Brighton and Hove one of top ten UK cities helping economic recovery

Brighton and Hove helping lead the UK's economic recovery

Brighton and Hove helping lead the UK's economic recovery

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Private enterprise in Brighton and Hove is helping lead the UK's economic recovery.

Research by the Centre for Cities think tank revealed 6,400 private sector jobs had been created in the city in the two years to 2012 - making it the seventh most thriving area of the country for new job creation outside London.

In the same time period, 500 public sector jobs were lost.

However, the report also found that Crawley and Hastings are two of the only benefactors of migration of 22-30-year-old Londoners - with most economic migration in that age group being incoming to the capital. 

Brighton, Crawley, Worthing and Hastings are amongst a handful of towns and cities to have a significant net migration from London across all age groups.

However, it says: "While these people may no longer live in London, they very much remain within commuting distance, and commuting patterns suggest that some are likely to remain part of the capital's labour market."

It adds: "The data indicates that London does appear to suck in talent  from the rest of the country. But rather than focus on ly on London's dominance, the more pertinent question appears to be: why aren't other large cities offering people enough economic opportunity to stay - and what can be done about it?"

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Alexandra Jones, chief executive of Centre for Cities, said: "The gap between London and other UK cities is widening and we are failing to make the most of cities' economic potential.

"Devolving more funding and powers to UK cities so they can generate more of their own income and play to their different strengths will be critical to ensuring this is a sustainable, job-rich recovery."

Cities minister Greg Clark said: "For Britain to prosper, our cities must prosper. They are the engines of growth for the national economy in a world where cities are increasingly competing against others around the world for jobs and investment.

"That is why the City Deals programme, which began in 2012, has been so important, giving cities more power to drive growth, something from which London has benefited for over a decade.

"The Centre for Cities report uses data up to September 2012, and illustrates exactly what the Government was saying at the time - that it is essential to hand powers over to cities so that they can take control of their own destinies. Since then, the cities have gained momentum.

"In the last two years the UK has created over a million jobs, of which over 750,000 are outside London. City Deals and Local Growth Deals will unleash the potential for cities to stimulate growth and create jobs around the country."

Brighton's position as a powerhouse of private enterprise is backed up by figures showing it has the third highest rate of business start-ups per 10,000 of population at 54.5, beaten only by Aberdeen and London. It also has the third highest rate of business closures, 48.1, behind London and Grimsby. 

It also has the second highest number of businesses for its size outside the capital, at 403.5 per 10,000 respectively.

The city's job market's largest sector is the ambiguously titled "other services", with 44.2% (64,600 jobs) categorised thus. It is also heavily reliant on the public sector at 29.5% (43,200 jobs), then knowledge intensive service jobs 18% (26,400 jobs) and manufacturing jobs accounting for just 3.5% (5,100). 

And the city is also a well-educated one, with 42.4% of the working age population having an NVQ4 level qualification or above. Just 6.4% have no formal qualifications, the sixth lowest rate in the UK - although outgunned by its neighbour Worthing, which has the lowest percentage, 4.4%.

Hastings and Worthing punched above their weight in terms of patents granted with 7.8 and 7.6 per 100,000 population respectively.

However, while Hastings topped the table of JSA claimants, with 4.4% claiming in November 2013, Crawley had one of the lowest rates, 1.7% and seventh lowest in the UK - and it also comes eighth in the table of employment rates, with 74.3% in work.

This may be in part because Crawley is not reliant on the beleaguered public sector, with 4.2 private sector jobs to every public sector one, the highest ratio in the UK. Hastings and Worthing have the fourth and fifth lowest in the UK,  both with 1.5 private sector jobs to every one public sector.

Crawley also emerges as a significant outpost of London's private sector, with 22% of its private sector employment in London headquartered businesses - the second highest proportion in the country, outside York. 

It came up third in the table of highest weekly earning at £605 a week, behind London and Reading, with Hastings again lagging well behind, with the second lowest, £382.

But it's not all good news for Crawley - the town had the biggest real wage drop in the UK of £20 a week in real terms, equalled only by Blackpool, Cambridge, Rochdale, Wigan - and Hastings. 

In Brighton and Hove, real wages fell by £13 to £501 a week. 

How are these wages split? Sussex towns and cities did well, with Crawley, Worthing and Brighton amongst the top ten cities with the lowest levels of inequality, at second, fourth and ninth in the table respectively.

The ranking was calculated by comparing JSA claims across neighbourhoods. In Crawley, the disparity between the highest and lowest JSA claim rate by neighbourhood was 4%, Worthing 4.5% and Brighton 6.8%.

Despite the influx of residents, Brighton fared badly in terms of housing stock growth, with just 0.3% more homes available from 2011 to 2012 - the tenth lowest rise in the UK.

This goes some way to explain the 4.2% house price growth, the sixth highest in the country, with Crawley beating it at 6.8%.

The city's green (small g) reputation is borne out by its ranking as sixth lowest CO2 emissions by capita, 4.3 tonnes per person - although the crown goes to Hastings which had just 3.9. Crawley was in the top ten highest emitting towns and cities, with 6.6 tonnes per capita, the ninth highest. 

The number of postcodes achieving superfast broadband speeds in 2013 was also measured. Worthing had the fifth highest penetration in the UK, with 87.3%, and Brighton the ninth, with 85.9%.

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10:25am Mon 27 Jan 14

Alison Smith says...

Great news for Brighton & the Uk's economic recovery.
Great news for Brighton & the Uk's economic recovery. Alison Smith
  • Score: 1

10:41am Mon 27 Jan 14

Quiterie says...

This will push up house prices/rents even more. I blame the Greens.
This will push up house prices/rents even more. I blame the Greens. Quiterie
  • Score: 3

10:46am Mon 27 Jan 14

s_james says...

But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?!

Surely some mistake.
But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?! Surely some mistake. s_james
  • Score: 9

10:47am Mon 27 Jan 14

billy goat-gruff says...

I blame students on bikes...
I blame students on bikes... billy goat-gruff
  • Score: 5

11:59am Mon 27 Jan 14

clearbluesky says...

As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating! clearbluesky
  • Score: 17

12:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

s_james says...

clearbluesky wrote:
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane?

(Serious question)
[quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question) s_james
  • Score: -4

12:40pm Mon 27 Jan 14

FC says...

THANKS, OBAMA.
THANKS, OBAMA. FC
  • Score: 3

12:56pm Mon 27 Jan 14

uniteagainstparkingcharges says...

Those pesky Greens destroying Brighton and turning it into a neo-marxist hell-hole that's destroying local businesses and forcing these businesses to relocate due to the high parking costs.
Those pesky Greens destroying Brighton and turning it into a neo-marxist hell-hole that's destroying local businesses and forcing these businesses to relocate due to the high parking costs. uniteagainstparkingcharges
  • Score: 6

1:17pm Mon 27 Jan 14

davedebrax says...

clearbluesky wrote:
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
"I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens."

Why? Can you explain? And what do think that labour or tories would have done to make it easier for you).
(also a serious question!)

Thanks
[quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]"I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens." Why? Can you explain? And what do think that labour or tories would have done to make it easier for you). (also a serious question!) Thanks davedebrax
  • Score: 1

1:19pm Mon 27 Jan 14

davedebrax says...

uniteagainstparkingc
harges
wrote:
Those pesky Greens destroying Brighton and turning it into a neo-marxist hell-hole that's destroying local businesses and forcing these businesses to relocate due to the high parking costs.
well, according to this data, clearly that's not the case, is it?
[quote][p][bold]uniteagainstparkingc harges[/bold] wrote: Those pesky Greens destroying Brighton and turning it into a neo-marxist hell-hole that's destroying local businesses and forcing these businesses to relocate due to the high parking costs.[/p][/quote]well, according to this data, clearly that's not the case, is it? davedebrax
  • Score: 0

1:54pm Mon 27 Jan 14

uniteagainstparkingcharges says...

davedebrax wrote:
uniteagainstparkingc

harges
wrote:
Those pesky Greens destroying Brighton and turning it into a neo-marxist hell-hole that's destroying local businesses and forcing these businesses to relocate due to the high parking costs.
well, according to this data, clearly that's not the case, is it?
I was being sarcastic but perhaps I should have made this more obvious.
[quote][p][bold]davedebrax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]uniteagainstparkingc harges[/bold] wrote: Those pesky Greens destroying Brighton and turning it into a neo-marxist hell-hole that's destroying local businesses and forcing these businesses to relocate due to the high parking costs.[/p][/quote]well, according to this data, clearly that's not the case, is it?[/p][/quote]I was being sarcastic but perhaps I should have made this more obvious. uniteagainstparkingcharges
  • Score: 8

2:15pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Quiterie says...

s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote:
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane?

(Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away.

You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there. Quiterie
  • Score: 12

2:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

musesboy says...

Phew! What a relief, especially when most posters on these forums said the the city was ruined, going to the dogs and everyone was moving to Slough.

I do hope there is a new cycle lane planned we can moan about.
Phew! What a relief, especially when most posters on these forums said the the city was ruined, going to the dogs and everyone was moving to Slough. I do hope there is a new cycle lane planned we can moan about. musesboy
  • Score: -3

2:22pm Mon 27 Jan 14

musesboy says...

Quiterie wrote:
s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote:
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane?

(Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away.

You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.[/p][/quote]Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong. musesboy
  • Score: -6

2:28pm Mon 27 Jan 14

bug eye says...

you just have to look at the types of jobs, low paid service industry and entrepreneurs, why are the high paying big businesses not investing, bad local policy, small bitty office space, no business district, left agenda. its thanks to the resilience of the local people who are the entrepreneurs starting small businesses in order to get out of the rat race live by the sea and open a cafe etc. not the council who are putting high paid employers off coming.
you just have to look at the types of jobs, low paid service industry and entrepreneurs, why are the high paying big businesses not investing, bad local policy, small bitty office space, no business district, left agenda. its thanks to the resilience of the local people who are the entrepreneurs starting small businesses in order to get out of the rat race live by the sea and open a cafe etc. not the council who are putting high paid employers off coming. bug eye
  • Score: 4

2:50pm Mon 27 Jan 14

s_james says...

Quiterie wrote:
s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote:
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane?

(Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away.

You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
You points make little sense. The Council has no contriol over income tax, bonuses and Corportation Tax, and council tax is levied on properties not businesses.

As for the person who said big businesses are not investing, is that huge new European HQ for Amex just an illusion?
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.[/p][/quote]You points make little sense. The Council has no contriol over income tax, bonuses and Corportation Tax, and council tax is levied on properties not businesses. As for the person who said big businesses are not investing, is that huge new European HQ for Amex just an illusion? s_james
  • Score: 2

2:51pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Quiterie says...

musesboy wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote:
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane?

(Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away.

You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.
Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren
eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.
[quote][p][bold]musesboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.[/p][/quote]Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.[/p][/quote]Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan. Quiterie
  • Score: 6

3:00pm Mon 27 Jan 14

s_james says...

Quiterie wrote:
musesboy wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote:
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane?

(Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away.

You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.
Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren

eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.
So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]musesboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.[/p][/quote]Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.[/p][/quote]Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.[/p][/quote]So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect? s_james
  • Score: 11

3:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Richada says...

s_james wrote:
But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?!

Surely some mistake.
This article also tells us that Brighton & Hove had the third highest rate of business closures in the country - after London and Grimsby.

Businesses are fleeing in droves.

What it fails to tell us is how long these new start ups stay in existence - and indeed how long the businesses closing have been here.

The overall gain in jobs has to be good news though, especially in the private sector, although, again, one has to question how permanent these jobs are.
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?! Surely some mistake.[/p][/quote]This article also tells us that Brighton & Hove had the third highest rate of business closures in the country - after London and Grimsby. Businesses are fleeing in droves. What it fails to tell us is how long these new start ups stay in existence - and indeed how long the businesses closing have been here. The overall gain in jobs has to be good news though, especially in the private sector, although, again, one has to question how permanent these jobs are. Richada
  • Score: 6

3:48pm Mon 27 Jan 14

s_james says...

Richada wrote:
s_james wrote:
But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?!

Surely some mistake.
This article also tells us that Brighton & Hove had the third highest rate of business closures in the country - after London and Grimsby.

Businesses are fleeing in droves.

What it fails to tell us is how long these new start ups stay in existence - and indeed how long the businesses closing have been here.

The overall gain in jobs has to be good news though, especially in the private sector, although, again, one has to question how permanent these jobs are.
Interesting, but a business closing is not the same as a business relocating or 'fleeing'.

I also note that Brighton has the 3rd highest business start up rate (after London and Aberdeen), and the second highest number of businesses per head (after London), so perhaps its not surprising that a number of these fail.
[quote][p][bold]Richada[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?! Surely some mistake.[/p][/quote]This article also tells us that Brighton & Hove had the third highest rate of business closures in the country - after London and Grimsby. Businesses are fleeing in droves. What it fails to tell us is how long these new start ups stay in existence - and indeed how long the businesses closing have been here. The overall gain in jobs has to be good news though, especially in the private sector, although, again, one has to question how permanent these jobs are.[/p][/quote]Interesting, but a business closing is not the same as a business relocating or 'fleeing'. I also note that Brighton has the 3rd highest business start up rate (after London and Aberdeen), and the second highest number of businesses per head (after London), so perhaps its not surprising that a number of these fail. s_james
  • Score: 8

3:57pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Mark63 says...

Brighton's Life Satisfaction ranked 61st out of 65.... Bingo! There's the Green effect for you... !
Brighton's Life Satisfaction ranked 61st out of 65.... Bingo! There's the Green effect for you... ! Mark63
  • Score: 0

4:21pm Mon 27 Jan 14

brighton bluenose says...

Richada wrote:
s_james wrote:
But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?!

Surely some mistake.
This article also tells us that Brighton & Hove had the third highest rate of business closures in the country - after London and Grimsby.

Businesses are fleeing in droves.

What it fails to tell us is how long these new start ups stay in existence - and indeed how long the businesses closing have been here.

The overall gain in jobs has to be good news though, especially in the private sector, although, again, one has to question how permanent these jobs are.
Wheres your evidence that businesses are 'fleeing in droves'?!!
[quote][p][bold]Richada[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?! Surely some mistake.[/p][/quote]This article also tells us that Brighton & Hove had the third highest rate of business closures in the country - after London and Grimsby. Businesses are fleeing in droves. What it fails to tell us is how long these new start ups stay in existence - and indeed how long the businesses closing have been here. The overall gain in jobs has to be good news though, especially in the private sector, although, again, one has to question how permanent these jobs are.[/p][/quote]Wheres your evidence that businesses are 'fleeing in droves'?!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 4

5:01pm Mon 27 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

FC wrote:
THANKS, OBAMA.
I TRUST you jest what has he got to do with anything the heading is a real JOKE
[quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: THANKS, OBAMA.[/p][/quote]I TRUST you jest what has he got to do with anything the heading is a real JOKE tinker111
  • Score: -2

6:06pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

Mark63 wrote:
Brighton's Life Satisfaction ranked 61st out of 65.... Bingo! There's the Green effect for you... !
61st out of 65 what? The most recent ONS stat I have for Life Satisfaction in Brighton & Hove (2013) is 7.4 out of 10, the same as the rest of East Sussex and ahead of London.
[quote][p][bold]Mark63[/bold] wrote: Brighton's Life Satisfaction ranked 61st out of 65.... Bingo! There's the Green effect for you... ![/p][/quote]61st out of 65 what? The most recent ONS stat I have for Life Satisfaction in Brighton & Hove (2013) is 7.4 out of 10, the same as the rest of East Sussex and ahead of London. Eugenius
  • Score: 5

6:11pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Richada wrote:
s_james wrote:
But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?!

Surely some mistake.
This article also tells us that Brighton & Hove had the third highest rate of business closures in the country - after London and Grimsby.

Businesses are fleeing in droves.

What it fails to tell us is how long these new start ups stay in existence - and indeed how long the businesses closing have been here.

The overall gain in jobs has to be good news though, especially in the private sector, although, again, one has to question how permanent these jobs are.
Re businesses closing I believe our esteemed council leader could probably give us some valuable input on this !
[quote][p][bold]Richada[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: But how can this be, when I frequently read on the Argus comments section that the Greens are 'destroying' the city with businesses fleeing in droves?! Surely some mistake.[/p][/quote]This article also tells us that Brighton & Hove had the third highest rate of business closures in the country - after London and Grimsby. Businesses are fleeing in droves. What it fails to tell us is how long these new start ups stay in existence - and indeed how long the businesses closing have been here. The overall gain in jobs has to be good news though, especially in the private sector, although, again, one has to question how permanent these jobs are.[/p][/quote]Re businesses closing I believe our esteemed council leader could probably give us some valuable input on this ! Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 0

7:32pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Quiterie says...

s_james wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
musesboy wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote:
As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane?

(Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away.

You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.
Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren


eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.
So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?
You seem confused sweetheart. Your question was "what in particular has the POTENTIAL to be 'devastating'?" - future tense. I've answered that question. If you don't understand the answer I'm more than happy to clarify any of the points I've made.

If you're now asking "what has the Council done" - past tense, I'm more than happy to answer that as well.

You need to be clear what information you want. Thanks for your question. x
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]musesboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.[/p][/quote]Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.[/p][/quote]Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.[/p][/quote]So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?[/p][/quote]You seem confused sweetheart. Your question was "what in particular has the POTENTIAL to be 'devastating'?" - future tense. I've answered that question. If you don't understand the answer I'm more than happy to clarify any of the points I've made. If you're now asking "what has the Council done" - past tense, I'm more than happy to answer that as well. You need to be clear what information you want. Thanks for your question. x Quiterie
  • Score: -5

8:56pm Mon 27 Jan 14

hubby says...

Drug dealers,knocker boys and winos must be leading the recovery.
Drug dealers,knocker boys and winos must be leading the recovery. hubby
  • Score: 0

9:06pm Mon 27 Jan 14

clearbluesky says...

s_james wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
musesboy wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.
Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.
So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?
My concern is that the Green Party will seek to take responsibility. If you don’t think that the Greens send strong negative signals to potential investors in Brighton & Hove then you need to look closer. Doing business in a Green Party city is clouded by instability, uncertainty and the ever-present risk that a few dogmatic Greens might attempt their own unique form of revolution by imposing some economically illiterate anti business policy locally. Give me cautious evolution over dogmatic wannabe revolutionaries any time when it comes to investing my time and money running a business in a city. But that said Brighton has so many positive people and qualities that in spite of the Greens it manages to remain a great place to do business – I can’t fault Brighton & Hove for that.
[quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]musesboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.[/p][/quote]Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.[/p][/quote]Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.[/p][/quote]So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?[/p][/quote]My concern is that the Green Party will seek to take responsibility. If you don’t think that the Greens send strong negative signals to potential investors in Brighton & Hove then you need to look closer. Doing business in a Green Party city is clouded by instability, uncertainty and the ever-present risk that a few dogmatic Greens might attempt their own unique form of revolution by imposing some economically illiterate anti business policy locally. Give me cautious evolution over dogmatic wannabe revolutionaries any time when it comes to investing my time and money running a business in a city. But that said Brighton has so many positive people and qualities that in spite of the Greens it manages to remain a great place to do business – I can’t fault Brighton & Hove for that. clearbluesky
  • Score: -1

7:07am Tue 28 Jan 14

HJarrs says...

clearbluesky wrote:
s_james wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
musesboy wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.
Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.
So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?
My concern is that the Green Party will seek to take responsibility. If you don’t think that the Greens send strong negative signals to potential investors in Brighton & Hove then you need to look closer. Doing business in a Green Party city is clouded by instability, uncertainty and the ever-present risk that a few dogmatic Greens might attempt their own unique form of revolution by imposing some economically illiterate anti business policy locally. Give me cautious evolution over dogmatic wannabe revolutionaries any time when it comes to investing my time and money running a business in a city. But that said Brighton has so many positive people and qualities that in spite of the Greens it manages to remain a great place to do business – I can’t fault Brighton & Hove for that.
Yawn, yawn. Its the usual moanerati party political broadcast we have heard since the day the Greens got elected.

We have had a constant talking down of B&H by Labour, Conservatives and their moanerati supporters. For three years we have been told that the city is "ruined", "in chaos","business is leaving" and every year the situation has actually been getting better as the city develops the infrastructure for tomorrow and it helps lead the country out of a devestating recession, caused largely by the incompetant action of our three main parties. It seems to me that many of you really would like to see the city down on its knees to suit yor own political agendas.
[quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]musesboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.[/p][/quote]Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.[/p][/quote]Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.[/p][/quote]So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?[/p][/quote]My concern is that the Green Party will seek to take responsibility. If you don’t think that the Greens send strong negative signals to potential investors in Brighton & Hove then you need to look closer. Doing business in a Green Party city is clouded by instability, uncertainty and the ever-present risk that a few dogmatic Greens might attempt their own unique form of revolution by imposing some economically illiterate anti business policy locally. Give me cautious evolution over dogmatic wannabe revolutionaries any time when it comes to investing my time and money running a business in a city. But that said Brighton has so many positive people and qualities that in spite of the Greens it manages to remain a great place to do business – I can’t fault Brighton & Hove for that.[/p][/quote]Yawn, yawn. Its the usual moanerati party political broadcast we have heard since the day the Greens got elected. We have had a constant talking down of B&H by Labour, Conservatives and their moanerati supporters. For three years we have been told that the city is "ruined", "in chaos","business is leaving" and every year the situation has actually been getting better as the city develops the infrastructure for tomorrow and it helps lead the country out of a devestating recession, caused largely by the incompetant action of our three main parties. It seems to me that many of you really would like to see the city down on its knees to suit yor own political agendas. HJarrs
  • Score: 4

9:14am Tue 28 Jan 14

s_james says...

clearbluesky wrote:
s_james wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
musesboy wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
s_james wrote:
clearbluesky wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating!
Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)
The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.
Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.
Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.
So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?
My concern is that the Green Party will seek to take responsibility. If you don’t think that the Greens send strong negative signals to potential investors in Brighton & Hove then you need to look closer. Doing business in a Green Party city is clouded by instability, uncertainty and the ever-present risk that a few dogmatic Greens might attempt their own unique form of revolution by imposing some economically illiterate anti business policy locally. Give me cautious evolution over dogmatic wannabe revolutionaries any time when it comes to investing my time and money running a business in a city. But that said Brighton has so many positive people and qualities that in spite of the Greens it manages to remain a great place to do business – I can’t fault Brighton & Hove for that.
Your concern seems based around the possibility that 'a few' Greens 'might' impose "some economically illiterate anti business policy". Well 'a few' Greens can't impose any policy as they not only need the support of the rest of the party but also either the Tories or Labour too.

Have you heard of the Brighton City Deal? Hardly anti-business.

Why the constant negativity – people going so far as reaching page 58 of a 60 page report before they find some stat on life satisfaction which is then taken out of context and misconstrued to try and paint Brighton in a negative light. Just looked at that - we rate 7.4, compared to the highest city which was 7.7 – the report itself states “There is little difference in reported life satisfaction between cities, and there is no statistical difference between cities on average and the UK as a whole.”
[quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]musesboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s_james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clearbluesky[/bold] wrote: As someone who devastated my personal finances and endured many sleepless nights to start and nurture a business that is now successful and growing and employing several local people, I would like to state categorically here that any business success in Brighton and Hove is despite of the Greens. Thank goodness Brighton and Hove has so many entrepreneurs and creatives, otherwise the impact of the imposition of Green ideology really would be devastating![/p][/quote]Out of interest, what in particular has the potential to be 'devastating'? Apart from 20mph and a bus lane? (Serious question)[/p][/quote]The Greens have made it very clear that they will hammer the wealthy through higher income tax, lower bonuses, higher Corporation Tax and higher Council Tax on more expensive properties. These are exactly the kinds of things that reduce the incentives for entrepreneurs and businesses to invest and create jobs for other people. They are extremely short sighted policies that drive entrepreneurs and wealth creators away. You just need to look at France to see how disastrous it is to have an anti-business, high tax party in charge. France has the lowest economic growth in Europe because businesses don't want to invest there.[/p][/quote]Yes, quite true. It's obvious all the top investors and entrepreneurs have left Brighton, no-one is doing business here and no-one is investing. I guess the figures must be wrong.[/p][/quote]Fortunately the local Green Party have no power to implement the things I've mentioned because the Government sets income tax rates, corporation tax rates etc. But they did look into massively increasing Council Tax for the wealthiest 20% of residents a few months ago. The fact that they were even remotely considering such a crazy idea shows how little grasp they have of how businesses/entrepren eurs would react to such a ridiculous plan.[/p][/quote]So in summary, you can't actually name anything at all that the Council has actually done in this respect?[/p][/quote]My concern is that the Green Party will seek to take responsibility. If you don’t think that the Greens send strong negative signals to potential investors in Brighton & Hove then you need to look closer. Doing business in a Green Party city is clouded by instability, uncertainty and the ever-present risk that a few dogmatic Greens might attempt their own unique form of revolution by imposing some economically illiterate anti business policy locally. Give me cautious evolution over dogmatic wannabe revolutionaries any time when it comes to investing my time and money running a business in a city. But that said Brighton has so many positive people and qualities that in spite of the Greens it manages to remain a great place to do business – I can’t fault Brighton & Hove for that.[/p][/quote]Your concern seems based around the possibility that 'a few' Greens 'might' impose "some economically illiterate anti business policy". Well 'a few' Greens can't impose any policy as they not only need the support of the rest of the party but also either the Tories or Labour too. Have you heard of the Brighton City Deal? Hardly anti-business. Why the constant negativity – people going so far as reaching page 58 of a 60 page report before they find some stat on life satisfaction which is then taken out of context and misconstrued to try and paint Brighton in a negative light. Just looked at that - we rate 7.4, compared to the highest city which was 7.7 – the report itself states “There is little difference in reported life satisfaction between cities, and there is no statistical difference between cities on average and the UK as a whole.” s_james
  • Score: 3

11:59am Tue 28 Jan 14

gheese77 says...

No business could possibly operate in a city with cycle lanes and a 20 mph speed limit, especially one run by a bunch of neo-marxist lunatics.
The story must be wrong
No business could possibly operate in a city with cycle lanes and a 20 mph speed limit, especially one run by a bunch of neo-marxist lunatics. The story must be wrong gheese77
  • Score: 3

6:57pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

gheese77 wrote:
No business could possibly operate in a city with cycle lanes and a 20 mph speed limit, especially one run by a bunch of neo-marxist lunatics.
The story must be wrong
its a typo
[quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: No business could possibly operate in a city with cycle lanes and a 20 mph speed limit, especially one run by a bunch of neo-marxist lunatics. The story must be wrong[/p][/quote]its a typo Brighton1000
  • Score: 0

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