Turnout concerns for Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner election

The Argus: George Wells, 20, supermarket worker from Brighton said:"I'm not aware of the election. I haven't received any information at all but I will probably be voting. See more views in our video vox pop George Wells, 20, supermarket worker from Brighton said:"I'm not aware of the election. I haven't received any information at all but I will probably be voting. See more views in our video vox pop

Just 40 per cent of the public polled in a survey by The Argus say they will vote in Thursday’s inaugural police commissioner election.

And a paltry one-in-six say they have received material through the post from the candidates.

By 4pm yesterday (November 13) 2,000 voted in the online poll at theargus.co.uk, with fewer than half claiming they would visit the ballot box on Thursday, November 15.

Home Secretary Theresa May has refused to set out a target turnout for the elections, but has said that 62% of the eligible population are aware of the voting.

Despite being the biggest shake-up of policing in 50 years, the elections for the Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) might see a turnout as low as 10%.

Commissioners will make and influence key decisions, from spending on CCTV to how to tackle gang crime and drug-dealing.

Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper warned yesterday: “The Home Secretary cannot run away from her responsibility for turnout in these elections.

“Theresa May chose to hold these elections in November rather than May, causing confusion even among Tory MPs.”

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11:00am Tue 13 Nov 12

sbiscorrupt says...

The best thing for any election is to aim for a zero turnout...

Maybe then the politicians will finally realise they have no mandate for ruining the lives of the majority of people...

This charade means nothing...

The police will still carry on in the same oppressive way, but politicians will try and claim they have a 'public mandate' to do so...

Just say no and stay away from the polling booths!
The best thing for any election is to aim for a zero turnout... Maybe then the politicians will finally realise they have no mandate for ruining the lives of the majority of people... This charade means nothing... The police will still carry on in the same oppressive way, but politicians will try and claim they have a 'public mandate' to do so... Just say no and stay away from the polling booths! sbiscorrupt

11:26am Tue 13 Nov 12

made up says...

How are we expected to make an informed decision on a vote when the information about the nominees has been dreadful. I've not had any information through my door and if you go to the official website you get three paragraphs about each candidate. None of them offer to tackle different issues and none explain how they will achieve their objectives.
The whole website is a joke and people will just end up voting based on their existing political allegiances.
How are we expected to make an informed decision on a vote when the information about the nominees has been dreadful. I've not had any information through my door and if you go to the official website you get three paragraphs about each candidate. None of them offer to tackle different issues and none explain how they will achieve their objectives. The whole website is a joke and people will just end up voting based on their existing political allegiances. made up

11:27am Tue 13 Nov 12

leobrighton says...

Most people know about this election

Most people don't want this election

Most people won't vote

The Argus poll is total rubbish a 40% turnout would be better than council elections and would be regarded as a good turnout. I won't be picking up a copy thank you
Most people know about this election Most people don't want this election Most people won't vote The Argus poll is total rubbish a 40% turnout would be better than council elections and would be regarded as a good turnout. I won't be picking up a copy thank you leobrighton

11:33am Tue 13 Nov 12

Indigatio says...

I suspect the Argus Poll is not representative of the Public in general. My feeling, and I may be wrong, is that it will be less than 20% turnout.
Personally I don't agree with the PCC's. The old system worked, maybe not 100% but no system does. What they have now done is to politicise the Police. Most of the candidates are Party people and they will toe the Party line and therefore will not be independant.
I will be voting but I will be spoiling my ballot paper and I would urge everyone who doesn't agree with this election to do the same. Spoilt Ballot papers in great enough numbers will be noticed by Government a lot more than a low turnout.
I suspect the Argus Poll is not representative of the Public in general. My feeling, and I may be wrong, is that it will be less than 20% turnout. Personally I don't agree with the PCC's. The old system worked, maybe not 100% but no system does. What they have now done is to politicise the Police. Most of the candidates are Party people and they will toe the Party line and therefore will not be independant. I will be voting but I will be spoiling my ballot paper and I would urge everyone who doesn't agree with this election to do the same. Spoilt Ballot papers in great enough numbers will be noticed by Government a lot more than a low turnout. Indigatio

11:54am Tue 13 Nov 12

Fight_Back says...

I've only had a small postcard from the Labour candidate and most the information on it was meaningless.

So our choices are :

Tony Armstrong (UKIP) - political
Katy Bourne (Conservative) - political
Ian Chisnall (Independent) - religious nut case
Godfrey Daniel - political
David Rogers - political

Seriously, not one of these people is worth voting for. To make the police force even more of a political football than it is now is highly dangerous.

I'll not be voting and hopefully turnout will be in single figures.
I've only had a small postcard from the Labour candidate and most the information on it was meaningless. So our choices are : Tony Armstrong (UKIP) - political Katy Bourne (Conservative) - political Ian Chisnall (Independent) - religious nut case Godfrey Daniel - political David Rogers - political Seriously, not one of these people is worth voting for. To make the police force even more of a political football than it is now is highly dangerous. I'll not be voting and hopefully turnout will be in single figures. Fight_Back

12:09pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Isaac Rinkfern says...

How low does the turnout need to be to declare this whole farce, "null and void"?
All of them seem obsessed with anti social behavior, rather than real crime.
The Tory bint is married to a banker, I thought that associating with criminals was frowned upon in police circles, I was obviously wrong, but then again all of them associate with politicians which amounts to the same thing.
Complete waste of time, but I'll pobably vote in order to try and keep the tory out.
How low does the turnout need to be to declare this whole farce, "null and void"? All of them seem obsessed with anti social behavior, rather than real crime. The Tory bint is married to a banker, I thought that associating with criminals was frowned upon in police circles, I was obviously wrong, but then again all of them associate with politicians which amounts to the same thing. Complete waste of time, but I'll pobably vote in order to try and keep the tory out. Isaac Rinkfern

12:18pm Tue 13 Nov 12

mustaphaLeeko says...

This is straight off the "choosemypcc.org.uk" website
"PCCs will be required to swear an oath of impartiality when they are elected to office."

Can any of the candidates explain why they all represent Political parties then?

Why are political parties rushing to have a candidate in this position.

What happened to ordinary people with no political axe to grind representing us rather than these glad handing bunch of nose in the trough politicians?

This election is a JOKE, and still 2 days before it, I have only received a single pamphlet through the door from a single candidate!

I would seriously doubt there will be any political independence or the oath will be upheld.

All my opinion of course, I'd like to be proven wrong.
This is straight off the "choosemypcc.org.uk" website "PCCs will be required to swear an oath of impartiality when they are elected to office." Can any of the candidates explain why they all represent Political parties then? Why are political parties rushing to have a candidate in this position. What happened to ordinary people with no political axe to grind representing us rather than these glad handing bunch of nose in the trough politicians? This election is a JOKE, and still 2 days before it, I have only received a single pamphlet through the door from a single candidate! I would seriously doubt there will be any political independence or the oath will be upheld. All my opinion of course, I'd like to be proven wrong. mustaphaLeeko

12:35pm Tue 13 Nov 12

clubrob6 says...

Turnout will be far less than 40%,politics should have nothing to do with policing.On the other hand police are failing large areas of the city such as ST JAMES STREET.The police concentrate on west street and leave the rest of the city to defend for itself at night time.Frontline police supposed to be protected but as he case in the argus earlier this year that only 2 polic were left to police the centre when the clubs were getting out shows frontline police have been dramatically cut.Walking home in the early hours through st james street and the city in general you can here rouble all over the place unfortunately most cases of crime are missed by police as they cant here whats going on driving around in cars and vans.Mind you with all the cuts i would no want to be a bobby on the beat as their backup wont be guaranteed just like we cant rely on police assistance in our time of need.Residents should attend meetings with police there is one soon for st james street area .
Turnout will be far less than 40%,politics should have nothing to do with policing.On the other hand police are failing large areas of the city such as ST JAMES STREET.The police concentrate on west street and leave the rest of the city to defend for itself at night time.Frontline police supposed to be protected but as he case in the argus earlier this year that only 2 polic were left to police the centre when the clubs were getting out shows frontline police have been dramatically cut.Walking home in the early hours through st james street and the city in general you can here rouble all over the place unfortunately most cases of crime are missed by police as they cant here whats going on driving around in cars and vans.Mind you with all the cuts i would no want to be a bobby on the beat as their backup wont be guaranteed just like we cant rely on police assistance in our time of need.Residents should attend meetings with police there is one soon for st james street area . clubrob6

1:04pm Tue 13 Nov 12

ChrisDS says...

terrribly sad that the vote turnout will be pathetically low ... basically caused by such inadequate advertising ... and i don't mean by the candidates but by the media in general ... one well backed party has been giving out posters right left and centre, a feat that independents could not hope to compete against. Rather goes to show that this really is aimed for the political parties to win, so much for non government interference? The word farce comes to mind, but we are british we will try anything once !
terrribly sad that the vote turnout will be pathetically low ... basically caused by such inadequate advertising ... and i don't mean by the candidates but by the media in general ... one well backed party has been giving out posters right left and centre, a feat that independents could not hope to compete against. Rather goes to show that this really is aimed for the political parties to win, so much for non government interference? The word farce comes to mind, but we are british we will try anything once ! ChrisDS

1:11pm Tue 13 Nov 12

getThisCoalitionOut says...

I am against bringing politics into the police force but then the police are ruled by government.

When I contacted all the candidates about what they proposed to do about hunting in Sussex - as most of the hunters are breaking the law and getting away with it, which I am 100% against - only two bothered to reply - that was the independent guy, Ian, who said he'd be willing to meet anyone who wanted to meet him to discuss policing this further - not a 100% against stance but at least willing to meet and discuss and the UKIP guy who was totally non committal.

The others didn't bother to reply at all - but that is what I'd expect from con/lab/lib - so none of them are being voted for by me.

The independent guy is getting my vote and UKIP is my 2nd choice which is what I politically think is right too.

I think it's totally wrong to not vote at all because the conservative voters will all come out of the woodwork as usual and then the con will get in and that's wrong on every level - look at the mess the country is in now because the con's nearly got voted in - use your vote to keep those out that you really hate!
I am against bringing politics into the police force but then the police are ruled by government. When I contacted all the candidates about what they proposed to do about hunting in Sussex - as most of the hunters are breaking the law and getting away with it, which I am 100% against - only two bothered to reply - that was the independent guy, Ian, who said he'd be willing to meet anyone who wanted to meet him to discuss policing this further - not a 100% against stance but at least willing to meet and discuss and the UKIP guy who was totally non committal. The others didn't bother to reply at all - but that is what I'd expect from con/lab/lib - so none of them are being voted for by me. The independent guy is getting my vote and UKIP is my 2nd choice which is what I politically think is right too. I think it's totally wrong to not vote at all because the conservative voters will all come out of the woodwork as usual and then the con will get in and that's wrong on every level - look at the mess the country is in now because the con's nearly got voted in - use your vote to keep those out that you really hate! getThisCoalitionOut

1:35pm Tue 13 Nov 12

mimseycal says...

Information about these elections has been conspicuous in it scarcity. I've more of a chance looking for hen's teeth. Pretty abysmal show all round especially considering the price tag on this position ... £85,000.- per annum.
Information about these elections has been conspicuous in it scarcity. I've more of a chance looking for hen's teeth. Pretty abysmal show all round especially considering the price tag on this position ... £85,000.- per annum. mimseycal

2:05pm Tue 13 Nov 12

sosparty says...

VOTE FOR MATT TAYLOR ON 15th NOVEMBER

There are only days to go until the Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner elections.

As an ex-Royal Military Policeman, with a strong passion for Law and Order, the job of PCC on a salary of £85,000, is my dream job.

I have doubts though. How can the Conservative party preach austerity one day but then introduce an unwanted scheme, costing millions to the tax-payer the next?

The government have acknowledged these elections are an experiment. There is even talk of dumping the role if a Labour government wins the next general election.

But its in this spirit of experimentation, that as a PCC, I want to experiment with ideas that have been talked about but never actioned.

PCC's can't change the Law, but they can prioritise the Law. I'd like to re-prioritise drugs and prostitution for example. Make them low priority, allowing the police to concentrate on more serious crimes. After all the average voter isn't bothered about drugs and prostitution. We know this from the Neighbourhood Watch Scheme survey.

I am the only candidate who has made police corruption an election issue. The other candidates are burying their heads in the sand. You only have to search Google and a world of rumour and accusations about Sussex police corruption is revealed.

Its ironic because I am the best person for the job but my name isn't on the ballot papers because I never handed over £5000 for the privilege. But I'm not going to let stupid bureaucracy stand in my way of my dream job.

Check out my website at www.sosparty.co.uk and exercise your right to push the boundaries of democracy. With Guerrilla Democracy, I beg all voters to spoil your ballots papers by writing SOS on it; Democracy made easy.
VOTE FOR MATT TAYLOR ON 15th NOVEMBER There are only days to go until the Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner elections. As an ex-Royal Military Policeman, with a strong passion for Law and Order, the job of PCC on a salary of £85,000, is my dream job. I have doubts though. How can the Conservative party preach austerity one day but then introduce an unwanted scheme, costing millions to the tax-payer the next? The government have acknowledged these elections are an experiment. There is even talk of dumping the role if a Labour government wins the next general election. But its in this spirit of experimentation, that as a PCC, I want to experiment with ideas that have been talked about but never actioned. PCC's can't change the Law, but they can prioritise the Law. I'd like to re-prioritise drugs and prostitution for example. Make them low priority, allowing the police to concentrate on more serious crimes. After all the average voter isn't bothered about drugs and prostitution. We know this from the Neighbourhood Watch Scheme survey. I am the only candidate who has made police corruption an election issue. The other candidates are burying their heads in the sand. You only have to search Google and a world of rumour and accusations about Sussex police corruption is revealed. Its ironic because I am the best person for the job but my name isn't on the ballot papers because I never handed over £5000 for the privilege. But I'm not going to let stupid bureaucracy stand in my way of my dream job. Check out my website at www.sosparty.co.uk and exercise your right to push the boundaries of democracy. With Guerrilla Democracy, I beg all voters to spoil your ballots papers by writing SOS on it; Democracy made easy. sosparty

2:07pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Crystal Ball says...

It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc.

People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.
It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc. People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain. Crystal Ball

2:18pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Fight_Back says...

Crystal Ball wrote:
It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc.

People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.
Rubbish - so I should be forced to vote for someone, despite the fact I don't think any of the candidates are suitable, just so I have the right to complain ???

There is nobody I want to vote for - they are all equally poor and the principle is wrong anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc. People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - so I should be forced to vote for someone, despite the fact I don't think any of the candidates are suitable, just so I have the right to complain ??? There is nobody I want to vote for - they are all equally poor and the principle is wrong anyway. Fight_Back

2:20pm Tue 13 Nov 12

mimseycal says...

Actually there is a lot more to voting then merely showing up on the day and putting your mark on the ballot.

Informed decision making has been hampered by the scarcity of information.
Actually there is a lot more to voting then merely showing up on the day and putting your mark on the ballot. Informed decision making has been hampered by the scarcity of information. mimseycal

2:46pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Crystal Ball says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Crystal Ball wrote:
It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc.

People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.
Rubbish - so I should be forced to vote for someone, despite the fact I don't think any of the candidates are suitable, just so I have the right to complain ???

There is nobody I want to vote for - they are all equally poor and the principle is wrong anyway.
Perhaps you would like to move to Zimbabwe and take part in an election there?
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc. People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - so I should be forced to vote for someone, despite the fact I don't think any of the candidates are suitable, just so I have the right to complain ??? There is nobody I want to vote for - they are all equally poor and the principle is wrong anyway.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you would like to move to Zimbabwe and take part in an election there? Crystal Ball

3:20pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Will's blog says...

I think Katy Bourne is quite good really. I heard her speak and she was full of enthusiasm and energy.
I think Katy Bourne is quite good really. I heard her speak and she was full of enthusiasm and energy. Will's blog

3:32pm Tue 13 Nov 12

clubrob6 says...

Its a sad day that politics is coming into policing,if the police dont do as the commisioner the commisioner has the power to sack them,if policing from now on will be politically motivated.Freedom of speach will be at risk all but the 3 main parties and demonstrations will be clamped down on .Something needs to be done about policing so they are accountable,but the massive cuts and bringing politics into it wont help.I would like to know for example why police concentrate on west street at nights and leave other high risk areas lke st james street to defend for itself.Basically frontline police have been cut and at night when police are needed they are not on the beat,you only see them in cars and vans.
Its a sad day that politics is coming into policing,if the police dont do as the commisioner the commisioner has the power to sack them,if policing from now on will be politically motivated.Freedom of speach will be at risk all but the 3 main parties and demonstrations will be clamped down on .Something needs to be done about policing so they are accountable,but the massive cuts and bringing politics into it wont help.I would like to know for example why police concentrate on west street at nights and leave other high risk areas lke st james street to defend for itself.Basically frontline police have been cut and at night when police are needed they are not on the beat,you only see them in cars and vans. clubrob6

7:06pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Fight_Back says...

Crystal Ball wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Crystal Ball wrote:
It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc.

People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.
Rubbish - so I should be forced to vote for someone, despite the fact I don't think any of the candidates are suitable, just so I have the right to complain ???

There is nobody I want to vote for - they are all equally poor and the principle is wrong anyway.
Perhaps you would like to move to Zimbabwe and take part in an election there?
That's quite a leap - I object to politicians running the police, comment on how poor ALL the candidates are an that I feel disinclined to vote for any of them and somehow it suggests I want rigged elections and opposition beaten up and even killed. You must have been a real roar at the school debating society.
[quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc. People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - so I should be forced to vote for someone, despite the fact I don't think any of the candidates are suitable, just so I have the right to complain ??? There is nobody I want to vote for - they are all equally poor and the principle is wrong anyway.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you would like to move to Zimbabwe and take part in an election there?[/p][/quote]That's quite a leap - I object to politicians running the police, comment on how poor ALL the candidates are an that I feel disinclined to vote for any of them and somehow it suggests I want rigged elections and opposition beaten up and even killed. You must have been a real roar at the school debating society. Fight_Back

11:10pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Hove Actually says...

I will be voting

NONE of the above.............
I will be voting NONE of the above............. Hove Actually

8:43am Wed 14 Nov 12

Variable says...

No promotional literature here and I had to search online to find out who my candidates are. I refuse to endorse any of the party candidates and the independent couldn't be bothered to answer my email on a simple question. I am not voting in this farce.
No promotional literature here and I had to search online to find out who my candidates are. I refuse to endorse any of the party candidates and the independent couldn't be bothered to answer my email on a simple question. I am not voting in this farce. Variable

9:02am Wed 14 Nov 12

Chieftain11 says...

1st reason for me not to vote: The Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) and the Deputy Police and Crime Commissioner (DPCC) can't influence sentencing of criminals in any way whatsoever.

2nd reason for me not to vote: Nobody has a clue what the true cost is for the PCC, DPP, pensions and support staff.

3rd reason for me not to vote: We have no idea how the DPCC will be selected. It appears the PCC can pick who he or she wants. In other words, the political parties will select their man or woman as they put the £5, 000 deposit up for their candidate.

4th reason for me not to vote: The PCC can delegate full powers to the DPCC. In other words, a person we have never heard of.

5th reason for me not to vote: This is just another expensive layer of unwanted and expensive management.

You guessed, I will certainly not be voting.
1st reason for me not to vote: The Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) and the Deputy Police and Crime Commissioner (DPCC) can't influence sentencing of criminals in any way whatsoever. 2nd reason for me not to vote: Nobody has a clue what the true cost is for the PCC, DPP, pensions and support staff. 3rd reason for me not to vote: We have no idea how the DPCC will be selected. It appears the PCC can pick who he or she wants. In other words, the political parties will select their man or woman as they put the £5, 000 deposit up for their candidate. 4th reason for me not to vote: The PCC can delegate full powers to the DPCC. In other words, a person we have never heard of. 5th reason for me not to vote: This is just another expensive layer of unwanted and expensive management. You guessed, I will certainly not be voting. Chieftain11

10:28am Wed 14 Nov 12

Nosfaratu says...

Will's blog wrote:
I think Katy Bourne is quite good really. I heard her speak and she was full of enthusiasm and energy.
Who, What, When, Where.

Why do the Argus always ask dotty old biddies or neanderthal supermarket workers for their opinion when they dont even know what day it is.

Not that I have recieved any useful information on the candidates, only that I have no idea where they came from, Mars probably.
Why cant we have a' X' Factor or 'Britians Got Talent' style election. At least it would be fairly entertaining.

Now we are going to get a no-body. Its too - 'Orwellian'. Big Brother will soon replace these no-bodies with political, yes men/women.
[quote][p][bold]Will's blog[/bold] wrote: I think Katy Bourne is quite good really. I heard her speak and she was full of enthusiasm and energy.[/p][/quote]Who, What, When, Where. Why do the Argus always ask dotty old biddies or neanderthal supermarket workers for their opinion when they dont even know what day it is. Not that I have recieved any useful information on the candidates, only that I have no idea where they came from, Mars probably. Why cant we have a' X' Factor or 'Britians Got Talent' style election. At least it would be fairly entertaining. Now we are going to get a no-body. Its too - 'Orwellian'. Big Brother will soon replace these no-bodies with political, yes men/women. Nosfaratu

10:36am Wed 14 Nov 12

Nosfaratu says...

sosparty wrote:
VOTE FOR MATT TAYLOR ON 15th NOVEMBER There are only days to go until the Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner elections. As an ex-Royal Military Policeman, with a strong passion for Law and Order, the job of PCC on a salary of £85,000, is my dream job. I have doubts though. How can the Conservative party preach austerity one day but then introduce an unwanted scheme, costing millions to the tax-payer the next? The government have acknowledged these elections are an experiment. There is even talk of dumping the role if a Labour government wins the next general election. But its in this spirit of experimentation, that as a PCC, I want to experiment with ideas that have been talked about but never actioned. PCC's can't change the Law, but they can prioritise the Law. I'd like to re-prioritise drugs and prostitution for example. Make them low priority, allowing the police to concentrate on more serious crimes. After all the average voter isn't bothered about drugs and prostitution. We know this from the Neighbourhood Watch Scheme survey. I am the only candidate who has made police corruption an election issue. The other candidates are burying their heads in the sand. You only have to search Google and a world of rumour and accusations about Sussex police corruption is revealed. Its ironic because I am the best person for the job but my name isn't on the ballot papers because I never handed over £5000 for the privilege. But I'm not going to let stupid bureaucracy stand in my way of my dream job. Check out my website at www.sosparty.co.uk and exercise your right to push the boundaries of democracy. With Guerrilla Democracy, I beg all voters to spoil your ballots papers by writing SOS on it; Democracy made easy.
Gosh! for an Ex- Headhunter you certainly have put your cat among the pigeons.

Sorry, but if you dont have £5000 of somebodies elses money to stand for election and are as anonymous as the rest. Retire
[quote][p][bold]sosparty[/bold] wrote: VOTE FOR MATT TAYLOR ON 15th NOVEMBER There are only days to go until the Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner elections. As an ex-Royal Military Policeman, with a strong passion for Law and Order, the job of PCC on a salary of £85,000, is my dream job. I have doubts though. How can the Conservative party preach austerity one day but then introduce an unwanted scheme, costing millions to the tax-payer the next? The government have acknowledged these elections are an experiment. There is even talk of dumping the role if a Labour government wins the next general election. But its in this spirit of experimentation, that as a PCC, I want to experiment with ideas that have been talked about but never actioned. PCC's can't change the Law, but they can prioritise the Law. I'd like to re-prioritise drugs and prostitution for example. Make them low priority, allowing the police to concentrate on more serious crimes. After all the average voter isn't bothered about drugs and prostitution. We know this from the Neighbourhood Watch Scheme survey. I am the only candidate who has made police corruption an election issue. The other candidates are burying their heads in the sand. You only have to search Google and a world of rumour and accusations about Sussex police corruption is revealed. Its ironic because I am the best person for the job but my name isn't on the ballot papers because I never handed over £5000 for the privilege. But I'm not going to let stupid bureaucracy stand in my way of my dream job. Check out my website at www.sosparty.co.uk and exercise your right to push the boundaries of democracy. With Guerrilla Democracy, I beg all voters to spoil your ballots papers by writing SOS on it; Democracy made easy.[/p][/quote]Gosh! for an Ex- Headhunter you certainly have put your cat among the pigeons. Sorry, but if you dont have £5000 of somebodies elses money to stand for election and are as anonymous as the rest. Retire Nosfaratu

11:22am Wed 14 Nov 12

Nosfaratu says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Crystal Ball wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Crystal Ball wrote: It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc. People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.
Rubbish - so I should be forced to vote for someone, despite the fact I don't think any of the candidates are suitable, just so I have the right to complain ??? There is nobody I want to vote for - they are all equally poor and the principle is wrong anyway.
Perhaps you would like to move to Zimbabwe and take part in an election there?
That's quite a leap - I object to politicians running the police, comment on how poor ALL the candidates are an that I feel disinclined to vote for any of them and somehow it suggests I want rigged elections and opposition beaten up and even killed. You must have been a real roar at the school debating society.
That would be the School 'Be-Heading' Society.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to read the whinger's comments when a candidate is elected and potentially not popular etc. People had the opportunity to vote but chose not to take it therefore they have no cause to complain.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - so I should be forced to vote for someone, despite the fact I don't think any of the candidates are suitable, just so I have the right to complain ??? There is nobody I want to vote for - they are all equally poor and the principle is wrong anyway.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you would like to move to Zimbabwe and take part in an election there?[/p][/quote]That's quite a leap - I object to politicians running the police, comment on how poor ALL the candidates are an that I feel disinclined to vote for any of them and somehow it suggests I want rigged elections and opposition beaten up and even killed. You must have been a real roar at the school debating society.[/p][/quote]That would be the School 'Be-Heading' Society. Nosfaratu

10:24pm Wed 14 Nov 12

AngelicDevil says...

For the first time in my life I will be spoiling my ballot paper.

Impartial candidates?! You're having a laugh!
For the first time in my life I will be spoiling my ballot paper. Impartial candidates?! You're having a laugh! AngelicDevil

10:55pm Wed 14 Nov 12

mimseycal says...

I'm doing anything but laughing. These elections are the saddest I've ever taken part in. They really show how little our vote is valued. They are going through the motions but just barely enough to call it lipservice ....
I'm doing anything but laughing. These elections are the saddest I've ever taken part in. They really show how little our vote is valued. They are going through the motions but just barely enough to call it lipservice .... mimseycal

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