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Rebel councillor explains stance that led to sacking

8:26am Tuesday 6th February 2007

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Controversial school catchment areas will be introduced in Brighton and Hove next year.

But the proposals were approved on Friday only after Labour sacked a rebel councillor from the schools committee for refusing to back reform.

The move enraged opponents of the scheme, with many questioning the local Labour Party's integrity.

Juliet McCaffery tells why she had to stick to her guns and incur the wrath of colleagues.


On Friday at 3pm Brighton and Hove City Council's revamped secondary school admissions plan was set to fall flat on its face.

With the final vote on whether to accept the catchment area scheme just two hours away, the ten members of the children, families and schools committee were split six to four - and they were against the proposals.

Since unanimously agreeing in principal to the plans at the previous meeting in November, the four Conservative committee members, Ken Norman, Ted Kemble, Vanessa Brown and Linda Hyde, along with independent Jayne Bennett and Labour rebel Juliet McCaffery, had all been swayed by a groundswell of protests against the scheme.

More than 3,500 people signed a petition against the proposals and had put pressure on councillors to do what was best for voters in their wards. But plans had been created in the first place following pressure from hundreds of parents in other areas who claimed the existing distance-from-school measure was unfair because of the uneven distribution of schools around the city.

Many faced having no choice about which school their children attended because they lived too far from any of them. They had raised a petition too with almost 1,000 signatures.

With council elections looming in May, committee members had a lot to think about.

At 3.15pm Councillor McCaffery, deputy chairwoman of the committee, was unceremoniously removed from her duties by council leader Simon Burgess.

Having got wind that the decision was going to go against the Labour Party because Coun McCaffery was refusing to vote in favour, he decided she had to be removed. As a result, the voting was split five-five and committee chairwoman Councillor Pat Hawkes used her casting vote to push the proposals through.

Mother-of-five Coun McCaffery said she was extremely disappointed by her party's actions.

She said: "It came as a real surprise.

I made my position very clear for at least two and a half months. It was upsetting because I had been on that committee for several years and had put in a lot of work."

Councillor Burgess said he sacked Coun McCaffery because she was acting in the interests of her ward rather than the city as a whole.

Coun McCaffery, who represents Preston Park, refuted the accusation.

She said: "I'm against the scheme because it severely disadvantages my ward and, in my opinion, severely disadvantages the city as a whole.

"I don't accept that I was not acting in the interests of the city. I'm very disappointed people in Whitehawk and Moulsecoomb will only have the choice of one school each."

She said despite knowing she would upset her party she could not have supported the proposals.

She lives in Prestonville, the area between Seven Dials and Preston Park, which has now been put into a joint catchment for Hove Park and Blatchington Mill school.

Parents in the area are devastated they will no longer be able to get their children into their nearest school, high-performing Dorothy Stringer, and because of a "lottery"

deciding factor they may also miss out on Blatchington Mill, the closer of the two in the catchment.

Hove Park's lower school is almost four miles from Prestonville.

Coun McCaffery, a governor at Stanford Junior school, in Stanford Road, said: "The bottom line is I would not want to put my 11-year-old on the bus to Hove Park. If I wouldn't, how can I expect the people who voted for me to do so? There was just no way I could vote in favour of this.

It would not have been fair."

While supporters of the catchment area scheme have been celebrating, its opponents have been investigating the possibility of a legal challenge to the decision.

Chris Bourne, unofficial spokesman for supporters of the scheme, said: "Friday night saw a victory for common sense and fairness over the forces of selfish self-interest.

Tracey-Ann Ross, spokeswoman for opposition campaign group Schools 4 Communities, said: "We are not going to leave it there. How can they get away with changing someone just because they are not happy with how they will vote. It's a mockery."

The group is looking into contacting the school adjudicator and council ombudsman, as well as the possibility of a legal challenge.

It will be holding emergency meetings tonight and at Coombe Road School tomorrow night.

Mrs Ross said: "We have to question this council's commitment to democracy. If they do it on this issue what's to stop them doing it about the King Alfred or anything else?"

As well as the parents' challenge, there is a possibility the catchment area scheme could be halted if enough councillors ask for it to be "called in" to be examined by a scrutiny committee.

A Brighton and Hove City Council spokesman said Coun McCaffery's sacking from the committee had been carried out in accordance with its constitution.

He said: "Under the constitutional arrangements operated by the council, once seats are allocated to political groups, the council is required to make individual appointments in accordance with the wishes of the group to whom the seat is allocated.

"The wishes of a group are deemed to be those expressed by the leader of the group. Where such wishes have been communicated by the leader of a group, the chief executive has to make or terminate appointments accordingly. This is exactly what happened here."

  • To see a map of the new catchment areas, click here.

What do you think about Juliet McCaffery being sacked? Are you for or againt the school catchment area reforms?

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Stuart Dickson, BN2 4TQ says...
2:22pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I am appaled by the treatment of Coun. McCaffery. It shows that this was a political decision and the so called consultation was a sham. Labour have let down their core voters in Whitehawk, Moulsecoomb and Bevendean. They wont be getting my vote. Neither will the "green when it suits them party".

Sarah Rhys, Preston Park says...
2:44pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I think Councillor McCaffery was not only acting in the interests of her ward. She obviously has serious concerns about children from Prestonville who could walk to Stringer and Varndean and have no chance of going there. Some will have to get the bus 3 miles to Hove Park. But I believe she was also thinking of the city as a whole. As she points out in the article there are many disadvantaged areas who are left with the choice of only one school and now have no chance of accessing the better performing schools whereas before they had some chance. People opposing the proposals do not necessarily want to maintain the status quo (in fact many of us supported the proposals at first until we looked at them in more detail and saw the many flaws) but we believe the proposals are unfair. The pro SAR group seem to have brainwashed the press and the council that it is only relatively wealthy areas such as Preston Park and Withdean who oppose the proposals and that disadvantaged areas will benefit. Just one look at the banners at the various protests show this could not be further from the truth.

Luke Burstow, Hove says...
3:50pm Tue 6 Feb 07

This whole process has been driven by a relatively small group of articulate, motivated parents who chose to live in the centre of Brighton and then found that the secondary schools available to them did not meet their aspirations.

They have now arranged for the school boundaries to be changed to accomodate their wishes at the expense of those who did a bit of research before they bought a house.

Anthony Brand, Exeter Street says...
3:52pm Tue 6 Feb 07

The sacking at the last minute of Juliet McCaffery proves that this issue was always going to be voted along party lines.If Pat Hawkes had any integrity she and the Labour Party would have got rid of Juliet months ago when she nmade her position clear.It was only when they realised they could actually lose the vote they made their move.They have now introduced a system where Stringer/Varndean is vastly oversubscribed and is oppossed by both heads.Whilst those supporters of the scheme may think they will be going to oon of those 2 schools they will get a surprise when they realise that not all their children will be able to get in and will still have to travel.There was a geographical anamoly in the schools admissions that needed to be addressed but mving the problem to another area doesn't haelp.This was not about social injustice.The parents who think they have benefitted are not socially disadvantaged whilst children who have 'real' social deprivation have not had their concerns addressed.

From Anthony Brand a working class father of 2 from the Prestonville area.

Luke Burstow, Hove says...
3:56pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Me again ;-)

Of course, if Cardinal Newman (80% state funded) didn't have special status with regard to its intake a lot of the problems for parents of children in central Brighton wouldn't exist as they would have a 'local' school.

It's almost more of a scandal that we pay for religiously segregated education out of our taxes that results in this whole thing being an issue in the first place.

Anita van der Colff, Prestonville says...
3:58pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Fridays events have made me wonder how I am to explain the democratic process to my child. We have just had the council make an important decision about our childrens future. But rather than allowing the process to proceed to its full democratic outcome - the ruling party see they may not win the vote so take action to replace the one councillor who was perhaps not going to vote as they would wish. How can this be democratic this is unseemly manipulation. Is this not the type of bullying we teach our children is wrong

I note Councillor Burgess comments that Juliet McCaffery was being swayed by her ward - can he honestly say that the same is not the case for him. I think this whole episode has been incredibly divisive for the city and will continue to be so as this vote has merely moved the problem around not resolved it.


Jason Harris, Patcham says...
4:19pm Tue 6 Feb 07

As a hard working father of 3, I am now in a position where I have had the right to choose my childrens secondary school taken from me. Coun. McCaffrey had her choice snatched away from her at the last minute. Labour Councillors fair and credible? Not in my eyes. The treatment of Coun. McCafrrey was disgusting. Please do not let any Labour Councillors knock my door when canvassing for votes in the forthcoming council elections. Coun. Burgess and his other Labour yes men/women - are you proud of yourselves??

keith turvey, Withdean says...
4:48pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Coun McCaffery has acted with integrity and engaged with the issues affecting the whole city, not just the concerns of her own ward. It's a disgrace and people will not easily forget the gamble some Labour and Green councillors are happy to take with the future educational opportunities of all children in this divided city.

Cate Miller, Coombe Road says...
4:55pm Tue 6 Feb 07

This last minute sacking of Juliet McCaffery, I believe, demonstrates the shameful lengths that the Labour Party will go to as they fight for seats against the Greens in marginal wards - the very same wards who will benefit from the proposals.

On the other hand, the interests of Moulsecoomb and Bevendean, regarded as Labour strongholds, have been ignored. We argued our case reasonably and honourably, but the Labour "group" had already decided the outcome.

Under the circumstances, the accusation levelled at Juliet McCaffery that she was only thinking of her ward smacks of hypocrisy. Instead, it seems that the "what is good for the whole of the city" should be sacrificed for Labour Party interests.

Andrew Saunders, Patcham says...
4:56pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Coun McCaffery, we are told was removed because she was not "acting in the best interests of the City as a whole ".... a phrase that has now become tired and tarnished . The whole point of the process was that it was up to the CFS Committee to decide whether the proposals were in the best interests of the City. Many people believe that they are, but many people believe that they are not.

It was up to the Working Group (which incidentally couldn't even agree amongst themselves) to persuade the CFS Committee that the proposals were in the City's best interests. This they couldn't do until one of the Committee members was 'substituted' so outrageously.

What a Hollow 'Victory'

Chris Bourne, Hove says...
5:01pm Tue 6 Feb 07

To Luke Burstow. I can only say that I personally agree that state education, funded by the taxpayer, should not allow schools to choose intake based on religious preferences. Cardinal Newman is by far my closest school but my children cannot go there. However - that is a debate for another day as it is not something the local council has any control over.
Also, Luke, it may interest you to know that when I and my family moved to our house, in 2000, we would have had every expectation that our children would move onto Blatchington Mill from Somerhill Junior, as that was where almost everyone in this area went. However, the reason they cannot now do so is that the system was changed for 2005 intake to make "safe walking distance" the main criterion - since when that maximum distance has shrunk every single year. That is why a system of catchment areas offers much more stability to our City's communities.

There is a lot of talk amongst those who support the maintenance of the "walking distance" criterion about "having their choice removed" under the new system. Two points here:
1) Many of those people, for example much of Patcham, will find that the "choice" they think they possess has already been removed by the shrinking golden halos around the popular schools.
2) More importantly, if you are staying within the state education system you don't actually have a "choice". You have a right to "express a preference". The council's job is to allocate the school places in a fair amd transparent way to ALL the City's children, not just to those who live near the best schools. Those schools belong to all of us.

Turning to McCaffery. It is HER behaviour which has been "disgusting" and undemocratic, not that of the local Labour leadership. I am surprised that she held onto her job for so long, as she has spoken openly of her opposition to these plans because they did not suit a small (but VERY vocal!) minority of her constituents. She was supposed to be acting, to trot out that old phrase yet again "in the interests of the City as a whole" but was patently not doing so. I suspect Simon Burgess was trying to give her as long as possible to change her stance on this issue and keep her job, but she refused to do so.

Of course, the Conservative party too were duty-bound "to act in the best interests of the whole City". Their actions are even more despicable as they saw McCaffery's intractable opposition and then decided to make political mileage out of it. They knew if they voted en bloc, with Jayne Bennett easily swayed to their side, they could leave no other option open to Labour - leave McCaffery in place and lose the vote, or remove her and suffer some embarassment and abuse as a result.

When I started campaigning on all this I naively hoped that it would be a non-party issue. Unfortunately it has not turned out that way.

It was quite amusing on Friday evening to hear so many Labour-leaning anti-SAR campaginers enthusiastically applauding the most half-baked and illogical speeches from the Conservatives as they sought to justify their sudden change of heart. All I can say is I hope they all reap their just rewards in the upcoming elections.

Paul Fellingham, Preston Park says...
5:03pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Six out of the ten CFS committee members were opposed to the SAR in its current form. Therefore it should have been rejected. Imagine the outcry if the situation were reversed and a member of the committee had been replaced to secure a rejection. A disgrace.

Karen Oliver, Hove says...
5:04pm Tue 6 Feb 07

The Labour group has acted disgracefully in sacking Juliet McCaffery immediately before the meeting of CFS. She listened to the arguements for and against and had sufficient concerns about the review that she was going to oppose the proposals. It seems that Labour were intent to see these proposals through at all costs! Whatever happened to democracy? It is Simon Burgess and Pat Hawkes that ought to be sacked not Juliet!

Mark Bannister, Withdean says...
5:14pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Chris Bourne talks a load of cobblers (and not for the first time). If he thinks those that voted against the proposals were self interested then what was Simon Burgess thinking of when he sacked Cllr MacCaffery - I'll tell you what "I need to save my sorry Labour seats from the Greens in Hanover and Queens Park" that's what - how else do you explain the hysterical response from Labour(& Greens) to pulling the Falmer catchment further south into BN23 which would have improved the social mix in the Falmer catchment???? Chris Bourne is either blind or disengenous not to see that.

Alan Rogers, Hove says...
5:17pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I believe that every school has the right to pick 10% of the intake but none in the Brighton and Hove area currently do, is this change imposed on us by the current Labour council going to change this?
Also will the conservitaves be able to revoke this in May when they are the largest group in the council

Chris Bourne, Hove says...
5:32pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Thank you for your incisive comments, Mark Bannister. That is about the level we have come to expect from you guys over the course of this "debate".

If you were so concerned about "improving the social mix" in Falmer why did you not get Martin Powell to suggest bussing some kids from Withdean or Fiveways into the school?

It is disingenuous of you to suggest that improving the social mix was the reason for the BN2 3 suggestion - and you know it!

LIZ WAKEFIELD, HOVE says...
5:35pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Well what do you expect from new labour? Go against the big boss and away you go.
Juliet has been a local champion for education and has been treated most unfairly.

Catherine, Brighton says...
5:55pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I went to poor performing secondary school with a less-than-good reputation, just like those that are trying to be avoided by middle class parents in Brighton & Hove. However I achieved 7As & 2Bs, plus 3 Bs at A level, went to a good univeristy university, got a 2:1, and did a Masters at Oxford. Going to a secondary school with worse results than others actually did me good, as all my primary school friends who paid to go to private school, miraculously "found god" to go to Christian Schools or appealed against local catchment areas, ended up snobby, over privileged, boring and are at exactly the same career point 10 years later as I am now.

Jane Kistnasamy, Coombe Road, Brighton says...
6:03pm Tue 6 Feb 07

The dismissal of Councillor McCaffery at the 11th hour is scandalous, however with the whole secondary review being far from transparent I am hardly surprised. Our own school & surrounding community only found out about the SAR in November06 & as quoted at Friday's meeting there are other school's across the city that still didn't know about it as late as last week! It was interesting to read in Saturday's Argus how the same leader of the council responsible for Juliet's dismissal, Simon Burgess, is to reported to be bidding to represent the Brighton Kemptown constituency as MP in the looming elections! What with the report on the Argus website yesterday with election guru David Boothroyd predicting a political shift & Mr Burgess himself saying "It is a very real possibility that the Conservatives could take control in May. We are working very hard trying to stop this happening...."
Yes!! Very hard Mr Burgess - we witnessed just how hard at Friday night's meeting! I look forward to you and your representatives knocking on my door plying for my vote in May!

Martin Powell, Preston Park says...
6:14pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I favour catchments - but only if they catch the kids in them, and give all schools as balanced an intake as possible. The current proposal does neither - Falmer will be "cut off at the knees" as its Governors put it, and many children from the Stringer/Varndean area will be directed out of catchment. Yet a solution to help was on the table - extend the Falmer catchment south to include parts of Elm Grove and Hanover. It is no coincidence that Labour/Greens rejected an option that would have upset what is a key marginal for them.

keith turvey, Withdean says...
6:19pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Chris Bourne, I do find the way you seem to be able to laugh at others' misfortune alarming. I don't think it does your cause any good. I was also there Friday night and I didn't find anything "amusing". Had it have gone the other way I still wouldn't find it in any way amusing. This does seem to suggest that this has become some sort of sport for you.

You also use language extremely loosely as you have done throughout this campaign. You suggest that Labour will suffer "abuse." This is a very strong word and I would suggest that you reserve it for it's correct contexts. Expressing opinions that do not happen to agree with your view and letting politicians know that you don't agree with them is not abusive.

However, I would suggest that refering to Counc. McCaffery as simply "McCaffery" and "HER" is a form of verbal abuse and bullying. I do not see any commentatators here refering to "Hawkes."

Molly, says...
6:20pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Re: McCaffery & CFS vote. I think you will find that all the political parties meet at what are known as Group meetings. That is, the tories, greens, lib dems and labour councillors all have regular meetings of their own councillors to decide what 'line' to take on issues arising at committee meetings due to take place. The Labour Group (ie the labour councillors) decided to support the SAR. McCaffery as a labour councillor should have supported that line. If she felt that she couldn't do so then she should have resigned her place on CF&S. She chose not to. Any Cllr (or MP for that matter) knows that to break the party whip (ie the agreed stance) brings a punishment. As she made it very clear she would vote against the Labour whip - she got punished by being removed from CF&S. She was given every opportunity to change her mind. She didn't.

Had she aided and abetted the downfall of the SAR she would have been party to disenfranchising an even greater number of children as the First Preference First admissions system is soon to be made illegal and will have to be replaced by the Equal Preference System. The Equal Preference System plus home to school distance would have advantaged even more those living near(er) to the secondary schools and given even greater disadvantage to those living further away.


C. Sweeney, says...
6:33pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Molly, are you kidding? If this was the case, why should there have been a meeting at all? They could have just counted the councillors from each party and decide the whole thing that way. This is not what I call democracy!!!!! If this was the case any decision made in parliament by the ruling party would just go through, no room for debate!!! Think about what you are saying!!

keith turvey, Withdean says...
6:37pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Molly this is not the case. National cross party select committees like local cross-party committees are a recognition that there are some imporatnt issues that go beyond or do indeed cross official party lines. The fair distribution of children's future educational opportunities is one such issue that politicians acting with integrity should be able to agree on.

Saying that counc. McCaffery should have followed party lines is ludicrous. What you mean is that you wanted her to follow the party line. Thank heavens we have got politicians with the intellect to recognise when it is not in the interests to follow the party line. More politicians willing to do this in the last few years could have saved this government from many flawed foreign policies; but that's another issue. Ability to recognise when party policies are wrong and then taking a stand is a sign of political courage and integrity and I welcome it.

J Harris, Patcham says...
6:44pm Tue 6 Feb 07

In response to Molly's comments - what ever happened to democracy? Molly, think about what you are going to say before going to print. Punished ?? That's a little agressive Molly!! I agree with C Sweeneys comments. Coun Burgess is going to have a work very very hard to regain any credibility. Roll on May!!

stephen plaice, brighton says...
7:19pm Tue 6 Feb 07

The gerrymandering of the CFS committee is positively Orwellian. How could this city claim to be modern and democratic when a consultative process is abused in this way ? The removal of Ms McCaffrey should be the signal to voters to remove those who instigated and supported this disgraceful episode in Council history. Using the future of children for political advantage is about as craven as it gets in public life. Resignations of the Leader of The Council and the Chair of the CFS Committee are the least that we should demand, before this political shambles earns Brighton a reputation as a Hogarthian stew of corruption.

Lance Bellers, Brighton says...
7:19pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I was really taken aback by Labour's sacking of Coun McCaffery. Personally I opposed the proposals but I can understand why feelings were running high on both sides of the issue, it seems to me what Brighton really deserves is a council with much more vision and ambition that will tackle the problem at its core - ie, get Comart back on its feet and also seriously consider opening a brand new secondary school - start with just one or two years and expand from there. Surely it's clear that Brighton is a hotspot for attracting new residents - we're a city now and we can't just keep bumping along with an obvious lack of schools, both in geographical spread and quality.

My view is that the proposals have simply shifted the problem around and therefore I opposed it. Our personal choice of school has not been affected by it.

I applaud Coun McCaffery's integrity in standing up for what she believed was correct and I condemn the decision by Labour to sack her in this manner. In a way, that has angered me much more than the proposals themselves - at least I could see aguments on both sides. But now I would find it impossible to trust the Labour council on any future issues. What happens if one of their elected members campaigns for local people on issues such as the King Alfred development, possibly even a new ground for the Seagulls. How do we know if that will also be quashed at the last minute as well?

I have voted Labour at every local election but would certainly not do so again.

David Ide, Brighton says...
7:27pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Once again Labour has demonstrated that unless you toe the party line you will be outed, all credit to Juliet Mc Caffrey for not giving in to party Labour dictatorship. Messrs Burgess, Hawkes etc should feel ashamed but obviously will not.

Siobhan Mc Alinden, Preston Park says...
7:37pm Tue 6 Feb 07

This whole process is appalling. Parents are turning on other parents- viciously in some cases- when we all want the same thing for our children. The latest proposals however serve the interests of few. Even those congratulating themselves on getting into the prized Stringer/Varndean catchment cannot rest until they get that letter through the door. They stand a high chance of being directed to one of the undersubscribed schools. What is tragic, and this is what Juliet Mc Caffrey has said all along, is that the families from Falmer, Coldean, Bevendean, Moulscomb, Hollingdean etc all are left with no choice of school whatsoever. The rest of us will wait for the letters! What price democracy?

Rick, Patcham says...
7:48pm Tue 6 Feb 07

The problem with tunnel vision is the world moves on and you don’t notice. Chris Bourne needs to update his understanding of the legislation on school admissions policies. Local authorities will soon have a duty to increase opportunities for parental choice. These changes do precisely the opposite for the vast majority of parents in ‘the whole of the City’. He could also do with exercising some restraint with his language. Whether or not he agrees with Councillor McCaffrey, to level personal accusations at her is beyond contempt. Do we now live in a system where it is acceptable to question someone’s integrity because they listened to parents who didn’t buy the pro-proposal propaganda and could see for themselves the damage these changes will do to the education of the majority of children in the city? Unless of course we are to believe that the 8% of children who will be better off as a result of these changes represent the ‘whole of the City’. I applaud Juliet McCaffery’s integrity and courage to stand up to the bully-boy tactics of the Labour Party. Prospective Parliamentary candidates take note, voters in Queens Park and Hanover may save Labour council seats in Queens Park and Hanover, but when it comes to the general elections you really will have the ‘whole of the City’ to answer to. Have you looked at the size of the Labour majority recently?

Sara, Withdean says...
8:27pm Tue 6 Feb 07

The removal of Coun McCaffery on Friday is a disgrace and needs to be investigated. For such a 'cool' and up and coming city we seem to have lost all common sense.

craig, coombe road says...
8:36pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I applaud Counsillor McCaffery obviously a woman of integrity. Shame on youCounsillors Hawkes, Burgess et al

Mick, Freshfield Road says...
8:44pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Pro proposal propaganda, Rick? Nice bit of alliteration but somewhat paranoid I fear. And as for your figures. I assume you arrive at the figure of 8% of children being better off by assuming that currently 92% are satisfied. Not true I'm afraid Rick. You see there was a change in admissions policy to the present one from the 2005 intake. Before that change took place there was indeed a 92% satisfaction rate. But since then it has been a different story with the satisfaction rate diminishing significantly in successive years ever since. We are still awaiting the figures for this year (should be known in March) but last year the satisfaction rate had gone down to 85.4% and this year it is fully expected will decrease yet again. So you see applying your calculations this means that the 8% you refer to is actually at least 14.6%..and counting.
Furthermore, Rick, last years figures also reveal that in some areas the percentages achieving 1st preference based on the distance criterion was actually 100%, whilst in others it was as low as 6.7%. Are you starting to see just why change was needed Rick? You think about it, Rick, but I would suggest that if you do want to be involved in this debate you spend time getting hold of some facts, not just latching on to any old figures that happen to support your argument.

Dawn, says...
8:54pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I think the treatment of councillor McCaffrey and her dissmissal at the eleventh hour absolutely discraceful,what has become of democracy? It makes you wonder what our boys fought for in ww1 and 2,to now have a government who no longer listens to its people,and plays dirty to get its own way.
I completely support Tracey Ann Ross(spokeswoman for schools for communities) that this matter should be taken to the school adjudicator and council ombudsman.It is a discrace and Labour shall NOT be getting my vote from now on.

Paul, paulandmanjit@ntlworld.com says...
9:24pm Tue 6 Feb 07

A fundamentally flawed policy and a disgusting farce of a process. The council have opened Pandora's Box, which will haunt them for years to come.

If they think the incessant lobbying of those in Queens Park was bad, just wait for this policy to come into action. Fluid demographics will create more work for the council and heartache / anger for parents as boundaries are constantly redrawn to "catch". The many vast residential developments will exacerbate the problem - where will the kids living in City Point, Marina, King Alfred & Preston Barracks go to school?

Moving the issue from an area where Labour covet votes to those areas where votes are either safe or unattainable is blatant short termism and not in the interest of the city as a whole.

As Lance stated and the Heads of Varndean & Stringer implied in today's article, something more fundamental is required to resolve the root causes of the issues - some areas not having local secondary schools and an imbalance of performance.

I suggest that Comart be re-opened and the local community encouraged to do the right thing this time by supporting it rather than watch on the sidelines as vast amounts of effort & expense were pumped into it before they let it sink.

As a Brightonian &, up to Friday, a Labour supporter I am truly disgusted by the councils' behaviour and the fact that such a blatantly biased policy has been steamrollered through.

Mick, Freshfield Road says...
9:50pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Molly is of course quite right about the various political parties holding their meetings and deciding on their position ahead of the CFS meeting. C. Sweeneys reaction to this is extraordianry. Did you really believe that at the meeting the CFS councillors were listening to all the pre prepared deliberations and thinking things like 'that's an interesting point', or 'I hadn't thought of that, must take it into consideration when I finally decide which way I'm going to vote'. I have to say the word 'green' comes to mind, and not in any political sense. The Labour Group had a whip to support the proposals and Counc. McCaffrey chose to break the whip and make it known in advance that she was going to do so. That is up to her but having taken this action she has to accept the consequences. She was also not just a CFS member but was deputy chair of the CFS. Being a member of the CFS is a responsible job and one of those responsibilities is to clearly put the wide interests of the city above parochial ward interests. Without paying heed to this a committe such as the CFS cannot operate for the city. Councillor McCaffrey, as well as breaking the whip was also intending to put her parochial ward interests above those of the city as a whole. She has effectively admitted such in the Argus today. In these circumstances it would have been a considerable abrogation of duty not to have sacked her.
It is not as though Counc. McCaffrey just sat there and did nothing and on some sort of whim Simon Burgess decided to sack her. She made her intentions clear and left no option but to be sacked. It was precisely in defence of democracy that that action was taken. It does, though, need simple rational thinking to understand that rather than the rather frenzied rhetoric that we are getting from some just at the moment.

Bruce, fiveways says...
9:54pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Amongst all the comments I have read, no one has made the point that these proposals for school reform are based upon a "least worst" option for as many people as possible. Whilst this does mean a hopefully samll disadvantage for some it brings within the system a significant number of people who where completely excluded under the current system.

There can never be a best system for all in the city. look at how the LEA closed COMART (how much did that cost?). And look at how they avoid talking about the actual number of school places that there are in the city... The LEA actually has a statutory duty to porvide a school place for all the children in the area.... I wonder whether they are meeting this legal obligation. Note that this would include those that go to private schools and also those that travel to schools outside of the LEA area.

Regarding the comments about democracy... "Three wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner". Just because you have a majority doesn't mean that you have right to ignore the wishes of the minority... we are meant to be living in a society.
Personally I favour a city wide random allocation of school places as being the only system that would be clear, unambigous and not open to what some people may regard as "abuse". I also favour the removal of the sibling link that allows many parents to get the first child into a prefered school and then move to where they really want to live.
However in the real world this is not a vote winner for anyone and decisions on school allocation as decided by politicians; how I wish they weren't.
I am certain that the newly passed proposals will be changed in another couple of years to "move the problem", as many have previously noted is being done in this case. I am equally certain that, in a couple of years, the core issue of school location and capacity will remain as it is because of the lack of political will to face up to this real issue.

Any councillor of any party who is prepared to go on the record and take on the LEA (note that this is NOT the same as the coucil) on these issues will get my vote.... I don't expect to be promising my vote to anyone.

Best to all, whatever you think about the issue.

Jane, Patcham says...
10:04pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I hope that other readers will find the comments of Mick as patronising as I do. He treats all opposition to his view as imbecilic and his attitude to Juliet Mc Caffrey (who has dedicated years of service to her local community in general and education in particular) is contemptible. The proof of this pudding will be in the eating and my daughter will be one of many children whose education is put in jeopardy by this change. Where will Mick be then? Will any of the engineers of this policy be accountable for it?

Mick, Freshfield Road says...
10:09pm Tue 6 Feb 07

I can see you're in the Queens Park taking over the world camp, Paul. Thought I'd just point out that if your extaaordinary suggestion that somehow this is about shifting the problem around for political reasons were in fact true then the whole of the Working Group and the whole of the Parent Stakeholder Group must have been in on it from the beginning. This is where the proposals come from. I wonder what the other members of these groups will think of that.
And another thought. Say one were to substitute for the words 'Queens Park' the words 'one of the most deprived wards in the city' and then everytime the conspiracy theorists such as yourself referred to such conspiracy, instead of saying how of course 'all this has been for the benefit of Queens Park' this became 'all this for the benefit of one of the most deprived wards in the city'. Sort of puts a different nuance on things, don't you think.

Mick, Freshfield Road says...
10:13pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Jane, where were you when my daughters education was put in jeopardy last year because of this awful system eh!

Siobhan Mc Alinden, Preston Park says...
10:14pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Can Mick, without condescension, deviation from the truth or obfuscation tell me in simple terms how this change is better for any of the following areas? Patcham, Portslade, Falmer, Moulscomb, Bevendean, Hollingdean, Preston Park, Withdean, Westdene? How is it better for the city as a whole?

Terry, Brighton says...
10:16pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Interesting the attack on Chris Bourne for being abusive from the schools4communities lot. Aren't they the same people who have incited far more extreme attacks with inflamed misinformation? (see http://www.theargus.co.uk/search/display.var.1160696.0.school_places_row_turns_ugly.php )

Oh and I suppose the Tories 'listened to the people, considered the proposals and deemed them not suitable' did they? I thought they were a political party as well and decided their whip would, perhaps, gain them advantage in May. Perhaps that is why Ken Norman felt (especially as Chief Whip) he had to go against all the work he did as part of the Working Group and vote against fixing the problem. I hope the abuse he and his wife, Ann, were subject to never happens again.

Respect to Richard Mallender for showing great courage and principles when under attack.

Paul, Withdean says...
10:33pm Tue 6 Feb 07

Mick, I refer to Siobhan's request?

Of course this is politically motivated, how else would such a transparently blatant shift to favour certain areas over others be anything else?

Having lived in Brighton all my life & witnessed truly historical links between areas and secondary schools, the false claims of East Brighton over other areas is a blatant lie. You can't tell me otherwise.

I did not witness such determined lobbying to keep your area's local school, Comart, open as I have seen for the "prize" of securing the best performing schools in Brighton. Strange eh?

The bottom line is that many more children & parents will be dissatisfied & disadvantaged with the new, flawed, policy.

Oh, and I note that there was no challenge to my assertions regarding the long term issues I mentioned.