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Sussex parents fined £97k for term time holidays

The Argus: Sussex parents fined £97k for term time holidays Sussex parents fined £97k for term time holidays

Sussex parents were fined a total of £97,295 for taking their children on holiday during school term time last year.

They were issued with more than 2,300 fixed penalty notices for taking their children on breaks when they should have been in school.

The fines were issued by Brighton and Hove City Council, West Sussex County Council and East Sussex County Council for the 2012/13 school year.

Holidaying parents in East Sussex were issued with 1,234 penalty notices worth at least £60 each, forking out a total of £54,555.

West Sussex parents were also fined at least £60 each, amounting to a total of £37,730 spanning 973 fixed penalty notices.

Brighton and Hove City Council said it issued 97 notices worth at least £60 each, collecting £5,010 in revenue.

Parents were charged if their child was absent for five consecutive days or more. And some had to pay more than the standard £60 rate if they paid late.

Christine Terrey, headteacher at Harbour Primary School in Newhaven, said she sympathised with parents who were “put in a position” by tour operators.

She said: “I had one mother call the school every day from a beach in Spain to tell me her child was ill – but we soon found out she was in fact abroad.

“Ultimately we need every child to be in school every single day they are required to be.

“But I sympathise that families also need a holiday together. They are put in a position by tour operators.

“Parents are sometimes willing to take the fine of £60 per child as opposed to paying £400 more for the cost of taking a break during school holidays.”

An East Sussex County Council spokesman said the authority also sympathised with parents.

He added: “But that’s an issue holiday companies should resolve – not schools.

“Our policy is fair and transparent and in line with what the Government wants and what legislation allows to happen. Parents are only fined if they take five consecutive days or more of unauthorised absence.

“The law does not grant parents an automatic right to take their child out of school during term time, and our policy is that headteachers should only allow them to do so in exceptional circumstances.

“Any absence from school disrupts a child’s learning and every day matters.”

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6:15am Tue 28 Jan 14

BURIRAM says...

Glad that my kids have all left school, This country is taking money whenever they can.
Glad that my kids have all left school, This country is taking money whenever they can. BURIRAM
  • Score: 15

6:18am Tue 28 Jan 14

Zamora25 says...

£37K divided 970 is not a minimum of £60 each it is £40. It's sound like the Argus journalists need to go back to school!
£37K divided 970 is not a minimum of £60 each it is £40. It's sound like the Argus journalists need to go back to school! Zamora25
  • Score: 6

6:47am Tue 28 Jan 14

rogerthefish says...

Fixed penalty notices-are they cars ?

but seriously this is only going to encourage them £40 ? should be £4000.
Fixed penalty notices-are they cars ? but seriously this is only going to encourage them £40 ? should be £4000. rogerthefish
  • Score: -11

6:52am Tue 28 Jan 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

When I was at school the teachers and rich kids would go on ski ing trips and fancy holidays in school time leaving those who could not afford to go in the classroom. They even went on a two week 'educational' cruise.
Does that still happen in school term time? If so make a counter claim because it was another division between rich and poor.
When I was at school the teachers and rich kids would go on ski ing trips and fancy holidays in school time leaving those who could not afford to go in the classroom. They even went on a two week 'educational' cruise. Does that still happen in school term time? If so make a counter claim because it was another division between rich and poor. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 19

7:11am Tue 28 Jan 14

Sussex jim says...

It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.
It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly. Sussex jim
  • Score: 25

8:50am Tue 28 Jan 14

monkeymoo says...

Take the fine every time!
Its still cheaper than going somewhere during the half term.....
eg..
Center Parks 1 week, familly of 4:
£958 for the week before half term (May)
£1428 for the week of half term (May)
£958 for the week after half term (May)

A massive £470 more expensive, for the same place (and same accommodation) for the week of half term.

It's the holiday companies that should be made to answer about this, not the schools!
Take the fine every time! Its still cheaper than going somewhere during the half term..... eg.. Center Parks 1 week, familly of 4: £958 for the week before half term (May) £1428 for the week of half term (May) £958 for the week after half term (May) A massive £470 more expensive, for the same place (and same accommodation) for the week of half term. It's the holiday companies that should be made to answer about this, not the schools! monkeymoo
  • Score: 15

9:13am Tue 28 Jan 14

kopite_rob says...

Many years ago I recall the last two weeks of term before the Summer and Christmas break were a complete waste of time. It was a wind down for both puils & teachers. I doubt that tradition has changed.
So what if a child misses this non productive period of school.
I can remember my holidays abroad. By the time I was 15 I'd visited the Parthenon, Heraklion, the volcanoes of Gran Canaria, the Jemaa el-Fnaa, the Sahara desert, the Coliseum. I got to experience history, geography, language and religion in the real world. If my Dad had followed these rules he wouldn't have afforded these holidays and my education would have been very much poorer for it.
I fully intend to do the same thing when my children are old enough.
Many years ago I recall the last two weeks of term before the Summer and Christmas break were a complete waste of time. It was a wind down for both puils & teachers. I doubt that tradition has changed. So what if a child misses this non productive period of school. I can remember my holidays abroad. By the time I was 15 I'd visited the Parthenon, Heraklion, the volcanoes of Gran Canaria, the Jemaa el-Fnaa, the Sahara desert, the Coliseum. I got to experience history, geography, language and religion in the real world. If my Dad had followed these rules he wouldn't have afforded these holidays and my education would have been very much poorer for it. I fully intend to do the same thing when my children are old enough. kopite_rob
  • Score: 15

9:23am Tue 28 Jan 14

Paolokent says...

“Any absence from school disrupts a child’s learning and every day matters.”

NO, it doesn't matter - this is the ridiculous lie that those in the system (council, government and school officials) continue to peddle. The vast majority of children benefit from occasional breaks from the school routine - a day or week missed here and there makes absolutely no difference to the child's education. The policy is nothing to do with the children, it's to do with the schools and their admin and their stats.
“Any absence from school disrupts a child’s learning and every day matters.” NO, it doesn't matter - this is the ridiculous lie that those in the system (council, government and school officials) continue to peddle. The vast majority of children benefit from occasional breaks from the school routine - a day or week missed here and there makes absolutely no difference to the child's education. The policy is nothing to do with the children, it's to do with the schools and their admin and their stats. Paolokent
  • Score: 11

9:27am Tue 28 Jan 14

thelieshurts says...

Sussex jim wrote:
It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.
Teachers Training day's comes to mind, and I think they have one just before Christmas.( we know what that's for)
[quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.[/p][/quote]Teachers Training day's comes to mind, and I think they have one just before Christmas.( we know what that's for) thelieshurts
  • Score: 11

9:48am Tue 28 Jan 14

Saltdean Resident says...

thelieshurts wrote:
Sussex jim wrote:
It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.
Teachers Training day's comes to mind, and I think they have one just before Christmas.( we know what that's for)
I'm not a teacher so don't hang me but teacher training days are usually at the beginning of term, i know there was one on the first Monday after the Christmas holiday not before.
[quote][p][bold]thelieshurts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.[/p][/quote]Teachers Training day's comes to mind, and I think they have one just before Christmas.( we know what that's for)[/p][/quote]I'm not a teacher so don't hang me but teacher training days are usually at the beginning of term, i know there was one on the first Monday after the Christmas holiday not before. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 2

10:57am Tue 28 Jan 14

Fight_Back says...

thelieshurts wrote:
Sussex jim wrote:
It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.
Teachers Training day's comes to mind, and I think they have one just before Christmas.( we know what that's for)
As do strike days and voting days.
[quote][p][bold]thelieshurts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.[/p][/quote]Teachers Training day's comes to mind, and I think they have one just before Christmas.( we know what that's for)[/p][/quote]As do strike days and voting days. Fight_Back
  • Score: 7

11:44am Tue 28 Jan 14

FC says...

Sussex jim wrote:
It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.
You're an idiot. A first class moron.

Compensation when a school closes unexpectedly is the not the same as a planned holiday during term time.

Parents should be fined for taking their children out during term time. There's at least 13-14 other weeks you can take your kids away.

"OH BUT IT'S SO EXPENSIVE"

You should be thankful you can even afford to consider a family holiday! Stop whinging!
[quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.[/p][/quote]You're an idiot. A first class moron. Compensation when a school closes unexpectedly is the not the same as a planned holiday during term time. Parents should be fined for taking their children out during term time. There's at least 13-14 other weeks you can take your kids away. "OH BUT IT'S SO EXPENSIVE" You should be thankful you can even afford to consider a family holiday! Stop whinging! FC
  • Score: -10

1:12pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Tallywhacker says...

FC wrote:
Sussex jim wrote:
It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.
You're an idiot. A first class moron.

Compensation when a school closes unexpectedly is the not the same as a planned holiday during term time.

Parents should be fined for taking their children out during term time. There's at least 13-14 other weeks you can take your kids away.

"OH BUT IT'S SO EXPENSIVE"

You should be thankful you can even afford to consider a family holiday! Stop whinging!
What a stupid comment. i don't pick my holidays they are alocated out. and why should people be thankfull they have saved for a holiday, nobody gives them free.
[quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: It should work both ways. Parents should have financial compensation when schools shut unexpectedly.[/p][/quote]You're an idiot. A first class moron. Compensation when a school closes unexpectedly is the not the same as a planned holiday during term time. Parents should be fined for taking their children out during term time. There's at least 13-14 other weeks you can take your kids away. "OH BUT IT'S SO EXPENSIVE" You should be thankful you can even afford to consider a family holiday! Stop whinging![/p][/quote]What a stupid comment. i don't pick my holidays they are alocated out. and why should people be thankfull they have saved for a holiday, nobody gives them free. Tallywhacker
  • Score: 8

2:42pm Tue 28 Jan 14

tykemison says...

Paolokent wrote:
“Any absence from school disrupts a child’s learning and every day matters.”

NO, it doesn't matter - this is the ridiculous lie that those in the system (council, government and school officials) continue to peddle. The vast majority of children benefit from occasional breaks from the school routine - a day or week missed here and there makes absolutely no difference to the child's education. The policy is nothing to do with the children, it's to do with the schools and their admin and their stats.
Best comment of the week.This is a nonsense,NO child will suffer from missing a few School Days here and there,infact,some would argue the standard of Teaching needs to be addressed not the pupils occasional Family Day off,Its about revenue,we are being taken for a ride by all and sundry.
[quote][p][bold]Paolokent[/bold] wrote: “Any absence from school disrupts a child’s learning and every day matters.” NO, it doesn't matter - this is the ridiculous lie that those in the system (council, government and school officials) continue to peddle. The vast majority of children benefit from occasional breaks from the school routine - a day or week missed here and there makes absolutely no difference to the child's education. The policy is nothing to do with the children, it's to do with the schools and their admin and their stats.[/p][/quote]Best comment of the week.This is a nonsense,NO child will suffer from missing a few School Days here and there,infact,some would argue the standard of Teaching needs to be addressed not the pupils occasional Family Day off,Its about revenue,we are being taken for a ride by all and sundry. tykemison
  • Score: 8

6:05pm Tue 28 Jan 14

John Steed says...

disgusting and totally unfair, it one thing not sending a child to school it another thing having a family holiday, the tories are supposed to be supporters of the family unit, well you tories show it, either legislate to stop the tour operators rip off of holiday time booking tarrifs or else stop this insidious fixed penalty system.
disgusting and totally unfair, it one thing not sending a child to school it another thing having a family holiday, the tories are supposed to be supporters of the family unit, well you tories show it, either legislate to stop the tour operators rip off of holiday time booking tarrifs or else stop this insidious fixed penalty system. John Steed
  • Score: 4

7:54pm Tue 28 Jan 14

hubby says...

What a joke Britain has become.
What a joke Britain has become. hubby
  • Score: 1

9:12pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Lisa010265 says...

Well, it's just another money spinner for the Greens. Parking tickets for humping the kerbs in Mile Oak - but you'd only know about the new parking restriction if you read paper version of The Argus, or walk around the area reading Notices on telegraph poles. Thankfully, the police don't have the manpower to uphold the 20mph speed limit in town.

This Council is an absolute disgrace. Who ever brought them to power needs to rethink their vote the next time.
Well, it's just another money spinner for the Greens. Parking tickets for humping the kerbs in Mile Oak - but you'd only know about the new parking restriction if you read paper version of The Argus, or walk around the area reading Notices on telegraph poles. Thankfully, the police don't have the manpower to uphold the 20mph speed limit in town. This Council is an absolute disgrace. Who ever brought them to power needs to rethink their vote the next time. Lisa010265
  • Score: 0

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