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Sussex lead Joyce race

12:25am Thursday 16th October 2008 in Cricket News By Bruce Talbot

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Sussex have emerged as favourites to sign Ed Joyce.

The 30-year-old is leaving Middlesex after the Twenty20 winners take part in the Champions Trophy in December.

Nottinghamshire, Warwickshire, Surrey and Hampshire are also keen on Dublin-born Joyce, who has played 17 one-day internationals for England.

Joyce is believed to favour Sussex because he has been impressed with the coaching set-up and work ethic at Hove. No announcement will be made until the new year, when Joyce’s contract expires.

Joyce has a first-class average of 44.87 and has scored nearly 9,000 runs including 19 hundreds since making his Middlesex debut in 1997. He would probably bat at No. 3, which has been a troublesome position for Sussex in the recent past. Last season six players batted there – new captain Mike Yardy, his predecessor Chris Adams, Luke Wright, Michael Thornely, Andrew Hodd and Carl Hopkinson.

Joyce has a good one-day record, averaging 33.87. The highlight of his career so far was his hundred against Australia in Sydney in 2007 when England won the triangular series.

Sussex coach Mark Robinson refused to confirm that the club had approached Joyce, who is out of contract at the end of the year.

He said: “We don’t comment about individuals but we are always interested in bringing quality players to Sussex.”

Would Ed Joyce be a good signing?

Comments(37)

McKenzie says...
9:38am Thu 16 Oct 08

This would be a fantastic signing for our county. Find an opener and a fast bowler and we'll be alright.

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Zamora25 says...
1:33pm Thu 16 Oct 08

McKenzie - I think you will find Joyce is being signed so that Yardy can continue opening the batting next season with Nash.

An overseas seamer is an absolute must!

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Yorkshire Man says...
2:22pm Thu 16 Oct 08

I'm reet glad that you have decided to strengthen up after Yorky allowed you draw your last match and stay up.
Thou needs an overseas fast bowler and a kolpak fast bowler as well as Joyce to have any chance of giving us a game next season.
It's a start thought that thou is going to spend some brass on new players.

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E Bygumm says...
6:37pm Thu 16 Oct 08

Clearly another sad reflection on the Acadamy's inability to produce the right players at the right time.
Also on the quick bowler front, who was the last quick bowler to come out of the Acadamy? Now that'll be ...........

Come on you imports!!!

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E Bygumm says...
6:39pm Thu 16 Oct 08

A solution to the Ed Joyce issue - get Jeremy Green back on the staff - oh but wait a mo - his dad's not Chairman any more is he!!

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Zamora25 says...
6:52pm Thu 16 Oct 08

Jeremy Green? How on earth did he play so many games for 2XI? He was useless!

In Beeny, Gould, Piolet and England Under 18 pair Matt Machan and Luke Wells we have several promising batsmen in 2XI.

The same can not really be said of the seam bowling department where only Adkin, Rollings and Thorpe appeared for 2XI and Adkin finished the top wicket taker of the three with four wickets from three games! Adkin, Rollings and Hatchett are all due to graduate from the Academy but unfortunately none of them are ready to make the step up.

We have another highly promising wicketkeeper-batsmen in the Academy.

We haven't produced a seam bowler out of the Academy since the mid-nineties when we produced Lewry, Kirtley and Martin-Jenkins.

Kolpak seamer? Is 2 Kolpak seamers and a Kolpak batsmen not enough!

Yorkshireman I wouldn't be so cocky you only just stayed up last season by the skin of your teeth!

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bobbyfrombognor says...
7:42pm Thu 16 Oct 08

The academy wont produce any fast bowlers because their are no mines in sussex you daft yorkshire apath

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GarryNelson'sLeftFoot says...
8:51pm Thu 16 Oct 08

Ed Joyce? But what happened to the Ramps joining Sussex story? As I said then, Ramps would be a good addition to the squad as he's great at swearing and dancing so a must for a night out on the toon in B'ton. Can Ed Joyce dance as well as Ramps? I fear not. Does anyone else know any cricketers who have other skills that would liven up an otherwise c rap night out?

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Zamora25 says...
9:01pm Thu 16 Oct 08

Ramps joining story was complete ****.

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GarryNelson'sLeftFoot says...
9:05pm Thu 16 Oct 08

Totally agree Zamora. It'll be Tendulkar and Ricky Ponting next!

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superseagulls says...
10:45pm Thu 16 Oct 08

Zamora25 wrote:
Jeremy Green? How on earth did he play so many games for 2XI? He was useless! In Beeny, Gould, Piolet and England Under 18 pair Matt Machan and Luke Wells we have several promising batsmen in 2XI. The same can not really be said of the seam bowling department where only Adkin, Rollings and Thorpe appeared for 2XI and Adkin finished the top wicket taker of the three with four wickets from three games! Adkin, Rollings and Hatchett are all due to graduate from the Academy but unfortunately none of them are ready to make the step up. We have another highly promising wicketkeeper-batsmen in the Academy. We haven't produced a seam bowler out of the Academy since the mid-nineties when we produced Lewry, Kirtley and Martin-Jenkins. Kolpak seamer? Is 2 Kolpak seamers and a Kolpak batsmen not enough! Yorkshireman I wouldn't be so cocky you only just stayed up last season by the skin of your teeth!
Piolet now plays for Warwickshire because Sussex wouldn't pay him enough

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Stonewaller says...
10:50pm Thu 16 Oct 08

bobbyfrombognor wrote:
No wonder that clown Robinson wont comment on Joyce coming to sussex. Its about as likely as the committee getting off its complacent backside and doing something about the disgraceful Faschist Memorial Stand.
Oh dear.

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Zamora25 says...
8:13am Fri 17 Oct 08

Superseagulls - Sussex won't pay him enough? I wasn't even aware Sussex had in fact offered him a contract!

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Yorkshire Man says...
9:16am Fri 17 Oct 08

Now Zomora25 old pal. Thou bowling is a bit long in the tooth thou knows.
Thou needs overseas bowler, Sami or someone else fast as like. Then a new fast kolpak bowler to replace Collymore.
You will be a Dad's Army without these two next year and go down and I will miss my summer holidays to Hove.

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teddie says...
12:13pm Fri 17 Oct 08

coming back to the origanol thread,joyce would be a good signing hes a proven batsman so if it happens great.On a fast bowler sami has to be in pole position but we wont know anything till new year no doubt.

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Zamora25 says...
1:58pm Fri 17 Oct 08

Who says Collymore is going? I don't disagree with you that Lewry, Kirtley and Martin-Jenkins are getting on a bit however they are still because we haven't brought anyone through the Academy and the players we have signed (Collymore, Smith, Wright, Aga and Liddle) haven't been good enough!

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Yorkshire Man says...
2:23pm Fri 17 Oct 08

Zamora25, Collymore didn't play the last two county games and they were the two when you needed to pick your best team. Aren't Collymore and Kirtley out of contract now?
Thou needs two fast bowlers next year pal?

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Zamora25 says...
6:54pm Fri 17 Oct 08

If it were up to me I wouldn't be renewing Kirtley or Collymore contract as I believe capped players should be good enough to make the starting XI! The fact that neither player the last two games shows they are not good enough. However, I'm not sure Robbo will see it like this. I would offer Adams CEO position to dig us out of the hole we have put ourselves in by offering him a three year contract in 2006. Adams is a shadow of the batsman he once was and is a liability in the field. His value to Sussex was as captain. From a longer term perspective he cannot keep out Hopkinson next season!

I think we could do with two proven seamers (one overseas) to play alongisde Lewry, Martin-Jenkins and Rayner. However, for this to happen two seamers probably need to go.

My starting XI for next season:

Yardy (c), Nash, Joyce, Goodwin, Hopkinson, Hodd (+), Martin-Jenkins, New seamer, Rayner, Sami, Lewry

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Yorkshire Man says...
7:11pm Fri 17 Oct 08

Zamora 25, reet glad you agree that side need two quicks. Up here team is called Mushy and the Trundlers.
That's not good Friend.
bye now

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GarryNelson'sLeftFoot says...
7:20pm Fri 17 Oct 08

Yorkshire Man. Remind us all - what have the Yorkie Puds won in the last five years? Three championships, one C&G and a Pro40 title wasn't it? Oh no my mistake. That was Sussex.

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Yorkshire Man says...
7:43pm Fri 17 Oct 08

GNLF, I would remind you that we have won County Championship thirty-four times in all.I can't list out all the cups we've won - there's just two many!
After next season that will be thirty-five as well.Reet grand team we are thou knows!

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GarryNelson'sLeftFoot says...
8:34pm Fri 17 Oct 08

Alreet Yorkie. Point taken. And as the Leeds fans were nice to me when I went to watch the mighty seagulls at Elland Rd, I'll forgive you. But you've got to admit, the Sussex cricket lads have done pretty well for a 'small' club over the last few years.

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ChrisFromHassocks says...
8:43pm Fri 17 Oct 08

I'll believe it when I see it!

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Yorkshire Man says...
9:05pm Fri 17 Oct 08

GNLF,Sussex have done reet grand in last five years. Sometimes you have to change team though to stay oop at the top thou knows.


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Stonewaller says...
11:53pm Fri 17 Oct 08

ChrisFromHassocks wrote:
I'll believe it when I see it!
In other words you hope we don't sign him....same as you hoped we'd get relegated. How are those wounds by the way ? Well licked ?

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Stonewaller says...
11:55pm Fri 17 Oct 08

Zamora25 wrote:
If it were up to me I wouldn't be renewing Kirtley or Collymore contract as I believe capped players should be good enough to make the starting XI! The fact that neither player the last two games shows they are not good enough. However, I'm not sure Robbo will see it like this. I would offer Adams CEO position to dig us out of the hole we have put ourselves in by offering him a three year contract in 2006. Adams is a shadow of the batsman he once was and is a liability in the field. His value to Sussex was as captain. From a longer term perspective he cannot keep out Hopkinson next season! I think we could do with two proven seamers (one overseas) to play alongisde Lewry, Martin-Jenkins and Rayner. However, for this to happen two seamers probably need to go. My starting XI for next season: Yardy (c), Nash, Joyce, Goodwin, Hopkinson, Hodd (+), Martin-Jenkins, New seamer, Rayner, Sami, Lewry
"dig us out of the hole we have put ourselves in by offering him a three year contract in 2006" - just repetition of the same rubbish on the Sussex and Middlesex boards.

I mean it was soooo obvious that in the winter of 2006 he was going to have an off-year in 2008.

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Stonewaller says...
12:09am Sat 18 Oct 08

As for Collymore not being good enough, he was left out due to a change of mind literally 5 minutes before the teams have to be submitted up at Durham, in favour of your favourite Rayner.

Hardly makes him not good enough....and to say that about Kirtley is your usual inconsistent rubbish, as last winter you were saying we didn't need to replace Rana because Kirtley had taken 900 wickets in his career.

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guru1 says...
10:25am Sat 18 Oct 08

If Sussex can pull this one off it will be a top notch signing believe me. Yes we are having to spend to bring quality into those areas not covered by our own emerging talent. This happens from time to time and to be fair the academy has not done a bad job supplying Sussex with many talented young cricketers. Two thirds of our squad are home produced and were we to carry a larger squad that percentage would rise still higher. Yes we haven't produced a decent fast bowler since Kirtley, Lewry and Giddins but these things seem to go in cycles. At the moment the academy seems to be turning out a healthy supply of young spinners. So look at the Yorkies seemingly able to uncover good fast bowlers at the drop of a hat but cannot produce a decent wicketkeeper worth his salt, while we on the other hand have produced an endless supply of quality stumpers. Thats the way it goes Im afraid, I'm just pleased Sussex are filling the gaps with genuine quality and not as has happened in the past, a plethora of sub standard county cast offs. I like the direction the club is taking and I would be more than happy with Ed Joyce.

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Zamora25 says...
1:32pm Sat 18 Oct 08

Stonewaller - To have gone without a spinner in a four day game would have been complete madness as you don't know what the wicket is going to do over the next four days! In the end Durham played TWO SPINNERS!

As for Collymore if he was good enough he would have played ahead of Luke Wright (11 wickets @ 62).

As for Adams, he was 36 when the contract offer was made! No one in their right mind would have offered a 3 year contract to 36 year old!

As for Kirtley, he had the chance to replace Rana and wasn't good enough to do so. His performances last season were disappointing after 50 wickets in 2006 and 2007.

Guru - I agree with you what you say about Joyce it's just a little disappointing as we have England Under 18 batsmen Matt Machan and Luke Wells in the Academy and James Beeny, Michael Gould and Steffan Piolet in 2XI. I understand Piolet has joined Warwickshire for next season which is a pity as I thought he looked a talented young batsman. With Machan and Wells graduating from the Academy in 2009 I feel Beeny and Gould chances of being offered a contract at Sussex may have gone as Beeny is 23 in March and Gould having played 50 games without being offered a contract.

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Stonewaller says...
12:11am Sun 19 Oct 08

So what you're NOW saying Mart is that signing Joyce would be "disappointing" because we have a few 17 year olds who MIGHT be good in several years' time. Unbelievable.

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Zamora25 says...
2:15pm Sun 19 Oct 08

There is no guarantee Joyce will come here and be a success either as Ward and Cottey came here on large salaries and were a flop!

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Stonewaller says...
6:39pm Sun 19 Oct 08

Cottey was a flop ??!? Yeah I remember that disastrous spell he had that saw him make 180 to set up our first win over Warwickshire for 10 years, a century and 98 to win the game at Arundel, and for good measure another 100 and 50 up at Leicester to win that match. Dreadful it was.

Sussex will sign players from outside at points in the present and in the future, Mart, get over it.

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Stonewaller says...
6:44pm Sun 19 Oct 08

"Stonewaller - To have gone without a spinner in a four day game would have been complete madness as you don't know what the wicket is going to do over the next four days! In the end Durham played TWO SPINNERS"

Maybe, but they were still going to play Collymore for Rayner until about 5 minutes before the teams were submitted. End of.

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Zamora25 says...
8:13pm Mon 20 Oct 08

Cottey had one good season in SIX years! His 188 come infamously after someone said they can **** for longer than Cottey can bat!

I accept we will sign players from outside especially in the seam bowling department where we aren't producing any decent young seamers.

It doesn't matter who was going to play five minutes before the toss. It's who actually played that matters!

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Stonewaller says...
1:37pm Tue 21 Oct 08

Er yes, but you were suggesting that we would never have even contemplated going in without a spinner, and that as a result, Collymore isn't considered good enough.

As for Cottey - so what if some unfunny ignorant person came out with that joke, what exactly does that mean ? Does that mean his 188 didn't happen ? Or that it didn't count because the Warwickshire team were too busy laughing at such a hilarious comment ?

Strange thing to say.....it actually came after he'd made 3 50s in 4 innings, so he'd been in a bit of form.

Anywat, fingers crossed Joyce and others sign, eh ?

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Stonewaller says...
10:58pm Mon 3 Nov 08

"I'll believe it when I see it!"

You'd best start believing!!

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Stonewaller says...
12:42pm Wed 5 Nov 08

Well well well BobbyfromBognor!!! Not likely at all was it!!!

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