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Safety fears at three Brighton nightclubs on New Year's Eve

The Argus: Safety fears at three Brighton nightclubs on New Year's Eve Safety fears at three Brighton nightclubs on New Year's Eve

Concerns have been raised about customer safety following a number of incidents at nightclubs on New Year’s Eve.

About a dozen police officers were forced to create a cordon outside Shooshh in King’s Road, Brighton, as up to 300 revellers tried to get into the seafront superclub before midnight on December 31.

Revolution and Boutique Club in West Street were also both asked to close early over, according to police.

 


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However, Boutique Club manager Alex Dempster said he decided to the close the venue himself and was not asked to by officers.

Jean Irving, head of licensing at Sussex Police, said that if officers had not intervened at Shooshh “something very serious would have happened” with people at risk of being injured in a crush.

She said: “While the crushing was going on, the night’s promoters were tweeting out calling |on more revellers to come to the club.

“They are making the money and the taxpayers of Brighton are paying for the police to look after their venue for them.”

One customer who had bought Shooshh tickets for himself and his girlfriend described the situation as “quite dangerous” and “if somebody had fallen they would have been trampled”.

Shooshh director Albie Saliba said the club was victim of a “crazy 15 minutes” but insisted it was safe inside his premises.

He said: “The mistake was to put 200 tickets on the door and put that on Facebook and Twitter; we will never put ourselves in that situation again.”

Mr Dempster, who said the club was not asked to close by the police, said: “An incident was alleged in our venue, supported by absolutely no evidence. Regardless an accused customer was handed over to the police by our security staff for them to investigate further but as far as we are aware no charges have since been brought.”

Licensing officers are now set to meet with club owners to work with them on avoiding a repeat situation.

They will be asked to have more door staff on as a minimum requirement but if they don’t cooperate a council review could see the venues lose their licence or have their serving hours reduced.

Meanwhile, East Street club Madame Geisha has closed for a rebranding and refurbishment.

It will be reopening as Dirty Blonde later in the year.

Chief Inspector Simon Nelson, Brighton and Hove Police head of operations, said: “Madame Geisha has closed voluntarily pending a new business venture in a couple of months time.

“We were discussing a number of issues with the owners and it was their decision to close and remain so until ready to open a business which offers safe and enjoyable entertainment.”

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9:36am Sat 4 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

Dear Neil, I think you need to google what a superclub is, Shoosh certainly is not.
Dear Neil, I think you need to google what a superclub is, Shoosh certainly is not. All 9 of me
  • Score: 34

11:23am Sat 4 Jan 14

Ambo Guy says...

Seeing in the new year in a West street nightclub has to be about the saddest thing anyone could do.
Seeing in the new year in a West street nightclub has to be about the saddest thing anyone could do. Ambo Guy
  • Score: 56

11:36am Sat 4 Jan 14

Jeff Leppard says...

Sounds like the punters at Shooshh taking the p**s?

Not the first time that's happened, isn't that right Monty?
Sounds like the punters at Shooshh taking the p**s? Not the first time that's happened, isn't that right Monty? Jeff Leppard
  • Score: 12

11:41am Sat 4 Jan 14

gheese77 says...

New years eve has to be about the worst night of the year to go out. Much better to go to bed early and spend new years day in the pub
New years eve has to be about the worst night of the year to go out. Much better to go to bed early and spend new years day in the pub gheese77
  • Score: 31

12:12pm Sat 4 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

How can the police claim they police the nightlife normally you don't see police about,the nightlife is policed by private security backed up by private security in cars that park where once police cars used to park.Police are a VERY RARE sight on brighton and hoves streets after dark.And annoyingly they claim crime is down but in reality crime is massively up its just that we don't have many police on duty to record it.Even local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form gets totally ignored.I come from a small town in Cumbria and there is more visable police there than in this city.If police had there way they would close ALL nightlife down like they have just about done in Worthing,the night time economy is important in B&H everyone that uses it pays towards the police protecting them unfortunately the police after the cuts are NOT upto the job.
How can the police claim they police the nightlife normally you don't see police about,the nightlife is policed by private security backed up by private security in cars that park where once police cars used to park.Police are a VERY RARE sight on brighton and hoves streets after dark.And annoyingly they claim crime is down but in reality crime is massively up its just that we don't have many police on duty to record it.Even local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form gets totally ignored.I come from a small town in Cumbria and there is more visable police there than in this city.If police had there way they would close ALL nightlife down like they have just about done in Worthing,the night time economy is important in B&H everyone that uses it pays towards the police protecting them unfortunately the police after the cuts are NOT upto the job. clubrob6
  • Score: -5

12:16pm Sat 4 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

clubrob6 wrote:
How can the police claim they police the nightlife normally you don't see police about,the nightlife is policed by private security backed up by private security in cars that park where once police cars used to park.Police are a VERY RARE sight on brighton and hoves streets after dark.And annoyingly they claim crime is down but in reality crime is massively up its just that we don't have many police on duty to record it.Even local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form gets totally ignored.I come from a small town in Cumbria and there is more visable police there than in this city.If police had there way they would close ALL nightlife down like they have just about done in Worthing,the night time economy is important in B&H everyone that uses it pays towards the police protecting them unfortunately the police after the cuts are NOT upto the job.
Hi, have you got any other records ?
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: How can the police claim they police the nightlife normally you don't see police about,the nightlife is policed by private security backed up by private security in cars that park where once police cars used to park.Police are a VERY RARE sight on brighton and hoves streets after dark.And annoyingly they claim crime is down but in reality crime is massively up its just that we don't have many police on duty to record it.Even local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form gets totally ignored.I come from a small town in Cumbria and there is more visable police there than in this city.If police had there way they would close ALL nightlife down like they have just about done in Worthing,the night time economy is important in B&H everyone that uses it pays towards the police protecting them unfortunately the police after the cuts are NOT upto the job.[/p][/quote]Hi, have you got any other records ? All 9 of me
  • Score: 10

1:09pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Man of steel says...

Revolution and Boutique Club in West Street were also both asked to close early over, according to police.
What on earth does that mean?
Close early over?
Revolution and Boutique Club in West Street were also both asked to close early over, according to police. What on earth does that mean? Close early over? Man of steel
  • Score: 11

3:33pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Para15 says...

This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday.

The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault.

Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money.

Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights.

Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents.

I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.
This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday. The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault. Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money. Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights. Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents. I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys. Para15
  • Score: -7

3:40pm Sat 4 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

Para15 wrote:
This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday.

The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault.

Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money.

Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights.

Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents.

I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.
Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?
[quote][p][bold]Para15[/bold] wrote: This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday. The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault. Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money. Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights. Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents. I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.[/p][/quote]Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ? All 9 of me
  • Score: 11

4:05pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Para15 says...

All 9 of me wrote:
Para15 wrote:
This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday.

The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault.

Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money.

Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights.

Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents.

I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.
Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?
Agreed, but only as I think clubs and bars became cheap………. IE student night and a change in music.

What happened to people coming to Brighton for its fantastic nightlife? Listerning to top DJ's, Clubbing until 05.00, kebab then up to the station for the first train home!
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Para15[/bold] wrote: This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday. The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault. Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money. Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights. Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents. I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.[/p][/quote]Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?[/p][/quote]Agreed, but only as I think clubs and bars became cheap………. IE student night and a change in music. What happened to people coming to Brighton for its fantastic nightlife? Listerning to top DJ's, Clubbing until 05.00, kebab then up to the station for the first train home! Para15
  • Score: 12

5:06pm Sat 4 Jan 14

rayellerton says...

Para15 wrote:
All 9 of me wrote:
Para15 wrote:
This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday.

The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault.

Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money.

Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights.

Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents.

I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.
Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?
Agreed, but only as I think clubs and bars became cheap………. IE student night and a change in music.

What happened to people coming to Brighton for its fantastic nightlife? Listerning to top DJ's, Clubbing until 05.00, kebab then up to the station for the first train home!
hear hear...Brighton used to relatively safe, clubs were great places that had world famous dj's and people came for the music and had a smile on their faces. Sadly this has long gone and i blame the 24 hr licencing which encouraged drinkers, gave us a proliferation of late bars and left clubs with no alternative but to lower their standards to compete. Only revoking this ridiculous Act will make this problem go away...
[quote][p][bold]Para15[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Para15[/bold] wrote: This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday. The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault. Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money. Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights. Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents. I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.[/p][/quote]Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?[/p][/quote]Agreed, but only as I think clubs and bars became cheap………. IE student night and a change in music. What happened to people coming to Brighton for its fantastic nightlife? Listerning to top DJ's, Clubbing until 05.00, kebab then up to the station for the first train home![/p][/quote]hear hear...Brighton used to relatively safe, clubs were great places that had world famous dj's and people came for the music and had a smile on their faces. Sadly this has long gone and i blame the 24 hr licencing which encouraged drinkers, gave us a proliferation of late bars and left clubs with no alternative but to lower their standards to compete. Only revoking this ridiculous Act will make this problem go away... rayellerton
  • Score: 5

6:17pm Sat 4 Jan 14

LeonBIank666 says...

There was never any trouble at the Top Rank disco!!
There was never any trouble at the Top Rank disco!! LeonBIank666
  • Score: 8

6:43pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Ringmer Rich says...

Coasters was the best.
Coasters was the best. Ringmer Rich
  • Score: 4

7:44pm Sat 4 Jan 14

dclp says...

The licensing police need to do the math:

Seaside Town+Reputation for great nightlife=Increased Tourism

Increased Tourism+Secure/Motiv
ated nightclub managers=More £££'s into the Brighton City Centre

More £££'s in City Centre+Increased Tax Revenue=More jobs for Police and Council Workers

In other words, keep up the **** attitude towards hard working bar staff, security, managers and promoters (many of whom put way more effort into "policing" the town and ensuring safety of the public than the council/Police will EVER do!!) and you will eventually render your own job redundant!!

Brighton is built around awesome entertainment, culture and tourism, without it we are Blackpool!!
The licensing police need to do the math: Seaside Town+Reputation for great nightlife=Increased Tourism Increased Tourism+Secure/Motiv ated nightclub managers=More £££'s into the Brighton City Centre More £££'s in City Centre+Increased Tax Revenue=More jobs for Police and Council Workers In other words, keep up the **** attitude towards hard working bar staff, security, managers and promoters (many of whom put way more effort into "policing" the town and ensuring safety of the public than the council/Police will EVER do!!) and you will eventually render your own job redundant!! Brighton is built around awesome entertainment, culture and tourism, without it we are Blackpool!! dclp
  • Score: 6

12:13am Sun 5 Jan 14

whatevernext2013 says...

dclp wrote:
The licensing police need to do the math:

Seaside Town+Reputation for great nightlife=Increased Tourism

Increased Tourism+Secure/Motiv

ated nightclub managers=More £££'s into the Brighton City Centre

More £££'s in City Centre+Increased Tax Revenue=More jobs for Police and Council Workers

In other words, keep up the **** attitude towards hard working bar staff, security, managers and promoters (many of whom put way more effort into "policing" the town and ensuring safety of the public than the council/Police will EVER do!!) and you will eventually render your own job redundant!!

Brighton is built around awesome entertainment, culture and tourism, without it we are Blackpool!!
news flash Blackpool has a decent beach ,and a lot less hassle on a night out
[quote][p][bold]dclp[/bold] wrote: The licensing police need to do the math: Seaside Town+Reputation for great nightlife=Increased Tourism Increased Tourism+Secure/Motiv ated nightclub managers=More £££'s into the Brighton City Centre More £££'s in City Centre+Increased Tax Revenue=More jobs for Police and Council Workers In other words, keep up the **** attitude towards hard working bar staff, security, managers and promoters (many of whom put way more effort into "policing" the town and ensuring safety of the public than the council/Police will EVER do!!) and you will eventually render your own job redundant!! Brighton is built around awesome entertainment, culture and tourism, without it we are Blackpool!![/p][/quote]news flash Blackpool has a decent beach ,and a lot less hassle on a night out whatevernext2013
  • Score: -2

4:03pm Sun 5 Jan 14

SexualHarassmentPanda says...

"Meanwhile, East Street club Madame Geisha has closed for a rebranding and refurbishment. It will be reopening as Dirty Blonde later in the year."

Love it.
"Meanwhile, East Street club Madame Geisha has closed for a rebranding and refurbishment. It will be reopening as Dirty Blonde later in the year." Love it. SexualHarassmentPanda
  • Score: 1

8:35pm Sun 5 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

All 9 of me wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
How can the police claim they police the nightlife normally you don't see police about,the nightlife is policed by private security backed up by private security in cars that park where once police cars used to park.Police are a VERY RARE sight on brighton and hoves streets after dark.And annoyingly they claim crime is down but in reality crime is massively up its just that we don't have many police on duty to record it.Even local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form gets totally ignored.I come from a small town in Cumbria and there is more visable police there than in this city.If police had there way they would close ALL nightlife down like they have just about done in Worthing,the night time economy is important in B&H everyone that uses it pays towards the police protecting them unfortunately the police after the cuts are NOT upto the job.
Hi, have you got any other records ?
I certainly know from my experience out and about in brighton and hove at night the official crime figures don't show whats really happening on our streets.We have very few visable police after dark to record any crime.Local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form just gets ignored so its not even easy for the public to report crime.The police actually on duty do a great job its just that after the cuts we don't have many visable police even in the city centre at night.Its wrong to claim crime is down when most of it goes unreported.Poice even admit in a article in the argus a while back they cant even respond to all 999 calls.Just go onto the streets of B&H at night police are a very rare sighting.
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: How can the police claim they police the nightlife normally you don't see police about,the nightlife is policed by private security backed up by private security in cars that park where once police cars used to park.Police are a VERY RARE sight on brighton and hoves streets after dark.And annoyingly they claim crime is down but in reality crime is massively up its just that we don't have many police on duty to record it.Even local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form gets totally ignored.I come from a small town in Cumbria and there is more visable police there than in this city.If police had there way they would close ALL nightlife down like they have just about done in Worthing,the night time economy is important in B&H everyone that uses it pays towards the police protecting them unfortunately the police after the cuts are NOT upto the job.[/p][/quote]Hi, have you got any other records ?[/p][/quote]I certainly know from my experience out and about in brighton and hove at night the official crime figures don't show whats really happening on our streets.We have very few visable police after dark to record any crime.Local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form just gets ignored so its not even easy for the public to report crime.The police actually on duty do a great job its just that after the cuts we don't have many visable police even in the city centre at night.Its wrong to claim crime is down when most of it goes unreported.Poice even admit in a article in the argus a while back they cant even respond to all 999 calls.Just go onto the streets of B&H at night police are a very rare sighting. clubrob6
  • Score: -2

10:43am Mon 6 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

clubrob6 wrote:
All 9 of me wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
How can the police claim they police the nightlife normally you don't see police about,the nightlife is policed by private security backed up by private security in cars that park where once police cars used to park.Police are a VERY RARE sight on brighton and hoves streets after dark.And annoyingly they claim crime is down but in reality crime is massively up its just that we don't have many police on duty to record it.Even local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form gets totally ignored.I come from a small town in Cumbria and there is more visable police there than in this city.If police had there way they would close ALL nightlife down like they have just about done in Worthing,the night time economy is important in B&H everyone that uses it pays towards the police protecting them unfortunately the police after the cuts are NOT upto the job.
Hi, have you got any other records ?
I certainly know from my experience out and about in brighton and hove at night the official crime figures don't show whats really happening on our streets.We have very few visable police after dark to record any crime.Local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form just gets ignored so its not even easy for the public to report crime.The police actually on duty do a great job its just that after the cuts we don't have many visable police even in the city centre at night.Its wrong to claim crime is down when most of it goes unreported.Poice even admit in a article in the argus a while back they cant even respond to all 999 calls.Just go onto the streets of B&H at night police are a very rare sighting.
yawnnnnnnnnnn
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: How can the police claim they police the nightlife normally you don't see police about,the nightlife is policed by private security backed up by private security in cars that park where once police cars used to park.Police are a VERY RARE sight on brighton and hoves streets after dark.And annoyingly they claim crime is down but in reality crime is massively up its just that we don't have many police on duty to record it.Even local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form gets totally ignored.I come from a small town in Cumbria and there is more visable police there than in this city.If police had there way they would close ALL nightlife down like they have just about done in Worthing,the night time economy is important in B&H everyone that uses it pays towards the police protecting them unfortunately the police after the cuts are NOT upto the job.[/p][/quote]Hi, have you got any other records ?[/p][/quote]I certainly know from my experience out and about in brighton and hove at night the official crime figures don't show whats really happening on our streets.We have very few visable police after dark to record any crime.Local police stations have closed down and as I found out last year the police online reporting form just gets ignored so its not even easy for the public to report crime.The police actually on duty do a great job its just that after the cuts we don't have many visable police even in the city centre at night.Its wrong to claim crime is down when most of it goes unreported.Poice even admit in a article in the argus a while back they cant even respond to all 999 calls.Just go onto the streets of B&H at night police are a very rare sighting.[/p][/quote]yawnnnnnnnnnn Brighton1000
  • Score: -1

11:53am Mon 6 Jan 14

s_james says...

rayellerton wrote:
Para15 wrote:
All 9 of me wrote:
Para15 wrote:
This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday.

The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault.

Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money.

Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights.

Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents.

I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.
Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?
Agreed, but only as I think clubs and bars became cheap………. IE student night and a change in music.

What happened to people coming to Brighton for its fantastic nightlife? Listerning to top DJ's, Clubbing until 05.00, kebab then up to the station for the first train home!
hear hear...Brighton used to relatively safe, clubs were great places that had world famous dj's and people came for the music and had a smile on their faces. Sadly this has long gone and i blame the 24 hr licencing which encouraged drinkers, gave us a proliferation of late bars and left clubs with no alternative but to lower their standards to compete. Only revoking this ridiculous Act will make this problem go away...
Agree the Act changed things, but don't think the Act should be revoked, people who want to drink after 11pm shouldn't have to go to a club. Trouble with Brighton is there are no areas outside the centre with suitable buildings and cheaper rents that clubs that make less money on booze can be located (e.g. around Vauxhall in London). Rents on the seafront and in the city centre must be sky high and if most punters are on the water it will be difficult for clubs to survive
[quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Para15[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Para15[/bold] wrote: This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday. The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault. Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money. Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights. Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents. I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.[/p][/quote]Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?[/p][/quote]Agreed, but only as I think clubs and bars became cheap………. IE student night and a change in music. What happened to people coming to Brighton for its fantastic nightlife? Listerning to top DJ's, Clubbing until 05.00, kebab then up to the station for the first train home![/p][/quote]hear hear...Brighton used to relatively safe, clubs were great places that had world famous dj's and people came for the music and had a smile on their faces. Sadly this has long gone and i blame the 24 hr licencing which encouraged drinkers, gave us a proliferation of late bars and left clubs with no alternative but to lower their standards to compete. Only revoking this ridiculous Act will make this problem go away...[/p][/quote]Agree the Act changed things, but don't think the Act should be revoked, people who want to drink after 11pm shouldn't have to go to a club. Trouble with Brighton is there are no areas outside the centre with suitable buildings and cheaper rents that clubs that make less money on booze can be located (e.g. around Vauxhall in London). Rents on the seafront and in the city centre must be sky high and if most punters are on the water it will be difficult for clubs to survive s_james
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4:17pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Notters_Seagull says...

They should look at Digital which is dangerously overcrowded every weekend. Not a problem I've had at any of the other clubs.
They should look at Digital which is dangerously overcrowded every weekend. Not a problem I've had at any of the other clubs. Notters_Seagull
  • Score: -1

10:47pm Mon 6 Jan 14

rayellerton says...

s_james wrote:
rayellerton wrote:
Para15 wrote:
All 9 of me wrote:
Para15 wrote:
This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday.

The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault.

Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money.

Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights.

Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents.

I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.
Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?
Agreed, but only as I think clubs and bars became cheap………. IE student night and a change in music.

What happened to people coming to Brighton for its fantastic nightlife? Listerning to top DJ's, Clubbing until 05.00, kebab then up to the station for the first train home!
hear hear...Brighton used to relatively safe, clubs were great places that had world famous dj's and people came for the music and had a smile on their faces. Sadly this has long gone and i blame the 24 hr licencing which encouraged drinkers, gave us a proliferation of late bars and left clubs with no alternative but to lower their standards to compete. Only revoking this ridiculous Act will make this problem go away...
Agree the Act changed things, but don't think the Act should be revoked, people who want to drink after 11pm shouldn't have to go to a club. Trouble with Brighton is there are no areas outside the centre with suitable buildings and cheaper rents that clubs that make less money on booze can be located (e.g. around Vauxhall in London). Rents on the seafront and in the city centre must be sky high and if most punters are on the water it will be difficult for clubs to survive
Under the old system drinkers could carry on until 2 am at places like Event and Creation, and people who wanted to hear music and dj's would go to one of the seafront clubs.....but increased competition now from late bars mean club owners/promoters have had to lower admission prices, and standards therefore clubs now are indistinguishable from late bars......all full of pissheads at 4/5 am
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Para15[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Para15[/bold] wrote: This is another sign of the green party trying to kill off Brighton nightlife or intact any life within the city. There has been a massive decrease in numbers of people in Brighton at night time, often most bars and clubs closed Sunday - Wednesday. The Police and Ambulance crews were massively out numbered for the incidents that happened on New Years eve. This is not the venues fault. Promotors around Brighton are the cause of most problems with the venues, they under price and over sell the events. They override and get the venue security sacked, as managers are worried about loosing money. Private Security was once again doing the job of the Police on new years eve, this isn't the first time that mobile licensed security operators have sorted out anti-social behaviour, drunks, people passed out on the street, streets fights. Considering these guys are not really even backed by the Police, they patrol in their hi-viz cars with their town link radios and cover the ever increasing cracks in the Police presents. I often wonder when Police talk about crime statistics and such like….. how much of this is handled by those Security guys.[/p][/quote]Do you not think that the reason for people not falling over themselves/ puking / fighting, on a Sunday to Wednesday is because these places are in the main, shyte ?[/p][/quote]Agreed, but only as I think clubs and bars became cheap………. IE student night and a change in music. What happened to people coming to Brighton for its fantastic nightlife? Listerning to top DJ's, Clubbing until 05.00, kebab then up to the station for the first train home![/p][/quote]hear hear...Brighton used to relatively safe, clubs were great places that had world famous dj's and people came for the music and had a smile on their faces. Sadly this has long gone and i blame the 24 hr licencing which encouraged drinkers, gave us a proliferation of late bars and left clubs with no alternative but to lower their standards to compete. Only revoking this ridiculous Act will make this problem go away...[/p][/quote]Agree the Act changed things, but don't think the Act should be revoked, people who want to drink after 11pm shouldn't have to go to a club. Trouble with Brighton is there are no areas outside the centre with suitable buildings and cheaper rents that clubs that make less money on booze can be located (e.g. around Vauxhall in London). Rents on the seafront and in the city centre must be sky high and if most punters are on the water it will be difficult for clubs to survive[/p][/quote]Under the old system drinkers could carry on until 2 am at places like Event and Creation, and people who wanted to hear music and dj's would go to one of the seafront clubs.....but increased competition now from late bars mean club owners/promoters have had to lower admission prices, and standards therefore clubs now are indistinguishable from late bars......all full of pissheads at 4/5 am rayellerton
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