get that buzz for Saturday now, can't come quick enough, will be interesting to see how Brum will react to that embarrassing home defeat.

Not sure where I read it but something tells me that he is about to get back to full training, I could be wrong. I seem to think that I read it along with the news about Vicente getting into training after the Birmingham match.

I just scoured a whole bunch of sites that I visit and didn't find the article, maybe I was dreaming.

Andy Naylor might know.

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
8:21pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Could we please end these constant references to chicken noises..? I was on my hols in Northern Cyprus a week ago and bizarley the resort had a load of chickens in a coop right opposite our accommodation. Flaming **** (ooh er missus) woke us at 3am every day... Some relaxation that was!
Love that Willie, that happened to me once.
Northern Cyprus, that's the Turkish side isn't it, I prefer the Greek side and I hate what Turkey did to the island and it's people.

Willie if you had to put a price on the transfer value of Bruno, Bridcutt or Barnes who would be the most valuable in your opinion.

To Brighton I think they are all priceless so which one do you think would be the hardest to replace? Defender, midfield and striker.

.

Bruno tops at present in that he brings another dimension to Albion - he oozes class and is the complete package, as one would expect at his age. Both Bridcutt and Barnes,although brilliant and effective in their own way, are still developing and their 'worth' to the club will only increase if they keep on improving.

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Willie, Willie Irvine says...
8:28pm Tue 25 Sep 12

dave from bexill wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
It seems you cannot mention the male chicken without censorship!
rooster/chanticleer

Fair enough Dave. However, flaming chanticler doesn't have quite the same double-entendre value as flaming cok, does it..?

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Alfie T says...
8:39pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Could we please end these constant references to chicken noises..? I was on my hols in Northern Cyprus a week ago and bizarley the resort had a load of chickens in a coop right opposite our accommodation. Flaming **** (ooh er missus) woke us at 3am every day... Some relaxation that was!
Love that Willie, that happened to me once.
Northern Cyprus, that's the Turkish side isn't it, I prefer the Greek side and I hate what Turkey did to the island and it's people.

Willie if you had to put a price on the transfer value of Bruno, Bridcutt or Barnes who would be the most valuable in your opinion.

To Brighton I think they are all priceless so which one do you think would be the hardest to replace? Defender, midfield and striker.

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Bruno tops at present in that he brings another dimension to Albion - he oozes class and is the complete package, as one would expect at his age. Both Bridcutt and Barnes,although brilliant and effective in their own way, are still developing and their 'worth' to the club will only increase if they keep on improving.

Willie, although I'm warming to Barnes and appreciate what he gives the team,I wouldn't describe him as brilliant. Bridcutt on the other hand unquestionably is brilliant, player of the season last year and getting better by the match. Agree about Bruno, different gravy so far.

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hannover seagull says...
8:42pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Vegas
You have turned this comment site into a Twatter site
Although you seem to have some grasp on current matters at the club your constant ramblings and need for attention ie replying to every post is running a bit thin

Remember sometimes less is more

UTA.................

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Cabin fever says...
8:51pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Is VS actually posting anything of interest? Contoversial but I'd prefer HPR back.

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Baldseagull says...
8:52pm Tue 25 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
I pity people such as Baldseagull. Not one offering today other than to say I killed this thread.
It must be very hard to get through a day without having a constructive thought or opinion. If person's life is so empty that the only thing he can do is to write such a childish comment, then I think we should all pity him his sad existence.

Many on here get annoyed with me, that's ok. Many on here take cheap shots, that's ok too, I will always come back stronger, but even these people offer contributions that don't take a pop at me.
The sad ones well they just sit in the shadows, not an individual thought in their head. Nothing, just an empty void.

,

To spend all day, every day generating stats and regurgitating second hand opinion on a team you've never actually seen, and so often that you are the author of most of the posts on any given story, now that is sad.

I'm off down the pub now to discuss Nietzsche's thoughts on religion, or maybe just check out the jugs on the barmaid, with Hugo of Worthing.

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Hovite says...
9:01pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Cabin fever wrote:
Is VS actually posting anything of interest? Contoversial but I'd prefer HPR back.

That had crossed my mind, maybe he is back?

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PressBoxTeaBoy says...
9:54pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Its all getting a tad sad this site. 106 comments posted on a mid week say nothing article, and I think 50% of them posted by one contributor trying to drum up a circle of friends.
I'll head on back to the Echo site, at least their version of brainless comments have a vile and offensive theme to keep them lively, and no comments from anyone in Vegas.

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VegasSeagull says...
11:53pm Tue 25 Sep 12

I see the nursing home has given the old codgers just one more entry before they get tucked up in bed.
So warming to know that they are well cared for.

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albionbloke says...
5:32am Wed 26 Sep 12

Hugo-Worthing wrote:
Think Vegas Seagull should actually get a life....he certainly does love the sound of his own voice (words)
Does he do anything other than spout off on here?

Thinks he is the oracle of all things Albion.....but he most certainly is not

Exactly the conclusion I had come to. Really loves to hear/read himself. I used to enjoy his posts when he first showed up but far too much for my interest any longer.

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Jonathan Mouette says...
5:50am Wed 26 Sep 12

OMG (and not GMO, which I think some of you guys are on...!) this is really uninspiring. So here's something a little more interesting to be thinking about. A recent piece on Clubcall mentioned that the latest Braga (Portugal) home game had attracted scouts from the following 3 clubs. Man Utd, Man City and... Brighton. So, do something useful - even if it is only speculation - and identify the Brighton target... By the way Braga were playing against Rio Ave... Apparently Utd and City may have interest in Braga's Portuguese winger Barbosa and the Brazilian left back Ismailly... and us? Mouth watering isn't it.

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dave from bexill says...
8:02am Wed 26 Sep 12

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

dave from bexill wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
It seems you cannot mention the male chicken without censorship!
rooster/chanticleer
Fair enough Dave. However, flaming chanticler doesn't have quite the same double-entendre value as flaming cok, does it..?

You're right Willie." Flaming ****"
Reminds me ,I must make an appointment at the clinic.

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PittaPatta says...
8:27am Wed 26 Sep 12

dave from bexill wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

dave from bexill wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
It seems you cannot mention the male chicken without censorship!
rooster/chanticleer
Fair enough Dave. However, flaming chanticler doesn't have quite the same double-entendre value as flaming cok, does it..?
You're right Willie." Flaming ****"
Reminds me ,I must make an appointment at the clinic.

Were Albion to sign Nigel Reo Cocker, would this cause any problems I wonder.

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PittaPatta says...
8:29am Wed 26 Sep 12

Seems not, and he can bring his cocker spaniel with him as well.

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saraman says...
9:18am Wed 26 Sep 12

Todays Argus states that CMS to miss the next two matches. Come on Andy why haven't you posted on here yet. Nothing new for 24 hours now.

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tug509 says...
9:28am Wed 26 Sep 12

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
OMG (and not GMO, which I think some of you guys are on...!) this is really uninspiring. So here's something a little more interesting to be thinking about. A recent piece on Clubcall mentioned that the latest Braga (Portugal) home game had attracted scouts from the following 3 clubs. Man Utd, Man City and... Brighton. So, do something useful - even if it is only speculation - and identify the Brighton target... By the way Braga were playing against Rio Ave... Apparently Utd and City may have interest in Braga's Portuguese winger Barbosa and the Brazilian left back Ismailly... and us? Mouth watering isn't it.

Now that is worth hearing about,so come on Argus check it out!UTA

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Too many Harveys says...
10:25am Wed 26 Sep 12

Baldseagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
I pity people such as Baldseagull. Not one offering today other than to say I killed this thread.
It must be very hard to get through a day without having a constructive thought or opinion. If person's life is so empty that the only thing he can do is to write such a childish comment, then I think we should all pity him his sad existence.

Many on here get annoyed with me, that's ok. Many on here take cheap shots, that's ok too, I will always come back stronger, but even these people offer contributions that don't take a pop at me.
The sad ones well they just sit in the shadows, not an individual thought in their head. Nothing, just an empty void.

,
To spend all day, every day generating stats and regurgitating second hand opinion on a team you've never actually seen, and so often that you are the author of most of the posts on any given story, now that is sad.

I'm off down the pub now to discuss Nietzsche's thoughts on religion, or maybe just check out the jugs on the barmaid, with Hugo of Worthing.

LOL - nice one BS. My interest in VegasSeagull is wondering what he did before he started posting on here a couple of months ago?! He clearly has been in the good old US of A for a long time due to his use of American parlance and apparent irony detector bypass and in fairness he certainly seems to be a true Albion fan, so where has he suddenly sprung from? In the main VS I enjoy your posts when a thread starts and they are relevant but surely once the topic has been talked through it’s time to turn off the laptop and pick up a book/talk to your wife/check out the TVs (whether with or without big jugs…) in the Sports bar? Your constant comments once the thread has abated does rather smack of someone with nothing else to do and that I’m afraid is a little sad. Debate is always devalued by a dominant voice, so as others have said less is sometimes more.

[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I pity people such as Baldseagull. Not one offering today other than to say I killed this thread. It must be very hard to get through a day without having a constructive thought or opinion. If person's life is so empty that the only thing he can do is to write such a childish comment, then I think we should all pity him his sad existence. Many on here get annoyed with me, that's ok. Many on here take cheap shots, that's ok too, I will always come back stronger, but even these people offer contributions that don't take a pop at me. The sad ones well they just sit in the shadows, not an individual thought in their head. Nothing, just an empty void. ,[/p][/quote]To spend all day, every day generating stats and regurgitating second hand opinion on a team you've never actually seen, and so often that you are the author of most of the posts on any given story, now that is sad. I'm off down the pub now to discuss Nietzsche's thoughts on religion, or maybe just check out the jugs on the barmaid, with Hugo of Worthing.[/p][/quote]LOL - nice one BS. My interest in VegasSeagull is wondering what he did before he started posting on here a couple of months ago?! He clearly has been in the good old US of A for a long time due to his use of American parlance and apparent irony detector bypass and in fairness he certainly seems to be a true Albion fan, so where has he suddenly sprung from? In the main VS I enjoy your posts when a thread starts and they are relevant but surely once the topic has been talked through it’s time to turn off the laptop and pick up a book/talk to your wife/check out the TVs (whether with or without big jugs…) in the Sports bar? Your constant comments once the thread has abated does rather smack of someone with nothing else to do and that I’m afraid is a little sad. Debate is always devalued by a dominant voice, so as others have said less is sometimes more. Too many Harveys

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pappaK says...
6:15pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Is VegasSeagull actually where he say`s he`s posting from or closer to the Amex, seeing he is 9 hours behind us,Vegas time,he seems to know how everyone played.Perhaps he`s flushed with money and flies over every match day in his private jet.I think RHP is his call sign.

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wiltshire seagull says...
9:36pm Thu 27 Sep 12

VegasSeagull wrote:
More useless facts about where I live.

It's hot, not for the whole year but for a lot of it. When the heat comes, anything above 95 degrees, it only gets hotter and can, and often does, climb to 120f. Summer, or what you would call summer, hot and sunny, lasts for months on end.

The nearest casino to my house is about 3 minutes away by car, but that's probably true for all housing.

It's the desert, water is at a premium, if you have grass in your front yard and agree to remove it, the local water authority will pay you $2 per square foot as a reward for doing so.

In the summer the water from the cold tap is never cold, mildly warm would describe it, warm enough for a shower.

House values have hit the floor, a property that would have once sold for $250,000 can now be bought for about $80,000.

None of you are interested in this post and if you wanted to know what I ahve told you, you could have looked it up yourself.
I should not write on a football forum about things that are not football.

Cluck cluck.

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Enough already with the cluck cluck. We all get the point, mate........

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